GAGAGAGAGA I just disliked my own face because I am unpretty. HOWEVER: I always like my GOOD videos however. No dislikes allowed where I come from. Don't be mean, dear rarwr
I feel for the girl tearing up on her story of disappointing her parents for losing her virginity and especially her dads reaction to it as well but also knowing it’s a natural part of life at that teen phase and at least she did not get pregnant or happened out of feeling pressured or out of her own will…
"It feels kind of culty" is the exact reason I left the church ten years ago (that and many, many others). Growing up Mormon is hard, and leaving is even harder. I hope these two find their chosen families outside of church and explore all that life has to offer, without the fear of judgment attached.
Ex-Mormon here. Starting out with hard liquor as your first alcoholic drink is SUCH a horrible idea. It's better to ease into it with beer, wine, or sweet cocktails. My first alcoholic drink was Shock Top, which was a perfect choice. As a side note, alcoholism amongst Ex Mormons is unfortunately SUPER common. When we're prohibited from using something our whole lives, it's not surprising that we overcompensate later in life, and that can lead to addiction problems. Sex and porn addiction tends to be pretty common too, for the same reason. Just remember, use moderation and common sense when transitioning from high demand religion.
honestly I think starting with a vodka shot is smart because it's abrasive and they're less likely to want to abuse alcohol than if their first experience was something pleasant like a pina colada
😂 coming from a Pentecostal family here my first drink was jack daniels 07 and I thought that it was the best shit until I started drinking crown and crown and the 8% harder mikes cans are my favorite things right now
This made me laugh so hard! I can't believe they were given straight vodka for their first drink and shot gunning a beer, WTF? These guys will never touch alcohol again! Why such crappy choices for their first time? They should have given them a rum & coke or a gin and tonic for their first drink, maybe a daquiri or something, but a shot of vodka? 🤣
I hope she does get to move out soon and see how beautiful life can be without the restraints her parents put on her. I also hope though, that their relationship doesn't become estranged when that happens.
😂 Mormon is very strict. They aint missing much that coudnt possibly mess up their lives. So thats what some of these people are having, fun... Restraints from parents with a s on parents is needed. Again morman is different im sure. I hope they atleast still be responsible and have accountability through their actions.
@@stillthinking3740 its some auto correct and text in the response. Didn't proof read to see some words completely changed. Not sure why it did that. You a bright 1 i see 😂. Use better English... Hilarious
I could relate to her a lot. I grew up in the same religion. My Papa was a Bishop and was even in the stake Presidency. My dad was a second counselor. So very into the church. I have a horrible relationship with my parents and no longer believe in God due to the abuse and sexual assault I went through from people of power in the church. The church is so toxic. I could go on and on about how horribly they treat sexual assault victims, BIPOC, women, and the LGBTQ.
Couldn't have done like, a piña colada or a daiquiri to start them off with? What about wine or beer? You just straight-up fed these kids disinfectant as their first ever experience with alcohol.
@@KJA70 Sure, but at 17 you're doing it with your friends and having fun being dumb teens, and you likely weren't raised being told that it's evil. These poor kids are just alone in a room in front of a camera doing something that until recently they considered totally forbidden. They could have done with a bit of kindness from the producers. They're probably thinking "maybe mom had a point" now.
Utterly heartbreaking to see this young woman in so much pain. I hope she can get a job and her own place to stay ASAP, perhaps join a support group for fellow ex-Mormons.
Shouldve got them to talk to eachother obv. They have much in common and they would have a fun time aswell drinking for the first time with someone else doing the very same thing.
It took a decade to recover but I completely agree. It was the best decision of my life to leave the church. Fuck that multi billion cult. I work by the Mormon temple and they had a conference for the youth. People were passing out waiting to get in. They didn’t even provide water.
That girl is the embodiment of many Mormon people, but unfortunately many of them just accept their fate and never question anything. It is a cult in every aspect of the word and I am so glad more people are starting to realize.
Exactly! I was a totally devout mormon until I started coming to terms with my sexuality because of a middle school crush in 6th grade. Jesus Christ, it's a cult. I'm glad that even though I'm not physically out, I don't believe their harmful bullshit anymore. Once I turn 18 I'm 100% out
I was twelve years old in 1980 growing up Mormon and realized that I liked what Ozzy Osbourne had to say more than Brigham Young. I started to ask questions about polygamy and why black people weren't allowed. Needless to say, I currently belong to no religion, I don't want to. Love is god and hate is fear.
How would you like one of these instead? Bacterial Vaginosis (BV) Chlamydia. Gonorrhea. Genital Herpes. Hepatitis. HIV/AIDS & STDs. Human Papillomavirus (HPV) Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID)
@Miriam Svenson I don't assume anything she expressed her degenerate promiscuity, why I do assume is that filthy degenerate immoral liberals will applaud her sexual deviance.
@Miriam Svenson easily avoided? Maybe on planet silverMoon, or wherever wonderland, where condoms don't break, you're from. As for atheists being much more promiscuous than normal, religious people - that is simply statistically true. Stop making a fool of yourself and shush until you actually have a shadow of an argument.
@@truthdefenders- I would gladly take any of those over a repressed life of religious ignorance. It's not too late for you to realize that you're wasting your life away because of archaic nonsense.
I feel so bad for Lily, her mom sounds like an absolute terror. I hope that she’s safe and she heals and gets into a better situation. I’m glad that both of them have found a way out of an oppressive and upsetting faith.
As an ex-mormon myself, I understand exactly where she is coming from and what she is going through. The transition is not easy, but there is a reasonable, happy, free world out there when you get to the other side. I wish I could give her a hug, it is such a hard thing to go through. You can be a good person and be free of religion at the same time. At least for me, the morals that I live by didn't change much.
