Major props on those close up shots of the fuel lines/filter inside the generator. The exposure and focus must have been a huge challenge and you nailed it.
Like others on here, I learned so much watching this. My new 4500 has been unopened for a year, still the original box. I've seen how to break it in, but not do maintenance. I figured "why, it's not in use!". However, your tips here will help me do the break-in steps. I've order the Oil extractor, gap tool and a few other things from your list in the description. I'll wait and do the break in after those items arrive. GREAT VIDEO! Your teaching style is thorough, easy-to-understand. Thank you. Subbed!
Thanks for the great tips. Simple to follow video. Used the links to order the replacement spark plug, the grease and the extractor. Champion did a nice job to include the drain hose but the extractor helps with even less of a mess. Running mine strictly on propane as well. Thanks again!
Thank you. I learned so much. Today I bought my first oil extractor. Life changing. And warming up the generator. Seemingly simple tips, but genuinely useful and helpful and brilliantly executed video. Thanks again.
Great video. I will follow this for my first maintenance check in the coming weeks. I picked up my Champion just before Christmas 2023. I want to do about another hr before I change the oil. I didn't know about the propane gap prior to your video.
Great video! Simple to follow and some great tips. Used the links to order the extractor, grease and replacement spark plug. Used the drain tube and thought it was nice of champion to include but the extractor looks like a game changer and even less of a mess. Running mine only on propane also.
Thanks for the effort/video! It will be helpful when I do these on mine especially since I only use propane too. Overall for my/our needs, this generator works fine. My spouse can setup and use it too. My one annoyance/problem is how to easily trickle charge the battery. I'm still trying to figure this out so it is easy for my spouse to do without the side panel being taken off/reinstalled.
You could get something like this and simply plug onto the battery. But check yours and see if the terminals are exposed. This would allow plugging right onto the battery and run the tail outside the side panel see here amzn.to/434tPVb
Thanks for the reply! I've got that tender or a similar model. The key is access to the battery terminals since the battery is "enclosed". There is an access opening on the end but pulling the battery out with the wiring has been a challenge. I've needed to open the side panel. I've been thinking of adding short battery leads to a SAE plug but have been worried about wire types to ensure the wire can withstand the temps of the generator when running. It was last summer on my latest efforts to find a solution. You've got me thinking about some other ways/ideas. I had called Champion before about getting the battery leads part but that part # was not known at that point so the rep didn't know how to put an order in. Anyway, thanks for the reply and helping me think thru some more ideas!!
Nice video. I filled my gas tank too much and some gas got in the generator. It seems like it didn't run as well after that. The other factor is that I'm in high elevation about about 7,000 to 8,000 feet high. Is there a ground fuse that might have burnt out? I ask because I plugged in my 30 AMP RV circuit breaker and it says "No Ground".
These units are floating neutral. Also you loose 3-3.5% of power per every 1000 feet of elevation. So you have lost about 25% of capable power. Even more when hot.
My 4500 dual fuel came with 10 w 30 non synthetic 16.9 ounces recommended in manual. Recently had a starting issue. Champion had me fill oil up to the brim of the fill entry point. That exceeded the 16.9 ounces recommended in manual . How long do you get with 20 Lb (5 gallon) tank of propane? Thank for the information found it helpful
Hey, thanks for the video. I do have a question. I have the same generator and only use propane. Had it for about a year. When I shut it off, it makes a few attempts to keep running. How would I take care of this issue?
