Spring Fullers & Hammer Eye Drifts. Tools to make tools.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2025
- second video this week on tool making. I seem to make a lot of tools and some of them tools are made to make more tools. This video i will be making a set of spring fullers, a pair of hammer eye drifts and using them to make some hammers.
Hope you enjoy?
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Real Dan is what I appreciate. I am real Steve. Learning the craft from real humans. Thanks Dan. 😎🇨🇦
one of the things that fascinates me the most about blacksmithing is creating the tools you need to get the job done
Your one of my favorite blacksmiths to watch!
Thanks dude means a lot.
Rough and ready is better than all polished up because it is real. You are doing Great Dan !!
Dan first of all I want to say that I enjoy all of your videos especially the ones that are real time tool making tutorials' I am in the process of setting up my shop in order to help veterans get started in Blacksmithing' I am trying to learn as much about tool making as possible' In Montana we have a suicide rate among are vets that is 3 times higher than the national average' and we have found that getting vets into Blacksmithing is very helpful. So keep on doing some tool tutorials. Thank you for all you do
Thank you Daniel for all your videos. I love watching you work and how you explain what and how you do things. Keep them videos coming, Be Safe and GOD BLESS
Personally, I think the videos you put out are perfect for the actual smithing community! Loads of information, good balance of hand and power hammer work to include everyone and a good pace to keep up with as well. From a youtube views perspective, I think the Alec Steele style vlogs with fancy camera work and large cool projects that appeal to the masses will always perform better as they just aren't as niche but from a hobbyist view, the clean work you produce is always something to aspire to!
Thanks dude that means a lot. I don't want to be like Alec and I'm shock I have such a large channel. If it gets bigger cool. If it helps make some money bonus. It sort of is which is nicwe and I'm very lucky.
If it can let me do what I love I'll keep working at it.
@@danielmoss2089 Totally understand! As a uni student, Alec's video peaked my initial interest but videos like yours were what made me feel like I could really make a start myself and were invaluable when I was starting out with limited time and money! Im sure as more people in my situation decide to make the jump to start out your channel will grow because it is absolutely perfect for it! All I can say is keep it up!
Cheers!
Love your content and style and honesty
Thank you Marce.
Well done ! And use champ ruler it’s awesome I use mine all the time!!!!!
Great rule if I had a brain lol
A inevitable rendezvous where a certain Daniel Moss share his knowledge in all honesty .Where "NOT PERFECT" mean we've learned something. Trust me I am an assiduous viewer.😉
Loved the video dan. The mistakes make it real loved the content👍
Thanks dude means a lot.
I just want to say as from many of us in the blacksmithing community, thank you for staying busy, vigilant and making sure that your videos reach us in the TH-cam world!!!!
You are a true gentleman,patriot, blacksmith and all around good guy!!
It's fun to watch you as I'm still learning the trade and your channel inspires me and gives me hope for tomorrow because you give and I'm sure many people something to do the next day after watching your videos..
Thank you Daniel,🙏🏼👍🏻
Thank you means a lot and I'll do my best.
There is nothing wrong with not being perfect. You're doing a great job. Thanks....
Thanks Ken.
Appreciate ya Mr. Moss!
Its comforting to see that I am not the only one struggling with multiple jobs mainly because I like to do everything myself. Recently a friend wanted to help me with some stuff. I was reluctant, but she was keen & she did a super job, enjoying what she did & whereas I am a "when I get round to it" which often means never, that job got done quickly. Perhaps while you sort out your wifi, you could sub contract your uploading to someone close by with fast wifi who you can give a pen drive to with your video on. I am rubbish at this type of sub contracting, but I am trying to get better at it to avoid tying up my computer & all the vexations of dropped connections etc whereas friends with fast fibre quickly
upload with out much trouble.Thanks for sharing!
I don’t think you’ve ever made a video I didn’t like Dan! Really appreciate your hard work! Thanks and God Bless you sir!
Thanks dude means a lot.
I didn't notice the echo, and is subtle, until you said something. A lavaliere will help if you don't already have one.
