And that goes for any information, event historical facts and any piece of art in any medium. Anything can be subjective and we all have our own filters, personalities, life experiences that may influence the things we see, hear, taste, touch and absorb intellectually, spiritually, mentally, emotionally and artistically.
It's the former. And the film offers still so so much more. In my mind it's the most perfect film. The amount of effort that went into it is just insane. "sometimes people who can shine can see things that haven't happened yet, sometimes they can see things that happened a long time ago" and The Shining certainly have both of these. It's up for the audience to start shining and seeing what's hidden =)
check out Truth Stream Media's deep dive, I think it is the most thorough yet as far as actual research and not just pulling theories about numbers out of your ass.
I think that the detail is generated from the plan with an individual score for each section of it. Had the same problem of how to imagine the imagining - but the references to Ligetti and Penderecki gave an inkling and after that came the expose about the plan and that suggested a more dimensioned conception of a ‘storyboard’. Perhaps there is an idea at this fundamental level that if ‘architecture is frozen music’ then ‘music is liquid architecture’?
Pretentious - moi? What I should have said is Time Space and Number appear to be three dimensions used self-consciously beyond general story telling narratives. And beyond that that the film’s composition appears like a musical composition of the time of Bach with canons, fugues, counterpoint, and - given that the composition appears to work backwards as well as forwards - a general reverse canon seems to be there also.
@@markhughes7927 I once watched a movie synch where somebody in the movie said, "Have you seen the bridge?" and a David Gilmour guitar solo started on the synched album.
i don't believe 90% of these theories, but the amount of work that was obviously put into this is astounding. kubrick would probably be amazed that his work inspires such a meticulous inspection
Based on that I can predict almost with 100% certainty that you are in the early steps on the path of researching Kubrick. Obviously there are lots of bogus theories and analyses, but the truth is actually more unbelievable than these theories suggest.
@@iconoclast137 It takes couple of years of active research, read/watch all blogs and theories etc. It's hard to say when and how things starts to click, partially it's about luck, partially about intelligence, knowledge, intuition and hard work.
Because they are everywhere. It's their significance or lack thereof, or the purposefulness or coincidence of their placement that is the underlying question.
I really would prefer to put it down to this (apophenia, pareidolia) because it seems impossible to me that anyone could have deliberately built in this much complex symbolism, but do you honestly think you could find as much in, say, "Dude Where's My Car?" or "Harold and Kumar Get the Munchies"?
@@Sharroniw Honestly, I think it's nearly impossible to get the timings down, especially since Kubrik didn't alter/ speed up/ slow down footage in the shining. There's too much room for human error, how the scene is written, how it is performed that is all taking place at once. There's no way to control all of that and apparently it was done forwards and backwards. Basically he was directing two films in one, if that's the logic. And while not impossible to direct two movies at the same time, what is presented here in this video is not possible to be done by design not to that level. I'm sorry, but as cool as it is that things line up, this is a case of 90% coincidence, and the other 10% being by design. Coming from someone that doesn't wholly believe in coincidence himself... it's not genius, although that other 10% does take that much, and he is a brilliant director.
I read "The Shining" while working an entire winter in a hotel in northern Vermont in 1980. I lived in one of the employee rooms in the basement, right next to the boiler. It was freaky as hell. The book is quite different than the film, but the film is a masterpiece. Nothing exists by accident in Kubrick's films.
This movie has always given me the impression that there is more than what is presented on the screen. Thank you for satifying some of that curiosity. I give you 237/217 stars.
Right? I had to put it on a slower speed to absorb everything. Maybe Kubrick isn't a genius, but this guy certainly is. Amazing content, whether it's correct or not!!! Not saying this guy is on LSD, but Kubrick was. I might need to look into it. lol
I just watched this entire documentary. And in the words of Wendy on the staircase... "I'm very confused. And I just... need a chance to think things over."
Hey hope you see this. Saw in a Facebook group today that Shelley was actually dating Ringo Starr during filming and George Harrison came to visit set. Strange stuff
Yeah, a fellow commenter brought that to my attention under one of the shorter videos last year, but I appreciate you thinking of it. Here's a couple links to the place on the site where I've compiled the various curiosities connecting the band and the film (presented in the spirit of "whatever I can think of", not "it all definitely means something"): eyescream237.wordpress.com/up-the-down-staircase-and-the-discovery-of-redrum-road/ eyescream237.wordpress.com/redrum-road-buried-album-covers/ eyescream237.wordpress.com/redrum-road-other-stuff-i-noticed/ If you scroll to the bottom of that last link, you'll see a ghost at the ghost ball with some comparison shots of how Harrison looked at the time, to show that he might've been hiding in plain sight.
@@canuckescape I gotta say that I love this more lengthy version. I would pay good money for these videos, or become a patron for future Kubrick videos/analysis. Hopefully you stay motivated on analyzing Kubrick, because your talent, knowledge, personality etc. seem to be near perfect for doing just that.
Kubrick's mind is beyond genius but I do believe, if looked at through a microscope, any perfect work of art will have endless links to the world of It's creator.
Yeah I really dont get this It was fun to watch but it seems liek you could basically do this for any piece of work and find tons of wierd stuff that seems to line up and I highly doubt kubrick planned out this level of insane esoteric stuff.
This is the craziest video I've seen in my whole life. Then I realized, this is also the most amazing video I've seen in my whole life. Never knew about the culture of the Shining, amazing stuff. Good video! Also, I pause the video when you were talking about 237 and realized that it was 2:37 am. Almost shit myself...
Holy crap as I paused the video to read the comments out of curiosity I noticed that it’s 23:18 which if you subtract 1 from 8 it would be 237. What the F???
@@berkcanberk4947 holy shit it's 23:16 (1+6=7) the moment I'm writing this. Didn't plan on sleeping tonight anyway so I guess I'll have to channel Kubrick or something and have him explain wtf kind of sorcery he tapped into.
I absolutely love this video, it is excellent, thorough and delightful. Anything which analyses 'The Shining' lures me in and this is one of the best video essays I've seen; the depth of analysis and level of interpretive connectivity is amazing. Sometimes I can get a bit disillusioned with aspects of contemporary society which I feel are shallow and videos like this are balm to the soul, thank you for your hard work in making this. As an Art Historian who loves going down the rabbit hole analysing paintings, I especially enjoyed your consideration of the art used in Kubrick 's film. Another fun Beatles coincidence-connection that I thought of (forgive me is you've mentioned this elsewhere) is that Paul McCartney's girlfriend in the 60s - British actor Jane Asher - played Francesca in 'The Masque of the Red Death' and also, as a child, played Alice in audio recordings of 'Alice in Wonderland' and 'Through the Looking Glass'. It's wonderful how everything is connected. I'd love a similar video on 'Eyes Wide Shut'!
That's neat McCartney on rubber soul has a song called I'm looking through you. And I always thought it has a through the looking glass link but just thought it's just looking and through probably no connection. But you say his gf that I'm pretty sure he wrote the song for was the voice of Alice in the wonderland and through the looking glass it connects. Good fun fact you had there
Now the same with long and winding road I always thought of wizard of Oz but on get back docu McCartney says he never even seen the movie lol. That's like saying I never seen Nemo or toy story when I was born in the 2000
You could play almost any movie forwards and backwards simultaneously, while playing any music album and you’d find tons of interesting things. It’s just the way the world works. Try this: make a 3 minute video about anything you want and then put a random song over the video and you’ll still find that the music lines up very frequently.
Kubrick knew people would find all kinds of ‘hidden meaning’ in his film if he made it vague enough. Doesn’t mean you’re wrong, but it doesn’t mean it was deliberate.
The intro music "The Shining (Main Title) is a reference to Dies Irae, a Medieval poem describing the Last Judgment, at which late souls will be divided into those who are doomed to go to Hell and those who are sent to Heaven. The Dies Irae main theme describes the day of wrath, the day of sorrow, and the music is without a doubt foreboding what's in store for the family, as we follow their journey to their "judgment day". As a side note, the different tonal steps used for the line "dies irae, dies illae" are 2-3-7, not counting the root note.
@@pauladam9624 ummm, no. “Rocky Mountains” is a separate song, which plays while the family is driving to the Overlook. The theme song plays in the beginning and is based on the Dies Irae.
I'm all of 50 minutes in and what the fuck???? I'm sorry but if all this is accurate information and if everything in here is meant to be found and purposefully placed in there, then the amount of thought and effort put into that film is beyond insane. Not only that but the skill and dedication of those who found all this have to be admired and credited
Kubrick, one of the most genius person who ever lived, one of the most perfectionist workaholic that ever lived. Spending many times longer for this film than anyone else. And the results are incredible. Also it's because he had absolute control over his films, this sort of thing wouldn't have been possible for most (or pretty much anyone else).
