EDIT: Just wanted to say as of today, 12/20/2024, the final comic is now out. It's not EVERYTHING people were hoping for, but it's pretty darn close and it's a masterpiece conclusion on its own. For that specific complaint, I'm gonna have to walk it back and say I'm satisfied with the story. It's closure enough. If anyone who worked on that comic ever happens to see this, thank you very, very much. You cooked. ❤ Sorry this video took so long. As you can probably guess, burnout had a little to do with that. And Valve waking up out of nowhere for the first actual time in 7 years. That too. ...all that said, did I cook or did I burn the soup?
Honestly, I don't play that often. Still a fan of TF2, but most of my interaction with it is via fanmade animations on TH-cam. I do enjoy it when I do play, though. And now I might just try playing casual again instead of just public servers!
honestly, i'm extremely (and deeply) sorry for losing your beloved pet that stick with you for a very long time no seriously, losing something that has been with you for years will hurt a lot, i'm not even joking
I've turned to straight up pessimistic to cautiously pessimistic since the ban wave. Hope Valve stays on the treadmill now. Most game developers would kill for TF2's level of playerbase and community. It's so obvious, damn it, Valve.
To be honest is their fault for not playing anything else on their channel. I get you like that game but come on, does your Steam account have only one game?
@@PotentialGrimIt’s also a little the fault of TH-cam and subscribers. YouRube tends to punish people for going outside their niche. Some (but not all) subscribers may complain if their favorite “TF2” TH-camr does something else.
It's crazy to think we're coming up on 7 years since Jungle Inferno. 7 years before Jungle Inferno, TF2 was getting the Mannconomy update, the second scream fortress, and they STILL hadn't finished adding achievement unlocks. TF2 released in 2007, so in 3 years, we'll cross the line of tf2 being dead longer than alive. I mean, it doesn't even make sense. In 7 years, we've seen almost nothing in terms of weapon rebalance (outside of bugfixes and like, that one weird Mannpower update), are we really to think that in 7 years, no one at valve even sat down at the desk and decided "Actually, maybe the Pomson should just be a damage dealing weapon and not garbage with slight utility"? Valve, I'd reckon, has a policy towards TF2 more hostile than "hey, employees, you can work on it if you want, just don't spend too much time". I hold out more hope than I have since 2019 that *sometime* things will get back to working order. At least they finally started adding maps to the yearly pool again. Not that all of them feel properly playtested / QA'd but still. Bit of a ramble but, idk, i care about this game, I want to see some meaningful addition to it, not just a map with a seal or 5 more ICS maps.
i care about ricochet! #savericochet! valve needs to fix ricochet! ricochet for source 2! new ricochet maps! what will happen to richard ricochet? I NEED CLOSURE!!!!!
Y'know what I'd love as a refined sink? Silver versions of australiums They're not very flashy, they use a lot of refined to make, and most importantly they are UNTRADABLE UPON CRAFTING I cannot stress enough how important it would be to make a refined sink like that completely untradable.
You'd need to use thousands of refined metal to make it really worth it considering refined metal is about $3 for 100 of it. Considering refined metal started off at $3 for 3 metal it's kind of hard to make the sink deep enough to make an impact. Furthermore this would just incentivize the production of yet more metal by idle bots because then they could sell it for more money to players wanting to make those silver aussies. Finally I don't think Valve even really wants a metal sink anymore. It's obvious the economy can survive with metal being near worthless and because you can't go from trading metal to trading unusuals anymore it means anyone who wants to get into the trading game has to start off by buying keys instead, which brings in money for Valve.
I like the idea of this essay, as spoken and laid out in the description. A common mantra I heard was "Fix the game or kill it", in the sense that they shouldn't keep earning on it and keep the servers running but without proper upkeep Like you said yourself, to a lot of people it is too late. It is too late to "fix the game", and to reinvigorate the fanbase that has been exhausted trying to hold this game up the past few years. But, I think the most healthy thing is for both of these things to happen. Like when an older person reaches their later years, you let a load off of their shoulders, you give the game some proper updates, not necessarily with content but to make sure that people can play it to their hearts content for as long as they find it enjoyable. And then, when the time comes, the game will fade as all games do, but with a legacy most could only dream of.
@@Samwiz1 That’s not what I mean… but have you heard of Project Moon? Ever heard of the Red Mist of Black Silence? Or Library of Ruina? Will check out Red Mars if I can find it
@@Samwiz1be warned project moon has been referenced soon more will come (hes recommending a game called libray of ruina [great game] however audio books are also fun
Farewell Samwiz1. I was actually in one of your videos for a short point, it was TF2: Eggheads. And I TECHNICALLY wasn't featured on the video, but what I made was even if just for a very very brief moment. It was at 8:35. pyro had just killed you and you were complaining on how he wasn't dead. and to me it surprised me where someone had a picture I had made as their PFP. when I saw that I went absolutely insane and was so happy with myself that what I had made, someone had chose, and had gotten lucky enough to play with the legendary samwiz1. its inspired me to keep going, and even if you want to stop playing tf2 Ill be fine with it because ill be watching still. Thanks.
Since you're going to be moving on from TF2 soon, I think just before you do, you should do a short and sweet final goodbye video. I think that'd be really nice. One other thing, since you are going to be moving on from TF2, could I, perhaps, suggest some fun games for you to try on the channel?
Something i wish we got more of were weapon crates, and more strange variants for weapons that don’t have one, or strangifiers for collaboration weapons like short circuit One day, i hope we could get stranges for the jumper weapons that track either air time or distance rocket jumping/sticky jumping. And i know this can be done because we have ACHIEVEMENTS that track distance traveled
Sorry i mistook collab with promotional, its specifically a community-made promotional weapon Valve worked around with strange variants by making the strangifier tool, to add strange counters to promotional items. But for whatever reason the short circuit never got one, despite being released alongside the widowmaker, which also a was community made promo weapon *and* got a strangifier for it
The final comic's script is done. The writers got messaged by a group that wanted to make an unofficial end to it. The writers told them in a post that they actually had finished the script by working on it on and off over the years and all that has to be done is for the comic art to be drawn. We just have to wait a little longer to finally get the ending to it.
Despite the events from the past few years, TF2's legacy will still be a positive one. We "nitpick" some of TF2's issues because of how good the rest of the game is. It's unique, revolutionary, insane, comedic, and FUN!!! You can see how the market has changed due to the influence of TF2 and the games directly inspired by it. Being in the TF2 community as long as I was allowed me to see TH-camrs rise, inspire, and sometimes leave. YOU ARE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THIS! I saw your tf2 Jaws video in early 2020 and joined your discord server soon after. I participated in multiple community events, made friends, and left a legacy that affects the servers today (look at the strategy gamer category). I'm no longer on the server as I've attempted to focus on IRL issues, but I still interact with the friends I made on that server very often. Heck, I've been doing EU4 modding for an event Py is hosting. Something important that we can all take away from tf2 is that nothing great lasts forever. I've had my time and moved on to other games (for better and for worse). Thank you for entertaining us for the past 4 years, and good luck in your future endeavors.
I'd say that's pretty apt. A sentiment I ran into a lot prior to the recent banwave was "we don't need content updates just fix the game and we'll be fine", but personally I think most of this was just cope. As evidence for this, most of the responses to it that I've seen have all had a "this is the bare minimum we shouldn't just be satisfied now" message. I think the second one not only reflects the community's true feelings, I think it reflects reality better as well. We were selling ourselves short to accept a future where valve continues to make profits off a game with such little effort put in from their end. The way I see it, even without the bot crisis Valve's inaction would still be slowly killing the game. I think we just needed the bogeyman out of the picture for a moment in order to truly appreciate the magnitude of Valve's other failings in regards to the game. The consequences of neglect, if mentioned at all, were always overshadowed by the bot spam. Now that we can actually foresee a future where the bots can never cause such trouble again, it is much easier to survey the landscape and spot the other rotting flesh wounds Valve has left untouched because they're not as visible.
One thing I never understood is the pip-boy. It's a cosmetic thst changes the pda hud... so why isn't it in the pda slot? It takes up a cosmetic slot that really should be open. It does the job a reskin usually does and there are already items that replace a default cosmetic as a weapon. The pip boy does the same as the cozy camper, just without any stats.
It's like watching a dog live it's life, at first u don't know what to do, then memories start appearing, but when it grows old and you know what's gonna happen. That's the feeling we have.
