Actually, those who claim to be non dual are dual and those who claim to be dual are non dual. Claiming that brahaman alone is real and world is appearance what else is it other than duality and claiming Narayana alone is real so much so that the devotee forgets about the world and even himself, all forms and names are of Narayana alone what else is it other than non duality.
In this Pandemic I came close to the philosophy of life . Now if I find a little free time I quietly hear Swami Sarvapriyananda's classes. Such a simple way of explanation to the core of Hindu philosophy .Thank you Maharaj .
VERY SIMPLE & LUCID LANGUAGE LECTURE.TREMENDOUS AUTHORITY ON SUBJECT MATTER.DEALT DIRECTLY WITHOUT CREATING ANY DOUBTS. SEEKING BLESSINGS FROM SWAMIJI. JAI RAMAKRISHNA.
If I may make one suggestion to beginners who are prepared to delve: Go with what resonates with you. Whatever you begin with, Bhagavad Gita, Brahma Sutras, Upanishads, etc., if it isn't resonating, do not pound your head against the wall trying to understand. Move to another source. Find something that resonates. And delve. If one Upanishad bores you or is over your head, try another. Some are very different from each other. If all of it is beyond your understanding and interest, then begin with a more popular book on the subject. Watch a video on youtube. There are many Advaitans who give talks. Buddhist talks can also help. Especially Dzogchen. Jiddu Krishnamurti doesn't publicly espouse Advaita, but deep down, he is. I have read lots. I use this one rule, and it has always served me well. *Go with what resonates.*
@turtle research That illustrates a bigger concern which is what if they are both wrong? It's the fundamental nature of reality being consciousness and we are each a part of that reality that I'm trying to make sense of. I get the concept but is it true is what I'm trying to get at. Some of the explanations of the 3 types of conscious/awareness experience (waking, dreaming, unconscious) are confusing to me as well as a few other things. I'm listening to the lectures anyways.
@@joelrivardguitar if you think they are wrong then you are free to discover your own path. There are other schools as well like Visistaadvait or qualified non dualism and dvait advait. In my opinion, it is impossible to know exactly the ultimate reality to the fullest but can approach it by any of the paths. All will lead us to the same destination
@@shuvamchatterjee8611 "if you think they are wrong then you are free to discover your own path." I didn't say they are wrong. I'm saying I'm taking a critical and rational look at the concepts and trying to see how they could be true? Our consciousness is part of a larger consciousness, Brahman. I believe it is solely from brain function. So I'm trying to find some evidence to latch on to. I cannot just believe something that doesn't provide evidence? We are all Brahman, ok, there must be ways to test or demonstrate this? Why do different branches of Hinduism disagree? Is it all just what people choose to believe is true? That would be no better than any religion? Is there a point where you can see how this is true or does a point come where you just go "ok I now believe this"?
It's an essential talk to be watch by those who want to criticize other schools of thought , it is greatest of great talks, Swamiji great, great thanks
I cried Profusely -- We are really knowing Nothing about greatness of Upanishad -- This is simply great .. Such a profound knowledge distilled in one hour discussion -- PRANAM SWAMIJI
Pranam Everyone 🙏, I just overwhelmed by the depth insights of today's Swamiji's teaching, wonderful Swamiji . You are very generous to every philosophy and here it is one of the proof of a enlightened person , never get identified of particular philosophy , though Swamiji belongs directly to Advaita philosophy but he openly admits of other philosophy's contribution in his spiritual journey that is something special character of Swami Sarvapriyananda ji from other Advaitan Philosopher . Lots of love and respect for Swami ji . I see my GURU material in Swamiji only . I wish someday I will take your blessing and become your discipal. I bow down to you Swamiji . Thanks everyone 🙏❤️😊
Swami sarvapriyananda is true icon of religious harmony these days. He conveyed DaVita philosophy even better than Amogh Lila Prabhu ji. And catholic Pope is just mouth piece of religious harmony but true heart is Swami sarvapriyananda. I may sound little bit of cheap mentality in this comment but someone needs to be loud n clear in this politically influenced world. Most importantly, I'm not enlightened enough to remain neutral in all scenarios.
Are there any superstition in Hinduism like astrology, black cat crossing in ved or it is added later on Also tell me about modern day superstition like spreading by new katha vachaks and pandits iss din yeh karlo , yaha chalejao , yeh khalo toh tumara kam hojayega like ias ban jayoge , amir hojayoge ?
@@pauldirc.. superstition does not mean fake,it is a belief,everything in hinduism is based on science andmmost of these stories have science behind it like the story of rahu ketu,but since the invasions,parents started telling their kids the stories but slowly generation after generation,they stopped explaining the science behind it and today we do many practices without knowing the meaning behind it,those are called superstitions,but it doesn't mean they're wrong,we just haven't learnt the meaning behind it,.... but yes,today some fake gurus create their own superstitions which i agree are dumb
@@pauldirc..Doing one Pooja will not give you gov job but doing daily Pooja will increase your capacity to sit at one place and concentrate which may help you in the studies for these gov jobs.
Such erudition!! Such wisdom!! Such poise!!! Not a single jarring note even while discussing competing philosophies. My humble Pranaams to Swamiji and the Ramakrishna tradition.
Some pointers here, just trying to keep things honest and accurate.
- First of all, Dvaita is not used in the term of “Duality” vs. “Non-duality”. The real name for Madhvacharya’s school is “Tattvavada”. It is a monotheistic pluralistic realistic school that fundamentally classifies the ontological nature of reality into just two categories: Svatantra and Asvatantra - “Self-dependent” and “Dependent”. The Swamiji did mention this. The supremacy (most vividly understood through his Self-dependence, and infinitely complete nature) Sri Hari, or Vishnu, or Narayana is the primary import of all Vedas “वेदैश्च सर्वैरहमेव वेद्य: || BG 15-15”
- One popular advaitic notion that needs to be removed is everything else other than Advaita is Dvaita. That is wrong. Everything other than Dvaita is Advaita. To quote Prof. Surendranath Dasgupta - “The only school of Vedanta in India that holds an uncompromising Dualistic view is Madhwa’s Dvaita - everyone else compromised with Advaita in one form or another…”. This will be very clear with serious study of Madhwacharya’s philosophy. - Definition of Vedanta differs in the two schools: o Advaita - Only Upanishads o Dvaita - Upanishads, but more importantly Brahma Sutras are the real “Vedanta” since without Badarayana’s aphorisms interpretations on Veda are not possible. - There was a cheeky comparison of Madhwas to Evangelical Christians. This, by the way is not a new view - ignorant people have been making it over the centuries. Giving the benefit of doubt to the swamiji, I can say a superficial view of the Madhwa attitude towards advaita could seem that way. However, the basis behind refuting wrong knowledge or viparita jnana is actually clearly mentioned in the Ishavasya Upanishad (shloka 9). It is our firm belief as vVaidikas that we should live up to that ideal: “Those who worship Vishnu with false understanding enter dense, unrelenting darkness; a greater darkness than that go they, who are merely devoted to the correct understanding (but do not care to criticize incorrect understanding). We may say, therefore, that “a great responsibility rests with him who knows; he is bound to teach others, [else] his lot is even worse than those of the ignorant.” [SCV11] Not only is it the case that one must condemn false knowledge in order to avoid the greater suffering that would ensue if one did not, but one must also do so because the two things, correct understanding and condemnation of incorrect understanding, each have their own separate result that one should seek.” - Dvaita does not randomly classify the Veda into Tattvavedika and atattvavedika. All the vedas, all the sacred scriptures are primarily conveying the majesty of God, and the way out of Samsara is to lose ahamkara and mamakara and understand that God is the real doer, not the self. The self is only an instrument, like an axe that cuts the ashwattha tree. So there are no differences between the Samhita and the Brahmana and the Aranyaka and the Upanishad, or the Ramayana, or the Mahabharata, or the Puranas. A deep study of Brahma Sutra and all other texts are required for this, a cursory glimpse or bedtime reading will not do. This is the meaning of the sutra - “Om Tattu Samanvayat Om”
- One thing that Advaitins forget, is that the traditional view holds that the Vedas are infinite - “AnantA vai vedAH”. Badarayana, or Srimad Veda Vyasa compressed the entire infinite Veda into 564 sutras for analysis. One should reflect - is this possible by a “mere rishi”?
- There we 19 Brahma Sutra bhashyas before Shankaracharya. So he was not, according to popular belief the first. He was the 20th Bhasyakara, and Madhwacharya was the 22nd.
- Madhvacharya’s brahma sutra bhashya - there are 4 - not 1. And nobody calls it “Purna Prajna Bhashya”. Here are the real names: o Brahma Sutra Bhashya o Anubhasya o Nyaya Vivarana o Anuvyakhyana - Jnana vs. Bhakti - unfortunately, the swamiji has is not totally accurate here. Jnana is the highest goal of any human - न हि ज्ञानेन सदृशं पवित्रमिह विद्यते । तत्स्वयं योगसंसिद्धः कालेनात्मनि विन्दति ॥ BG 4-38 Bhakti is culmination of the right Jnana, of the supremacy of God and His infinitely completely spot free and pure nature and the upakara without prayojana that he does for infinite Jivas for infinite time, out of His own purnAnanda svaroopa. In advaita, Bhakti has zero meaning. Bhakti towards what? What is the object of Bhakti? You are Brahman, so who are you showing devotion to? Devotion can only arise, by definition, to an entity that is many folds superior to you. As Hanuman said - "Dasoham Kosalendrasya" because Rama is swayam Bhagavan. One more perspective to think about: Jnana is the ultimate goal of Vedanta (all Vedanta - not just Advaita, that's another monumental misconception) "Nahi Jnanena Sadrisham". Karma, Bhakti, Vairagya all spring out of True Jnana. Without true Jnana, what meaning is there to Bhakti? (It becomes superstitious emotional sentimentalism) and Karma becomes empty rituals without any higher motive guiding it. Seeing one as different from the other does not make any sense. Jnana is the Gangotri. Thinking that Bhakti is different from Jnana is the same as not understanding what Bhakti is at all. Bhakti is the CULMINATION of Jnana - Atma Samarpana, and can only come from very mature souls.
- Ultimately, we should at least appreciate the honesty of the Ramakrishna order. The swamiji quite openly admitted that “we accept the statements from the Gita, with a footnote that they are all false”. I think what he meant by that is, if they say something that purportedly has a “Bheda bhava”, hethey will consider that vyavaharika, or anirvachaniya or sadasadvilakshana - for which there is zero proof in the vedas and plenty of proof in Buddhism, and has been througroughly refuted logically too. So Advaita quite simply becomes Buddhism cloaked in Upanishadic language. This is not an attack or an insinuation - it is quite literally the truth, whether you want to believe it or not.
- Another very basic mistake - belief in God in Dvaita is not blind faith. First of all Bhakti is not faith - it is love (sneha). The swamiji read out Madhwacharya’s definition of Bhakti, then forgot about it and contradicted himself later. Bhakti comes from knowledge of God and His supremacy. It comes from faith in SCRIPTURE, which talks about God. This scripture itself is Apaurusheya which is inherently flawless, therefore it is the only authority on God. That’s a huge topic in itself - but basically the swamiji oversimplified to a caricature.