Is it safe to say that "Shinning Analysis" is a genre unto itself now? If so I think we can agree that this is a triumphant standout in a crowded field.
I haven't watched this one yet, but Truth Stream Media's first two parts (three more planned, and each of the first two are close to two hours in length) take the crown so far as far as I'm concerned. They really dig into actual research, not numerology theories.
When I first watched the shining when I was 10 I thought it was rubbish because it didn’t make sense and nothing tied up. Now 30 years later, I’m analysing the film and looking at what sort of effort that went into choosing every object and word in Stanley’s films and I’m (thrillingly) flabbergasted 😲❤️
Wendy is mad and imagines it all.... That's why everything moves around... As soon as they are in the food store and the first things start moving like cool aid appears and is on top of Wendy's fridge at the start... Wendy is imagining everything pretty much and she kills Jack when hits him with the bat.... Check out the wendy theory
This was a great watch! You've either cracked The Shining, or you've cracked... Just one question though - if Kubrick planned the timing out so meticulously and intended for the movie to be viewed forwards and backwards, why did he recut it after it opened in America? The international cut is about 30 minutes shorter and a lot of the symbolism you discuss here is removed
Hi Andy 1111, thanks for the question. I've answered this in a few comments already, but my feelings on this boil down to a few points. 1) The European version of the film ends around 117 minutes. I've never seen it, so I don't know the exact second that version fades to black, but if it's around that minute, that's our Tower of Babel number, right? So by removing sequences necessary for understanding several of these codes, Kubrick has "confused the languages" of his more complete version. Also, the One By One soundtrack is 38:43, which could potentially fit perfectly three times in that version, if it's around 116:09. 2) There's an interesting phenomenon I'll be discussing in future videos where the ghost ball that rolls up to Danny in the Extended cut is pink while the ghost ball that rolls up in the European cut is more golden. Pink and gold are Wendy's "favourite colours". These are also colours that appear in abundance throughout the hotel, in interesting ways. My theory boils down to the idea that pink symbolizes fantasy, while gold symbolizes reality. So the extended version is about fantasy, while the European version is about reality, but it's not as simple as that would seem to imply. Like, if you only watched the European cut, you would never be able to make sense of Wendy's Four Horsemen trials, because "famine" is missing. So that would take the analyst further away from the fantastical nature of that string of clues. Long story short, I think the two versions are meant to feed off one another, and work to further the larger fantasy/reality context. Also, it's entirely possible the European cut works on a mirrorform basis too, but, again, I've never seen it.
@@PauseFilms I agree that there are a lot of stretches here; the whole Beatles thing seems pretty silly. But knowing we all know about Kubrick, I wouldn't say that any analysis of this movie is unwarranted. A lot of his weird messaging came through in editing. There is definitely more at play that the movie simply as it is shown.
Just wondering if anyone noticed the ash on Wendy's cigarette. Anyone who smokes will know what's wrong. It's a bit cumbersome to explain but essentially in between cuts the cigarette changes from one that hasn't been ashed since it was lit and allowed to burn several minutes to a cigarette that had been ashed at some point within those several minutes.
This guy is a mad genius. Wow. Not sure how much is valid, but he is next level, truly a fantastic brain, and it was a really fun trip to go into his mind as it interprets this dreamlike and haunting film.
Absolutely fascinating. Kubrick seemed like a man who paid attention to many things around him over his life, far more than most people, and it shows in this documentary
Here to agree with both of you! The guy definitely put in the effort. This just seems like a bit much even for an incredible genius. I saw a video where Wendy is the one going crazy. It is still pretty complex but a much more "simpler" explanation. Which seems more on par with a genius. Kind of an Ahkam's razor thing. But what do I know.
Right!? Like all of this is extremely intriguing and compelling but at the same time, it’s all so complex that it almost makes the most sense it’s a coincidence.
So I have watched this a couple of times now..( great work)..I am obsessed..just a little note for you.. 1. The Beatles had an American Saturday morning cartoon that ran for 2 years. 2. The final photograph always kinda reminded me of the Sgt Peppers album cover 3. John Lennon's mothers maiden name was Stanley. 4. In the subtitles of the movie Jack sings San Francisco here I come in the final maze scene...The Beatles performed their "final" concert in San Francisco at Candlestick park before they went to their " studio session" years.. I went to The Beatles Wikipedia page after the 2nd time watching this, and some other things popped into my head..but I need to organize my thoughts before I can put it into words.. But I think you are really well researched...and have set my brain on fire..Kubrick would be proud..
I wanted to share what your information helped me figure out. The implications are pretty wide ranging, and have helped make sense of a few mysteries. Thanks again! eyescream237.wordpress.com/bombo-oct-6-1921/
Noticing the gemini twins, the mirror images, and prevalent use of mirrors throughout the movie, and relating that to Lewis Carroll's "Through the Looking Glass", I started noticing what hand each character uses, and it seems that Jack, Wendy, and Danny are all ambidextrous, OR perhaps we are only seeing their mirror image or alter ego sometimes, for some reason. First I noticed Danny seems to use his left hand for Tony, at the beginning of the movie, but when he gets to the hallway with the Grady twins, after that he's talking to Tony with his right hand. Wendy seems to be smoking with her right hand, but using her left hand to hold the telephone receiver, and the knife she carries later on in the movie. Jack seems to be right handed, but when he's in the storage locker he's using his left hand to try to get out. He swings the ax with his right arm, but he uses his left hand to try to unlock the bathroom door. It's totally possible that they are all ambidextrous, but I think that's kind of improbable. It feels like maybe Kubrick was trying to say something. I'd have to go back scene by scene to try to figure out what it was.
Not to ax your theory, but sometimes people defy their handedness, and prefer the other hand for specific things. For example: Learning to shoot (military) when you're cross-dominant (dominant hand and eye are opposite.) You can't satisfy both, and you're eye isn't going to change. So even though i'm right-handed, I instinctively hold a rifle left-handed. My theory is that this causes one to be artificially ambidexterous at that one task. But of course, Kubrick is a wizard, so...
That's quite an interesting notion. I really love Through the Looking Glass, I think it should be more common in schools... not enough people really read it or become familiar with its themes compared to its more famous predecessor.
HIAF here, gunna have to stop at 1:40:03 and come back in the morning. This Analysis is enthralling I may have to re-watch it a tonne of times just like the movie, great for long sessions. THANK YOU
I watched this a couple years ago and rewatching its every bit as genius as the first time. Whether ALL of these synchronicities were deliberate or subconscious on the part of Kubrick is up for debate, you picking all of this out is an amazing watch.
Not to burst anyone’s bubble, but the film was originally released with an end sequence involving Danny and Wendy at a hospital, which was later cut from the film. This would throw all of the timing correlations you’ve drawn out of sync.
@@duderama6750 I think it's the other way round. EWS is a deep and complicated study of the human condition, at its heart even more primal and jungian than the Shining. Love both movies though.
44:16 For those who think Kubrick wouldn't know anything about racing. His trusted help Emilio D'Alessandro was an ex-racing car pilot.Kubrick would ask Emilio about racing etc.
This is the exact kind of film analysis of The Shining I was hoping to find. The Shining and Twin Peaks are probably my two biggest inspirations in pretty much every creative thing I do.
Bach used reverse and upside, and reverse upside down melodies (retrograde inversion) in the baroque period, and some composers in the classical, romantic and modern periods used 'motiv-through' composition techniques, which sometime also include forward-backward symmetry. So, it wouldn't surprise me if Kubrick used similar techniques for film. Not too far fetched at all.
It's ridiculous to think Kubrick did this on purpose. He was just trying to make the best film possible within the constraints he was given. yes there is depth and subtext but this would have taken Kubrick at least 5 years- consider what the technology was back then, this could barely be done today. The mythos of Kubrick doesn't need to be one where he is a legit superhero
@@ANALOGCLIPS dude simply said people shouldn’t read into it THIS deep. Either way the video was great and is a showcase to just how mind boggling the shining is and with that Kubrick himself was as a filmmaker
I've come back to this video for several Octobers. The older I get the more I appreciate films, art as articulated expression by abstraction (better late than never), and the intentionality of auteurs. It frustrates me to see a product so internally consistent get hand waved away by so many. The King in Yellow, True Detective (season 1), Ambrose Breas, Kafka, Jorge Louis Borges, even Delusion for a Dragonslayer; I can't stop spiralling into stories where the message is the awesome and terrifying power of storytelling rituals. Kubrick's version of The Shining is most-so one of these stories about stories on a scale that commercialized art may never see again. And it's a miracle it ever did. Though only an introduction, the logic here is consistent and sound. At some point when the multiple overlapping and intertwining patterns coalesce and follow the rules established separately by each other enough, there's no room for doubt that there is at least something here beyond what is typically expected or asked of the standard passive audienceship of commercialized cinema begging to be seen, buried as it may be. The fact that I can now understand that the bear scene was an illustration of how powerful men have the ability to control and corrupt even our most innocent seeming and formative medias (supported by many references to media, children's media, various cultures' histories and the propaganda from inside and outside of them, and the entirety of the logic behind Wendy and her being in the "Conquest Well") speaks greatly to how the simple yet complex and diverse language of art can make a dumdum like me feels smart for being able to relate to or converse about broader subjects in ways I otherwise could not properly articulate myself via engagement with media. When I find out what REALLY happened to Robot Jones imma blow the lid off the whole circus.
