Crysis Remastered PC Revisited: DLSS, New Content, Improvements - But Is It Fully Fixed?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ค. 2024
- Crysis Remastered has re-emerged - the Ascension level has been restored, DLSS has been added and numerous fixes have been made. There are clear improvements here but it's still not quite everything it should be. Alex Battaglia - of course - reports.
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I swear all we really want is the original Crysis but utilizing more than one core.
Facts
Get the 64 bit patch, or grab the GOG version, which strangely is the only version that comes with the 64-bit update by default.
The performance of the remaster is definitely better than the performance of the original. It just doesn't look this much better than the original (what many have hoped for).
@@xijinpingpong4426 if you have the 64 bit patch for the original, then comparing that to the remaster; the remaster absolutely does NOT perform better.
@@thatzaliasguy 64bit sucks on older cpus tho (C2 series). 32bit and DX9 are a MUST on those in order to maximize fps and have manageable lows. Just saying so people know.
I'm still disappointed that it's based on the console version because it means that most of the physics, wind interaction and volumetric clouds will never be a thing in the remaster.
Re-remaster for the PS5 and Xbox series x i wonder if that will fix it lol
@@wii166 yes it'll fix it. It'll be 60/120fps. But still off the original console version
@@wii166 That's the thing that is stupid, these are features from a 2007 PC game, which could be mistaken for a 2011 game quite easily, but should at least run okay on current gen, the new consoles should have all that and PC needs it. They shouldn't have been so lazy and just done a console and a PC version even if PC was delayed further
Yea they wanted to spend the least amount of money to get the biggest return, it was easier and cheaper for them to use the console port as a base.
Volumetric clouds can be enabled in this game. If they won't do it, wait for the community to make it, lol
Psycho still looks like a lump of clay in remastered.
Lol
@@violettfem5093 There's no Subsurface Scattering in remastered version.
@@violettfem5093 Or perhaps time for a monitor upgrade?
that's because he's british
Yea they really still have a lot of work to do to make this a definitive version.
That jitter on the foliage is because they removed a unique anti-aliasing technique that was only applied to alpha mask foliage textures. Its not present in the remaster and its a shame. It addressed that foliage jitter at a distance issue and also made foliage look more full and realistic at a distance. There is a presentation the developers did shortly after Crysis was released where they talk about it. They really should add it back in. I've never seen foliage rendered in game as good as it was in the original crysis.
It's also a shame we still don't have save states :(
r_useEdgeAA ? That shit was like a rudimentary version of FXAA. Crysis always had HORRENDOUS image quality. Even TAA is a big improvement. DLSS is the real solution.
@@forasago FXAA applied to the entire rendered image. Their implementation only applied to foliage using alpha masks. It was unique.
There are a lot of things that are still missing.
- No FOV and view model slider
- No leaning with controllers (even though it could be easily implementable)
- Broken binoculars on wider monitors than 16:9
- Controller auto-aim is badly implemented and only work 1 out of 20 times (and the game should use bullet magnetism with controllers anyway, similarly to Halo games)
- There's no option to toggle sprint
- The sensitivity options for controllers are limited (no ADS sensitivity)
- The CPU utilization is still extremely high
High CPU utilization is literally the only major thing that stops me from trying out the game.
Hopefully they'll fix it eventually, but until then, i'm sticking to the original.
um, you mean low? (CPU utilization)
Because it's still a DX11 title. If it were DX12 or Vulkan, it'd be MUCH better.
Extremely low CPU utilization
The console controls are also still isn't as tight and precise as they should be. It's a little bit difficult to aim properly with a controller atm. They still feel as loose and imprecise as the PS3/Xbox 360 versions of the game which wasn't very good imo.
Also the PS4/Pro version still doesn't have gyro aiming support despite it being a supported feature on the platform.
I personally find DLSS quality setting to be superior in terms of image quality than basically everything else. It has the right amount of smoothing of jaggies and stability in motion and sharpening compared to most other AA solutions. The fact that it does this while saving performance is kind of mind blowing, because I'd actually take a performance hit over no AA gladly to implement such AA.