I love that you're so critical of your own work. Your crap is my awesome.
thanks dude. Understand your weakness and work on them. your not seeing the other hammers but if you did you would agree. the massey goes from 0-F@£$ed in a blink of an eye.
Enjoyed this, good work Sir!
I quite enjoy the rough and rugged stuff. And I like the lengths you go to to explain your process at the anvil. Hope all is well on your end. Thanks Dan
Thank you.
Great video. Good info.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for making this content. I love watching it!
Oh yes! - another great tool I need! thank you for helping me along.
Happy to help!
Thank You Dan! I enjoy watching the different processes of tool making.
Nice ruler and new tooling,thanks .
Love the tool making video's Mr. Daniel
Please stop apologising. We watch your work because we learn something every time and the fact that you're a commercial blacksmith means we get the benefit of the seeing the labour and cost saving shortcuts professionals use. So, just do what you do make what you make and stop apologising. Love your work.
Thank you for the content
Your doing all right mate don't worry about echo .and the rough and ready not a problem as long as it works .
I'm just a hobbyist blacksmith so anything you do good or bad is fine by me , and if i could make my work look as good as your mistakes i would be happy . so keep up the good work and i hope by watching i will keep improving .cheers.
Awesome content mate. These video's are very helpful and interesting... thanks for sharing, it is appreciated.
I also like the just roll with mistakes and learn from them.
In my opinion you are doing a great job. Nice to see the honesty. I hope everything comes together for you. Thank you for what you do.
Thanks Dan
Great video again.
Good content Daniel as always.
I like the raw Dan when you make your pro videos your just too perfect which is great for a tutorial but make what you want to and be yourself. I kinda want to see the hammers the Massey destroyed, and for the echo it’s hardly noticeable and you have to be paying attention to it.
Hits the like button 100+times lol
Thanks Alex, not a chance friend my dirty secrets are my own lol.
Have you ever considered making blanks for hardy bottom tools? I don't have a power hammer or swage block but want to make some bottom swages. My hardy is too near the heel to try and forge a blank in it, it is a farrier's anvil so even if I draw the shank down I can't forge the material above the face down. It is something I would be interested in buying.
No I haven't but i could try something.. thanks
@@danielmoss2089 Let me know. I have your Etsy bookmarked.
@@shotout74 thanks dude ill keep ya in the loop.
Definitely!!!!!
@@danielmoss2089 out of curiosity how far are you from Middleburg? Buddy of mine that I went to shoeing school with is an instructor there. Daniel Sheridan.
Another great video Dan I have some springs that I intend to use for spring dies less drawing out and I don’t want to use my bought in stock 😊
wish you would have told detentions of your hammer drifts. it is nice when you do that for the stuff you make.
feedback - rough and ready is good. real is good. I don't mind that one bit, as that is how I work also. I do not require perfect every time. mistakes are life, as we learn and grow.
No one is perfect, so you showing yourself making mistakes mean you're human, bro. I don't mind you making stuff with all your tools (power hammer, fly press, etc...) I would like to see more stuff for beginning blacksmithing just starting out. You know a person with only a few hammers, an anvil, and a set of tongs. For me that would be really helpful to know what to worry about making first as far as additional tooling and jigs to have. I know I need to get basics down first. Thanks keep the human videos coming, brother.
Thanks for sharing these things mate, love seeing you making tools. Hammers are going good.
Glad you like them!
By way of constructive criticism, I didn't learn much watching you make your drifts with the power hammer. I would have liked you to talk about how to determine the dimensions you want, and how to achieve them. I did, of course, enjoy watching you work!
I have made a video like that in the past. I make a punch and a drift. I talk about dimensions and why I do things. If I made everything by hand it would take forever. Making drifts is a bitch my hand. I honestly know that people hate the power hammer but needs must. I often make tools by hand when I can. These videos are a little different.
The bang bang stuff is meant to keep your attention and look cool ish in this video. Sorry its not always about hand.
Keep doing what you’re doing. I love that you make these skills accessible, and I’ve learned a lot from you 🤘🏻
Dan, Warts and all is the go mate. I'm learning..
