I flew on OJA in 1993from Cairns to Sydney . There is a plaque on the rear bulkhead to commemorate the London SYD flight . I felt honoured to be aboard
Not necessarily. The technology is (in all likelihood) in existance but in the 90s they didn't imagine that great hubs that were worth stopping over in (like Singapore, HK, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, etc.) would exist. The problem is more that no one want to fly for 20 hours, not that they can't do it.
Pretty soon after this, there was an explosion of stories and cases of thrombosis - blood circulation issues for passengers on long flights. Pretty soon, longer = worse.
I went to see it at Illawarra Airport, and I couldn't believe that this plane flew the world's longest ever delivery flight and the shortest retirement flight!!!
My wife & I flew to Sydney with Qantas for our honeymoon on the 14th August 1989 and the pilot pointed out to look at this particular 747 which was sitting on the stand getting ready to go.
The 777-200LR(Long Range) flew 11,664 nautical miles(21,601 km) during it's 22 hour and 42minute flight from Hong Kong to London Heathrow on Nov 9th 2005.
We go out of our way to avoid long flight: This was a special, special fuel, the best food, very few passengers who had the whole plane to themselves. I remember this and a similar flight made by an A340 to an air display at Avalon near Melbourne a couple of years later. This was the plane that opened up non stop flights between Australia to the US; before that you had to take a 747SP.
She is NOW retired, her last flight will be in a few weeks time (March exact day not set) she will fly from Sydney to HARS (Historical Aviation Restoration Society) Illawarra Regional Airport, Corner of Boomerang and Airport Roads, Albion Park Rail NSW 2527
Back in 1989 reporter Robert Penfold said "A fully passengered non-stop flight (from Britain to Australia) is perhaps ten years away." Here we are in 2018, almost thirty years later and Qantas has only just started non-stop Australia - UK flights from Perth with the 787-9 Dreamliner.
This is one of the most extraordinary feats of flying in history - who would have thought that when the Wright Brothers took off in their flyer that a plane would fly from London to Sydney non-stop! Yeah it was a delivery flight, but a remarkable feat nonetheless. This record will never ever be broken.
I think it would need to be wind assisted. With extra payload, the flight won't be able to take on as much fuel and remember with this flight, they started engines at the runway threshold. It will be interesting to see if an airline is brave enough to try it. Mind you, I would never take a flight that long, I prefer two shorter legs, with a break in between.
It took 29 years before a nonstop commercial service between Australia to London, albeit from Perth and on a very different type of aircraft: the 787-9 Dreamliner
A long way as well, will require careful planning for alternate airports and the such - tbh I'd prefer 2 shorter legs for me to get to Europe from where I live.
Fantastic piece of history caught. I'm putting together a farewell video of OJA and have been piecing it together since its "initial farewell flight" back on 7 December 2014 and have recorded about 4 final flights of this aircraft, and was able to capture its last revenue flight on 14 January. With your permission, am I able to use the video footage you have compiled here so as to make a complete historical journey of this amazing aircraft before it is finally laid to rest at Albion Park Airport. Full accreditation will be given to you for allowing use of this footage. Best regards.
what was a great achievement. funny to realize that Quantas will start a nonstop London-Sidney service in just over a year with a beautiful 787-9 fleet.
had a beer with ray heinenger the other night he was the co pilot on the record breaking flight in 1989, they bang on about running out of fuel for the flight, but what was a real worry was that the engines were running dangerously low on lubricating oil for the jet engines, they were even going to shut down 2 engines in flight so they could make the distance if they had to!
In March 2018, Qantas will begin nonstop flights between Perth and London-Heathrow using Boeing 787-9 aircraft. The flight will cover 14,499 kilometres (7,829 nmi)[38] and last about 17 hours.
So this may seem like a silly question but is the only reason they were able to pull this flight off because they had only 24 people on board and if so then what was the point of going through with it?
@@notsureyou There's not going to be such flights for years I don't think. The aviation sector is fighting just to keep its head above water. Pandemic has put these sort of flights on permanent hold.
A decade away, huh? It's March 2018 and in a week (on 24th) Qantas will start a first ever commercial non-stop route from Australia to Europe, Perth - London on 787-9. And it won't even be the longest regular flight. That will still belong to Qatar Airways flight 921 from Auckland, New Zealand to Doha, Qatar on 777-200LR.