Exactly! I’m an ex mormon too but both sets of grandparents are still heavily mormon. I wish we could befriend her so she knows she has people who understand 😢. It’s hurts because you can see how scared she is to speak her truth
I come from a similar background. I was 20 when i lost my virginity and my dad could barely speak to me for years. Both my parents response was deeply emotionally abusive and scarring. My dad thought I had lost my value as a human being because I wasnt a virgin anymore. My mom sat me down and called me a slut over and over in my face, even though I had been dating the guy for an entire year and was 20 years old not living at home..... Not only that but being indoctrinated by these beliefs gives you a complete loss of identity once you start doing things you were supposed to never ever do that 'define' your value as a person. Your identity is formed by all the things you dont do in those communities, but life happens and once you start entering adulthood its like you have no idea who you are anymore, because youve done the things you defined yourself as never had done. If that makes sense. My heart goes out to that girl. I hope she reads this and knows shes not alone.
The fact that her dad was distraught over her having had sex... that's fucked up. I hate that men can feel ownership over our body's, our decisions, to that extent. My dad is that same. It's just fucking gross honestly that a dad would want to keep this "pure" image of their daughter like he owns their fucking sexuality. Ewew I just watched a movie called Pure which was really satisfying because it hits on this issue.
@Kelly Q If it was true, the legislation would be like: adults are owned by other adults. But luckily each person owns just themselves. Kids belong to life, not to their parents. The whole father daughter purity thing is blatant sexism. Why don't we see mothers worry about their sons losing virginity? Patriarchy.
this was edited so well lol with the choir sounds and such lol. also the set design is super nice. The way you have the chair sorta floating there is cool.
Ex-Mormon from Utah here. I feel for this girl. First few years after leaving the church are brutal. Eventually your family comes around and accepts you for who you are but if they don't, fuck em.
I had to scroll so far for this comment! Like there are so many fun cocktails they could’ve tried, and they started with a shot of vodka?! Maybe they were trying to help them recreate the college experience?
Being from Utah where literally 70% of the people here are Mormon.. I feel for you girl. Good for you for breaking out of a societal box and doing what feels right for you, not what feels right for your family or anyone else. You deserve the world!!🤍
So much respect to these two. Can’t imagine what it must be like to open up like this for a video. I hope they never regret trying new things, even if those things are mistakes! To live a perfect life in shame is no life at all
Props to you guys , I love when people decide to be their own person and not listen to everyone else pounding down on them to be something they want. That’s not how life works and it shouldn’t be that way. Live your life how YOU want too. One love 🙏🏽❤️🙌🏽
im getting PTSD from my own past in hearing these kids' experiences with their religion. I'm glad they're on their way out and having awesome social experiences with caring loving people. Sometimes that's all we need.
Glad to see people opening up haha. I will say there is more to opening up than drinking but this is fun! Leaving religion helped me grow into a far more loving person today
i am not an ex mormon- i still go to church and believe in what is taught and will probably continue to stay in the church but i can definitely sympathize with both of them. i’ve had several friends leave the church and although i believe in it doesn’t mean that others will or i should force them to. i’m a big believer in the freedom to choose so i stand behind them. a family’s responsibility esp the parents is to love their kids even if they don’t believe the same things as you
I still go to church too, but now I am happier. I used to feel guilty about a lot of things and be hard on myself. I don’t care anymore. I just do what I think is right and try to be a good person in general. I am a firm believer in making your own choices. Pro-choice, pro gay marriage, pro whatever the hell you want to do as long as you not hurting yourself or others!! It’s funny how this girl’s mother is crazy and mad about her daughter making her own choices. Mormons believe in free agency. Her mother is being a hypocrite.
I would like to say this to both of them: Be free, do what you want, it’s your turn to live the life you choose. And no one out there can hold you back but your self. Get out there and experience life, go fail, so you can be successful and be able to tell your kids/grandkids how many trial and errors it took u to be successful & one day you can inspire those that look up to you who ever they may be. Y’all are both young adults now y’all know right from wrong. I heavily support both of you, seek your happiness & you’ll find your purpose along the way. Just remember this lifetime isn’t free just short, one thing we’ll never get back is time so be sure to make the rest worth it.
Oh this poor, sweet girl.. baby you’re perfect. Do not let her get you down, you very clearly made the right choice. Start introducing healthy boundaries. Watching you get anxious seeing a TEXT from her shows so much.:(
I LOVED this! The girl here seems so insightful and I love that she’s her own person and not afraid to be just that. I know first hand how much pressure the Mormon church puts on people and she is strong and brave to get out regardless of the stigma that will follow her from her Mormon peers.
I had the same experience about 7 months ago. I was a muslim my whole life, never really believed in it but changing it never seemed possible. I was so scared of my family. I told my mom that I am not a muslim but ended up just saying that i won't wear the hijab anymore to my father. Both took the news really hard. My dad still doesn't know why. My mom told me if i do drugs, drinks or sex she would cut all relations with me. I neve lie normally. I hate it but I cannot say that I have a boyfriend and we do have sex, I drink sometimes too. I just wanted to say that, never do this to your kids. They'll do what they want anyway, at least know it. Be there for them because if you don't, you'll probably lose them. My mom always cries asking me why we never talk. Why we are so distant. Because she made me think that I cannot talk to her. And I don't.
I was also born and raised Muslim from both Arab and Muslim parents.. I stopped being Muslim a year ago and til this day they still don’t believe it. I hope you feel better and become closer to your parents.
honestly I’m surprised u were even able to tell her ur not Muslim anymore. I stopped believing 4 and 1/2 years ago, but I wouldn’t dare tell my mom, I know I’d be dead to her 😞
@@hafsahm4486 I thought the same way actually. My brother was the first one that I told because I felt like he didn't believe either. I was right, he stopped being a muslim 2 years ago and he told me "Mom knows and she took it suprisingly well. I think you should tell her too" And my mom is a really smart woman, she would never believe that i "just" wasn't going to wear the hijab anymore. As soon as I told her that I won't, she asked me "You don't believe in Allah anymore?" So I couldn't and didn't want to hide. I am really sad for you tho, it is so hard to lie to people you care about but you feel like and probably have to
I'm a Muslim as well. Islam is such a beautiful religion. It's a shame how some people who come from a strict, sheltered upbringing with parents and an environment where people are ignorant of the real prinicples of Islam and use fear to control others does to a person's psyche.