Great videos. Keep it up.
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I'm loving all the content your putting out. You have a tall ceiling, of coarse there's an echo. Pictures great, accents a little strange but we work around it.
I like the track to sound in the background lol
I'm loving these video's! I have noticed that your auto focus is doing some really random things. Just a thought for your hammers that go in the "bin", the 2 ends could be drawn out before cutting away from the hammer eye....... imagine a hammer eye with 2 blanks for center punches (or something similar) ready to be chopped off and sent out to happy customers. I know it won't cover the cost of a hammer but it's better then scrapping them 👍
I cut them all up and uses as much as I can. As for the auto focus I some times forget to slightly back the lenses off a little when i'm in closes. Theres no where for it to go so it bounces a round. like i said rough lol
@@danielmoss2089 does that mean you actually have a bucket of hammer eyes?!?!?!? That would make forging hammers so much easier if you have a load of eyes waiting to be thrown on a hammer 😁 Probably best to keep them for emergencies when you don't have time to punch a hole LOL (and no, I hadn't actually thought of that joke when I made the first comment, it just came to me now) 👍
Good to hear you're busy. Hoping to see some more hammers up on your Etsy. I'm defo in the market for one of yours. Need a 2.5 (or so) pund rounding hammer. When you've got some stock on hand ping me and I'll buy it as soon as you do. Also, I'd love to see a how to on a spring fuller for a hardy hole. I don't have a striker or power hammer. I've had crap luck doing one myself
I enjoy this style of video. If your doing it as a tutorial or something yeah you want the nice clean edited fancy stuff. Which I do like just as well. These videos seem like we get to see a little bit more of you as yourself opposed to Dan The Professional. Either way keep up the good work and we'll wait for the next one
Thanks dude.
Love the video, I am trying to get into blacksmithing. Looking into old school type of smithing and forging. So since I'm new to everything some of the terms are unfamiliar maybe if you had like a brief description of what its called and exactly what it does. Maybe a voice over during the time lapse you made
Not 5!!! I'm sueing!! 😜 You know I like the raw drunk English man 🤣🤣 Good idea having two drifts. Keep on Mossin'
Thanks Benny boy.
Hi Dan, love the video's on tools to make tools. I'm in the process of building my first forge and its great to see the techniques you use. Can you let us know which materials you use for the different tools or alternative materials if possible. Thanks, Rob.
Ill try to remember for the next video. Ill do a bit on steels. Thanks for the great comment.
I am also interested which material you used for the spring and the actual shaping parts on the ends. My question would also be, in lack of a power hammer, if these spring fullers can be somehow used or attached in the hardy and use it with a normal hammer.
When and how did you learn to use a power hammer? In the blacksmith group I belonged to they highly discouraged using a power hammer and so we did all our work completely by hand. As you can imagine my dominant arm muscles became much bigger than my non-dominant arm
Yea....go for it.
I always wondered why there are not several rotating & cooling drifts or punches on a project
Right? We even discussed it, you and I, in class
That and tongs that hold the billet lolololol.
🙏blessed be Rob
Crawford out 🧙♂️
I have a couple of small slug drifts that I finish up with on the hammer but normally just the one. However it was time to step up.
I didn't notice the echo until you brought it up but if you want to stop it you can make some sound absorption panels. I have a video on my channel titled Sound Absorption Panel Assembly. It's basically a 2x4 ft box to hold a batt of Roxul Mineral Wool insulation 4" thick. I assume by your accent that you aren't in the states but I sourced mine through Lowe's building supply. I used them in a band rehearsal hall and hung them at ear level on parallel walls and hard surfaces. You can reduce a significant amount of noise in a room by doing this.
Like the video! When you handforge, do you use spring fullers?
If I'm on my own yes with a striker top and bottom fuller. Much nice.
Much nice is good nice.
Is the spring portion of the fuller made from the usual Hardox/4140? How springy is that... Also, I like video style and excited for this series. Great job Dan!
