Disagree about Spence. Not sure what they've been watching, but he's been one of our best players when he has played and that's without many of our best players and the fact he is playing on the left side. Simon hasn't given him credit for what he's done and I don't think he's been at fault for goals we've conceded.
When everyone is fit again for us, I’d still start Spence. He’s been solid. Same with Gray who has been downright amazing covering so many position out of his natural midfield. Deserves an opportunity in his natural position.
YEah because a former arsenal player and fan of the club is gonna be honest about how to improve. He is just putting pressure on because he knows ange is a good coach and he doesnt want him there
I don’t understand what he doesn’t get, no one is asking to completely change just have some street smarts when defending and the game is going in a certain direction, like scoring before half time when 2-0 down its basic maths. His attitude stinks when being interviewed about this.
You don't understand what he doesn't get? - actually you do! He doesn't get it because he has never been involved in football at a top level. He simply doesn't understand football. While you, who may only be some punter - does. He's an idiot who doesn't understand he's an idiot...
We may not have won, but the way we were setup made it easier for Slot to know how to approach it. Even Salah said he knew how we'd play. The Wolves coach last year came on Sky and gave an insight into how they beat Spurs and they did the same thing twice! Ange is too predictable, teams knows how to counter his tactics and it's so easy just to play long balls in behind the full backs into that space and to counter attack on us, as we overload our attack. They know we won't change oir approach, we don't cross high into the box, always low crosses or cut backs. Solanke doesn't get into the box that much, we don't vary our play by speeding it up and slowing it down or go long/direct sometimes. The passing out from the back doesn't suit the players we have, unless we have our first choice players, so playing that style regardless will lead to mistakes and cost us goals and points. He needs to adapt, he needs to protect certain players and in moments where you have players out, you can't play your normal way, as it will cost the team. Injuries are an easy excuse, nobody was using that when we beat City, Utd or Southampton. He's making the players look worse than they are. I feel sorry for Forster and Gray. Porro isn't a right back and I'd rather see Spence at right back and Porro right wing, keep Kulu in the centre. Try Reguilon at left back or adjust the team, go three at the back and put Dorrington in there or Davies, when he's back, to help with the high line and to defend the space left ny our full backs.
If you know what tactics win games where is your premier league job? How many cups have you won? Surely if its that simple you can beat premier league clubs by threes and fours because then youd be at least as good a premier league manager as ange
Exactly. Remember last season when he attempted to gaslight every single person in the Tottenham institution including the fans by crafting this false narrative that he was the only person who wanted to win that city game. Yeah that was also after he’d just lost four league games on the trot too.
@ Mate, I’m not going into the detail here, just the basic principle of not changing your tactics regardless of opposition is clearly not a good thing. You just don’t;t have to be a winning manager to see what Liverpool were going to do to that Spurs setup.
@@lionheart34299 isn’t twice 7 mate. But let’s be honest Spurs weren’t a club winning anything before Ange so might as well play entertaining football, no? Also you’re still in with a shout at Europa League, League Cup, and even the FA Cup. As an outsider, Spurs are the most entertaining team to watch in the league at the moment. What manager would you want and do you honestly think anyone else would win the league with Tottenham? That hasn’t happened for over 60 years
I think the Spurs fans are loving it. At 1-5, no one left the stadium and nobody booed. And... they're now the highest goalscoring team in the league.... with a team full of injuries. They're functioning at 50%, and they're the highest goalscoring team in the league. God help us when they're at 100%
We'll assess Spurs at the end of the season once we have seen how they have done in all competitions. Once they have a few players back, I'm sure they will start getting better results.
Who has Keown EVER managed???? 20 years ago he was assistant manager at AFC Newbury and lasted just over a year......yeah lets everyone listen to what he has to say!
Postecoglu's demeanour doesn't instill any great confidence, hunched over, staring at the floor, spouting nonsense is not a good look! He thinks winning a title with Celtic makes him a good manager, utterly deluded!
@@stukavonferno8858 just to point out, he has also won the A-league, J-league and the Asian Cup when he was the Australian coach as well, and won 5 out of 6 trophies with Celtic.
@@jayfilmer2594and took over an 8th place, poor football playing team, deadwood squad and losing 30 goal a season Harry Kane. Unfortunately, people think all that was fixed after the first 10 games of last season 👀
Is he really that arrogant and disrespectful to the opposition? His circumstances with players out as he puts it is the exact reason why he should flip the switch and make a different approach so they stand more of a chance of better results. Proper fool Ange
So be negative,change shape and style and lose 2 nil instead in a boring game? Nope you stick to a formula and find who works in that system and recruit accordingly. You would be calling him out for changing his style and losing
@bartman Yeah but all you Ange lovers claimed Ange was gonna flush out and rebuild this team in the previous summer window. He gets three teenagers + solanke in, claims that’s the players he wanted and now he complains that he can’t win because of a depleted squad after he gets absolutely dismantled by a proper team. And he’s run everybody into the ground already but that’s because he won’t change as he so proudly says.
@@bartman01021988 mate you're in the bottom half of the league at Christmas. Isn't this the worst season ever in recent times? Wake up and smell the coffee.
The change of philosophy that he is trying to implement is bigger than the recent results. Even with everybody fit this squad is still short of 3 or 4 players. I can see what he is trying to do but he may not get the finances or the time to execute it.
@@shottskies who said an 8th place Spurs, that plays poor football and is about to lose a 30 goal Kane (as Ange walked in the door) would have it all fixed within 1 year? 🤔 Something tells me you told yourself that.
Livepool looked spectacular . Every attack loooked a threat . Klopp planted this tree and Slott has respected this, put his ego to one side . Tweaked things slightly and now watching it all grow
@@bartman01021988 The Liverpool squad was already there as well as the style of play.......Ange has come in playing a completely different style and we have almost completely changed our squad.....which also included losing the greatest striker this club has EVER had.
@@gudiusthat's down to ignorance though. Klopp assembled all those Liverpool 2.0 players and would have likely won it last season if City (and Arsenal) had the same drop off. Slot is doing the same thing this season but his way.
What he doesn't want to understand is the fact that the supporters that go to the games, both home and away, are spending a fortune each game. They don't want to be entertained like this. Yes we want to see attacking football but, we also want to see a team that can defend and not leak stupid goals like the two we gifted Man Utd last week. Ange has had eighteen months now, and things are getting worse not better. No sign of altering the system so therefore there is no sign of improvment. Did you notice the muted celebrations each time we scored on Sunday? I think the players are now fed up with this system of playing. He has to go and the sooner the better.
LOOK AT WHO WE ARE PLAYING AS DEFENDERS! Archie Gray ffs! The muted celebrations were because we were down 2-0 and then 5-1 when we scored. No team runs around celebrating when that's the state of the game.
Man U are 3-4 games in with a new manager, he has taken over an equally poor team and meeds to rebuild badly. Ange is 18 months in and is injuring his own players with backwards training techniques and losing games by refusing to react to in-game situations. Not really comparible but whatever floats your boat. Ange is a total fraud, has been 100% found out by other managers so it is bizarre that Levi and half of your fans don't see it.