@@carlwheezer2808 my grandpa always said he was a believer of the Catholic faith but he wasn’t Catholic bc catholics are die hard and can be hypocrites. We not Ángels, we all sin but we not here kicking puppies and spitting blasphemy. Ya knowz
Rooting for you girl!! As an ex-mormon myself I know how hard it is to be a confident less active. Left when I was 18, went to Uni and found myself and Love myself, I am a much happier person, I have better relationships and I am actually excited about life, because at the end of the day Heavenly Father did not bless us with this world and the people around for us to not enjoy it. You're doing great❤
At no point did I mention anything about alcohol in my comment. As an ex-mormon, I understand the traumas that come with that and they are very very real. It takes a hell of a lot to leave, especially if its all that you know and drinking is definitely not reason alone, everything else, however is. I am just here trying to support this girl, because I understand. I also know that once you make this decision you are completely seperated and Isolated from your whole life ( family, friends) and so everyone making the decision deserves all the extra support they need. Once left, a new journey starts where you have to find out who you are, understand what happiness really is and build a new and healthier relationship with yourself and your spirituality and that is what I am rooting for.
I felt so sorry for the girl, I hope she can move out fast and hopefully can enjoy here life and maybe get a more healthy relationship with here parents. And please give them more nice cocktails the next time xD
2:39 this hit hard. You really have to constantly paint a narrative for them. Anything outside of their wishes/expectations will insight so much backlash. I haven't spoken with my parents in almost a year and this is one of the reasons.
I know exactly what that girl is going though. Even though I'm a guy, my dad was very very controlling. The best thing I did was leave the house not to long after my grandma passed. She lived with us at the time, and I only stayed because I was forced to take care of her by myself during the day.
He handled that shotgun like he had some experience, you go kid! I empathize with the girl, I hope she’s okay and can cope + eventually find healing. I can’t imagine how high of standards they expect her to meet, she seems like a sweet girl who just wants to be able to fully live life and be her true self without consequence. Sending so much love and light her way 🤍
Aww man, I grew up in religion that everything from what you eat to what you wear where attacked to laws! As I got older the moment I turned 18 I disobeyed a lot of the rules, so I get it!! Poor girl sounds like she has a terrible relationship with her mom and that’s just as unhealthy . I feel for her :(
My first drink was a homemade hard cider I made from apple juice, champagne yeast, and sugar. I let it ferment in my dorm and when I tasted it I almost threw up. I poured the rest into the toilet. I tried a few shots of bottom shelf vodka a day later and the first thing I thought was “Jesus this is so much better than my hard cider”
One of the wildest experiences is when you're a kid and you go to your friends house... and their family does things totally differently. It expands your mind. I feel like they're experiencing this in a different way!
Everything about this was great, except for the drink choices 😆. Here would be my suggestions: 1. Start with a good sweet cider, or a nice craft beer if they want to try it and like the flavor 2. Let them choose a really palatable, delicious fruity cocktail, based on their flavor - maybe a pina colada, a fuzzy navel, or a mojito 3. A nice glass of wine, red or white, based on their preference 4. END with a shot (not start 😆), if something with a nice flavor - maybe a really high end, smooth bourbon, or a tequila or mezcal
I also grew up in a strict independent Baptist church my whole youth. This really helps people like us that are struggling to transition to a normal life outside a cult. This was cute!
@Miriam Svenson every religion aint no cult. 😂 just because more people are moving to be free spirited, open relationship, plus whatever. Dont mean its normal. Example: man and woman reproduce. Not man and man or woman and woman just example. Only 1 will make babies. You can choose to be nice about things 😂... The first comment called religions a cult basically... Alot of things are not normal today simple.
@@jumpstreet2425 sex is also for pleasure and not solely for reproduction. Any combination (man and man or woman and woman) produces pleasure for the consenting individuals. Also not everyone wants to have kids.
I’m a Ex-mormon grew up in a mix of Mormon and Shinto Buddhist environment. My family had always been quite lenient on tea and alcohol. Glad my parents were pretty supportive when I told them I don’t feel like going to church anymore.
My heart feels for that girl. My mom also went through my stuff. Trash, bedside tables, everything. She would take things she doesn't like away from me without telling me. She never respected my privacy and that lead me to rebel. I never felt respected. And I never learned to respect her either. I'm a lot happier without my family. I hope she can find that happiness too after she moves out.
They both seem like strong, openminded & kind people. I truly hope that their family becomes less rigid and strict about their believes and won't shun them simply because they went in a different direction when it comes to faith or ideology. I come from a strict protestant reformed background and left when I was 18... after a difficult 5-6 years my family slowly started to let me back into their lives a bit again. We're fine now (over 2 decades later). Also, the churchbench was a nice touch :D
That girl need to be in more videos trying more stuff! the "Oh hell yeah lest do it" sounded like she is taking her life in her own hands her decisions her choices, I am so glad for her! 😍😍😁😁😁😁😁😁😘😘🥰🥰😘😘 You go Girl! Any one got Lilys Socialmedias if she has any?
I’m an atheist so I wouldn’t discourage anyone from leaving their religion, especially fundamentalist religions (I’d also never presume to encourage anyone to leave). But what’s with encouraging people to drink? Alcohol is a carcinogen for many kinds of cancer. I used to drink moderately, and even now I’ll have a beer or glass of wine, but very infrequently, but alcohol is bad. Cut seems to love getting people to drink hard liquor. Why? I know it’s so much fun to get high from alcohol.
