How to Replace a Harley Davidson Starter Clutch : Weekend Wrenching
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If you go to start your beloved Harley and are greeted with a whizzing sound then your starter clutch has just given you fair warning that its life is short. We walk you through the replacement process on a 2003 Dyna. However, most Harley starter clutch replacements will very similar to this. You can knock it out in an afternoon with basic hand tools.
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This guy is the best. Plain, simple instruction on how to fix your shit. He's the truth!
Sooooo helpful, thank you J&P
Spent the afternoon following your great instructions after receiving my starter clutch from you guys and my Dyna is tip top!!!
Fits with the sounds I've got on my low, low mileage 2002 Street Bob! I'm talking about 3,400 original miles. Will not engage with a weak battery at all. You make this operation look simple but I believe it may be a lot of work not to be the problem!
Thanks for great video.
Tim, more than 45😊!
1st thing to do is make sure that you have a fully charged battery. Minimum voltage is 9.6vdc to start. If it’s falls below that, it may or may not engage at all. Also, low voltage can possibly caused the solenoid plunger to stick, and stay in start the position. Another thing to check is the starter relay. If your battery is hot and this issue continues, then it’s time to replace the starter drive. With so low mileage, I would begin at the battery.
@@petesantoro2827 00 FLH 270k. Dreaded that self diagnosed youtube fix. New battery & as advertised for weeks. Thanks.
I'm getting an oil build up on my '04 Fatboy. One channel said it might be an o ring inside this starter clutch. Do you think the same ? If so is it better to just get a new starter clutch or just the o ring. PS 46,000 miles on bike
@@petesantoro2827 A battery at resting voltage will be over that. Anything below 12V needs diagnosis including a load test (load testers are cheap online and worth owning)
and a charging system test (takes longer to get the meter off the shelf than do the test).
This is exactly what my son's 98 low rider is doing. Replace starter clutch later today . Already replaced Jack shaft. Fingers crossed.
Thank you soooooooo Very Much! After you making the sound a few times I knew this was my issue!
The video applies to all Denso OSGR Light Duty starters of which there are many millions on cars and trucks so you can benefit from reviewing those too. If buying a car clutch ensure it has the right rotation. Your contacts are likely fried at that point but these are not sophisticated parts and automotive kits come with all the seals and hardware for about twenty bucks online, just look at your contacts and compare or get the kit with both types. Every OSGR I own gets an aftermarket pushbutton which fit their coaxial solenoid housing and install in minutes with three screws. The buttons push the solenoid core everything in the electrical portion of the start control is bypassed. If you have a big twin starter lying around you can cannibalize it to fix a Sporty starter and the opposite is of course true.
Did all of that on my Indian just by getting my hands on it. I Did a great job on it it's all common sense. Saved a small fortune.
Another good video. I like how you make it look so easy, which for you I am sure it is. For us backyard mechanics, like me, I'm sure the time will be a little longer. Love how you're saving us a little $$$ while gaining a lot of knowledge.
Right on. Just take your time, you'll get it done.
Thanks guy's,makes the challenge a bit easier watching a video.Maranatha, Greetings from Tampa Florida 😎
Hi there from Australia. Thank you very much for your informative and interesting video. Although I won't be doing the wrenching myself, your video confirms what the issue is with my bike (same year anniversary Deuce) Cheers
The sound is accurate . Replaced my starter clutch on my 04 Roadster with a Drag Specialities item . The job on a Sportster requires the primary cover to be removed but the rest is fairly similar .
Did it fix your problem? I just started getting that sound (and some grinding sometimes) on my Sportster 1200.
@@Chris-0113 Oh yes . No problems since the new one was fitted . The HD Manual is misleading by the way . If you are on the HD Forum , my name is Midpegs . PM me if you need any advice .
@@bobgibb2781 thanks man! Really appreciate the quick reply. You just confirmed my suspicion. I'll be going with the AllBalls or drag specialities clutch as well, rather than OEM. I've been lurking on the HD forums for a while, but haven't signed up just yet. But now that I'm getting to know my Sportster pretty well, I figure I can probably offer some people some valuable advice. Thanks again.
Good video, my wife likes how you know when the clutch goes bad with the funny noise 😄 😆 😀 🤣
Great video, I did my starter clutch yesterday on my Evo. No more Gazoo noise. Starter is worker great. Appreciate
Thanks mate , did my Evo Softail today . Great help made it much easier
Thanks J&P for a very good instructional vid and making it fun at the same time, legend!
tHANK S A LOT, AMIGO!!! Regardsfrom Acapulco, Mexico.
Worth noting- be sure to only use high temp grease when lubing the inside of the starter. It's got a higher melting point and won't liquify like regular grease.
I'm had two starters and two ring gears the starters ate up both rain gears now what causing that problem
@@mikechildress6073 From what I've found in my research, it's caused by an undersized starter Harley used and the engine "kick back" that happens sometimes when you turn off the bike. I replaced the race gear with an aftermarket one from "AllBalls" and haven't had an issue. That gear has roller bearings inside of it and will only roll one way. So when the engine does that kick back, it plays hell on that gear. I've seen some people also install a stronger aftermarket starter to resolve the issue. Can't confirm this is the cause, but that's what I've found in my research.