A lot of the "patterns" are nebulous at best. Pattern finding, as we know, is a trait of the conspiracy theorist. Not dismissing this at all because it's interesting, but a good deal of intellectual generosity is needed to entertain some of the findings imo.
If I want to overlay the film on top of itself, one playing forward, the other backward, at which points of the beginning and the end do I start and stop from? Are the credits or warner brothers logo included? Where does Abbey Road start and stop? How much time is allowed in between having to flip the vinyl record over? How do these elements remain consistent so we too can accurately analyze yours and Stanley's work?
Thanks, round about midnight. Well, I happened to have a lot of exposure to Canadian art as a kid. I grew up a short walk from the art gallery that houses Horse and Train, and that put me on track with Colville. A few of the Group of Seven and Copper Thunderbird ones I recognized by familiarity, but then I figured if we had a couple Go7 works, there would be others. And then I realized that, if we've got Colville and Go7, then we've probably got others, like Thomson, Gagnon, Krieghoff, and so on. So there was a good deal of deduction to start with, but once other nationalities crept in, my search had to broaden. Which was daunting at first, but there's certain tricks I'd picked up at that point that made it a little easier. For instance, Pinterest has a helpful mechanism where you can search by similar images (Google lens has this now too). So if you can find something similar to what you're looking for, and then search that way, you might get lucky. Though it's proven to be a long shot in most cases. One of the really crazy things is how certain of the images were only searchable for a brief window of time. Like the Gagnon piece, Trapper's Camp. I've had users of my website tell me it's not online anywhere except on my site now. So I got really lucky there, and with a few others. Like a certain knitting of a boy and girl seen in their Boulder apartment. That stopped being searchable before I even launched the site. But if you mean, how do I have the patience? It's actually soothing in its way, scrolling through these massive art databases, like artnet.com or mutualart.com, seeing the complete works of all these great artists. So, the search is its own reward, really.
I had understood that Kubrick had set up twinning and reflection imagery throughout the film, but I never understood his motivation to do so. Your analysis suggests the why.
I hope you still see these comments OP: Remember that film was a physical medium at that time. Kubrick could have literally could have put the reels on top of one another, and look through them as one image. Dont know if its before your time but you can demonstrate this with slides from an old projector. This is the key to supporting this as aplausible explanation.
Yeah, I thought about including that, but it ended up being one of the many things lost in the trimming process. There's an accountant's office behind reception that has the name Henry Callahan on the door. Harry Callahan was a photographer famous for double exposing his images to create such effects. And Lolita is thought to be a mirrorform novel by some, so it's possible Kubrick picked up the technique at the beginning of his career from Nabokov. I've lately begun to wonder if all Kubrick's films might possess a mirrorformity. And while you could run the experiment as you say, film projector bulbs are notoriously hot, so I wonder if the two layer process you're proposing would be as effective as, say, getting two projectors, and running them simultaneously, pointed at the same square of screen. Synchronizing them might be a little more nightmarish - especially since a film this long would take multiple reels. It would probably be a lot easier knowing that each frame was synced by holding the two strips together, but then that means actually doing that for as many yards of film reel. I wouldn't put it past Kubrick to ask one of his assistants to do that for him, but it almost seems too cruel. The two projector approach would be a lot more time effective. And it's also possible (not likely, I would imagine) that Kubrick never watched the mirrorform. It's possible he simply sat down, figured out what all would go in his 8463 seconds of visual film, maybe even second-by-second, and then wrote out a list of how long each shot and sequence would have to be in order for the mirrorform to work, and then knew it would be as he wanted it during the editing process. It's hard for me to imagine he wouldn't want to see it, especially since it flows so gorgeously with the music (even my skeptical partner has admitted that Redrum Road is gloriously entertaining to watch), and why go to such lengths if you didn't want to sample your own goods? To see what people like us would later see, and to imagine our reaction. So, lacking evidence for exactly how Kubrick would've interacted with his creation on this level, I've opted to stick as much as I can to the things that are for certain. As for slide projectors, I would make a terrible Mulder if I didn't know what slide projectors were... ;)
Thanks for the feedback! I was thinking of him looking at key scenes on the film strips, overlayed. But I think youre right about him being able to do that all in his head just as well. Im hoing to have to examine the novel of Lolita. I hadnt heard about the mirror effect in that one.
This analysis is too good! Excellent research/video! 👏 Only one problem: It's very easy to fall asleep while watching your videos because of your extremely soothing voice.
The Shining is a Rabbit Hole for film enthusiasts, academics and anybody with an interest in Stanley Kubrik. I saw this film loads of times over the many years since it was first released and most of the theories and interwoven but subtly hidden sub plots and side stories along with the geometrical film patterns and mathematical references is just mind blowing. The man was on God level mode when he made this film.
Finally an analysis video that’s longer then 10 minutes Edit: Damn I had no idea how much detail was added to the film, I literally just watched it a few days ago and never noticed any of this.
What a fortuitous serendipty that I should find this video on the same day when I was asking myself how do I think more like Stanley in the construction of my own films. I watched this from start to finish, blown away by the depth and complexity of this analysis, and the ending was especially poignant, inspiring...revitalizing. Thanks for creating this masterpiece of a deconstruction and sharing it here. I've no doubt that it will continue to challenge like minded artists to dig deeper, go further and push harder
I watched the first half of this video sober, and at first it was interesting. But then I watched the second half while high, and it was VERY interesting.
Thank you for sharing your analysis. I do hope all art continues to ripple and develop within itself, and for us to develop the eye to appreciate it deeply
I feel like I've gone from being creeped out by the film to being creeped out by Kubrick. For years now, I've been intrigued by the hidden depths he put into this film. But after seeing this video, I feel disturbed by...well, whatever his mental state was at the time. I consider myself an obsessive person actually, but his filmmaking was apparently that of an obsessively obsessive mind.
The scene that is mirrored with Wendy finding the broken vehicle, also is mirrored in context, the old man is telling them about the food in a survival sort of way, and the wrecked vehicle speaks of danger of survival.
“All Work And No Play Makes Jack A Dull Boy” is 2160 in english gematria (precession of equinox like youve mentioned) and 360 in simple gematria (circle=pi)
You're doing important work my friend (very well I might add); don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise. I've always thought of Kubrick as a cinematic genius, but my reasoning had obviously been surface level. Thank you for opening my eyes to the true extent!
Thank you, Joe. This was a very high-concept eye screaming experience. I'm looking forward to go deeper into your detailed findings and further analysis.
Please make more videos about the shining! Your perspective and video execution is pure gold! I can’t remember the last time I was so enthralled to discover deeper meanings of such a story! Thank you thank you thank you!!!
This is amazing. A stunning achievement in YT history….my mind is totally brown to shit. Thank you. You must be a crazy person with post it’s all around the house.
Stanley's movies ruled my young life growing up in the 80s. Though I didn't understand his films consciously he hit me hard subconsciously he influenced my art gorever as hr giger did and rewatching his films now as an adult has been amazing
Wow, the amount of work put into this is astonishing! Sometimes it goes overboard, but nonetheless you found out countless things, that are fascinating! Really great work!
“Quick and the dead” is from Hamlet as well, im of the belief Francis Bacon was the real Shakespeare though, you know, the genius who studied cryptography, science, botany, literature and was tied to royalty… and a Freemason ofcourse
I love this. I admit I always thought the novel was so much better than the film, but listening to your analysis has given me such an appreciation for SK's vision, I realize the the film is genius.
Of course it is not. Stanley Kubrick rushed between his project and had no time to sit and think all this out. Time wise it is impossible. No one near him during the filming has said anything about this either. But Stanley Kubrick is a genius. And the way he stages a scene is from his artistry and it is perfection. Stanley Kubrick knows it makes sense that two character moves in two opposite direction in the hotel but it is Joe Girard who points it out in a very exciting way. There for you also find theories that is far from Joe's when it comes to this film. Holocaust, moon landing, gold rush, the native Americans, the sexual abuse story and the bet one of all The Wendy Theory, watch that one.
57:01 “This piece he called his Madonna and child, and this Madonna and child by Leonardo Da Vinci was famously owned by the father of the woman who painted the first painting we see inside room 237 - Nadia Benois, and she was the mother of the only actor Kubrick ever directed to Oscar gold - Peter Ustinov, who played slave owner Batiatus in 1960s Spartacus.” (clip from film) - “How easily impressed you are, Ramon.” Best logic and best video editing of all time.