- Last point: The job of reconciliation between different world views is that of a politician. Not that of a seeker of truth. This is why no Madhwa has ever seeked to reconcile with advaita. This is the truth the way we see it - and no amount of linguistic trickery can shake the nishtha in truth. To all serious students of Indian Philosophy - please LEARN SANKSRIT. Stop relying on English translations. Read all bhashyas with an open view. Come to your own conclusions. There are many traditional scholars who can guide you along your path. Please seek their help. Believing that you are Brahman is blind faith of infinite proportions. For someone really interested in Dvaita, please check this video out, it may give a more accurate painting of Vedic scripture as a whole. th-cam.com/video/Q9x2BYDX7DU/w-d-xo.html Uttishtha! Jagrta!
Most of the knowledge in their books were taken from buddhist text which saw humans as humans not on the basis of caste and apaurusheya 🤣🤣🤣 idiotic texts with no proof and of course they have written it in favour of a caste brahman 🤣🤣🤣
@@ex009adityarajsingh2 It's not even worth replying to this individual, but this will for the sake of other sensible people here. Veda is apourusheya. God is the highest Purusha. Put the two together, what you get is that Veda is not "from God". they are anadi and nitya.
Great illuminating talk as always by Swamiji (the main host however came off as ill-prepared with neither displaying understanding of the broader context about the subject matter nor displaying skills of providing lucid introduction at the start...The way he was reading questions at the end left a lot to be desired ... Hopefully he is replaced in the next such session....)...Looking forward to hearing the next session
One may remain confused even after listening to this wonderful analysis of swamiji.' Ramakrishna Kathamrita 'can dispel all confusions, I firmly believe.
No confusion. Advaitha (non dual shiva) and Dvaitha (dual shakthi) are INCOMPLETE without each other. In other words, without the immanent shiva or athma nothing exists or nothing can be perceived in its current form and without shakhti, shiva is shava (corpse). So, shiva and Shakthi always exist together for the perpetual duality cycles to happen. This is SANKHYA VEDIC metaphysics which combines ADVAITHA AND DVAITHA.
Advaita Vedanta is quite radical. But it gives instantaneous realisation, like a spark right now. If a little contemplation done on drig drishya viveka with correct understanding. It certainly, makes one realise about his true Brahman nature. It's a very powerful technique. The beauty of Advaita Vedenta is that, even after a speck of realisation that "I am Brahman", it increases our love bhakti for Personal god, even more. When An aspirant realises that essence wise he and god is not different, how realistic would be his devotion to god. After Advaidic realisation, the dualistic practice becomes as realistic as practicing only dualism. Ohm Tat sat
U just said that after realizing "we are the essence of god" simply specifies the principles of Dvaita Vedanata. Because your just an essence of God. Not God. You are still separate and not 100%.
@@keshavsikdar9284 Original Dvaitha vedanta does not say that. Only fake interpretations of Dvaitha vedanta (like in the case of Madhavacharya who did not exist) say that. Advaitha (non dual shiva) and Dvaitha (dual shakthi) are INCOMPLETE without each other. It is the reason why people say without shiva nothing exists and without shakthi, shiva is shava (corspe). Point is Shiva and Shakthi always exist together for the perpetual duality cycles to happen. This is Sankhya vedic metaphysics.
@@Dharmicaction go and read bhagwad Geeta instead of preaching ur imaginary hypothesis which itself has no basis nor have any facts to support. Loooooooool. Mayavadis like u r always deluded by maha maya herself which u so praise as adi shakti.
Dara Shikoh was the brother of Aurangzeb, Dara was interested in Adhyatma (Spirituality) from various paths including Sufi which is somehow very similar to sampradaya of Vedanta. He did the work of translating it via the translators. Interesting.
I don't know but from where i am totally devoted to Swami ji. I read his thoughts and the more I read the little i know. Always pleased to hear Swami Sarvapriyanand 🙏
Srimad Ananda Thirtha Bhagwat Padacharya 🙇🙇Sriman Vayu Devaru incarnates three times in this bhuloka as Hanuma in Treta Bhimasena in Dwapara Madwa in Kali 🙇🙇The Lord of Life incarnates for showing manava the correct interpretation of the Vedas, Upanishads, Geetha 🙏Hari Sarvothama Vayu Jeevothama 🙇🙇
This is very open and free minded discussion lecture and eye opening also. Great swamiji pranam to you. Also I appreciate questioners for asking very interesting and relevent
It's very disturbing to see many of the comments. We may or may not agree with some philosophy but we should have respect for the monks and Acharyas. Half baked knowledge is worse than ignorance. India has been a land of truth' seekers. We should first have an open mind to listen to different points of view. Defending a doctrine is not our culture.
Swamiji you are saying so straight way, so direct that I think this was only needed for me to establish in what l am - l am Brahman. Swamiji l have gone through your many lectures and I have no words to describe my satisfaction that how much l mean by this 🙏 lam really greatful thankful to you & my pranam in your louts feet swamijiyou have given me the most incredible in search of truth - lfeel as if l was waiting for your this diret word's only. Thank you again & again.
RUTA BHATT Even though you (athma) are temporarily at your office, you must perform your dharmic duty. So, no escapism from worldly matters in the name of omnipresent Brahman. Arjuna tried to play the card of everything is athman/brahman too but Krishna said Karma yoga is better than Jnana yoga in his context. So, it was Arjuna's dharmic duty to finish off his adharmic relatives.
A crude note on hermeneutics: . In the history of biblical interpretation, four major types of hermeneutics have emerged: the literal, moral, allegorical, and anagogical. . However, the Hindu way differ in its form and quality as we have shadlingas to interpret the Vedic mantras and shastras on one hand, the whole nirukta, chhanda, vyakarana, etc. as the tool to interprete tham. To add, our way of exploring the meaning and import in the light of adhyamik, adhibhautik and adhidaivik perspective should be based and extended to six dimensions of interpreting the vedic mantras as per one swami of arya samaji acharya nashthik agnivrata....
Spiritual representatives should learn from this guru on how to be respectful while being truthful about something. Iskcon leaders have been openly spewing hate to Advaitis, and to every others who don't align within their line. Truly he is an advaitin, because Advaita is just this, to be conscious of the reality. Whether the reality is against you, with you or with your oppositions, you must always seek truth. Thanks my Guru for shedding light 🙏
Q: Whose intellect is satisfied? A: “My intellect” is satisfied T: you admitted now that “intellect” is just your possession. That is not your true identity. Don’t stop until you find yourself. Intellect feels happy when it hears high philosophy. But why do you care to feed the intellect more and more? Be still and know your true Self.
Tat avam asi - you are "already" that. Athma is the conscious observer and experiencer of individual 5 senses.. But athman is not the doer. Without the immanent athma nothing can exist or nothing can be perceived in its current form. So, athman = brahman. Expansion of individual consciousness to cosmic consciousness is samadhi or moksha when microcosm becomes macrocosm.
Wonderful talk by Swamiji. What is surprising to s that these other people are not showing even 1% of the grace as swamiji. They are referring to the monastic order using words like “you guys”! This is why dvaita is important, it allows one to use positive emotions and attitudes to better understand Advaitha - love, humility, respect, correct words and correct behaviour. Usually millennials are blamed for not having respect, looks like problem is there with elderly people too. Indian culture always stresses respect to guru & elders, without even these in place how are they ever going to learn anything at all? 😩
I experienced that -- Humility is missing with all the organizer -- I suppose they have funded this program and that arrogance could be seen . SWAMIJI above all these - Does not affect in any form ..
When one says " Tree is Green" Tree is not exactly the same as Green- Green color is possessed by Green. The universe is Brahman means the Universe is possessed by Brahman. Whatever he says it contradicts our experience.
@@regardsk3815 but when you say wave is water,it is ok right? there is no real difference between both of them. Here, you can't say universe is a characteristics of brahman, because if there is really something other than brahman, then how can it be infinte?
@@abpt7647 wave is a quality of water. When air pressure acts with water . That water changes into waves. You may not see the air pressure with your eyes does it mean only water is there? I request you to analyze it completely. Please don't be carried away by half-truth. Water cannot change to wave unless there is another entity that is completely non-water. Then how do you say that water is wave only? waves are qualified with water and air. If waves are the same as the ocean we will not see it distinctly on the beach. Waves are distinct but inseparable from the ocean. LIkewise we have other living beings, fish and ocean beings all are distinct from the water but inseparable from the ocean. This is the reality of life. Waves and fishes are something different from Ocean but as on today they are never seperable from ocean. Thus all in one. This is oneness. Brahman is infinite. He is qualified by the Universe and living beings who are distinct to each other but never inseparable from brahman. Universe changes which is natural. Living beings born and die. All these happens even today as inseparable act of Brahman. From Sankaracharya time till today- the universe still exists. If he has discovered Universe is illusion and he is Brahman and there is only one Brahman which is Sankaracharya. Why the Universe exisit for you and I even today? So illusion still prevails even though many has realised the " they are exactly Brahman and Universe does not exisit" Universe cannot be called brahman. Both are totally defined different by Sankaracharya. Sankaracharya says remove the universe which is illusion what remains is Brahman. Sorry till today Brahman is infinite, living beings are inifinte and Universe is also infinite. Then where is oneness? Oneness is achiived as Brahamn qualified with Living beings and Universe, Brahman'sinfinite body as living beings and universe, Brahman's mode as Living biengs and universe, Brahman's infinite power or part as living beings and universe.
@@regardsk3815 before answering, i am asking you to explain the manifestation of universe from dwaitha point of view. That is,how this all happen, how universe emerge from perspective of brahman.i am asking it to know your view and also as a introduction of my answering Here in our example, water exist in a phenomenal world. So there must be cause for it to transform into wave and that is air pressure. But adwaitha is trying to say something different that is, when we come to our situation, brahman is infinite and so is devoid of cauality(brahman is not an entity of phenomenonal world like water). We are quoting that example *only* to show the relation of universe with brahman is existantial .So, if the universe is born out of brahman, you can't ask why.Thus there is no need of air pressure here, a real cause. If there is real cause, then brahman is finite as it is bounded to causality So the answer to first question is, question itself is a logical fallacy because of comparsion of non-causal entity to causally bounded entity(an example is something used to show one or more postulates of a theory effectively and can't be a perfect indicator)
Pranam Swamiji. Debates and arguments have produced wonderful ideas and cleared our understanding. We have had a lot of discussion and debates about various Indian and Vedic schools of philosophy. We also had debates with Buddhists. But, my question is why don't we debate with Abrahamic religions like Christianity and Islam? If we do so it will also clarify a lot of things and make our understanding better.
There has been lot of debate going on within abhrahamic faiths. We can't debate them cause references and philosophies would be different. And Abhrahamic scholors are more interested to falsify other gods and beliefs rather than talking about paths.
