I just returned from the range performing a similar test but using a stock P365 vs 365XL. The XL averaged 41 FPS more on my reloads. But I compared 10 rounds of Federal's HST 124 from each gun. My chrony, with all of Paul Harrell's caveats, showed an average of 61 FPS difference between barrels. That is the difference 6 tenths of an inch made. Federal's website claims a velocity of 1150 FPS out of a 4 inch barrel. My Chrony showed 1132 FPS out of the 3.7 inch Sig barrel. I'll take that any day.
I love that you actually tested the velocity with the increased length… everyone else was just like, “Yeah, it looks cool!!! I’m not paying to look cool. Paying for performance. I’m retired and on a fixed income. It’s called priorities… few things I want. I wanted Magguts but something prevented that… Anyway, Thanx… keep being informative!!!
Thank you very much for the feedback. The increases velocity is the main reason I use threaded barrels. I try to provide as much information / data as I can to hopefully make decisions the viewers make easier. Again thank you for taking the time to provide feedback. I really appreciate it.
I have a stock P365. I took it to the range the other day and picked up some spent casings. There is 0 primer drag on it. Each was clean and crisp. I also purchased this a month or so ago. I think production in Jan 2021. So I think they must've fixed it in production.
Just ordered myself one for my Sig p365! Ordered the stainless steel threaded one!! And I cannot wait to get it!!!!!! So much you can do to these little pistols!! I bet I've got well over a grand in mine already! And planning to get some raptor cuts on the slide and possibly a red dot? I'm running the green lima laser on it now. I like it... It made it look fantastic but kinda wish I would have gone with the red dot. But great video brother ✌
Appreciate the compliment sir. Sounds like you have a pretty sweet 365. It’s awesome how the 365 and the 320 are modular. I’m also loving all the companies coming up with mods.
@@SigGuy yes me too I would love to buy me a p320! I guess that will be my next birthday present LOL. I love my p365 so much I left work today and put another 250 rounds through it and still zero issues! I'm somewhere in the ballpark around 4000 round now
That stiker drag on older design is pretty severe...i would think that would cause alot of lateral stress on the striker tip potentially causing breakage. I think strikers breaking was actually a pretty big issue in the 365 early days. So im glad they fixed the issue. I have the 365 xl and never had a drag problem which I attributed to the longer slide but im glad to see that they actually fixed the problem with the striker itself. Good video I have nothing negative to say...which is rare for me
I read in sigtalk that the real issue with the drag is that the hole in the slide in not aligned properly so it bends the little end of the pin causing it to break, because of that if you send your gun to sig they also change the slide....make sense
You CAN get a match grade p365 barrel. I have one. It didn't help. It is a 3.1 inch barrel...... Edit: so will hollow points be below expansion threshold with those velocities?
@@SigGuy Oh my friend could you please send me the link to where I could possibly get one of those strikers and 1 of those threaded barrels please and thank you
Hey, did you put any coating on that stainless barrel or is it just the uncoated stainless? Also hows it holding up if there's no coating on it, looks great just concerned that stainless with no dlc or nitride coating will scar up and wear fast, any thoughts after a decent amount of rounds through a non coated stainless barrel
I bought a TP barrel for my Glock 26 9mm gen 5 in 2022. The TiN barrel is easy to clean & so far has no problems, no scuffs, no rust. I clean my Glock with CLPs like Clenzoil or Slip 2000 EWL.
After plugging and chugging the data, one significant takeaway here is that the longer barrel shot more consistently than the shorter barrel and with higher velocity of course. It appears that you used a mixture of manufacturer's casings in this testing. Do you think that explains the occasional low velocity shots for either barrel length or was that a factor of your reloading such as measuring consistency for load, resizing, post crimping, etc.?
I’ve read this a number of times: “The telltale firing pin "wipe" is present on the primer fired in the SIG-Sauer. This is typical and to be expected. The SIG-Sauer pistols purposely have a bit slower firing pin retraction to help thwart debris from entering the firing pin channel.” I don’t know if that’s true or not
Mark S Delaney I believe the drag has more to with how extremely fast the barrel starts to drop once it unlocks. If you have a 365 just slowly move the slide forward and you can see the barrel immediately drops. You can compare it to other pistols and you noticed that the barrel does not drop until the slide is quite a bit more forward than the 365.