@@reshvndra I had breast cancer, 23 years ago. I’d been binge drinking every Friday night with friends. I know there are many causes of b.c., and I can’t say definitely that my drinking caused it, but it’s known that alcohol is implicated in having a cancer develop. I think I’m not at all overeacting.
@@dvdemt5678 Thank you. Religion is fine, except when it’s used as a rationale for controlling those who don’t ascribe to the rules and beliefs of its followers. Then the religion becomes a weapon against the unbelievers.
Feel sorry for that girl, you can tell she is super affected by her mothers behaviour.
Most humans shouldn't be parents.
Her mom seems like a hater. Lmao. Like her mom for sure knew that telling her dad would affect how he views her. And she gave no ducks.
Yes
@@SwiSherBabii My thoughts EXACTLY.
I don't believe she's even 21.
The amount of courage they had to stand up for themselves and be here in this video is nothing short of admirable
GAGAGAGAGA I just disliked my own face because I am unpretty. HOWEVER: I always like my GOOD videos however. No dislikes allowed where I come from. Don't be mean, dear rarwr
absolutely bruh I felt for them so much watching this like dam her dad..
I've met thousands who've done this lol
Banner under heaven
@@paulwaltersheherfeministvl521 Axxl I know that's u
u could see the shift in emotion when her mom texted her. i hope shes ok :(
Her mom is a big b!tch coward. I hope she's ok too.
when?
@@priimcry when her mom texted her
2:33
& I feel like she lied about where she was when she answered that’s why they bleeped it out bc she was def not on the phone lol
It's definitely tough to tell Mormon family that you're leaving the religion. It took me almost 10 years.
I feel for the girl tearing up on her story of disappointing her parents for losing her virginity and especially her dads reaction to it as well but also knowing it’s a natural part of life at that teen phase and at least she did not get pregnant or happened out of feeling pressured or out of her own will…
I feel bad for the father big time.....
@@SlickWorks I feel bad for you.
@@CJRamos-jv3pb i take it you dont have a daughter?
@@SlickWorks, nah, you just take it.
@@CJRamos-jv3pb lol wtf.
"It feels kind of culty" is the exact reason I left the church ten years ago (that and many, many others). Growing up Mormon is hard, and leaving is even harder. I hope these two find their chosen families outside of church and explore all that life has to offer, without the fear of judgment attached.
Mormon isn't real Christianity it is kind of like ad cult i recommend joining a actual christian church
It literally is a cult you mean
No chaser for a vodka shot and straight up killed that beer, my guy is up to something lmao
Absolutely menacing behavior 😭😭😭
lolololol
Religious trauma doesn’t mess around haha
lmaooo frrrr
he's gana be just fine 🙂
My heart aches for that girl. That said they are both so sweet and seem fun. Great picks!
EVIL for u guys to give them a vodka shot as their first sip of alcohol ever LMFAO
When i was like 12, i had vodka as my first drink lmao
@@grannyperson not a flex lmao
BeatboxingtoadofWARRRRRRRR and u deserve financial compensation for that😭😭
It could have been Screech!
no chaser too 💀
Ex-Mormon here. Starting out with hard liquor as your first alcoholic drink is SUCH a horrible idea. It's better to ease into it with beer, wine, or sweet cocktails. My first alcoholic drink was Shock Top, which was a perfect choice.
As a side note, alcoholism amongst Ex Mormons is unfortunately SUPER common. When we're prohibited from using something our whole lives, it's not surprising that we overcompensate later in life, and that can lead to addiction problems. Sex and porn addiction tends to be pretty common too, for the same reason. Just remember, use moderation and common sense when transitioning from high demand religion.
I guess some people need a stronger dosage while others a weaker one
honestly I think starting with a vodka shot is smart because it's abrasive and they're less likely to want to abuse alcohol than if their first experience was something pleasant like a pina colada
😂 coming from a Pentecostal family here my first drink was jack daniels 07 and I thought that it was the best shit until I started drinking crown and crown and the 8% harder mikes cans are my favorite things right now
This made me laugh so hard! I can't believe they were given straight vodka for their first drink and shot gunning a beer, WTF? These guys will never touch alcohol again! Why such crappy choices for their first time? They should have given them a rum & coke or a gin and tonic for their first drink, maybe a daquiri or something, but a shot of vodka? 🤣
@@arthurdentist6630 fuck that, they should've been given DMT hahahaha
I hope that girl is okay , she seems so sweet and I hope she gets to live her life the way she wants to live it.
I hope she does get to move out soon and see how beautiful life can be without the restraints her parents put on her. I also hope though, that their relationship doesn't become estranged when that happens.
kind of looks estranged already though, if she doesn't feel comfortable being herself :(
😂 Mormon is very strict. They aint missing much that coudnt possibly mess up their lives. So thats what some of these people are having, fun... Restraints from parents with a s on parents is needed. Again morman is different im sure. I hope they atleast still be responsible and have accountability through their actions.
Those parents deserve to lose everything by treating their child like shit.
@@stillthinking3740 its some auto correct and text in the response. Didn't proof read to see some words completely changed. Not sure why it did that. You a bright 1 i see 😂. Use better English... Hilarious
I could relate to her a lot. I grew up in the same religion. My Papa was a Bishop and was even in the stake Presidency. My dad was a second counselor. So very into the church. I have a horrible relationship with my parents and no longer believe in God due to the abuse and sexual assault I went through from people of power in the church. The church is so toxic. I could go on and on about how horribly they treat sexual assault victims, BIPOC, women, and the LGBTQ.
Couldn't have done like, a piña colada or a daiquiri to start them off with? What about wine or beer? You just straight-up fed these kids disinfectant as their first ever experience with alcohol.
Literally 😭😭
So was mine at 17 lol, it’s not pleasant for everyone
@@KJA70 Sure, but at 17 you're doing it with your friends and having fun being dumb teens, and you likely weren't raised being told that it's evil.