14:42 the spooky head bouncers would be one of my favorite cosmetics if it was a misc, i wanted so much to use it with the reel fly hat in pyro to have those silly eyes...
Samwiz started and finished college (and maybe a couple years of high school as well) in the time it took Valve to do basic security updates. Man. I hope that severing the basically toxic relationship you have with tf2 will help with making content that's enjoyable for us AND you, Sam. Thank you for your service to the game, you magnificent bastard. You did more than could be expected of anyone.
Life moves on, with or without the some of it's parts. We appriciate the real-life update at the end, congrats on graduating, Sam. Just gotta look straight forward.
6:18 i think there is a point where complaining goes from genuine concern to just being a dick about it, Its eric smith and a contractor who works on the game, and that's it, and eric smith to my knowledge only approves of the community stuff, it took 1 guy 2 years to fix a game as held together by spaghetti like tf2 on their own, this isn't a large or even small dev team doing nothing, its 2 guys doing about as much as they can, the contractor to my knowledge wasn't even hired for tf2 but asked to do it, the bots were not 1 lone issue, they were the issue, people weren't dpomg ot for a fresh update to the game, Savetf2 and fixtf2's express purposes were to get rid of bots and show valve people love this game, this isn't "valve" doing this, this is most literally 1 guy who decided to work on tf2, when you treat individuals as corporations your doing really nothing but discrediting the one guy, also the 4chan scout cosplayer i find really funny cause the alternative is "this guy has been standing there for over a hour" and they just think they're weird, which rather than a conspiracy that they were told to avoid them, it kinda makes more sense the single guy outside the building who apparently only had a loosely related sign and seemingly wasn't saying anything, is probably going to be weird, and they're avoiding eye contact to not get their attention lmao
1. Allow FTP players to use voice commands/chat 2. Bring back Chemistry sets and Halloween effects for weapons. 3. Fix the lag-spikes that came with the 64-bit update (and fix the lag with Virginia servers too). 4. New Killstreak sheens and Effects, New Aussie weapons, new Festive weapons.
This game's state is like spamming E for Medic knowing damn well we don't have one. Maybe we may get a Medic, but until then, the 10k hour plus Soldiers thinking a Medic will pocket them because they have an unusual calls will ring out into the empty void that is the Valve office... and our hearts.
Despite continuing to play throughout 90% of the bot hosting era, only finally giving up recently, anything short term valve does to "fix" TF2 is too late for me. I've spent almost my entire playtime on VSH community servers, but when those servers fully died earlier this year, I moved on from TF2.
TF2 is how you do casual team shooters right, the freedom Overwatch lacks, the easy going that valerent lacks, but the option to go to those styles is there, there is a lot to do and I can’t help but love it, but some much come and go as they need so new life can take root in themself
Sam, it’s unfortunate to see you leave the community, your time and effort has been much appreciated and we are honoured that you’ve spent as much time with us as you have, organising as many community events as you did despite being busy with college. Your content and style of humour was immaculate, and you managed to breathe so much life into a quite frankly decaying community, your work has brought joy to so many, and although we’re sad to see you go, we’ll support you on your future endeavours. Congrats on graduating college, and on behalf of the whole TF2 Community… Thank you for everything, and we can’t wait to see what you do in the future!
i loved this game, i loved playing it with friends, i loved playing it with the randos taht were on the server, i loved hearing people talk about their day to day, do dumb jokes or just chat on the voicechat, i loved that this game ment a lot to me when i was a kid, now is all nostalgia and cant be arsed to even try to play it, i rather go play something else where i can have friends than this... it was a good run, and i am happy i was there. good luck sam, your videos were really good.
I appreciate this video. It put into words what I've been feeling for so long. For many years, I was the newbie at tf2 looking up at my veteran friends, but since that decade has past when I first installed the game, life has happened. I am now the person among all of my friend groups that has been playing tf2 the longest and I have seen so much. Admittedly not the most as many others, but I am just tired too. I miss the peak that I saw, and I remember hearing people complain about the game even back then. If only we all knew what'd happen. The only reason I open the game now is to play with my friends who are the newbs, teach them the ropes, help them learn, and hope they get to experience what I can't anymore. It's so melancholic. Playing with them sometimes lets me re experience the wonder and fun I had years ago, but it's just not the same and I'm just tired... I miss my childhood
I feel like Valve got major burnout maintaining the spaghetti code mess that is TF2, and I guess is scared of hiring new talent to attempt it? Are they afraid more people getting access to TF2 will result in more leaks?
Turbulence got me interested in animation and sfm opened the door to 3d animation for me. I miss those days of just messing around and making little skits, but then sfm started blue screening my computer. Blender just isn’t the same, it’s not as easy to just import and go. I lost a lot of passion for 3d animation because of that.
It sucks that I only started playing TF2 after Jungle Inferno. I have only experienced this purgatory state that the game is currently in. The concept of new weapons or balance changes sounds revolutionary to me.
Also about the Tutorials: The spy one doesn't work since like 7 years or sth,which also means you can't do the ones that come after it,since to unlock them you have to do spies first,for reasons?
Easily fixable dated features: 1. They do have a better server browser too, the ''simplified list" option. If only it was the default setting. 2. All that valve needs to do for the create server button is to enable steam datagram relay in-game. It is possible to do so with -enablefakeip launch option but that requires you to go out your way to do so.
I, myself, did not know TF2 existed until half a year until I found you, and when I did, I fell in love with the community. Seeing one of my favorite creators hang up his hat, or in this case, Fez, told me that this game, despite having never played it myself tells me that TF2 is a gem that should be remembered. Thanks Sam for your help in me finding a good community to enjoy.
I have played TF2 for a long ass time, the skin of my minecraft account is inspired by TF2 characters like Saxton Hale. Valves neglect for what in all rational thinking is an incredibly popular game with a strong community and limitless potential makes me angry. However I also understand Valve's position, as a Minecraft TH-camr who makes complex redstone builds I often publish designs on my channel that are incredibly cool and popular, but they are too complex for the average minecraft player to understand. I get swamped daily with messages from people asking me how to build things, how to get my things to work, etc, and honestly it is exhausting. The transaction I have with my audience feels like it should be pretty straight forward, I make the thing, explain it in a video and try to teach some concepts in science, engineering and mathematics then apply that knowledge to minecraft redstone. Then I offer the thing I made as a free download for people to explore and enjoy. However the reality is that my viewers are always left wanting more, they want to build the thing, use the thing, all without investing the effort to understand how it works so inevitably they are left frustrated and disatisified when the thing doesn't work and they have no idea why and when they contact me to ask for help I am unwilling to guide hundreds of people through troubleshooting a thing they fundamentally don't understand. If my position is anything like Valve's, having created a thing that is incredibly popular with a massive community of people rallying behind. I can honestly understand them not wanting to engage with the community and fix the product. If making games is the passion of a developer then TF2 is just an old project for which they no longer feel passionate about, and so who are we to force them to care about it?
I’m all seriousness this was a spectacular video man and while dour in subject it still was an enjoyable viewing experience. I wish only the best for ya moving forward and I should probably stop procrastinating my finals right about now.
Sam, you have been one of my biggest inspirations in the world of content creation for the better part of the last 5 years. So many times before then, I looked at an idea and waved it aside for one reason or another and it wasnt until I found your channel where I finally let the pressure i felt subside. Your attitude towards streaming and video creation has always felt so low key and free of pressure. The way you would just sit down with a dumb gimmick for 1 stream and say "yep thats food enough for a video" for no other reason than the fact that was fun is insanely inspirational to me. And no where is this demonstrated better than your variety content. To this day, your Bad Piggies videos are some of my favorite on the channel, not because they are particularly well made videos, but because you found a way to make a shitty mobile game I did not remotely care about insanely fun to watch. Just know that wherever you go next, i will be sure to follow
14:35 did samwiz really call the fiestibrero a bad hat while not circling the cozy catchers, the elf cosmetics, brain cane, and jolly jester? those are EGREGIOUS
I haven't touched this game in 3 years. My reaction to the ban wave was "neat" and I went to do other things. I don't like saying it but I just don't care about tf2 anymore Edit: if you're looking for a new game to get addicted to, look at Darktide. It's good
That's pretty much the gist of what I'm saying here. Sucks to agree with someone on a matter like this, but I'm cynically glad I'm not alone in that feeling. :/
Literally the same happnede to me. I just remembered this game when I was doing some clean-up on my pc and gave it a go since I hadn't played since early 2022. Even playing a few matches bot-free I did not like this game anymore, but I was glad some people did.