@@sma5605 then try and defend, play on the counter attack, do something!! Don’t try and go head to head with them when you’ve got 10 players out! You’ll never win
@@Bert-lw1otand had he done that (how most clubs play against Liverpool and lose)and been negative and lost 2/3 nil you would be here saying he might aswell have gone for it as it was a free hit with the players out. Great style of play and he simply needs backing in the transfer window
He's talking nonsense there. Not sure he has watched Spence play since we signed him a few years ago. Clearly he has learnt from his time in Rennes and Genoa in particular, he's improved.
No he was wrong as VDV had HS I juries before he came to Spurs. To suggest that previous HS injuries are caused by Anges playing style is well........Wrong!
If you´re up against teams like Liverpool, who are top of everything atm, facing injuries on key players, you can not play the way you do in other games mate - you will get punished badly...and that´s what happened last night. Spurs got a whipping at home and actually they where lucky it stayed with 6 goals conceded, it could of been 10. YNWA 💪
He's not a good a manager - he's somebody who doesnt understand the game! He has just put together some tactics that he himself clearly doesnt understand and that has been putting us under huge pressure.
The usual guff Ange will never change his principles or tactics he will live by the sword or die by the sword I applaud the man he doesn't bow down to anyone no wonder he's fed up listening to twonks.
As a neutral...and as someone who actually admires what Ange is trying to do...yesterday was a step too far for me.... Never seen a game with SO MANY 3v2s and 4v2s ....Liverpool coupdve scored 10 easily and considering the injuries Spurs had they were lambs to the slaughter playing that way.
It's because Angeball is flawed and easily exploited. Liverpool just baited the press, and then played through the Spurs midfield like they were nothing. Once the first press is beaten, Spurs are always wide open. He also likes to play single pivot, so Bissouma always needs to cover 2 players, causing him to play badly and gets the flak for it. I don't know how many matches Ange needs to lose before many of the Spurs fanbase will finally wake up. In the end the main problem is not Ange, but the people who decided to hire him.
So the Postecoglou philosophy is " even a broken clock is right twice a day "? Meanwhile they drop points on a regular basis and won't even reach the top four by the end of the season. Fair enough, it's nice to watch attacking football, but it's even nicer to watch an overall team playing and reading the game in all areas, and demonstrating their awareness of how the game is progressing, and what areas need tightening up as they proceed.
I quite like to watch Spurs play now and it would be great if Ange won a cup this season. The results are crazy but Spurs have tried everything else and not won anything. A little bit of craziness is not the worst thing for a season or two.
Yeah we could have beaten Ipswich and palace . And in a few weeks it will be two more teams we didn’t beat. We will end the season with nothing because his tactics are not sustainable and he has not game management .
They weren't expected to win with depleted squad against a top of the league team at almost full strength and an extra day's rest. There were 2 boring 00 games during the round, guess what game I'd rather watch. Stat wise - Spurs has the most goals atm - with only the top 3 teams having a better GD. They don't have a gun striker (Madison has 8 of their 39 goals & Salah has 15 of their 37 goals), which shows that Spurs scoring is more of team effort. As a manager if your best scorer gets injured or goes cold you are at high risk, Man City has seen this with Haaland going cold. Ange is trying to build a winning team but is struggling due to injuries. This was their biggest loss and they still managed to score 3 goals. Previous to this they only ever lost by 1 goal. Just be happy you were entertained.
Hes clueless playing this football without vdv and romero at centre back. You must adapt and drop back more hes an idiot. Ive tried to back him but not more im done with this manager fed up its how we losing. This is the prem not spl ffs
It is even more surprising that Arteta has spent nearly £700 million on players since taking charge, with the most significant investment being the £105 million acquisition of Declan Rice from West Ham. Despite this substantial outlay, he has yet to secure major titles such as the Premier League or the Champions League during his tenure as manager.
Just a reminder Spurs are now TOP goal scorers in the Premiership- till yesterday they had 3rd best Goal difference. Spurs cannot rotate in ALL areas not just defence! They cannot rest players - Citeh have 3 people out Spurs have 11 . Spurs beat them twice and at Citeh. Four players on Spurs bench are kids some still go to school - literally! Three defenders are new to premiership and are 18,19 and 21 and of course goalkeepers having a nightmare. It’s not the tactics it’s exhaustion! It’s better to keep playing the same system if you change it, it could be even worse! They sacked the head of the medical staff who’d been there 20 years - mistake?
I disagree. I think we did right trying to give ourselves a chance. With 3 defenders and the goalie out we still can only field the ones on the pitch last night. Even if we would have had a more defensive approach, Liverpool would have still roasted us. If you look at the first two season with Klopp, Liverpool had the same issue. Same with Spurs to a certain extent under Poch. A lot of injuries with a more intense playing style. But, the the club needs to give him funds to get more experienced players in. We need a bigger and better squad, but we have so much exiting youth and finally we are playing some great football at times. Spurs would be crazy sacking this man now. Trying to have a go at Liverpool at home in a game you are underdogs is not a big deal.
It's not that Spurs lost or conceded goals, it's the manner of the defeat. Liverpool could have scored more than 6 yesterday, and even with first choice CBs out, that's not an OK performance to have at home
Lets look at the facts: Spurs played a full strength Liverpool team who are an incedibly polished squad at the top of their game and arguably the best team in europe atm. Spurs have a squad depleted by 10, a makeshift back line consisting of: Forster (back-up keeper who cannot play with his feet nor is quick enough to play the essential sweeper role), Grey (an an 18yr old natural midfielder), Spence (only 2nd PL start), Dragusin (only 22 and not quick enough in the system) Poro (not a defender but more importantly, Knackered). The fact that we had one less days rest than Pool and due to injury had to play the same team as Thurs meant that the whole team looked jaded and as a result were second best to every ball. Take nothing away from a brilliant Liverpool team who have had years to develop but we still managed to put 3 past "the best defence in the league". Would they have put 6 past us if we were at full strength (1st team, squad depth, freshness etc)? Unlikely. Would we have scored at least 3 goals? Goes without saying as we scored 3 depleted. Would we have won? Who knows 🤷🏾♂️. What l do know is that I'm happy with the attitude of the players and the direction in which we are moving under Ange. Provided he's backed by the board, Spurs will be riding high in the next couple of seasons, playing some of the most attractive footie known. The key to any solid build is backbone and patience. Let's grow one and exercise the other. COYS!
Excellent synopsis. At 3-5, Allison made a fine save to prevent 4-5. Fine margins make the difference sometimes. Stick with Ange, he's the best manager Spurs have had since Redknapp.
You missed one key point. Even with all your defenders fit, you would have lost. Reason being Liverpool are a better side and Spurs nor Ange engender confidence. Especially among it's fan base
I couldn't agree more, im already bored of reading people slating yesterdays performance when in fact i thought spurs played with everything they had and even the commentator said at 85th minute "spurs are still playing like there is something in it" . I feel like most of these negative comments are based off of zero facts and a highlight video.
