You're correct, we can never differentiate the sound your project produces, well that smile when you hear the sound is enough to convince your audiences🥰🥰🥰
Great project. I would point how ever, when you showed working you lathe, the cutter was extended way further out then needed. The rule of thumb is to always provide the most support and stiffness to the cutter as is possible for the operation at hand.
Could you please credit tech ingredients? I believe they inovated some of these concepts. You have improved the concept, but they did a lot of testing for the original concept. Correct me if I am wrong.
While they did make a video a few years back, this process has been known for decades. Only recently have people been DIY'ing DML with Foamular panels on TH-cam. Planar Speakers (roughly the same concept) have been around since the 90's.
Did you give any consideration to the heating of the LM317 regulators. I noticed that there was no heat sink and I have observed these devices getting quite hot.
Love it! I’ve been wanting to create some of these panel speakers, but can’t stand the idea of big pink blocks on the wall. Has anyone had luck painting them and keeping good sound quality?
While having speakers like this would be cool, it does pose the question to me of dampening. With the mass from the LEDs and boxes, it would increase the mass and dampen any bass coming from the speakers. The quarter wave is going to be hitting 2/5ths from the speaker, and where it looks like the transducer is positioned you will have wave interference and have a harder time getting over the dampening effect of the added mass on the back. Are you able to compensate with higher volumes or is it negligible due to being in a concrete bunker? Excellent video btw!!!!!!!
I was about to write the same . XPS foam will produce great Mids and HF but the power supply mass will damp out the sound when placed like that. I did many experiments with XPS , Ply and other composites , the best sound came from 3 mm MDF with a timber frame around the outer extremities attached with Double sided tape. The 3 mm material produces crystal clear sound but you still need a subwoofer , i didnt find any exciter that will replace a conventional sub.
Neat project. One issue, unless I missed something you added to the construction, they can’t reduce echos since the foam you are using reflects all the mids snd highs back into the room. You’d need some Owens-Corning or mineral wool to absorb excess mids and highs.
a stereo music sound demo would be nice :D Great project, btw! Also, care to measure the frequency sweep/response of these panel speakers? tia and Have a Great Day!!! More subs!
I love the idea but have concerns about mounting the light control boxes on the panels is going to alter the vibration capability of the panels. An alternate mounting sight might have resulted in better sound quality.
What are your thoughts on those exciters? I just bought a pair not being able to get Dayton drivers and I’m counting on luck until they arrive. Have you compared those to some other attenuators?
I compared only two different exciters, bioth were different in reproduction especially in the lower mids, It boils down to what you like to listen to, the ones used i nthe video were the best IMO for podcasts.
Iǘe done some work, if you want to see a similar concept watch 3d printinge Nerds video about nexa3d, released this weak, they use a similar approach and get crazy speeds
Great video. I love the idea of full room audio. Also, I need to use headlamps a lot in my workshop. I've never thought about building my own lights before, this has inspired me to give it a go.
They work but you made the same mistake many people make when using exciters. If this were a normal speaker box you were building, you would never paint the membrane or mount the electronics to the membrane. But you did just that killing their ability to vibrate freely. You would have gotten a lot better sound quality if you had stained them white, mounted your dimmers on the wall and put the LED strips on the ceiling.
The gauge of the cable conductor is dependent on amperage. The thickness of the insulator is what the voltage rating is based off of. Use proper terms if you are going to go at someone as if you are an expert on the subject, buddy.
@@jong2359 Buddy, non high voltage applications size is dependant only on gauge. You don't see the insulation play a significant role in the overall size of the wire until you get up to a minimum of 600V and it doesn't even begin to get significant until you are in the tens of thousands of volts. So please buddy, the size of the wire and the gauge of the wire are totally interchangeable terms at this scale, ok there buddy? If you are going to @ someone maybe try not to be pedantic about things that aren't pertinent to what is being discussed. Part of being a grownup is know what details are important when. You are the kind of guy who would insist we take in to account the relativistic increase in mass of a car travelling down the highway when calculating fuel costs. While technically correct it is completely insignificant. OK buddy?
You're correct, we can never differentiate the sound your project produces, well that smile when you hear the sound is enough to convince your audiences🥰🥰🥰
Great project. I would point how ever, when you showed working you lathe, the cutter was extended way further out then needed. The rule of thumb is to always provide the most support and stiffness to the cutter as is possible for the operation at hand.
I love how you attached shrink tubing on your third hand clips, I do the same so it doesn't scratch the stuff it holds.
exactly! I need to redo them soon, they get a lot of use!
These will make the perfect Dolby Atmos ceiling speakers.
Could you please credit tech ingredients? I believe they inovated some of these concepts. You have improved the concept, but they did a lot of testing for the original concept. Correct me if I am wrong.
While they did make a video a few years back, this process has been known for decades. Only recently have people been DIY'ing DML with Foamular panels on TH-cam. Planar Speakers (roughly the same concept) have been around since the 90's.
@@bookcadenb4584 and who do you suppose is the reason that people have been diy'ing dml recently on TH-cam with foamular panels?
The stick with an arrow! Perfection!
the first thing I ever designed in tinkercad btw.
damn man, you created a light & sound installation in one simple project, some youtubers would love you!!! :-))))
It's all there and open source, go and share it with them everybody can make them, or should I Kickstart that? Lol
Nice video, Clem! Your most interesting and informative yet in my opinion. Well done!
thanks!