Sam I enjoy your content so much and I am so happy for you that you decided to move in a forward direction for your channels sake cannot wait to see what you do and I hope if you come back to TF2 you do it for the sake of enjoyment only :)
Tf2 will NEVER die. Current PLAYER base consistently goes on a burn out for a month or a year (depending on a sevirity) and eventually come back, and while they were gone, someone else returned from burn out and replaced the one who left. Rinse and repeat.
TF2 is, without joke, the only game that I can go into any day and find a bunch of funny guys with whom I'll have a great time Sometimes it's relaxed, silly games where half the players are dancing, and sometimes it's intense matches with a well-oiled team mechanism Whenever I log in, I don’t wait longer than a minute and immediately jump into the game and surprisingly rarely see the same faces in the lobby
I just noticed that the music in the intro is from the old RTS game ‘Rise of Nations’. I’ve been playing it all my life, so as soon as I heard it, my PTSD triggered.
Disagree with the thesis entirely, i could definitely be content for the rest of tf2's lifespan with no major updates, id much rather have a phenomenal game that is still fun thousands of hours later than a bad game with constant updates that are NECESSARY to even entertain the idea of still playing. I like this gameplay a lot and its that simple
I have never played tf2 but I love your videos and I could understand the burnout, I watch a lot of content creators for tf2 but due to the stigma of the game, I don't feel like it is worth my time to get into just the game die out by the time I get decent at it.
Sadly, i gotta admit that this game isn't saveable. This ban wave did something but didn't do half of what's needed. We've been so abandoned we settle for the barest ass of a minimum
I don't live in the games industry bubble, I live in the I want to play whatever I want to play bubble. To me this isn't a live service game that needs constant updates. I just wanna play a good game that I like. I didn't grow up in the live service constant additions then game gets shut down age and I haven't accepted it as normal. Chess doesn't need updates to be a game I want to play when I feel like it and neither does TF2, simple as that
Haven't watched the video but I did read the tldr. I agree but for the first time in a while, I can be happy. At this point I can sit and say we had a good run. This isn't laying down and completely accepting it, naturally I want more for this game, but I feel like I can at least let this game go with a smile now. I'm more at peace with it.
I will personally only give up on the fixtf2 movement when free to play's can speak. New players not being able to speak just alienate new players and prevent them from getting into this game.
I've been with you since the silly british snipers sitting in the sewers. Since then I've graduated highschool, moved on to becoming a full adult, had 3 jobs, and am now old enough to drink. I can say it was one hell of a ride with you Sam. Maybe if you get back into the swing of things I can fall back in love with your content. That or you can always go back to being a bad piggies youtuber.
I've been in much the same boat, and that last section spoke to me very much. I used to be a (small) TF2ber, and while I did have fun- I got burned out on the game always feeling the same. I'm a Heavy main, and I felt like I was talking about all the same things every other Heavy main TH-camr did, meanwhile nothing changed in the game. I wanted to do other things, but the algorithm and viewership just wasn't there. I was putting days of editing into content I didn't have a heart for. I started streaming for a bit, and it was fun- there was so much more engagement on that side. But it wasn't creative. It wasn't something I could put my heart into, not in the same way. I've always wanted to come back. Tried a few times. But I've never felt that real push to do so, especially with TF2. And despite all that, I still love the game. I can't bring myself to sell my old Heavy set- despite the fact that I've been having it rough for a while and could really use the money. I can't sell the memories. I love the game, and yet I can't bring myself to play it, either. I love the content I used to make, yet can't find the passion I used to have that pushed me to it.
I know this feeling all too well. I joined TF2 in 2012, got into the mod scene and TF2 custom server admin scene shortly after. I spent 7 or so years as a community admin for a server before dipping out due to its corruption. Tried to get into making my own community servers, got three up, was betrayed by a person pretending to be a brother to me, slandered, defamed, and derided by people he gaslit into believing him. Shithead even tried attacking my marriage. Hopped from server to server at that point while picking up the pieces after the asshole backdoored my servers, stole my mods/mappers and broke my servers before running off with all of it to claim as his own creation elsewhere. Tried getting into voice acting as a way to fill the gap after all that, only to then be harassed by one of the cheaters caught in that recent vac wave who recorded me drunk and used it out of context to make me look like an asshole. This game for around 7 years or so gave me smiles, back from 2012-2019. After that, it went downhill, and FAST. Toxicity, betrayal, lies, slander and even more toxicity. This game used to bring me joy, to the point I put thousands into it, I even ended up running the official golden pan group on steam. But despite having an item like that, despite all of it, the current state of the game, compounded with all the hell I have been though has made this game a SLOG to want to play. Even now if I tell my story these stalking little shitholes will harass me, they did it a few months ago. So either I crawl under a rock, or quit entirely. This is the state of the game that I loved. That says nothing to the myriad of cheaters, and assholes in lobbies nowadays that has left me tired, traumatized, cynical and bitter. Like a family member watching their patriarch fall into Alzheimer's and turn from a once caring person into a toxicity spewing cesspit that sees family as targets. This ban wave is nice, but you are right, for us old heads, it is too little, too late. They should have gotten rid of them years ago, they should have taken reports seriously so voices like mine would not have been lost in the crashing waves of negligence of this company. I love TF2, I always have loved TF2, but now, I have to struggle to even play a 2fort lobby with friends before some toxic dickhead makes me wonder why I still play this game. I just want to play with my friends and do acting. I once wanted to bring new gamemodes to TF2 and bring back that old energy, but at this point I dont feel it's even worth it.
As much as I don't watch your videos anymore, I can't thank you enough, your community is the best place I've ever found and I wouldn't know what to do without it. (I did watch this video fully though)
I started playing tf2 in 2023, and I've convinced my friends and girlfriend to pick it up too this year, you can take solace in knowing it is indeed safe for a next generation of players :)
Why would you pick up this game where the devs intentionally ignore it? You're picking up a corpse and trying to have fun with it and ignore that it's dead. For the longest time you could not even enjoy it casually as bots completely wrecked the game for years on end. Just go play something that actually cares about you. Go play co-op elden ring, go play co-op deep rock galactic.
@@MrDrManPerson my current laptop cant handle much, and my girlfriend and I love the charm that the characters have, but then again I play mostly old games, I'm still playing battlefield 2 from 2005 after all
@matstick199 Your laptop can handle Deep Rock Galactic of it can handle TF2. DRG is smaller and less intense. I play a lot of old games, too, using an emulator. Also huge fan of BF2. I love TF2, I really do but I can't respect something that does not respect me. Since you play older games like me I'm sure you understand the fatigue of modern gaming. TF2 has had that symptom for years and I see no reason to reward that behavior. Imagine falling in love with it again only to realize it has never changed like a bad ex ready to abuse your time once more. Valve is working on a hero shooter and as soon as that's out, you can expect TF2 to get ignored even harder.
@@MrDrManPerson i mean I don't really miss much new stuff in tf2, guess its because i didn't play it during its hayday due to being a console scrub, but tbh, tf2 is not the worst game I've ever played, I used to play a lot of war thunder and that is as bad as it gets for me, tf2 is fine compared to that shit show,
I'll be sticking with you and your channel. I watch videos where people are happy with what they make or play, and you and your friends are almost always having a good time. So please do play what you want to play, or make what you want to make, and have fun while doing it!
congrats on graduating as on everything else, I agree with your mentioned issues and a lot has to be fixed. I personally play a lot sometimes and then not for months. The banning of the bots was a reason for me to get back into it and I've been enjoying it outside of SOME matchmaking issues. I hope valve really goes back to fix (some of) your mentioned issues and making the game better in general
This is a great summary of the problem this game has faced for years now I remember even before bots started taking over the problem was that the game just didn't get enough updates but after the bots and cheaters showed up that sentiment changed to most players being happy with whatever scraps of content valve threw at the game until now. I love this game and I really do wanna see it grow strong again and flourish like I know it can, I just don't think I can trust valve to do it especially with how they have launched and maintained CS2 as of late. It's genuinely depressing to watch how far valve has fallen from "God like game company" to "The money hungry owners of steam" just kinda hurts, but in the end we cant force them to do anything unless we stop supporting these practices and even then that doesn't guarantee anything sadly.