The Liverpool squad was already there before Slot came in as well as the style of play.......Ange has come in playing a completely different style and we have almost completely changed our squad.....which also included losing the greatest striker this club has EVER had.
The most baffling thing about this situation in Spurs is that the fans love it, and they think it's entertaining. They've got a beautiful stadium, state of the art and it's full every match and they score goals and lose a lot of matches. it doesn't matter; they're entertained. A win to a Spur's fan is seeing Arsenal their arch enemy losing. Nothing is more satisfactory to Spurs than see Arsenal fall. Winning trophies? What's that? They're not interested in that lifestyle. the mentality of the club is the problem. But they don't care. Why are you trying to change people who aren't interested in changing. This isn't Chelsea where you lose three in a roll, and they start discussing your firing. At Spurs, you lose three in a roll with the entertainment element, your job is safe.
I'm not sure what Simon was watching regarding Spence🤔 Spence has been solid, goal 3 & 5 was down to Dragusin stepping out & not winning the ball, Spence duels & passing showed how good he did against Salah, Salah's goals were tap ins due to Dragusin going AWOL
Alex Ferguson once said that attackers win matches but defenders with championships. No-one is suggesting we go back to the dog days of Mourinho and Conte, but we have the strikers to do the job (look at the clinical finishing of Sonny, Deko, Johnson and Solanke). We need to stop leaving ourselves open. The high defensive line along with ball watching and getting on the wrong side of counter-attacking opponents. Both of these things are a problem. As the guys said, our central defenders are greyhounds who are inevitably prone to hamstrings and strains as they try to recover. Unless you have a reserve team full of substitute greyhounds, like Van der Venn, you are going t be left short.
Arrogance. It isn't even a matter of changing your approach. It's about being better! They're utterly awful 70% of the time and he accepts no responsibility for it.
its simple your playing top of the league, got injuries in central areas, Young Archie at center back, Liverpool best team on transitions, just play deeper and more compact. Love Ange but leave your ego at home mate
Shocking! Not the football! The arrogance of this manager is astounding! Spurs fans yet again being delusional! He’s out of his depth with owners that just don’t care! Liverpool took their foot off the gas! Conceded 3!
I remember Ang stating.. when he looks in the market for good players.. he looks for players moving up divisions ccapable of evolving and adapting quickly to there environment.... This should apply to himself
Any half decent player should be able to make in game adjustments without the managers input, instead they take the managers instructions as gospel no matter how the the game is going and use it as an excuse
Interesting point from Keown talking about Spurs’ senior players taking ownership. There are no real senior players now, especially after the main one’s are injured or out on their feet and that’s all thanks to this woeful ownerships penny-pinching squad management.
I'm amazed with the coverage spurs are getting, some fans giving them a pass because they are supposedly entertaining, believe it or not you can play entertaining football and have a proper defensive structure also , this is camazie football
Great one Martin, “they need to do better on the training pitch?’ Sorry Martin, don’t you understand we have our 3 best centre backs out, we had an 18 year old midfielder playing there instead, we had our reserve right back playing as left back in only his 2nd premier league start, we have our gk out, we have Bentancur out too. Liverpool rested most players on Wed. Spurs players are shattered. If we had sat back they would have still got 6 but we would have got a big 0. I really hope they give Ange time and that he succeeds.
Like carra says you dont win titles playing like that. Klopp did but he made adjustments. At first we were wide open at the back then we got van dijk and paired him with gomez. Both lightning quick so we could leave space in behind and catch the likes of mbappe who they played early on. The other time it didnt work was when we got beat 7-2 by villa. The press was a yard or two off that day all over the pitch we arrived at the ball late, villa had time on ball with no pressure and space in behind and exposed us and scored 7 goals. Liverpool fans know how you win the title playing like that and your press has to be absolutely spot on with everyone going at the right time and noone diving in and getting played past and then you have to be lightning quick at the back so you can recover if it goes in behind. Tottenham dont have the players to play like that and theyre not good enough. Hes treating rhat tottenham team as if hes got van dijk and rio ferdinand at the back in their pomp and klopps dortmund or liverpool midfield press and then the best front 3 in the world
Hi, Coach of team Tottenhan: I have been watching your Tottenham team games for the more then 1 year and saw that that day you defeated team Manchester City 4-0. I suggest that you all keep this player's position in the future, Especially : H. Son , Solanks and D. kulusevski must be in the forward, J. Maddison in the middle, ( I suggest it again : J. Maddison have in the middle !!! Not at the forward ?! Because he has the ability to help the forward players score and can also help the defenders defend.) P. Porro in the back...,. When you lined up the players in the same position as that day, You also won game.
Keown talking like he could have walked into the situation Ange walked into, and now with 15 players out of a 25 man squad, and do a better job than Ange. Never managed, but he's an expert If we'd have sat back and tried to defend and grind out a low scoring game against one of the best teams in Europe it wouldve been 6-0. We put 4 past City with a lot of key players injured, not long ago, we put 4 past Villa at home. Like Ange said its a rebuild, and rebuilds take time. As a supporter of Spurs, i'd much rather go through what we are going through now, playing the way we do, than sitting back fearing teams like we have done for the last 20 years. Look at Man U, huge budget, multiple managers and they are worse off now than they were 10 years ago. Our second half of the season after Janurary will be very different when we have 23- 25 players to pick from and rotate again. Look at the table, 7 points off of 4th with 21 games to go.
Man you living in some kind of dream world. Using wins against city and villa to justify us being 11th in the table, consistently struggling to beat top half teams over a 12 month period, most players regressing, and the manager refusing to adapt anything. But because we got two good results you ignore all that? Pathetic
@@Masterful100i see you ignored the point about being 7 points off top with 21 games to go. Im not happy about being 11th either, but you have to break eggs to make an omlette. Either we choose to sack up and be 'supporters' through tough periods, or we cry as soon as it gets tough. If the impatient fans keep crying and Ange gets sacked, we'll be back to where we were when he walked in, and we'll again go through what United are going through now, manager after manager and no better off, guaranteed. Or we all stop panicking, get a full strength squad back and see how it pans out from end of January onwards.
@@jayfilmer2594 we wouldn't be back to where we were when he walked in. The squad is much younger now and more easily mouldable for a new manager. They are also used to and have been signed to play an attacking, pressing style and presumably we would bring in a manager that plays that style but with better tactical nouse and defending eg. Iraola. So the transition would be easier than going from a conte/mourinho squad full of deadwood. We have forest, Newcastle and arsenal in our next 5 I think. Leave it till end of Jan we'll be 10-15 pts off 4th if we stick with ange
@@Masterful100 yeah, couple of fair points there. But what quality manager, thats currently available, would want to join Spurs AND get us to the top and win things? We've had Champions League and Prem winning managers before, and they didnt win us anything
The Arsenal ex-player 1-0 specialist talks down the Spurs coach. tbh 3-6 goals look bad. But it is worth remembering that 1-3 scores zero points too. So shutting up shop then would've been stupid. Once at 1-3 if they were to score at least 2 goals (to get a point) they must take chances. For my job I deal in probabilities all the time. A modern manager knows that even if probabilities mean Liverpool are more likely to score more goals than Spurs, it also means playing openly gives Spurs a greater probability of scoring the 2 goals needed than if shutting up shop. ie It's worth taking a chance as 2 goals would've put them 3-3 and got themselves a point. They did get the 2 goals, but unfortunately Liverpool got another 3.
