Prehistoric Breakdown: Saurophaganax

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ค. 2024
  • A group of Ceratosaurus are trying to scavenge an Allosaurus carcass. But the larger predators may be close by as well as something much, much larger.
    Today we breakdown the controversial hunter, Saurophaganax.
    00:00 Narration
    06:25 Breakdown
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  • @shahinarahaque2071
    @shahinarahaque2071 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I just wanna say, dinosaurs couldn't roar. They didn't have the voice structure to produce roars.

    • @2freezing
      @2freezing 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I agree, I think they made sounds similar to what crocs and gators make

    • @william3100
      @william3100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Crocodiles and alligators CAN roar, though. Lion and tiger-like roars are not the only things that can be classified as roars in nature.

    • @coomsday5182
      @coomsday5182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@william3100exactly my thoughts. Eventhough roaring is a so called "mammalian trait", that doesn't neceserally mean that other animals don't roar in a different sense.

  • @TheFoshaMan
    @TheFoshaMan ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love it when stories have continuations :3

  • @trethomas9202
    @trethomas9202 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Saurophaganax is a cool Dinosaur and needs some more recognition so this video is really awesome and cool

  • @Bothofoneperson
    @Bothofoneperson ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amazing video glad to see saurophaganax in one of your vids . I hope to see torvosaurus in one.

  • @DinoNerd208
    @DinoNerd208 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your videos are great! the stories at the beginning are very entertaining and the information part is amazing too

  • @maozilla9149
    @maozilla9149 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice video

  • @MrMalvolio29
    @MrMalvolio29 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with the quite well-founded opinion among many respected paleontologists that the so-called “Saurophaganax”--which has always been at least to a *significant* degree, a *hypothetical* construct based on extraordinarily fragmentary and supposedly “rare” fossil evidence--is *not* a separate, “new” species of giant Late Jurassic therapod predator at all; it was merely, if the way the questionable fossil evidence has been interpreted is correct and it existed at all, it was merely an abnormally large Allosaurus with a few cosmetic skeletal peculiarities that *certainly* don’t differ from Allosaurus fossil evidence *so* significantly as to qualify as morphological distinctions between *two* separate but obviously related species. Claiming that “the rarity of Saurophaganax fossil evidence indicates that the predator must have been a RARE ANIMAL” solves nothing, as it is based on the logical argumentative fallacy of *hysteron proton,* which means that one puts *first* what should logically come last--in other words, when one commits this argumentative logical fallacy, one begins one’s “argument” by groundlessly ASSUMING the **very thing one is theoretically attempting to prove.**
    This, sadly, is **yet another** example of paleontologists discovering fossils that at first *appear* to have unusual features, and then jumping to wild, huge, hastily generalised conclusions because of the notorious paleontological ego’s insatiable NEED to get credit for supposedly “discovering a new species of dinosaur.” Nothing more.

  • @forrestannis909
    @forrestannis909 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Anything on Sonorasaurus? Quite little information on that dinosaur.

  • @justinetherton5777
    @justinetherton5777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Personally, I believe it’s it’s own species

  • @thegamingspino2597
    @thegamingspino2597 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do barsbolia if you haven’t already

  • @CyBromancer7562
    @CyBromancer7562 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Heeeyyyy, Raptor Rex, Whaaaat's happenin? Yeaahh Hi, I'm gonna need you to do a breakdown of the Chilesaurus, mmkay? Yeaahh, apparently Its a, uh, plant-eating "platypus" dino which may in fact be the, um, missing link between the Saurischians and Ornithiscians, making it one of the most basal dino species? If you could get that in for me in the near future that would be terriiiiific. Great, thaaanks!

    • @raptorrex3954
      @raptorrex3954  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll see what I can do for that request. (And yes all the ones you've made previously as well mate.)

    • @CyBromancer7562
      @CyBromancer7562 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@raptorrex3954 mmkay, lol. You definitely don't have to do every species I've requested, as some may be similar to others. Just one member per family or subfamily is totally fine.