The bag just makes it easy if you don’t have anything else and distributes oil on the filter pretty evenly. You can even use motor oil. But you only need to coat the outside lightly, this traps the fine dust particles verses when it’s dry it can actually work its way through the filter slowly. Its all in the manual for service
Informative Video, great content! Just purchased 2 of these and have been through the break in period with no problems. Do you have a lonk for the oil suction extraction device? Thanks
Yea seen it….And if it’s using the same engine as the Westinghouse 4500 and predator 5000 I would stay away. They all have a 224cc ducar engine and both models have issues. So if it’s the same I would pass. I may have to check it out if I have time
@gagelong9087 you are going to need a large generator then. At least 7000 max running so you are not always running the generator at max Here are a couple options amzn.to/3zUwjeP amzn.to/3XT8Q5E amzn.to/3XXJuU7 amzn.to/3XT9foG I like the champion and DuroMax Affiliate links
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@@johnnysweekends Dont know how often your unit is used. Treated non ethanol last a year in my climate. I do know that non ethanol with fuel treatment used in the nine air cooled engines I use on a farmstead saves me from using profanity as well as facing repair issues. I speak from "bought" experience.
@josephhester753 yea for me I just use a treatment that has PEA. So I use Lucas. Never an issue with it. I used sea foam for a while and tests proved ot doesn’t do as well for storage. But I’m not paying almost $9 a gallon for ethanol free. Which unfortunately is the cost for my area. But nothing sits for more than a year for me. About 8 months at most.
Hey I know it's not related but I have that genmax fuel pump thing I was the one that was telling you the piston gets stuck in it in mine anyway well they're sending me a new one now so I guess mine was defective
Thank you for your videos! I have been binging on all your videos. I think I have decided to pull the trigger with this one Dual Fuel generator, but really can't determine if this one can be modified to be tri-fuel. Is this something you think would be feasible with this Champion? If yes, which kit would you recommend?
I watched something that said if you only use propane it can eventually cause corrosion in the carburetor because no gas is running through it. Is this true?
I have never heard of that. If you have ran gasoline before and not properly drained it and treated it then yes the carb bowl and circuits could become corroded. But if only using propane the carb is just a entry point and never uses the carb circuits
@ supposedly the propane can cause condensation inside the carburetor, which eventually gunks it up. I’m going to contact Champion and see what they say.
there is very small filter on carburator fuel inlet.remove the black inlet hose from back side of the carburator may need carburator removal for good view
@@johnnysweekends I find non inverters open generators to be much tougher and easily serviceable as everything is exposed and has an efficient cooling system. Inverters have way too many electronic circuitry and an air cooled engine in a closed canopy is definitely not a good thing.
@danteerskine7678 sure open frame is way easier to work on, not to mention lighter and cheaper. But louder, and a non inverter is also not nearly as fuel efficient. But you can buy many open frame inverter units if you want or need clean power. Which more and more it will need to be especially with more and more battery back up systems coming. For construction get what ever, power tools hardly care.
Major props on those close up shots of the fuel lines/filter inside the generator. The exposure and focus must have been a huge challenge and you nailed it.
Awesome video. I love this channel so much. The content you make is of tremendous value, thank you for your hard work.
Thank you so much , glad you find it helpful 😀👍🏼👊🏼
Like others on here, I learned so much watching this. My new 4500 has been unopened for a year, still the original box. I've seen how to break it in, but not do maintenance. I figured "why, it's not in use!". However, your tips here will help me do the break-in steps.
I've order the Oil extractor, gap tool and a few other things from your list in the description. I'll wait and do the break in after those items arrive.
GREAT VIDEO! Your teaching style is thorough, easy-to-understand. Thank you. Subbed!
Glad it helped and welcome 👍🏼😀👊🏼
Thanks Johnny for all the pointers
Thanks for the great tips. Simple to follow video. Used the links to order the replacement spark plug, the grease and the extractor. Champion did a nice job to include the drain hose but the extractor helps with even less of a mess. Running mine strictly on propane as well. Thanks again!
This video is great, I just finished my long term maintenance.
Thank you. I learned so much. Today I bought my first oil extractor. Life changing. And warming up the generator. Seemingly simple tips, but genuinely useful and helpful and brilliantly executed video. Thanks again.
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Great video. I will follow this for my first maintenance check in the coming weeks. I picked up my Champion just before Christmas 2023. I want to do about another hr before I change the oil. I didn't know about the propane gap prior to your video.
Great video! Simple to follow and some great tips. Used the links to order the extractor, grease and replacement spark plug. Used the drain tube and thought it was nice of champion to include but the extractor looks like a game changer and even less of a mess. Running mine only on propane also.