At least we have a London - Perth non-stop now. London - Sydney would be so inefficient with current technology, it may only be feasible for first/business class fliers.
Most of us are doing this in economy. 20+ hrs in the middle seat??? Qantas is starting London to Perth in 2018, but that is a few miles away from Sydney...
Well flying sucks now In economy with 17 to 17.9 in seats it is crazy. BA doing 10 across from Gatwick on the 777 my word. Delta has about the best international route width seats left everyone else like virgin or Ba is 17.5 economy. Even business class seats are often only 18.5 on some that blows the mind.
I flew on OJA in 1993from Cairns to Sydney . There is a plaque on the rear bulkhead to commemorate the London SYD flight . I felt honoured to be aboard
a decade from then still no non-stop flights from sydney to london. it was a huge overstatement.
Not necessarily. The technology is (in all likelihood) in existance but in the 90s they didn't imagine that great hubs that were worth stopping over in (like Singapore, HK, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, etc.) would exist. The problem is more that no one want to fly for 20 hours, not that they can't do it.
Pretty soon after this, there was an explosion of stories and cases of thrombosis - blood circulation issues for passengers on long flights. Pretty soon, longer = worse.
I went to see it at Illawarra Airport, and I couldn't believe that this plane flew the world's longest ever delivery flight and the shortest retirement flight!!!
My wife & I flew to Sydney with Qantas for our honeymoon on the 14th August 1989 and the pilot pointed out to look at this particular 747 which was sitting on the stand getting ready to go.
a decade away for regular fights? well it's now 26 years later, and still not yet
+Darrell Nichols yes well the 777-200LR is probably capable
An a380 flew from Dubai to Christchurch non stop, not the same distance though. 777-200lr would probably do it but are they still in production?
Wes K 777-200LR are doing Dubai to Auckland non stop now
The 777-200lr and a380 can fly from Los Angeles to Dubai non-stop.
The 777-200LR(Long Range) flew 11,664 nautical miles(21,601 km) during it's 22 hour and 42minute flight from Hong Kong to London Heathrow on Nov 9th 2005.
Me miss the 747-400 end of a great era 😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️
Boeing took great pride and interest in this record flight. The 747 The plane that made travel available for the masses.
I flew OJA many times as crew, i even have a little model of her.
We go out of our way to avoid long flight: This was a special, special fuel, the best food, very few passengers who had the whole plane to themselves. I remember this and a similar flight made by an A340 to an air display at Avalon near Melbourne a couple of years later. This was the plane that opened up non stop flights between Australia to the US; before that you had to take a 747SP.
We miss you Qantas VH-OJA
What a great video. Thank you for putting this together. Recall watching this on the Tele when I was 7 years old.
I remember seeing it come in over Gladesville on the way to land. A great achievement.
She is NOW retired, her last flight will be in a few weeks time (March exact day not set) she will fly from Sydney to HARS (Historical Aviation Restoration Society) Illawarra Regional Airport, Corner of Boomerang and Airport Roads, Albion Park Rail NSW 2527
im ex hars, 9 yrs i was there when hars was just 2 portacabins...
Like the A380, but the 747 is still queen of the skies if you ask me
+fariezee A380 is the king.
Agreed. The 747 looks beautiful on take off and landing
I have been on both and I prefer the 747
EazyKM I say Boeing 777
EazyKM becouse the Boeing 777x can reach further routs that the airbus a380 and Boeing 747
VH-OJA wore a familiar name in Qantas history, "City of Canberra," the name that was also used on the airline's very first jet - a Boeing 707-138.
Back in 1989 reporter Robert Penfold said "A fully passengered non-stop flight (from Britain to Australia) is perhaps ten years away." Here we are in 2018, almost thirty years later and Qantas has only just started non-stop Australia - UK flights from Perth with the 787-9 Dreamliner.
This is one of the most extraordinary feats of flying in history - who would have thought that when the Wright Brothers took off in their flyer that a plane would fly from London to Sydney non-stop! Yeah it was a delivery flight, but a remarkable feat nonetheless. This record will never ever be broken.
Anthony Kernich I'd put money on it being broken within 3 years...