  • @dagoodboy6424
    @dagoodboy6424 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Currently saurophaganax was reclassified as a charcarodontosaurid. Makes alot more sense as to why was so large.
    Also i think the cera revenge thing is going a bit too far. And it is almost certan theropods couldnt roar. And more so that they didnt hunt in groups.

    • @gorgoaku4444
      @gorgoaku4444 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wait what? That doesn’t make any sense, especially considering the oldest charcarodontosaurid lived 150-154 mya *in Tanzania* so uhhh
      *w e i r d*

    • @dagoodboy6424
      @dagoodboy6424 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gorgoaku4444 🤷‍♂️🦖

    • @Why79-dx4rf
      @Why79-dx4rf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dagoodboy6424source for saurophaganax being a carcharodontosaurid?

    • @dagoodboy6424
      @dagoodboy6424 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Why79-dx4rf ill get back 2 u for def sources. but it was stated in a more recent EDGE channal video. So thats pretty reputable. Many older websites and papers therized this aswell. Personally idk what i think bout this. Try to search it if u can
      Heres 1.psdinosaurs.blogspot.com/2023/05/saurophaganax-is-carcharodontosaurid.html?m=1#:~:text=This%20author%20proposes%20a%20different,at%20once%20or%20by%20professionals.

    • @Distix-uz8qr
      @Distix-uz8qr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@Why79-dx4rfsimilarities to acrocanthosaurus mainly and because 7shot the person with acces to most snap material believes soo it could be a basil carcharadontosaurid

  • @rich2435
    @rich2435 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Woo-Hoo!

  • @joeyjo-joshabadu9636
    @joeyjo-joshabadu9636 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its not at all unreasonable to believe that there could be two species of allosaurus in the same region, when you consider that leopards and tigers(or lions if you like) belong to the same genus and coexist through different predator niches.
    Also consider that a tiger is about 4 to 5x the size of a leopard, so who knows how big the saurophaganax/allosaurus maximus could've gotten???

  • @MonsterZero521
    @MonsterZero521 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saurophaganax isn't 4 tons or 13 meters.
    Saurophaganax is 12.9 meters long & weights 8.3 tonnes. It's currently the 6th largest carnivorous dinosaur and the king of Jurassic

    • @neganrex5693
      @neganrex5693 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      T-Rex should be number since it was found to be the heavier animal.

    • @7reasons617
      @7reasons617 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rex is the largest by a ton or 2 at max weight.

    • @william3100
      @william3100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is no true evidence confirming any of this. One single not well understood leg bone doesn't indicate anything. All reliable sources currently say saurophaganax was at best 4 to 5 tons, and 12 meters long.

    • @MonsterZero521
      @MonsterZero521 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@william3100yeah 12 meters long ( 12.8 meters) but weights much higher at 8.3 tonnes

  • @unknownsoldier9821
    @unknownsoldier9821 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    whos here from PE?

    • @RWDOWNPOUR
      @RWDOWNPOUR หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me lol

  • @b_radbrad8899
    @b_radbrad8899 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I personally believe Saurophaganax was probably just a large sub species of allosaurus or was a genus. It’s definitely not it’s own thing imo.

    • @b_radbrad8899
      @b_radbrad8899 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@gorgoaku4444 that’s still up for debate. Anything can and will change in this field

    • @gorgoaku4444
      @gorgoaku4444 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@b_radbrad8899 i was talking about your terminology, if it was a genus then it would be its own thing

    • @Distix-uz8qr
      @Distix-uz8qr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@b_radbrad8899sauro has many distinguishing feature that allo lacked to distinguish itself from allosaurus

    • @MonsterZero521
      @MonsterZero521 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Saurophaganax is definitely a valid genus and it's own thing.

    • @e.ggamerguy5793
      @e.ggamerguy5793 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MonsterZero521Not DEFINITELY, but very likely (Sauro probably isn’t allo, it’s just that most reconstructions base it off allo due to sauros fragmentary fossils)