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@Beta 7000 The film isn't about comic book Peter. Trust me, i understand and sympathize with you wanting a more faithful arc for a character you care about. But as a film, and as an arc for a character that's been mostly consistent across 4 of them, it's fairly well done. The "subversion" of the quintessential superhero blockbuster is done to great effect, how it uses Mysterio's fundamental theme of illusion to do so is just short of amazing, and aside from some cheap grade school humor Far From Home is more than a competent film.
@Beta 7000 you can go ahead and say you don't like this spiderman but 1. You need facts about this false spiderman and 2. People like you can't can't beat 800 millions of fans(still growing)of spiderman ffh. If you are such a weiner go back and watch GHOSTBUSTERS 2016.... spoiler alert sony mad it.😜😜😜😜😜
"Beck is living proof that in order for a villain to be effective they don't need to be powerful or larger than life. All they need is to be obsessively motivated." Like Zemo.
I am certain Beck is still alive. He’s been shown to be a good actor and at the end you don’t need machines to act dead. Peter asks Edith if it’s real. Edith says no illusions are running. No illusions are needed to play dead.
Mechanic Gopher people forget that Fury also faked his death, also by a gunshot, and also with his body lying around, in Winter Soldier. All with a toxin that could easily be treated by a team of pros, all that Beck has.
And let's not forget: right after Thanos in Infinity War, Mysterio is the second villain to actually win. He died sure but he fucked up Spider Man reputation and Peter's life. Really curious about where they will go from there
Technically, Zemo was the first villain to win in the MCU. In Civil War, he successfully split up the Avengers, turning them against each other. All that work with no Infinity Stones or drones (Just realised that rhymed).
@@jeremiahbooth423 Good point! Truthfully, Tony and Cap weren't on talking terms at the beginning of Infinity War so yes, Zimo had a lasting impact on the gang. Nice rhyme too xD
Mysterio is also an expert at faking his own death, and his team is pretty much alive, so I'm guessing there is still chance he appears as a villain later. As for Spidey, well he need to clear his name first, make some friend with journalist, I think
Mysterio would technically be 4th because of 1. Zemo broke up the Avengers 2. Surtr destroyed Asgard 3. Thanos wiped out half the population Then it's Mysterio
Mysterio was the best character to do that switchoff. "Oh man they did the plot twist where a good guy was a bad guy, so cliche!" "Which character? "Mysterio." "You're an idiot."
And this works because in the comics, the skrulls are the bad guys, but that not being the case was a plot twist in Captain Marvel, so the idea of a comic villain being a movie hero is already an idea that is possible in your head.
@Meta I mean it’s not though, really. Spider-Man movies are traditionally more personal, since Idk if you noticed but Peter is a teenager, who deals with teenager problems along with the responsibility of being a superhero. And just because an action scene has a personal focus and effect doesn’t mean it’s not an action sequence. Honestly, usually I like Filmento’s vids, but here he got it completely wrong. We weren’t lied to, he just had outlandish expectations going into this film that were (obviously) not fulfilled. And the movie was still very good, even if it wasn’t what you were expecting, so he really has nothing to complain about here.
Isn’t this how Peter Parker is in the comics? He is a small hero doing incredible feats, but in the end it is more about his relation with his friends, family and how the world view him.
Yes, it's not about "Will Spider-Man defeat the Sinister Six???" but "Will Spider-Man defeat the Sinister Six before his curfew or else Aunt May could die from a heart attack?"
but WAIT THAT VILLAIN IS YOUR BEST FRIENDS FATHER or YOUR PRIZED MENTOR WHOME YOU LOOKED UP TO. All of Spider-Man’s villains are personal, but not in the sense that he created them like iron man or batman villains, but that they became villains and by stepping up to stop them he learns his personal relationship is more complicated.
That was actually perfect though and creates a similar feeling to what Peter feels when he finds out that he's also been lied to. Not only does it get us to believe that this is actually the super powered Mysterio despite all of his depictions just being him playing tricks tricks us as the viewer like he tricks Peter which is just so perfect. I remember thinking this movie sucks because it ruined my favorite character by taking away the point which is that Mysterio isn't a super villain at all but just a master of deception so when it was revealed that he not only was still the master of deception and was still a villain was great in the sense that not only did it stick to the source material but it also still managed to trick me into thinking he actually did have powers despite mysterio being known as the powerless master of deception.
"He's just a guy" thats what i love about Spidey's villains so far. They are just your every day dude. Vulture was a dad trying to make money off alien tech and was forced a certain way. Mysterio was a tech dude whos brain child was used by Stark and basically made fun of. They don't have powers or fighting skills.
@@shortbread1818 mysterio only wanted to kill Peter bcus of the drone and in the first movie vulture didn't want to kill peter(as I remember, haven't watched the movie in a long time)
ivi As Peter disrupted Mysterio’s plans more and more, his disdain for him grew. You can see it every time he realizes that Peter is the reason his plans are coming apart to the point that even in death he is trying to get at Peter by revealing his identity. He didn’t hate him because of a drone, he hated him because he was an absolute pain in his ass which is why most Spider-Man villains traditionally hate Spider-Man. Same with Vulture. Before the final fight in Homecoming, he tells Peter that if he interferes in Vulture’s plans again he will not hesitate to kill him. I personally think it’s way more interesting that Peter inserts himself into these dangerous situations that he doesn’t have to because it’s the right thing to do (great power and responsibility in action) instead of the villain always capturing Mary Jane or Gwen forcing Peter to act.
Mysterio is the studio thinking they are being clever but not getting the irony of it. Also, Mysterio being the villain is one of the more obvious cinematic twists in recent times. So much so it can hardly be considered a twist at all.
+[J Foster] It would, but only if Thanos could use them effectively, and for that he'd need to figure out what to actually target. With Mysterio vs. Thanos w/ Infinity Gauntlet, the gems aren't the deciding factor. The deciding factor is Thanos himself and how well Mysterio would be able to fool him. It's that way with any superpowered individual vs. Mysterio, actually. The superpowers or super-tech won't be the deciding factor, it's the ability of Mysterio's opponent to deal with mind games.
@Varun A that so called "awesome" movie had one of the cringiest teen romedy mixed with it.......why even call this a spiderman movie then if it isn't remotely similar in spirit to character loved by all. Hell, homecoming may have its faults but it still kinda stuck to essence of his character...... Maybe to a casual viewer it will be "awesome". But as someone who read the comics it annoys me a lot.
I was so curious how the movie was going to weave Mysterio's love of illusion and sfx into the movie. I was wondering "maybe he's using technology to make his energy blasts look more spectacular, more magical". I thought, "there's no need for his suit to have that much smoke." When that midpoint reveal hit I realized they had created the best version of Mysterio, someone so true to the character but also modernized. I mean *everything* was an illusion, a story, a lie. It was masterful.
@@lianbenedek9791 For real though, having 3-D CGI in real life would legitimately be *game changing.* It's no wonder Beck felt he deserved more, that's some next level tech with virtually limitless applications.
Dualtone He's Seto Kaiba. Except, instead of using his tech to enhance a children's card game, he put everyone in harms way to become a famous hero. lol
@@Tonbizzle JG did Quentin Beck so well that the retconned parts feel like a well fitting glove. I hope for more of him too. I wanna see him with the s6 and maybe somehow get tangled with Loki or Grandmaster or both~
Mysterio being a villian was actually super obvious for me, the moment i saw the trailer, because i watch spectacular spiderman when i was young and mysterio was the villan of talking about himself in the third person
My favorite motif of the story was spidey sense and it's representation of peter learning to trust himself. His indecision and self doubt are the inciting incident for the movie's primary conflict. It extends to every part of the movie. How Peter can't trust his instincts leads to the long, drawn out romantic kurfuffle. He gave up the glasses due to how he felt he could never live up to Starks legacy. The entire reason he was able to succeed at the last battle was that he listened to himself, and acted entirely on his insticts. The spidey sense is an extension of his self confidence, and framed how he grew into the man Stark knew he would be.
yhea... thought how did he destroy part of the city, before having acces to the stark drones... and that petter feel the water on him if everything is false... sound and touch would be all out of place... at the end it is and remain an empty Mc guffin chase....
i knew just enough about the comics to know the advertising was a lie, yet when i did finally get to see the movie, i was quite impressed by "the mysterio scene". the scene where the film makers had the creativity to do whatever they wanted with mysterio's powers. it wasnt the trip from movies like dr strange, but was over the top with a level of consistency and "real fakery".
roght I think the line I loved the most was the bullshit line of them being dimension-616 Since that isn't possible since MCU is Earth-199999, but anyone that doesn't know mysterio or knows foot deep information could be into tricked into thinking he isn't lying about dimensions and don't work it out in there head.
@@59hawks Basically me. I knew Mysterio wasn't a really powerful guy because I knew him, but I was like "Wait that is true? So maybe he have weapons better than illusion in the movies?" and it was a trick. That was clever as hell.