These poor kids are just alone in a room in front of a camera doing something that until recently they considered totally forbidden. They could have done with a bit of kindness from the producers. They're probably thinking "maybe mom had a point" now.
@@littlefurnace ain't that deep bro
@@kristijandimovski410 right? Haha
Utterly heartbreaking to see this young woman in so much pain. I hope she can get a job and her own place to stay ASAP, perhaps join a support group for fellow ex-Mormons.
Yeah she doesn't need any of that shame her mom and her religion has put on her. Run, girl 🌼💛
I’m an Ex-JW and there’s subreddits for both that are great support structures.
@@Ep1cTyl3r0n3 exjw too and the subreddits are amazing
@Lucianne Beans @Lexx - agreed, all the best to her - she seems like a great girl, just needs time, ppl that love, support her
It’s been about three years since I left the church, and it took me about that much time to feel emotionally stable again. I feel for her.
The girl is so innocent that it's actually cute. I hope things work out well for her cause you can tell she's dealing with a lot family wise.
A mother going through her daughter's trash? I can't even imagine. Give those two a hug!
Shouldve got them to talk to eachother obv. They have much in common and they would have a fun time aswell drinking for the first time with someone else doing the very same thing.
Seriously. Missed opportunity! It seems like it would have been a more inherently supportive and therapeutic experience for both of them, too.
Factsssss would have been so much more comforting as well
Tbh they probably filmed it on separate days
And that, kids, is how babies are made! Hahahaha!
Ex- Mormon here. It gets better. I can really say I don’t feel guilty about shit anymore.
It took a decade to recover but I completely agree. It was the best decision of my life to leave the church. Fuck that multi billion cult. I work by the Mormon temple and they had a conference for the youth. People were passing out waiting to get in. They didn’t even provide water.
Same here. I left the church few months ago, I really feel for her.
Same! So much (and by that I mean 100%) of the "forbidden stuff" is so so great and if anything has significantly enriched my life.
Same!
I agree !
I like how the guy didn’t get a chaser for his shot. Just straight Tito’s
for this girl to be crying for living her life is heartbreaking. they deserve much better.
That girl is the embodiment of many Mormon people, but unfortunately many of them just accept their fate and never question anything. It is a cult in every aspect of the word and I am so glad more people are starting to realize.
Exactly! I was a totally devout mormon until I started coming to terms with my sexuality because of a middle school crush in 6th grade. Jesus Christ, it's a cult. I'm glad that even though I'm not physically out, I don't believe their harmful bullshit anymore. Once I turn 18 I'm 100% out
I was twelve years old in 1980 growing up Mormon and realized that I liked what Ozzy Osbourne had to say more than Brigham Young. I started to ask questions about polygamy and why black people weren't allowed. Needless to say, I currently belong to no religion, I don't want to. Love is god and hate is fear.
Gets a buzz and says, "I feel like I could like hug everybody right now, definitely"
Same girl, same! Spread love.
And catch these: Bacterial Vaginosis (BV)
Chlamydia.
Gonorrhea.
Genital Herpes.
Hepatitis.
HIV/AIDS & STDs.
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID)
Dudes an absolute beast for shotgunning that that whole beer on his first time drinking lmaoooo
He was preparing for this moment his whole life 🤣
right he bodied that
@@mvtthew8394 yeah sure.... first time lol
That poor girl.. feeling awful like that. Can't imagine feeling trapped in a life like that.
How would you like one of these instead? Bacterial Vaginosis (BV)
Chlamydia.
Gonorrhea.
Genital Herpes.
Hepatitis.
HIV/AIDS & STDs.
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID)
@Miriam Svenson I don't assume anything she expressed her degenerate promiscuity, why I do assume is that filthy degenerate immoral liberals will applaud her sexual deviance.
@Miriam Svenson easily avoided? Maybe on planet silverMoon, or wherever wonderland, where condoms don't break, you're from. As for atheists being much more promiscuous than normal, religious people - that is simply statistically true. Stop making a fool of yourself and shush until you actually have a shadow of an argument.
@@truthdefenders- I would gladly take any of those over a repressed life of religious ignorance. It's not too late for you to realize that you're wasting your life away because of archaic nonsense.
@@CodGeronimo Cool, go for it, so which one of "those" did you pick and why, do tell.
I feel so bad for Lily, her mom sounds like an absolute terror. I hope that she’s safe and she heals and gets into a better situation. I’m glad that both of them have found a way out of an oppressive and upsetting faith.
As an ex-mormon myself, I understand exactly where she is coming from and what she is going through. The transition is not easy, but there is a reasonable, happy, free world out there when you get to the other side. I wish I could give her a hug, it is such a hard thing to go through. You can be a good person and be free of religion at the same time. At least for me, the morals that I live by didn't change much.
There are things we do that hurt others, and thing we do that don't. That's it, that's the only morality there is, everything else is a bunch of bs
No such thing as a good person
@@gbd-oq1rz Luckily, that isn't true.
Exactly! I’m an ex mormon too but both sets of grandparents are still heavily mormon. I wish we could befriend her so she knows she has people who understand 😢. It’s hurts because you can see how scared she is to speak her truth
I come from a similar background. I was 20 when i lost my virginity and my dad could barely speak to me for years. Both my parents response was deeply emotionally abusive and scarring. My dad thought I had lost my value as a human being because I wasnt a virgin anymore. My mom sat me down and called me a slut over and over in my face, even though I had been dating the guy for an entire year and was 20 years old not living at home..... Not only that but being indoctrinated by these beliefs gives you a complete loss of identity once you start doing things you were supposed to never ever do that 'define' your value as a person. Your identity is formed by all the things you dont do in those communities, but life happens and once you start entering adulthood its like you have no idea who you are anymore, because youve done the things you defined yourself as never had done. If that makes sense.