Would tottenham have won that game playing like conte or mourinho? The need for conservatism ingrained in british culture is really fascinating to watch play out. People are so outraged by a style that doesnt fit in with their beliefs
@@Masterful100 Before Slot came in the Liverpool squad was already there as well as the style of play.......Ange has come in playing a completely different style and we have almost completely changed our squad.....which also included losing the greatest striker this club has EVER had.
People can say what they want but that how the manager will play, why nobody even saying that the team is not the finished article, the team play that way changing the approach fir Liverpool is just sending the wrong message to the team, and the reason the scoreline was 6-3, was because of the approach the team could have lay down at 5-1. The team is not the finished article, Ange will be judged at the end of the season simple. And Simon Ange his kit telling people he wins in his 2nd season he was just stating a fact.
No team fears playing Spurs because they know they're gonna score against them... Spurs may score a 100 goals but they're gonna concede 150 goals that's for sure.. How can anybody be this stubborn and blind at the same time... Even the best teams around the world is going to concede many many goals with the way Ange Postecoglu play his team... Playing out from back with a GK who's not good with his feet and so high backline , its a miracle Spurs didn't concede 10 against Liverpool it was just 6
Liverpool conceded 3 goals to a depleted Tottenham team and dropped 4 points in previous 2games calm down about the Liverpool winning the league,your about to see the worst blander in league history.
Kewon: "A very good Liverpool team", imagine if that was Arsenal in first at the moment he would be drooling and calling several Arsenal players world class with Arteta being the second coming of Pep Guardiola.
You’re nitpicking they are doing great this season but only 3 points better off after the same amount of matches last season. It’s a good season for them but it looks even better because everyone around them is inconsistent
Keown has always been embarrassing if it was his team he will use many excuses they are best in the league we had injuries this & that to make him feel better look at his team ATM it's even worst for them title pretenders 😂😂😂
@@Bert-lw1ot What im saying is if it was Arsenal with a 4 point lead in the premiership, on a 22 game unbeaten run and being on top of the CL table then yes he would be screaming it through the rafters with the greatest praise he could muster.
League position don’t lie. Ang needs to take responsibility more I believe. Journalists, fans are there to challenge his decisions. I was a big fan of Ang to begin with but now it feels like he reckons he’s being a ‘victim’. Ang - do some more defensive coaching pal !
"It's who we are, mate..."
"It is what it is..."
She'll be right mate!!
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It’s just stubbornness and naivety. No is saying change how you play completely but adapt. You’re allowed to adapt your tactics to suit certain games
Win the league this season then we maybe will listen.
Disagree about Spence. Not sure what they've been watching, but he's been one of our best players when he has played and that's without many of our best players and the fact he is playing on the left side. Simon hasn't given him credit for what he's done and I don't think he's been at fault for goals we've conceded.
Simon is the last source to turn to for knowledge on ballers
When everyone is fit again for us, I’d still start Spence. He’s been solid. Same with Gray who has been downright amazing covering so many position out of his natural midfield. Deserves an opportunity in his natural position.
It’s who we are mate
How original
Losers!
@@michaelkennedy3372it’s who he is mate😂
Now put a shrimp and the barbie and Sheila will get you a fosters okay
YEah because a former arsenal player and fan of the club is gonna be honest about how to improve. He is just putting pressure on because he knows ange is a good coach and he doesnt want him there
For someone who hates to lose he sure likes to repeat a losing formula!
Except it's not is it? He wins half of his games and has Injuries. I bet you wish your shite club could play as good as ange.
What formula works when you have 10 players out and the team you’re fielding played 3 days earlier?
@@HazXbox I'm literally a spurs fan you spud.
@@HazXboxlol we lose almost 50% of our games and have had our worst start to a prem season in like 15 years. Tell me how this is a winning formula
@@HazXboxbro you’re bragging about winning half your games. Yeah and that gets you mid table 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I don’t understand what he doesn’t get, no one is asking to completely change just have some street smarts when defending and the game is going in a certain direction, like scoring before half time when 2-0 down its basic maths. His attitude stinks when being interviewed about this.
You don't understand what he doesn't get? - actually you do! He doesn't get it because he has never been involved in football at a top level. He simply doesn't understand football. While you, who may only be some punter - does.
He's an idiot who doesn't understand he's an idiot...
We may not have won, but the way we were setup made it easier for Slot to know how to approach it. Even Salah said he knew how we'd play. The Wolves coach last year came on Sky and gave an insight into how they beat Spurs and they did the same thing twice! Ange is too predictable, teams knows how to counter his tactics and it's so easy just to play long balls in behind the full backs into that space and to counter attack on us, as we overload our attack.
They know we won't change oir approach, we don't cross high into the box, always low crosses or cut backs. Solanke doesn't get into the box that much, we don't vary our play by speeding it up and slowing it down or go long/direct sometimes. The passing out from the back doesn't suit the players we have, unless we have our first choice players, so playing that style regardless will lead to mistakes and cost us goals and points. He needs to adapt, he needs to protect certain players and in moments where you have players out, you can't play your normal way, as it will cost the team. Injuries are an easy excuse, nobody was using that when we beat City, Utd or Southampton. He's making the players look worse than they are. I feel sorry for Forster and Gray. Porro isn't a right back and I'd rather see Spence at right back and Porro right wing, keep Kulu in the centre. Try Reguilon at left back or adjust the team, go three at the back and put Dorrington in there or Davies, when he's back, to help with the high line and to defend the space left ny our full backs.
He demands a winning mentality and then employs tactics that will inevitably lose the match.
If you know what tactics win games where is your premier league job? How many cups have you won? Surely if its that simple you can beat premier league clubs by threes and fours because then youd be at least as good a premier league manager as ange
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Exactly. Remember last season when he attempted to gaslight every single person in the Tottenham institution including the fans by crafting this false narrative that he was the only person who wanted to win that city game. Yeah that was also after he’d just lost four league games on the trot too.
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@ Mate, I’m not going into the detail here, just the basic principle of not changing your tactics regardless of opposition is clearly not a good thing. You just don’t;t have to be a winning manager to see what Liverpool were going to do to that Spurs setup.
9 goals in 2 games is crazy.
Ange never changed cos he's stubborn & arrogant
13 in 3 including chelsea
7 goals scored isn’t bad either tbf. Also won one of the two games
@oufc90 what's the point if you conceded twice the amount
@oufc90 if you score goals but consider more then you score, then is a problem.