@@jagadishgajurel2597 None of the Abrahamic religions were built around any well validated metaphysics. Monotheism cannot be validated but vedic metaphysics can be by logic, experiment (double slit quantum experiment) and embodied experience (focus + meditation)
Nicely Explained, According to Advaita vedanta Whether Newton's Laws of physics and Theory of relatively are just appearance or facts ( Mitya or Satya)
If I were God then why is it that I am very finite? Why am I bounded up by many things like physical laws, biological laws etc? Once a person asked Stephen Hawking " Can God break these physical laws if he exists?" Stephen Hawking in reply said that "Will God make any stone which he cannot lift?" So if I am God then, why did I make something which bind me?
@@lovbet8609 See, if you look at the universe scientifically or logically you will find that it is never humansentric neither does it depend on any human it functions through well defined physical laws. So, if the universe is independent of you then how can you be God?
@@R7_102 there is no evidence of hari being shaivottama, bhagavatam says vaishnavanam yatha shambu even shiva says aaradhananam sarvesham visshnor aaradhanam param. Shiva is devotee of krishna nor vice versa, I think you gotta do some homework
@@gopalakrishna4431 Linga purana says Devata vishnave sabda Brahma mahadeva bhakthayam.. Hey gopala krishna sir if you can give your contact I can prove you Vishnu is inferior to Shiva.
Adveta of Hindu Philosophy and Shentongpa (परशूण्यवादी) - subdivision of Madhyamika which is based on the Buddha's Final Teachings, are very alike.Also Buddha has used the word 'Bramha' synonymsly with the 'Buddha'. Perhaps these two schools are meeting point between Buddhism and Hinduism. I would recommend Swami Ji to read Mahaparinirvana Sutra of Mahayana tradition which now is available also online in pdf in English translated from Chinese. And I would love to hear Swamiji teaching on "The differences Between Adveta and Shentongpa".
@@R7_102 I would beg to defer 🙏🏽. Pls don't take it as an insult but an honest confession from a fellow advaitin. The likes of Puri & Dwarka Shankaracharya are so vile & obnoxiously casteists it's sad. These people are the sole reason why Marxists & Christian missionaries are flourishing in Bharat.
Swamiji 🙏 The talk is started with a prayer ' असतो मा सद्गमय, तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय, मृत्योर्मामृतम् गमय ' In this prayer who is praying to whom and if 'self' itself is Universal self then how it is possible that the ' omnipotent omnipresent brahma ' can be covered by illusion?
I have a question : - It's often said that the dreamer, is both the 1st person experiencing the dream, as well as the objects in the dream, however, dream is a motion picture by a sleeping brain, and an analogy to dream could be a drawing in the waking state. A picture drawn by a person, doesn't become the person. A person drawing and perceiving a picture and the picture itself are two very different things, then why does a person imaging running away from a tiger in a dream is cited as the dreamer appearing as both the tiger and the 1st person experiencing the situation ?
A book called Tripura rahasya can clear all your doubts regarding sleeping,waking,dreaming & reality beyond that. selfdefinition.org/ramana/Tripura-Rahasya-The-Mystery-Beyond-the-Trinity.pdf
Namaskaram Guru 🙏🙏🙏 Swami whatever you teaches is already known to me. And I know you clearly for eons Swami, we must play a significant strong part in uniting present times Physical scientific exploration with the Truth of Consciousness and Unity of the Universe 😊
Swami, Namaskaram. The method which worked for me is finding the boundary. I realise that there's no difference between the Me and the Universe. You are the incarnation of Swami Narada. You continuously remind me of the old times 😊🙏🙏🙏
My dearest Swami, With your Grace and with the strong Grace of my dearest Guru, Shiva himself, I realised that there's no ego actually existing. Ego is non existing Swami. I realise it so clearly as my existence. Namaskaram
at 35:25 - You are absolutely wrong. Refutation of other philosophies by Dvaita followers is not the same as Abrahmic religions' refutations. In Abrahmic religions, the rightnes or wrongness is solely based on one book and their respective teachings without any logic. But dvaita refutes based on Tarka as well as scriptures and refutes other philosophies. For example, advaita and visisita-advaita says Brahman became this universe. Dvaita refutes this by saying "Brahman doesnt have vikara and since our universe goes through periods of changes, it will be like Brahman itself is undergoing those changes" - These sort of refutations are done by every philosophical schools, including advaita and can't be compared with Abrahmic concepts of refutations.
Prabhuji, I love to listen to you. A silly question - if everyone thinks that he or she is God / Narayan Himself, then will there be 6 billion plus Narayanas in this world? If I am the infinite Brahman, then why i don't possess the very powers that Narayana has? Prabhuji I always think that I am a servant of Narayana, and i would like to remain the same for infinity.
@@gitbiran2981 Dear brother, listening opens a passage to knowledge and possibilities. My question was just a question out of curiosity, not with a negative intent. Answering questions is a major task of a philosopher.
In Advaita point of view there is no separation between identities therefore every single atma is not an individual narayan but actually only one narayana omnipresent in all living and non living things. Example: when u put a salt doll(atma) in water(brahman) it loosens it identity(ahamkara) and dissolves completely in the water(brahman). Due to this ahamKara of 'I' being distinct individual person(inferior/superior) results in dukkha. The power of brahman is inside every individual but due to ahamKara u loose it, when u loose ahamKara then simultaneously u will possess all powers of brahman i.e. infinite bliss.
@@DBDalvi true question gets birth out of Unbiased state of mind. Do some rational questions. Don't do silly questions those include Brahma Bishnu Shiva as super human or god...make some sense on the questions...what people worship can be fact but may not be truth....so please do questions...but not being dumb...be rational
Once Sri Krishna Chaittanya Mahaprabhu( Krishna Himself) was asked by his one monk friend Who Am I? he replied : You may think in various way you are but inside , you are an eternal servant of Krishna ( jivero swarupa nitya krishna dasa). God don't give philosophy, he gives statement mind it ☝. And Chaittanya Mahaprabhu was God himself 🙏. He again warned Mayavadi Bhasya sunile hoite sarvanash ☝.We should not try or think to merge with God & become God, We should always try to become his servant, try to stay in his feet forever thats best place for us .Hari Bol 🙏🌸🌸🌸🚩🚩Hare Krishna 🚩🚩
This juxtaposition and commentary on the two approaches has been helpful in highlighting old ghosts of inherited "dvaita." I did get "Appearance and Reality" out of state library--the chapter headings ALL enticed me, but his language has too m any words in it that for me are not well-enough defined or understood. Alas.
Advaitha does not say Maya = Illusion and the sanskrit word "mithya" (relative understanding of the world) does not mean false either. So, the world made up of maya shakthi of shiva is absolutely real.
I feel both are right.. this is just my understanding Souls are part of God himself that makes souls same as god, God existed always and since souls cannot die can be possible if soul has quality of god , but due to ignorance souls have been seperated from god and tested on this material world to purify ignorant part. so in a way we soul are same as brahman, but not yet we are now seperate, We have lost qualities of god and until we purify the soul (god is the purest soul and greatest soul - paramatma) through various ways and then reach god to become god again after cycles of birth and death. So i feel Advaita is saying you are ignorant directly to become god and Dwaita is saying through waht means you can remove this ignorancethrough means like bhakti so you can become god(part of him) again.
Namasthe Swamiji , I've read there are actually 3 levels of truth according to Advaitha philosophy : the prathibhasika(subjective experience), the vyavaharika(empirical experience) and the paramarthika(ultimate spiritual experience. But you mentioned just the 2 : vyavaharika and the paramarthika could you kindly clarify pl
*भक्ति-योग* BG-14 closes with a note on भक्ति-योग. Sri.Krishna says, मां च योऽव्यभिचारेण *भक्ति-योगेन* सेवते / स गुणान् समतीत्यैतान् ब्रह्मभूयाय कल्पते //१४.२६// “He who serves Me alone, with constant devotion, crosses beyond the fetters of गुण, becomes fit for release”. BG-15 starts ऊर्ध्वमूलं अधःशाखम् … which are words of Sri.Krishna entirely and it is being spoken without अर्जुन asking questions. Here comes a rude surprise, Sri.Shankara asks, how devotion alone can fetch release?. Devotion should lead to knowledge of the impersonal ब्रह्मन् (ज्ञान-प्राप्ति) and such a knowledge alone can lead to मोक्ष. Sri.Shankara wants devotion less in status to that of knowledge. His words in this respect are a rude shock. Please read them here, यस्मात् मदधीनं कर्मिणां कर्म-फलं, ज्ञानिनां च ज्ञान-फलं अतः *भक्ति-योगेन* मां ये सेवन्ते ते मम प्रसादात् *ज्ञान-प्राप्ति-क्रमेण* गुणातीताः मोक्षं गच्छन्ति / किमु वक्तव्यं आत्मनः तत्त्वमेव सम्यक विजानन्तः? इति / अतः भगवान् अर्जुनेन अपृष्टोऽपि आत्मनः तत्त्वं विवक्षुः उवाच *ऊर्ध्वमूलम्* इत्यादिना … “The consequential results or fruits of actions are under My control and I bestow it upon those who perform it, likewise, the consequential results or fruits of knowledge are under my control and I bestow it upon those who acquire knowledge, those who are devout themselves unto me through the yoga of devotion attain release through my grace after transcending the fetters of गुण. *Where is the need then to speak of those who have acquired the knowledge of the (Impersonal) Self?* It is therefore, Sri.Krishna commences with the words ऊर्ध्वमूलम् to set about the truth of Impersonal Self, despite अर्जुन not asking questions here”, Please read in between the lines here. Bhakti is made to look lower than Knowledge - *भक्ति-योगेन* मां ये सेवन्ते ते मम प्रसादात् *ज्ञान-प्राप्ति-क्रमेण* गुणातीताः मोक्षं गच्छन्ति / किमु वक्तव्यं आत्मनः तत्त्वमेव सम्यक विजानन्तः? - this position is in total variance with BG-14.26. ज्ञान is like sugar dissolved in bowl of water. Every sip of water taken from any corner of the bowl tastes sweet. The same sugar syrup when boiled becomes sticky and viscous. This viscosity is भक्ति. Now, compare and contrast the immortal words of our *आचार्य-पूज्य-पाद*, माहात्म्य-ज्ञान-पूर्वस्तु सुदृढः सर्वतोऽधिकः / *स्नेहो भक्तिरिति प्रोक्तः* तथा मुक्तिः, न चान्यथा // *Our आचार्य-पूज्य-पाद uses the apt word स्नेह which in Sanskrit means viscous*. इति शम् Thank you & best regards, Raghavendra Bheemasena Rao.