I think it would need to be wind assisted. With extra payload, the flight won't be able to take on as much fuel and remember with this flight, they started engines at the runway threshold. It will be interesting to see if an airline is brave enough to try it. Mind you, I would never take a flight that long, I prefer two shorter legs, with a break in between.
Disagree. I'd put money on it.
Qantas is doing Melbourne-Perth-London next year with its brand new 787's, which is close!
the wright brothers even didn't complete their task, the 14-bis did and in front of audience!!!
It took 29 years before a nonstop commercial service between Australia to London, albeit from Perth and on a very different type of aircraft: the 787-9 Dreamliner
That was when the famous "Kangaroo Route" finally became non-stop.
its still not commercially non stop
This non stop flight was only possible because it was the delivery flight......the aircraft was as "light" as possible.
they used high density fuel, no payload and towed the aircraft to the runway before engine start
*****
Fast forward to 2017.....Qantas will be flying from Perth to London non stop in their soon to be aquired 787/9 Dreamliners.
A long way as well, will require careful planning for alternate airports and the such - tbh I'd prefer 2 shorter legs for me to get to Europe from where I live.
Fantastic piece of history caught.
I'm putting together a farewell video of OJA and have been piecing it together since its "initial farewell flight" back on 7 December 2014 and have recorded about 4 final flights of this aircraft, and was able to capture its last revenue flight on 14 January. With your permission, am I able to use the video footage you have compiled here so as to make a complete historical journey of this amazing aircraft before it is finally laid to rest at Albion Park Airport. Full accreditation will be given to you for allowing use of this footage.
Best regards.
No problem.
Cheers.
Thanks very much for that. You are a great person for allowing me to use your footage.
I can't wait to see these footage's.
They should have farewelled it by recreating the flight!
1:20 It has been 16 years and we are still saying 5 more years to go....
they will be starting a London to Perth nonstop flight next year
1989 was not 16 years ago, it was 26 years ago when you posted that
A century later this year, Qantas made history by flying PER-LHR on the 787-9, the first ever non stop between the UK and Australia
Kevin Meno did you watch the video, the 744 was the first 18 years ago. LoL
RIP, Capt David Massy-Greene.
I was fortunate enough to speak to him during a tour of the 747 about a year before he passed.
Excellent working
Finally after three decades this will be a reality
And, nearly 30 years later, we are still waiting for that non-stop commercial flight - the 10 year estimate was a more than optimistic.
Those engines looks so clean and white! The same engines today seem to look dull and grey.
How were they able to fly at 45,000ft with all that fuel weight or did they mean they reached 45,000ft by doing step climb?
From memory once they became a bit lighter they climbed to that Altitude.
Rob Penfold was on hand also to see the last landing of VH-OEJ, the final Qantas 747, in the Mojave desert
Well it’s 2018 almost 30 years ago they said this would happen. 3
Days ago Qantas did the Perth-London at 17 hours. Still no Sydney-London.
what was a great achievement. funny to realize that Quantas will start a nonstop London-Sidney service in just over a year with a beautiful 787-9 fleet.
tw25rw sorry, you're right!
......Qantas.....
10 years later of technology but still not broken until 2017 1989+10=1999
had a beer with ray heinenger the other night he was the co pilot on the record breaking flight in 1989, they bang on about running out of fuel for the flight, but what was a real worry was that the engines were running dangerously low on lubricating oil for the jet engines, they were even going to shut down 2 engines in flight so they could make the distance if they had to!
I flew this aircraft 17.12.1997 SYD SIN LHR.
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There u go QF 9 MAKES HISTORY NON STOP FLIGHT TO LONDON FROM MELBOURNE VIA PERTH
In March 2018, Qantas will begin nonstop flights between Perth and London-Heathrow using Boeing 787-9 aircraft. The flight will cover 14,499 kilometres (7,829 nmi)[38] and last about 17 hours.
So this may seem like a silly question but is the only reason they were able to pull this flight off because they had only 24 people on board and if so then what was the point of going through with it?
Bragging rights
It was a delivery flight, and Qantas turned it into a publicity stunt by flying non-stop.
A delivery flight would normally be Everett, WA to SYD.
30 years later and technology is avaible, but... even tho A350 could serve this flight, I think Qantas will wait five more years for Boeing 777.