Sig Sauer Guy Yes, just did what you suggested and I see what you mean. You’ve been a great resource for me. Was cleaning my 365 today and the slide lock fell off my FCU. I went through your videos to find the fix. Waiting for my A.C. p320 trigger to ship.
Mark S Delaney and that is a great compliment. Thank you sir. I really appreciate the feedback. The trigger is SICK! Post a follow up please when you get to try it.
@@SigGuy Thank you! I'm really considering the threaded version of this barrel strictly for the increase in velocity without changing how concealable the p365 is. 40-50fps more can improve hollow point expansion, to me it's worth it. Thank you again for this video, its exactly what I was looking for👍
Dean Davis the drag is no worthy at all. It’s actually very common in smaller guns and even some full-size guns. Buy with confidence. Any 365 should come with the new design striker now.
you should look into a tactical development rail and get an olight pl mini or pl mini 2. huge difference! 400-600 lumens compared to 100 lumens from the trl6
@@SigGuy I sure will. I want the p365 amory craft custom grip so bad but they are out of stock and i can fine it anywhere. So disappointed. U love the way ur p365 look!
Not at all. My born on date is 11/08/19! And didn't know that until after I bought it!! What's crazy is I was born 11/08/70!!!!! Lol But man I've dumped well over 2000 rounds through it with zero issues 👍 absolutely no problems what so ever! No striker drag no feeding issues nothing! I've shot 147g ,115g, r.i.p ammo, fmj, hollow points, +p,+p+, it eats it all👍
Mine was born in January 2019 and it still has issues. Primer drag, FTEs every other mag, and the back plate falls xausing failures to go into battery.
Taylor Ballard primer drag is not a problem. Cycling failures as usually shooter induced. Don’t ride the slide and have a firm grip. The striker housing was redesigned to correct the backplate issue some experienced.
@@SigGuy thanks for the feedback but I know how to shoot my gun. Its a quality control issue. Many have the same problems. Sig has redesigned the p365 slide for a reason. Not only did they redesign the striker but they did the extractor as well.
@@SigGuy not bashing sig either because anyone that knows me knows I'm a sig fan boy just disappointed that they don't address these problems publicly. Search p365 FTE and see how many people are experiencing it. Or go to a thread online. Thousands are it cant be a coincidence that people are having troubles with ftes and then they redesign the extractor.
Mine doesn’t have the primer drag issue. I bought it about a month ago though. It has about the same as my Glock 43 (technically all striker fired guns have some form of drag). Such an awesome gun
Yup. All new 365s for some time now have the new striker design. Even though drag isn’t a problem Sig made improvements to where it’s barely noticeable. Even with “drag” I really like the 365. I hope you’ll enjoy it just the same.
Thanks. I just ordered a threaded barrel for my p320 compact to see if it can be slightly closer to my full sized p320. Your voice has become familiar to me now.
Hey I love the video, helped me decide what I'm doing for a Christmas gift but for the owner of the gun he has a kydex holster and I was just wanting to know if it would fit the holster with the extended barrel ? Thank you
Got my 365 about 2 months ago (first firearm) and had no idea how to strip it watched ur video had it done in 2 minutes so I want to say thank you being very informative for that! I just picked up the stainless at my local store and it looks beautiful on it glad too see the velocity difference in this video. Is there a mini comp that would pair well or should I just order the one on website? I also have the tlr-6 on it as well would that be a issue at all I imagine not?
How many rounds were through that True Precision barrel? I tried a new one threaded and it was the exact same FPS as my factory shorter barrel with 147gr.
Correct. My first 365 was from the same timeframe. When it was sent in because of the trigger bar spring they installed the new striker and modified the slide for it. I believe they just drilled out the bottom of the striker cavity giving it a new angle.