My heart goes out to that girl. I hope she reads this and knows shes not alone.
Such an insightful comment.
I'm so sorry you were raised but absolutely trash human beings.
I know exactly how you feel, thank you for writing this 🧚♀️
That's awful! I'm sorry that happened to you.
y’all couldn’t have given them a smirnoff ice to start off??😭😭 straight vodka right away is evil lmao
LMAOOO
the savagetry man
Gotta just rip off that band-aid!
Honestly, it's just titos it's not that bad. I got my first experiece with some fucking warm ass uv blue and smirnorff (not the ice one either)
Right? And the worst flavor of white claw 😩
The fact that her dad was distraught over her having had sex... that's fucked up. I hate that men can feel ownership over our body's, our decisions, to that extent. My dad is that same. It's just fucking gross honestly that a dad would want to keep this "pure" image of their daughter like he owns their fucking sexuality. Ewew
I just watched a movie called Pure which was really satisfying because it hits on this issue.
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@Kelly Q If it was true, the legislation would be like: adults are owned by other adults. But luckily each person owns just themselves. Kids belong to life, not to their parents. The whole father daughter purity thing is blatant sexism. Why don't we see mothers worry about their sons losing virginity? Patriarchy.
@Kelly Q homie, he owned the seed when it was in his minging nuts, not once i became an individual consciousness. that's not how it works.
@Kelly Q that's not how that works.
My dad mourned me like I had died when I started wearing pants. These parents out here need some serious therapy. 😅
this was edited so well lol with the choir sounds and such lol. also the set design is super nice. The way you have the chair sorta floating there is cool.
Ex-Mormon from Utah here. I feel for this girl. First few years after leaving the church are brutal. Eventually your family comes around and accepts you for who you are but if they don't, fuck em.
A piña colada, margarita and a beer would've been a more kind introduction to alcohol tbh
I had my first pina colada a few days ago and it was delicious!
LOL you guys gave them the worst drinks 😭😭😭
The only ok drink they got was beer and then they had to drink that in the WORST possible way, I felt so upset for them. I need a (nice) drink now.
I had to scroll so far for this comment! Like there are so many fun cocktails they could’ve tried, and they started with a shot of vodka?! Maybe they were trying to help them recreate the college experience?
The girl liked the Cosmo at first and then she didn't. I like a good Cosmo occasionally.
I better see them ripping the bong next week
"And for your first hit of weed, here's a dab rig."
I just want to give the young lady a hug! I understand her feelings of disappointing her dad.
I wish you had them play a game together to further speak on their first impression of the effects of alcohol
Being from Utah where literally 70% of the people here are Mormon.. I feel for you girl. Good for you for breaking out of a societal box and doing what feels right for you, not what feels right for your family or anyone else. You deserve the world!!🤍
So much respect to these two. Can’t imagine what it must be like to open up like this for a video. I hope they never regret trying new things, even if those things are mistakes! To live a perfect life in shame is no life at all
Some "mistakes lead to these: Bacterial Vaginosis (BV)
Chlamydia.
Gonorrhea.
Genital Herpes.
Hepatitis.
HIV/AIDS & STDs.
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID)
Really hope the girl can almost get away from her mother. She seems like such an unnecessary stress on her life.
Props to you guys , I love when people decide to be their own person and not listen to everyone else pounding down on them to be something they want. That’s not how life works and it shouldn’t be that way. Live your life how YOU want too. One love 🙏🏽❤️🙌🏽
Starting with a vodka shot is definitely a decision
I wish I could give them both a hug. I definitely understand how her mother’s behavior affects her
He killed that beer 😂
Something tells me that wasn't his first shotgun lol
im getting PTSD from my own past in hearing these kids' experiences with their religion. I'm glad they're on their way out and having awesome social experiences with caring loving people. Sometimes that's all we need.
5:42 That girl being like if that's the best you've got, maybe it is best to stay away from alcohol.
She is so sweet. Its horrible she has to go through that from her mom.
Seeing them shotgun a beer felt weirdly wholesome lol, I'm glad they got to have fun and openly talk about their experiences. So cute
Glad to see people opening up haha. I will say there is more to opening up than drinking but this is fun! Leaving religion helped me grow into a far more loving person today
Maybe because you were never interested in it in the first place.
Sure opening yourself to the gates of hell.
I want to hug both of these people. As a mom my heart hurts.
bro nailed his first ever shotgun with his first ever man beer lets goooooooo
i am not an ex mormon- i still go to church and believe in what is taught and will probably continue to stay in the church but i can definitely sympathize with both of them. i’ve had several friends leave the church and although i believe in it doesn’t mean that others will or i should force them to. i’m a big believer in the freedom to choose so i stand behind them. a family’s responsibility esp the parents is to love their kids even if they don’t believe the same things as you
I still go to church too, but now I am happier. I used to feel guilty about a lot of things and be hard on myself. I don’t care anymore. I just do what I think is right and try to be a good person in general. I am a firm believer in making your own choices. Pro-choice, pro gay marriage, pro whatever the hell you want to do as long as you not hurting yourself or others!! It’s funny how this girl’s mother is crazy and mad about her daughter making her own choices. Mormons believe in free agency. Her mother is being a hypocrite.
@@ApRiL3706 Sounds Christian to me.
is it just me or is the couch kinda trippy?
I would like to say this to both of them:
Be free, do what you want, it’s your turn to live the life you choose. And no one out there can hold you back but your self. Get out there and experience life, go fail, so you can be successful and be able to tell your kids/grandkids how many trial and errors it took u to be successful & one day you can inspire those that look up to you who ever they may be. Y’all are both young adults now y’all know right from wrong. I heavily support both of you, seek your happiness & you’ll find your purpose along the way. Just remember this lifetime isn’t free just short, one thing we’ll never get back is time so be sure to make the rest worth it.
i love them they're doing their own thing finally and finally going to make choices for themselves and what makes them happy
Oh this poor, sweet girl.. baby you’re perfect. Do not let her get you down, you very clearly made the right choice. Start introducing healthy boundaries. Watching you get anxious seeing a TEXT from her shows so much.:(
I LOVED this! The girl here seems so insightful and I love that she’s her own person and not afraid to be just that. I know first hand how much pressure the Mormon church puts on people and she is strong and brave to get out regardless of the stigma that will follow her from her Mormon peers.