@@JustElleYapping i didnt read any of the comics, but marvel is big enough at this point where i can get some information through osmosis (or other media). Mysterio may only be a minor villain in spidey's rouges gallery, but knowing he is a part of it is enough to spoil the lie.
“Audiences surprised when villain known to fake being a hero turns out to be villain” “Audiences surprised that villain know for faking things fakes things in movie”
OMG true! 😂 I imagine that, if Mysterio _were_ real, he probably wouldn't need the cape. It was likely just added for the sake of more flashy design, rather than serving any real functional purpose. Which is totally in-line with Beck's character.
@@DLxxx considering that the only MCU heroes with capes are Thor and Vision, one is a god so is durable enough to survive the cape and the other can turn intangible so no problem
@moon bars his whole thing was illusions. When I said something similar to mysterio, I meant he would probably be using illusions... You’re not the smartest one are you 😐
@@morganwagner2259 You pretty much missed the entire point of the video so I wouldn't be judging who the "smartest one" is if I were you. Either way, it doesn't make someone less intelligent just because you failed to clarify what you meant.
Something I feel needs to be shared: THIS is a solid example of how you advertise a movie. Being a Marvel fan, I was already aware of Mysterio, in reality, being nothing but smoke and mirrors and was curious about how they'd handle turning him into a hero from another dimension. There was something cathartic for me about learning that they kept him the SAME. A complete and utter sham out for himself. XD You're right that if they showed Beck upfront, who he really is, the man behind Mysterio, this would NOT have made as much money as it did. It's great~
^This. I hate how Filmento just calls it a “lie,” and says it’s not an action movie just because Peter deals with some stuff normal teenagers do and because they threw in a subversion the *actually lead to some interesting developments and story* (here’s looking at you, TLJ). Just because he wasn’t expecting something, it’s now “awful that they would deceive us like this” and “it should not be considered a good movie.” What they did was raise excitement for the movie *without giving much away in the trailer,* something I’ve hardly seen any movie do but would like to see from more movies.
@@aaronmueller1560 But... He just said the truth and it was good writting. The movie it's not what everyone who doesn't know mysterio thought and this made the movie better for the idea of the character of Spiderman himself. That's why they made it look like a super stronger villain, that is why its a _perfect_ lie.
The worst enemy a human can get is not an alien, or a wild animal. It's human themselves. One thing that I love about the MCU Spider-Man and Toby Maguire Spider-Man is the fact that their villain acts the way a person would act. They don't want the world. They just want what matters to them. Human motivation is the most relatable to human after all.
This movie cemented the frustrations of Iron Man 3 critics who disliked the handling of The Mandarin. This is how you weave a lie around a big bad guy that doesn’t exist for your own profits. And this film actively made Beck and Mysterio believable within their character context. Instead of being an awful throwaway joke.
Yes, this version of Mysterio is still a recognisable Mysterio. Still a special effects genius using smoke, hypnosis, mirrors and holograms to fool his opponents whle trying to get rich/powerful. Still a guy with no real powers but what his trickery and tech give him. Sure, this one has better tech and a team of disgruntled ex employees to help him pull off bigger tricks and help with exposition, but he is still essentially the same kind of character with the same kind of powers. That is why it's so sad the Mandarin was treated as a joke instead of being reworked in some way. Even a "You caught my puppet but now face the real Mandarin" cliche would have been better than how it turned out.
@Nestor El demente and your H O B B I E is to start dumb arguments on the internet, also that late birth insult is legitimately offensive to people who actually had a late birth, I was simply giving you advice, and please be more mindful of others, also how come you said ‘lol answering comments is dumb’ when you did that exact thing, and then proceeded to do it to me twice, hypocrite much? As you can see I have ended this argument with relative ease, good day sir
I love how much more heart this movie had, it really felt like a comic book turned into a movie. it was silly, and emotional, and had weight to it, it was meaningful and i love how peter is maturing! also, the trailer didnt RUIN it for me, like i find most trailers do now awesome video, man!
I do like that they seem to be making Peter more reliant on his own genius throughout the films. Yes, he's still using Stark's tech for his suit in FFH, but everything he put in the suit was due to what he felt he would need, not what Stark put into it, like the first suit. I am hoping that if the contract continues past the next film, that Peter eventually realizes that he doesn't need Stark's tech anymore. Because that's one of Peter's best qualities in the comics. His self reliance. Depending on when you start reading his books, he's normally just a guy with minimal amounts of money, that uses his ingenuity to create his suits and gadgets, and still manages to survive. I do get the use of Stark's tech right now though, as he's just a kid with no way to create the things he uses in battle, but as he grows older, that needs to change.
War624 Seems to me like they're going to be going the route of "Parker Industies- Peter Parker" of Superior Spider-Man mixed with Amazing Spider-Man's "Everyone knows/post Civil War Peter Parker". Which kinda leads me to believe that Mephistopheles or someone just as powerful is in the future of the MCU.
We have to remember that they aren’t following the comics entirely. The current Spider-Man is more attached to Stark and Tony is and will be a big part of the character. Him using Tony’s suit but making his own improvements is really all that is needed in this current timeline. I just feel like nitpicking things like this that are easily understandable or supported just isn’t fair to the writers and won’t allow you to actually enjoy what you’re watching.
I disagree. I've seen the previous Spiderman movies and cartoons and this iron man influence is different. The classic version has a few different ways to solve a problem but access to Stark Tech gives him new options and new enemies. Tom Holland captures Spiderman's personality really well but the original storyline is what really sells it to me. I've seen the whole with great power comes great responsibility origin story with classic villains too many times. I want Spiderman to merge into the Ironman verse and the rest of the MCU and end up fighting someone else's rogue gallery. He could be their sidekick like black widow was to Captain America.
I agree. Although many would like him to keep the role of Spider-Boy, I wish he could grow into his own thing. Spider-MAN, the guy who has no money, no big bucks, no amazing power, no cool family, but still is beating the living hecc outta villains like Dr. Octopus and Green Goblin and is the most beloved hero in the world. Because being small, but growing to be greater... I can relate to that.
I liked how the movie showed Peter Parker as a high schooler and a kid still. He had to make a huge choice, one that kids dont have to make. But because of his powers, he HAS to choose the superhero life to defend others and those he cares about. This movie does an excellent job of that, and the way the movie went, I loved it all.
yeah, something that was missing in the first, homecoming is not a bad movie, they even saved one of the worst villains, but for the first solo movie it had some things missing, it wasn't personal enough until the second half and that is bad for a superhero movie, scpecially when he had already appeared in another movie
6:20 the villain for captain America civil war actually was human and had an amazing motivation, and was so motivated to destroy the avengers that he killed many people in order to do so
Beck says it. "Right now, people are willing to believe anything", even a guy coming from a parallel earth. I love how it's mocking the audience as well as a second meaning.
They turned probably the lamest and most unused, memorable but yet obscure, campiest supervillain and turned him into probably one of my favorite Marvel Villains ever, not even just in the MCU.
@@GaiusIntrepidus they can do it with their hero, they also can do it with their villain.. like nobody knew about guardian galaxy outside of comic reader before the movie came out, and somehow they make it good and interesting
when i watched it i was wondering why the actor of Mysterio is so bad at acting(it's somewhat cringy). I mean the way he talks and his behavior seems very staged. Only to realize that it WAS, in fact "staged". it was the plot
@@project6439 Look, I just found this channel today but guessing by the fact that the title has "Film Perfection" and the video is just him complimenting the movie, he just might be doing the opposite of what you think he's doing. See what happens when you assume?
The funny thing is that the movie does a really good job of tricking you at first. Beck's talks to spidey and his advice are both real. Because of the nature of the movies you easily suspend your disbelief for the big action scenes, even when the movie sprinkles clues in that something might not be right. Even though the fake hero is litterally Mysterio, you just assume "I guess this guy is different..." When the nightmare sequence for spidey against mysterio started, I basically said to myself "Why didn't I expect this? This is literally mysterio". It's because the movie is very cleverly written.
@@sarasthoughts That's only true for the first of a saga/trilogy/series. Any sequel, including the Toby McGuire Spidey movies, rely HEAVILY on what came before it. Spider Man 2 doesn't have the emotional or theatrical weight that it does if you don't see the first one, first. Still a fantastic movie, but better in the context with what came before it. To say Far From Home "isn't good because it doesn't stand on its own two legs" is not only an incorrect statement, but one that's just reaching for a reason to not like it, for some reason. It's an inaccurate, out-to-lunch view, just to have a different opinion.
One of the things I love about this movie is the teenage awkwardness; it's a small part of the movie but I think that every adult, can relate to it at some point in their teen life and it makes you want to root for Peter even more.
Mysterio literally says, "People will believe anything these days" a comment on both the people in the movie and us as an audience , who've gotten accustomed to seeing these threats in marvel movies
Mysterio has always been fake, and Spider-man has always been about the small, personal relationships around Peter Parker and not about Spider-man saving the world, but how Peter manages to live both lives.