Have you seen Paul Harrell's data on shooting the P365 with different loads in comparison between 380? He was getting much higher velocity from the Hornady Critical Defense and 124 grain Sig Elite Performance V-Crown. Love your videos.
I had too look it up but a bullet traveling at 1150 fps hits a 100 yard target in .2608695652 second. One traveling at 1100fps reaches the same target at .2727272727 second. That’s a .0118577048 difference. It’s really a non issue for me.
@@SigGuy just learning something here. Wouldn’t the longer or shorter sight picture affect the accuracy? I don’t understand how velocity can be a factor with such a small difference.
I just returned from the range performing a similar test but using a stock P365 vs 365XL. The XL averaged 41 FPS more on my reloads. But I compared 10 rounds of Federal's HST 124 from each gun. My chrony, with all of Paul Harrell's caveats, showed an average of 61 FPS difference between barrels. That is the difference 6 tenths of an inch made. Federal's website claims a velocity of 1150 FPS out of a 4 inch barrel. My Chrony showed 1132 FPS out of the 3.7 inch Sig barrel. I'll take that any day.
I love that you actually tested the velocity with the increased length… everyone else was just like, “Yeah, it looks cool!!! I’m not paying to look cool. Paying for performance. I’m retired and on a fixed income. It’s called priorities… few things I want. I wanted Magguts but something prevented that… Anyway, Thanx… keep being informative!!!
Thank you very much for the feedback. The increases velocity is the main reason I use threaded barrels. I try to provide as much information / data as I can to hopefully make decisions the viewers make easier. Again thank you for taking the time to provide feedback. I really appreciate it.
@@SigGuy can a threaded barrel, comp stand in as a stand off device? I saw on here what was called a Griffin (?) mini comp.
Very good video lots of valuable info. I ordered the threaded barrel for my XL.
Great comparison on the striker! 👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you sir.
I have a stock P365. I took it to the range the other day and picked up some spent casings. There is 0 primer drag on it. Each was clean and crisp. I also purchased this a month or so ago. I think production in Jan 2021. So I think they must've fixed it in production.
Thanks. Good test procedure. Good information.
Thanks for another great video. My P365 was made 3/16/19 and still has pretty bad drag. I ordered the updated striker for mine as well.
did it work?
@@Alberto-tk7uv yes it did. The new strikers eliminate drag. Only like 35 bucks
@@jaason101 did you order it from sig or ocg?
It does work, 0 primer drag, just bought a new p365 today in fde, we'll see if it holds up.
where did you purchase the new striker?
Just ordered myself one for my Sig p365! Ordered the stainless steel threaded one!! And I cannot wait to get it!!!!!! So much you can do to these little pistols!! I bet I've got well over a grand in mine already! And planning to get some raptor cuts on the slide and possibly a red dot? I'm running the green lima laser on it now. I like it... It made it look fantastic but kinda wish I would have gone with the red dot. But great video brother ✌
Appreciate the compliment sir. Sounds like you have a pretty sweet 365. It’s awesome how the 365 and the 320 are modular. I’m also loving all the companies coming up with mods.
@@SigGuy yes me too I would love to buy me a p320! I guess that will be my next birthday present LOL. I love my p365 so much I left work today and put another 250 rounds through it and still zero issues! I'm somewhere in the ballpark around 4000 round now
I have both a red dot and the green Lima Laser. Some times you are too close for a red dot.
That stiker drag on older design is pretty severe...i would think that would cause alot of lateral stress on the striker tip potentially causing breakage. I think strikers breaking was actually a pretty big issue in the 365 early days. So im glad they fixed the issue. I have the 365 xl and never had a drag problem which I attributed to the longer slide but im glad to see that they actually fixed the problem with the striker itself. Good video I have nothing negative to say...which is rare for me
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Great now I need to buy a true precsion threaded for my p365 lol
Just copped one for $135 shipped with less than 500 rounds through it. Reddit is awesome for deals, awful for money saving
Did you purchase the striker from Osage County Guns? the one that is listed on their site?
Alberto Quintana yes sir.