@@Chris-0113 Do you remember what models were affected by the undersized starter?
@@Sinehmatic I just remember it being the 1200cc Evo engines. Not sure about particular years that were effected or just all of them. From what I read, Harley used the same undersized starter on the 1200 that they used on the 883. Just doesn't have enough torque for the 1200 with a higher compression than the 883, especially in hot climates.
But since my original post, I ended up replacing the entire starter, due to the same issue. I went with a higher kilowat starter from Allballs and have had zero problems since. The new starter turns the engine over much faster and without hesitation and no engine kickback.
I tried describing the noise... you describe it better.
Gonna have to either do this, or just replace the while dame starter on my sportster
Don't forget the ball bearing that goes under the small spring.
The clutch bearing is actually a one way bearing and can get damaged when the bike back fires while starting.
Good video cheers
Awesome Info...Thx! Yes, also having the 'starter clutch' not engaging. Will be replacing on my 2003 XL1200C..38K Miles.
Since I'm there looking into servicing warn copper internals..
Great vid with sound effects.....that’s awesome. 😃
This guy is good. Thanks for making that video. It helped me out with my situation. Jp parts kick ass. Make old school softail videos
Great vid.
Quick question, would could cause premature wear on your starter clutch? I replaced mine a few years ago, and it’s gone already, I know guys who have never had to replace it.
Could trying to start it with a flat battery cause it? That’s about the only thing I’ve done that I can think of.
Thanks again.
Same boat here, not even 2 years old. Cold hard starts with low battery is about the only thing I can think that's caused this.
Either way... changed the over run clutch or starter clutch and haven't had a problem since... Thanks so much for the videos. Super helpful and always save money! You guys are great.
That Biltwell bottle opener ignition cover! I miss mine. I had one on my first sportster but they discontinued them years ago.
Great vid mate, about to do it on my 2005 Road King
Good info, after the weeez comes the clunk😂
Great video, if you are going this far might as well put a rebuild kit in for the solenoid while the starter is out.
Great instruction. Thanks!
Awesome video with all the necessary details highlighted! Thanks.
wow what a great video, educational and fun as well. Keep it coming!
Now I have the confidence. Thank you Sir.
just an FY idea while it's out take a look at the solenoid plunger contacts behind the cover ...clean up the contact areas or replace them..just a thought...
Thank you and God bless you 😌
Correct me if im wrong, but dont dyna starters come off without the need to be a to remove the primary?
great video clear and easy
Great video and very helpful but, I don’t think that the starter bearing is to fit flush with the housing. There is a small gap so that the bearing is not rubbing against the housing. Please correct me if I’m wrong with a photo of one thats actually flush.
My starter started with a loud clunk. now progress to a grinding noise. What’s next? The zoom sounds? I placed my hand on starter I can feel the grinding.
To test the starter clutch, can you remove the starter, remote ground it, and hit the starter (with bike in neutral) to see if the pinion gear moves out? Will the solenoid move tbe pinion gear even if the starter clutch is bad?
I get a grinding noise sometimes. Bought a new starter clutch. Wondering if i will need a new clutch ring gear as well.
very informative, this is a simple job.
What about when your bike is hot and it makes gear grinding clunk noises when starting ??
Very helpful and well explained 👍
Did you change the outer primary gasket?
Thanks for a great class !!!
I've replaced my starter clutch, jackshaft pinion gear, the pinion gear bushing, and I still get that spinning sound, I went ahead and ordered a whole new starter I was just wondering if there's anything else I could've tried first.
I had my starter rebuilt with OEM part IE Starter clutch! the dude said its bull hash when I told him I need Hi torque starter clutch, He said, they are all the same as stock clutches.
I have a 124" S&S High Compression motor. When I hit starter, it cranks then grinds, I think it is bad Starter clutch. Took plugs out and it cranks fine, reinstalled plugs then cranks and grinds! Is this a bad / weak starter clutch? I installed new battery also. Oh This is on my 1999 FLHR Bagger the motor is in. I took primary off and watched it while i hit starter and the Jack shaft gear never backs away from ring gear. Im thinking its the clutch. whats your thoughts? thanks Merry Christmas
Would the sportster starter be somewhat the same deal ?
Can you show how to change the ring gear and not the whole clutch pack with it I have a 2008 Softail Deluxe and the starter hits a spot once in a great while I have found out it is the ring gear that needs to be replaced and I've talked with several mechanics some are bozos and are looking for a high-dollar fix
How did you get the shaft out? Mine is stuck in
Nice lesson. One ? How come most repair videos don’t end LSIW look see it work or fire and kill? Not that anyone can’t do it right more to add confidence to viewer knowledge.
Very usefull well explained
What if it's an intermittent failure (say one out of 20 times) and it makes a bang (ouch!). Also, it seems like on my 2012 FXDC I don't have to go through removing the primary case - right? Wrong?
Do you have any video showing same procedure on a Indian chief 2000 with S&S motor?
Good informative video. I was wondering if replacing an entire starter, is OEM the way to go?