Is not about winning about how you win ( the gap )
@@lionheart34299 isn’t twice 7 mate. But let’s be honest Spurs weren’t a club winning anything before Ange so might as well play entertaining football, no? Also you’re still in with a shout at Europa League, League Cup, and even the FA Cup. As an outsider, Spurs are the most entertaining team to watch in the league at the moment. What manager would you want and do you honestly think anyone else would win the league with Tottenham? That hasn’t happened for over 60 years
I think the Spurs fans are loving it. At 1-5, no one left the stadium and nobody booed. And... they're now the highest goalscoring team in the league.... with a team full of injuries. They're functioning at 50%, and they're the highest goalscoring team in the league. God help us when they're at 100%
yeah god help us, might finish 9th
@@jonnyshadbolt899 or they might go on an almighty run and finish top 4
@@PigeonPair good one!
13 conceded at home last 3 games!
yeah god help everyone else they must be shittin themselves! hahahahaha
@@jasonfox4857 Are you not entertained? lol
We'll assess Spurs at the end of the season once we have seen how they have done in all competitions. Once they have a few players back, I'm sure they will start getting better results.
The problem isn't just this season, the problem is that this has been the status quo for the past decade now with no sign of changing.
Its true what Martin says for once you have to adapt on the fly on the pitch in every game 😊
Who has Keown EVER managed???? 20 years ago he was assistant manager at AFC Newbury and lasted just over a year......yeah lets everyone listen to what he has to say!
Postecoglu's demeanour doesn't instill any great confidence, hunched over, staring at the floor, spouting nonsense is not a good look! He thinks winning a title with Celtic makes him a good manager, utterly deluded!
@@stukavonferno8858 just to point out, he has also won the A-league, J-league and the Asian Cup when he was the Australian coach as well, and won 5 out of 6 trophies with Celtic.
@@jayfilmer2594and took over an 8th place, poor football playing team, deadwood squad and losing 30 goal a season Harry Kane.
Unfortunately, people think all that was fixed after the first 10 games of last season 👀
@@foodofdasoul agreed. Some of our fanbase are deluded thinking we could turn our clubs fortunes around in 18 months
Is he really that arrogant and disrespectful to the opposition? His circumstances with players out as he puts it is the exact reason why he should flip the switch and make a different approach so they stand more of a chance of better results. Proper fool Ange
So be negative,change shape and style and lose 2 nil instead in a boring game?
Nope you stick to a formula and find who works in that system and recruit accordingly.
You would be calling him out for changing his style and losing
@bartman Yeah but all you Ange lovers claimed Ange was gonna flush out and rebuild this team in the previous summer window. He gets three teenagers + solanke in, claims that’s the players he wanted and now he complains that he can’t win because of a depleted squad after he gets absolutely dismantled by a proper team. And he’s run everybody into the ground already but that’s because he won’t change as he so proudly says.
@@bartman01021988 mate you're in the bottom half of the league at Christmas. Isn't this the worst season ever in recent times? Wake up and smell the coffee.
The change of philosophy that he is trying to implement is bigger than the recent results. Even with everybody fit this squad is still short of 3 or 4 players. I can see what he is trying to do but he may not get the finances or the time to execute it.
@@shottskies who said an 8th place Spurs, that plays poor football and is about to lose a 30 goal Kane (as Ange walked in the door) would have it all fixed within 1 year? 🤔
Something tells me you told yourself that.
Livepool looked spectacular . Every attack loooked a threat . Klopp planted this tree and Slott has respected this, put his ego to one side . Tweaked things slightly and now watching it all grow
He has come in and improved them massively
@@bartman01021988 The Liverpool squad was already there as well as the style of play.......Ange has come in playing a completely different style and we have almost completely changed our squad.....which also included losing the greatest striker this club has EVER had.
Ngl if slot wins the league in his first season klopp will be looked at less favourable, atleast by me
@@gudiusthat's down to ignorance though. Klopp assembled all those Liverpool 2.0 players and would have likely won it last season if City (and Arsenal) had the same drop off. Slot is doing the same thing this season but his way.
@@gudius same
Nobody is listening to Martin Keown talking about spurs, he can go do one
He isnt in japan and scotland now
What he doesn't want to understand is the fact that the supporters that go to the games, both home and away, are spending a fortune each game. They don't want to be entertained like this. Yes we want to see attacking football but, we also want to see a team that can defend and not leak stupid goals like the two we gifted Man Utd last week. Ange has had eighteen months now, and things are getting worse not better. No sign of altering the system so therefore there is no sign of improvment. Did you notice the muted celebrations each time we scored on Sunday? I think the players are now fed up with this system of playing. He has to go and the sooner the better.
LOOK AT WHO WE ARE PLAYING AS DEFENDERS! Archie Gray ffs!
The muted celebrations were because we were down 2-0 and then 5-1 when we scored. No team runs around celebrating when that's the state of the game.
Sorry why is everyone and media digging out Spurs loosing 6-3 ?? Far worse than that was Man Utd getting spanked 3 nil at home by little Bournemouth
Man U are 3-4 games in with a new manager, he has taken over an equally poor team and meeds to rebuild badly. Ange is 18 months in and is injuring his own players with backwards training techniques and losing games by refusing to react to in-game situations. Not really comparible but whatever floats your boat.
Ange is a total fraud, has been 100% found out by other managers so it is bizarre that Levi and half of your fans don't see it.
He said he’s not going to change his approach and his approach isn’t working…
Name another team that could compete against Liverpool with 10 players out?
@@sma5605 then try and defend, play on the counter attack, do something!! Don’t try and go head to head with them when you’ve got 10 players out! You’ll never win
@@sma5605 spurs were always going to lose that game but to concede 6 is not acceptable
@@Bert-lw1otand had he done that (how most clubs play against Liverpool and lose)and been negative and lost 2/3 nil you would be here saying he might aswell have gone for it as it was a free hit with the players out.
Great style of play and he simply needs backing in the transfer window
@@bartman01021988 no I wouldn’t! What he did probably wouldn’t have worked with his best team playing! Awful tactics, far too easy to play against
Harsh for SJ to say Spence is Miles off it at this level
He's talking nonsense there. Not sure he has watched Spence play since we signed him a few years ago. Clearly he has learnt from his time in Rennes and Genoa in particular, he's improved.
@@andrewfineberg2397 Well said. Worked hard to get back in the fold. Looks fairly decent to me.
Yeah. Spence looks like a proper player. You can tell some people just don’t watch ball like that.
@@theimmaculated6480 💯💯✅️
Spence has impressed and I like him more than udogie
Keown’s spot on, Angeball has ruined VDV’s hamstrings.
VDV had hamstring injuries before he joined spurs 🤷♂️
So we thought, ooh if he really wants ruining him he’s should join us
No he was wrong as VDV had HS I juries before he came to Spurs. To suggest that previous HS injuries are caused by Anges playing style is well........Wrong!