Even if I hadn't played as long as you did, Its completely understandable where you coming from It's hard to find fun in something if you've been doing the same dance for over a decade. Like man I've been getting into Payday 2 recently and it's been fun, tho I'm not planning on abandoning TF2. Craft the path ya want and enjoy the things that'll be given to you along the way
nop , TF2 SHALL LIVE FOREVER , TF2 IS INFINITELY REPLAYABLE WITH TONS OF FUN AND EXCITEMENT , We NEVER get bored from it , new games are garbage , some gamers play regularly , some gamers play once every week or once in 10 to 15 days !!! few of them leave it for some time but then come back to it !! it will NEVER get boring !! theres toooo much to do in casual , so many techniques to master , so many game play modes and weapons , new scenes and new stuff happens , maps and gameplay feel fresh and new even if you have played the same map 100s of times ! and tons of new modes in community servers too !
Nothing can last forever. All games at the end of the day will get old. There will be no more unique content to make and the game will become boring. But I think for devs and a game its important to provide a place you can return to, so even after a couple of years it will be as playable as in the past. Its important to make game stable and self-sustainable for this.
I'm hoping that Valve will fully commit to this TF2 movement and bring in a decently big update for this summer update, though I do know it's not impossible for them to just leave it at bot bans and bug fixes, I dearly do hope and wait to see what else they may do now that they've shown public efforts in fighting and crushing the bot crisis in this swift move after possibly a long planning and setup to it if what I've heard about them working behind the scenes over the 2 years is true, also congratulations on graduating!
I only started playing TF2 around 2019, hell this game is older than me by a couple months, I never really experienced "normal" or "peak" TF2. For me, nothing is that stagnant for me, although I feel like I missed out on most of the game and I've not put that much hours into the game or been trying to "get gud" so there's a slight feeling of that. But the whole reason I couldn't do such things is because I've never played without bots being a non issue, I mean yeah, we've gotten the odd week break of no bots, but it's always been there. There is a slight light at the end of the tunnel though, if bots stay out of casual from now on (big IF right there), I might actually be able to put in the hours and get to experience mastering rocket jumping, getting good at sniper, playing spy. This however hinges on if long time TF2 fans keep playing casual, I feel like many people were able to get good as everyone else was also learning the game at the time they hopped on, but now I have to compete with either bots or people with almost 8K hours in order to just play, not even trying to get good. I feel like even if the older generations forget about this game there is still posibilities for this game to flourish, kind of like that meme you inserted at 1:58. I don't think the game will survive within just an older generation, and that's what happens with older games but we're only just now seeing the effects of that as games have only gotten this old now, due to gaming not being that old in the first place. The way I see it, even if the older generations leave TF2, it will still flourish. It will be more like a reset or inheritance to younger generations, where the community gets to relearn the game, but in a quicker fashion. Yes, there will be people who come back or never leave due to how big an impact this game had on them, but it feels like this is just a factory reset, just without updates unless Valve updates the game (which even if we look in a hopeful manner the up most we might get is an anti-cheat).
Dying embers of a once bright star. That is what I would describe TF2 as. This game has provided the utmost level of joy to all those who were part of it across the years, proving a sense of community, comfort, and fun not many games are able to provide. In the end, however, all things must come to and end. This game had a good run, and its community an even better one. This community is one of the things that first comes to mind when I think of the word determination, as its persistence even in the most dire and abyssal of situations is something to be admired… Though, determination can only persist for so long. A fire is not capable of burning for eternity, especially in a harsh winter. As this game slowly starts fading due to neglect, unfortunately so will its community. It is a true grievance, that old players will no longer have something to look forward to and a reason to keep playing, and that new players will never have the feeling of an exciting new update to play around with, as well no reason to even play the game in the first place. Even if this chapter of our lives may come to an end, by all means we must still smile that it happened. We must still smile that we got to experience all those wonderful things, from the class vs class events, to scream fortress and smissmas, and all those updates which made us smile back then. Whether early or late to the party, it is still nice that we got to feel alive in it, even if for a bit. To grieve deeply is to have loved fully. To the community of the game, stand proud. Know you have endured more than what can be described by words. To the old players, smile fondly for the memories you had made. It is better you experience nostalgia for the past than to not have experienced a past at all. We appreciate you being there, from the very start of the party. To the newer players such as I, continue to enjoy what remains of this game before it fades. You may have not experienced the fond memories of old, yet that does not mean you cant make new ones. You may have arrived late to the party, but by all means you have all added much life to it. I know not what may possibly lie next for this game, but if it shall fade then know this: I enjoyed my stay. I enjoyed the things I was able to experience even if it wasn’t any major update or event. I enjoyed being a part of this community, and even if it shall give out one day I will remember this community till I draw my last breath. In essence, thank you all for being a part of the long journey of TF2. Take the fond memories of this game and its community, and carry it wherever you may go. Even if a star is fading, be happy for the light it provided you. This is simply something I wrote to ramble a bit, and to let myself process everything in retrospect. My apologies if it was a long read.
![[TF2] Engi: Become Sentry](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ex2X8U-yuUE/mqdefault.jpg)
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![[TF2] Crack Mall](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/5Mu5K_yqEEQ/mqdefault.jpg)
EDIT: Just wanted to say as of today, 12/20/2024, the final comic is now out. It's not EVERYTHING people were hoping for, but it's pretty darn close and it's a masterpiece conclusion on its own. For that specific complaint, I'm gonna have to walk it back and say I'm satisfied with the story. It's closure enough. If anyone who worked on that comic ever happens to see this, thank you very, very much. You cooked. ❤
Sorry this video took so long. As you can probably guess, burnout had a little to do with that. And Valve waking up out of nowhere for the first actual time in 7 years. That too.
...all that said, did I cook or did I burn the soup?
how hard do you poop
idk you posted the video 2 minutes agi
Coming back stronger is all that matters! 💪
Imagine you don’t come into work one day and you tell your boss “sorry man I’m burnt out”
Honestly, I don't play that often. Still a fan of TF2, but most of my interaction with it is via fanmade animations on TH-cam. I do enjoy it when I do play, though. And now I might just try playing casual again instead of just public servers!
The ghosts of Redmond and Blutarch put aside their differences to strangle the ghosts in the machine.
Amen. 😇
morreu de disgosto
you may be red, you may be blu, but we both agree that greymann was the worst
@@pyrotf2198 that's an agreement I never cease to be amazed.
Yes!
“Even though you were late to the party, you were still the life of it.”
😭😭😭😭😭
That goes fucking hard
-Mercenary badge description.
It's my favorite cosmetic because of that line
As a f2p, mercenary badge description hits real hard.
Since last time Valve released updated to this game. My snail managed to die from old age. I am not even joking
What was your snails name?
@@jamessimon2002 Dusya
How long do snails live?
@@jasonanthonywilper Up to 20 years if kept as a pet
honestly, i'm extremely (and deeply) sorry for losing your beloved pet that stick with you for a very long time
no seriously, losing something that has been with you for years will hurt a lot, i'm not even joking
Credit where credit is due, Valve finally counted past the number 3 with the TF2 comics💀
wait....the comic is BACK?!
Left 4 Dead
Doesn't count. They skipped 3@@happymark1668
@@xavierdaniel4608 Left 3 Dead
Goddamnit i was excited
I've turned to straight up pessimistic to cautiously pessimistic since the ban wave. Hope Valve stays on the treadmill now.
Most game developers would kill for TF2's level of playerbase and community. It's so obvious, damn it, Valve.
That’s what I’m sayin. Any other company in Valve’s shoes would have a gold mine. Why Valve doesn’t treat it as such confuses me to no end.
It is probably because the outdated source engine and everything else is a bit too scary for little ol valve :/
Its sad that Valve did that because of their new shitty game and not because of the outcry of literal hundreds of thousands
@@plussyplatinum that’s the universe we live in I guess
@@plussyplatinum Deadlock is kinda amazing, don't hate on it just because of TF2. Judge it on it's own merits.
Medic can fix the heart
save us robin atkin downes
Or you could say he could replace it baboon heart
Nien *runs off laughing*
Don’t worry, hearts grow back
@@simpIeidiot no ze dont
I watched a video earlier on how TF2 content creators get caught in a content bubble where their channel depends on TF2 content.
pop
To be honest is their fault for not playing anything else on their channel. I get you like that game but come on, does your Steam account have only one game?
@@PotentialGrimIt’s also a little the fault of TH-cam and subscribers. YouRube tends to punish people for going outside their niche. Some (but not all) subscribers may complain if their favorite “TF2” TH-camr does something else.
