The hand brake and foot brake systems really should be entirely separate from each other to prevent these sorts of issues turning into complete brake failure while on the road.
Modern vehicles all have tandem mastercylinders as standard so he would never have lost all brakes anyway he would still either have the fronts or the rears depending on how he's routed it
Lee I think you have been very fair in your approach to this issue at the beginning of the vid. As someone who takes pride in every interaction I have with people, I would be embarrassed with the work done. Even if it's just advice, being wrong when someones safety is on the line beats a few quid.
Lee totally agree with everything you have said, being a driver also, I would suggest from now on anytime you have any work done to your car you check it out yourself before doing any type of motorsport. Us motorsport drivers should always check the work really before taking any vehicle on track just for your own piece of mind really!
I would personally use a dual calliper bracket (Gktech makes one) and have the hydro and normal brakes on separate systems, giving you two points of failure. It would also make driving it to and from events much easier as you could drive the car as normal as any Zed owner is like (trust me, I also have one) 😉😂
Thats frigging appalling! So many issues there thats its obvious Drift Force or whatever they where called dont know how to make brakes. The shoddy routing is just apathy towards their work, the lack of grommets is lazy and short sighted but the actual leaking unions is the scary bit that means people should know who the cowboys are. I'm taking an educated guess from experience they have done one of two things, either they have used the wrong tool to make the ends of the lines concave rather than convex or visa-versa or they have used 3/8 UNF unions in M10 cavities which will fit but are very loose and come apart with pressure in the system (this may also explain the rounded off nuts if they used a metric spanner on an imperial fitting). Its absolutely shocking though and well done Lee for showing what can happen when people who don't know how to work on brakes, work on peoples brakes!
Totally agree paid for my clutch doing for a 3 part clutch kit. They never told me that all they did was change the clutch itself and thats it and to top it all off my drive shaft flange thrust washers were snapped to bits. If u want something doing, do it yourself 👍
Lee don’t forget to put some paint or something over those exposed holes and then cover them otherwise you’ll be sending your car off to rust city pretty soon
Wow, that response from them is crazy. That's like going for an oil change and them putting back the original oil back in. Then when you you find out and voice it with them, they say "well you didn't supply new oil" 🤦🏽♂️
Ha! Its funny when my instincts are right. That place looked dodgy just from the state of their work space and the way they were putting the lines in 😳 Not always the case obviously and a ford main dealer actually rounded my wheel nuts and sent me on my way only to find out when I got a puncture on the M25 and couldn't get my wheel off 😡 Sorry you experienced this but these people are out there and we should share their work so they don't get away with such shoddy and dangerous work
paid a local company who deal in auto electrics. had my car for 2weeks with a roof fault. Got it back and found various screws missing/not done up. simple thing to get wrong ffs
That’s not a mistake lee thats f*cking idiotic workmanship, absolutely disgusting and damn right dangerous, the state of those brake lines and the fact they’ve not even used any grommets or sealants to make it all at least “look” like they know what there doing is beyond me!..you would of thought that any customer going to that company for work doing they would supply some grommets etc its appalling, some companies shouldn’t be “trading” if that what you can call that, glad nothing serious come of it and that your safe!..surely it’s comment sense that the hydro and foot brake should be completely separate🤔..obviously not🤣..think I speak for everyone when I say cheers for the heads up to stay clear of them cowboys😅..cracking job bro, keep smashing the content👊🏼💯
That garage should be ashamed of themselves!!!!!!!!!! I do all my own work on cars now, Took my car in because it had a misfire at idle and was told it was a fuel injector which they wanted to charge me £350 to change 1. I changed all 4 myself which cost me £114 for genuine Bosch one's only to find the garage ripped all the wiring to the fuel injectors showing exposed copper. I repaired the wiring and the misfire was still there, I changed the spark plugs, coil pack and the misfire was still there. I opened up the engine and found every single screw to the cams were loose. I removed the cams to check for damage and luckly there was none, put the cams back in, tightened them up in sequance and the misfire was GONE and now it runs lovely. I was determined to fix it myself because the AA and garages couldn't fix it and my mum had cancer, needed the car to go to the hospital for chemotherapy, she died sadly in December 2022 but I'm proud of myself for fixing it.