Didn’t know that about the gap and running on propane. I’m going to get that oil extractor! Nice tips!
Awesome job! Great visuals and super easy to understand/follow. Thank you!
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Thanks Johnny! Exactly the information I was looking for and needed to know.
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Thank you awesome tutorial 🙏
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Thanks for the effort/video! It will be helpful when I do these on mine especially since I only use propane too.
Overall for my/our needs, this generator works fine. My spouse can setup and use it too. My one annoyance/problem is how to easily trickle charge the battery. I'm still trying to figure this out so it is easy for my spouse to do without the side panel being taken off/reinstalled.
You could get something like this and simply plug onto the battery. But check yours and see if the terminals are exposed. This would allow plugging right onto the battery and run the tail outside the side panel
see here
amzn.to/434tPVb
Thanks for the reply! I've got that tender or a similar model. The key is access to the battery terminals since the battery is "enclosed". There is an access opening on the end but pulling the battery out with the wiring has been a challenge. I've needed to open the side panel. I've been thinking of adding short battery leads to a SAE plug but have been worried about wire types to ensure the wire can withstand the temps of the generator when running. It was last summer on my latest efforts to find a solution. You've got me thinking about some other ways/ideas. I had called Champion before about getting the battery leads part but that part # was not known at that point so the rep didn't know how to put an order in. Anyway, thanks for the reply and helping me think thru some more ideas!!
Btw, just encase not clear, I have this same or very similar model as what you did the 100 hr service on in this video.
Great job...learned a ton!!!
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Outstanding video!
Thanks for sharing
Thank you
Very helpful!
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thank you so much ran my first through hell still runs but my first engine service was way over do i had less than half 5 oz of oil
Wow good thing you checked. Glad it helped 😀👍🏼👊🏼
Nice video. I filled my gas tank too much and some gas got in the generator. It seems like it didn't run as well after that. The other factor is that I'm in high elevation about about 7,000 to 8,000 feet high. Is there a ground fuse that might have burnt out? I ask because I plugged in my 30 AMP RV circuit breaker and it says "No Ground".
These units are floating neutral. Also you loose 3-3.5% of power per every 1000 feet of elevation. So you have lost about 25% of capable power. Even more when hot.
My 4500 dual fuel came with 10 w 30 non synthetic 16.9 ounces recommended in manual. Recently had a starting issue. Champion had me fill oil up to the brim of the fill entry point. That exceeded the 16.9 ounces recommended in manual . How long do you get with 20 Lb (5 gallon) tank of propane? Thank for the information found it helpful
Hey, thanks for the video. I do have a question. I have the same generator and only use propane. Had it for about a year. When I shut it off, it makes a few attempts to keep running. How would I take care of this issue?
Shut it off at the tank is normally the best way. If it still does it the regulator could be starting to go
Whats the purpose of oiling your new air filter with the plastic bag method ? Just curious, i wd think it would restrict air flow
The bag just makes it easy if you don’t have anything else and distributes oil on the filter pretty evenly. You can even use motor oil. But you only need to coat the outside lightly, this traps the fine dust particles verses when it’s dry it can actually work its way through the filter slowly.
Its all in the manual for service
Informative Video, great content! Just purchased 2 of these and have been through the break in period with no problems. Do you have a lonk for the oil suction extraction device? Thanks
Nevermind I found the link in the comments,thanks
@wippdriver1 😀👍🏼👊🏼
Just wondering if over time when using propane only will the carb just with humidity alone will dirty up and make running problems ?
I will have to research this more
Have you seen the 5500 dual fuel with remote start yet? I can’t find much info on it. Just ordered it from camping world!
Just found out it was released in July 2024. Model 201408. Seems like a great generator!
Yea seen it….And if it’s using the same engine as the Westinghouse 4500 and predator 5000 I would stay away. They all have a 224cc ducar engine and both models have issues. So if it’s the same I would pass.