The first thing that comes to mind regarding your theory is the fact that the European release had roughly 30 minutes of footage cut out of it, by Kubrick himself. Seems unlikely that the mirror imagery would still work, but I can’t possibly say for sure. He stated on several occasions that he made these cuts because he believed that European audiences would understand it easily, and with less information. This leads me to believe that the European version must be HIS intended version. Perhaps his assumption that a European audience would be far better students of his intended themes, like Greek and Roman mythology, had something to do with it. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a reputable version of the original European release, but i’ve always believed that the real answers can be found by studying, comparing and contrasting which scenes Kubrick methodically chose to remove for what he viewed as a more astute European audience.
I'm seeing this criticism pop up a lot, and yours is perhaps the most substantive reflection. My feeling is that the 144-minute version I'm analyzing was intended to function in all the ways I've described - again, apply the "cartoon Shining" logic, and nothing I'm saying is wrong on a technical level, so the question is only whether the analyst finds the resulting interpretation interesting. But I have wondered about the 142-minute and 119-minute versions (as well as the lost 146-minute version, and the 3+-hour original cut that Wendy Carlos was asked to compose an entire score for, before the "great gobs" of scenes were removed). Is it possible they all have their own forms and functions? That's a complex matter, so I'll boil it down to a pro and a con. The con for whether the "European cut" (119 minutes) was the "true" or "master" version of the film is mainly undercut by whether my findings are correct or not. So, I've never seen that version, but I've read a list of the scenes that were removed, and the one that jumps out at me the most is that Wendy's encounter with the "skeleton ball" is missing. If my Four Horsemen analysis is as accurate as I believe the evidence shows it to be, the removal of that scene would make it impossible to realize what Wendy achieves in the 144-minute version. Every removed sequence or moment has an effect like that, but that's the simplest one to relate. The pro for the European cut still being a version worth analyzing is in its length. The "144-minute" version is actually only 2:21:17 of pre-credits movie. So it's possible (again, I haven't seen it), that the "119" version is closer to 117 minutes of pre-credits visuals. And if you watched this video in full, you'll recall that 117 bears a symbolic connection to the Tower of Babel, and this notion of the 11x7 "Overlook Game Board". In the Babel story, Genesis 11:7 is about god going down to confuse the language of the people, so it's possible that this 117 version would be like Kubrick (the god of this movie, so to speak) confusing the language of the 141:17 version. That said, there's also the funny matter of different colour tints used between the two versions of the film. So in the European cut, the ball that rolls up to Danny outside 237 is yellowish, and in the Extended cut, it's pinkish. If we read "yellow" as "gold", these are Wendy's "favourite colours" (or so she tells Ullman). I've shown the evidence for this on the page that analyzes one of the paintings inside room 237, so you can see for yourself, though be warned that it contains NSFW images (eyescream237.wordpress.com/dog-boy-and-st-john-river/). How I noticed the gold ball was by rewatching Room 237, which was apparently edited using that version of the film. As for European audiences being better suited to that version: perhaps. I'd be interested in seeing a unique study of it - I'm certainly too wiped from all this to try it myself. But I'm Canadian, which is probably how I started by getting so many of the Canadian paintings throughout the film. And the hardest ones for me to get have been the Asian/Russian pieces. So part of me wonders if the various versions of the film weren't made with a global audience in mind. I certainly couldn't have identified but a fraction of the artworks without the internet (or without a truly genius art expert), which is like having the world in your living room, right? But I agree that his removal of those select scenes was likely done with great care.
The way someone analyses and interprets The Shining is a direct representation of their own psyche.
There's probably a lot of truth to that
Same goes for how someone interprets day to day life, too.
And that goes for any information, event historical facts and any piece of art in any medium. Anything can be subjective and we all have our own filters, personalities, life experiences that may influence the things we see, hear, taste, touch and absorb intellectually, spiritually, mentally, emotionally and artistically.
@@dalee72 the variables are endless.
@@TimEngle Absolutely
This analysis is either genius or the rambling of a madman. I have no idea which.
Both?
Method in the madness?
It's the former. And the film offers still so so much more. In my mind it's the most perfect film. The amount of effort that went into it is just insane. "sometimes people who can shine can see things that haven't happened yet, sometimes they can see things that happened a long time ago" and The Shining certainly have both of these. It's up for the audience to start shining and seeing what's hidden =)
Genius in the analysis. Genius in the making of this film. Genius in the writing. 😮😮😮
I would suggest the latter.
I never get tired of Shining analysis. This is my favorite film of all time.
Same 😇
check out Truth Stream Media's deep dive, I think it is the most thorough yet as far as actual research and not just pulling theories about numbers out of your ass.
looks for Rob Ager
Thanks for triggering my paranoia, it really helps relieve my anxiety.
Is that like breaking your arm to distract yourself from a papercut?
"just because you're paranoid don't mean they're not after you"
Beautiful, the two go hand in hand.
Honestly I think kubrick would have gone insane trying to execute this level of detail.
I think that the detail is generated from the plan with an individual score for each section of it. Had the same problem of how to imagine the imagining - but the references to Ligetti and Penderecki gave an inkling and after that came the expose about the plan and that suggested a more dimensioned conception of a ‘storyboard’. Perhaps there is an idea at this fundamental level that if ‘architecture is frozen music’ then ‘music is liquid architecture’?
Aka maybe he was neurodivergent? And maybe a *normal average* person would go insane w that level of detail…
Pretentious - moi?
What I should have said is Time Space and Number appear to be three dimensions used self-consciously beyond general story telling narratives. And beyond that that the film’s composition appears like a musical composition of the time of Bach with canons, fugues, counterpoint, and - given that the composition appears to work backwards as well as forwards - a general reverse canon seems to be there also.
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Thy exquisite reason chér knight?
@@markhughes7927 I once watched a movie synch where somebody in the movie said, "Have you seen the bridge?" and a David Gilmour guitar solo started on the synched album.
i don't believe 90% of these theories, but the amount of work that was obviously put into this is astounding. kubrick would probably be amazed that his work inspires such a meticulous inspection
Based on that I can predict almost with 100% certainty that you are in the early steps on the path of researching Kubrick. Obviously there are lots of bogus theories and analyses, but the truth is actually more unbelievable than these theories suggest.
@@juzujuzu4555 whatever you say, sensei
@@iconoclast137 Continue the path Daniel San, it will be worth it =)
@@juzujuzu4555 i've loved stanley kubrick for over 20 years, how long is this gonna take?
@@iconoclast137 It takes couple of years of active research, read/watch all blogs and theories etc.
It's hard to say when and how things starts to click, partially it's about luck, partially about intelligence, knowledge, intuition and hard work.
look for patterns hard enough and you'll se 'em everwhere
In a fractal universe
Because they are everywhere. It's their significance or lack thereof, or the purposefulness or coincidence of their placement that is the underlying question.
I really would prefer to put it down to this (apophenia, pareidolia) because it seems impossible to me that anyone could have deliberately built in this much complex symbolism, but do you honestly think you could find as much in, say, "Dude Where's My Car?" or "Harold and Kumar Get the Munchies"?
@@JohnMoseley
It's not impossible.
He did it. That's his genius.
@@Sharroniw Honestly, I think it's nearly impossible to get the timings down, especially since Kubrik didn't alter/ speed up/ slow down footage in the shining. There's too much room for human error, how the scene is written, how it is performed that is all taking place at once. There's no way to control all of that and apparently it was done forwards and backwards. Basically he was directing two films in one, if that's the logic. And while not impossible to direct two movies at the same time, what is presented here in this video is not possible to be done by design not to that level.
I'm sorry, but as cool as it is that things line up, this is a case of 90% coincidence, and the other 10% being by design. Coming from someone that doesn't wholly believe in coincidence himself... it's not genius, although that other 10% does take that much, and he is a brilliant director.
I read "The Shining" while working an entire winter in a hotel in northern Vermont in 1980. I lived in one of the employee rooms in the basement, right next to the boiler. It was freaky as hell. The book is quite different than the film, but the film is a masterpiece. Nothing exists by accident in Kubrick's films.
I think accidents happened during the enormous amount of takes and then Kubrick stitched together the best of all those accidents.
I STILL see new things with each viewing of Full Metal Jacket!
If not for Kubrick, I would never have broken through!!
I read it for the first time living alone in a snowed in cabin on a deserted dead end road with no phone. Ambience matters.
I call this the Alaska movie as you can live anywhere in Alaska and understand exactly the underlying mood.
@@voluntaryismistheanswer you bet.
finally, someone who can match my level of autism. thank you.
Let’s see what you cooked up then brother
I thought autism too. Very high functioning autism. Autism at a height I'd pay money to attain.