I was legitimately worried on how they were going to make Mysterio a villain to take seriously, and how would his powers translate to movie Happy to say I was very impressed with how they handled him. I always felt he was a campy villain in the comics when I was growing up, but this movie did a great job conveying his ability.
Same. The thing that I find baffling is how people complain about mysterio being ruined because he has a grudge against Iron Man. That really feels like a tedious complaint given that it makes Mysterio essentially a foil to both Iron Man and Peter Parker if they chose to use their technology and abilities for merely fame and glory.
@Makuta S-V I do get it the first two times but if they go for number 3 then done and just No because can we have Spider-man and his villains be there own thing like how it was then being Iron man side characters. It really is disrespectful to Spider-man.
Makuta S-V lol as a giant mysterio fan your opinion is pretty pathetic . He’s been one of the best Spider-Man live action movie villain to this day. His core was the same . You raimi fanboys need to stfu and get over it. The core needs to be the same to be a good adaptation . Nolan’s Batman did that well and the mcu Spider-Man is doing that well.
OneYuDBZSlayers you mean making them smaller by showing that his villains and Spider-Man themselves are every men ? That they are street level living off the destruction and powers of the avengers level hero’s ? LIKE THE COMICS. Core is the same. Thank gosh being a big daredevil fan as well that fanbase isn’t as anal as you guys. The whole plot of daredevil season 1 is because of the avengers. If daredevil fans were like the raimi fanboys they’d bitch about him being reduced to just a clean up of the avengers (which is THE FRICKING POINT)
I loved Mysterio's portrayal in this film. I can only imagine how someone unfamiliar with his villain status experienced this film. Probably similar to how I felt reading those original Mysterio stories.
When the story seems to have resolved, and the movie seems to have passed _really_ quickly with a comically simple finale *Something's wrong, I can feel it*
"Beck is living proof that in order for a villain to be effective, they don't need to be powerful or larger than life, all they need is to be obsessively motivated." Love that.
Funnily that sort of happened in a Video game called Spider Man Shattered dimensions. "so this is what real power feels like, no more parlor tricks or slight of hands, Mysterio is now the Master of real magic and this is just the begining hahahaha"
“The battles aren’t real” Mehhhhh, id reason that having control over an army of drones that have the ability to cause damage reflected by the illusions mysterio is creating is a pretty real threat to me. The fact that mysterio is lie in every way is true the character and somehow they made him more threatening than most spider man villains. I’d argue to say he’s the most threatening spider man villain in a movie yet, considering the amount of firepower he had control of. It just seems like a silly premise to make out the move to be “fake” in terms of scale when it was the “lie” that was sold to everyone was actually just a setup for a great but natural plot twist that most of us, especially dedicated spider man fans say coming. I think a “larger scale” selling a point was an unplanned by product.
id say not showing the twist in any of the trailers, or even mentioning that Mysterio was a bad guy in any of the trailers, while showing lots of the action scenes would be evidence against it being unplanned. But i don't think there is any real way of knowing. Either way the movie was great.
A bunch of Tony drones would be a threat to normal people, but you saw how Spiderman tore through those things like paper, right? Thor could wipe it out in seconds. Hulk, lol, would laugh at them. Daggum Hawkeye and Nat could probably take them out. The drones weren't really a big threat in terms of these Marvel characters.
One thing that fascinates my mind, is that Mysterio can be revealed to be just a guy in a mo-cap suit... And that the audience not only accepts it, but more importantly knows what a mo-cap suit is... I'm just picturing the meetings where it was proposed. And no studio execs were worried that the suit would look silly and cheap for those who have never seen those grey suits and why they exist in the movie and game industry. Because, while it is obvious for the tech savvy viewers... To others it's just a grey spandex suit with whacky patterns on it straight out of a 60s Batman episode.
You missed the whole training montage, where mysterio was using the drones with machine guns to cause real damage. It’s not cgi. It’s drones with a cgi monster, with machine guns to cause the buildings to collapse.
My favorite set up and pay off in this film is definitely Peter learning to trust his spider-sense and in turn himself. Those kind of themes are what makes Spider-Man so great.
I Like how this film isn't the thing where the whole galaxy is at stake because in those films you can't grasp the stakes and the immersion is partially gone
@@tevcon317 yes, because of who drove the stakes up to that level of destruction, Thanos. Infinity war made him a threat, then a winnner. Endgame is all about beating him for good. Thanos actions and words had weight. Making the stakes believeable.
@@tevcon317 because we had gamora personal view involved, the scene where she told peter to kill her, he struggled to do so, then finally did, and it didn't work, is the real "i am inevitable" scene, and in he second movie the weight comes from the fact that they will not rewrite the story only bring the people back, so it will never be the same
The reason I am in love with this movie so much is because of how much is focuses on peter as a character. He is such a good character at heart and deserves a movie franchise that enhances this ❤ this is why everybody lost their shit when they thought sony was going to take it and ruin it 😭
The Train-yard sequence is my favourite part of that movie. It reminded me so much of the Spider-Man 2 video game when you fight Mysterio and was glorious and seemed so perfectly tuned to his character. Also I wasn't a huge fan of the previous mainline Spider-Man movie because I like the Peter that is a genius scientist and is experienced/developed enough to be the leader of the Avengers and Tony's suit felt like a good symbol of him being a child and having others protect him. This movie finally started to give me what I want in the character by having it be about him taking that position and making his own suit that he designs.
While I agree with you for the most part, I think it's worth pointing out that Peter was always a genius since his introduction in Civil War. There we learn he made his own suit, retractable goggles, web shooters, and most impressively, his web fluid formula. The most Tony did was upgrade on Peter's original designs since he had the funding and experience, which doesn't make Peter any less of a genius, it just further shows how poor and limited a real high school kid would be. Also, I believe Tony only rescued Peter once in the film, and had to cover for his and Vulture's collateral damage once as well. Every other threat in the film was one Peter neutralized himself. We see in FFH that if Peter really wanted to, and had access to better resources, he could've made a suit on the level of the one Tony made him.
As much as I dislike the design of the new suit, I'm glad too that he made it himself, so hopefully, he made one that closely resembles the classic suit more rather than something that's totally different.
@@DLxxx That's a good point but it's not highlighted very much in Civil War and it seemed dwarfed/downplayed by Tony and the gang. This movie really makes it clear that they are heading down the timeline for Spidey that I really liked.
I like the bit in this video where you mention that the stakes in this movie come from Spider-Man trying to control the damage and save people, because that's kinda the theme of the trilogy. Responsibility, making mistakes, sacrificing what he wants for others, and becoming a better Hero. All three "Home" films felt like dual purpose films, with the second purpose being setting up who Spider-Man is in the future. That was further reinforced for me at the end of No Way Home where Peter gets his fresh start in a rundown apartment with a homemade suit. It was like "there's 3 origin movies, NOW we can get rolling with Spider-Man stories" - I'm hoping the next couple movies will give us Spidey in NY fighting his classic villains.
This movie went back to basics, early anime and cartoon style villains, I love it. Not necessarily a basic character with no background, but in his basic coding is “Pure Fuckin Evil” Like Doom, it’s basic, but not so much that it’s generic or boring, it’s perfect.
Honestly it’s kind of sad. He’s so angry that they’re not what he wants to be that he refuses to see them as anything other than hollow imitations of what they were never trying to be. I do believe the second rami film is probably better than homecoming and far from home, but they’re completely separate from each other. I enjoy both films, I love Spider-Man, but just because I prefer one over another doesn’t mean the other is garbage. I pity him, really.
I said for years that mysteryo (however you spell his name) would be an awesome villain to bring to the big screen. I love the fact they finally did it and it was glorious.
My single favorite line from this movie and probably any modern movie period is when Beck says, “people tend to believe. And now a days, they’ll believe anything.” Which gets paid off in the post credits scene perfectly.
3:50 Yes, that dude. That dude with the glasses is Mysterio. He still lives, knows everything, has the tech. Perfect Heist! Beck is also an illusion made by the drones. The dude with the glasses made him die on the bridge. The greatest trick of the magician: leaving the stage.
"The mysterio we were promised was a lie" You don't know much about comics, do you? Mysterio was ALWAYS an illusionist. His whole shtick has always been messing with people's heads and playing with perceptions. That said. It was a very good video and perfectly sums up what makes this movie great FOR A GENERAL AUDIENCE... and even the comic nerds who could predict the plot a mile off.
Perhaps, bur the way it was marketed, and the way the character was portrayed initially promised a different Mysterio. Of course, people would still be able to find out his character in the comics, but there remained just a sliver of doubt to allow for the deceptions to work as intended.
Let's add to this. Mysterio usually pretends to be a hero in his first appearances in multiple mediums. Has these seem powers in some. And usually pretends to be a magic based character. What I find interesting is how they used the recently released at the time, spiderverse movie, to reinforce mysterio.
well the channel's called "filmento", not "comicmaniac". Of course he's gonna make a video from a general audience's perspective. If anything him not knowing about the comic makes this even better because it proves Marvel and Sony successfully portrayed Mysterio/Beck the way he's meant to be.