Those subs don't matter in the grand scheme. If the new stuff you put out is good, the growth of your audience will supplement.
It's crazy to think we're coming up on 7 years since Jungle Inferno. 7 years before Jungle Inferno, TF2 was getting the Mannconomy update, the second scream fortress, and they STILL hadn't finished adding achievement unlocks. TF2 released in 2007, so in 3 years, we'll cross the line of tf2 being dead longer than alive. I mean, it doesn't even make sense. In 7 years, we've seen almost nothing in terms of weapon rebalance (outside of bugfixes and like, that one weird Mannpower update), are we really to think that in 7 years, no one at valve even sat down at the desk and decided "Actually, maybe the Pomson should just be a damage dealing weapon and not garbage with slight utility"? Valve, I'd reckon, has a policy towards TF2 more hostile than "hey, employees, you can work on it if you want, just don't spend too much time". I hold out more hope than I have since 2019 that *sometime* things will get back to working order. At least they finally started adding maps to the yearly pool again. Not that all of them feel properly playtested / QA'd but still. Bit of a ramble but, idk, i care about this game, I want to see some meaningful addition to it, not just a map with a seal or 5 more ICS maps.
i care about ricochet! #savericochet! valve needs to fix ricochet! ricochet for source 2! new ricochet maps! what will happen to richard ricochet? I NEED CLOSURE!!!!!
@@dangdudedan8756 Ricochet isn't actively pushing microtransactions on a yearly basis. :)
I just hope it's not a 3rd year of suffering scream fortress with bots.
I don't think they can count to 3 so hopefully not
@@mrjuicejunior half life 2 part 2 💀
Y'know what I'd love as a refined sink?
Silver versions of australiums
They're not very flashy, they use a lot of refined to make, and most importantly they are UNTRADABLE UPON CRAFTING
I cannot stress enough how important it would be to make a refined sink like that completely untradable.
You'd need to use thousands of refined metal to make it really worth it considering refined metal is about $3 for 100 of it. Considering refined metal started off at $3 for 3 metal it's kind of hard to make the sink deep enough to make an impact. Furthermore this would just incentivize the production of yet more metal by idle bots because then they could sell it for more money to players wanting to make those silver aussies.
Finally I don't think Valve even really wants a metal sink anymore. It's obvious the economy can survive with metal being near worthless and because you can't go from trading metal to trading unusuals anymore it means anyone who wants to get into the trading game has to start off by buying keys instead, which brings in money for Valve.
I like the idea of this essay, as spoken and laid out in the description.
A common mantra I heard was "Fix the game or kill it", in the sense that they shouldn't keep earning on it and keep the servers running but without proper upkeep
Like you said yourself, to a lot of people it is too late. It is too late to "fix the game", and to reinvigorate the fanbase that has been exhausted trying to hold this game up the past few years. But, I think the most healthy thing is for both of these things to happen. Like when an older person reaches their later years, you let a load off of their shoulders, you give the game some proper updates, not necessarily with content but to make sure that people can play it to their hearts content for as long as they find it enjoyable. And then, when the time comes, the game will fade as all games do, but with a legacy most could only dream of.
Exactly!
Hey if you need something new, take this invitation to the library. May for you find your book at that place
I’ve been listening to a lot of a audiobooks, for what that’s worth. Would recommend Red Mars if you get the chance. 👍
@@Samwiz1 That’s not what I mean… but have you heard of Project Moon? Ever heard of the Red Mist of Black Silence? Or Library of Ruina?
Will check out Red Mars if I can find it
@@Samwiz1be warned project moon has been referenced soon more will come (hes recommending a game called libray of ruina [great game] however audio books are also fun
Project moon mentioned
If such, then I recommend the Floor of Natural Sciences.
[This is an elaborate LoR reference right?]
Reminder to ping Sam in the discord server on exactly March 6th, 2025 within an hour of 2:28pm EST about Helldivers
This is a fucking deathwish and you know it Fourshadowing
got it
For Democracy!
Understood Four, deploying the (Annoy Sam)kg bomb.
Good soldiers follow orders
All these years was Gaben building up Ubercharge.
Bro what are you doing here you gotta go get v1
@@sturddlefish443 No
Farewell Samwiz1. I was actually in one of your videos for a short point, it was TF2: Eggheads. And I TECHNICALLY wasn't featured on the video, but what I made was even if just for a very very brief moment.
It was at 8:35. pyro had just killed you and you were complaining on how he wasn't dead. and to me it surprised me where someone had a picture I had made as their PFP. when I saw that I went absolutely insane and was so happy with myself that what I had made, someone had chose, and had gotten lucky enough to play with the legendary samwiz1. its inspired me to keep going, and even if you want to stop playing tf2 Ill be fine with it because ill be watching still.
Thanks.
🥨
Man's is making variety it's not like he's gone
Tf u mean farewell? Bros still here
@@SquadStar some of us dont really want to watch some other games its quite literally the TF bubble when you leave the residue stays while you move on
the glazing is crazy
I loved asteroid
Me too love asteroids. GreT videogame
BASED
*tf2’s heart bursts* what was noise?
*Community-* Ze sound of progress my friend
Tf2 Wont die of Broken heart, Tf2 has a Baboon heart
Tf2 will die of an exploded baboon heart with fried circuits stuffed into its arteries after a failed experiment to turn it bulletproof
Baboons get heartbroken too
*mega baboon heart
We also have spies' head as a backup 😊
@@fjtcreotec6351no they don’t we’re your source? Mine is source2
Nuff said let's hope valve doesn't remove it and save it for later
Since you're going to be moving on from TF2 soon, I think just before you do, you should do a short and sweet final goodbye video. I think that'd be really nice.
One other thing, since you are going to be moving on from TF2, could I, perhaps, suggest some fun games for you to try on the channel?
Only a couple days later it was leaked and confirmed that the 7th TF2 comic is being made. I don't know if it's enough for samwiz1, but I'm intrigued.
“Good news! We’re going to live forever”
"swapping out my favorite strategy games for new ones"
mein fuherer...
does this mean IronHarvest is back
Looks like Warhammer is back on the menu boys!!!
@@s4turn943 WAAAAAAAHHHH!!
Glory to Polania
Something i wish we got more of were weapon crates, and more strange variants for weapons that don’t have one, or strangifiers for collaboration weapons like short circuit
One day, i hope we could get stranges for the jumper weapons that track either air time or distance rocket jumping/sticky jumping. And i know this can be done because we have ACHIEVEMENTS that track distance traveled
Wait the Short circuit was a collab weapon?
Sorry i mistook collab with promotional, its specifically a community-made promotional weapon
Valve worked around with strange variants by making the strangifier tool, to add strange counters to promotional items.
But for whatever reason the short circuit never got one, despite being released alongside the widowmaker, which also a was community made promo weapon *and* got a strangifier for it
That is actually completely understandable
The final comic's script is done. The writers got messaged by a group that wanted to make an unofficial end to it. The writers told them in a post that they actually had finished the script by working on it on and off over the years and all that has to be done is for the comic art to be drawn. We just have to wait a little longer to finally get the ending to it.
Despite the events from the past few years, TF2's legacy will still be a positive one. We "nitpick" some of TF2's issues because of how good the rest of the game is. It's unique, revolutionary, insane, comedic, and FUN!!! You can see how the market has changed due to the influence of TF2 and the games directly inspired by it. Being in the TF2 community as long as I was allowed me to see TH-camrs rise, inspire, and sometimes leave. YOU ARE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THIS! I saw your tf2 Jaws video in early 2020 and joined your discord server soon after. I participated in multiple community events, made friends, and left a legacy that affects the servers today (look at the strategy gamer category). I'm no longer on the server as I've attempted to focus on IRL issues, but I still interact with the friends I made on that server very often. Heck, I've been doing EU4 modding for an event Py is hosting. Something important that we can all take away from tf2 is that nothing great lasts forever. I've had my time and moved on to other games (for better and for worse). Thank you for entertaining us for the past 4 years, and good luck in your future endeavors.