@@MikeSmith10999 yeah it's the kind i have. i can tuck it in and pass as normal when i need to. there's a sweet spot with the spectrum lol.
This movie has always given me the impression that there is more than what is presented on the screen. Thank you for satifying some of that curiosity. I give you 237/217 stars.
I feel like I was driven mad by this video, I applaud the amount of time that went into this. for real man 10/10.
me too
Thank you.
Right? I had to put it on a slower speed to absorb everything. Maybe Kubrick isn't a genius, but this guy certainly is. Amazing content, whether it's correct or not!!! Not saying this guy is on LSD, but Kubrick was. I might need to look into it. lol
Agreed
Kubrick and King have a tendency to transfer obsessiveness with their works. I watched it all too, great editing!
I just watched this entire documentary. And in the words of Wendy on the staircase... "I'm very confused. And I just... need a chance to think things over."
"You've had your whole life to think things over"
@@zipzipzommin4329 *"You've had your whole FUCKING LIFE to think things over..." Come on now, get it right ;)
@@zipzipzommin4329 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I didn't have enough weed to finish watching this.
😆 lmao...
Dw bro I'm boutta roll up, how long you got left?
Dudeeeeeeeeeeee
Grow some weed.
It's easy
It's free
It's a weed
Nerd
That's really sad, actually. Just watch it sober.
@@jht3fougifh393 how is that sad
the weirdest mixture of relaxing and absolutely bewildering to watch
Hey hope you see this. Saw in a Facebook group today that Shelley was actually dating Ringo Starr during filming and George Harrison came to visit set. Strange stuff
Yeah, a fellow commenter brought that to my attention under one of the shorter videos last year, but I appreciate you thinking of it.
Here's a couple links to the place on the site where I've compiled the various curiosities connecting the band and the film (presented in the spirit of "whatever I can think of", not "it all definitely means something"):
eyescream237.wordpress.com/up-the-down-staircase-and-the-discovery-of-redrum-road/
eyescream237.wordpress.com/redrum-road-buried-album-covers/
eyescream237.wordpress.com/redrum-road-other-stuff-i-noticed/
If you scroll to the bottom of that last link, you'll see a ghost at the ghost ball with some comparison shots of how Harrison looked at the time, to show that he might've been hiding in plain sight.
Wasn't Ringo married to Catherine Bach at the time?
@@robzilla730 Probs not. They met on the set of Caveman, and the production of The Shining was pretty long.
Thank you for this. It's beautiful.
@@canuckescape I gotta say that I love this more lengthy version. I would pay good money for these videos, or become a patron for future Kubrick videos/analysis. Hopefully you stay motivated on analyzing Kubrick, because your talent, knowledge, personality etc. seem to be near perfect for doing just that.
Kubrick's mind is beyond genius but I do believe, if looked at through a microscope, any perfect work of art will have endless links to the world of It's creator.
Yeah I really dont get this It was fun to watch but it seems liek you could basically do this for any piece of work and find tons of wierd stuff that seems to line up and I highly doubt kubrick planned out this level of insane esoteric stuff.
This is the craziest video I've seen in my whole life. Then I realized, this is also the most amazing video I've seen in my whole life.
Never knew about the culture of the Shining, amazing stuff. Good video!
Also, I pause the video when you were talking about 237 and realized that it was 2:37 am. Almost shit myself...
WENDY THEORY is better and more solid
Holy crap as I paused the video to read the comments out of curiosity I noticed that it’s 23:18 which if you subtract 1 from 8 it would be 237. What the F???
@@berkcanberk4947 holy shit it's 23:16 (1+6=7) the moment I'm writing this. Didn't plan on sleeping tonight anyway so I guess I'll have to channel Kubrick or something and have him explain wtf kind of sorcery he tapped into.
@@denise26100 wow! What is going on??? I see you’re a fellow insomniac! Welcome to the club. Kubrick has a lot of explaining to do!
@@denise26100 where are you from? Because 53 minutes ago it was 17:23 here so you must be from a different time zone
I absolutely love this video, it is excellent, thorough and delightful. Anything which analyses 'The Shining' lures me in and this is one of the best video essays I've seen; the depth of analysis and level of interpretive connectivity is amazing. Sometimes I can get a bit disillusioned with aspects of contemporary society which I feel are shallow and videos like this are balm to the soul, thank you for your hard work in making this. As an Art Historian who loves going down the rabbit hole analysing paintings, I especially enjoyed your consideration of the art used in Kubrick 's film. Another fun Beatles coincidence-connection that I thought of (forgive me is you've mentioned this elsewhere) is that Paul McCartney's girlfriend in the 60s - British actor Jane Asher - played Francesca in 'The Masque of the Red Death' and also, as a child, played Alice in audio recordings of 'Alice in Wonderland' and 'Through the Looking Glass'. It's wonderful how everything is connected. I'd love a similar video on 'Eyes Wide Shut'!
That's neat McCartney on rubber soul has a song called I'm looking through you. And I always thought it has a through the looking glass link but just thought it's just looking and through probably no connection.
But you say his gf that I'm pretty sure he wrote the song for was the voice of Alice in the wonderland and through the looking glass it connects.
Good fun fact you had there
Now the same with long and winding road I always thought of wizard of Oz but on get back docu McCartney says he never even seen the movie lol. That's like saying I never seen Nemo or toy story when I was born in the 2000
I won’t claim whether I think you’re correct or not; I just find this to be a fascinating and interesting interpretation.
You could play almost any movie forwards and backwards simultaneously, while playing any music album and you’d find tons of interesting things. It’s just the way the world works. Try this: make a 3 minute video about anything you want and then put a random song over the video and you’ll still find that the music lines up very frequently.
Yes, the fact that he did this with 2 different albums and then folds the movie a second time proves your point.
Could it be….Satan?
@@aWomanFreed yes
This effect has gotten me compliments from friends thinking I lined up music super well , and In reality I just slapped some music on the gap
Kubrick knew people would find all kinds of ‘hidden meaning’ in his film if he made it vague enough. Doesn’t mean you’re wrong, but it doesn’t mean it was deliberate.
The intro music "The Shining (Main Title) is a reference to Dies Irae, a Medieval poem describing the Last Judgment, at which late souls will be divided into those who are doomed to go to Hell and those who are sent to Heaven. The Dies Irae main theme describes the day of wrath, the day of sorrow, and the music is without a doubt foreboding what's in store for the family, as we follow their journey to their "judgment day". As a side note, the different tonal steps used for the line "dies irae, dies illae" are 2-3-7, not counting the root note.
hahaa
Umm...no. it's called "Rocky Mountains".
@@pauladam9624 You may not be fit to watch movies then. They're full of metaphors that you shouldn't take at face value.
@@pauladam9624 ummm, no. “Rocky Mountains” is a separate song, which plays while the family is driving to the Overlook. The theme song plays in the beginning and is based on the Dies Irae.
good catch
Yeah anyone whos anyone asked why the ending shot was July 4, 1921… we all knew it meant something so thank you for clearing it up!
This is one of the most in depth analyses on this film that ive ever seen
It's not analyzing a film. It's just a rambling lunatic seeing connections to connections to nothing. Like qanon but more sad than dangerous
I'm all of 50 minutes in and what the fuck???? I'm sorry but if all this is accurate information and if everything in here is meant to be found and purposefully placed in there, then the amount of thought and effort put into that film is beyond insane. Not only that but the skill and dedication of those who found all this have to be admired and credited
It need not all be deliberate and perfectly placed. With proper intent, synchronicity and serendipity can play a polishing role as well.
FACTS. 💯
not only that but the patience to edit and convey it all meaningfully
Kubrick, one of the most genius person who ever lived, one of the most perfectionist workaholic that ever lived. Spending many times longer for this film than anyone else. And the results are incredible. Also it's because he had absolute control over his films, this sort of thing wouldn't have been possible for most (or pretty much anyone else).
@@paradoxregina Would you care to say example of these nefarious conspiracy theories? And psyop fake theories have to be excluded.
Is it safe to say that "Shinning Analysis" is a genre unto itself now? If so I think we can agree that this is a triumphant standout in a crowded field.
"Shinning"
@@mikespearwood3914 I'm going to use my....."shin" to contact Willie
I haven't watched this one yet, but Truth Stream Media's first two parts (three more planned, and each of the first two are close to two hours in length) take the crown so far as far as I'm concerned. They really dig into actual research, not numerology theories.
So yep, you're either dogs barking mad; or a flipping genius.
Either way, yes please. More of this
There is an incredibly fine line between madness and genius. Hardly any geniuses aren’t mad.
Sometimes, there isn't much difference between the two. Kind of like, there is a thin line between a Foe and a Friend type of deal.
What happens if I watch this TH-cam video forwards and backwards at the same time?
It creates a black hole and we are all consumed.
Nothing happens UNLESS you're listening to "She's So Unusual" by Cyndi Lauper simultaneously. If you do that...EVERYTHING happens.