Two things 1 if shree krishna is the cause of everything then the evil and the victim both are god so why punish us everything is getting controlled then why saving a person who is dying let him die it's krishna doing or the ultimate being doing secondly if knowledge is everything then why did he defined so called idiotic varna by birth at birth everyone is abodh
@@ex009adityarajsingh2 nonsense idiot, varna is not by birth rather also by merits and in herent nature of individuals... Which Lord krishna, the supreme cause clarified in gita.... By guna and karma.... The varna
Raghavendra MBR - There is no blind devotion or Bakthi in hindu/vedic tradition. We have just shraddha (trust but verify with knowledge and experience). The word Shraddha was replaced by Bakthi in Baghavad Gita. Thanks to colonizers. They wanted to create blind bakthi movements to mimic Abrahamic religions. Colonizers thought It would be easy to control people through organized bakthi movements just like Church. So, they also created fake back dated non existent figures like Madhavacharya, Ramanuja and went to any extend to prove it. Their fake interpretations of the original Advaitha and Dvaitha metaphysics caused serious confusion among hindus which led to the thinking that Advaitha and Dvaitha are competing metaphysics Original Dvaitha does not say athman is not equal to brahman and Advaitha does not say that Maya is the illusion through which Brahman falsely appears as the universe either. Maya is the creative shakthi of Shiva and it is absolutely real. So, our world/universe is also real. Advaitha just says that the illusion (false identification with thoughts and body) is caused by Maya. Point is Advaitha (non dual shiva) and Dvaitha (dual shakthi but only in combination with non dual shiva) are incomplete without each other.
Madhvacarya's philosophy is a perfect science. It is indeed a diamond. Many cannot understand it. But literally speaking, Dwaita alone is the ultimate which took on different forms later as Acintya Bheda Abheda. We are indeed indebted to Madhvacarya, Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Baladeva Vidyabhushana etc Vaisnava Acaryas.
@@vishalkhod6280 Yes, if Maya captures Brahman and it becomes Ishwara and Jeeva, then Maya must be stronger than Brahman since it has the power to expropiate Brahman.And also, Brahman is both Consciousness and Truth and simultaneously it is in ignorance so it becomes jeeva or ishvara, then how did the Same Unified Brahman be free from Maya and in Maya just like there could he no space of Light and Darkness simultaneously, that's why Advaita is completely flawed only Dvaitam is correct. Hari Sarvotamma , Vayu Jeevotamma.
There is correction needed. Dwaita siddantha is originally called Tatvavada doesn't influence just Bhakthi, but Bhakthi that comes out of Knowledge. Bhakthi without Knowledge is discouraged in Tatvavada.
Madhvacharya just didn't say because of grammar ,look at the examples given in Upanishad to explain about tatvamasi . If you are explaining something with examples means this is like these examples. Why are not quoting those examples ? All those examples quoting clearly duality.
swamiji two question please: 1. "If adishankara was a supporter of advaita Vedanta, then why does he build so many temples and compose so many slokes associate with god and goddesses " 2. "brahman satyam, jagat mitha " is true, and "Sarvam Khaluidam Brahman." is also true, then how the jagat is mitha, is brahman something in objects, or it is the object itself. 🙏🙏
@@subhrodiprakshit8923 -- I am sorry if I offended you. I actually read something about Buddha; very interesting teacher (I learned he could hide cookies under his belly). - Your name is funny! Rak is a company that makes toilettes (www.rak.com), and then the last part of your name is s h i t... Rak-shit... Isn't that something?
murali mohan - Shiva (athman = brahman) cannot produce shakhti (intelligent energy which makes up from subtle thoughts to gross macrocosm) and nothing can produce Shiva either. But shakthi can change from one form to another in combination with shiva which is omnipresent (immanent and transcendent).
Swamiji is not refuting Dvaita school of thought but his understanding of Dvaita philosophy which is, as far as I am concerned, not the accurate undestanding. And he is self contradictory in many places. At one point, he says Dvaita position comes with a lot of logical arguments, madhwacharya says knowledge leads to more Bhakti in Dvaita vedanta and then goes on to say that Dvaita school is faith driven. I'm not here to prove that Dvaita school is the right school, that's a separate discussion and that can carry any meaning only when the speakers invloved in the discussion have the right undestanding of each other's position. Intervening here coz the viewers should not think what he is saying is the right representation of Dvaita philosophy.
Advaita should be a study subject in school or university . Just one Step by Step philosophy like Maths like numbers , Additions, Multiplications , Geometry , Trigonometry , Graphs , Statistics , Probability , Derivatives, Integrations , Sets , .... ;
Swamiji , madhva followers were not identifying us as body ,manas or anything. We are not Brahman in us means jeevatma and that paramatma are different. Madhvacharya never said we should believe blindly. For his every quote he put Veda mantra as reference. According to believe in God in the sense believe as per the Vedas quoted him. Adhvaitis quoting only 5 mahavakyas which seems to say oneness but ignore all those 95% of duality quoted. This is not right. Ignoring duality quotation means it's clear ignorance of Adhvaitis.
Athma and Brahman are NOT different. If you perceive like that then you either have ego or no understanding of Sankhya vedic metaphysics (which combines Advaitha and Dvaitha). You also step into the territory of monotheism following blind faith Abrahamic religions which also say athma or soul and transcendent divine are different. Why athman = brahman? without the immanent Athma or divine nothing exists or nothing can be perceive in its current form or no duality cycles can happen like birth/death and without shakthi which makes up our thoughts and body, shiva (athman/brahman) is shava (corpse). So, advaitha (non dual shiva) and Dvaitha (dual shakhti) cannot exist without each other. Shiva and Shakthi always exist together for the perpetual duality cycles to happen. This is Sankhya vedic metaphysics.
With all due respect One thing you could have touched on while talking about Dvaita is its stress on Anubhava or experience which is key to Gnyaana. While Advaita seems to have a gap in this. What is the way to acquire gnyaana while one is suffering in samsaara according to advita? Since the world is mithya, the anubhava one gets from it should also be mithya. So there is no means of getting gnyaana. The only way is to negate all experiences in this samsaara and take that as the essence of knowledge but how do we know something is mithya? So when one is hurt, one should say 'this experience is only an illusion', when one sins then too one shall say it is an illusion. So the origin of karma itself is negated. Because karma is cause and effect, both are negated as the cause and the effect are both mithya. Yes, with Guru's grace one can acquire knowledge but since there is no reference, how do we know that the guru's knowledge is even real and full? For one to feel that "sarvam khalvidam bramha", this 'feeling' has to have an aspect of experience. But again, this experience itself is questionable if it is anywhere closely related to experiences in samsara. When we talk about in absolutes, the absolute also has to have a reference else they will be absolutes only to their own extent. When we say the flooding river is like an ocean, it is the momentary experience of its vastness that makes us say that but after the initial euphoria, the experience (knowledge) with a real ocean makes us correct our momentary inference that this is still a river and not an ocean. Our knowledge of the ocean brings forth several other attributes like "the ocean has salt water", the ocean is 100s of sq km in area" and hence this is not an ocean but still a river, but just a big river. Like a vessel filled with water is full but its only full to its capacity unless a reference is added.
“The reality is beyond Dvaita and Advaitha!!” What a profound statement. Only unbiased mature monk like you can speak so🙏🏻🙏🏻
O don't thnk there is sth beyond Adwaita
Actually, those who claim to be non dual are dual and those who claim to be dual are non dual. Claiming that brahaman alone is real and world is appearance what else is it other than duality and claiming Narayana alone is real so much so that the devotee forgets about the world and even himself, all forms and names are of Narayana alone what else is it other than non duality.
He is a true teacher. Simplifies most complicated issues. He has truly revolutionised spiritual studies My deepest regards to him.
In this Pandemic I came close to the philosophy of life . Now if I find a little free time I quietly hear Swami Sarvapriyananda's classes. Such a simple way of explanation to the core of Hindu philosophy .Thank you Maharaj .
Have heard about the cheating tailor who made the king naked n the child laughing at the king ? Dont fall for things which doesnt use " COMMONSENSE ".
@@knn9335 who seek the common sense..the brain? If that who gives order to brain like each word come out of our mouth..who ?
@@rishabhthakur8773 the commonsense comes from the body through the atma .
@@knn9335 so it originate from body and flow through aatma.
@@rishabhthakur8773 No , it originates atma and comes via body
Swami Sarvapriyananda's way of making things simple is just so priceless..
This discussion actually helped me chronologically creating a flowchart of journey of vedanta from Vedas & Upanishads to diff schools of bhashyas 💐💐
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VERY SIMPLE & LUCID LANGUAGE LECTURE.TREMENDOUS AUTHORITY ON SUBJECT MATTER.DEALT DIRECTLY WITHOUT CREATING ANY DOUBTS.
SEEKING BLESSINGS FROM SWAMIJI.
JAI RAMAKRISHNA.
If I may make one suggestion to beginners who are prepared to delve: Go with what resonates with you. Whatever you begin with, Bhagavad Gita, Brahma Sutras, Upanishads, etc., if it isn't resonating, do not pound your head against the wall trying to understand. Move to another source. Find something that resonates. And delve.
If one Upanishad bores you or is over your head, try another. Some are very different from each other.
If all of it is beyond your understanding and interest, then begin with a more popular book on the subject. Watch a video on youtube. There are many Advaitans who give talks. Buddhist talks can also help. Especially Dzogchen.
Jiddu Krishnamurti doesn't publicly espouse Advaita, but deep down, he is.
I have read lots. I use this one rule, and it has always served me well. *Go with what resonates.*
This is once of the best talks I’ve heard to date. There was so much confusion over the two that has been lifted. Thank you!
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Fantastic! How beautiful is Hinduism gives you freedom to interpret and understand everything in it. True democracy and freedom.
Spot on !!
I know but the contradictions leave me confused?
@turtle research That illustrates a bigger concern which is what if they are both wrong? It's the fundamental nature of reality being consciousness and we are each a part of that reality that I'm trying to make sense of. I get the concept but is it true is what I'm trying to get at. Some of the explanations of the 3 types of conscious/awareness experience (waking, dreaming, unconscious) are confusing to me as well as a few other things. I'm listening to the lectures anyways.
@@joelrivardguitar if you think they are wrong then you are free to discover your own path. There are other schools as well like Visistaadvait or qualified non dualism and dvait advait. In my opinion, it is impossible to know exactly the ultimate reality to the fullest but can approach it by any of the paths. All will lead us to the same destination
@@shuvamchatterjee8611 "if you think they are wrong then you are free to discover your own path."
I didn't say they are wrong. I'm saying I'm taking a critical and rational look at the concepts and trying to see how they could be true? Our consciousness is part of a larger consciousness, Brahman. I believe it is solely from brain function. So I'm trying to find some evidence to latch on to. I cannot just believe something that doesn't provide evidence? We are all Brahman, ok, there must be ways to test or demonstrate this? Why do different branches of Hinduism disagree? Is it all just what people choose to believe is true? That would be no better than any religion? Is there a point where you can see how this is true or does a point come where you just go "ok I now believe this"?
It's an essential talk to be watch by those who want to criticize other schools of thought , it is greatest of great talks, Swamiji great, great thanks
Glad to hear and grateful to my masters that I now understand " Achintya bhedabhed siddhanta". Beautifully harmonising both schools. Amazing!
I cried Profusely -- We are really knowing Nothing about greatness of Upanishad -- This is simply great .. Such a profound knowledge distilled in one hour discussion -- PRANAM SWAMIJI
I cannot express how GRATEFUL I am to be able to receive such knowledge. These videos are EXTREMELY useful and changed my life. Thank you very much.
Swamiji is a superb teacher armed with an infinite patience and an immense culture .