I may have to check it out if I have time
@@johnnysweekends going to see if I can’t find that info
@@johnnysweekends what would you recommend as an alternative ? I need at least 4000 running watts…
@gagelong9087 you are going to need a large generator then. At least 7000
max running so you are not always running the generator at max
Here are a couple options
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amzn.to/3XT8Q5E
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amzn.to/3XT9foG
I like the champion and DuroMax
Affiliate links
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5w-30 synthetic Oil:amzn.to/3uuyFhRNGK Spark plug:
Gap Tool:amzn.to/3OMMWgDBrush kit:
Shop towels:amzn.to/3wfZVkFLong gloves:
Die Electric grease:amzn.to/42CwOnM
Air filter cleaner and oil: amzn.to/42DhOG4
Lucas Fuel conditioner :amzn.to/3OH4wTc
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For gas use,non ethanol is really the best ticket! Stabilizer for storage never hurts either.
Non ethanol is the way to go. Its worth every extra penny it cost.
$8.75 a gallon..? And a 20 min drive?
@@johnnysweekends Dont know how often your unit is used. Treated non ethanol last a year in my climate. I do know that non ethanol with fuel treatment used in the nine air cooled engines I use on a farmstead saves me from using profanity as well as facing repair issues. I speak from "bought" experience.
@josephhester753 yea for me I just use a treatment that has PEA. So I use Lucas. Never an issue with it. I used sea foam for a while and tests proved ot doesn’t do as well for storage.
But I’m not paying almost $9 a gallon for ethanol free. Which unfortunately is the cost for my area. But nothing sits for more than a year for me. About 8 months at most.
Hey I know it's not related but I have that genmax fuel pump thing I was the one that was telling you the piston gets stuck in it in mine anyway well they're sending me a new one now so I guess mine was defective
Oh good. Yea so far yours is the only one I have heard have an issue. Mine has still been fine during my testing but need to get more time on it.
Thank you for your videos! I have been binging on all your videos. I think I have decided to pull the trigger with this one Dual Fuel generator, but really can't determine if this one can be modified to be tri-fuel. Is this something you think would be feasible with this Champion? If yes, which kit would you recommend?
You would have to remove the internal or add a T and bypass it unfortunately
Thats what that long tool is?!, ive seen those so many times around spare tire kits on cars, never new it was for sparrk plugs looool
Where do we find that oil extractor you use?
I’m the links below the comment section or in description or here amzn.to/3Ia7hJ3
My 2000 champion generator starts but no ac power. What can I check?
I watched something that said if you only use propane it can eventually cause corrosion in the carburetor because no gas is running through it. Is this true?
I have never heard of that. If you have ran gasoline before and not properly drained it and treated it then yes the carb bowl and circuits could become corroded. But if only using propane the carb is just a entry point and never uses the carb circuits
@ supposedly the propane can cause condensation inside the carburetor, which eventually gunks it up. I’m going to contact Champion and see what they say.
@oneisnone7350 I see how this could be possible…not sure how long it would take..? Hours? Seasons ?
I’ll look into some units I only run on propane
there is very small filter on carburator fuel inlet.remove the black inlet hose from back side of the carburator may need carburator removal for good view
I didn’t see one. I will double check!! 👍🏼
the only tip you need to know for this brand....do not buy JUNK....ive had 3 of these nothing buy problems.
Considering most have had great luck with champion and this unit especially sometimes it could be OE… but every situation is different
@@johnnysweekends I find non inverters open generators to be much tougher and easily serviceable as everything is exposed and has an efficient cooling system. Inverters have way too many electronic circuitry and an air cooled engine in a closed canopy is definitely not a good thing.
@danteerskine7678 sure open frame is way easier to work on, not to mention lighter and cheaper. But louder, and a non inverter is also not nearly as fuel efficient. But you can buy many open frame inverter units if you want or need clean power. Which more and more it will need to be especially with more and more battery back up systems coming.
For construction get what ever, power tools hardly care.
I've got this unit and it's a massive piece of shit. Go buy a Honda.