When I first watched the shining when I was 10 I thought it was rubbish because it didn’t make sense and nothing tied up. Now 30 years later, I’m analysing the film and looking at what sort of effort that went into choosing every object and word in Stanley’s films and I’m (thrillingly) flabbergasted 😲❤️
Wendy is mad and imagines it all.... That's why everything moves around... As soon as they are in the food store and the first things start moving like cool aid appears and is on top of Wendy's fridge at the start... Wendy is imagining everything pretty much and she kills Jack when hits him with the bat.... Check out the wendy theory
@@captainkidd1811 I checked out the Wendy theory and it was great! X
@@captainkidd1811 Gaslighting the victim, my favourite.
Enjoying a cup of tea whilst watching this masterpiece down the rabbit hole...we’re all mad here! Cheers! ☕️🫖
This does sound nice.
I keep taking breaks to process it and not go too mad. Lol
Tea?! I'm on my second cup of espresso
Coffee for me, please. We here in Serbia prefer coffee. I am about to start watching the documentary :)
This was a great watch! You've either cracked The Shining, or you've cracked... Just one question though - if Kubrick planned the timing out so meticulously and intended for the movie to be viewed forwards and backwards, why did he recut it after it opened in America? The international cut is about 30 minutes shorter and a lot of the symbolism you discuss here is removed
Hi Andy 1111, thanks for the question.
I've answered this in a few comments already, but my feelings on this boil down to a few points.
1) The European version of the film ends around 117 minutes. I've never seen it, so I don't know the exact second that version fades to black, but if it's around that minute, that's our Tower of Babel number, right? So by removing sequences necessary for understanding several of these codes, Kubrick has "confused the languages" of his more complete version. Also, the One By One soundtrack is 38:43, which could potentially fit perfectly three times in that version, if it's around 116:09.
2) There's an interesting phenomenon I'll be discussing in future videos where the ghost ball that rolls up to Danny in the Extended cut is pink while the ghost ball that rolls up in the European cut is more golden. Pink and gold are Wendy's "favourite colours". These are also colours that appear in abundance throughout the hotel, in interesting ways. My theory boils down to the idea that pink symbolizes fantasy, while gold symbolizes reality. So the extended version is about fantasy, while the European version is about reality, but it's not as simple as that would seem to imply. Like, if you only watched the European cut, you would never be able to make sense of Wendy's Four Horsemen trials, because "famine" is missing. So that would take the analyst further away from the fantastical nature of that string of clues. Long story short, I think the two versions are meant to feed off one another, and work to further the larger fantasy/reality context.
Also, it's entirely possible the European cut works on a mirrorform basis too, but, again, I've never seen it.
Andy 1111 boo yah indeed. Lol. If you couldn't figure that out on your own. Then rewatch. Lol
because Beatles albums released internationally are almost always different than the US version. so maybe that's why he did it.
@@PauseFilms Im only 20m in, enjoying the video, but not gonna lie, i was thinking exactly what you just commented.
@@PauseFilms I agree that there are a lot of stretches here; the whole Beatles thing seems pretty silly. But knowing we all know about Kubrick, I wouldn't say that any analysis of this movie is unwarranted. A lot of his weird messaging came through in editing. There is definitely more at play that the movie simply as it is shown.
Just wondering if anyone noticed the ash on Wendy's cigarette. Anyone who smokes will know what's wrong. It's a bit cumbersome to explain but essentially in between cuts the cigarette changes from one that hasn't been ashed since it was lit and allowed to burn several minutes to a cigarette that had been ashed at some point within those several minutes.
Ash game lmao
Not all continuity errors are mysteries, you know.
@@chuckschillingvideos with kubrick, you never really know. Even an eye-blink might lead you down a rabbit hole.
The fact that ash is ready to fall - but doesn't adds to the tension. At least for me.
I'm actually heard that scene discussed before.
this video makes me question my own sanity more than the movie itself, this is one of a kind i love it
th-cam.com/video/wRr_0W-9hWg/w-d-xo.html Question Wendy's sanity........
Only 37 minutes into this and I'm loving how deep a dive you took! Thank you for putting this together, must have taken ages.
Your analysis is the strongest and most detailed. Thank you very much.
i literally come and double check your channel every week or so to see if you have uploaded your eyes wide shut video! im so excited for it
This guy is a mad genius. Wow. Not sure how much is valid, but he is next level, truly a fantastic brain, and it was a really fun trip to go into his mind as it interprets this dreamlike and haunting film.
Absolutely fascinating. Kubrick seemed like a man who paid attention to many things around him over his life, far more than most people, and it shows in this documentary
Definitely a Skeptical Scully here. Still, massively enjoyable. I don't really know what to think. Excellent job.
From one Skeptical Scully to another, you at least gotta admire his passion lol
Here to agree with both of you! The guy definitely put in the effort. This just seems like a bit much even for an incredible genius.
I saw a video where Wendy is the one going crazy. It is still pretty complex but a much more "simpler" explanation. Which seems more on par with a genius. Kind of an Ahkam's razor thing.
But what do I know.
Right!? Like all of this is extremely intriguing and compelling but at the same time, it’s all so complex that it almost makes the most sense it’s a coincidence.
@@NecroMancer84 there is more than one video explaining why the wendy theory is bunk nonsense, but you have fun with that
Danny escaped from the maze by following his footsteps, no code or lessons needed.
that is analogous to mirroring the movie. its going forwards and then backwards
So I have watched this a couple of times now..( great work)..I am obsessed..just a little note for you..
1. The Beatles had an American Saturday morning cartoon that ran for 2 years.
2. The final photograph always kinda reminded me of the Sgt Peppers album cover
3. John Lennon's mothers maiden name was Stanley.
4. In the subtitles of the movie Jack sings San Francisco here I come in the final maze scene...The Beatles performed their "final" concert in San Francisco at Candlestick park before they went to their " studio session" years..
I went to The Beatles Wikipedia page after the 2nd time watching this, and some other things popped into my head..but I need to organize my thoughts before I can put it into words..
But I think you are really well researched...and have set my brain on fire..Kubrick would be proud..
Also..during filming Jack Nicholson was dating a woman named Winnie and Shelley Duvall was dating Ringo Starr during filming..
I wanted to share what your information helped me figure out. The implications are pretty wide ranging, and have helped make sense of a few mysteries. Thanks again!
eyescream237.wordpress.com/bombo-oct-6-1921/
Noticing the gemini twins, the mirror images, and prevalent use of mirrors throughout the movie, and relating that to Lewis Carroll's "Through the Looking Glass", I started noticing what hand each character uses, and it seems that Jack, Wendy, and Danny are all ambidextrous, OR perhaps we are only seeing their mirror image or alter ego sometimes, for some reason. First I noticed Danny seems to use his left hand for Tony, at the beginning of the movie, but when he gets to the hallway with the Grady twins, after that he's talking to Tony with his right hand. Wendy seems to be smoking with her right hand, but using her left hand to hold the telephone receiver, and the knife she carries later on in the movie. Jack seems to be right handed, but when he's in the storage locker he's using his left hand to try to get out. He swings the ax with his right arm, but he uses his left hand to try to unlock the bathroom door. It's totally possible that they are all ambidextrous, but I think that's kind of improbable. It feels like maybe Kubrick was trying to say something. I'd have to go back scene by scene to try to figure out what it was.
You should watch the wendy theory 👀👀
Like it doesn't mention what you said, BUT it may be interesting for you
Not to ax your theory, but sometimes people defy their handedness, and prefer the other hand for specific things. For example: Learning to shoot (military) when you're cross-dominant (dominant hand and eye are opposite.) You can't satisfy both, and you're eye isn't going to change. So even though i'm right-handed, I instinctively hold a rifle left-handed. My theory is that this causes one to be artificially ambidexterous at that one task. But of course, Kubrick is a wizard, so...
That's quite an interesting notion. I really love Through the Looking Glass, I think it should be more common in schools... not enough people really read it or become familiar with its themes compared to its more famous predecessor.
@@chriscooksey27 left handed as well and can confirm.
HIAF here, gunna have to stop at 1:40:03 and come back in the morning. This Analysis is enthralling I may have to re-watch it a tonne of times just like the movie, great for long sessions. THANK YOU
I watched this a couple years ago and rewatching its every bit as genius as the first time. Whether ALL of these synchronicities were deliberate or subconscious on the part of Kubrick is up for debate, you picking all of this out is an amazing watch.
I'll
Not to burst anyone’s bubble, but the film was originally released with an end sequence involving Danny and Wendy at a hospital, which was later cut from the film. This would throw all of the timing correlations you’ve drawn out of sync.
This is unbelievable. I've never seen any analysis like this one. This film must have consumed you. Great work!