What an outstanding discourse! Thank you Swamiji and the organisers of this event 🙏🏼🙌🏼
Pranam Everyone 🙏, I just overwhelmed by the depth insights of today's Swamiji's teaching, wonderful Swamiji . You are very generous to every philosophy and here it is one of the proof of a enlightened person , never get identified of particular philosophy , though Swamiji belongs directly to Advaita philosophy but he openly admits of other philosophy's contribution in his spiritual journey that is something special character of Swami Sarvapriyananda ji from other Advaitan Philosopher . Lots of love and respect for Swami ji . I see my GURU material in Swamiji only . I wish someday I will take your blessing and become your discipal. I bow down to you Swamiji . Thanks everyone 🙏❤️😊
Advaitha (non dual shiva) and Dvaitha (dual shakthi) are incomplete without each other. Sanskhya vedic metaphysics combines Advaitha and Dvaitha.
Swami sarvapriyananda is true icon of religious harmony these days. He conveyed DaVita philosophy even better than Amogh Lila Prabhu ji. And catholic Pope is just mouth piece of religious harmony but true heart is Swami sarvapriyananda. I may sound little bit of cheap mentality in this comment but someone needs to be loud n clear in this politically influenced world. Most importantly, I'm not enlightened enough to remain neutral in all scenarios.
Are there any superstition in Hinduism like astrology, black cat crossing in ved or it is added later on
Also tell me about modern day superstition like spreading by new katha vachaks and pandits iss din yeh karlo , yaha chalejao , yeh khalo toh tumara kam hojayega like ias ban jayoge , amir hojayoge ?
@@pauldirc.. superstition does not mean fake,it is a belief,everything in hinduism is based on science andmmost of these stories have science behind it like the story of rahu ketu,but since the invasions,parents started telling their kids the stories but slowly generation after generation,they stopped explaining the science behind it and today we do many practices without knowing the meaning behind it,those are called superstitions,but it doesn't mean they're wrong,we just haven't learnt the meaning behind it,....
but yes,today some fake gurus create their own superstitions which i agree are dumb
@@dvine3488 but our parents with anything if you tell them it's from Hinduism
Like doing some puja will get you government job
@@pauldirc..Doing one Pooja will not give you gov job but doing daily Pooja will increase your capacity to sit at one place and concentrate which may help you in the studies for these gov jobs.
Such erudition!! Such wisdom!! Such poise!!! Not a single jarring note even while discussing competing philosophies. My humble Pranaams to Swamiji and the Ramakrishna tradition.
Wow. What a detailed explanation of Vedanta philosophy ! Thank you Swamiji. Pranam.
Some pointers here, just trying to keep things honest and accurate.
- First of all, Dvaita is not used in the term of “Duality” vs. “Non-duality”. The real name for Madhvacharya’s school is “Tattvavada”. It is a monotheistic pluralistic realistic school that fundamentally classifies the ontological nature of reality into just two categories: Svatantra and Asvatantra - “Self-dependent” and “Dependent”. The Swamiji did mention this. The supremacy (most vividly understood through his Self-dependence, and infinitely complete nature) Sri Hari, or Vishnu, or Narayana is the primary import of all Vedas “वेदैश्च सर्वैरहमेव वेद्य: || BG 15-15”
- One popular advaitic notion that needs to be removed is everything else other than Advaita is Dvaita. That is wrong. Everything other than Dvaita is Advaita. To quote Prof. Surendranath Dasgupta - “The only school of Vedanta in India that holds an uncompromising Dualistic view is Madhwa’s Dvaita - everyone else compromised with Advaita in one form or another…”. This will be very clear with serious study of Madhwacharya’s philosophy.
- Definition of Vedanta differs in the two schools:
o Advaita - Only Upanishads
o Dvaita - Upanishads, but more importantly Brahma Sutras are the real “Vedanta” since without Badarayana’s aphorisms interpretations on Veda are not possible.
- There was a cheeky comparison of Madhwas to Evangelical Christians. This, by the way is not a new view - ignorant people have been making it over the centuries. Giving the benefit of doubt to the swamiji, I can say a superficial view of the Madhwa attitude towards advaita could seem that way. However, the basis behind refuting wrong knowledge or viparita jnana is actually clearly mentioned in the Ishavasya Upanishad (shloka 9). It is our firm belief as vVaidikas that we should live up to that ideal:
“Those who worship Vishnu with false understanding enter dense, unrelenting darkness; a greater darkness than that go they, who are merely devoted to the correct understanding (but do not care to criticize incorrect understanding). We may say, therefore, that “a great responsibility rests with him who knows; he is bound to teach others, [else] his lot is even worse than those of the ignorant.” [SCV11] Not only is it the case that one must condemn false knowledge in order to avoid the greater suffering that would ensue if one did not, but one must also do so because the two things, correct understanding and condemnation of incorrect understanding, each have their own separate result that one should seek.”
- Dvaita does not randomly classify the Veda into Tattvavedika and atattvavedika. All the vedas, all the sacred scriptures are primarily conveying the majesty of God, and the way out of Samsara is to lose ahamkara and mamakara and understand that God is the real doer, not the self. The self is only an instrument, like an axe that cuts the ashwattha tree. So there are no differences between the Samhita and the Brahmana and the Aranyaka and the Upanishad, or the Ramayana, or the Mahabharata, or the Puranas. A deep study of Brahma Sutra and all other texts are required for this, a cursory glimpse or bedtime reading will not do. This is the meaning of the sutra - “Om Tattu Samanvayat Om”
- One thing that Advaitins forget, is that the traditional view holds that the Vedas are infinite - “AnantA vai vedAH”. Badarayana, or Srimad Veda Vyasa compressed the entire infinite Veda into 564 sutras for analysis. One should reflect - is this possible by a “mere rishi”?
- There we 19 Brahma Sutra bhashyas before Shankaracharya. So he was not, according to popular belief the first. He was the 20th Bhasyakara, and Madhwacharya was the 22nd.
- Madhvacharya’s brahma sutra bhashya - there are 4 - not 1. And nobody calls it “Purna Prajna Bhashya”. Here are the real names:
o Brahma Sutra Bhashya
o Anubhasya
o Nyaya Vivarana
o Anuvyakhyana
- Jnana vs. Bhakti - unfortunately, the swamiji has is not totally accurate here. Jnana is the highest goal of any human - न हि ज्ञानेन सदृशं पवित्रमिह विद्यते । तत्स्वयं योगसंसिद्धः कालेनात्मनि विन्दति ॥ BG 4-38 Bhakti is culmination of the right Jnana, of the supremacy of God and His infinitely completely spot free and pure nature and the upakara without prayojana that he does for infinite Jivas for infinite time, out of His own purnAnanda svaroopa. In advaita, Bhakti has zero meaning. Bhakti towards what? What is the object of Bhakti? You are Brahman, so who are you showing devotion to? Devotion can only arise, by definition, to an entity that is many folds superior to you. As Hanuman said - "Dasoham Kosalendrasya" because Rama is swayam Bhagavan. One more perspective to think about: Jnana is the ultimate goal of Vedanta (all Vedanta - not just Advaita, that's another monumental misconception) "Nahi Jnanena Sadrisham". Karma, Bhakti, Vairagya all spring out of True Jnana. Without true Jnana, what meaning is there to Bhakti? (It becomes superstitious emotional sentimentalism) and Karma becomes empty rituals without any higher motive guiding it. Seeing one as different from the other does not make any sense. Jnana is the Gangotri. Thinking that Bhakti is different from Jnana is the same as not understanding what Bhakti is at all. Bhakti is the CULMINATION of Jnana - Atma Samarpana, and can only come from very mature souls.
- Ultimately, we should at least appreciate the honesty of the Ramakrishna order. The swamiji quite openly admitted that “we accept the statements from the Gita, with a footnote that they are all false”. I think what he meant by that is, if they say something that purportedly has a “Bheda bhava”, hethey will consider that vyavaharika, or anirvachaniya or sadasadvilakshana - for which there is zero proof in the vedas and plenty of proof in Buddhism, and has been througroughly refuted logically too. So Advaita quite simply becomes Buddhism cloaked in Upanishadic language. This is not an attack or an insinuation - it is quite literally the truth, whether you want to believe it or not.
- Another very basic mistake - belief in God in Dvaita is not blind faith. First of all Bhakti is not faith - it is love (sneha). The swamiji read out Madhwacharya’s definition of Bhakti, then forgot about it and contradicted himself later. Bhakti comes from knowledge of God and His supremacy. It comes from faith in SCRIPTURE, which talks about God. This scripture itself is Apaurusheya which is inherently flawless, therefore it is the only authority on God. That’s a huge topic in itself - but basically the swamiji oversimplified to a caricature.
- Last point: The job of reconciliation between different world views is that of a politician. Not that of a seeker of truth. This is why no Madhwa has ever seeked to reconcile with advaita. This is the truth the way we see it - and no amount of linguistic trickery can shake the nishtha in truth.
To all serious students of Indian Philosophy - please LEARN SANKSRIT. Stop relying on English translations. Read all bhashyas with an open view. Come to your own conclusions. There are many traditional scholars who can guide you along your path. Please seek their help. Believing that you are Brahman is blind faith of infinite proportions.
For someone really interested in Dvaita, please check this video out, it may give a more accurate painting of Vedic scripture as a whole.
th-cam.com/video/Q9x2BYDX7DU/w-d-xo.html
Uttishtha! Jagrta!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 another mystical talks and no proofs
God is beyond still the scriptures are from God 🤣🤣🤣
Idiotic things which says the true cause lives inside everything but still caste exists and also not only caste brutal conducts also exists
Most of the knowledge in their books were taken from buddhist text which saw humans as humans not on the basis of caste and apaurusheya 🤣🤣🤣 idiotic texts with no proof and of course they have written it in favour of a caste brahman 🤣🤣🤣
@@ex009adityarajsingh2 It's not even worth replying to this individual, but this will for the sake of other sensible people here. Veda is apourusheya. God is the highest Purusha. Put the two together, what you get is that Veda is not "from God". they are anadi and nitya.
Excellent presentation by Swamy Sarvapriyanada and the questions were also excellent. I learned a lot from this one video.
Swami is my relief in this stressful life, such a calming personality. Clear wisdom represents what's possible on the Advaita path.
It's a wonderful sessions Swamiji. Thank you very much
Swami Sarvapriyananda jee. I bow to you with gratitude for imparting knowledge to me.
हरी: ऊॅं तत्सत् 🙏🏻
श्रीरामकृष्णार्पणमस्तु 🙏🏻
Namaskar Swami Sarvapriyanandaji 🙏🏻
Lot of ignorance have been removed by your simple smiling talks on various complicated verses....really great🌹🌹🌹🌹
Great illuminating talk as always by Swamiji (the main host however came off as ill-prepared with neither displaying understanding of the broader context about the subject matter nor displaying skills of providing lucid introduction at the start...The way he was reading questions at the end left a lot to be desired ... Hopefully he is replaced in the next such session....)...Looking forward to hearing the next session
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One may remain confused even after listening to this wonderful analysis of swamiji.' Ramakrishna Kathamrita 'can dispel all confusions, I firmly believe.