I read in sigtalk that the real issue with the drag is that the hole in the slide in not aligned properly so it bends the little end of the pin causing it to break, because of that if you send your gun to sig they also change the slide....make sense
That really doesn’t make much sense. If that were true how does simply switching to the new striker eliminate drag? It’s the same slide. 🤔
@@SigGuy thanks for your reply! Maybe being a harder one or being thinner dont rub the sides, who knows...
You CAN get a match grade p365 barrel. I have one. It didn't help. It is a 3.1 inch barrel......
Edit: so will hollow points be below expansion threshold with those velocities?
They have nice barrels problem is you can’t see photos of each coating
My gold type TiN Glock 26 9x19mm barrel is fine. I bought it Dec 2022. I shot around 1200 factory 9mm in it. No streak, scuffs, wear.
I purchased a new p365 with Oct 15 birthday and so far put over 400 rounds through it, not one instance of striker drag.
Charles Howell XL?
@@SigGuy No, the regular P365
@@SigGuy Oh my friend could you please send me the link to where I could possibly get one of those strikers and 1 of those threaded barrels please and thank you
Damon Soti Osage County Guns sells the strikers and true barrels. Use the code “true” for 5% off of barrel and free shipping!
@@SigGuy tnk u
Hey, did you put any coating on that stainless barrel or is it just the uncoated stainless? Also hows it holding up if there's no coating on it, looks great just concerned that stainless with no dlc or nitride coating will scar up and wear fast, any thoughts after a decent amount of rounds through a non coated stainless barrel
Justin Dorminey it’s actually holding up better than my factory barrel.
I bought a TP barrel for my Glock 26 9mm gen 5 in 2022. The TiN barrel is easy to clean & so far has no problems, no scuffs, no rust. I clean my Glock with CLPs like Clenzoil or Slip 2000 EWL.
After plugging and chugging the data, one significant takeaway here is that the longer barrel shot more consistently than the shorter barrel and with higher velocity of course. It appears that you used a mixture of manufacturer's casings in this testing. Do you think that explains the occasional low velocity shots for either barrel length or was that a factor of your reloading such as measuring consistency for load, resizing, post crimping, etc.?
I never use steel or aluminum cases with any of my reloads. All brass.
I’ve read this a number of times:
“The telltale firing pin "wipe" is present on the primer fired in the SIG-Sauer. This is typical and to be expected. The SIG-Sauer pistols purposely have a bit slower firing pin retraction to help thwart debris from entering the firing pin channel.”
I don’t know if that’s true or not
Mark S Delaney I believe the drag has more to with how extremely fast the barrel starts to drop once it unlocks. If you have a 365 just slowly move the slide forward and you can see the barrel immediately drops. You can compare it to other pistols and you noticed that the barrel does not drop until the slide is quite a bit more forward than the 365.
Sig Sauer Guy
Yes, just did what you suggested and I see what you mean. You’ve been a great resource for me. Was cleaning my 365 today and the slide lock fell off my FCU. I went through your videos to find the fix. Waiting for my A.C. p320 trigger to ship.
Mark S Delaney and that is a great compliment. Thank you sir. I really appreciate the feedback. The trigger is SICK! Post a follow up please when you get to try it.
What grain bullets were used? Thank you for this test
Peter Griffin all my 9mm reloads use 124gr flat point RMR match winner jacketed bullets.
@@SigGuy Thank you! I'm really considering the threaded version of this barrel strictly for the increase in velocity without changing how concealable the p365 is. 40-50fps more can improve hollow point expansion, to me it's worth it. Thank you again for this video, its exactly what I was looking for👍
Peter Griffin if you decide to snag one check out Osage County Guns. Use the code “true” at checkout to save 5% and get free shipping. 🤙🏼
@@SigGuy i gotta say thanks for pointing me to osage, super fast shipping even considering the times, and awesome prices. a true winner.
If i were to buy a standard 365 today is this new striker design the one that's in it? Assuming the born date is within a month of purchase.
Dean Davis yes sir.
@@SigGuy thank you for clearing this up. Ive been eyeballing this gun for awhile as a summer carry and the drag was my only concern.