If it's regarding safety you should name and shame them. You have the right to, plus you'll be protecting others from getting the same happening to them
Hi, for that to work, you will need to to delete the ABS, other wise it will release the preshir on the brake that is looking,, they will fight against each other.
With regards to the holes that are drilled in the car with no grommets/sealant applied, unfortunately copper is very soft and if I was a betting man I would put money on the copper pipes being far softer than the metal that the holes are drilled through, so there is only one winner here, the metal. Worst case scenario would be a severed copper pipe caused by friction from the steel that the holes have been drilled through. Severed pipe equals no fluid equals no brakes.
even tho we all know the company responsible for this from watching the installation video BUT they should be named and shamed to prevent it happening to someone else and maybe resulting in a catastrophic brake failure could be fatal!.. the whole reason you wanted it done properly was for the peace of mind knowing it was done properly.. glad you got this before it was too late going sideways on track towards a wall! FLUMPING COWBOYS 🤠 ugh
That work is appalling, the holes in the floor are a ticking time bomb, but those flares were shocking. I always leave enough on to cut off and redo a flare if I'm not happy with it. I've never seen copper pipe corrode that fast either, but the more expensive ni-cop pipe is supposed to be a much better option
So here's my take. The fact they let you drive that car away knowing what a bodge and how dangerous it is, is disgusting. People make mistakes but that is no mistake. Corner cutting start to fiinish. They need to be shamed, not only is it a bodge but that could of potentially caused a serious accident. Garages that carry out that standard of work should not be open.
@Lee do you know what t pieces and spec/size of the lines you used? I want to install my hydro and I’m not paying out for extra brembos and duel mounts
Them lines are shocking 😱 a week old where they get the pipes from wish ? Best hydrobrake system is adding a dedicated caliper separate from the braking system
The quality of the work is shocking. I’d be reporting them to whatever professional trade groups they profess to be part of and refer also to trading standards. This could have had fatal consequences.
No reputable company would do a job like that, let alone on a vehicles braking system. If anything had happened and you had been in an accident due to brakes failing, I'm pretty sure the insurance company would be very keen to find out who's handy work that was? End of the day, you can't mess with your brakes and is the exact reason you took it somewhere to be done as you wanted it to be safe to drive. Did the correct thing high lighting what's gone on 👍
How can they say "it's just how it is on 350's".. Seems it can bolted to any car, regardless of wbat it is, just a case of being professional in your work. Well done Lee😉.
KWJ ALL THE WAY. that was a massive bodge from start to finish, I wouldn't want a set of AMP cables running like that never mind break lines, that was bad 😳 😬
fair on you as you gave them chance to reply but yeah some people would take quick cash then actually building something up which can result in having more customers
Happens way to often,but don't worry they will get what's coming to them. In the video where you did it. You tried to do a nice thing and go ce them promotion, but now that promo will come back against them as they will be known. Others may have used them because you have, so these videos are needed to ensure people don't have the same bs
You need 4 big chunky rubber blocks for that lift and it will be bloody unreal!! Shame about the issues you’ve been having, in the process of trying to open my own garage. Shame they didn’t try and help with your situation.
Let's not forget and an unbiased opinion.... Lee, you were putting a lot of pressure on them to finish and they did tell u that it was dodgy/not happy with it aannnnndddd they took you for a a couple drives to test to make sure u were happy..... content content content that can brake a company 😌
doesn't mean they shouldn't check for leaks before letting him leave I'm sure you would notice it leaking in 7 fixings no wonder it was a pain to bleed
Jesus finze they helped him out and also gave him spacers for free, they were obviously not trying to f him over in any way, let's be honest, Lee is not an inexperienced guy when it comes to cars and if it was me I would have checked. I also agree it could be a mistake on yhe garage side but seriously ...... look at the unit..... its not exactly a top professional outfit and I'm sure Lee knew that and it was cheaper than a more experienced garage. IMO he got what he paid for 🤔
If it was a person's first time fitting that they would have done it better than them, a supposedly professional garage. I'm stumped at how someone can get that so wrong, it's really basic stuff
From my own personal perspective working in the trade, that is absolutely disgusting and beyond terrible, how they could've sent you out with a car in that state is beyond, I don't blame you for outing them due to their stinking attitude aswell.