They have helped fix the bot issue but with all the neglect it's like putting a single bandaid on a blown off limb
I'd say that's pretty apt. A sentiment I ran into a lot prior to the recent banwave was "we don't need content updates just fix the game and we'll be fine", but personally I think most of this was just cope. As evidence for this, most of the responses to it that I've seen have all had a "this is the bare minimum we shouldn't just be satisfied now" message. I think the second one not only reflects the community's true feelings, I think it reflects reality better as well. We were selling ourselves short to accept a future where valve continues to make profits off a game with such little effort put in from their end. The way I see it, even without the bot crisis Valve's inaction would still be slowly killing the game. I think we just needed the bogeyman out of the picture for a moment in order to truly appreciate the magnitude of Valve's other failings in regards to the game. The consequences of neglect, if mentioned at all, were always overshadowed by the bot spam. Now that we can actually foresee a future where the bots can never cause such trouble again, it is much easier to survey the landscape and spot the other rotting flesh wounds Valve has left untouched because they're not as visible.
You know it's bad when we don't even really want the heavy update anymore
One thing I never understood is the pip-boy. It's a cosmetic thst changes the pda hud... so why isn't it in the pda slot?
It takes up a cosmetic slot that really should be open. It does the job a reskin usually does and there are already items that replace a default cosmetic as a weapon. The pip boy does the same as the cozy camper, just without any stats.
It's like watching a dog live it's life, at first u don't know what to do, then memories start appearing, but when it grows old and you know what's gonna happen. That's the feeling we have.
It was good ride. You've done a lot for the community during your time here. I hope you can find success and enjoyment in your future endeavors.
14:42 the spooky head bouncers would be one of my favorite cosmetics if it was a misc, i wanted so much to use it with the reel fly hat in pyro to have those silly eyes...
Samwiz started and finished college (and maybe a couple years of high school as well) in the time it took Valve to do basic security updates.
Man.
I hope that severing the basically toxic relationship you have with tf2 will help with making content that's enjoyable for us AND you, Sam.
Thank you for your service to the game, you magnificent bastard. You did more than could be expected of anyone.
"Throughout PC and console, I alone am the lazy one, imaginary technique:unlimited bans"
Life moves on, with or without the some of it's parts.
We appriciate the real-life update at the end, congrats on graduating, Sam.
Just gotta look straight forward.
Smile because it happened
I’m still crying regardless. 😭
Too real
So bittersweet 😔😔
🥲
Wait guys who am I?
6:18 i think there is a point where complaining goes from genuine concern to just being a dick about it,
Its eric smith and a contractor who works on the game, and that's it, and eric smith to my knowledge only approves of the community stuff,
it took 1 guy 2 years to fix a game as held together by spaghetti like tf2 on their own,
this isn't a large or even small dev team doing nothing, its 2 guys doing about as much as they can, the contractor to my knowledge wasn't even hired for tf2 but asked to do it,
the bots were not 1 lone issue, they were the issue, people weren't dpomg ot for a fresh update to the game, Savetf2 and fixtf2's express purposes were to get rid of bots and show valve people love this game,
this isn't "valve" doing this, this is most literally 1 guy who decided to work on tf2, when you treat individuals as corporations your doing really nothing but discrediting the one guy,
also the 4chan scout cosplayer i find really funny cause the alternative is "this guy has been standing there for over a hour" and they just think they're weird,
which rather than a conspiracy that they were told to avoid them, it kinda makes more sense the single guy outside the building who apparently only had a loosely related sign and seemingly wasn't saying anything, is probably going to be weird, and they're avoiding eye contact to not get their attention lmao
Love how the video in the page is for the saxxy of "most pwnage", which is the one that got destroyed a week or two ago
1. Allow FTP players to use voice commands/chat
2. Bring back Chemistry sets and Halloween effects for weapons.
3. Fix the lag-spikes that came with the 64-bit update (and fix the lag with Virginia servers too).
4. New Killstreak sheens and Effects, New Aussie weapons, new Festive weapons.
This game's state is like spamming E for Medic knowing damn well we don't have one. Maybe we may get a Medic, but until then, the 10k hour plus Soldiers thinking a Medic will pocket them because they have an unusual calls will ring out into the empty void that is the Valve office... and our hearts.
Despite continuing to play throughout 90% of the bot hosting era, only finally giving up recently, anything short term valve does to "fix" TF2 is too late for me.
I've spent almost my entire playtime on VSH community servers, but when those servers fully died earlier this year, I moved on from TF2.
TF2 is how you do casual team shooters right, the freedom Overwatch lacks, the easy going that valerent lacks, but the option to go to those styles is there, there is a lot to do and I can’t help but love it, but some much come and go as they need so new life can take root in themself
Sam, it’s unfortunate to see you leave the community, your time and effort has been much appreciated and we are honoured that you’ve spent as much time with us as you have, organising as many community events as you did despite being busy with college. Your content and style of humour was immaculate, and you managed to breathe so much life into a quite frankly decaying community, your work has brought joy to so many, and although we’re sad to see you go, we’ll support you on your future endeavours.
Congrats on graduating college, and on behalf of the whole TF2 Community…
Thank you for everything, and we can’t wait to see what you do in the future!
One of the best things, is that the 7th comic is being worked on right now
i loved this game, i loved playing it with friends, i loved playing it with the randos taht were on the server, i loved hearing people talk about their day to day, do dumb jokes or just chat on the voicechat, i loved that this game ment a lot to me when i was a kid, now is all nostalgia and cant be arsed to even try to play it, i rather go play something else where i can have friends than this... it was a good run, and i am happy i was there. good luck sam, your videos were really good.
I appreciate this video. It put into words what I've been feeling for so long. For many years, I was the newbie at tf2 looking up at my veteran friends, but since that decade has past when I first installed the game, life has happened. I am now the person among all of my friend groups that has been playing tf2 the longest and I have seen so much. Admittedly not the most as many others, but I am just tired too. I miss the peak that I saw, and I remember hearing people complain about the game even back then. If only we all knew what'd happen.
The only reason I open the game now is to play with my friends who are the newbs, teach them the ropes, help them learn, and hope they get to experience what I can't anymore. It's so melancholic. Playing with them sometimes lets me re experience the wonder and fun I had years ago, but it's just not the same and I'm just tired... I miss my childhood
I feel like Valve got major burnout maintaining the spaghetti code mess that is TF2, and I guess is scared of hiring new talent to attempt it? Are they afraid more people getting access to TF2 will result in more leaks?
I guess its too late to worry about the leaks, dud
Its crazy that we're rapidly approaching a world where tf2 hasnt had a major update for more than 50% of its life.
Turbulence got me interested in animation and sfm opened the door to 3d animation for me. I miss those days of just messing around and making little skits, but then sfm started blue screening my computer. Blender just isn’t the same, it’s not as easy to just import and go. I lost a lot of passion for 3d animation because of that.
S2FM is a bit better then SFM, but it lacks the same community as SFM, maybe when S&box releases, S2FM will overtake SFM
It sucks that I only started playing TF2 after Jungle Inferno. I have only experienced this purgatory state that the game is currently in. The concept of new weapons or balance changes sounds revolutionary to me.
Also about the Tutorials: The spy one doesn't work since like 7 years or sth,which also means you can't do the ones that come after it,since to unlock them you have to do spies first,for reasons?
It has been a good journey,
I wish you luck on the road ahead, Samuel.
(PS. You still owe me a shard of Gromit mug mug)
An entire Great Book of Grudges against Valve. They fill the entire book.
Easily fixable dated features:
1. They do have a better server browser too, the ''simplified list" option. If only it was the default setting.
2. All that valve needs to do for the create server button is to enable steam datagram relay in-game. It is possible to do so with -enablefakeip launch option but that requires you to go out your way to do so.
I, myself, did not know TF2 existed until half a year until I found you, and when I did, I fell in love with the community. Seeing one of my favorite creators hang up his hat, or in this case, Fez, told me that this game, despite having never played it myself tells me that TF2 is a gem that should be remembered. Thanks Sam for your help in me finding a good community to enjoy.
Sam you still need to sing bad apple
We need to hear it
As a touhou fan I agree.
THE SCARIEST MASK EVER IS THE BEST COSMETICS EVER DESIGNED IN A GAME PUBLISHED ONTO STEAM AND YOU CANNOT CHANGE MY MIND!
I downloaded the game right after the ban wave, and I'm glad I did.
7th comic has been confirmed. It is a good day
I have played TF2 for a long ass time, the skin of my minecraft account is inspired by TF2 characters like Saxton Hale. Valves neglect for what in all rational thinking is an incredibly popular game with a strong community and limitless potential makes me angry. However I also understand Valve's position, as a Minecraft TH-camr who makes complex redstone builds I often publish designs on my channel that are incredibly cool and popular, but they are too complex for the average minecraft player to understand. I get swamped daily with messages from people asking me how to build things, how to get my things to work, etc, and honestly it is exhausting.
