Incredibly Useful Exercises, VOMITS, Part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ค. 2024
- Vomits, by the incomparable Gary Karr, is the flagship exercise in the Double Bass world. It exercises right hand bow management during slurred shifts, ear training, and left hand precision and balance. Part 1 of a 2-part series.
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Timestamp locations:
Lower Octave - 8'36"
Upper Octave - 14'37"
Middle Octave - 19:47"
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For more information on vomits, check out the Wonderful book by Michael Klinghoffer, "Mr. Karr, would you teach me how to drive a double bass?"
www.michaelklinghoffer.com
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Fantastic. Thank you so much. Wonderful teaching.
Thanks flute! You're more than welcome!
Excellent Dennis! The endurance you are achieving with your body is due to the concentration and direct connection of the nerve endings through Proprioception.
Good job Dennis!
I love practicing VOMIT EXERCISE every day!!
It is an excellent exercise to work the slow bow, balance of the instrument, coordination of the back, shoulders and arms.
In addition, it helps you closely understand Proprioseptivity and Kinetic Memory to perceive the vibration of the double bass and bow through the nerve terminals found at the tips of the fingers.
Thanks, Hector. Plus 12 nerd pedagogy points for your use of the word "proprioseptivity" - one of my favorite words and concepts. That's my main focus when I'm playing the long operas - helps with endurance. Hope you're well!
Excellent Dennis! The endurance you are achieving with your body is due to the concentration and direct connection of the nerve endings through Proprioseptivity.
Great video! I agree, players often think this is more about the left hand (on all of the instruments), but yes, it is SO MUCH MORE about bow control and tone production! Gary Karr was a great friend and student of George Bornoff (Boston, MA). The original exercises are from Bornoff's book "Patterns in Position" (Section 5), and are written out in intervals of a 5th, M6, M7, and Octave, starting on Ab-D positions (on the g string), but are played on all four of the strings. Gary Karr started using them in his workshops where they were named "vomit" by some of the students. How could such a great name not stick? haha In the original exercises, we repeat each interval so that there is an immediate opportunity for refinement. This works really well for younger students and in a group setting. We also play the exercise starting with a down and up bow. The rest of Section 5 in the book offers similar exercises for shifting across strings and beginning in thumb positions. I'd love to share this book with you as I think you'd appreciate some additional "incredibly useful exercises" to review. Best wishes!
Wow - thank you for this! I had been looking for the origin of this, and I knew that it was common practice on all string instruments, but I had no idea it had been formalized in that way. Yes, absolutely I'd love to look at the book, and give it due credit! I spoke with Gary at length about this. I originally wrote it out with repeats on each bar, but he said he prefers to just do it one time each so the ear can progress to the next interval quickly. I used to do them twice each interval for refinement. Thank you again, and I look forward to more correspondence. Best, Dennis
@@incrediblyusefulexercises Thank you! Yes, I think the repeats are great for an introduction and the lower "developing" levels but understand the next step. I can share the book via Google Drive and send you a hard copy too. I will include the "Finger Patterns" book that comes before the Patterns in Position as well. I sent you a FB message as well, maybe you can give me your email and physical addresses there. I'd love to Zoom chat sometime if you're available. Best wishes and thanks again! :) Debbie Lyle
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Haha! The algorithm Gods appreciate your offering and bestow many blessings for the day. Thank you
@@incrediblyusefulexercises You're welcome! Actually now that I tried the whole exercise I have a question for you. I have a rather large shouldered bass and I find it next to impossible to play anything above the high Eb just because the shoulder gets in the way. Is there any way to deal with this, or should I just accept the fact that my range has that upper limit?
@@JoeAbraso I don’t think you should give up on it. When I got my English bass, I spent a lot of time finding the position that allowed me to get to the end of the fingerboard. It’s all about getting on top of the bass, so the shoulder gets out of the way of your left arm. I had to lower my bass, so the contact point of the back right shoulder is at my belt line. That way my arm can fall over the shoulder to the end of the fingerboard. I also keep the contact to the left of my belly button, which lets my right arm contact stay on top of the strings. I hope that makes sense. Let me know.
@@incrediblyusefulexercises thanks a lot! I'll give it a go during today's session :) I'll let you know how it goes!
Thanks a lot Dennis!
You're always welcome, Alejandro! Take care
I have found this tutorial beyond helpful , THANK YOU .
The way you explained it is so simple and to the point that even a numbskull like myself now grasps how to do the vomit exercise
Thanks, ldb! I doubt you're a true numbskull, but I appreciate the thought! So glad it helps.
How do you feel about using a Bb drone for this? Thanks!
Perfect. An F drone is also excellent.
Thanks again for this lesson! I do vomits for a good time now, but as always, you make the approach so clear!! Tomorrow I will deal with part 2!
I would really appreciate a video for vibrato technique! Playing my 1 finger vibrato scales every day has helped me a lot already. Maybe you have more of this!?
Thank you, Clemens. I haven't done a video on vibrato yet, other than the 1-finger vibrato. Here's a great one - th-cam.com/video/vmoO5T0BPOs/w-d-xo.html
And here's another one: th-cam.com/video/pUXmddrboW4/w-d-xo.html
Let me know if that helps. Take care, and thanks again.
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What about doing this on the lower strings? I sometimes feel like I’m living on the G string, but that D and even A could benefit from this treatment as well. And I find that Vomit is a somewhat different physical experience on the lower strings.
Absolutely. I went through a phase where I’d do a comprehensive workout of vomits on all 4 strings. It’s good for locating the arm weight balance on each string. Or I’d just do the days workout on a different string for variety. I got a lot out of it. Good luck!
I see you’re using your third finger on your left hand. I’ve been told by several people that it’s wrong to use my ring finger - except in thumb position; but I’ve used my third finger the entire time I’ve played DB. I’ve always felt comfortable using all four fingers of my left hand.
Thanks Keith. In Italy, they use 3rd finger all the time in the low positions. I often use 3rd finger, along with 2nd. It's not "wrong" at all, imho. The 2nd finger is associated with the "German" system, and the 3rd finger is associated with the "Italian" system. I use 3rd finger a LOT - because it's comfortable on my arm, and my 1-3 half steps tend to be more in tune than 1-2. Do what works for you.
I understand the exercise but you are in C not Bb according to my ears.
Yeah, you're right - sorry about that. My solo bass has solo strings on it right now. I play a Bb, but it sounds a C. If you're in orchestra strings, it'll sound a Bb. Thanks, Chris
@@incrediblyusefulexercises phew. Just making sure the algorithms didn’t change the pitch.