did stevei wonder fit the hydro wtf man the lines are terrible man no rubber bungs for the lines no mounting pints no sleeves where the lines touch metal wow . dude glad your ok and it didnt write you off. when iv fitted hydros we have used a separate calliper system so if it did fail your normal breaks still work ( we never had a fail). but i get you didnt want to do that but wtf thats a mess
Name and shame other people need to know who to avoid!! If they knew the car didn't like hydro they should of told you that and obviously weren't happy to resolve your issue. Rounded bolts etc is school boy
I reckon they thought you were going banger racing not drifting…. What a bunch of cowboys name and shame them, save another poor bastard from getting ripped off/killed!
1 minute into this video I thought you were being unfair - as it seemed you hadn't reached out to them and offered them to resolve it, but instead were just angry with their standard of work and slating them....5 minutes in I now fully understand. What I don't understand/agree with is why you didn't name them in this video - if they're proud of that work, people who want a similar level of work might want to go see them!
@@fonze1035 I know that bud - but if a company can leave a car in this state and get away with it - and blatantly turn around and say it's good quality work, that's not right either, name and shame!
@@headleshydra I get you but lee did put a link to the install video so people could see who the garage was and he probably just doesn’t want the drama by naming them as that can get messy if things get taken further
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I had a bad feeling watching them install, thanks for letting us know we will stay clear
I was thinking very similar
The hand brake and foot brake systems really should be entirely separate from each other to prevent these sorts of issues turning into complete brake failure while on the road.
Deffo something down the line I’ll look into
If an inline hydro setup is done correctly and with quality parts it will be just as reliable as before.
Yep I agree.. I think you get a second caliper carrier for the 350/370z’s then you can run the hydro directly to it.
Modern vehicles all have tandem mastercylinders as standard so he would never have lost all brakes anyway he would still either have the fronts or the rears depending on how he's routed it
i remember watching that video and thinking that guy fitting it seemed a bit off.. no smiles no banter or even plugging his business.
That's so true. Plus he looked like he'd Rob your grandmar
Lee I think you have been very fair in your approach to this issue at the beginning of the vid. As someone who takes pride in every interaction I have with people, I would be embarrassed with the work done. Even if it's just advice, being wrong when someones safety is on the line beats a few quid.
It’s perfectly fair to call somebody out on bad workmanship. When you pay hard earned money for work it should be done properly!
Lee totally agree with everything you have said, being a driver also, I would suggest from now on anytime you have any work done to your car you check it out yourself before doing any type of motorsport. Us motorsport drivers should always check the work really before taking any vehicle on track just for your own piece of mind really!
Well done Lee good job , hate it when you pay and trust a business to do the right job and they can’t be bothered
Wow, astonished by the work. Fingers crossed they see the error of their ways and get back in touch
This is why I do jobs myself. I'm glad you got it sorted 😉
Mate you need to shame that business. What happens if they do it to someone else . Brill vids
Imagine if it’s someone else exactly dodgy b*stards
They are in the installation vid
Driftforce.
Totally right. What if they rip off a pensioner or disabled person
@@Sendit1118 is it actually drift force as I was thinking of using them ?
I would personally use a dual calliper bracket (Gktech makes one) and have the hydro and normal brakes on separate systems, giving you two points of failure. It would also make driving it to and from events much easier as you could drive the car as normal as any Zed owner is like (trust me, I also have one) 😉😂
Well done Lee ,boss job mate, that company are a disgrace, you could've been hurt or worse 👌💪🤟❤️
Thats frigging appalling! So many issues there thats its obvious Drift Force or whatever they where called dont know how to make brakes. The shoddy routing is just apathy towards their work, the lack of grommets is lazy and short sighted but the actual leaking unions is the scary bit that means people should know who the cowboys are. I'm taking an educated guess from experience they have done one of two things, either they have used the wrong tool to make the ends of the lines concave rather than convex or visa-versa or they have used 3/8 UNF unions in M10 cavities which will fit but are very loose and come apart with pressure in the system (this may also explain the rounded off nuts if they used a metric spanner on an imperial fitting).
Its absolutely shocking though and well done Lee for showing what can happen when people who don't know how to work on brakes, work on peoples brakes!