The transaction I have with my audience feels like it should be pretty straight forward, I make the thing, explain it in a video and try to teach some concepts in science, engineering and mathematics then apply that knowledge to minecraft redstone. Then I offer the thing I made as a free download for people to explore and enjoy. However the reality is that my viewers are always left wanting more, they want to build the thing, use the thing, all without investing the effort to understand how it works so inevitably they are left frustrated and disatisified when the thing doesn't work and they have no idea why and when they contact me to ask for help I am unwilling to guide hundreds of people through troubleshooting a thing they fundamentally don't understand.
If my position is anything like Valve's, having created a thing that is incredibly popular with a massive community of people rallying behind. I can honestly understand them not wanting to engage with the community and fix the product. If making games is the passion of a developer then TF2 is just an old project for which they no longer feel passionate about, and so who are we to force them to care about it?
could have left the last bit out, had nothing to do with the subject of the video
this seems like a christmas list, and I don't believe in santa
I’m all seriousness this was a spectacular video man and while dour in subject it still was an enjoyable viewing experience. I wish only the best for ya moving forward and I should probably stop procrastinating my finals right about now.
Sam, you have been one of my biggest inspirations in the world of content creation for the better part of the last 5 years. So many times before then, I looked at an idea and waved it aside for one reason or another and it wasnt until I found your channel where I finally let the pressure i felt subside.
Your attitude towards streaming and video creation has always felt so low key and free of pressure.
The way you would just sit down with a dumb gimmick for 1 stream and say "yep thats food enough for a video" for no other reason than the fact that was fun is insanely inspirational to me.
And no where is this demonstrated better than your variety content. To this day, your Bad Piggies videos are some of my favorite on the channel, not because they are particularly well made videos, but because you found a way to make a shitty mobile game I did not remotely care about insanely fun to watch.
Just know that wherever you go next, i will be sure to follow
Half an a press
@@Splat-nx7pl Bro. Read the room. That joke is not funny.
skill based matchmaking is honestly a terrible idea for tf2
I agree.
14:35 did samwiz really call the fiestibrero a bad hat while not circling the cozy catchers, the elf cosmetics, brain cane, and jolly jester? those are EGREGIOUS
you said that 5 years ago old man
Good news, comic confirmed to still being worked on
I haven't touched this game in 3 years. My reaction to the ban wave was "neat" and I went to do other things. I don't like saying it but I just don't care about tf2 anymore
Edit: if you're looking for a new game to get addicted to, look at Darktide. It's good
That's pretty much the gist of what I'm saying here. Sucks to agree with someone on a matter like this, but I'm cynically glad I'm not alone in that feeling. :/
@@Samwiz1i like the game but i never really felt like i could break into the community i always felt so distant to the community /:
@@Samwiz1 the thing is - i wanna care about tf2, i try to care about tf2, but i really don't
Literally the same happnede to me. I just remembered this game when I was doing some clean-up on my pc and gave it a go since I hadn't played since early 2022. Even playing a few matches bot-free I did not like this game anymore, but I was glad some people did.
play tf2 !
Sam I enjoy your content so much and I am so happy for you that you decided to move in a forward direction for your channels sake cannot wait to see what you do and I hope if you come back to TF2 you do it for the sake of enjoyment only :)
Tf2 will NEVER die. Current PLAYER base consistently goes on a burn out for a month or a year (depending on a sevirity) and eventually come back, and while they were gone, someone else returned from burn out and replaced the one who left. Rinse and repeat.
CORRECT !!
TF2 is, without joke, the only game that I can go into any day and find a bunch of funny guys with whom I'll have a great time
Sometimes it's relaxed, silly games where half the players are dancing, and sometimes it's intense matches with a well-oiled team mechanism
Whenever I log in, I don’t wait longer than a minute and immediately jump into the game and surprisingly rarely see the same faces in the lobby
I just noticed that the music in the intro is from the old RTS game ‘Rise of Nations’. I’ve been playing it all my life, so as soon as I heard it, my PTSD triggered.
Disagree with the thesis entirely, i could definitely be content for the rest of tf2's lifespan with no major updates, id much rather have a phenomenal game that is still fun thousands of hours later than a bad game with constant updates that are NECESSARY to even entertain the idea of still playing. I like this gameplay a lot and its that simple
I have never played tf2 but I love your videos and I could understand the burnout, I watch a lot of content creators for tf2 but due to the stigma of the game, I don't feel like it is worth my time to get into just the game die out by the time I get decent at it.
We’re getting the final comic.
Sadly, i gotta admit that this game isn't saveable. This ban wave did something but didn't do half of what's needed. We've been so abandoned we settle for the barest ass of a minimum
I don't live in the games industry bubble, I live in the I want to play whatever I want to play bubble. To me this isn't a live service game that needs constant updates. I just wanna play a good game that I like. I didn't grow up in the live service constant additions then game gets shut down age and I haven't accepted it as normal. Chess doesn't need updates to be a game I want to play when I feel like it and neither does TF2, simple as that
Haven't watched the video but I did read the tldr. I agree but for the first time in a while, I can be happy. At this point I can sit and say we had a good run. This isn't laying down and completely accepting it, naturally I want more for this game, but I feel like I can at least let this game go with a smile now. I'm more at peace with it.
This video is the five stages of grief
I will personally only give up on the fixtf2 movement when free to play's can speak.
New players not being able to speak just alienate new players and prevent them from getting into this game.
I've been with you since the silly british snipers sitting in the sewers. Since then I've graduated highschool, moved on to becoming a full adult, had 3 jobs, and am now old enough to drink. I can say it was one hell of a ride with you Sam. Maybe if you get back into the swing of things I can fall back in love with your content. That or you can always go back to being a bad piggies youtuber.
I've been in much the same boat, and that last section spoke to me very much.
I used to be a (small) TF2ber, and while I did have fun- I got burned out on the game always feeling the same. I'm a Heavy main, and I felt like I was talking about all the same things every other Heavy main TH-camr did, meanwhile nothing changed in the game. I wanted to do other things, but the algorithm and viewership just wasn't there. I was putting days of editing into content I didn't have a heart for.
I started streaming for a bit, and it was fun- there was so much more engagement on that side. But it wasn't creative. It wasn't something I could put my heart into, not in the same way.
I've always wanted to come back. Tried a few times. But I've never felt that real push to do so, especially with TF2. And despite all that, I still love the game. I can't bring myself to sell my old Heavy set- despite the fact that I've been having it rough for a while and could really use the money. I can't sell the memories. I love the game, and yet I can't bring myself to play it, either. I love the content I used to make, yet can't find the passion I used to have that pushed me to it.
I know this feeling all too well. I joined TF2 in 2012, got into the mod scene and TF2 custom server admin scene shortly after. I spent 7 or so years as a community admin for a server before dipping out due to its corruption. Tried to get into making my own community servers, got three up, was betrayed by a person pretending to be a brother to me, slandered, defamed, and derided by people he gaslit into believing him. Shithead even tried attacking my marriage. Hopped from server to server at that point while picking up the pieces after the asshole backdoored my servers, stole my mods/mappers and broke my servers before running off with all of it to claim as his own creation elsewhere. Tried getting into voice acting as a way to fill the gap after all that, only to then be harassed by one of the cheaters caught in that recent vac wave who recorded me drunk and used it out of context to make me look like an asshole.
This game for around 7 years or so gave me smiles, back from 2012-2019. After that, it went downhill, and FAST. Toxicity, betrayal, lies, slander and even more toxicity. This game used to bring me joy, to the point I put thousands into it, I even ended up running the official golden pan group on steam. But despite having an item like that, despite all of it, the current state of the game, compounded with all the hell I have been though has made this game a SLOG to want to play. Even now if I tell my story these stalking little shitholes will harass me, they did it a few months ago. So either I crawl under a rock, or quit entirely. This is the state of the game that I loved. That says nothing to the myriad of cheaters, and assholes in lobbies nowadays that has left me tired, traumatized, cynical and bitter. Like a family member watching their patriarch fall into Alzheimer's and turn from a once caring person into a toxicity spewing cesspit that sees family as targets. This ban wave is nice, but you are right, for us old heads, it is too little, too late. They should have gotten rid of them years ago, they should have taken reports seriously so voices like mine would not have been lost in the crashing waves of negligence of this company.