Your videos are a blessing to enjoying movies. I love your in depth and detailed critiques that don’t just say something is good or bad, but explains exactly why they are.
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What's the music at the end of the videos ?
@Beta 7000 you missed the point
Squarespace sucks donkey balls! Also, fuck off, you're not getting my money.
@Beta 7000 The film isn't about comic book Peter. Trust me, i understand and sympathize with you wanting a more faithful arc for a character you care about. But as a film, and as an arc for a character that's been mostly consistent
across 4 of them, it's fairly well done. The "subversion" of the quintessential superhero blockbuster is done to great effect, how it uses Mysterio's fundamental theme of illusion to do so is just short of amazing, and aside from some cheap grade school humor Far From Home is more than a competent film.
@Beta 7000 you can go ahead and say you don't like this spiderman but 1. You need facts about this false spiderman and 2. People like you can't can't beat 800 millions of fans(still growing)of spiderman ffh. If you are such a weiner go back and watch GHOSTBUSTERS 2016.... spoiler alert sony mad it.😜😜😜😜😜
I like how there's a superhero movie where the monsters are CGI in canon
Though Mysterio has always been more of a practical effects guy.
I used the CGI to create the CGI
@@lianbenedek9791 XD
#DeadpoolDidItFirst
Lian Benedek that was smart and funny
"Beck is living proof that in order for a villain to be effective they don't need to be powerful or larger than life. All they need is to be obsessively motivated."
Like Zemo.
Or Plankton.
Syndrome from the Incredibles
Or Killian being the mandarin. Very similar.
Kevin Thomas or Ra’s al ghoul from Batman begins
or zim
I am certain Beck is still alive. He’s been shown to be a good actor and at the end you don’t need machines to act dead.
Peter asks Edith if it’s real.
Edith says no illusions are running.
No illusions are needed to play dead.
Ah shit....
As Channel pup said you can't trust anything Mysterio dose that includes dying 😂
That is true but mysterio would have to probably shut down his entire body to hide that from E.D.I.T.H. although it might be possible with technology.
@@emperorpalpatine2070 EDITH answered Peters question. Peter didn't ask if Beck was dead.
Mechanic Gopher people forget that Fury also faked his death, also by a gunshot, and also with his body lying around, in Winter Soldier. All with a toxin that could easily be treated by a team of pros, all that Beck has.
"Iron Man and Thor rolled into one"
*Sad Dr Strange noises*
Nah, Strange is his own badass thing
Mr. Dr. is actually able to solve real problems, unlike mystery man here
Now I feel like I stole your comment 😂
@@TheNinthGeneration1 Thor and Iron man don't solve problems?
Turbo Gamer I’m saying compared to Mysterio, Dr. Strange is actually able to do stuff
And let's not forget: right after Thanos in Infinity War, Mysterio is the second villain to actually win. He died sure but he fucked up Spider Man reputation and Peter's life. Really curious about where they will go from there
Technically, Zemo was the first villain to win in the MCU. In Civil War, he successfully split up the Avengers, turning them against each other. All that work with no Infinity Stones or drones (Just realised that rhymed).
@@jeremiahbooth423 Good point! Truthfully, Tony and Cap weren't on talking terms at the beginning of Infinity War so yes, Zimo had a lasting impact on the gang.
Nice rhyme too xD
Mysterio is also an expert at faking his own death, and his team is pretty much alive, so I'm guessing there is still chance he appears as a villain later. As for Spidey, well he need to clear his name first, make some friend with journalist, I think
Mysterio would technically be 4th because of
1. Zemo broke up the Avengers
2. Surtr destroyed Asgard
3. Thanos wiped out half the population
Then it's Mysterio
@@jeremiahbooth423 No it was Ultron.
Mysterio was the best character to do that switchoff.
"Oh man they did the plot twist where a good guy was a bad guy, so cliche!"
"Which character?
"Mysterio."
"You're an idiot."
True😂😂
it was more of a switch when they were like he is a good guy cause i was like but he is the bad guy how is this possible
And this works because in the comics, the skrulls are the bad guys, but that not being the case was a plot twist in Captain Marvel, so the idea of a comic villain being a movie hero is already an idea that is possible in your head.
Ye I didn't see that coming at all
I mean isn't the whole point of the movie that everything IS a lie. The whole theme of Mysterio is lies
lol This is a marketing lie not a narrative fake out.
@Meta I mean it’s not though, really. Spider-Man movies are traditionally more personal, since Idk if you noticed but Peter is a teenager, who deals with teenager problems along with the responsibility of being a superhero. And just because an action scene has a personal focus and effect doesn’t mean it’s not an action sequence.
Honestly, usually I like Filmento’s vids, but here he got it completely wrong. We weren’t lied to, he just had outlandish expectations going into this film that were (obviously) not fulfilled. And the movie was still very good, even if it wasn’t what you were expecting, so he really has nothing to complain about here.
Meta You had no clue who Mysterio was when going into the movie did you?
Honestly. Before I'd even seen the trailer I knew it was gonna involve a fake out cos cmon why else would Mysterio be there? 9/10
@@RosesAmbience We all knew he was a villain. The lie is that Quentin Beck is actually a normal person.
Isn’t this how Peter Parker is in the comics? He is a small hero doing incredible feats, but in the end it is more about his relation with his friends, family and how the world view him.
Yes.
Yes, it's not about "Will Spider-Man defeat the Sinister Six???" but "Will Spider-Man defeat the Sinister Six before his curfew or else Aunt May could die from a heart attack?"
but WAIT THAT VILLAIN IS YOUR BEST FRIENDS FATHER or YOUR PRIZED MENTOR WHOME YOU LOOKED UP TO. All of Spider-Man’s villains are personal, but not in the sense that he created them like iron man or batman villains, but that they became villains and by stepping up to stop them he learns his personal relationship is more complicated.
Just a Friendly Neighborhood Spiderman!!
[directed by Quentin -Tarantino- Beck]
Yes, sony cheated by lying about this "alternate mysterio."
But in turn, Sony manage to properly portray comicbook Mysterio perfectly.
You mean marvel?
That was actually perfect though and creates a similar feeling to what Peter feels when he finds out that he's also been lied to. Not only does it get us to believe that this is actually the super powered Mysterio despite all of his depictions just being him playing tricks tricks us as the viewer like he tricks Peter which is just so perfect. I remember thinking this movie sucks because it ruined my favorite character by taking away the point which is that Mysterio isn't a super villain at all but just a master of deception so when it was revealed that he not only was still the master of deception and was still a villain was great in the sense that not only did it stick to the source material but it also still managed to trick me into thinking he actually did have powers despite mysterio being known as the powerless master of deception.
@@robl0xgamer258 no, sony, sony has the rights to making the movies
@@littlemisseevee2309 oh thanks for telling me, I keep getting confused over these things lol:p
A soul for a soul
“Reality can be whatever I want”
Thanos: “Prepare for trouble...”
Mysterio: “And make it double!”
*sigh* I can’t help but feel a small amount of disappointment, and a vast well of amusement that these two are now Jesse and James....
"To protect the world from overpopulation!"
"To unite all peoples within my nation!"
@@jaernihiltheus7817 "To denounce the evils with truth and love!"
"To extend our message to the stars above!"
So... Who's Meowth? That is the real question...
@@kerrychristensen7204 Loki
"He's just a guy" thats what i love about Spidey's villains so far. They are just your every day dude. Vulture was a dad trying to make money off alien tech and was forced a certain way. Mysterio was a tech dude whos brain child was used by Stark and basically made fun of. They don't have powers or fighting skills.
What annoys me is that they have something against Tony and Spidey seems really insignificant
The only thing I dont like about spider man villains in the MCU (movies ) is that they are againts Tony, so there's no personal stakes
ivi By the end of both movies I definitely got the vibe that both villains hated Peter more than Tony, especially Mysterio.
@@shortbread1818 mysterio only wanted to kill Peter bcus of the drone and in the first movie vulture didn't want to kill peter(as I remember, haven't watched the movie in a long time)
ivi As Peter disrupted Mysterio’s plans more and more, his disdain for him grew. You can see it every time he realizes that Peter is the reason his plans are coming apart to the point that even in death he is trying to get at Peter by revealing his identity. He didn’t hate him because of a drone, he hated him because he was an absolute pain in his ass which is why most Spider-Man villains traditionally hate Spider-Man. Same with Vulture. Before the final fight in Homecoming, he tells Peter that if he interferes in Vulture’s plans again he will not hesitate to kill him. I personally think it’s way more interesting that Peter inserts himself into these dangerous situations that he doesn’t have to because it’s the right thing to do (great power and responsibility in action) instead of the villain always capturing Mary Jane or Gwen forcing Peter to act.
"Who is that guy?"
"I don't know, but he's kicking that water's ass."