Did you give any consideration to the heating of the LM317 regulators. I noticed that there was no heat sink and I have observed these devices getting quite hot.
the PCB acts as heatsink, the perfboard perfomrs nearly as good as a pcb with thermal vias.
Love it! I’ve been wanting to create some of these panel speakers, but can’t stand the idea of big pink blocks on the wall. Has anyone had luck painting them and keeping good sound quality?
If its an even coating of paint it shouldn't effect it too much but maybe wrap it so it's the same weight
You can cover them with fabric cloth.
I use MOSFETS for variable DC voltage control. I have found that they work very well.
While having speakers like this would be cool, it does pose the question to me of dampening. With the mass from the LEDs and boxes, it would increase the mass and dampen any bass coming from the speakers. The quarter wave is going to be hitting 2/5ths from the speaker, and where it looks like the transducer is positioned you will have wave interference and have a harder time getting over the dampening effect of the added mass on the back. Are you able to compensate with higher volumes or is it negligible due to being in a concrete bunker? Excellent video btw!!!!!!!
I was about to write the same . XPS foam will produce great Mids and HF but the power supply mass will damp out the sound when placed like that.
I did many experiments with XPS , Ply and other composites , the best sound came from 3 mm MDF with a timber frame around the outer extremities attached with Double sided tape.
The 3 mm material produces crystal clear sound but you still need a subwoofer , i didnt find any exciter that will replace a conventional sub.
Excellent Video Clem
Regards
Clem
thank you
This was great very informative, it looks easy enough for someone like me to do and not screw up.
Thank you.
You will for sure get it done! I used them daily since I built them, they serve me so well!
@@MAYERMAKES 👍✌🍻
Neat project. One issue, unless I missed something you added to the construction, they can’t reduce echos since the foam you are using reflects all the mids snd highs back into the room. You’d need some Owens-Corning or mineral wool to absorb excess mids and highs.
I like his face when he listens to it.
a stereo music sound demo would be nice :D Great project, btw! Also, care to measure the frequency sweep/response of these panel speakers? tia and Have a Great Day!!! More subs!
the system is mono on purpose to have the same sound everywhere in the room, I use it mostly for podcasts
I love the idea but have concerns about mounting the light control boxes on the panels is going to alter the vibration capability of the panels. An alternate mounting sight might have resulted in better sound quality.
Your concern is noted, Karen.
What are your thoughts on those exciters? I just bought a pair not being able to get Dayton drivers and I’m counting on luck until they arrive. Have you compared those to some other attenuators?
I compared only two different exciters, bioth were different in reproduction especially in the lower mids, It boils down to what you like to listen to, the ones used i nthe video were the best IMO for podcasts.
When having the volume up, how much does the foam vibrate..is it visible? Is it a lot?
its not visible to me
Just amazing all this channel is too fantastic
thanks, don forget to check out the bonus content on element14.com/presents under each video!
Good video, deserves more views
sharing is caring, just sayin'
very cool, nice work! have you made any progress on your giant msla printer? i'd reeeeeeeeally like to see it work! :-)
Iǘe done some work, if you want to see a similar concept watch 3d printinge Nerds video about nexa3d, released this weak, they use a similar approach and get crazy speeds
This is amazing
thanks
dont they they block light.. ?
Great video. I love the idea of full room audio. Also, I need to use headlamps a lot in my workshop. I've never thought about building my own lights before, this has inspired me to give it a go.
hurray, go for it! and let us know how they turned out on element14.com/presents
Good
Wow
They work but you made the same mistake many people make when using exciters. If this were a normal speaker box you were building, you would never paint the membrane or mount the electronics to the membrane. But you did just that killing their ability to vibrate freely. You would have gotten a lot better sound quality if you had stained them white, mounted your dimmers on the wall and put the LED strips on the ceiling.
sorry but those foam boards will not dampen sound. you need open cell foam, air needs to be able to pass through it.
Buddy, size of a cable is dependant on amperage NOT voltage. 4:45
The gauge of the cable conductor is dependent on amperage. The thickness of the insulator is what the voltage rating is based off of. Use proper terms if you are going to go at someone as if you are an expert on the subject, buddy.
@@jong2359 Buddy, non high voltage applications size is dependant only on gauge. You don't see the insulation play a significant role in the overall size of the wire until you get up to a minimum of 600V and it doesn't even begin to get significant until you are in the tens of thousands of volts. So please buddy, the size of the wire and the gauge of the wire are totally interchangeable terms at this scale, ok there buddy? If you are going to @ someone maybe try not to be pedantic about things that aren't pertinent to what is being discussed. Part of being a grownup is know what details are important when. You are the kind of guy who would insist we take in to account the relativistic increase in mass of a car travelling down the highway when calculating fuel costs. While technically correct it is completely insignificant. OK buddy?
@@Cyril29a Nothing you just said is relevant to what I replied with. You need reading comprehension and basic life skills.
No music played???....Very odd!!!...Plus I have to join a site to see more detail on this project???....Thanks but No Thanks
Dude you don't mention Tech Ingridients anywhere. Not cool.
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