10000 % true brother
No confusion. Advaitha (non dual shiva) and Dvaitha (dual shakthi) are INCOMPLETE without each other. In other words, without the immanent shiva or athma nothing exists or nothing can be perceived in its current form and without shakhti, shiva is shava (corpse). So, shiva and Shakthi always exist together for the perpetual duality cycles to happen. This is SANKHYA VEDIC metaphysics which combines ADVAITHA AND DVAITHA.
Thank you Swamiji. I really do appreciate this one!!!
Great conversation. Thank you. Very clarifying. Jai Sri Ramakrishna! Thank you all. 💗
Advaita Vedanta is quite radical. But it gives instantaneous realisation, like a spark right now. If a little contemplation done on drig drishya viveka with correct understanding. It certainly, makes one realise about his true Brahman nature. It's a very powerful technique. The beauty of Advaita Vedenta is that, even after a speck of realisation that "I am Brahman", it increases our love bhakti for Personal god, even more. When An aspirant realises that essence wise he and god is not different, how realistic would be his devotion to god. After Advaidic realisation, the dualistic practice becomes as realistic as practicing only dualism. Ohm Tat sat
U just said that after realizing "we are the essence of god" simply specifies the principles of Dvaita Vedanata. Because your just an essence of God. Not God. You are still separate and not 100%.
@@keshavsikdar9284 Not separate.Part of the same consciousness.
@@sibobratabanerjee1163 Correct.
@@keshavsikdar9284 Original Dvaitha vedanta does not say that. Only fake interpretations of Dvaitha vedanta (like in the case of Madhavacharya who did not exist) say that. Advaitha (non dual shiva) and Dvaitha (dual shakthi) are INCOMPLETE without each other. It is the reason why people say without shiva nothing exists and without shakthi, shiva is shava (corspe). Point is Shiva and Shakthi always exist together for the perpetual duality cycles to happen. This is Sankhya vedic metaphysics.
@@Dharmicaction go and read bhagwad Geeta instead of preaching ur imaginary hypothesis which itself has no basis nor have any facts to support. Loooooooool. Mayavadis like u r always deluded by maha maya herself which u so praise as adi shakti.
Dara Shikoh was the brother of Aurangzeb, Dara was interested in Adhyatma (Spirituality) from various paths including Sufi which is somehow very similar to sampradaya of Vedanta. He did the work of translating it via the translators. Interesting.
Aurangzeb mercilessly killed Darah to usurp the throne of Shahjahan! Such is the lust for power, wealth and respect for one's ego.
@@007bluesky007 Yes, that's pitiable indeed.
I love your humbleness, frankness and knowledge Swamiji 🙏🙏
Thankyou Swami, very beautiful. Please continue to advise on books.
Indeed a very enlightening session!
1:22:30 "তিনি অনন্ত, পথও অনন্ত" - I loved this line.
Beautifully explained!!
Very captivating podcast.
Kudos!
Wonderful talk and overview. Would have been nice to also have placed the Shaivasiddhanta(s) in perspective.
He talks in Kashmiri Shaivism and another interview with Professor Sthaneswar Timalsina(about kashmiri shaivism)
I don't know but from where i am totally devoted to Swami ji.
I read his thoughts and the more I read the little i know.
Always pleased to hear Swami Sarvapriyanand 🙏
Excellent,perfect clarity- Hanumanjis words are the ultimate! I 🙏
Wow.
Swamiji is describing all these soooo easily, 🙏
Srimad Ananda Thirtha Bhagwat Padacharya 🙇🙇Sriman Vayu Devaru incarnates three times in this bhuloka as Hanuma in Treta Bhimasena in Dwapara Madwa in Kali 🙇🙇The Lord of Life incarnates for showing manava the correct interpretation of the Vedas, Upanishads, Geetha 🙏Hari Sarvothama Vayu Jeevothama 🙇🙇
HARI SARVOTTAMA VAYU JEEVOTTAMA 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
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This is very open and free minded discussion lecture and eye opening also. Great swamiji pranam to you.
Also I appreciate questioners for asking very interesting and relevent
Pranam Swamiji
🙏🙏 Thank you for this enlightening talk.
It's very disturbing to see many of the comments. We may or may not agree with some philosophy but we should have respect for the monks and Acharyas.
Half baked knowledge is worse than ignorance. India has been a land of truth' seekers. We should first have an open mind to listen to different points of view.
Defending a doctrine is not our culture.
Swamiji you are saying so straight way, so direct that I think this was only needed for me to establish in what l am - l am Brahman. Swamiji l have gone through your many lectures and I have no words to describe my satisfaction that how much l mean by this 🙏 lam really greatful thankful to you & my pranam in your louts feet swamijiyou have given me the most incredible in search of truth - lfeel as if l was waiting for your this diret word's only. Thank you again & again.
Swamiji pranam..heard you the realisation gives you fearless ness freedom..and bliss...but a thirst to know and see Brahman increases...
RUTA BHATT Even though you (athma) are temporarily at your office, you must perform your dharmic duty. So, no escapism from worldly matters in the name of omnipresent Brahman. Arjuna tried to play the card of everything is athman/brahman too but Krishna said Karma yoga is better than Jnana yoga in his context. So, it was Arjuna's dharmic duty to finish off his adharmic relatives.
Thank you for this beautiful talk Swamiji🌿🙏
A crude note on hermeneutics:
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In the history of biblical interpretation, four major types of hermeneutics have emerged: the literal, moral, allegorical, and anagogical.
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However, the Hindu way differ in its form and quality as we have shadlingas to interpret the Vedic mantras and shastras on one hand, the whole nirukta, chhanda, vyakarana, etc. as the tool to interprete tham. To add, our way of exploring the meaning and import in the light of adhyamik, adhibhautik and adhidaivik perspective should be based and extended to six dimensions of interpreting the vedic mantras as per one swami of arya samaji acharya nashthik agnivrata....
Wish all our saints of this time were like him. What a beautiful explanation
A most enlightening discourse .
Spiritual representatives should learn from this guru on how to be respectful while being truthful about something. Iskcon leaders have been openly spewing hate to Advaitis, and to every others who don't align within their line. Truly he is an advaitin, because Advaita is just this, to be conscious of the reality. Whether the reality is against you, with you or with your oppositions, you must always seek truth. Thanks my Guru for shedding light 🙏
I don't find anything more satisfying to the intellect other than Advaita.
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Absolutely 👍
th-cam.com/video/DtCEGhIEjsI/w-d-xo.html maybe you should hear this
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Q: Whose intellect is satisfied?
A: “My intellect” is satisfied
T: you admitted now that “intellect” is just your possession. That is not your true identity. Don’t stop until you find yourself. Intellect feels happy when it hears high philosophy. But why do you care to feed the intellect more and more? Be still and know your true Self.
So beautifully explained thank you guru Ji . you are truly a gem for us .
Thank you so much Swamiji Maharaj 🙏. But whether it is Advaita or anything else , you have to experience it. Otherwise the purpose is not realised!🙏
Tat avam asi - you are "already" that. Athma is the conscious observer and experiencer of individual 5 senses.. But athman is not the doer. Without the immanent athma nothing can exist or nothing can be perceived in its current form. So, athman = brahman. Expansion of individual consciousness to cosmic consciousness is samadhi or moksha when microcosm becomes macrocosm.
HARI SARVOTTAMA VAYU JEEVOTTAMA 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Wonderful talk by Swamiji. What is surprising to s that these other people are not showing even 1% of the grace as swamiji. They are referring to the monastic order using words like “you guys”! This is why dvaita is important, it allows one to use positive emotions and attitudes to better understand Advaitha - love, humility, respect, correct words and correct behaviour. Usually millennials are blamed for not having respect, looks like problem is there with elderly people too. Indian culture always stresses respect to guru & elders, without even these in place how are they ever going to learn anything at all? 😩
I experienced that -- Humility is missing with all the organizer -- I suppose they have funded this program and that arrogance could be seen . SWAMIJI above all these - Does not affect in any form ..
thank you. great subject and talk.
Swami Sarvapriyananda's advaita teachings are ultimate and very inspirative. They teaches us the Truth.
When one says " Tree is Green" Tree is not exactly the same as Green- Green color is possessed by Green. The universe is Brahman means the Universe is possessed by Brahman. Whatever he says it contradicts our experience.
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but when you say wave is water,it is ok right? there is no real difference between both of them.
Here, you can't say universe is a characteristics of brahman, because if there is really something other than brahman, then how can it be infinte?
@@abpt7647 wave is a quality of water. When air pressure acts with water . That water changes into waves. You may not see the air pressure with your eyes does it mean only water is there? I request you to analyze it completely. Please don't be carried away by half-truth. Water cannot change to wave unless there is another entity that is completely non-water. Then how do you say that water is wave only? waves are qualified with water and air. If waves are the same as the ocean we will not see it distinctly on the beach. Waves are distinct but inseparable from the ocean. LIkewise we have other living beings, fish and ocean beings all are distinct from the water but inseparable from the ocean. This is the reality of life. Waves and fishes are something different from Ocean but as on today they are never seperable from ocean. Thus all in one. This is oneness.
Brahman is infinite. He is qualified by the Universe and living beings who are distinct to each other but never inseparable from brahman. Universe changes which is natural. Living beings born and die. All these happens even today as inseparable act of Brahman.
From Sankaracharya time till today- the universe still exists. If he has discovered Universe is illusion and he is Brahman and there is only one Brahman which is Sankaracharya. Why the Universe exisit for you and I even today? So illusion still prevails even though many has realised the " they are exactly Brahman and Universe does not exisit"
Universe cannot be called brahman. Both are totally defined different by Sankaracharya. Sankaracharya says remove the universe which is illusion what remains is Brahman. Sorry till today Brahman is infinite, living beings are inifinte and Universe is also infinite.
Then where is oneness?
Oneness is achiived as Brahamn qualified with Living beings and Universe, Brahman'sinfinite body as living beings and universe, Brahman's mode as Living biengs and universe, Brahman's infinite power or part as living beings and universe.
@@abpt7647 There is no reality like the universe and living beings independent and separate from brahman.
@@regardsk3815 before answering, i am asking you to explain the manifestation of universe from dwaitha point of view. That is,how this all happen, how universe emerge from perspective of brahman.i am asking it to know your view and also as a introduction of my answering
Here in our example, water exist in a phenomenal world. So there must be cause for it to transform into wave and that is air pressure. But adwaitha is trying to say something different that is, when we come to our situation, brahman is infinite and so is devoid of cauality(brahman is not an entity of phenomenonal world like water). We are quoting that example *only* to show the relation of universe with brahman is existantial .So, if the universe is born out of brahman, you can't ask why.Thus there is no need of air pressure here, a real cause. If there is real cause, then brahman is finite as it is bounded to causality
So the answer to first question is, question itself is a logical fallacy because of comparsion of non-causal entity to causally bounded entity(an example is something used to show one or more postulates of a theory effectively and can't be a perfect indicator)
Pranam Swamiji.
Debates and arguments have produced wonderful ideas and cleared our understanding. We have had a lot of discussion and debates about various Indian and Vedic schools of philosophy. We also had debates with Buddhists.