Disney is also keeping the theme that white people must be reduced to playing villains and no one else.
@@TheBelrick wtf did that have to do with this guy's comment?
@@ouroboros5793 placeholder of course.
@@TheBelrick Placeholder for what? Are you cracked? Or am I missing something
@@ouroboros5793 why are you uninterested in the fact that disney is blatantly racist and sexist against white men?
So not only was mysterio being a hero a lie, but the entire film was also a lie!? Did mysterio secretly direct this film?
If the film is a lie that means Mysterio was telling the truth 😯
Mysterio is the studio thinking they are being clever but not getting the irony of it.
Also, Mysterio being the villain is one of the more obvious cinematic twists in recent times. So much so it can hardly be considered a twist at all.
@@SmokeymcJoint420 mysterio being the villain wasn't the twist as much as how. All cgi was brilliant and unexpected.
Yes.
It all exists in the Joker's mind!
Thanos: Reality can’t be whatever I want.
Mysterio: Are you challenging me?
BSJ IN YO HOUSE
Mysterio: I CONTROL THE TRUTH!
Thanos: I am the truth.
Hmmm stones vs illusion tech?....
I’ll take Mysterio ;)
Mysterio hold my beer.
J Foster I think that was a joke man
+[J Foster]
It would, but only if Thanos could use them effectively, and for that he'd need to figure out what to actually target. With Mysterio vs. Thanos w/ Infinity Gauntlet, the gems aren't the deciding factor. The deciding factor is Thanos himself and how well Mysterio would be able to fool him.
It's that way with any superpowered individual vs. Mysterio, actually. The superpowers or super-tech won't be the deciding factor, it's the ability of Mysterio's opponent to deal with mind games.
This weird moment when you realize that he didn't bash the movie... he is actually explaining what makes it great
The title literaly says "film perfection"
@Ricky Shiffer No he said that was good story telling too
@Varun A that's a big fat NO. This is not the true Spiderman. We are basically watching the adventures of the Ironboy
@Varun A that so called "awesome" movie had one of the cringiest teen romedy mixed with it.......why even call this a spiderman movie then if it isn't remotely similar in spirit to character loved by all.
Hell, homecoming may have its faults but it still kinda stuck to essence of his character......
Maybe to a casual viewer it will be "awesome". But as someone who read the comics it annoys me a lot.
@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 this is his opinion. let him enjoy the movie u dumbfuck
And best line of the movie award goes to:
"YES SHANON I STILL NEED THE CAPE"
"I'm strong... and STICKY" Did we forget that one?
"C'mon Peter Tingle..."
"So you can dodge bullets but not bananas?"
Same vibes with, "Of course I want latte, I love the way you make them." by Jim Carrey in Sonic.
No Capes
I was so curious how the movie was going to weave Mysterio's love of illusion and sfx into the movie. I was wondering "maybe he's using technology to make his energy blasts look more spectacular, more magical". I thought, "there's no need for his suit to have that much smoke." When that midpoint reveal hit I realized they had created the best version of Mysterio, someone so true to the character but also modernized. I mean *everything* was an illusion, a story, a lie. It was masterful.
He used the CGI to create the CGI
@@lianbenedek9791 For real though, having 3-D CGI in real life would legitimately be *game changing.* It's no wonder Beck felt he deserved more, that's some next level tech with virtually limitless applications.
@@DLxxx that would be honestly amazing
Dualtone He's Seto Kaiba. Except, instead of using his tech to enhance a children's card game, he put everyone in harms way to become a famous hero. lol
@Vinicius Raposo oh spiderman 2. It reminds me of that.
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Spider-Man: Far From Home
Spider-Man: Homeless
Spider-man: Staying at home
Spider-Man: House Party
Spider-Man: House Arrest
Spider-Man: Home Alone
notahotshot
Brush the last one tho I'm done
Spiderman gone away
Spider-Man; the way home
Thanos: "reality can be what ever I want"
Mysterio: "hold my drone"
Mysterio: "Hold my cape"
Thanos: "What cape?"
Mysterio: "Exactly"
Stark's* boi😂 the drone was created by stark
Mysterio: Same lol
Nucularburrito2 there was a cape, it was just being steamed at that moment
Lol
It´s the perfect movie featuring Mysterio as a villain.
He is a fake, from start to finish.
He's so fake and so real and I want him to come back.
Jake Gyllenhaal was perfect as Mysterio
@@Tonbizzle JG did Quentin Beck so well that the retconned parts feel like a well fitting glove. I hope for more of him too. I wanna see him with the s6 and maybe somehow get tangled with Loki or Grandmaster or both~
@@Tonbizzle He will because of that cliffhanger ending
Mysterio being a villian was actually super obvious for me, the moment i saw the trailer, because i watch spectacular spiderman when i was young and mysterio was the villan of talking about himself in the third person
My favorite motif of the story was spidey sense and it's representation of peter learning to trust himself. His indecision and self doubt are the inciting incident for the movie's primary conflict. It extends to every part of the movie. How Peter can't trust his instincts leads to the long, drawn out romantic kurfuffle. He gave up the glasses due to how he felt he could never live up to Starks legacy. The entire reason he was able to succeed at the last battle was that he listened to himself, and acted entirely on his insticts. The spidey sense is an extension of his self confidence, and framed how he grew into the man Stark knew he would be.
I love this!! coming back from NWH, the bits with Strange, this is extra true
All of the "Mysterio Mind-Bending" scenes were so amazing at how scary they were.
@@xshxr I thought they were trippy as fuck...That's why I liked them so much, it showed how Mysterio REALLY got in Peter's head.
I agree I just thought they were genuinely so awesome
I had some kids in my theater who cried at the second one.I loved them.
Reminded me of Scarecrow scenes in Batman Arkham Asylum video game... '-'
yhea... thought how did he destroy part of the city, before having acces to the stark drones... and that petter feel the water on him if everything is false... sound and touch would be all out of place... at the end it is and remain an empty Mc guffin chase....
i knew just enough about the comics to know the advertising was a lie, yet when i did finally get to see the movie, i was quite impressed by "the mysterio scene". the scene where the film makers had the creativity to do whatever they wanted with mysterio's powers. it wasnt the trip from movies like dr strange, but was over the top with a level of consistency and "real fakery".
roght I think the line I loved the most was the bullshit line of them being dimension-616 Since that isn't possible since MCU is Earth-199999, but anyone that doesn't know mysterio or knows foot deep information could be into tricked into thinking he isn't lying about dimensions and don't work it out in there head.
@@59hawks Basically me. I knew Mysterio wasn't a really powerful guy because I knew him, but I was like "Wait that is true? So maybe he have weapons better than illusion in the movies?" and it was a trick. That was clever as hell.
If you watched the Avengers cartoons. One knew that Mysterio was the bad guy the whole time.
I always wondered if people who read the comics could have a slight knowledge on how the movie plays out
@@JustElleYapping i didnt read any of the comics, but marvel is big enough at this point where i can get some information through osmosis (or other media). Mysterio may only be a minor villain in spidey's rouges gallery, but knowing he is a part of it is enough to spoil the lie.
“Audiences surprised when villain known to fake being a hero turns out to be villain”
“Audiences surprised that villain know for faking things fakes things in movie”
Stark: *says BARF*
Beck: Well, time to be a villain
Beck: I was good but now I'm bad
"Yes Janus i still need a cape "
"No capes"
OMG true! 😂 I imagine that, if Mysterio _were_ real, he probably wouldn't need the cape. It was likely just added for the sake of more flashy design, rather than serving any real functional purpose. Which is totally in-line with Beck's character.
@@DLxxx considering that the only MCU heroes with capes are Thor and Vision, one is a god so is durable enough to survive the cape and the other can turn intangible so no problem
@@theirishviking9278 how dare you forget Bandicoot Carrotsick's Dr. Strange
@@theirishviking9278 We also have Strange, but his cape is alive and can actually help during the fight
@@theirishviking9278 and Vision got it because he saw Thor's lol
They promised mysterio and we got mysterio. Nothing about that was a lie. Any Spider-Man fan knew that something similar to this was going to happen
@moon bars 😐
@moon bars his whole thing was illusions. When I said something similar to mysterio, I meant he would probably be using illusions... You’re not the smartest one are you 😐
but is talking about blockbusters consumers and marketing, not comics.
I knew he was evil the entire time lol just from the comics. He almost does the same thing in his debut.
@@morganwagner2259 You pretty much missed the entire point of the video so I wouldn't be judging who the "smartest one" is if I were you. Either way, it doesn't make someone less intelligent just because you failed to clarify what you meant.
Something I feel needs to be shared: THIS is a solid example of how you advertise a movie. Being a Marvel fan, I was already aware of Mysterio, in reality, being nothing but smoke and mirrors and was curious about how they'd handle turning him into a hero from another dimension.
There was something cathartic for me about learning that they kept him the SAME. A complete and utter sham out for himself. XD You're right that if they showed Beck upfront, who he really is, the man behind Mysterio, this would NOT have made as much money as it did. It's great~
^This.