Its tyne and I think its 4140. you can make it out of mild but tyne holds up better. thanks dude.
cool video.... are you going to do a follow up on your forge burner?
This is Dan...This is Dan on black rifle coffee... This is Dan on black rifle coffee chasing it w energy drinks!! Hahahaha I couldnt resist. Hope you got a giggle out of it.
Dude you havent made a video I didnt find something to learn from or liked watching. Hell what other channel can you learn to power hammer a can of Custer on....see what I mean.
Echo huh hadn't noticed enough to ponder on it. Ok it's a smithy w a Real working smith doing it his best way and allowing us along for a free education. No I dont think we should expect 20th century fox production. You laugh and smile and show us a good time plus your critical of yourself when you feel you didnt meet your perception of Acceptable Standards. You do awesome things we dont see any other Smith's do. Post vice from scratch. Miniature post vice with built in anvil. Haven't seen this anywhere else on TH-cam. You do great work. Even though your human and make mistakes. Just keep doing what you do mate.
🙏 Blessed days sirSir you and your lady
Crawford out 🧙♂️
Get you an editor Dan. Have them watch you older stuff and see what you like and have them do it for you..... I know several influencers here in the states have editors across the pond in the UK doing their edits and they're awesome
Maybe I should do that.
🤔 haven't seen a guillotine tool yet with a spring or two, or even a latch to hold the top fuller up for easter material insertion 🤔
That might make a good video you should try it.
@@danielmoss2089 just aquired a huge railroad spring off an engine, 12inch wide coils with 2+1/4 inch thick material, am looking for different designs for hammers, like Alex has Brien's "round/square" design, and hardware store is basically square stock with an octagon face, etc.. would like to check out other designs
Tried my hand at making a spring fuller snapped right away due to me messing up tempering 😅
Formal apprentice program to help with the workload?
Call the echo, intentional Reverb ;-)
There is one thing you could fix, and its the sound when you are forging and explaining at the same time, sometimes it´s very hard to understand what you are saying. Other than that i have to say i have learned a lot from you and want to thank you for the material and effort you put in these videos.
Nice video dan, but if you make a mistake never reveal it cause as a teacher your the only that knows that you made a mistake... 👍👌😁great job once again
Worry not about the echo. A blacksmith shop isn't a recording studio. 🤣
Hahaha that it is not.
I spotted that you replied to my original (unedited post) before I changed it. Thanks for the reply, you are a gentleman (and probably a connosseuir of fine whiskies as well) I'm just dropping the extra text I added as a new post as I would be interested in how you reply. text follows - I notice you said you get a certain number of hammers out of a drift
before it needs to be 'retired' Would you consider selling the 'scrap'
drifts as material for beginners to practice making blades/smaller tools
from? If this is just a daft idea please give me feedback telling the
community at large why it won't work. (I won't be in the slightest
offended if I'm wrong, in fact, if I am wrong I'd love to know why and
be told the reason by a real blacksmith! It would increase my own
knowledge) Thanks again.
Warts and all is fine with me - so many TH-cam videos are too polished. As for the echo that doesn't bother me either as it's a workshop not a TV studio.
Yes it's nice to hear adulations but I agree constructive criticism can go a long way to help some one improve their work. I make it a point to leave in my mistakes when I make a video so I can go back and watch them and learn from that mistake
Oh yeah and the acquaintance too bad I hardly notice it
500th like!!
I like the new video format but the fast-forwarding stuff yeah that's kind of hard to follow
noted. thanks and thank you for the comment.
Hey Dan, love the whole concept of making the tools to make the hammer. I just finished a video series where I did just that, inspired by your channel (if you get time maybe check it out @ Forge Wright and see how I went as a beginner) now Im half way through making my first ever hammer, hoping to finish it this weekend. I find it hard to find things in your videos to criticise BUT maybe instead of just telling us how you made a mistake here or there, actually include that in the video and highlight where you went wrong so we can learn from your mistakes as we do from ours. Just a thought. Love your channel mate Keep up the good work. 👍⚒
Oh my Gosh, Blue is blind, someone took his eyes, He will never be the same please tell me he is going to be okay are you going to get him a seeing eye dog?