Totally agree paid for my clutch doing for a 3 part clutch kit. They never told me that all they did was change the clutch itself and thats it and to top it all off my drive shaft flange thrust washers were snapped to bits. If u want something doing, do it yourself 👍
That's absolutely shocking work.. I'm a mechanic was the owner of my own garage for some time.. you should of named them aswel.. dangerous mugs
Driftforce ....watch the installation video 👍
Lee don’t forget to put some paint or something over those exposed holes and then cover them otherwise you’ll be sending your car off to rust city pretty soon
So glad you have it sorted. Like you said we all make mistakes but for them to act how did is so wrong
Yeah Rochdale my area 👍 have a look at cowm leisure for your off roadinng in your Lanny
Wow, that response from them is crazy. That's like going for an oil change and them putting back the original oil back in. Then when you you find out and voice it with them, they say "well you didn't supply new oil" 🤦🏽♂️
Mistakes can and should be rectified. Every single TH-camr should follow your example here.
Ha! Its funny when my instincts are right. That place looked dodgy just from the state of their work space and the way they were putting the lines in 😳
Not always the case obviously and a ford main dealer actually rounded my wheel nuts and sent me on my way only to find out when I got a puncture on the M25 and couldn't get my wheel off 😡
Sorry you experienced this but these people are out there and we should share their work so they don't get away with such shoddy and dangerous work
Your 100% spot on get rid off them
paid a local company who deal in auto electrics.
had my car for 2weeks with a roof fault.
Got it back and found various screws missing/not done up.
simple thing to get wrong ffs
That’s not a mistake lee thats f*cking idiotic workmanship, absolutely disgusting and damn right dangerous, the state of those brake lines and the fact they’ve not even used any grommets or sealants to make it all at least “look” like they know what there doing is beyond me!..you would of thought that any customer going to that company for work doing they would supply some grommets etc its appalling, some companies shouldn’t be “trading” if that what you can call that, glad nothing serious come of it and that your safe!..surely it’s comment sense that the hydro and foot brake should be completely separate🤔..obviously not🤣..think I speak for everyone when I say cheers for the heads up to stay clear of them cowboys😅..cracking job bro, keep smashing the content👊🏼💯
Just dispute the payment. Shocking workmanship
Everyone makes mistakes, but it's how you deal with the issues is what makes the difference.
Mate it could of been the last mistake Lee ever made if he went into a wall at 90mph
That's not a mistake, that's a botched job by people who shouldn't be in the trade.
That’s not a mistake is just not giving a shit
@@gymbruh1824 or causing a multi car car crash on the motorway
@@jaytc2003 exactly bro
That garage should be ashamed of themselves!!!!!!!!!! I do all my own work on cars now, Took my car in because it had a misfire at idle and was told it was a fuel injector which they wanted to charge me £350 to change 1. I changed all 4 myself which cost me £114 for genuine Bosch one's only to find the garage ripped all the wiring to the fuel injectors showing exposed copper. I repaired the wiring and the misfire was still there, I changed the spark plugs, coil pack and the misfire was still there. I opened up the engine and found every single screw to the cams were loose. I removed the cams to check for damage and luckly there was none, put the cams back in, tightened them up in sequance and the misfire was GONE and now it runs lovely. I was determined to fix it myself because the AA and garages couldn't fix it and my mum had cancer, needed the car to go to the hospital for chemotherapy, she died sadly in December 2022 but I'm proud of myself for fixing it.
Ive been around the drift game in the UK for years, and can honestly say ive never heard of drift force before.
Did you comment before watching? Lol
@@leebo130 Skipped ahead, changed the comment now mate
@@vmks6580 skipped ahead, changed it now
Amazing how they can call themselves drift force and not even fit a hydro
If it's regarding safety you should name and shame them. You have the right to, plus you'll be protecting others from getting the same happening to them
Lee, the car is looking mint You had it re-sprayed or something 👍☹️
Hi, for that to work, you will need to to delete the ABS, other wise it will release the preshir on the brake that is looking,, they will fight against each other.
Jesus. Why I do almost everything on my car my self (unless it’s alignment etc) hate paying for shit like this
Wow man. Looks like a child did it😂 fair play for battling through dude.