Totally agreed.
Yes i agree. Dlss quality actually looks very good in this game.
Looks like implementing DLSS was easier than improving CPU utilization. Pretty good update, but the game still far from being perfect.
Except they did improve CPU utilization. 6 percent increase in frame rate when not GPU bottlenecked and ray tracing isn't as demanding on the CPU. Yes it's not perfect but it's disingenuous to say that they didn't do anything to improve CPU utilization.
@@lukamegru1537 To be fair, yes they did, but its still very poor by today's standards. Its especially obvious if you're looking at modern titles like cyberpunk where all cores and threads loaded by around 70%.
@@johnsmith-ck4qt high CPU utilization dosen't equal good optimization. Cyberpunk runs awful despite being very multithreaded. Digital foundry is giving a poor representation of CPU scaling for crysis. They are intentionally putting as much stress as possible on the CPU and then claiming that it is horribly CPU bottlenecked. If they went down to the ground instead of looking over the hillside they would gain like 20+ fps.
@@johnsmith-ck4qt lol you're saying cyberpunk is well optimized? it uses 70% of the cpu but its a very bad use specially speeding with the car
@@lukamegru1537 the entire point is to show the moments that stress the CPU the most, who cares that CPU runs fine when you're shooting people in the middle of nowhere if it's gonna die at the school level
this helps equate it at least a little bit
This game simply wasn't ready and was crippled out of the gate. The fact that it took this long to ammend a title critical in reinvigorating and gauging any further interest in not only the series, but also the game engine is astonishing. And even then it's not even fully fixed.
I hope Crytek don't cheap out next time and take care with their future Crysis games.
It was mostly doomed from the moment they took the easier path by building the remaster from the inferior console port instead of the original PC release.
My guess would be that it was originally just a switch port that they decided last minute to release on other platforms.
>I hope Crytek don't cheap out next time and take care with their future Crysis games.
Honestly I just don't see that happening, I think crysis is gone for good
I think we'll see warhead remaster soon.. But not a new one
Pretty sure we won't be getting a new Crysis
Glad to see Ascension is back. I always thought it was one of, if not the most technically impressive level in the game.
Yeah.. it's not.
I can remember Me, flying down to the Ground and playing with the Console in thus Level. The amount of Details combined with the freedom to fly and shoot around was amazing! Truely an impressive Showcase!
I appreciate your thoroughness testing out the update.
Dlss is where performance , resolution and visual quality come to an agreement.
If only cheaper cards supported that tech.
@@arciks11 They do now. If only any of those cheaper cards were avaliable near MSRP or at all...
@@arciks11 I do think that NVIDIA is heading that direction, we already got ASUS Accidentally leaking a RTX 3050.
So I wouldn't be surprised if not with Ampere, with Lovelace we see Tensor Cores all across the product stack of NVIDIA's Gaming-intended GPUs.
My personal hope is that NVIDIA updates the MX450 from cut-down Turing to a MX550 with full Ampere or Lovelace-SMs.
With 14 Ampere SMs (The same SM number in the MX450 but the latter with Turing)
They'd have 1792 CUDA Cores, 14 RT cores, and 56 Tensor Cores
56 Tensor cores is enough to use the full suite of DLSS's features up to 4k at least.
Heck, the bottom-line to make DLSS work with all it's features at 4k is likely only around 20-24 Tensor Cores (5-6 Ampere SMs), although likely expect to see that in either the Switch 2021/Ampere based ARM SoC GPUs.
But yeah, if they wanted to, with Ampere's Config, they could make a fully-featured DLSS solution in a cheaper thin-and-light Laptop.
@@Alovon 3060 is already a garbage card, so why would they make a 3050?!
@@arciks11 a 2060 was around for more than two years now.
All of this, and Nomad still can't sprint crawl like he could in the original
aw man really? i spent half the original game crawling!
@@kuyans3889 yea, sadly not a feature in remastered. I immediately switched back to original release lol
@@kuyans3889 confirmed
Do you mean sprint or crawl? Make up your mind.
