The Harvi I-TE never gets old. Watching that 90% stepover for that long of a distance was amazing. The Heller has so much power too it's incredible! I can't wait to see you push the limits of this thing Barry!
@@importanttingwei7747 It has been gone since we got the Doosans in. Makino is good machines but they don't feel the same way Titan does about education. Titan wants to make sure that all the education we bring to our community is completely free and Makino didn't want to support that so we went in another direction.
When Titan said at the end that in the real world you would want to use coolant... But why (except for chip evacuation)? Would this not thermal-shock the cutter? I don’t know what kind of coatings are on the Harvi EMs, but coatings like TiAlN only gets hard when it gets hot; if I add coolant I’d lose the hardness I’d otherwise gain.
@@chulangmo5799 pretty sure it will only thermal shock if it is already hot. If you use continuous coolant from the start it should never reach those high temperature.
Easy on my old Alfred Herbert 12B with its 24"chuck and lots of HP. 15 ton monster turret lathe I had last century. Date on the bed was 1944, my birthday. Solid cast iron. Push a 3.5 " spade drill down it with 0.5" cut on the o/d. You are spoiled Titan.
The technology in these CNC machine I’ve been watching you for about five years for years whatever it is add from what you had then to what they have now it’s just unbelievable keep up the good work and yes watching tons of chips come off is absolutely jaw-dropping
For my study I went to a company which is almost fully automated with automated vehicles to move already clamped workpieces. It is amazing to see this stuff in real life!
I have been watching your channel for years now. I'm a 5 year machinist and trying to keep up with all the best tips to improve production. I understand radial chip thinning and trying to maximize depth of cut to get the best MMR. What I can't find is a formula for RPM change when lowering your radial tool engagement.
You can’t seee this in every cnc shoop. I knew that you would like Siemens, it is for far away the best control.Please make video wher you compare this machine with ex ibarmia with HH.
Good idea. Barry, please compare the most common NC-controls with each other, such as Siemens, Heidenhain, Fanuc and maybe even the Hurco control. P.S.: I agree with you. The Siemens control is the most userfriendly control in the market.
Please do a comparison run of the endmill removing material and a comparison run by turning it off. What’s the cycle time of each run ? I’d love to know…
I actually like that idea! I did it this way just to alleviate some of the torque concerns I had with turning, and thought it might be a good pointer for the times you run into a similar issue
It definately depends a lot what exactly are doing, what material, what is the diameter... Milling small diameter aluminium, where you need high RPM will be way faster than turning. Keep in mind those rotating table do not spin as fast as a lathe; it's often just above 1000rpm or even less than that on bigger ones. But large stainless or superalloy parts where you can't use high rpm, it may be way different.
I was just doing some mill turning today and was wondering. How do you calculate the Rpm you need to rotate the part at as well as the speed of them endmill to find out the chip per tooth and sfm. We were going full depth and milling out. ALarge pocket on a lathe feeding the tool into the material in the X and rotating the subspindle.
What was this one programmed with, and with which package? Was the initial post processor good from the get or did it require a few tweaks? KEEP IT UP!
Please help me with my math here? First cut is 2.250" x 0.075" x 300IPM = 50.625 cu"/min........second cut 2.250" x 0.675" x 30 IPM = 45.5625 cu"/min. Am I missing the rotary speed or something here?
The MRR here is difficult to calculate because the feed and speed given are for the back end of the tool that is cutting the larger diameter, whereas the tip of the tool is moving through material more slowly
@@barrysetzer Barry you legend. It’s not always you haha. But maybe it’s an Australian thing, we are more used to a normal tone of talking that’s more chill haha.
I'm sure that he didn't hurt himself. He knew what he was doing. A snowflake like you, I would recommend that you keep your little girly hands safe inside your pockets.
Very observant! I calculated this by measuring the outside diameter, then the finished diameter. the difference was 63%, so I reduced the feed at the tip of the tool by 37% so that the back of the tool was moving at the desired feedrate!
I have no need for that machine at the moment but I want one. How does the flute edge hold up on the harvi end mills? I've got a cast part with an interrupted cut that I keep getting nicked flutes on with our general purpose carbide end mills. I'm interpolating on a not so rigid setup and holding =/-.0006, which is easy peasy. Will the Harvi hold up? I need a solution...