He had hamstring injuries but not at this rate it's obvious the style of play is affecting him
No VDV hamstring injuries are a part of his physical make up. He suffered before Spurs
If you´re up against teams like Liverpool, who are top of everything atm, facing injuries on key players, you can not play the way you do in other games mate - you will get punished badly...and that´s what happened last night. Spurs got a whipping at home and actually they where lucky it stayed with 6 goals conceded, it could of been 10. YNWA 💪
But U have to get 2nd rate player in as well, no point teaching them different formations to fill the void
Ange is out of his depth
Liverpool took the foot off the gas so don't be fooled by Spurs scoring 3. As Liverpool could and should of had 10 goals! 😅
He's not a good a manager - he's somebody who doesnt understand the game! He has just put together some tactics that he himself clearly doesnt understand and that has been putting us under huge pressure.
How many snowmen do u think Martin drew up this morning in his coloring book
The only reason he had so much success in Scotland was corrupt refereeing and media hype.
…… are you a Rangers fan by any chance ……😴!?
How do you make that out....🤔
@@frankrourke475 Duh.......... I'm not sure ...............it must have been my fantastic intellect!👍
The usual guff Ange will never change his principles or tactics he will live by the sword or die by the sword I applaud the man he doesn't bow down to anyone no wonder he's fed up listening to twonks.
His tactics win games. The team has too many injuries. These peanuts can’t see it.
Keown is spot on
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As a neutral...and as someone who actually admires what Ange is trying to do...yesterday was a step too far for me....
Never seen a game with SO MANY 3v2s and 4v2s ....Liverpool coupdve scored 10 easily and considering the injuries Spurs had they were lambs to the slaughter playing that way.
It's because Angeball is flawed and easily exploited. Liverpool just baited the press, and then played through the Spurs midfield like they were nothing. Once the first press is beaten, Spurs are always wide open. He also likes to play single pivot, so Bissouma always needs to cover 2 players, causing him to play badly and gets the flak for it.
I don't know how many matches Ange needs to lose before many of the Spurs fanbase will finally wake up. In the end the main problem is not Ange, but the people who decided to hire him.
So the Postecoglou philosophy is " even a broken clock is right twice a day "?
Meanwhile they drop points on a regular basis and won't even reach the top four by the end of the season.
Fair enough, it's nice to watch attacking football, but it's even nicer to watch an overall team playing and reading the game in all areas, and demonstrating
their awareness of how the game is progressing, and what areas need tightening up as they proceed.
I quite like to watch Spurs play now and it would be great if Ange won a cup this season. The results are crazy but Spurs have tried everything else and not won anything. A little bit of craziness is not the worst thing for a season or two.
Yeah we could have beaten Ipswich and palace . And in a few weeks it will be two more teams we didn’t beat. We will end the season with nothing because his tactics are not sustainable and he has not game management .
Ange is a clueless prat. I fully agree with Keown our injuries are related to the constant high line and chasing shadows. Get him out!
They weren't expected to win with depleted squad against a top of the league team at almost full strength and an extra day's rest. There were 2 boring 00 games during the round, guess what game I'd rather watch. Stat wise - Spurs has the most goals atm - with only the top 3 teams having a better GD. They don't have a gun striker (Madison has 8 of their 39 goals & Salah has 15 of their 37 goals), which shows that Spurs scoring is more of team effort. As a manager if your best scorer gets injured or goes cold you are at high risk, Man City has seen this with Haaland going cold. Ange is trying to build a winning team but is struggling due to injuries. This was their biggest loss and they still managed to score 3 goals. Previous to this they only ever lost by 1 goal. Just be happy you were entertained.
Hes clueless playing this football without vdv and romero at centre back. You must adapt and drop back more hes an idiot. Ive tried to back him but not more im done with this manager fed up its how we losing. This is the prem not spl ffs
It is even more surprising that Arteta has spent nearly £700 million on players since taking charge, with the most significant investment being the £105 million acquisition of Declan Rice from West Ham. Despite this substantial outlay, he has yet to secure major titles such as the Premier League or the Champions League during his tenure as manager.
It’s actually closer to 750m spent. But you’re right, Keown always holds other clubs to a higher standard than Arteta.
Didn’t he win FA cup in first season ? That’s more than spurs have won in 16 years 🤔
Just a reminder Spurs are now TOP goal scorers in the Premiership- till yesterday they had 3rd best Goal difference. Spurs cannot rotate in ALL areas not just defence! They cannot rest players - Citeh have 3 people out Spurs have 11 . Spurs beat them twice and at Citeh. Four players on Spurs bench are kids some still go to school - literally! Three defenders are new to premiership and are 18,19 and 21 and of course goalkeepers having a nightmare. It’s not the tactics it’s exhaustion! It’s better to keep playing the same system if you change it, it could be even worse! They sacked the head of the medical staff who’d been there 20 years - mistake?
Posta no clue
1-0 or 6-3 is a loss, so let Ange do his stuff and be patient .
Then, criticize him all you like.
One trick pony he doesn't listen
I disagree. I think we did right trying to give ourselves a chance. With 3 defenders and the goalie out we still can only field the ones on the pitch last night. Even if we would have had a more defensive approach, Liverpool would have still roasted us. If you look at the first two season with Klopp, Liverpool had the same issue. Same with Spurs to a certain extent under Poch. A lot of injuries with a more intense playing style. But, the the club needs to give him funds to get more experienced players in. We need a bigger and better squad, but we have so much exiting youth and finally we are playing some great football at times. Spurs would be crazy sacking this man now. Trying to have a go at Liverpool at home in a game you are underdogs is not a big deal.
Talksport love talking about Ange, absolutely in love with him. Two first choice centre backs out, how would arsenal handle no Saliba and Gabriel?
It's not that Spurs lost or conceded goals, it's the manner of the defeat. Liverpool could have scored more than 6 yesterday, and even with first choice CBs out, that's not an OK performance to have at home
Lets look at the facts:
Spurs played a full strength Liverpool team who are an incedibly polished squad at the top of their game and arguably the best team in europe atm.
Spurs have a squad depleted by 10, a makeshift back line consisting of: Forster (back-up keeper who cannot play with his feet nor is quick enough to play the essential sweeper role), Grey (an an 18yr old natural midfielder), Spence (only 2nd PL start), Dragusin (only 22 and not quick enough in the system) Poro (not a defender but more importantly, Knackered).
The fact that we had one less days rest than Pool and due to injury had to play the same team as Thurs meant that the whole team looked jaded and as a result were second best to every ball.
Take nothing away from a brilliant Liverpool team who have had years to develop but we still managed to put 3 past "the best defence in the league". Would they have put 6 past us if we were at full strength (1st team, squad depth, freshness etc)? Unlikely. Would we have scored at least 3 goals? Goes without saying as we scored 3 depleted.
Would we have won? Who knows 🤷🏾♂️.
What l do know is that I'm happy with the attitude of the players and the direction in which we are moving under Ange. Provided he's backed by the board, Spurs will be riding high in the next couple of seasons, playing some of the most attractive footie known. The key to any solid build is backbone and patience. Let's grow one and exercise the other.