I hate how Filmento just calls it a “lie,” and says it’s not an action movie just because Peter deals with some stuff normal teenagers do and because they threw in a subversion the *actually lead to some interesting developments and story* (here’s looking at you, TLJ). Just because he wasn’t expecting something, it’s now “awful that they would deceive us like this” and “it should not be considered a good movie.” What they did was raise excitement for the movie *without giving much away in the trailer,* something I’ve hardly seen any movie do but would like to see from more movies.
@@aaronmueller1560 But... He just said the truth and it was good writting. The movie it's not what everyone who doesn't know mysterio thought and this made the movie better for the idea of the character of Spiderman himself. That's why they made it look like a super stronger villain, that is why its a _perfect_ lie.
The worst enemy a human can get is not an alien, or a wild animal.
It's human themselves.
One thing that I love about the MCU Spider-Man and Toby Maguire Spider-Man is the fact that their villain acts the way a person would act. They don't want the world. They just want what matters to them.
Human motivation is the most relatable to human after all.
Did you feel smart as you were writing this cliche bs?
@@SmokeymcJoint420 dude whats your problem
@@alpharias8413 He thinks he's smart.
I mean what did you guys expect the target audience for Iron Boy Jr movies are small kids
All the haters suck, what you're saying makes sense
This movie cemented the frustrations of Iron Man 3 critics who disliked the handling of The Mandarin. This is how you weave a lie around a big bad guy that doesn’t exist for your own profits. And this film actively made Beck and Mysterio believable within their character context. Instead of being an awful throwaway joke.
Yes, this version of Mysterio is still a recognisable Mysterio.
Still a special effects genius using smoke, hypnosis, mirrors and holograms to fool his opponents whle trying to get rich/powerful.
Still a guy with no real powers but what his trickery and tech give him.
Sure, this one has better tech and a team of disgruntled ex employees to help him pull off bigger tricks and help with exposition, but he is still essentially the same kind of character with the same kind of powers.
That is why it's so sad the Mandarin was treated as a joke instead of being reworked in some way.
Even a "You caught my puppet but now face the real Mandarin" cliche would have been better than how it turned out.
@Nestor El demente nice troll lol
@Nestor El demente this is the most obvious bait I’ve ever seen, get a fucking hobby mate
@Nestor El demente and your H O B B I E is to start dumb arguments on the internet, also that late birth insult is legitimately offensive to people who actually had a late birth, I was simply giving you advice, and please be more mindful of others, also how come you said ‘lol answering comments is dumb’ when you did that exact thing, and then proceeded to do it to me twice, hypocrite much? As you can see I have ended this argument with relative ease, good day sir
@Nestor El demente nice bait man 😂
I love how much more heart this movie had, it really felt like a comic book turned into a movie. it was silly, and emotional, and had weight to it, it was meaningful and i love how peter is maturing!
also, the trailer didnt RUIN it for me, like i find most trailers do now
awesome video, man!
I do like that they seem to be making Peter more reliant on his own genius throughout the films. Yes, he's still using Stark's tech for his suit in FFH, but everything he put in the suit was due to what he felt he would need, not what Stark put into it, like the first suit. I am hoping that if the contract continues past the next film, that Peter eventually realizes that he doesn't need Stark's tech anymore. Because that's one of Peter's best qualities in the comics. His self reliance. Depending on when you start reading his books, he's normally just a guy with minimal amounts of money, that uses his ingenuity to create his suits and gadgets, and still manages to survive. I do get the use of Stark's tech right now though, as he's just a kid with no way to create the things he uses in battle, but as he grows older, that needs to change.
War624 Seems to me like they're going to be going the route of "Parker Industies- Peter Parker" of Superior Spider-Man mixed with Amazing Spider-Man's "Everyone knows/post Civil War Peter Parker". Which kinda leads me to believe that Mephistopheles or someone just as powerful is in the future of the MCU.
We have to remember that they aren’t following the comics entirely. The current Spider-Man is more attached to Stark and Tony is and will be a big part of the character. Him using Tony’s suit but making his own improvements is really all that is needed in this current timeline. I just feel like nitpicking things like this that are easily understandable or supported just isn’t fair to the writers and won’t allow you to actually enjoy what you’re watching.
I disagree. I've seen the previous Spiderman movies and cartoons and this iron man influence is different. The classic version has a few different ways to solve a problem but access to Stark Tech gives him new options and new enemies. Tom Holland captures Spiderman's personality really well but the original storyline is what really sells it to me. I've seen the whole with great power comes great responsibility origin story with classic villains too many times. I want Spiderman to merge into the Ironman verse and the rest of the MCU and end up fighting someone else's rogue gallery. He could be their sidekick like black widow was to Captain America.
I agree. Although many would like him to keep the role of Spider-Boy, I wish he could grow into his own thing. Spider-MAN, the guy who has no money, no big bucks, no amazing power, no cool family, but still is beating the living hecc outta villains like Dr. Octopus and Green Goblin and is the most beloved hero in the world.
Because being small, but growing to be greater...
I can relate to that.
So who cares he still used what Tony made which is the tech he didn't make his suit like Spider-Man whould
Also "small scale" MCU movies.
Spider-man Homecoming
Ant-man
Ant-man and Wasp
yes, i do hope antman 3 is a big event movie
Also Iron Man 1, 2, Incredible Hulk
Ant man is my favourite
Basically the bug related movies
Ant-Man... small scale 😂 never
Reality Stone: *exists*
Mysterio: "I'm about to ruin this rock's career."
Actually, it doesn't exist any more. Thanos USED THE STONES TO DESTROY THE STONES.
Congrats on being the 1,500,000th person to use that joke.
@@psychomoth06 Michael Strong: Makes overused joke
StillersRock: I'm about to ruin this man's whole career
@@armanat5512
It still exists, its just no one can use it. The Russo Brothers have confirmed it.
''They''re minerals''
I liked how the movie showed Peter Parker as a high schooler and a kid still. He had to make a huge choice, one that kids dont have to make. But because of his powers, he HAS to choose the superhero life to defend others and those he cares about. This movie does an excellent job of that, and the way the movie went, I loved it all.
yeah, something that was missing in the first, homecoming is not a bad movie, they even saved one of the worst villains, but for the first solo movie it had some things missing, it wasn't personal enough until the second half and that is bad for a superhero movie, scpecially when he had already appeared in another movie
bUT iROn bOy jR nevEr haz REsponSibilITY.
6:20 the villain for captain America civil war actually was human and had an amazing motivation, and was so motivated to destroy the avengers that he killed many people in order to do so
Hail Hydra
@@luna775 no that dude wasn't hydra. You're thinking of Winter Soldier. Civil war had a different dude
He was Zemos
@@judydian5636 YES zemoS
@@judydian5636 A man with Turkish delight
FFH's action summarized:
Deadpool: "Big CGI fight coming up!"
Lol
Beck says it. "Right now, people are willing to believe anything", even a guy coming from a parallel earth. I love how it's mocking the audience as well as a second meaning.
@@Lilly-ti3vx Deadpool: Enters MCU
Last time I was this early, Green Goblin stabbed himself with his glider.
And the last time I was there, Batman has stolen PIZZA TIME.
Last time I was this early, Venom wasn't ruined by Topher Grace.
last time I was this early, Batman had The Bat Shark Repellent (tm DC)
Green Goblin: Oh...
Don’t tell Harry
They turned probably the lamest and most unused, memorable but yet obscure, campiest supervillain and turned him into probably one of my favorite Marvel Villains ever, not even just in the MCU.
Wow didn't knew paste pot pete was in the MCU
I gotta appreciate the MCU taking the most uninteresting spidey villains and turning them into some of the best
@@GaiusIntrepidus they can do it with their hero, they also can do it with their villain.. like nobody knew about guardian galaxy outside of comic reader before the movie came out, and somehow they make it good and interesting
@@krisyannuruha5147
Hopefully Shang Chi and The Eternals become as good
wait since when is mysterio lame, obscure, or unused? hes literally one of the founding members of the sinister six
*Purple Grape:* _REALITY CAN BE WHATEVER I WANT..._
*Mysterio:* ｐｉｚｚａ ｔｉｍｅ
REDDIT MOMENT
Spider-Man: You're late. I'm not paying for those.
Best comment ever
Pizza time pizza is pleased with Mysterio
Red grape not purple
Everything about Mysterio is all about lying, he's the master of Illusions
He even pulled the fake death.
And who is loke?