But, my question is why don't we debate with Abrahamic religions like Christianity and Islam? If we do so it will also clarify a lot of things and make our understanding better.
There has been lot of debate going on within abhrahamic faiths. We can't debate them cause references and philosophies would be different. And Abhrahamic scholors are more interested to falsify other gods and beliefs rather than talking about paths.
That's like trying to describe the magnificence of the Himalayas to a blind person. You can do it, but the efficacy is limited.
@@jagadishgajurel2597 None of the Abrahamic religions were built around any well validated metaphysics. Monotheism cannot be validated but vedic metaphysics can be by logic, experiment (double slit quantum experiment) and embodied experience (focus + meditation)
Nicely Explained,
According to Advaita vedanta Whether Newton's Laws of physics and Theory of relatively are just appearance or facts ( Mitya or Satya)
You can also hear his licture in Spotify
If I were God then why is it that I am very finite? Why am I bounded up by many things like physical laws, biological laws etc?
Once a person asked Stephen Hawking " Can God break these physical laws if he exists?" Stephen Hawking in reply said that "Will God make any stone which he cannot lift?"
So if I am God then, why did I make something which bind me?
If you make something and lose your memory, will you able to know how you made and operate it.
@@lovbet8609 If I make something and forget it then how can I be God?
@@chiranjibdas896 that is your definition and if you can define a God that means you are above God, so enjoy being above God.
@@chiranjibdas896 If you realize, you are God and otherwise you remains ignorant
@@lovbet8609 See, if you look at the universe scientifically or logically you will find that it is never humansentric neither does it depend on any human it functions through well defined physical laws.
So, if the universe is independent of you then how can you be God?
HARI SARVOTTAMA VAYU JEEVOTTAMA 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hari shaivotthama
Bhagwaan apka bhala kare 🙏
@@R7_102 there is no evidence of hari being shaivottama, bhagavatam says vaishnavanam yatha shambu even shiva says aaradhananam sarvesham visshnor aaradhanam param.
Shiva is devotee of krishna nor vice versa, I think you gotta do some homework
@@gopalakrishna4431 Linga purana says Devata vishnave sabda Brahma mahadeva bhakthayam..
Hey gopala krishna sir if you can give your contact I can prove you Vishnu is inferior to Shiva.
@@R7_102 its tamsik puran
Excellent beyond words. Blessed to listen to the talks.
wonderful and appreciated explanations. Believe as you feel you should.
Adveta of Hindu Philosophy and Shentongpa (परशूण्यवादी) - subdivision of Madhyamika which is based on the Buddha's Final Teachings, are very alike.Also Buddha has used the word 'Bramha' synonymsly with the 'Buddha'. Perhaps these two schools are meeting point between Buddhism and Hinduism.
I would recommend Swami Ji to read Mahaparinirvana Sutra of Mahayana tradition which now is available also online in pdf in English translated from Chinese. And I would love to hear Swamiji teaching on "The differences Between Adveta and Shentongpa".
Whatever he speaks is so from heart, he didn't deny any philosophes, so humble , great.
That is the quality of advaita Vedantins. 🙂
@@R7_102 So does Vaishnavas/Vishistaadvaidhavadis, Unless some cases of being in mission of serving their guru's words
@@R7_102 I would beg to defer 🙏🏽. Pls don't take it as an insult but an honest confession from a fellow advaitin. The likes of Puri & Dwarka Shankaracharya are so vile & obnoxiously casteists it's sad. These people are the sole reason why Marxists & Christian missionaries are flourishing in Bharat.
Swamiji 🙏
The talk is started with a prayer
' असतो मा सद्गमय, तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय, मृत्योर्मामृतम् गमय '
In this prayer who is praying to whom and if 'self' itself is Universal self then how it is possible that the ' omnipotent omnipresent brahma ' can be covered by illusion?
how do the cycles and declining Kali Yuga relate to Advaita Vedanta, which seems to be a very progressive philosophy?
Try hindu academy by Jay Lakhani. Every question answered.
I have a question : - It's often said that the dreamer, is both the 1st person experiencing the dream, as well as the objects in the dream, however, dream is a motion picture by a sleeping brain, and an analogy to dream could be a drawing in the waking state. A picture drawn by a person, doesn't become the person. A person drawing and perceiving a picture and the picture itself are two very different things, then why does a person imaging running away from a tiger in a dream is cited as the dreamer appearing as both the tiger and the 1st person experiencing the situation ?
A book called Tripura rahasya can clear all your doubts regarding sleeping,waking,dreaming & reality beyond that.
selfdefinition.org/ramana/Tripura-Rahasya-The-Mystery-Beyond-the-Trinity.pdf
Namaskaram Guru 🙏🙏🙏
Swami whatever you teaches is already known to me.
And I know you clearly for eons
Swami, we must play a significant strong part in uniting present times Physical scientific exploration with the Truth of Consciousness and Unity of the Universe
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Swami,
Namaskaram.
The method which worked for me is finding the boundary. I realise that there's no difference between the Me and the Universe.
You are the incarnation of Swami Narada.
You continuously remind me of the old times 😊🙏🙏🙏
I could never find the boundary between the Me and the outwardly extentions of Me through the Six senses, Swami
Then I very clearly realised that there's no distinction between the Me and the external Universe.
My dearest Swami,
With your Grace and with the strong Grace of my dearest Guru, Shiva himself, I realised that there's no ego actually existing. Ego is non existing Swami. I realise it so clearly as my existence. Namaskaram
@@rosappan has this helped you ?
Thank you Vivekananda Samiti IIT -Kanpur
Music to my ears... 🎼🎶🎶🎸
at 35:25 - You are absolutely wrong. Refutation of other philosophies by Dvaita followers is not the same as Abrahmic religions' refutations. In Abrahmic religions, the rightnes or wrongness is solely based on one book and their respective teachings without any logic. But dvaita refutes based on Tarka as well as scriptures and refutes other philosophies. For example, advaita and visisita-advaita says Brahman became this universe. Dvaita refutes this by saying "Brahman doesnt have vikara and since our universe goes through periods of changes, it will be like Brahman itself is undergoing those changes" - These sort of refutations are done by every philosophical schools, including advaita and can't be compared with Abrahmic concepts of refutations.
You missed the point that he immediately follows with that: th-cam.com/video/ENWCcuEyIBA/w-d-xo.html
HARI SARVOTTAMA VAYU JEEVOTTAMA 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@ytrrs yep, he's contradicting his own words
Prabhuji, I love to listen to you. A silly question - if everyone thinks that he or she is God / Narayan Himself, then will there be 6 billion plus Narayanas in this world? If I am the infinite Brahman, then why i don't possess the very powers that Narayana has? Prabhuji I always think that I am a servant of Narayana, and i would like to remain the same for infinity.
Ok then be. Why are you even listening ?
@@gitbiran2981 Dear brother, listening opens a passage to knowledge and possibilities. My question was just a question out of curiosity, not with a negative intent. Answering questions is a major task of a philosopher.
In Advaita point of view there is no separation between identities therefore every single atma is not an individual narayan but actually only one narayana omnipresent in all living and non living things.
Example: when u put a salt doll(atma) in water(brahman) it loosens it identity(ahamkara) and dissolves completely in the water(brahman).
Due to this ahamKara of 'I' being distinct individual person(inferior/superior) results in dukkha. The power of brahman is inside every individual but due to ahamKara u loose it, when u loose ahamKara then simultaneously u will possess all powers of brahman i.e. infinite bliss.
@@DBDalvi true question gets birth out of Unbiased state of mind. Do some rational questions. Don't do silly questions those include Brahma Bishnu Shiva as super human or god...make some sense on the questions...what people worship can be fact but may not be truth....so please do questions...but not being dumb...be rational
@@DBDalvi With respect brother...just a suggestion for you..
Once Sri Krishna Chaittanya Mahaprabhu( Krishna Himself) was asked by his one monk friend Who Am I? he replied : You may think in various way you are but inside , you are an eternal servant of Krishna ( jivero swarupa nitya krishna dasa). God don't give philosophy, he gives statement mind it ☝. And Chaittanya Mahaprabhu was God himself 🙏. He again warned Mayavadi Bhasya sunile hoite sarvanash ☝.We should not try or think to merge with God & become God, We should always try to become his servant, try to stay in his feet forever thats best place for us .Hari Bol 🙏🌸🌸🌸🚩🚩Hare Krishna 🚩🚩
This is a classic example of being full of himself
I am right and no one else...😂😂
This juxtaposition and commentary on the two approaches has been helpful in highlighting old ghosts of inherited "dvaita." I did get "Appearance and Reality" out of state library--the chapter headings ALL enticed me, but his language has too m any words in it that for me are not well-enough defined or understood. Alas.
Advaitha does not say Maya = Illusion and the sanskrit word "mithya" (relative understanding of the world) does not mean false either. So, the world made up of maya shakthi of shiva is absolutely real.
I feel both are right.. this is just my understanding
Souls are part of God himself that makes souls same as god, God existed always and since souls cannot die can be possible if soul has quality of god , but due to ignorance souls have been seperated from god and tested on this material world to purify ignorant part.
so in a way we soul are same as brahman, but not yet we are now seperate, We have lost qualities of god and until we purify the soul (god is the purest soul and greatest soul - paramatma) through various ways and then reach god to become god again after cycles of birth and death.
So i feel Advaita is saying you are ignorant directly to become god and
Dwaita is saying through waht means you can remove this ignorancethrough means like bhakti so you can become god(part of him) again.
Thank you so much Swamiji
Namasthe Swamiji , I've read there are actually 3 levels of truth according to Advaitha philosophy : the prathibhasika(subjective experience), the vyavaharika(empirical experience) and the paramarthika(ultimate spiritual experience. But you mentioned just the 2 : vyavaharika and the paramarthika could you kindly clarify pl
*भक्ति-योग*
BG-14 closes with a note on भक्ति-योग.
Sri.Krishna says,
मां च योऽव्यभिचारेण *भक्ति-योगेन* सेवते /
स गुणान् समतीत्यैतान् ब्रह्मभूयाय कल्पते //१४.२६//
“He who serves Me alone, with constant devotion, crosses beyond the fetters of गुण, becomes fit for release”.
BG-15 starts ऊर्ध्वमूलं अधःशाखम् … which are words of Sri.Krishna entirely and it is being spoken without अर्जुन asking questions.