COYS!
Excellent synopsis. At 3-5, Allison made a fine save to prevent 4-5. Fine margins make the difference sometimes. Stick with Ange, he's the best manager Spurs have had since Redknapp.
You missed one key point. Even with all your defenders fit, you would have lost. Reason being Liverpool are a better side and Spurs nor Ange engender confidence. Especially among it's fan base
I couldn't agree more, im already bored of reading people slating yesterdays performance when in fact i thought spurs played with everything they had and even the commentator said at 85th minute "spurs are still playing like there is something in it" . I feel like most of these negative comments are based off of zero facts and a highlight video.
The Liverpool squad was already there before Slot came in as well as the style of play.......Ange has come in playing a completely different style and we have almost completely changed our squad.....which also included losing the greatest striker this club has EVER had.
It was a bad performance because they were set up bad, that's on the manager.
Spurs will win today for sure. They always turn up at the City Ground
The most baffling thing about this situation in Spurs is that the fans love it, and they think it's entertaining. They've got a beautiful stadium, state of the art and it's full every match and they score goals and lose a lot of matches. it doesn't matter; they're entertained. A win to a Spur's fan is seeing Arsenal their arch enemy losing. Nothing is more satisfactory to Spurs than see Arsenal fall. Winning trophies? What's that? They're not interested in that lifestyle. the mentality of the club is the problem. But they don't care. Why are you trying to change people who aren't interested in changing. This isn't Chelsea where you lose three in a roll, and they start discussing your firing. At Spurs, you lose three in a roll with the entertainment element, your job is safe.
best comment i've read so far
I'm not sure what Simon was watching regarding Spence🤔 Spence has been solid, goal 3 & 5 was down to Dragusin stepping out & not winning the ball, Spence duels & passing showed how good he did against Salah, Salah's goals were tap ins due to Dragusin going AWOL
Alex Ferguson once said that attackers win matches but defenders with championships. No-one is suggesting we go back to the dog days of Mourinho and Conte, but we have the strikers to do the job (look at the clinical finishing of Sonny, Deko, Johnson and Solanke). We need to stop leaving ourselves open. The high defensive line along with ball watching and getting on the wrong side of counter-attacking opponents. Both of these things are a problem. As the guys said, our central defenders are greyhounds who are inevitably prone to hamstrings and strains as they try to recover. Unless you have a reserve team full of substitute greyhounds, like Van der Venn, you are going t be left short.
Arrogance.
It isn't even a matter of changing your approach.
It's about being better!
They're utterly awful 70% of the time and he accepts no responsibility for it.
its simple your playing top of the league, got injuries in central areas, Young Archie at center back, Liverpool best team on transitions, just play deeper and more compact. Love Ange but leave your ego at home mate
Shocking! Not the football! The arrogance of this manager is astounding! Spurs fans yet again being delusional! He’s out of his depth with owners that just don’t care!
Liverpool took their foot off the gas! Conceded 3!
Don't U rate the injuries loss.. hardly had any fluency all season..get a grip
Spuds had half a team but still put 3 past Liverpool.
Yes cos we took the foot of the gas, the secret line flattered the spuds, it should have been 3-10
Ange is not a coach he is philosopher. Arrogant ad stubborn
Ange is arrogant a disgrace and needs to go
Keown showing his arsenal loyalty everytime. I wonder if he would be this angry with them if arsenal were top and tottenham second..
Its like asking asking a defensive manager to get his team to play tactical football,wont happen,but i believe his days are numbered with that mindset
It's not him..if Conte, Mourinho, Poch, and Nottingham forest coach couldn't. Them who can achieve anything at spurs
They should have stuck with Nuno.
@@stevejam767 no just no
@@stevejam767 they never gave him a proper chance from the start, was weird
I remember Ang stating.. when he looks in the market for good players.. he looks for players moving up divisions ccapable of evolving and adapting quickly to there environment....
This should apply to himself
Any half decent player should be able to make in game adjustments without the managers input, instead they take the managers instructions as gospel no matter how the the game is going and use it as an excuse
The whole league is high press. Attackers are defending. Ridiculous
You are a dinosaurs
Spurs had the third best defence going into the Liverpool match. They also have the best attack in the league. This suggests his tactics are working.
Yet the idiots in the panel won’t talk about that.
And they are 11th after 17 games. Does that suggest his tactics are working? Is that progress?
@ If it wasn’t for all the injuries they would easily be top 3.
Interesting point from Keown talking about Spurs’ senior players taking ownership. There are no real senior players now, especially after the main one’s are injured or out on their feet and that’s all thanks to this woeful ownerships penny-pinching squad management.
I'm amazed with the coverage spurs are getting, some fans giving them a pass because they are supposedly entertaining, believe it or not you can play entertaining football and have a proper defensive structure also , this is camazie football
‘We’ve got a few injuries so we’re gonna concede 6 goals and there’s nothing we can do about
It - it is what it is’ - awful, he doesn’t have long left
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Great one Martin, “they need to do better on the training pitch?’ Sorry Martin, don’t you understand we have our 3 best centre backs out, we had an 18 year old midfielder playing there instead, we had our reserve right back playing as left back in only his 2nd premier league start, we have our gk out, we have Bentancur out too. Liverpool rested most players on Wed. Spurs players are shattered. If we had sat back they would have still got 6 but we would have got a big 0. I really hope they give Ange time and that he succeeds.
Like carra says you dont win titles playing like that. Klopp did but he made adjustments. At first we were wide open at the back then we got van dijk and paired him with gomez. Both lightning quick so we could leave space in behind and catch the likes of mbappe who they played early on. The other time it didnt work was when we got beat 7-2 by villa. The press was a yard or two off that day all over the pitch we arrived at the ball late, villa had time on ball with no pressure and space in behind and exposed us and scored 7 goals. Liverpool fans know how you win the title playing like that and your press has to be absolutely spot on with everyone going at the right time and noone diving in and getting played past and then you have to be lightning quick at the back so you can recover if it goes in behind. Tottenham dont have the players to play like that and theyre not good enough. Hes treating rhat tottenham team as if hes got van dijk and rio ferdinand at the back in their pomp and klopps dortmund or liverpool midfield press and then the best front 3 in the world
Martin is right. Forget his Arsenal connections. It's clear that Ange only has one way of playing. it is NOT WORKING! he has to change!!
Hi, Coach of team Tottenhan: I have been watching your Tottenham team games for the more then 1 year and saw that that day you defeated team Manchester City 4-0. I suggest that you all keep this player's position in the future, Especially : H. Son , Solanks and D. kulusevski must be in the forward, J. Maddison in the middle, ( I suggest it again : J. Maddison have in the middle !!! Not at the forward ?! Because he has the ability to help the forward players score and can also help the defenders defend.) P. Porro in the back...,. When you lined up the players in the same position as that day, You also won game.
Liverpool manage to change there style multiple times in a game 😂
Keown talking like he could have walked into the situation Ange walked into, and now with 15 players out of a 25 man squad, and do a better job than Ange.