On it sir hehe
Don't be sorry Dan, handmade craftsmanship takes time. It's a basic fact of nature. I'd rather wait for a cfraftsman's tool than buy something half-arsed and knocked out just for profit. I notice you said you get a certain number of hammers out of a drift before it needs to be 'retired' Would you consider selling the 'scrap' drifts as material for beginners to practice making blades/smaller tools from? If this is just a daft idea please give me feedback telling the community at large why it won't work. (I won't be in the slightest offended if I'm wrong, in fact, if I am wrong I'd love to know why and be told the reason by a real blacksmith! It would increase my own knowledge)
Thanks dude means a lot.
I always enjoy you vids Dan, but you asked for constructive criticism so hear goes... when you get to talking fast I cant understand what the heck your saying. Bob's ur uncle and slow down man!! Lol. God bless u my friend.
Thank you and I'll see what I can do?
What is your ig?
Tend not to watch alec steel any since he fucked off to the us and only makes knives and sword keep up the good work
this film is very disjointed with the demonstrator popping in and out of one thing to another. There is no continuity. Your info might be good, but with it being so disjointed and inconsistent it won't make much sense to people trying to learn. Your presentation isn't terrible, but isn't too good neither. You need to have a cohesive and definite direction when doing presentations like this. Everything needs to occur sequentially, not jumbled and jumping from one thing to another as you did here. I watched less than 2 minutes and had to stop because nothing you were doing was making much sense.
Your audio was pretty much crap when you spoke because of the loud echoing in your shop. As someone mentioned, a good lavaliere microphone would have solved your poor audio problems. There were points it became difficult to understand you clearly because of the amount of echoing that occurred in your shop while filming.
You have a huge power hammer and what seems like a decent looking shop. I'm sure you might be skilled with blacksmithing, but when you do your next presentation, plan it out ahead of time. Have a cohesive and direct approach. Have your presentation organized sequentially and move from one topic to another, or organize a single topic in sequential steps. That would be easier to follow and far more preferable to the jumbled mess you brought.
You have a good camera and the editing isn't terrible. It could be improved upon. But by far your weakest points are lack of direction and continuity and poor audio. If you redo this one by filming it again and have it better organized I may decide to watch. But I will not finish watching this video because it is just too disjointed and lacks good continuity. Thank you anyway.
Thank You for your honesty. I'm assuming you either don't like me or you haven't watched any of my other videos. I would be interested to see what you made of one of my video which was based around a project rather than a vlog.
I'm a little concerned you didn't find the video enjoyable and i'm currently working on the way I create content. I think you and others are correct this one was a little messy and could have been better. I tend to have a rough idea of whats going on most of the time but my ambition can cause me some issues from time to time. Balancing my job as a smith with creating content and keeping up with work can be difficult and I'm find that at this current time. I want to create more content helping my channel to grow and helping me make money in the career I have chosen whilst appeasing the youtube gods if you get me.
I have asked about the echo and im getting mixed feed back on this. I'm not much of a videographer and I try my best so I can only work on one thing at the time and I'm currently trying to fight a lossing battle with lighting. I asked for feed back cause it helps but you wouldn't have known that if you only watched 2 mins of the video. However it helps and your points have been noted.
I think a lot of people have been enjoying these videos and I'm not sure if your the brave majority or the disgruntled few but I'm not going to stop working on this more laid back video. Not only do I enjoy making them but I honestly feel that others do. Until the likes and comments match up with your very negative view I might think about modifying my ideas. Also with the increasing video out put the channel has gain subs and views that can't be grumbled at and my etsy is buzzing.
let me know if you do watch another video I would be keen for you to let me what you think? I was going to offer you a suggestion but i'm a gluten for punishment and I'm sure you will tell me just how that stinks as well.