Arkan NOA “smoke and mirrors” as I like to say
no I'd say the CGI dude is the master of illusions and Quentin Beck is all about lying
@@theob1455 and taking all the credit
*"It's easy to fool people when they are already fooling themselves"*
That's so deep. It can be applied to real life also
when i watched it i was wondering why the actor of Mysterio is so bad at acting(it's somewhat cringy). I mean the way he talks and his behavior seems very staged. Only to realize that it WAS, in fact "staged". it was the plot
Master acting
His acting was good
Pretty nice amount of likes
biggest anime plot-twists of all time
What are you talking about, his acting was A+
Thanos: Has the reality stone
Mysterio: "So it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum"
I don’t understand how no one else has liked this or commented on this. LMAO this is the perfect JoJoke
Joe Joe refrence
Mysterio is one of the best villains I've seen in a movie in a while. I've met at least a dozen people just like him.
I think the people you are talking about are called gammas.
When the villain's entire theme is about illusion, then all these lies, these deceptions, help perpetuate that theme.
Yea this dude is “reaching “ to find something bad
@@project6439
Wait... who's "reaching" to find something bad? This seemed to be a very glowing review of the movie.
That's the point of this video. He's praising the movie for exactly that.
@@project6439 Look, I just found this channel today but guessing by the fact that the title has "Film Perfection" and the video is just him complimenting the movie, he just might be doing the opposite of what you think he's doing. See what happens when you assume?
@@theabundanceofcomment5072 “why a soon when you can just ask” -Socrates
So pretty much y’all just didn’t know about mysterio is what I got
Right? It's a movie with Mysterio as the villain. anyone who knows Spidey knows that Mysterio is the biggest conman faker out there.
This is a movie. The BASIC rule of an adaptation is that it needs to stand on it's own legs. This doesn't
The funny thing is that the movie does a really good job of tricking you at first. Beck's talks to spidey and his advice are both real. Because of the nature of the movies you easily suspend your disbelief for the big action scenes, even when the movie sprinkles clues in that something might not be right. Even though the fake hero is litterally Mysterio, you just assume "I guess this guy is different..."
When the nightmare sequence for spidey against mysterio started, I basically said to myself "Why didn't I expect this? This is literally mysterio". It's because the movie is very cleverly written.
@@sarasthoughts That's only true for the first of a saga/trilogy/series. Any sequel, including the Toby McGuire Spidey movies, rely HEAVILY on what came before it. Spider Man 2 doesn't have the emotional or theatrical weight that it does if you don't see the first one, first. Still a fantastic movie, but better in the context with what came before it.
To say Far From Home "isn't good because it doesn't stand on its own two legs" is not only an incorrect statement, but one that's just reaching for a reason to not like it, for some reason. It's an inaccurate, out-to-lunch view, just to have a different opinion.
Honestly this movie almost made me forget that he's a villain
One of the things I love about this movie is the teenage awkwardness; it's a small part of the movie but I think that every adult, can relate to it at some point in their teen life and it makes you want to root for Peter even more.
Mysterio literally says, "People will believe anything these days" a comment on both the people in the movie and us as an audience , who've gotten accustomed to seeing these threats in marvel movies
Mysterio has always been fake, and Spider-man has always been about the small, personal relationships around Peter Parker and not about Spider-man saving the world, but how Peter manages to live both lives.
I was legitimately worried on how they were going to make Mysterio a villain to take seriously, and how would his powers translate to movie
Happy to say I was very impressed with how they handled him. I always felt he was a campy villain in the comics when I was growing up, but this movie did a great job conveying his ability.
Same. The thing that I find baffling is how people complain about mysterio being ruined because he has a grudge against Iron Man. That really feels like a tedious complaint given that it makes Mysterio essentially a foil to both Iron Man and Peter Parker if they chose to use their technology and abilities for merely fame and glory.
@@johnstarbuck7154 A weird complain, because many spidey villains in the other films usually don't have a grudge against him as well
"Tony Stark can't live up to Tony Stark" you hear that marvel ? you're toast :D
I mean
thats why he dead
"Pretty much everyone enjoyed [this film]"
Hitop films: *delete this*
@Makuta S-V Yeah i cant even rewatch without seeing problems something like captain america the first avengers is rewatchable
@Makuta S-V I do get it the first two times but if they go for number 3 then done and just No because can we have Spider-man and his villains be there own thing like how it was then being Iron man side characters. It really is disrespectful to Spider-man.
@Makuta S-V lol yeah. if they are so off comic accuracy with everything else. why not go off comic accuracy with mysterio?
Makuta S-V lol as a giant mysterio fan your opinion is pretty pathetic . He’s been one of the best Spider-Man live action movie villain to this day. His core was the same . You raimi fanboys need to stfu and get over it. The core needs to be the same to be a good adaptation . Nolan’s Batman did that well and the mcu Spider-Man is doing that well.
OneYuDBZSlayers you mean making them smaller by showing that his villains and Spider-Man themselves are every men ? That they are street level living off the destruction and powers of the avengers level hero’s ? LIKE THE COMICS. Core is the same. Thank gosh being a big daredevil fan as well that fanbase isn’t as anal as you guys.
The whole plot of daredevil season 1 is because of the avengers. If daredevil fans were like the raimi fanboys they’d bitch about him being reduced to just a clean up of the avengers (which is THE FRICKING POINT)
Spider-Man is just a kid after all, it's always been about his friends and growth
Never thought of it that way. *This actually made me love this movie even more!*
Thanos: Reality can be whatever I want.
Mysterio: Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.
I like how they tricked me into believing that they changed his character in to a fucking generic father figure with powers that'll die
Soooo......Mysterio is Syndrome from the Incredibles....but spicy.
Nah syndrome is mysterio . Mysterio has been around for a way longer time. With pretty much the same characteristics as the movie
thanks deku 👍
Syndrome invented actual working gear and gizmo's.. Mysterio is not the same.
wreckcelsior mysterio invented the illusion tech. Tony just took credit for it
@@BenjiM514 Oh yeah... forgot about that.
cheers.
My favorite part about the Tom Holland Spiderman movies is just how very accurate a lot of the high school stuff is
yeah, at least they aren't a bunch of 30-year-old boomers trying to act like kids
Yes because when we're high schoolers we are going on a European trip for holidays 🤣😂
@@sarcasticmind1765 schools go to trips to different countries soo going on vacation to a different country is fine and pretty epic
Audience: B-But why? He's looked as such a nice guy!
Comic Readers: First Time?
I loved Mysterio's portrayal in this film. I can only imagine how someone unfamiliar with his villain status experienced this film. Probably similar to how I felt reading those original Mysterio stories.
My mum was 100% convinced he was a new good superhero guy. She only started thinking something is wrong, when Peter gave Mysterio the glasses
Filmento: Mysterio us the first regular man who is a villan
Zemo: Am I a joke to you?
Yeah, those plot threads were pretty similar
Vulture
So... They made Mysterio just like how he is in the comics
Ye
When the story seems to have resolved, and the movie seems to have passed _really_ quickly with a comically simple finale
*Something's wrong, I can feel it*
You have weird feelings. :)
The movie was great and the ending was standard ending.
@@dasik84 He wasn't saying that as a bad thing
@@train123z That's why I added the smiley. :)
@@dasik84 He is talking about when they defeated the elementals.
Did anyone else notice that he wrote "thonos" as the villain of endgame as a reference to his thanosrat video?
Only everyone with eyeballs noticed it....
"Beck is living proof that in order for a villain to be effective, they don't need to be powerful or larger than life, all they need is to be obsessively motivated." Love that.
He just needs the world to see him. Similar to Joker.
I always loved Spider-Man movies because compared to something like Avengers, they feel like a romatic-comedy anime.
This time they even got the occasional cringe right.
@@user-zz7rs6lf7w True
C'mon, even anime can do better than this.
@@sonicdash9652 😀😀😶🤨😲😰 wha
@@sonicdash9652 well yes and no
4:00
"Being a powerless nobody is what makes Mysterio a.k.a. Syndrome such an amazing villain"
Imagine if Mysterio got the reality stone. bruh. OP.
Funnily that sort of happened in a Video game called Spider Man Shattered dimensions.
"so this is what real power feels like, no more parlor tricks or slight of hands, Mysterio is now the Master of real magic and this is just the begining hahahaha"
Mysterio has the power of Cgi monstrousitys
@KJ Beast 👏👏👏👏
"How to be a Good Spider-Man Sequel"
Step 1: Be a lot like Spider-Man 2
“The battles aren’t real”
Mehhhhh, id reason that having control over an army of drones that have the ability to cause damage reflected by the illusions mysterio is creating is a pretty real threat to me.
The fact that mysterio is lie in every way is true the character and somehow they made him more threatening than most spider man villains.
I’d argue to say he’s the most threatening spider man villain in a movie yet, considering the amount of firepower he had control of. It just seems like a silly premise to make out the move to be “fake” in terms of scale when it was the “lie” that was sold to everyone was actually just a setup for a great but natural plot twist that most of us, especially dedicated spider man fans say coming. I think a “larger scale” selling a point was an unplanned by product.
id say not showing the twist in any of the trailers, or even mentioning that Mysterio was a bad guy in any of the trailers, while showing lots of the action scenes would be evidence against it being unplanned. But i don't think there is any real way of knowing. Either way the movie was great.