The 777 300er or even the 200lr is perfectly capable of doing such flights
@@ParamDeshpandepass123 Not in a pandemic they're not
With the A350-900ULR, it has the range (if all goes to plan),
But it wouldn't be financially viable.
@@notsureyou There's not going to be such flights for years I don't think. The aviation sector is fighting just to keep its head above water. Pandemic has put these sort of flights on permanent hold.
Is that 747-400ER ?
Nope, Qantas didn't get the 400ER until 2002
The ER didnt come out until 2000. This flight was in 1989
This 747-400 should continue with its 20 hrs in flight up to now
Why don't they do this non-stop?
Because it's expensive to replace a plane that has run out of fuel and landed in a field over Turkey
A decade away, huh?
It's March 2018 and in a week (on 24th) Qantas will start a first ever commercial non-stop route from Australia to Europe, Perth - London on 787-9.
And it won't even be the longest regular flight. That will still belong to Qatar Airways flight 921 from Auckland, New Zealand to Doha, Qatar on 777-200LR.
Why did the 747-400 taking off have Rolls Royce Turbonfans but, then ones landing had GE engines instead?
Now we have New York to Sydney
At least we have a London - Perth non-stop now. London - Sydney would be so inefficient with current technology, it may only be feasible for first/business class fliers.
También lo ha echo el A380 de Qantas
Well, we do have plane able to do that, but the problem is how often can that happen.
Most of us are doing this in economy. 20+ hrs in the middle seat??? Qantas is starting London to Perth in 2018, but that is a few miles away from Sydney...
1:35 Where is the front wheel? lmao
SPONGE SQUID ikr and the wing
Lol ikr
Look carefully
I see it
This, year, 29 years later, you can now fly London to Australia in just one hop!
Now u can't 😭😭
WELP, 26 years later and.... well you know the story
It's 30 years later. Can all planes do this no problem now?
TheEgg185 no this 747-400 was empty and had special fuel. They can’t do this with passengers.
777-8 will be able to do this route with passengers and cargo
I don't think it will be able to take 350 passengers, 280 maybe but not 350
Andrew I took the numbers from @djaviaition I think the A350 ULR can also match those numbers
Qantas doesn't want the A350ULR because it won't be able to get the passengers and cargo it wants
The 747 is the queen of skies but 747-400 rip
Unthinkable! 20 hours in a Jumbo! Yuk! OK for Business class but a trial for cattle class.
I have a wish on my bucketlist after seeing this: fly the Kangaroo route once.
Brian told me!
This would've been a lot easier after 1991.
Well HERE we come 2020 PROJECT SUNRISE would have taken place by then making this possible.
The Project Sunrise
Now it the 787-10
Few market crashes and recessions, yeah, progress does slow down when people get too greedy.
Once the a359r gets airborne then we will see a big change.
Sydney-London.
But who In their right mind would not pay for eco premium or higher?
I would still rather have the layover as opposed to a direct flight.
A chance to really stretch the legs, plus DUTY FREE!!! :-)
I have a model of this very plane named Cashew
It maybe a commercial jet but it was not a "commercial flight".
It met the bare necessities to be a commercial flight.
But it wasn't a Commercially scheduled flight
Here's the presentation I put together, and thank you for allowing me to use your footage. th-cam.com/video/WdGQDQ_GgJg/w-d-xo.html
Cheers
Well flying sucks now In economy with 17 to 17.9 in seats it is crazy. BA doing 10 across from Gatwick on the 777 my word. Delta has about the best international route width seats left everyone else like virgin or Ba is 17.5 economy. Even business class seats are often only 18.5 on some that blows the mind.
20 HOURS??? dam.
Imagine the stench from hundreds of unwashed bodies and coming from overflowing toilets.
The lady with that big eyeglasses must be a joke!
Paulo Seewald Nope that's just how glasses were in the 80s
Aircraft is retired by now.
yes shes at HARS, goolge her, VH-OJA FINAL FLIGHT
So...where they put all the fuel needed for a 22 hr flight...
I call it "bolony"..jet engines runs predominantly on compress air.
Investigate
Rolls Royce power.
thefridgeman the amazing power that would 30 years later ground an entire fleet of planes. Fuck RR.