Dean Davis the drag is no worthy at all. It’s actually very common in smaller guns and even some full-size guns. Buy with confidence. Any 365 should come with the new design striker now.
Is the new striker just for the XL 365 or will it work in the regular 365 ?
All strikers are the same part. Fits all 365s. 😊
Very nice grip module. Where did you get the grip?
Just ordered mine 😃
Do you have this stiker on you Sig site ?
Yes we do! 😊
www.sigguy.com/product-page/sig-sauer-p365-striker-assembly
wow I can hit ab zone steel at 50 with mine. how much better can the barrel get? striker I will get.
Thank you, keep the gucci for the glocks.
How hard is it to install a new barrel, trigger, and striker? I'm the type of guy that might struggle to put a funky pen back together right lol.
Barrel's pretty easy. Striker and trigger are a little more involved.
what is the cost of the new striker and longer bbl? thks
Fiiiine I’ll buy it
So any word on when you guys are getting them p365 manual safety conversion kits back in stock???
This is a question you would have to ask Osage themselves.
@@SigGuy oh my mistake, I thought you were one of their main personnel
I have something for your 365 I think you’ll enjoy!
Justin Huffman ???
Sig Sauer Guy imgur.com/a/gmYdLMi
@@justinhuffman1957 rofl
Scitzo Could not unsee, figured I might as well have stickers made ha
Hey Buddy, is this redesigned striker an oem striker or no?
Yes sir. SIG part. I would not recommend an aftermarket strikers for the 365.
Ok thx.
Where do I get that striker for my p365xl
osagecountyguns.com/sig-sauer-kit-365-striker.html
Hey I have the tlr-6 light attached to my 365 xl. What holster do you recommend I get? I’m about to order the threaded true precision barrel as well!
you should look into a tactical development rail and get an olight pl mini or pl mini 2. huge difference! 400-600 lumens compared to 100 lumens from the trl6
Follow what page? Link?
Sig should be offering this new striker to anyone with an older p365
They will replace it for free, just send it in and say you're concerned about it
@@petergriffin383 who pays shipping?
@@rayhouthuysen9289 you do lol. I called sig and they wanted to charge me 50 bucks to send the gun In so they could put in a 30 dollar part.
This is exactly what I was looking for wondering how much length the true threaded barrel I would gain for my XL
*Video still useful in 2022*
Awesome video sir! Getting the true precision threaded stainless and Griffin micro compensator for my p365. Thank you for your work
vu le sweet. Do a follow up on that comp. Let me know what you think about it!
@@SigGuy I sure will. I want the p365 amory craft custom grip so bad but they are out of stock and i can fine it anywhere. So disappointed. U love the way ur p365 look!
vu le another batch is in the works. My 365 has changed a lot. I’ll post a pic
@@SigGuy cant wait to see it. Thx
vu le it’s under the community tab
My p365 was born on November 2019. Are all the bugs worked out on mine? Should I worry??
Not at all. My born on date is 11/08/19! And didn't know that until after I bought it!! What's crazy is I was born 11/08/70!!!!! Lol But man I've dumped well over 2000 rounds through it with zero issues 👍 absolutely no problems what so ever! No striker drag no feeding issues nothing! I've shot 147g ,115g, r.i.p ammo, fmj, hollow points, +p,+p+, it eats it all👍
Mine was born in January 2019 and it still has issues. Primer drag, FTEs every other mag, and the back plate falls xausing failures to go into battery.
Taylor Ballard primer drag is not a problem. Cycling failures as usually shooter induced. Don’t ride the slide and have a firm grip. The striker housing was redesigned to correct the backplate issue some experienced.
@@SigGuy thanks for the feedback but I know how to shoot my gun. Its a quality control issue. Many have the same problems. Sig has redesigned the p365 slide for a reason. Not only did they redesign the striker but they did the extractor as well.
@@SigGuy not bashing sig either because anyone that knows me knows I'm a sig fan boy just disappointed that they don't address these problems publicly. Search p365 FTE and see how many people are experiencing it. Or go to a thread online. Thousands are it cant be a coincidence that people are having troubles with ftes and then they redesign the extractor.