A bunch of Tony drones would be a threat to normal people, but you saw how Spiderman tore through those things like paper, right? Thor could wipe it out in seconds. Hulk, lol, would laugh at them. Daggum Hawkeye and Nat could probably take them out. The drones weren't really a big threat in terms of these Marvel characters.
@@alanroberts6086 hawkeye and widow would be dead in a instant lol
Far From Home tells a lesson on How to make the Perfect Lie.
Its almost like they wrote a character driven story and then thought how to add action to it
Anyone else hyped for Spider-Man: Homeless
Yes
Its No Way Home
@@carlofrancisco1501 Go back it time to tell them my guy
One thing that fascinates my mind, is that Mysterio can be revealed to be just a guy in a mo-cap suit... And that the audience not only accepts it, but more importantly knows what a mo-cap suit is...
I'm just picturing the meetings where it was proposed. And no studio execs were worried that the suit would look silly and cheap for those who have never seen those grey suits and why they exist in the movie and game industry. Because, while it is obvious for the tech savvy viewers... To others it's just a grey spandex suit with whacky patterns on it straight out of a 60s Batman episode.
You missed the whole training montage, where mysterio was using the drones with machine guns to cause real damage.
It’s not cgi. It’s drones with a cgi monster, with machine guns to cause the buildings to collapse.
My favorite set up and pay off in this film is definitely Peter learning to trust his spider-sense and in turn himself. Those kind of themes are what makes Spider-Man so great.
An actual analysis of Far from home instead of complaining it's not Sam raimi spiderman.
Looking at you HiTops
I like that channel but his spider man MCU vids are garbage
@@2ndairborneguy790 becuse you dont like the movies?
Dosnt make the video bad buddy
I'm looking at WCBS.
I Like how this film isn't the thing where the whole galaxy is at stake because in those films you can't grasp the stakes and the immersion is partially gone
IT worked in IW and Endgame
@@tevcon317 I guess
@@tevcon317 yes, because of who drove the stakes up to that level of destruction, Thanos. Infinity war made him a threat, then a winnner. Endgame is all about beating him for good. Thanos actions and words had weight. Making the stakes believeable.
@@LMAOuncleDEMO I know
@@tevcon317 because we had gamora personal view involved, the scene where she told peter to kill her, he struggled to do so, then finally did, and it didn't work, is the real "i am inevitable" scene, and in he second movie the weight comes from the fact that they will not rewrite the story only bring the people back, so it will never be the same
The reason I am in love with this movie so much is because of how much is focuses on peter as a character. He is such a good character at heart and deserves a movie franchise that enhances this ❤ this is why everybody lost their shit when they thought sony was going to take it and ruin it 😭
"those are the stakes"
hi-top films: *heavy breathing*
Is he doing something lately? I've never more seen the guy on my frontpage.
@@LucasDeziderio he is trying to sell spider man 3 as a masterpiece for the finale in a film trilogy in a 3 part video
@Morris 1 🙄
@Morris 1 Are you dunkey?
Morris 1 yes because the mcu is all childish and spiderman 3 is for adults. Spiderman 3 is for real men.
The Train-yard sequence is my favourite part of that movie. It reminded me so much of the Spider-Man 2 video game when you fight Mysterio and was glorious and seemed so perfectly tuned to his character.
Also I wasn't a huge fan of the previous mainline Spider-Man movie because I like the Peter that is a genius scientist and is experienced/developed enough to be the leader of the Avengers and Tony's suit felt like a good symbol of him being a child and having others protect him. This movie finally started to give me what I want in the character by having it be about him taking that position and making his own suit that he designs.
NerdyPi Imagine a teenager being experienced.
While I agree with you for the most part, I think it's worth pointing out that Peter was always a genius since his introduction in Civil War. There we learn he made his own suit, retractable goggles, web shooters, and most impressively, his web fluid formula. The most Tony did was upgrade on Peter's original designs since he had the funding and experience, which doesn't make Peter any less of a genius, it just further shows how poor and limited a real high school kid would be. Also, I believe Tony only rescued Peter once in the film, and had to cover for his and Vulture's collateral damage once as well. Every other threat in the film was one Peter neutralized himself.
We see in FFH that if Peter really wanted to, and had access to better resources, he could've made a suit on the level of the one Tony made him.
As much as I dislike the design of the new suit, I'm glad too that he made it himself, so hopefully, he made one that closely resembles the classic suit more rather than something that's totally different.
@@nerasomnia I didn't say I wanted a teenage Spider-Man
@@DLxxx That's a good point but it's not highlighted very much in Civil War and it seemed dwarfed/downplayed by Tony and the gang.
This movie really makes it clear that they are heading down the timeline for Spidey that I really liked.
I like the bit in this video where you mention that the stakes in this movie come from Spider-Man trying to control the damage and save people, because that's kinda the theme of the trilogy. Responsibility, making mistakes, sacrificing what he wants for others, and becoming a better Hero. All three "Home" films felt like dual purpose films, with the second purpose being setting up who Spider-Man is in the future. That was further reinforced for me at the end of No Way Home where Peter gets his fresh start in a rundown apartment with a homemade suit. It was like "there's 3 origin movies, NOW we can get rolling with Spider-Man stories" - I'm hoping the next couple movies will give us Spidey in NY fighting his classic villains.
Mysterio was a really good villain but deep down we all know that the best villain in the entire MCU was Malekith the Accuser.
There is no such thing as Malekith the Accuser that would be Ronan, its Malekith the Accursed
It is a joke that Filmento himself made to showcase how boring they both were.
@@PrestonGarvey- oh ok I heard him say it before it pissed me off, I didnt realise it was a joke lol, I feel dumb now
I'm really glad the Guardians beat him up
@@kingofnara its ok
"Mysterio was a lie"
Well yeah that is kind of what Mysterio is all about
This movie went back to basics, early anime and cartoon style villains, I love it. Not necessarily a basic character with no background, but in his basic coding is “Pure Fuckin Evil”
Like Doom, it’s basic, but not so much that it’s generic or boring, it’s perfect.
Hi-Top Films: *crying in the background*
Honestly it’s kind of sad. He’s so angry that they’re not what he wants to be that he refuses to see them as anything other than hollow imitations of what they were never trying to be. I do believe the second rami film is probably better than homecoming and far from home, but they’re completely separate from each other. I enjoy both films, I love Spider-Man, but just because I prefer one over another doesn’t mean the other is garbage. I pity him, really.
HiTop Films: *Still correct about FFH*
@@chka1043 lol
I literally find your comments everywhere defending MCU spidey
@@chka1043 of course I defend this version of Spider-Man second why do you care other than being comic book Spider-Man fan yourself
"I could go on, but..."
Me: checks video length, 10 more minutes to go.
That “the nice guys” poke hit home too hard... top 5 in my book, was completely overshadowed
6:21 Ah yes, my favorite villain, *Thonos*
I said for years that mysteryo (however you spell his name) would be an awesome villain to bring to the big screen. I love the fact they finally did it and it was glorious.
My single favorite line from this movie and probably any modern movie period is when Beck says, “people tend to believe. And now a days, they’ll believe anything.” Which gets paid off in the post credits scene perfectly.
3:50 Yes, that dude. That dude with the glasses is Mysterio. He still lives, knows everything, has the tech. Perfect Heist!
Beck is also an illusion made by the drones. The dude with the glasses made him die on the bridge. The greatest trick of the magician: leaving the stage.
13:30 isn’t it also about setting up the EDITH drones as well as the exact events that make peter feel unworthy of the EDITH glasses
"The mysterio we were promised was a lie"
You don't know much about comics, do you?
Mysterio was ALWAYS an illusionist. His whole shtick has always been messing with people's heads and playing with perceptions.
That said. It was a very good video and perfectly sums up what makes this movie great FOR A GENERAL AUDIENCE... and even the comic nerds who could predict the plot a mile off.
Perhaps, bur the way it was marketed, and the way the character was portrayed initially promised a different Mysterio. Of course, people would still be able to find out his character in the comics, but there remained just a sliver of doubt to allow for the deceptions to work as intended.
Let's add to this. Mysterio usually pretends to be a hero in his first appearances in multiple mediums. Has these seem powers in some. And usually pretends to be a magic based character. What I find interesting is how they used the recently released at the time, spiderverse movie, to reinforce mysterio.
You didn't watch the video, did you?
well the channel's called "filmento", not "comicmaniac". Of course he's gonna make a video from a general audience's perspective. If anything him not knowing about the comic makes this even better because it proves Marvel and Sony successfully portrayed Mysterio/Beck the way he's meant to be.
@@velvet287 That's actually a pretty good point... I just thought that particular prose was a bit hyperbolic.
Spider-Man fighting with illusion with some horror elements is one of the best CGI of marvel in recent times 🔥
Your videos are a blessing to enjoying movies. I love your in depth and detailed critiques that don’t just say something is good or bad, but explains exactly why they are.
I thought it would actually be cool if Mysterio had turned out to be an alternate good version of himself.