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Yes, but there's still so much to do still and there are many questions on what this will be like upon final. My biggest concern is theming of non-cosmic apps, will they look ugly and out of place? Also, what will HiDPI support be like? What about extensions? So many things in question.
I am a little confused why they felt that they had to implement so many things. Like cosmic edit - why couldn't that come later? Focus on the compositor and file explorer and then pull in other tools for the peripheral needs.
@@stephenkboltonI believe it was to flesh out the widgets and make a great standard set before launch, something that both KDE and GNOME had issues with in the past. The widgets were very primitive when they started developing Cosmic and not expanding them would quickly show how incomplete they were, this would make it easier for developers to build more tools in Rust.
The greeter is full of bugs and I ultimately had to switch back to gdm3 since I was getting locked out and could not even reboot without switching to a tty. Not sure how they will pull off Cosmic in time for their next release to replace their Gnome implementation that they are known for. I know its not even a beta right now and looks pretty and all, but I will stick to Gnome for PopOS.
A good Linux system always uses about 80% of RAM. The saying goes: unused RAM is wasted RAM. The system tries to know your habits and keeps programs in memory, so it can load faster
I was expecting to see the window tiling functionality, more than the set of wallpapers it comes with, which I’m sure most of us will forget after the five first minutes of using the Cosmic… Edit: fixed awful typos, thanks iPad.
Literally the first thing I look for in a DE is a Wi-Fi network icon w/drop-menu in the upper-right. (Pop!'s is irritatingly down a sub-level, but at least it's there. I didn't see Cosmic's at all during this video review, which basically means no thought has been devoted to using it in a mobile environment, i.e., on a laptop where you're changing networks constantly as you move.)
Because existing options didn't fit what they're trying to do with Pop!OS. This one is an entirely Rust based, multi-threaded desktop environment with its own Wayland compositor. Their aim is to provide better support for features like HiDPI, HDR, and fractional scaling and they have the freedom to do it without the overhead of legacy code and an existing ecosystem they have to worry about breaking.
I know this is ALPHA, and sure...it looks ok But I have ZERO idea what makes this amazing let alone more amazing than Ubuntu Noble Numbat. I don't see nothing impressive whatsoever..and Wayland looking like trash. I don't get it.
I'll be honest. This is not really that modern or interesting, apart from being written in Rust. As much as I hate the default Gnome UI (I can't live without extensions), some of its paradigms are much more modern and smarter than this one. Also, too high RAM usage (and being pre-alpha doesn't mean that it will ever shrink -- if anything, it grows).
This is a very pessimistic viewpoint. Making a desktop environment is a massive undertaking. Comparing it to something like modern GNOME, which has essentially been in development for the last 15 years with heavy funding from IBM and Microsoft is a bit unfair to say the least. It is common for RAM usage to shrink considerably once a project gets out of heavy development, this is exactly what happened with both Plasma and GNOME. Once you get done pumping out features, you can reroute your resources to improve performance.
Gnome has been around for what 25 years and you're complaining about something that hasn't even been released yet? Maybe Windows is more your speed, bud.
@@EugeniaLoli It does though, because GNOME has constantly updated their UI throughout the years. Alpha software doesn't just mean the software is unstable, the UI is also subject to a lot of changes as development goes on.
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Looking good. Everyone doubted that they could pull it off but they did.
Yes, but there's still so much to do still and there are many questions on what this will be like upon final. My biggest concern is theming of non-cosmic apps, will they look ugly and out of place? Also, what will HiDPI support be like? What about extensions? So many things in question.
I am a little confused why they felt that they had to implement so many things. Like cosmic edit - why couldn't that come later? Focus on the compositor and file explorer and then pull in other tools for the peripheral needs.
@@stephenkboltonI believe it was to flesh out the widgets and make a great standard set before launch, something that both KDE and GNOME had issues with in the past. The widgets were very primitive when they started developing Cosmic and not expanding them would quickly show how incomplete they were, this would make it easier for developers to build more tools in Rust.
'Super' key could open app launcher, where you would be able to check new file manager and text editor
Rust is life!