They are absolute beasts. Did you see the one we did where we started full slotting with one that was already chipped to death from running for 2 hours in inconel? Monster......
I have a question for everyone out there in the machining community. I need to cut an M20 X 4 ID acme thread about 1.5 inches deep in 416 stainless. Tapping is not an option as we will be building a lot of these parts. Does anyone have any thoughts or ideas?
Climb milling is done 99.9% of the time these days… especially on high level machines. One simply reason is that all chips are behind the cutter instead of blasting in front, where the cutter would be running them over and breaking. There are times to conventional mill but ya… Climb Milling is King.
The Harvi I-TE never gets old. Watching that 90% stepover for that long of a distance was amazing. The Heller has so much power too it's incredible! I can't wait to see you push the limits of this thing Barry!
where is that old makino that titan did a few years ago
@@importanttingwei7747 It has been gone since we got the Doosans in. Makino is good machines but they don't feel the same way Titan does about education. Titan wants to make sure that all the education we bring to our community is completely free and Makino didn't want to support that so we went in another direction.
YESSSS BLUE CHIPS!!!!
When Titan said at the end that in the real world you would want to use coolant... But why (except for chip evacuation)? Would this not thermal-shock the cutter? I don’t know what kind of coatings are on the Harvi EMs, but coatings like TiAlN only gets hard when it gets hot; if I add coolant I’d lose the hardness I’d otherwise gain.
@@chulangmo5799 pretty sure it will only thermal shock if it is already hot. If you use continuous coolant from the start it should never reach those high temperature.
Just cut our first part on one of our HF3500s today. Really loving the machine! The rapid speeds are ridiculously fast haha. Nice work guys.
Easy on my old Alfred Herbert 12B with its 24"chuck and lots of HP. 15 ton monster turret lathe I had last century. Date on the bed was 1944, my birthday. Solid cast iron. Push a 3.5 " spade drill down it with 0.5" cut on the o/d. You are spoiled Titan.
Siemens control my favourite
Such a beast of a machine and Barry is just getting started! 💪🏻
YESSSSSS TORQUE!
Titans huge respect for you guys to show your capabilities online when people thing this as an ip
This is literally just an ad for Heller, and you got me to watch the whole thing willingly, bravo...
The technology in these CNC machine I’ve been watching you for about five years for years whatever it is add from what you had then to what they have now it’s just unbelievable keep up the good work and yes watching tons of chips come off is absolutely jaw-dropping
What a great video to start the day! Boom 💥 team titan. Going big for the first cuts! Love it
For my study I went to a company which is almost fully automated with automated vehicles to move already clamped workpieces. It is amazing to see this stuff in real life!
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I have been watching your channel for years now. I'm a 5 year machinist and trying to keep up with all the best tips to improve production. I understand radial chip thinning and trying to maximize depth of cut to get the best MMR. What I can't find is a formula for RPM change when lowering your radial tool engagement.
Um - that's insane sir. I love it. That HELLER is, as the French say..."Legit"
Great Thumbnail Brother
Need some decent swarf skips for that or a compactor
Barrels are for garage shops😂
Simply awesome, the machine did not even sound like it was loaded at all.
a single blazer barrel won't do it, if fill it in a few minutes working on that machine.
I'm so impressed with the endmill axial DoC to diameter ratio. WOW! Or make that BOOM!
Thank y'all for doing all of the instructive videos that you do!
Raising up machinists everywhere!
Thanks guys!!! 😊
You can’t seee this in every cnc shoop.
I knew that you would like Siemens, it is for far away the best control.Please make video wher you compare this machine with ex ibarmia with HH.
Good idea. Barry, please compare the most common NC-controls with each other, such as Siemens, Heidenhain, Fanuc and maybe even the Hurco control. P.S.: I agree with you. The Siemens control is the most userfriendly control in the market.
I already did. I am interested in Barrys point of view. In the workshop - what UI is closest to perfect, is the most userfriendly?
Great video! Welcome Heller to TITANS of CNC! What a great match.
O_O when Titan took chips :D
Yeah man, I learnt my profession also with Siemens controls and it's by far the best! (-> Sinumerik 840 D sl)
EAT the chips titan!!