You probably have but don’t forget to plug the holes left and under seal them!! Don’t want more rust!
should do what dmo did to Fabien
nice, at least we all know where to send our Ex's to for their brakes changing now 🤣🤣🤣
With regards to the holes that are drilled in the car with no grommets/sealant applied, unfortunately copper is very soft and if I was a betting man I would put money on the copper pipes being far softer than the metal that the holes are drilled through, so there is only one winner here, the metal. Worst case scenario would be a severed copper pipe caused by friction from the steel that the holes have been drilled through. Severed pipe equals no fluid equals no brakes.
even tho we all know the company responsible for this from watching the installation video BUT they should be named and shamed to prevent it happening to someone else and maybe resulting in a catastrophic brake failure could be fatal!.. the whole reason you wanted it done properly was for the peace of mind knowing it was done properly.. glad you got this before it was too late going sideways on track towards a wall! FLUMPING COWBOYS 🤠 ugh
Jesus wept....what a state.
That work is appalling, the holes in the floor are a ticking time bomb, but those flares were shocking. I always leave enough on to cut off and redo a flare if I'm not happy with it. I've never seen copper pipe corrode that fast either, but the more expensive ni-cop pipe is supposed to be a much better option
From the amount of bodge jobs I've had from garages I've completely given up on them. Do it yerself and you know it's right
Propa job done in the end well done pall
So here's my take. The fact they let you drive that car away knowing what a bodge and how dangerous it is, is disgusting.
People make mistakes but that is no mistake. Corner cutting start to fiinish. They need to be shamed, not only is it a bodge but that could of potentially caused a serious accident. Garages that carry out that standard of work should not be open.
Brilliant vid pal sorry I've not been on for for a while been going through a rough spot hope you are doing great
Love watching your videos mate this car need a rear spoiler body kit your the best mate I'm glad you sorted this before u or someone else got killed
Great video Lee Lockwood you done a great job buddy
glad you got that sorted lee defo didnt look brill first time round looks great now
@Lee do you know what t pieces and spec/size of the lines you used? I want to install my hydro and I’m not paying out for extra brembos and duel mounts
Nice and close to the exhaust too👍🏻
Weren’t you there with them helping them do it? Either way proper bodge job that
Them lines are shocking 😱 a week old where they get the pipes from wish ?
Best hydrobrake system is adding a dedicated caliper separate from the braking system
Decent work lee well done mate 💪🏼
Chrisfix does an amazing indepth video to fitting a hydro, maybe they should take note from it
Could tell they bodged it on the video just chucked it in
The quality of the work is shocking. I’d be reporting them to whatever professional trade groups they profess to be part of and refer also to trading standards. This could have had fatal consequences.
That garage reminded me of crest motorsport and we all know what happened to them..
They looked a set of rough bodgers when I watched the video, was surprised you used them?
No reputable company would do a job like that, let alone on a vehicles braking system. If anything had happened and you had been in an accident due to brakes failing, I'm pretty sure the insurance company would be very keen to find out who's handy work that was? End of the day, you can't mess with your brakes and is the exact reason you took it somewhere to be done as you wanted it to be safe to drive. Did the correct thing high lighting what's gone on 👍
How can they say "it's just how it is on 350's".. Seems it can bolted to any car, regardless of wbat it is, just a case of being professional in your work. Well done Lee😉.
KWJ ALL THE WAY. that was a massive bodge from start to finish, I wouldn't want a set of AMP cables running like that never mind break lines, that was bad 😳 😬
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This is why I don't like going to a lot of garages.
Driftforce cowboys , hit them up for holes in your car and leaking pipes they will be happy not to help ya fix any issues 😂
fair on you as you gave them chance to reply but yeah some people would take quick cash then actually building something up which can result in having more customers
Drift works
Formally
JOKE WORKS 😆 🤣 😂
I have used drift force loads and never had no problems and I’m still living so all good
All good? After see there work on here. Rather you then me 😅
What in the bodge job... That installation wasn't a mistake, it's just pure laziness and carelessness.