I'd like to watch an analysis about Eyes wide shut. It'd be really interesting to see what you can find out
Here's a thought for you. As The Shining is to JFK, Eyes Wide Shut is to JFK jr.
Eyes Wide Shut is an underrated masterpiece
I don't really know what it exactly means, but I can feel that it means more than a "husband gets jealous about an imagined infidelity" story
@@PaulMcMinotaur correct but much more. my favorite movie of all time.
@@duderama6750 I think it's the other way round. EWS is a deep and complicated study of the human condition, at its heart even more primal and jungian than the Shining. Love both movies though.
Just like masterpieces of literature have annotated versions, a masterpiece of cinema can have an annotated version too. Keep up the good work!
44:16 For those who think Kubrick wouldn't know anything about racing. His trusted help Emilio D'Alessandro was an ex-racing car pilot.Kubrick would ask Emilio about racing etc.
The red lipstick writing on the door always reminded me of Helter Skelter.
Most definitely relevant to the culture of the 70s.
@@petemartell677it was actually the 60’s
This is the exact kind of film analysis of The Shining I was hoping to find. The Shining and Twin Peaks are probably my two biggest inspirations in pretty much every creative thing I do.
Bach used reverse and upside, and reverse upside down melodies (retrograde inversion) in the baroque period, and some composers in the classical, romantic and modern periods used 'motiv-through' composition techniques, which sometime also include forward-backward symmetry. So, it wouldn't surprise me if Kubrick used similar techniques for film. Not too far fetched at all.
What a fascinating insight. Thanks, CayenneTravels!
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I enjoy theory and what others think about movies plus other things I look forward to so many of them .
@@canuckescapedid you mention how the carpet is a skull shape pattern?
The amount of work in this video is staggering!
It's ridiculous to think Kubrick did this on purpose. He was just trying to make the best film possible within the constraints he was given. yes there is depth and subtext but this would have taken Kubrick at least 5 years- consider what the technology was back then, this could barely be done today. The mythos of Kubrick doesn't need to be one where he is a legit superhero
@@ANALOGCLIPS dude simply said people shouldn’t read into it THIS deep. Either way the video was great and is a showcase to just how mind boggling the shining is and with that Kubrick himself was as a filmmaker
11:26 The way the song changes right as Danny comes onto screen, it just crazy. Also how the song matches so well with jack waking up.
I've come back to this video for several Octobers. The older I get the more I appreciate films, art as articulated expression by abstraction (better late than never), and the intentionality of auteurs. It frustrates me to see a product so internally consistent get hand waved away by so many.
The King in Yellow, True Detective (season 1), Ambrose Breas, Kafka, Jorge Louis Borges, even Delusion for a Dragonslayer; I can't stop spiralling into stories where the message is the awesome and terrifying power of storytelling rituals. Kubrick's version of The Shining is most-so one of these stories about stories on a scale that commercialized art may never see again. And it's a miracle it ever did.
Though only an introduction, the logic here is consistent and sound. At some point when the multiple overlapping and intertwining patterns coalesce and follow the rules established separately by each other enough, there's no room for doubt that there is at least something here beyond what is typically expected or asked of the standard passive audienceship of commercialized cinema begging to be seen, buried as it may be.
The fact that I can now understand that the bear scene was an illustration of how powerful men have the ability to control and corrupt even our most innocent seeming and formative medias (supported by many references to media, children's media, various cultures' histories and the propaganda from inside and outside of them, and the entirety of the logic behind Wendy and her being in the "Conquest Well") speaks greatly to how the simple yet complex and diverse language of art can make a dumdum like me feels smart for being able to relate to or converse about broader subjects in ways I otherwise could not properly articulate myself via engagement with media.
When I find out what REALLY happened to Robot Jones imma blow the lid off the whole circus.
Look at this damn movie. It has to be a major champion in the Coincidence Olympics
A lot of the "patterns" are nebulous at best. Pattern finding, as we know, is a trait of the conspiracy theorist.
Not dismissing this at all because it's interesting, but a good deal of intellectual generosity is needed to entertain some of the findings imo.
I can't believe how mind blowing this is
Now THIS is what I call entertainment! Incredible video! 237 stars out of 237 - would highly recommend.
If I want to overlay the film on top of itself, one playing forward, the other backward, at which points of the beginning and the end do I start and stop from? Are the credits or warner brothers logo included?
Where does Abbey Road start and stop? How much time is allowed in between having to flip the vinyl record over?
How do these elements remain consistent so we too can accurately analyze yours and Stanley's work?
Fantastic work, Joe. How on Earth did you identity all of the paintings in the film?
Thanks, round about midnight.
Well, I happened to have a lot of exposure to Canadian art as a kid. I grew up a short walk from the art gallery that houses Horse and Train, and that put me on track with Colville. A few of the Group of Seven and Copper Thunderbird ones I recognized by familiarity, but then I figured if we had a couple Go7 works, there would be others. And then I realized that, if we've got Colville and Go7, then we've probably got others, like Thomson, Gagnon, Krieghoff, and so on. So there was a good deal of deduction to start with, but once other nationalities crept in, my search had to broaden. Which was daunting at first, but there's certain tricks I'd picked up at that point that made it a little easier. For instance, Pinterest has a helpful mechanism where you can search by similar images (Google lens has this now too). So if you can find something similar to what you're looking for, and then search that way, you might get lucky. Though it's proven to be a long shot in most cases.
One of the really crazy things is how certain of the images were only searchable for a brief window of time. Like the Gagnon piece, Trapper's Camp. I've had users of my website tell me it's not online anywhere except on my site now. So I got really lucky there, and with a few others. Like a certain knitting of a boy and girl seen in their Boulder apartment. That stopped being searchable before I even launched the site.
But if you mean, how do I have the patience? It's actually soothing in its way, scrolling through these massive art databases, like artnet.com or mutualart.com, seeing the complete works of all these great artists. So, the search is its own reward, really.
I had understood that Kubrick had set up twinning and reflection imagery throughout the film, but I never understood his motivation to do so. Your analysis suggests the why.
I love you and bless you all, who can appreciate such a deep dive. It’s so beautiful to see so many Shining fans uniting here
I hope you still see these comments OP: Remember that film was a physical medium at that time. Kubrick could have literally could have put the reels on top of one another, and look through them as one image. Dont know if its before your time but you can demonstrate this with slides from an old projector. This is the key to supporting this as aplausible explanation.
Totally aplausable of an explanation! Lol
Yeah, I thought about including that, but it ended up being one of the many things lost in the trimming process. There's an accountant's office behind reception that has the name Henry Callahan on the door. Harry Callahan was a photographer famous for double exposing his images to create such effects.
And Lolita is thought to be a mirrorform novel by some, so it's possible Kubrick picked up the technique at the beginning of his career from Nabokov. I've lately begun to wonder if all Kubrick's films might possess a mirrorformity.
And while you could run the experiment as you say, film projector bulbs are notoriously hot, so I wonder if the two layer process you're proposing would be as effective as, say, getting two projectors, and running them simultaneously, pointed at the same square of screen. Synchronizing them might be a little more nightmarish - especially since a film this long would take multiple reels. It would probably be a lot easier knowing that each frame was synced by holding the two strips together, but then that means actually doing that for as many yards of film reel. I wouldn't put it past Kubrick to ask one of his assistants to do that for him, but it almost seems too cruel. The two projector approach would be a lot more time effective.
And it's also possible (not likely, I would imagine) that Kubrick never watched the mirrorform. It's possible he simply sat down, figured out what all would go in his 8463 seconds of visual film, maybe even second-by-second, and then wrote out a list of how long each shot and sequence would have to be in order for the mirrorform to work, and then knew it would be as he wanted it during the editing process. It's hard for me to imagine he wouldn't want to see it, especially since it flows so gorgeously with the music (even my skeptical partner has admitted that Redrum Road is gloriously entertaining to watch), and why go to such lengths if you didn't want to sample your own goods? To see what people like us would later see, and to imagine our reaction.
So, lacking evidence for exactly how Kubrick would've interacted with his creation on this level, I've opted to stick as much as I can to the things that are for certain. As for slide projectors, I would make a terrible Mulder if I didn't know what slide projectors were... ;)
Thanks for the feedback! I was thinking of him looking at key scenes on the film strips, overlayed. But I think youre right about him being able to do that all in his head just as well. Im hoing to have to examine the novel of Lolita. I hadnt heard about the mirror effect in that one.
This analysis is too good! Excellent research/video! 👏
Only one problem: It's very easy to fall asleep while watching your videos because of your extremely soothing voice.
The Shining is a Rabbit Hole for film enthusiasts, academics and anybody with an interest in Stanley Kubrik.
I saw this film loads of times over the many years since it was first released and most of the theories and interwoven but subtly hidden sub plots and side stories along with the geometrical film patterns and mathematical references is just mind blowing.
The man was on God level mode when he made this film.