@@danielmoss2089 Mr. Moss, I based my observations on watching the video. There's no reason to accuse me of not liking you. I don't know you and we've never met. Forgive my bluntness, but I do believe in being honest and forthcoming. What I said about your video stands because it felt very disjointed and seemed to be wandering because you jumped from one topic to another without really completing any of the tasks you were talking about.
I started watching your video because I had a genuine interest in the topic based on the title of the video you posted. I also happen to do video filmmaking. Continuity and a strong steady storyline is important even if the video doesn't have a narrative. Your videos contains narratives because you are a presenter doing the narrative of your work. I like seeing things taken in order. I think you were trying to do an instructional video, but it was hard to tell because of how you suddenly switched and changed projects seemingly midstream. In my view as a filmmaker this produces discord and is disrupting.
Your editing is good, but it can be refined considerably. Use of j-cuts and l-cuts might be helpful because you are doing your narrative while filming. You obviously did your shoot in different takes because it's apparent that you took the time to set up your shots, then took the time to reposition to do your other takes. It's obvious you used some filler shots that you filmed separately and added them into your video. That's good practice to have b-roll footage to use in your videos. It helps to break up a monotonous and static shoot, and if done correctly, can actually improve on continuity in a film.
Do you see where I'm going here? My biggest issue is your continuity. It's weak and needs to be improved. I apologize if I offended you. It's my hope you'll take some of this as constructive critique, and is in no way intended to be criticism or insulting. It's obvious to me that you are a skilled smith and have a very good working knowledge of this venerable old craft. You have the right idea in your video filmmaking. With just a few tweaks and improvements on your delivery you could make some exceptional instructional and professional looking videos.
Please though, stay away from the cheap and cheesy intros that everybody uses... you know the ones... "Hey Guys, what's up?", or, Hey Everybody... or Hi Guys..." and every different connotation of those cheesy intros that everybody uses. If you want to be a professional filmmaker or presenter, then by all means be one. Write a script, plot your films and lay out a cohesive direction that creates continuity and tells a strong story.
And lastly, see if you can find a good lavaliere microphone to use so that you aren't recording so much echo from your shop. Video camera mics are ok, but very limited to what they can do effectively. A good boom microphone, or a personal lab mic are excellent choices for the work you do with videos. Forgive me for insulting you and offending. I meant no disrespect. Here is a link to the last video film I made. It's a PSA video I filmed to combat against pollution in Alaska.
Regards,
JW
The link:th-cam.com/video/u5NRRvjrG78/w-d-xo.html
@@alaskanfrogman OK firstly there are some odd people in the world that get there kicks out of being arse holes. Not saying you are but cause of some of my content I've made in the past I've upset some people. It's clear that you didn't even attempt to look at a different video like I suggested in my reply. This is some what of an experiment and the feed back (criticisms) you gave was noted. Thank you for pointing them out I'm still learn. I'm a slow learner. Your honesty is welcome.
Regardless I'm still going to work on this style and push it along with my more focused tutorial videos. I think if you watch one of these you might get a better understanding of me and my content and the reason I'm growing so well. (OK)
The channel is grown and I'm using it as a why to grow my business. I didn't think or intend for this to happen just sorta did. I'm not a natural when it comes to camera and I fight an up hill battle.
After your first comment I checked out your channel and some of your videos. Yes you make lovely video using a drone of some sort. There boring and I skipped through most of them to just grab the gist. Which if it wasn't for the text I would have got but I am slow.
Thanks for the advice I'm going to continue to make videos like this which ain't as refined as some of my other stuff. Well I think they are refined (or more so than this video.) I'm sure you could pull them to pieces. These blog videos take less time and some people like watch to what I'm doing in the shop. I hope I can refine the cuts and footage a little so I don't need to spend time editing. Which I hate. I spend loads of time making video and editing to create reasonable content. (I think.) not the best not the worst.
I would honestly ask you if you thought the same if you watch another video I have made. Your feed back (criticism) would be welcome.
You can save yourself some time making hammers by not drawing out the sides of the eye so much. Farrier rounding hammers have been made that vway forever with no problems. The eye is the same height as the diameter of the face. Just a suggestion since you're working too hard. 😉