These people need therapy in the nicest way humanly possible, sounds like theres alot of traumas etc
I had the same experience about 7 months ago. I was a muslim my whole life, never really believed in it but changing it never seemed possible. I was so scared of my family. I told my mom that I am not a muslim but ended up just saying that i won't wear the hijab anymore to my father. Both took the news really hard. My dad still doesn't know why. My mom told me if i do drugs, drinks or sex she would cut all relations with me. I neve lie normally. I hate it but I cannot say that I have a boyfriend and we do have sex, I drink sometimes too. I just wanted to say that, never do this to your kids. They'll do what they want anyway, at least know it. Be there for them because if you don't, you'll probably lose them. My mom always cries asking me why we never talk. Why we are so distant. Because she made me think that I cannot talk to her. And I don't.
That’s got to be really hard. You’ve very brave for stepping out and standing up for yourself.
I was also born and raised Muslim from both Arab and Muslim parents.. I stopped being Muslim a year ago and til this day they still don’t believe it. I hope you feel better and become closer to your parents.
honestly I’m surprised u were even able to tell her ur not Muslim anymore. I stopped believing 4 and 1/2 years ago, but I wouldn’t dare tell my mom, I know I’d be dead to her 😞
@@hafsahm4486 I thought the same way actually. My brother was the first one that I told because I felt like he didn't believe either. I was right, he stopped being a muslim 2 years ago and he told me "Mom knows and she took it suprisingly well. I think you should tell her too" And my mom is a really smart woman, she would never believe that i "just" wasn't going to wear the hijab anymore. As soon as I told her that I won't, she asked me "You don't believe in Allah anymore?" So I couldn't and didn't want to hide. I am really sad for you tho, it is so hard to lie to people you care about but you feel like and probably have to
I'm a Muslim as well. Islam is such a beautiful religion. It's a shame how some people who come from a strict, sheltered upbringing with parents and an environment where people are ignorant of the real prinicples of Islam and use fear to control others does to a person's psyche.
"this is the weirdest therapy session ever" Cut in a nutshell. Love it!!
I’m so happy for them. I hope she forgives herself and heals from the trauma her mom caused. They both deserved better
as a former catholic, this was so special for me to watch
But we drink alcohol
im catholic but my family is super chill. im sorry your experience was so negativ
@@carlwheezer2808 my grandpa always said he was a believer of the Catholic faith but he wasn’t Catholic bc catholics are die hard and can be hypocrites. We not Ángels, we all sin but we not here kicking puppies and spitting blasphemy. Ya knowz
I dont know any catholics who dont drink. We even serve wine at the church lol.
@@darreldennis7115 I was thinking the same
The first time I had alcohol, I was 7 and had it in church lol
I MISS FEAR PONG!!! bring it backkkkkk.😢
Wish it was longer.
Man I feel for the girl, she really bared her soul right there, I hope she finds the freedom she so desires
I'm always so happy for people who manage to leave any religion. It's a difficult journey but it's worth it to really live!
Yea it take a strong person to do what they did 🙌🏽...im happy for them
You end up in hell my guy. Good luck for your afterlife journey. If you decide to change, reply back to me
Rooting for you girl!! As an ex-mormon myself I know how hard it is to be a confident less active. Left when I was 18, went to Uni and found myself and Love myself, I am a much happier person, I have better relationships and I am actually excited about life, because at the end of the day Heavenly Father did not bless us with this world and the people around for us to not enjoy it.
You're doing great❤
At no point did I mention anything about alcohol in my comment. As an ex-mormon, I understand the traumas that come with that and they are very very real. It takes a hell of a lot to leave, especially if its all that you know and drinking is definitely not reason alone, everything else, however is.
I am just here trying to support this girl, because I understand. I also know that once you make this decision you are completely seperated and Isolated from your whole life ( family, friends) and so everyone making the decision deserves all the extra support they need.
Once left, a new journey starts where you have to find out who you are, understand what happiness really is and build a new and healthier relationship with yourself and your spirituality and that is what I am rooting for.
I felt so sorry for the girl, I hope she can move out fast and hopefully can enjoy here life and maybe get a more healthy relationship with here parents. And please give them more nice cocktails the next time xD
almost the story of my life, being all the time under this christians things you CAN'T do because someone that doesn't exists say
2:39 this hit hard. You really have to constantly paint a narrative for them. Anything outside of their wishes/expectations will insight so much backlash. I haven't spoken with my parents in almost a year and this is one of the reasons.
I know exactly what that girl is going though. Even though I'm a guy, my dad was very very controlling. The best thing I did was leave the house not to long after my grandma passed. She lived with us at the time, and I only stayed because I was forced to take care of her by myself during the day.
He handled that shotgun like he had some experience, you go kid!
I empathize with the girl, I hope she’s okay and can cope + eventually find healing. I can’t imagine how high of standards they expect her to meet, she seems like a sweet girl who just wants to be able to fully live life and be her true self without consequence. Sending so much love and light her way 🤍
Would that chair tip over if you sat on the left or right side by yourself?
The legs look wide enough to stop that from happening but I’m not 100% sure
I was thinking that lmao
Aww man, I grew up in religion that everything from what you eat to what you wear where attacked to laws! As I got older the moment I turned 18 I disobeyed a lot of the rules, so I get it!! Poor girl sounds like she has a terrible relationship with her mom and that’s just as unhealthy . I feel for her :(
The beer spat in his glasses’ lens 🤣
I hope that sweet girl is doing better. I dealt with similar stress from my father. I just wanna hug her 🥺
i love the irony that their sitting on a church bench
Giving a first time drinker a shot of vodka is INCREDIBLY irresponsible. Vodka shots should be avoided at all costs. Give them some good mixed drinks.