You could if you wanted to spend $250 - $300 instead of $50-$60. The starter clutch could go bad and the starter still be perfectly fine.
Imo, OEM starters are shit. If replacing the whole starter, I would go with an AllBalls 1.8kw starter. They're pricey, but worth it.
What & whee does the fluid go in the stator?
Man... love your videos! I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if there is anything else I may be missing. Literally had zero warning signs of my starter or starter clutch drive assembly of failing. My starter is spinning but won't turn over the engine obviously, but what pushes the jackshaft over to engage? The solenoid? Is it possible this is electrical? Solenoid failure?
Hey is red and tacky greese ok to use
Just started this procedure on a 1999 FLHR Road King. Can you tell me if the starter will clear the oil fill assemby and slide out?
It should come out.
@@jpcycles It cleared the fill assembly just fine - THANKS- my bike starts every time now!
What would cause the idler gear to keep breaking ?😊
100 inch evo just clicking pretty sure Idler gear again has compression releases as well
My 1994 flstc with 6700 miles does that once in a blue moon! Should I do that?
If it starts happening more often, say once a week or so you should plan on swapping it out for a new one.
What if when you press the start button, there is a loud click, nothing else?
That could mean a few things. I'd start by checking the battery, could be dead.
Hey great video. I know this was posted a year ago already, but I just came across it because my 2005 sportster 1200 roadster is making a sort of grinding noise when I start it with the engine hot. Never does it from a cold start… only when I stop for gas or something like that, shut off the engine, and then go to restart the bike soon after shutting off. It makes the grinding noise but then always starts right up immediately after. Doesn’t do it all the time from a hot start either. Anyone know if this would be the starter clutch, or something else?
Thanks This is what I needed to know.
Great video. Good information, lol. Good job
I’m few years too late…. But way cool sir!!!!!
Lol ! Do the sound again ! Thanks for the lesson . Back up and running dude !
What kind of grease do u use
he didn't start it but, at least he made the exact sound my starter makes!
Why does my keeper continually back out?
Muy buen trabajo
Nice and quick video. Like to see a real man not wearing gloves for a change!
what kind of lubricant is used in the video?
Excellent video. Thanks!
Hey brother I have a question. Have you ever seen the starter Bender side gear jump out to far on the ring gear and get stuck? I had this happen to an 02 fxst.
Hey, great video!!! Do I need to replace the primary gasket? Or is the original gasket still good to use? I got a new one just in case.
if you have a new one use it.
Nice narrative
Great video, thanks!
What if it what that noise along with a horribly loud clanking sound?
Compensator sprocket
Excellent video
I like it
How about if you get a new starter and it still does that damn Zing? That's the Aggravating thing I'm going through with my 03 Electra glide.
Dead on bout the softail ... It can b done but what a pain ... Do you use lock tite on any of those bolts ?
on the 2 mounting bolts
@@jpcycles ok. Thank you
Idk. If you're going through the process of removing it from bike and the headaches involved if softail,, might as well just put a complete new starter
Good instruction regardless
Cost of a new starter is $250-$300 as opposed to only $50 - $60 replacing the faulty starter clutch.
@@jpcycles i agree and understand the material cost numbers. But what is your time worth?
@@dr.crentist3155 If you are replacing the starter you are still doing 75% of the work in this video.
@@jpcycles
And its a great tutorial
While I agree with your logic, the rebuild kits for the starter solenoid, clutch, and brushes would still be worth redoing. Starter will in essence be “new” internally, but same housing. And you still saved money. Yes, the labor involved is crazy for these starters, especially if you hv to remove an oil tank and primary cover like some bikes, but it’s still worth peace of mind in my opinion to redo the internals since your already there. Starters are actually still cheap and easy to repair.
Dam right 😊
Is thetr no ball beating
Is there no ball bearing ??
can someone please edit only the funny noises into a 3 minute video hahaha
Good video, but you didn’t mention that there’s a small bearing that sits on the end of the solenoid plunger. Dropping it could possibly send into another dimension from which there is no return…….. Been there, done that, bought a t-shirt, and burned it. Thanks
Hahaha that almost happened to me.
Im just fixing this thing on my dyna and when disasembled the starter, i saw that bearing running away from me hahaha, luckily i could find it. Now i keep it on a vault or so until i finish fixin.
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Why are all these torque specs "from... to..."? I always pick the middle of the two values. Why do the manufacturers dont just tell me one value?
Alot of manufactures do. HD is pretty notorious for the range. Picking the middle is good
Bendix
Ur Clutch sounds are funny and lube joke lol
Warning when this happens to your Harley and you take it to the dealer they will tell you the starter must be replaced and charge you $1000.
Sound of bad starter
on harlry
I think it's more of a click click click click sound
just an observation, Ive been a Harley owner now for quite some time and have come to the conclusion that the starters on these bikes totally suck along with the wiring to them ate, and then doing this job is a nightmare for most of us, , I had a pristine 16 softail slim with a bad starter and the thought of wrenching this bike and scratching the oil tank no matter how careful you are, made me sick on that bike , the factory exhaust , oil tank and a lot of brackets had to be removed to do this job, what a hassel