Blaser should make a special extra big barrel for chips
I agree hahaha
As a vtl machinist I love this stuff
O man I am excited.
me too 😜
Awesome Video Barry! I think that machine really fits you! I cant wait to see you push the limits!!!
Hi Barry
Hey buddy!
Jeez the size if those chips!!!
Oooh man!!!
Hi Enrique! How's it going down in Houston!?!
@@barrysetzer It’s going great! I’m ready to make the “Titans of CNC BBQ Pit”. Design it and I’ll head down there and cook some steaks 🥩😛
This machine is totally worthy of the ole Tim "The Toolman" Taylor grunts! haha. Total beast!
This makes me want to go run my 1940s logan lathe today.
8:51 look at poor jessie! HAHAHAHAA
Please do a comparison run of the endmill removing material and a comparison run by turning it off. What’s the cycle time of each run ? I’d love to know…
I actually like that idea! I did it this way just to alleviate some of the torque concerns I had with turning, and thought it might be a good pointer for the times you run into a similar issue
It definately depends a lot what exactly are doing, what material, what is the diameter... Milling small diameter aluminium, where you need high RPM will be way faster than turning. Keep in mind those rotating table do not spin as fast as a lathe; it's often just above 1000rpm or even less than that on bigger ones. But large stainless or superalloy parts where you can't use high rpm, it may be way different.
Muuuuuuuuurrrrrrderrrriiiing the maaaaaaaaateriaaaaaal. Nice video
Klasse Bearbeitung, aber warum benutzt ihr keinen Spankontainer?
Das ist doch viel einfacher zu leeren als ein Fass!!!
Grüße aus Deutschland
Hahaha this is just a temporary bin, we will have a better one soon!
Super powerful
Solid!
Top KEK!
Peace be with you.
How much money do you lose on the removed material? How much can you get back from recycling?
BLASTTTT THOOSEEEE CHHIIPPPSSS BAARRRRYYYYYYY!!!!
whatever happened to all the Haas machines you had?
Can ChatGPT into Gcode?
ChatGPT is the future! Trevor is actually working on a video talking about AI and the future of machining. Stay tuned!
@@barrysetzer yay!
90% DOC in steel is impressive! I figured that had to be a monster spindle to handle that.
I was just doing some mill turning today and was wondering. How do you calculate the Rpm you need to rotate the part at as well as the speed of them endmill to find out the chip per tooth and sfm. We were going full depth and milling out. ALarge pocket on a lathe feeding the tool into the material in the X and rotating the subspindle.
UNA LOCURA !😱👍👍⚙⚙🔧🔧
Unreal guys!!! So sick!!!!
Why would you use coolant for this? Its a carbide endmill, they sustain longer without it, aren’t they?
Goat just the goats, best wishes feom germany. Love your videos. KEEP DOING IT GUYS!!!
What’s the biggest end mill that can be used in that machine?
Enfin de l'usinage sur titan, moins de bla-bla
Nice Job Girls!! 😊
I believe chips deserve a video of their own! do it please Titan.
Like all the chips sticking to the magnetic camera mount.
That is incredible keep up the great work
That's pretty badass
Your climb cutting tho convenstional would be better no???
Then you would be machining into your chips and running them over. Definitely not advised on high end CNC Machining.
Интересно, сколько времени заняла обработка хD
I’ve no words 🤯
What was this one programmed with, and with which package? Was the initial post processor good from the get or did it require a few tweaks? KEEP IT UP!
Mastercam
Yep we used Mastercam's multiaxis flow toolpath, keeping the tool axis perpendicular to the finished surface.
@@barrysetzer Right on! For some reason I wasn't thinking it was a straight forward flow toolpath. Very cool
How are your calculating torque?
Please help me with my math here? First cut is 2.250" x 0.075" x 300IPM = 50.625 cu"/min........second cut 2.250" x 0.675" x 30 IPM = 45.5625 cu"/min. Am I missing the rotary speed or something here?
The MRR here is difficult to calculate because the feed and speed given are for the back end of the tool that is cutting the larger diameter, whereas the tip of the tool is moving through material more slowly
Große Werbeveranstaltung für Kennametal und Heller ! Welche Art von Teilen werden auf dieser Maschine gefertigt. Wird da auch mal was gezeigt??
@@bavs92 Noch nichts in dieser Art gesehen
Good stuff Tyson.