I love TF2, I always have loved TF2, but now, I have to struggle to even play a 2fort lobby with friends before some toxic dickhead makes me wonder why I still play this game. I just want to play with my friends and do acting. I once wanted to bring new gamemodes to TF2 and bring back that old energy, but at this point I dont feel it's even worth it.
As much as I don't watch your videos anymore, I can't thank you enough, your community is the best place I've ever found and I wouldn't know what to do without it.
(I did watch this video fully though)
I started playing tf2 in 2023, and I've convinced my friends and girlfriend to pick it up too this year, you can take solace in knowing it is indeed safe for a next generation of players :)
Why would you pick up this game where the devs intentionally ignore it? You're picking up a corpse and trying to have fun with it and ignore that it's dead. For the longest time you could not even enjoy it casually as bots completely wrecked the game for years on end. Just go play something that actually cares about you. Go play co-op elden ring, go play co-op deep rock galactic.
@@MrDrManPerson my current laptop cant handle much, and my girlfriend and I love the charm that the characters have, but then again I play mostly old games, I'm still playing battlefield 2 from 2005 after all
@matstick199 Your laptop can handle Deep Rock Galactic of it can handle TF2. DRG is smaller and less intense. I play a lot of old games, too, using an emulator. Also huge fan of BF2. I love TF2, I really do but I can't respect something that does not respect me. Since you play older games like me I'm sure you understand the fatigue of modern gaming. TF2 has had that symptom for years and I see no reason to reward that behavior. Imagine falling in love with it again only to realize it has never changed like a bad ex ready to abuse your time once more. Valve is working on a hero shooter and as soon as that's out, you can expect TF2 to get ignored even harder.
@@MrDrManPerson i mean I don't really miss much new stuff in tf2, guess its because i didn't play it during its hayday due to being a console scrub, but tbh, tf2 is not the worst game I've ever played, I used to play a lot of war thunder and that is as bad as it gets for me, tf2 is fine compared to that shit show,
I got nostalgic for that rise of nations ost, nice video man
25:05 the pomson literally looks like a Roblox item that’s how bad it is
I'll be sticking with you and your channel. I watch videos where people are happy with what they make or play, and you and your friends are almost always having a good time. So please do play what you want to play, or make what you want to make, and have fun while doing it!
congrats on graduating
as on everything else, I agree with your mentioned issues and a lot has to be fixed. I personally play a lot sometimes and then not for months. The banning of the bots was a reason for me to get back into it and I've been enjoying it outside of SOME matchmaking issues. I hope valve really goes back to fix (some of) your mentioned issues and making the game better in general
Man that last segment was a great puts a lot of fhings into perspective, congrats on graduating, keep growing man :3
This is a great summary of the problem this game has faced for years now I remember even before bots started taking over the problem was that the game just didn't get enough updates but after the bots and cheaters showed up that sentiment changed to most players being happy with whatever scraps of content valve threw at the game until now.
I love this game and I really do wanna see it grow strong again and flourish like I know it can, I just don't think I can trust valve to do it especially with how they have launched and maintained CS2 as of late.
It's genuinely depressing to watch how far valve has fallen from "God like game company" to "The money hungry owners of steam" just kinda hurts, but in the end we cant force them to do anything unless we stop supporting these practices and even then that doesn't guarantee anything sadly.
Even if I hadn't played as long as you did, Its completely understandable where you coming from
It's hard to find fun in something if you've been doing the same dance for over a decade.
Like man I've been getting into Payday 2 recently and it's been fun, tho I'm not planning on abandoning TF2. Craft the path ya want and enjoy the things that'll be given to you along the way
nop , TF2 SHALL LIVE FOREVER , TF2 IS INFINITELY REPLAYABLE WITH TONS OF FUN AND EXCITEMENT , We NEVER get bored from it , new games are garbage , some gamers play regularly , some gamers play once every week or once in 10 to 15 days !!! few of them leave it for some time but then come back to it !! it will NEVER get boring !! theres toooo much to do in casual , so many techniques to master , so many game play modes and weapons , new scenes and new stuff happens , maps and gameplay feel fresh and new even if you have played the same map 100s of times ! and tons of new modes in community servers too !
Nothing can last forever. All games at the end of the day will get old. There will be no more unique content to make and the game will become boring. But I think for devs and a game its important to provide a place you can return to, so even after a couple of years it will be as playable as in the past. Its important to make game stable and self-sustainable for this.
7th tf2 comic coming. The west hasn't fallen yet.
I'm hoping that Valve will fully commit to this TF2 movement and bring in a decently big update for this summer update, though I do know it's not impossible for them to just leave it at bot bans and bug fixes, I dearly do hope and wait to see what else they may do now that they've shown public efforts in fighting and crushing the bot crisis in this swift move after possibly a long planning and setup to it if what I've heard about them working behind the scenes over the 2 years is true, also congratulations on graduating!
I’m tired of the “crusty old tf2uber tries to get everyone to feel the same malaise as he does” shit
I only started playing TF2 around 2019, hell this game is older than me by a couple months, I never really experienced "normal" or "peak" TF2. For me, nothing is that stagnant for me, although I feel like I missed out on most of the game and I've not put that much hours into the game or been trying to "get gud" so there's a slight feeling of that. But the whole reason I couldn't do such things is because I've never played without bots being a non issue, I mean yeah, we've gotten the odd week break of no bots, but it's always been there. There is a slight light at the end of the tunnel though, if bots stay out of casual from now on (big IF right there), I might actually be able to put in the hours and get to experience mastering rocket jumping, getting good at sniper, playing spy. This however hinges on if long time TF2 fans keep playing casual, I feel like many people were able to get good as everyone else was also learning the game at the time they hopped on, but now I have to compete with either bots or people with almost 8K hours in order to just play, not even trying to get good.
I feel like even if the older generations forget about this game there is still posibilities for this game to flourish, kind of like that meme you inserted at 1:58.
I don't think the game will survive within just an older generation, and that's what happens with older games but we're only just now seeing the effects of that as games have only gotten this old now, due to gaming not being that old in the first place.
The way I see it, even if the older generations leave TF2, it will still flourish. It will be more like a reset or inheritance to younger generations, where the community gets to relearn the game, but in a quicker fashion.
Yes, there will be people who come back or never leave due to how big an impact this game had on them, but it feels like this is just a factory reset, just without updates unless Valve updates the game (which even if we look in a hopeful manner the up most we might get is an anti-cheat).
the writings been on the wall for a long time
Dying embers of a once bright star.
That is what I would describe TF2 as.
This game has provided the utmost level of joy to all those who were part of it across the years, proving a sense of community, comfort, and fun not many games are able to provide. In the end, however, all things must come to and end.
This game had a good run, and its community an even better one. This community is one of the things that first comes to mind when I think of the word determination, as its persistence even in the most dire and abyssal of situations is something to be admired…
Though, determination can only persist for so long. A fire is not capable of burning for eternity, especially in a harsh winter. As this game slowly starts fading due to neglect, unfortunately so will its community. It is a true grievance, that old players will no longer have something to look forward to and a reason to keep playing, and that new players will never have the feeling of an exciting new update to play around with, as well no reason to even play the game in the first place.
Even if this chapter of our lives may come to an end, by all means we must still smile that it happened. We must still smile that we got to experience all those wonderful things, from the class vs class events, to scream fortress and smissmas, and all those updates which made us smile back then. Whether early or late to the party, it is still nice that we got to feel alive in it, even if for a bit. To grieve deeply is to have loved fully.
To the community of the game, stand proud. Know you have endured more than what can be described by words. To the old players, smile fondly for the memories you had made. It is better you experience nostalgia for the past than to not have experienced a past at all. We appreciate you being there, from the very start of the party. To the newer players such as I, continue to enjoy what remains of this game before it fades. You may have not experienced the fond memories of old, yet that does not mean you cant make new ones. You may have arrived late to the party, but by all means you have all added much life to it.
I know not what may possibly lie next for this game, but if it shall fade then know this: I enjoyed my stay. I enjoyed the things I was able to experience even if it wasn’t any major update or event. I enjoyed being a part of this community, and even if it shall give out one day I will remember this community till I draw my last breath.
In essence, thank you all for being a part of the long journey of TF2. Take the fond memories of this game and its community, and carry it wherever you may go. Even if a star is fading, be happy for the light it provided you.
This is simply something I wrote to ramble a bit, and to let myself process everything in retrospect. My apologies if it was a long read.