Ooooh, you meant _sprint-crawl_ - sprinting while crawling. Well, then spell it correctly, why don'tcha :P
This Remaster needs a Remaster. But honestly, Crysis needs a remake. Its a good freaking game and worthy of it.
I agree, they should do a remake. Maybe in 10 years ? Crysis remake on the playstation 6 ? Can it run Crysis at 8K ? 😉
I think they will come up with warhead remaster soon in next update.. But for now remake is impossible
The overall gameplay needs an update in my opinion. It just feels so clunky, especially on consoles.
They should just do a sequel, hopefully more like the original crysis
They just put not enough effort into the remaster. Some things are really good, but that the opening scene still looks worse than in the original is just embarrassing. It looks in most cutscenes like a PS3 game.
Loving these revisited episodes! 😚✨Always thought about how a game is playing now. Good to see DF still No. 1 to rescue.
Thanks! I needed settings video for updated version!
Nothing better than waking up to a brand new DF video. Let's goooooo.
I clicked the bell! This channel is goated you guys are great at what you do! 🙏🏾
Yessssss you know it's a banger when Alex drops a rtx and dlss analysis video
So basically DF reviewed a patch... to a meme.
One thing I noticed though is they seemingly got rid of the cool water physics effects that the game launched with.
They still haven't fixed the texture below the ironsight on the gun...
You are talking about scar? If so there's a fix for it on moddb.
You guys should look at the enhanced edition mod from remastered studio
DLSS is love, DLSS is life. I was one of the RTX skeptics, but DLSS made me a devout believer in these cards.
Finally, looking forward to this!
It becomes better yes, but was this type of remaster really cost and time efficient? Crytek needed a big boom to promote their engine and their expertise of graphics engineering. But meanwhile there are so many developers and engines which surpasses this remaster in terms of graphics. In my opinion Crysis needed a remake with mindblowing state of the art graphics to bring Crytek back in the minds of gamers. In my eyes the Metro series is the new showcase of modern first person realtime rendering.
But Can it Run Metrro Exodus Enhanced PC Edition? ;) agreed, metro is the visual benchmark king these days
You guys really need to take a look at the RT boost mode. It adds ray tracing to pretty much every surface.
Thank your for this revisit Alex! You didn't mention that they have fixed the shadows in the alien ship and the particles in the mine. They have said they are fixing the motion blur issue and are working on the foliage which was fixed in an earlier patch that they rescinded to make it better later on. For those talking about colour grading grab a reshade there's a few that sort it out.
DLSS needs to be used in more games. Red dead 2 would be good.
YES!
1. It would give an alternative to RDR2's blurry TAA, which I wouldn't say looks BAD, but it's certainly better suited to a TV than a monitor
2. More GPU headroom to crank up those settings!
@@bearpuns5910 For sure.
i have some good news for you, it was just announced!
@@vcarree YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS :D
@@bearpuns5910 i hope this makes your day a bit more 'bear-able'
Almost six months since release and the remaster is still inferior to the original in some aspects...
True
It probably always will be. This is the gimped console port from last-last gen
Still can't sprint prone, 0/10
Seriously though I'm pretty damn disappointed with this "Remaster", they took the easy road and this is where it got them
Should have been a remake instead. Unfortunately I'm not sure crytek was up to the task at hand. A remake may have not made it in time when the previous gen still is relevant. In addition I'm not sure they even could afford it given their financial troubles. I think they also wanted something that's available on both the Ps4 /Xbox and Ps5/Xbox series x and s.
Fine Video! Auf Wiedersehen :-)
Flight deck, not fleet deck. But great vid! Always love the Crysis vids from you Alex
@ 9:15 the reason resolution affects performance is because Crysis increases draw distance and LOD quality the more pixels are present around rendered distant objects. It's effectively a form a compensating for clarity in distance where at higher resolution, lower LOD quality and worse draw distance would be more obvious. Unfortunately it does have the negative effect of hurting the already constrained CPU performance.
Great videos!!