Happens way to often,but don't worry they will get what's coming to them. In the video where you did it. You tried to do a nice thing and go ce them promotion, but now that promo will come back against them as they will be known. Others may have used them because you have, so these videos are needed to ensure people don't have the same bs
Drift Farce 🤠
Great video 🙂👍👍
You need 4 big chunky rubber blocks for that lift and it will be bloody unreal!! Shame about the issues you’ve been having, in the process of trying to open my own garage. Shame they didn’t try and help with your situation.
Lee bodgewood 😂😂😂
Rite bodge job that lad !!!
If you want something doing right. Do it yourself 💪🏻💯 even if you struggle like fuck like me 😂
Wow, hopefully didn't cost you much for them to make a mess like that. Maybe try a vacuum bleeder if it looses peddle again
Let's not forget and an unbiased opinion.... Lee, you were putting a lot of pressure on them to finish and they did tell u that it was dodgy/not happy with it aannnnndddd they took you for a a couple drives to test to make sure u were happy..... content content content that can brake a company 😌
doesn't mean they shouldn't check for leaks before letting him leave I'm sure you would notice it leaking in 7 fixings no wonder it was a pain to bleed
@@lewiswilliams1870 totally agree and I'm sure I saw that they did, watch the video
Pressure or not if I’m doing a job I either do it correctly or not at all simple, no excuse for that mess of a job
You that guys Mrs?
Jesus finze they helped him out and also gave him spacers for free, they were obviously not trying to f him over in any way, let's be honest, Lee is not an inexperienced guy when it comes to cars and if it was me I would have checked. I also agree it could be a mistake on yhe garage side but seriously ...... look at the unit..... its not exactly a top professional outfit and I'm sure Lee knew that and it was cheaper than a more experienced garage. IMO he got what he paid for 🤔
If it was a person's first time fitting that they would have done it better than them, a supposedly professional garage. I'm stumped at how someone can get that so wrong, it's really basic stuff
From my own personal perspective working in the trade, that is absolutely disgusting and beyond terrible, how they could've sent you out with a car in that state is beyond, I don't blame you for outing them due to their stinking attitude aswell.
6:47 wow those flares are absolutely atrocious
That's proper shocking
Mate the way u did it craps on their way even if they did it right
Great job lee
Best Content ever
did stevei wonder fit the hydro wtf man the lines are terrible man no rubber bungs for the lines no mounting pints no sleeves where the lines touch metal wow . dude glad your ok and it didnt write you off. when iv fitted hydros we have used a separate calliper system so if it did fail your normal breaks still work ( we never had a fail). but i get you didnt want to do that but wtf thats a mess
Well done son
Name and shame other people need to know who to avoid!! If they knew the car didn't like hydro they should of told you that and obviously weren't happy to resolve your issue. Rounded bolts etc is school boy
Looks like someone couldn't be arsed to be at work. Glad it's sorted - how is it even possible for someone to fuck up so consistently on a single job?
Well done guys !
I reckon they thought you were going banger racing not drifting…. What a bunch of cowboys name and shame them, save another poor bastard from getting ripped off/killed!
Main thing this is not safe. U can loose your live if copper pipe rubbed through. How a workshop can do something like this
Thank you Lee xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Front tire is damaged too....
1 minute into this video I thought you were being unfair - as it seemed you hadn't reached out to them and offered them to resolve it, but instead were just angry with their standard of work and slating them....5 minutes in I now fully understand. What I don't understand/agree with is why you didn't name them in this video - if they're proud of that work, people who want a similar level of work might want to go see them!
Watch the install video and you will see who it was mate
@@fonze1035 I know that bud - but if a company can leave a car in this state and get away with it - and blatantly turn around and say it's good quality work, that's not right either, name and shame!
@@headleshydra I get you but lee did put a link to the install video so people could see who the garage was and he probably just doesn’t want the drama by naming them as that can get messy if things get taken further
cowboys and nothing else.
No wonder they had problems bleeding the hydro when it was first fitted COWBOYS 🤠 YEHAA
@lee Lockwood is that a wilwood 0.7?
It’s no wonder they were leaking at the hydro because those flares are terrible
Name and shame. Its life or death. Forget there livelihood. Esp when there work can effect or take many lives
Go on Lee!
Put some rivnuts in and bolt those T pieces down please. Lol
No wonder they're leaking!
Yes bro another great vid