I love your editing style and soothing tone of voice, but I'm with Scully on this one.
idk if i'm stupid or what, but i feel like i need an analysis video just to break down what this video is trying to communicate to me.
Yo, where that 20 something part series at?
Finally an analysis video that’s longer then 10 minutes
Edit: Damn I had no idea how much detail was added to the film, I literally just watched it a few days ago and never noticed any of this.
Something else: the final shot with the photo wall also has 2 3 7 in it. The candelabra on the wall has 2 candles and we get 3 rows of seven photos. )
What a fortuitous serendipty that I should find this video on the same day when I was asking myself how do I think more like Stanley in the construction of my own films. I watched this from start to finish, blown away by the depth and complexity of this analysis, and the ending was especially poignant, inspiring...revitalizing. Thanks for creating this masterpiece of a deconstruction and sharing it here. I've no doubt that it will continue to challenge like minded artists to dig deeper, go further and push harder
I watched the first half of this video sober, and at first it was interesting. But then I watched the second half while high, and it was VERY interesting.
Thank you for sharing your analysis. I do hope all art continues to ripple and develop within itself, and for us to develop the eye to appreciate it deeply
This....this might be the smartest thing I've ever seen.
If you weren't making videos like this, you would probably be destroying the world, so keep making videos like this please.
I feel like I've gone from being creeped out by the film to being creeped out by Kubrick. For years now, I've been intrigued by the hidden depths he put into this film. But after seeing this video, I feel disturbed by...well, whatever his mental state was at the time. I consider myself an obsessive person actually, but his filmmaking was apparently that of an obsessively obsessive mind.
How is this not more popular? This is insane.
The scene that is mirrored with Wendy finding the broken vehicle, also is mirrored in context, the old man is telling them about the food in a survival sort of way, and the wrecked vehicle speaks of danger of survival.
Wow! Talk about a comprehensive analysis!!! Very impressive!!! Sort of dumbfounded how much there is to this. Very interesting!!!
“All Work And No Play Makes Jack A Dull Boy” is 2160 in english gematria (precession of equinox like youve mentioned) and 360 in simple gematria (circle=pi)
You're doing important work my friend (very well I might add); don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.
I've always thought of Kubrick as a cinematic genius, but my reasoning had obviously been surface level. Thank you for opening my eyes to the true extent!
Thank you, Joe. This was a very high-concept eye screaming experience.
I'm looking forward to go deeper into your detailed findings and further analysis.
Please make more videos about the shining! Your perspective and video execution is pure gold! I can’t remember the last time I was so enthralled to discover deeper meanings of such a story! Thank you thank you thank you!!!
The part where you focus on the four walking in a line like on the Abbey Road album BLLEEEEWWW my mind! 👏👏👏I loved this
Thank you for all your hard work
This is amazing. A stunning achievement in YT history….my mind is totally brown to shit. Thank you.
You must be a crazy person with post it’s all around the house.
Stanley's movies ruled my young life growing up in the 80s. Though I didn't understand his films consciously he hit me hard subconsciously he influenced my art gorever as hr giger did and rewatching his films now as an adult has been amazing
Can't believe I watched the whole thing (and in one sitting). Thanks
Me too
Wow, the amount of work put into this is astonishing! Sometimes it goes overboard, but nonetheless you found out countless things, that are fascinating! Really great work!
What Waltz plays at 25:23 ?? I’m having hell remembering who it is for some reason and I’m pretty familiar with classical composers 🤷🏻♂️
Schubert, piano trio in E flat op 100 second movement.
It was in the film Barry Lyndon by Stanley Kubrick.
@@DakessianHMadat thanks bro
I love, love, love THE SHINING! I will be checking out your other videos! Thanks for your channel!
“Quick and the dead” is from Hamlet as well, im of the belief Francis Bacon was the real Shakespeare though, you know, the genius who studied cryptography, science, botany, literature and was tied to royalty… and a Freemason ofcourse
From a Stephen King fan this video took a lot of work in regards to writing and deserve respect for it. Great observations must say.
I love this. I admit I always thought the novel was so much better than the film, but listening to your analysis has given me such an appreciation for SK's vision, I realize the the film is genius.
This is an incredible video essay huge respect for putting this out!
If all of these theories are in fact true, this movie goes beyond genius.
Of course it is not. Stanley Kubrick rushed between his project and had no time to sit and think all this out. Time wise it is impossible. No one near him during the filming has said anything about this either. But Stanley Kubrick is a genius. And the way he stages a scene is from his artistry and it is perfection. Stanley Kubrick knows it makes sense that two character moves in two opposite direction in the hotel but it is Joe Girard who points it out in a very exciting way. There for you also find theories that is far from Joe's when it comes to this film. Holocaust, moon landing, gold rush, the native Americans, the sexual abuse story and the bet one of all The Wendy Theory, watch that one.
this video drove me insane but i loved every second
This video is 2.21 minutes long, so close, how dit you miss that :)
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“This piece he called his Madonna and child, and this Madonna and child by Leonardo Da Vinci was famously owned by the father of the woman who painted the first painting we see inside room 237 - Nadia Benois, and she was the mother of the only actor Kubrick ever directed to Oscar gold - Peter Ustinov, who played slave owner Batiatus in 1960s Spartacus.”
(clip from film) - “How easily impressed you are, Ramon.”
Best logic and best video editing of all time.
The first thing that comes to mind regarding your theory is the fact that the European release had roughly 30 minutes of footage cut out of it, by Kubrick himself. Seems unlikely that the mirror imagery would still work, but I can’t possibly say for sure.
He stated on several occasions that he made these cuts because he believed that European audiences would understand it easily, and with less information. This leads me to believe that the European version must be HIS intended version. Perhaps his assumption that a European audience would be far better students of his intended themes, like Greek and Roman mythology, had something to do with it.
Unfortunately, I have yet to find a reputable version of the original European release, but i’ve always believed that the real answers can be found by studying, comparing and contrasting which scenes Kubrick methodically chose to remove for what he viewed as a more astute European audience.
I'm seeing this criticism pop up a lot, and yours is perhaps the most substantive reflection.
My feeling is that the 144-minute version I'm analyzing was intended to function in all the ways I've described - again, apply the "cartoon Shining" logic, and nothing I'm saying is wrong on a technical level, so the question is only whether the analyst finds the resulting interpretation interesting. But I have wondered about the 142-minute and 119-minute versions (as well as the lost 146-minute version, and the 3+-hour original cut that Wendy Carlos was asked to compose an entire score for, before the "great gobs" of scenes were removed). Is it possible they all have their own forms and functions?
That's a complex matter, so I'll boil it down to a pro and a con. The con for whether the "European cut" (119 minutes) was the "true" or "master" version of the film is mainly undercut by whether my findings are correct or not. So, I've never seen that version, but I've read a list of the scenes that were removed, and the one that jumps out at me the most is that Wendy's encounter with the "skeleton ball" is missing. If my Four Horsemen analysis is as accurate as I believe the evidence shows it to be, the removal of that scene would make it impossible to realize what Wendy achieves in the 144-minute version. Every removed sequence or moment has an effect like that, but that's the simplest one to relate.
The pro for the European cut still being a version worth analyzing is in its length. The "144-minute" version is actually only 2:21:17 of pre-credits movie. So it's possible (again, I haven't seen it), that the "119" version is closer to 117 minutes of pre-credits visuals. And if you watched this video in full, you'll recall that 117 bears a symbolic connection to the Tower of Babel, and this notion of the 11x7 "Overlook Game Board". In the Babel story, Genesis 11:7 is about god going down to confuse the language of the people, so it's possible that this 117 version would be like Kubrick (the god of this movie, so to speak) confusing the language of the 141:17 version.
That said, there's also the funny matter of different colour tints used between the two versions of the film. So in the European cut, the ball that rolls up to Danny outside 237 is yellowish, and in the Extended cut, it's pinkish. If we read "yellow" as "gold", these are Wendy's "favourite colours" (or so she tells Ullman). I've shown the evidence for this on the page that analyzes one of the paintings inside room 237, so you can see for yourself, though be warned that it contains NSFW images (eyescream237.wordpress.com/dog-boy-and-st-john-river/). How I noticed the gold ball was by rewatching Room 237, which was apparently edited using that version of the film.
As for European audiences being better suited to that version: perhaps. I'd be interested in seeing a unique study of it - I'm certainly too wiped from all this to try it myself. But I'm Canadian, which is probably how I started by getting so many of the Canadian paintings throughout the film. And the hardest ones for me to get have been the Asian/Russian pieces. So part of me wonders if the various versions of the film weren't made with a global audience in mind. I certainly couldn't have identified but a fraction of the artworks without the internet (or without a truly genius art expert), which is like having the world in your living room, right? But I agree that his removal of those select scenes was likely done with great care.
The European version was 2:21:17 huh? Kind of like the duration of this video? 👀👀