I wish for a new video showing performance with latest CPUs and the RTX 4090.
I'm sure Alex wants to
TY for this great review.
They need to fix that damn palm tree's leaf pattern, its the same on EVERY tree with that broken leaf at the top!
6:30 love that NSN shoutout!
Il probably get this when I upgrade my pc, by then itl be on Steam in a state that would probably be further improved.
Thank you for going back to this Alex!
if you still haven't played it, just play the original. Quick saves are an integral part of the experience imo
@@LoZioPao wow, they still haven’t added quick saves? I got the original ages ago but I keep having so many small issues that mess with my experience like display issues and save games ect ect.
9:07 At High and Medium settings the foliage textures are now identical to Very High, and the SHADOWS span all the way to the horizon when before not even the village had any shadows. And all that with a higher framerate than previously. This and the return of Ascension are huge surprises for me. At this point I got excited and started pondering whether it's finally worth buying. Then the foliage still has no physics and while apparently the suit controls were improved they're still not the same. Crysis was a flawed game to begin with. It simply cannot afford a "side-grade", especially when it comes to gameplay. I could accept the side-grade graphically since the CPU bottleneck seems to be basically removed at this point. Seeing the village part running at almost 200 fps is almost reason enough to buy a GPU (hypothetically, if it was possible to buy GPUs still). But after 14 years you can't expect people to put up with the janky gameplay + extra baggage from a botched PC-console-PC porting process. Crysis needed a gameplay make-over that fixes a ton of elemental problems over a decade ago. Somehow the console version didn't accomplish that which is bad enough. But to then slap some of the PC features back into said console version and release THAT as the "Remaster" of the original game - just not good enough.
Glad The Ascension level is back, that's great news. Might push me to get the remastered trilogy when it arrives.
KEEP EM COMING LORD MASTER!!!
"Alex Battaglia - of course - reports." of course.
A horse
A norse horse reports to the courts on crysis ports
Why say ''of course'' when Alex report this game?
@@toufu19 he's the "crysis guy". Half of Digital Foundry's videos are him talking about Crysis. Maybe two thirds
Like a kid in a sweet shop, Alex lives and breathes Crysis since 2007. When he went to Crytek studios with John last year he almost wet himself with excitement!!
The first time I played Crysis Remastered on my 6700xt/5800x rig on CIRC settings it reminded me of playing C1 on very high with my old 8800gt Phoenom II X4 810. Got 20 FPS then, got 20 fps now.
"More than half a year has passed since Crysis Remastered launched."
*Stares blankly into the distance.*
Yeah wtf.
The game also has an issue with assault scopes causing TAA smearing because the game doesnt seem to account for the transparency of the scope when generating motion vectors.
This issue carries over from the PS360 version I believe. I had the ps3 version and any transparent surface caused insane amounts of ghosting (and mind you that version ran at an unstable 30fps which made it even worse)
12:19 optimised settings priorities
Thanks Alex, great content as always.
I'm still hoping CryTek keep updating and improving the Remastered version of this game to match the original in every way.
Also, Steam release!?
that texture error on the scar rifle is annoying, it wouldn’t be so egregious if it wasn’t right up close to the screen
was it an issue in the original ?
@@tuocbui no it was not, you can boot up both games and see it for yourself. the texture is doubled in crysis remastered, and oddly the sling hook was also removed. I realize its a big nitpick, I just find that error annoying
There is a patch that fixes Ascension performance in the original, you can download it as a .pak, it was a problem with particle rendering but performance is fixed with the mod patch.
I actually prefer the super-sharp look of the SMAA 1TX. Look at trees in the summer like that and they shimmer in the same manner.
I also prefer native 4k with some light AA like SMAA. DLSS 2.0 at quality mode does reconstruct to a 4k image extremly well (I cannot tell the difference on a 32" monitor), but sometimes with aggressive AA depending on the game. Control does a really nice job imo and I don't bother the small difference in sharpness compared to native with weaker/no AA. The FPS increase is crucial. Warzone however applies "Filmic TXAA 2x" or something like that when DLSS is activated. Super aggressive AA that just really makes the image blurry. Whether at native res or upscaled with DLSS, such kinds of AA are just really contraproductive at 4k. They use an AA method that is rather suited for FHD at best. I hope that the AA method can be chosem in the future.