Here comes a rude surprise,
Sri.Shankara asks, how devotion alone can fetch release?. Devotion should lead to knowledge of the impersonal ब्रह्मन् (ज्ञान-प्राप्ति) and such a knowledge alone can lead to मोक्ष. Sri.Shankara wants devotion less in status to that of knowledge. His words in this respect are a rude shock. Please read them here,
यस्मात् मदधीनं कर्मिणां कर्म-फलं, ज्ञानिनां च ज्ञान-फलं अतः *भक्ति-योगेन* मां ये सेवन्ते ते मम प्रसादात् *ज्ञान-प्राप्ति-क्रमेण* गुणातीताः मोक्षं गच्छन्ति / किमु वक्तव्यं आत्मनः तत्त्वमेव सम्यक विजानन्तः? इति / अतः भगवान् अर्जुनेन अपृष्टोऽपि आत्मनः तत्त्वं विवक्षुः उवाच *ऊर्ध्वमूलम्* इत्यादिना …
“The consequential results or fruits of actions are under My control and I bestow it upon those who perform it, likewise, the consequential results or fruits of knowledge are under my control and I bestow it upon those who acquire knowledge, those who are devout themselves unto me through the yoga of devotion attain release through my grace after transcending the fetters of गुण. *Where is the need then to speak of those who have acquired the knowledge of the (Impersonal) Self?* It is therefore, Sri.Krishna commences with the words ऊर्ध्वमूलम् to set about the truth of Impersonal Self, despite अर्जुन not asking questions here”,
Please read in between the lines here. Bhakti is made to look lower than Knowledge - *भक्ति-योगेन* मां ये सेवन्ते ते मम प्रसादात् *ज्ञान-प्राप्ति-क्रमेण* गुणातीताः मोक्षं गच्छन्ति / किमु वक्तव्यं आत्मनः तत्त्वमेव सम्यक विजानन्तः? - this position is in total variance with BG-14.26.
ज्ञान is like sugar dissolved in bowl of water. Every sip of water taken from any corner of the bowl tastes sweet. The same sugar syrup when boiled becomes sticky and viscous. This viscosity is भक्ति.
Now, compare and contrast the immortal words of our *आचार्य-पूज्य-पाद*,
माहात्म्य-ज्ञान-पूर्वस्तु सुदृढः सर्वतोऽधिकः /
*स्नेहो भक्तिरिति प्रोक्तः* तथा मुक्तिः, न चान्यथा //
*Our आचार्य-पूज्य-पाद uses the apt word स्नेह which in Sanskrit means viscous*.
इति शम्
Thank you & best regards,
Raghavendra Bheemasena Rao.
Two things 1 if shree krishna is the cause of everything then the evil and the victim both are god so why punish us everything is getting controlled then why saving a person who is dying let him die it's krishna doing or the ultimate being doing secondly if knowledge is everything then why did he defined so called idiotic varna by birth at birth everyone is abodh
@@ex009adityarajsingh2 nonsense idiot, varna is not by birth rather also by merits and in herent nature of individuals... Which Lord krishna, the supreme cause clarified in gita.... By guna and karma.... The varna
@@ex009adityarajsingh2 evil and good whichever you are experiencing is nothing but Lords divine play...
@@ex009adityarajsingh2 but that dies not mean to stop karma... Just do it like arjuna knowing everything is Lord's play
Raghavendra MBR - There is no blind devotion or Bakthi in hindu/vedic tradition. We have just shraddha (trust but verify with knowledge and experience). The word Shraddha was replaced by Bakthi in Baghavad Gita. Thanks to colonizers. They wanted to create blind bakthi movements to mimic Abrahamic religions. Colonizers thought It would be easy to control people through organized bakthi movements just like Church.
So, they also created fake back dated non existent figures like Madhavacharya, Ramanuja and went to any extend to prove it. Their fake interpretations of the original Advaitha and Dvaitha metaphysics caused serious confusion among hindus which led to the thinking that Advaitha and Dvaitha are competing metaphysics
Original Dvaitha does not say athman is not equal to brahman and Advaitha does not say that Maya is the illusion through which Brahman falsely appears as the universe either. Maya is the creative shakthi of Shiva and it is absolutely real. So, our world/universe is also real. Advaitha just says that the illusion (false identification with thoughts and body) is caused by Maya.
Point is Advaitha (non dual shiva) and Dvaitha (dual shakthi but only in combination with non dual shiva) are incomplete without each other.
You are truly a gifted teacher my beloved Swamiji…
Dvaita philosophy is full of Gnana, Bhakti and Vairagya... not only Bhakti.
It is clearly told with out Gnana bhakti is not useful.
Only fake interpretations of Dvaitha vedanta have blind Bakthi.
Madhvacarya's philosophy is a perfect science. It is indeed a diamond. Many cannot understand it. But literally speaking, Dwaita alone is the ultimate which took on different forms later as Acintya Bheda Abheda. We are indeed indebted to Madhvacarya, Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Baladeva Vidyabhushana etc Vaisnava Acaryas.
48:00 Super explaination of Advaita Vedanta🙏🙏
All good things mustn't come to an end
All good things and bad things come to an end.
No only Good Things Prevail .
What a maturity thoughts.... Swamiji accepted every path leads to one......
If I were earlierly Brahman then which force push into this world?
And that force should be stronger than Brahman itself.
Advaita vedanta is nonsense
You weren't earlier Brahman
@@nilalohita5020 then what?
@@vishalkhod6280 Yes, if Maya captures Brahman and it becomes Ishwara and Jeeva, then Maya must be stronger than Brahman since it has the power to expropiate Brahman.And also, Brahman is both Consciousness and Truth and simultaneously it is in ignorance so it becomes jeeva or ishvara, then how did the Same Unified Brahman be free from Maya and in Maya just like there could he no space of Light and Darkness simultaneously, that's why Advaita is completely flawed only Dvaitam is correct.
Hari Sarvotamma , Vayu Jeevotamma.
There is correction needed. Dwaita siddantha is originally called Tatvavada doesn't influence just Bhakthi, but Bhakthi that comes out of Knowledge. Bhakthi without Knowledge is discouraged in Tatvavada.
True. And how can you get Bhakti without Knowledge anyways?
Thank you swamiji very very beautiful explanation
Like in the West, Spinoza's philosophy doesn't support religion although it advocates God.
Madhvacharya just didn't say because of grammar ,look at the examples given in Upanishad to explain about tatvamasi . If you are explaining something with examples means this is like these examples. Why are not quoting those examples ? All those examples quoting clearly duality.
All mukhya upanishads establish only Advaita
HARI SARVOTTAMA VAYU JEEVOTTAMA 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@silverstone9952 la*da
@@silverstone9952 No,
swamiji two question please:
1. "If adishankara was a supporter of advaita Vedanta, then why does he build so many temples and compose so many slokes associate with god and goddesses "
2. "brahman satyam, jagat mitha " is true, and "Sarvam Khaluidam Brahman." is also true, then how the jagat is mitha, is brahman something in objects, or it is the object itself.
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Its said God created these worldly things. If I am Brahman, can i create one such thing . Kindly clarify.
Advaita halahal samam
Don't depend on others; we are all alone to deal with the mystery. 1000 different voices will have 1000 different answers to the same question.
@@Elaphe472 are you a communist who is insulting dharma?
@@subhrodiprakshit8923 -- I am sorry if I offended you. I actually read something about Buddha; very interesting teacher (I learned he could hide cookies under his belly). - Your name is funny! Rak is a company that makes toilettes (www.rak.com), and then the last part of your name is s h i t... Rak-shit...
Isn't that something?
murali mohan - Shiva (athman = brahman) cannot produce shakhti (intelligent energy which makes up from subtle thoughts to gross macrocosm) and nothing can produce Shiva either. But shakthi can change from one form to another in combination with shiva which is omnipresent (immanent and transcendent).
Swamiji is not refuting Dvaita school of thought but his understanding of Dvaita philosophy which is, as far as I am concerned, not the accurate undestanding. And he is self contradictory in many places. At one point, he says Dvaita position comes with a lot of logical arguments, madhwacharya says knowledge leads to more Bhakti in Dvaita vedanta and then goes on to say that Dvaita school is faith driven. I'm not here to prove that Dvaita school is the right school, that's a separate discussion and that can carry any meaning only when the speakers invloved in the discussion have the right undestanding of each other's position. Intervening here coz the viewers should not think what he is saying is the right representation of Dvaita philosophy.
Wonderful session.
Advaita should be a study subject in school or university . Just one Step by Step philosophy like Maths like numbers , Additions, Multiplications , Geometry , Trigonometry , Graphs , Statistics , Probability , Derivatives, Integrations , Sets , .... ;
Swamiji , madhva followers were not identifying us as body ,manas or anything. We are not Brahman in us means jeevatma and that paramatma are different.
Madhvacharya never said we should believe blindly. For his every quote he put Veda mantra as reference. According to believe in God in the sense believe as per the Vedas quoted him.
Adhvaitis quoting only 5 mahavakyas which seems to say oneness but ignore all those 95% of duality quoted. This is not right.
Ignoring duality quotation means it's clear ignorance of Adhvaitis.
Athma and Brahman are NOT different. If you perceive like that then you either have ego or no understanding of Sankhya vedic metaphysics (which combines Advaitha and Dvaitha). You also step into the territory of monotheism following blind faith Abrahamic religions which also say athma or soul and transcendent divine are different.
Why athman = brahman? without the immanent Athma or divine nothing exists or nothing can be perceive in its current form or no duality cycles can happen like birth/death and without shakthi which makes up our thoughts and body, shiva (athman/brahman) is shava (corpse). So, advaitha (non dual shiva) and Dvaitha (dual shakhti) cannot exist without each other. Shiva and Shakthi always exist together for the perpetual duality cycles to happen. This is Sankhya vedic metaphysics.
@@Dharmicaction questions to you , who is greater between Shiva and shakti ? Are they different? Are they same ?
@@ecpavanec Epic 🙏
HARI SARVOTTAMA VAYU JEEVOTTAMA 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
With all due respect One thing you could have touched on while talking about Dvaita is its stress on Anubhava or experience which is key to Gnyaana. While Advaita seems to have a gap in this. What is the way to acquire gnyaana while one is suffering in samsaara according to advita? Since the world is mithya, the anubhava one gets from it should also be mithya. So there is no means of getting gnyaana. The only way is to negate all experiences in this samsaara and take that as the essence of knowledge but how do we know something is mithya? So when one is hurt, one should say 'this experience is only an illusion', when one sins then too one shall say it is an illusion. So the origin of karma itself is negated. Because karma is cause and effect, both are negated as the cause and the effect are both mithya. Yes, with Guru's grace one can acquire knowledge but since there is no reference, how do we know that the guru's knowledge is even real and full? For one to feel that "sarvam khalvidam bramha", this 'feeling' has to have an aspect of experience. But again, this experience itself is questionable if it is anywhere closely related to experiences in samsara. When we talk about in absolutes, the absolute also has to have a reference else they will be absolutes only to their own extent. When we say the flooding river is like an ocean, it is the momentary experience of its vastness that makes us say that but after the initial euphoria, the experience (knowledge) with a real ocean makes us correct our momentary inference that this is still a river and not an ocean. Our knowledge of the ocean brings forth several other attributes like "the ocean has salt water", the ocean is 100s of sq km in area" and hence this is not an ocean but still a river, but just a big river. Like a vessel filled with water is full but its only full to its capacity unless a reference is added.
Both philosophy makes sense,what a sophisticated creation by God.
@Identity-less Cosmonaut yes but only if u can see
🤣🤣🤣🤣 so you understand everything now I must ask for some basic questions what is god
@@ex009adityarajsingh2 reality is god..
@@ex009adityarajsingh2 god is the supreme cause of all..
@@subhrodiprakshit8923 if he is cause of everything then God is evil not good he victimised and discriminates people
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