Never managed, but he's an expert
If we'd have sat back and tried to defend and grind out a low scoring game against one of the best teams in Europe it wouldve been 6-0.
We put 4 past City with a lot of key players injured, not long ago, we put 4 past Villa at home.
Like Ange said its a rebuild, and rebuilds take time.
As a supporter of Spurs, i'd much rather go through what we are going through now, playing the way we do, than sitting back fearing teams like we have done for the last 20 years.
Look at Man U, huge budget, multiple managers and they are worse off now than they were 10 years ago.
Our second half of the season after Janurary will be very different when we have 23- 25 players to pick from and rotate again.
Look at the table, 7 points off of 4th with 21 games to go.
1000% THIS!!!!
Man you living in some kind of dream world.
Using wins against city and villa to justify us being 11th in the table, consistently struggling to beat top half teams over a 12 month period, most players regressing, and the manager refusing to adapt anything.
But because we got two good results you ignore all that? Pathetic
@@Masterful100i see you ignored the point about being 7 points off top with 21 games to go.
Im not happy about being 11th either, but you have to break eggs to make an omlette. Either we choose to sack up and be 'supporters' through tough periods, or we cry as soon as it gets tough.
If the impatient fans keep crying and Ange gets sacked, we'll be back to where we were when he walked in, and we'll again go through what United are going through now, manager after manager and no better off, guaranteed.
Or we all stop panicking, get a full strength squad back and see how it pans out from end of January onwards.
@@jayfilmer2594 we wouldn't be back to where we were when he walked in.
The squad is much younger now and more easily mouldable for a new manager. They are also used to and have been signed to play an attacking, pressing style and presumably we would bring in a manager that plays that style but with better tactical nouse and defending eg. Iraola. So the transition would be easier than going from a conte/mourinho squad full of deadwood.
We have forest, Newcastle and arsenal in our next 5 I think. Leave it till end of Jan we'll be 10-15 pts off 4th if we stick with ange
@@Masterful100 yeah, couple of fair points there. But what quality manager, thats currently available, would want to join Spurs AND get us to the top and win things?
We've had Champions League and Prem winning managers before, and they didnt win us anything
Keown is the absolute best in the business
"Spurs smashed 3 goals past them", yeah but lets not forget Liverpool stopped playing with their food at 5-1
The Arsenal ex-player 1-0 specialist talks down the Spurs coach. tbh 3-6 goals look bad. But it is worth remembering that 1-3 scores zero points too. So shutting up shop then would've been stupid. Once at 1-3 if they were to score at least 2 goals (to get a point) they must take chances. For my job I deal in probabilities all the time. A modern manager knows that even if probabilities mean Liverpool are more likely to score more goals than Spurs, it also means playing openly gives Spurs a greater probability of scoring the 2 goals needed than if shutting up shop. ie It's worth taking a chance as 2 goals would've put them 3-3 and got themselves a point. They did get the 2 goals, but unfortunately Liverpool got another 3.
Please let the Spuds be Spuds. These brainless “fans” believe Ange is their dream maker.
He’s so good for the media
They love talking about Ange
Hahahaha
Would tottenham have won that game playing like conte or mourinho? The need for conservatism ingrained in british culture is really fascinating to watch play out. People are so outraged by a style that doesnt fit in with their beliefs
Would Liverpool have beaten Spurs yesterday playing Ange's tactics?
@@seanconcannon7922exactly
Lol wake up.
People are outraged by a year of poor results as a result of the style of play.
If it worked there wouldn't be the criticism.
@@Masterful100 Before Slot came in the Liverpool squad was already there as well as the style of play.......Ange has come in playing a completely different style and we have almost completely changed our squad.....which also included losing the greatest striker this club has EVER had.
@@seanconcannon7922yes, probably. They have better players
Holding midfielder they need. Bissuma is careless on the ball.
People can say what they want but that how the manager will play, why nobody even saying that the team is not the finished article, the team play that way changing the approach fir Liverpool is just sending the wrong message to the team, and the reason the scoreline was 6-3, was because of the approach the team could have lay down at 5-1. The team is not the finished article, Ange will be judged at the end of the season simple. And Simon Ange his kit telling people he wins in his 2nd season he was just stating a fact.
Who has a 2nd team?
I supported Liverpool for 55 years and never, not once had a 2nd team.
No team fears playing Spurs because they know they're gonna score against them... Spurs may score a 100 goals but they're gonna concede 150 goals that's for sure.. How can anybody be this stubborn and blind at the same time... Even the best teams around the world is going to concede many many goals with the way Ange Postecoglu play his team... Playing out from back with a GK who's not good with his feet and so high backline , its a miracle Spurs didn't concede 10 against Liverpool it was just 6
Someone needs to take a look at themselves, but it ain't AP!
Liverpool conceded 3 goals to a depleted Tottenham team and dropped 4 points in previous 2games calm down about the Liverpool winning the league,your about to see the worst blander in league history.
Kewon: "A very good Liverpool team", imagine if that was Arsenal in first at the moment he would be drooling and calling several Arsenal players world class with Arteta being the second coming of Pep Guardiola.
You’re nitpicking they are doing great this season but only 3 points better off after the same amount of matches last season. It’s a good season for them but it looks even better because everyone around them is inconsistent
Just to be clear, he called Liverpool a very good team…and you’re crying about it because he hasn’t praised them enough?! 🤣🤣
Keown has always been embarrassing if it was his team he will use many excuses they are best in the league we had injuries this & that to make him feel better look at his team ATM it's even worst for them title pretenders 😂😂😂
@@Bert-lw1ot What im saying is if it was Arsenal with a 4 point lead in the premiership, on a 22 game unbeaten run and being on top of the CL table then yes he would be screaming it through the rafters with the greatest praise he could muster.
@@alexischristou3266 even when you get praised, you’re finding a reason to be the victim! 😂😂
Man saying "Us" and "We" too much, it's you "Mate", and you alone...
There's a reason Martin is not coaching/managing a premier league club .... 😮
Simon spot on with Maddison 😅
"Not many teams score 3 against liverpool mate " 😂
The man is out of his depth . It's not his fault , its Levy's , for appointing him , cheap option .
Spurs scored 2 of those goals because Liverpool put their slippers on and sat on the sofa at 5-1
League position don’t lie. Ang needs to take responsibility more I believe. Journalists, fans are there to challenge his decisions. I was a big fan of Ang to begin with but now it feels like he reckons he’s being a ‘victim’. Ang - do some more defensive coaching pal !
Should have been 10 mate
Spurs might be happy with just trying to get back in the game but a cleansheet is just as better
Don’t be too critical mart we’re all loving this.
Keown slams Tottenham....surely not!?
Where was Wenger's game management when 4-0 up at Newcastle?
As a neutral i love watching spurs ❤ everyone's second team along with Newcastle
Why not criticize Pep and Manchester City poor performance?
Ange the PE teacher.
He said we was tired as had 3 games in 7 days with a depleted team