Damn, nice seems like it is now in a state where it can easily be bought and played :)
I miss the multiplayer man. I had tons of little tactics to use on the map Mesa. Fun times.
I also noticed using Strength Throw while holding down F does nothing. Swapping into Strength mode and then throwing it with left-click makes you throw anything much further like in the Original. Also double tapping melee doesn't actually Strength melee despite the Nanosuit switching to Strength mode. In the original it did that because it would consume energy.
Game still has an absurd level of input lag on the console versions. It's unplayable on PS5 via backwards compatibility. Really hope they fix it at some point.
Tried it out on my series x recently, it's like night and day compared to playing on the one x. All modes are buttery.
Doesn’t feel right on ps5 and doesn’t feel finished. I have few videos posted.
@@skwurt11 I mean, in-game performance is solid on both next gen consoles via backwards compatibility but how is the input lag on the Series X (how long it takes for a button press to respond on screen), it's awful on PS5 at the moment. Feels like you're streaming the game or if you've ever played KZ2, it feels similar to that.
@@mrratchet ouch, I really hope they at the very least fix the input lag. I would love to see PS5 and series X native versions. The input latency on series x is pretty minimal especially if you use the series controller. But up until last week there were some issues with the firmware itself causing button presses to not register but that seems to have been cleaned up.
Find yourself someone who loves you like DF loves Crysis and Control.
And CRTs
Control and Doom Eternal is what the gaming industry is supposed to be
I saw the new trailer an hour ago and thought: "I wonder when Digital Foundry's gonna cover this."
And here we are, you guys are awesome 😎👍.
I just got a free copy of remastered so the timing of this video is great.
The opening scene as seen at 15:56 just looks sooooo much better in the original game. It basically looks like you mistakenly swapped the labels of the clips, if it weren't for the difference in texture resolution and the fact that I played it myself.
so what your saying is our Original Crysis versions from 2007 are still the OG version and we should just play that? Gotchya !
(Slap Blackfire Mod on for some fancy lighting/shadows)
Sweet, Can’t wait to go home and try out new update. One of my fav games of all time as well, I love your vids and how you explain everything.
Wow, the official Crysis TH-cam channel just released now the trailer of this update 😰
Chill, DF dudes...
... And of course it had to be Alex talking about Crysis.
Sponsored =)
@@evdokmv They need to disclaim if they are sponsored and it's not the case here. They probably just received an early "copy"/unlock of this patch.
@@Ayoul Maybe, I just noticed how their trip to Crytek last year was a bit strange, like Alex unterstood at that time that the remaster would be pretty dissapointing but they still made a positive video. Being a huge Crysis fan he must have been dissapointed with was he saw.
Great video as always!
I know it’s just psychological, but somehow this remaster feels extremely pointless when you own the original. At least when any hiccups I experience my brain tells me “hey it’s an old game” and not get caught up. It seems to run fine on my new pc at any rate. It’s like low framerates on my n64; no bother at all until I try to run the same game on an emulator.
Funny how the mind works
9:06 the scene looks significantly different, but not sure if it's more noise or more detail
At 8:58, Launch version mountains on the left side look better, right side look worse lol. 2.1 Left side mountains straight up seem to have lost their shape or the shadows forgot to bounce
Alex "Mr Ray Tracing" Battaglia
It's embarrassing a 2020 remaster still looks worse in many aspects compared to the original 2007 PC game.
@Esuard Leder yeah but almost everything else looks worse though. I have both versions and i would say 90% of the time, the remaster looks significantly better
@Esuard Leder it does actually. Everything from lighting to the textures. With a few exceptions here and there of course
I actually like the sky more in remaster, but the trees are both meh in original and remaster :(
Hopefully they fix this in its entirety by the time it hits steam! (I assume it’s a timed epic exclusive, not a permanent one)
Auf Wiedersehen :)
How is the game still messed up, amazing bad. What were they thinking
Money money money money
Nice Nanosuit Ninja shoutout! Watching that dude play Crysis will make you feel like you don't know how to play games in general.