Hey is there a central dispatch for small cnc jobs out there? Can you sugest a webcite? Thanks
Great to see titan back in the videos. Was getting a bit tired of being awkwardly told to like and subscribe by people who are over acting lol
LOL, well, I get your point. But you'd be surprised how many people hadn't realized they weren't subscribed until I awkwardly told people to do so.
@@barrysetzer Barry you legend. It’s not always you haha. But maybe it’s an Australian thing, we are more used to a normal tone of talking that’s more chill haha.
dont touch the chips with bare hands but what a great video
I'm sure that he didn't hurt himself. He knew what he was doing.
A snowflake like you, I would recommend that you keep your little girly hands safe inside your pockets.
how do you calculate this machining? have you ever use blue swarf modules or something like that?
What do you guys think about wele CNC mills
whats the power consumption per hour?
Whitch part of the tool you considered calculating feed? The tip of the tool milled much less material than the back.
Very observant! I calculated this by measuring the outside diameter, then the finished diameter. the difference was 63%, so I reduced the feed at the tip of the tool by 37% so that the back of the tool was moving at the desired feedrate!
I have no need for that machine at the moment but I want one.
How does the flute edge hold up on the harvi end mills? I've got a cast part with an interrupted cut that I keep getting nicked flutes on with our general purpose carbide end mills. I'm interpolating on a not so rigid setup and holding =/-.0006, which is easy peasy. Will the Harvi hold up? I need a solution...
They are absolute beasts. Did you see the one we did where we started full slotting with one that was already chipped to death from running for 2 hours in inconel? Monster......
@@barrysetzer I bought a few. We'll see...
You wont regret it. Make sure to let me know what you think 😎👍
Wow!
Can I get a print out of material classified as what if?
I wanna see you guys use a lathe and turn some 13-8 steel .
that swarf would pay the operator's wages
What do you guys do with all of yours chips? Recycling?
Yep, recycle
How does an endmill survive 90% stepover like that wtf
Hahaha its a metal eating monster!
try even wrost lol, try a Hedgehog milling cutter at full dept of cut(probably too much for that machine)
Does all this hogging really make that much of a difference in time savings considering you have to do an OP0 on the stock?
Haha. You always have to prep stock. Especially thos large.
Yep, time is money and a pre-op is happening no matter what… unless you take chances and go slow
Farting chips ....lol
Let's see how milling the chock to chips ... sure its funny
🤣🤣
Boom
Would love to work for this company 😁
I have a question for everyone out there in the machining community. I need to cut an M20 X 4 ID acme thread about 1.5 inches deep in 416 stainless. Tapping is not an option as we will be building a lot of these parts. Does anyone have any thoughts or ideas?
Probably a thread mill. Some replicable insert will have some specific grades for those
i'll take one. Where do i put my $5 deposit
You can probably use those for filler in refactory blocks
1:30: a high feed tool would be sooo much more efficient.
Yeah, but these chips are cooler LOL
Load meter!
Anyone else curious how much the temperature rose inside during that last run?
Alot lol. Our film guys were sweating just getting the cameras out of the machine
@@barrysetzer and people pay money to sweat like that. 😅
couldn't you just run the 1045 dry anyway?
Wait, only 228 rpm? Where's my 90,000rpm? 😆
Boom! 🇧🇷🇺🇲👊🏼
Looks awkward to load machines with a forklift. Is your overhead crane waiting for repairs?
While a large crane is very handy, you don't really need it once you've set up the robot cell.
how to program this in mastercam?
I used a multiaxis flow toolpath, with the cylinder i was machining the surface for tool axis control.
better get your chip flunkie to change out thaty barrel and clean up that floor
How much does that machine cost? $700k ?
What we see is a REAL SOLID MACHINE… What is HAAS ???
First one
how is climb milling a good thing, I swear it was a bad option
Climb milling is done 99.9% of the time these days… especially on high level machines. One simply reason is that all chips are behind the cutter instead of blasting in front, where the cutter would be running them over and breaking.
There are times to conventional mill but ya… Climb Milling is King.
there were this bruh on youtube who done monsterer cut tho
We are just getting started hahaha
Is it possible that you can do things with this machine that are not safe to the safety enclosure and can break it and injure someone? 😆
Hebat