The greeter is full of bugs and I ultimately had to switch back to gdm3 since I was getting locked out and could not even reboot without switching to a tty. Not sure how they will pull off Cosmic in time for their next release to replace their Gnome implementation that they are known for. I know its not even a beta right now and looks pretty and all, but I will stick to Gnome for PopOS.
Same. We'll have to wait and see. Thanks for watching.
I just wonder why Pop Os has a high ram usage?
Keep in mind it's pre-alpha. Thanks for watching.
@@TheLinuxITGuy I was about to ask the same question, because I had seen a video on nixos where it would use about 1.8gb. Great video yy
COSMIC needs only ~300 MB. The rest is used by the kernel and system services.
@@mmstick thanks for sharing this
A good Linux system always uses about 80% of RAM.
The saying goes: unused RAM is wasted RAM.
The system tries to know your habits and keeps programs in memory, so it can load faster
I was expecting to see the window tiling functionality, more than the set of wallpapers it comes with, which I’m sure most of us will forget after the five first minutes of using the Cosmic… Edit: fixed awful typos, thanks iPad.
Literally the first thing I look for in a DE is a Wi-Fi network icon w/drop-menu in the upper-right. (Pop!'s is irritatingly down a sub-level, but at least it's there. I didn't see Cosmic's at all during this video review, which basically means no thought has been devoted to using it in a mobile environment, i.e., on a laptop where you're changing networks constantly as you move.)
I’ll keep my eyes peeled when I do the updated video. Thanks for mentioning this.
Why another DE?
Because existing options didn't fit what they're trying to do with Pop!OS. This one is an entirely Rust based, multi-threaded desktop environment with its own Wayland compositor. Their aim is to provide better support for features like HiDPI, HDR, and fractional scaling and they have the freedom to do it without the overhead of legacy code and an existing ecosystem they have to worry about breaking.
Why not? Linux is what you want it to be. The more options the better.
I don't see why not...
For once I'm excited to try a new one
Because
man, you got a great-sounding voice, bet you could read some audible books. would be damn good.
Awe man, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
I HATE the font just look at the "98%" at the cosmic greeter, ew. >>
Well it is pre alpha, Im sure things like fonts and stuff are in the pipeline. Besides theres bigger concerns for me than the greeter.
I don't mind the font. I'll be glad when I can login. Thanks for watching and the comment.
You don't set it to true, you just coment it.
Hmm, I had to set Wayland to true. Unless I'm misunderstanding you.
@@TheLinuxITGuyYou just comment out that line instead of changing it to true. Read the comment above. But I guess it works like you did it so..
You don't need all this reboots
Meh. Clean and easy way to do it, but if Chuck Norris wants to restart some services, he certainly can. Thanks for watching.
u are using pop os
Yes, it's in the title.
@@yorimirus I use arch linux
I know this is ALPHA, and sure...it looks ok But I have ZERO idea what makes this amazing let alone more amazing than Ubuntu Noble Numbat. I don't see nothing impressive whatsoever..and Wayland looking like trash. I don't get it.
Just gotta wait and see.
Uh oh... an angry Nvidia user has entered the chat.
I'll be honest. This is not really that modern or interesting, apart from being written in Rust. As much as I hate the default Gnome UI (I can't live without extensions), some of its paradigms are much more modern and smarter than this one. Also, too high RAM usage (and being pre-alpha doesn't mean that it will ever shrink -- if anything, it grows).
This is a very pessimistic viewpoint.
Making a desktop environment is a massive undertaking. Comparing it to something like modern GNOME, which has essentially been in development for the last 15 years with heavy funding from IBM and Microsoft is a bit unfair to say the least. It is common for RAM usage to shrink considerably once a project gets out of heavy development, this is exactly what happened with both Plasma and GNOME. Once you get done pumping out features, you can reroute your resources to improve performance.
Gnome has been around for what 25 years and you're complaining about something that hasn't even been released yet? Maybe Windows is more your speed, bud.
@@q.edwards4891 Being around for 25 years doesn't make something more modern, if anything, the opposite. So your argument doesn't hold.
@@EugeniaLoli It does though, because GNOME has constantly updated their UI throughout the years. Alpha software doesn't just mean the software is unstable, the UI is also subject to a lot of changes as development goes on.
And just because you can read doesn't mean you understand...