Yeah I'm giving up hope on this one and declaring this remaster: T R A S H
Finally it might be playable
Crysis orginal is made with CryEngine 2 which is only for PC ,that engine is a monster! There are things in the orginal ver of the game that we don't see in many games even today that why orginal is much better in all things than crysis remastered on ps3 and xbox 360 on Cryengine 3 console version , i think they lost codes or things from CryEngine 2 ver of the orginal game thats why they had to remaster the ps3 version for ps4 ps5 and xbsx even pc !
but sure ray tracing and SVOGi + higher better textures is nice and all but many things are missing from 2007 CryEngine 2 version that magic i saw in 2007 ver will stay on CryEngine 2 of the game for pc i think.
I will only buy this game if they release the editor. That was the best part about the original.
We need multiplayer, I want to play power struggle again
If they seek full price of the remaster they must fix everything . 30FPS foliage animation is not acceptable.
It's $14.99 atm
lol the description was funny
Big improvement on PC. Actually playing it again. Hope the console versions get something similar.
this game looks so amazing
It’s not perfect but it’s much better now, when I found out about the dlss update I got on the game for the first time in a while, wish I knew about the ray-tracing performance fixes, would’ve bumped that up from performance
I wonder how the 2.1 console version stacks up to this PC version.
If console even got the update yet.
Video idea?
Gunna pick this up maybe next month in the steam summer sale if the price is right
Maybe a tenner or less
@@TomsTech94 It's a tenner on Epic rn if you haven't grabbed it
Crytek, I love crysis, I have all the crysis games and of course crysis remastered . Please do us fans a pleasure and release the sandbox editor for crysis remastered! It was such an awesome time back in 2007 with crysis and the sandbox editor!
It feels like they been teasing us such editor (indirectly like modifying some aspects not there before) from some of their twitter images. I do hope it does comes out sooner rather than later.
I still think the original version of Crysis has a better color pallet than the remastered version
Ascencion was fixed by a mod on the OG Crysis.
I think the CPU bootleneck was caused by a bunch of particles being spawned off screen for no reason.
I really liked the Ascension level.
please enable youtube CC to translate what you guys are saying in english subtitles. i'm low hearing so it's difficult to even guess what you are saying.
and no ''crank up the volume'' doesn't work or is an option as it won't help. tv sound, phone call sound and reality talk sound are totally different.
It's enabled now for me I think
@@CorbettK42 it is. thank you :)
I downloaded it cuz it was on sale last weekend. Certain rock textures are super bugged and seem to have a flat grey texture with tons of vertex crawl until you enable cloak mode, then the rocks show up properly. Super weird.
'I was looking forward to this'
So we are waiting for the release on Steam in order to reconsider the technical side of the game with the latest update
The color grading in the original 2007 release is still far superior and more realistic to the Renastered. Way too much saturation and color.
Still waiting on a S.T.A.L.K.E.R series deep dive DF :D
are you gonna do a quick look at the latest update? I've seen articles it improves cpu and gpu performance by about 80% which just sounds insane.
I really hope multiplayer comes eventually.
The multiplayer was great. How the hell do you remaster a game and not include one of the best parts of it??
Still waiting (and wanting) for Warhead addition......
STILL no sandbox editor!? Hope this means when this is released beyond EGS it's gonna finally be the complete product it should be.
There was a new patch yesterday they said would improve GPU and CPU usage! Do we get one last Crysis video Alex???
Wonder if they'll update the console versions as free next gen updates.
Me watching this in a 2.4 inch(diagonal) window on my phone: Woow looks so good.
0:30 LEFT LOOKS BETTER!
Admit it guys!
Is there any word if they will be adding updates for the PS5 and XSX?
Will come this or next week. Was communicated over reddit from Crytek