Sig"s SAS striker assembly leaves zero drag marks as well.
Icy Fan it’s the same as the new one in this video. All strikers going forward in all 365s will use the new beveled design.
🙏🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
What ammunition were you using for this evaluation?
Mine doesn’t have the primer drag issue. I bought it about a month ago though. It has about the same as my Glock 43 (technically all striker fired guns have some form of drag). Such an awesome gun
Yup. All new 365s for some time now have the new striker design. Even though drag isn’t a problem Sig made improvements to where it’s barely noticeable. Even with “drag” I really like the 365. I hope you’ll enjoy it just the same.
My 365x has minimal to no striker drag.
Thanks. I just ordered a threaded barrel for my p320 compact to see if it can be slightly closer to my full sized p320. Your voice has become familiar to me now.
Merdith Roach haha. Probably giving you nightmares lol. 🤙🏼
Hey I love the video, helped me decide what I'm doing for a Christmas gift but for the owner of the gun he has a kydex holster and I was just wanting to know if it would fit the holster with the extended barrel ? Thank you
Austin Bost really depends on the holster. Mine has a hole at the muzzle end. Threaded and non threaded fit fine.
@@SigGuy okay, thank you for the reply
You can always dremel sand a small spot for your barrel. I've done that on a couple older holsters that weren't designed for it with 0 issue
Got my 365 about 2 months ago (first firearm) and had no idea how to strip it watched ur video had it done in 2 minutes so I want to say thank you being very informative for that! I just picked up the stainless at my local store and it looks beautiful on it glad too see the velocity difference in this video. Is there a mini comp that would pair well or should I just order the one on website? I also have the tlr-6 on it as well would that be a issue at all I imagine not?
Is the non threaded barrel for the p365 rated for +p ammunition?
Congrats hit me 👆👆up for your package
How many rounds were through that True Precision barrel? I tried a new one threaded and it was the exact same FPS as my factory shorter barrel with 147gr.
We gonna talk about how the factory barrel doesn't have fluting.....
I ordered a striker and ended up having to return it. My 365 has a MAY 2018 built date and apparently, the slide was redesigned.
Correct. My first 365 was from the same timeframe. When it was sent in because of the trigger bar spring they installed the new striker and modified the slide for it. I believe they just drilled out the bottom of the striker cavity giving it a new angle.
Have you seen Paul Harrell's data on shooting the P365 with different loads in comparison between 380? He was getting much higher velocity from the Hornady Critical Defense and 124 grain Sig Elite Performance V-Crown. Love your videos.
Does that go for the 365X as well?
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What powder were you using? I use CFE pistol 5.0gr with 124 grain bullets. Works very well
I use anywhere from 3.9 - 4.3 grains of titegroup. 124g RMR Matchwinners.
Have you used a silencer with the p365. Looking into buying the Odessa-9
@@MrJedi5150 thx.
What is the real barrel length of that threaded barrel per the manufacturer? I can't seem to find it posted anywhere.
Jason Asunto 3.85
I wonder if the newer P365 with the manual safety comes with the new striker?
KirkDickinson I should look, just bought mine yesterday. Born on 10/2020. Thought I saw marks after 100 rounds
@@robertlyman9789 Bought mine shortly after posting that. It does leave the drag marks and has since the first round.
Mine was born in April of 2020 should I change my Striker?
wondering same thing
Probably not! It should have the new striker!
Like the frame... where can I get it? What’s the pattern called?
flyontop armory Craft makes those bud.
www.armorycraft.com
I had too look it up but a bullet traveling at 1150 fps hits a 100 yard target in .2608695652 second. One traveling at 1100fps reaches the same target at .2727272727 second. That’s a .0118577048 difference. It’s really a non issue for me.
Me either but the emphasis is more related to accuracy which is to me.
@@SigGuy just learning something here. Wouldn’t the longer or shorter sight picture affect the accuracy? I don’t understand how velocity can be a factor with such a small difference.
@@jerrybrooks7883 more velocity + lands and grooves = increased stability = increased accuracy