My first drink was a homemade hard cider I made from apple juice, champagne yeast, and sugar. I let it ferment in my dorm and when I tasted it I almost threw up. I poured the rest into the toilet.
I tried a few shots of bottom shelf vodka a day later and the first thing I thought was “Jesus this is so much better than my hard cider”
why? why is it irresponsible. They’re presumably not driving home. They’re probably going to be fine
One of the wildest experiences is when you're a kid and you go to your friends house... and their family does things totally differently. It expands your mind. I feel like they're experiencing this in a different way!
Interesting point! Also makes me realize that I was probably somewhat lacking in that during childhood. Makes me think!
The one guy doesn't even need chase. He's drank before.
I just want to give all these people a hug and let them know things are okay are their are people out there to support them.
“You don’t have to drink out all, you don’t have to drink it all!” 😂😂😂
Everything about this was great, except for the drink choices 😆. Here would be my suggestions:
1. Start with a good sweet cider, or a nice craft beer if they want to try it and like the flavor
2. Let them choose a really palatable, delicious fruity cocktail, based on their flavor - maybe a pina colada, a fuzzy navel, or a mojito
3. A nice glass of wine, red or white, based on their preference
4. END with a shot (not start 😆), if something with a nice flavor - maybe a really high end, smooth bourbon, or a tequila or mezcal
I also grew up in a strict independent Baptist church my whole youth. This really helps people like us that are struggling to transition to a normal life outside a cult. This was cute!
Depends on what you call normal.
@Miriam Svenson every religion aint no cult. 😂 just because more people are moving to be free spirited, open relationship, plus whatever. Dont mean its normal. Example: man and woman reproduce. Not man and man or woman and woman just example. Only 1 will make babies. You can choose to be nice about things 😂... The first comment called religions a cult basically... Alot of things are not normal today simple.
@@jumpstreet2425 sex is also for pleasure and not solely for reproduction. Any combination (man and man or woman and woman) produces pleasure for the consenting individuals. Also not everyone wants to have kids.
@@jumpstreet2425 cope
4:30 *hits blunt * Damn
They both seem super sweet. Love the girls style, suits her so well and omg her hair is so nice
She cried because she let down her father, not because her mom keeps violating her privacy ...
"That literally smells like rubbing alcohol." Yes, yes it does. Why the f do people drink it?
For the effect she had at the end of the video.
@@RandysRides lol if you can't open up and feel like hugging a bunch of nice people without drinking alcohol that sounds like a problem
@@pivoine3176 we can but it's easier to be open towards people with a bit of a buzz
Good vodka is not supposed to smell of anything. Also to get drunk obv
I’m a Ex-mormon grew up in a mix of Mormon and Shinto Buddhist environment. My family had always been quite lenient on tea and alcohol.
Glad my parents were pretty supportive when I told them I don’t feel like going to church anymore.
That guy seems like a cool dude to hang with.
My heart feels for that girl. My mom also went through my stuff. Trash, bedside tables, everything. She would take things she doesn't like away from me without telling me. She never respected my privacy and that lead me to rebel. I never felt respected. And I never learned to respect her either. I'm a lot happier without my family. I hope she can find that happiness too after she moves out.
could have at least put them together so they could commiserate lmao
As a mormon myself, this reminds me of the time I first tried coffee
Most do drink coffee nowadays, just not daily 😂.
I don’t drink coffee regularly, but there is this coffee cake at a local restaurant that I really, really love lol
GOTTA RESPECT HOW HOSS WENT FOR THE SHOTGUN AT THE END THERE
I just love the chair they are sitting on
My family is technically very "religious" in a way but still very open... my first drink was actually with my parents! I feel very blessed now
yoo fr you guys should have given them something nice and fruity for their first drinks lol
They both seem like strong, openminded & kind people. I truly hope that their family becomes less rigid and strict about their believes and won't shun them simply because they went in a different direction when it comes to faith or ideology.
I come from a strict protestant reformed background and left when I was 18... after a difficult 5-6 years my family slowly started to let me back into their lives a bit again. We're fine now (over 2 decades later).
Also, the churchbench was a nice touch :D
That girl need to be in more videos trying more stuff! the "Oh hell yeah lest do it" sounded like she is taking her life in her own hands her decisions her choices, I am so glad for her! 😍😍😁😁😁😁😁😁😘😘🥰🥰😘😘 You go Girl!
Any one got Lilys Socialmedias if she has any?
Im so glad i can share everything with my mom and not feel like she hates me or thinks less of me such a privilege
I’m an atheist so I wouldn’t discourage anyone from leaving their religion, especially fundamentalist religions (I’d also never presume to encourage anyone to leave). But what’s with encouraging people to drink? Alcohol is a carcinogen for many kinds of cancer. I used to drink moderately, and even now I’ll have a beer or glass of wine, but very infrequently, but alcohol is bad. Cut seems to love getting people to drink hard liquor. Why? I know it’s so much fun to get high from alcohol.
Overreacting 🙄
@@reshvndra I had breast cancer, 23 years ago. I’d been binge drinking every Friday night with friends. I know there are many causes of b.c., and I can’t say definitely that my drinking caused it, but it’s known that alcohol is implicated in having a cancer develop. I think I’m not at all overeacting.
@@Ceerads i understand your point of ciew
@@reshvndra Thank you. I’m sorry I played the cancer card, but my doing so comes from concern.
@@dvdemt5678 Thank you.
Religion is fine, except when it’s used as a rationale for controlling those who don’t ascribe to the rules and beliefs of its followers. Then the religion becomes a weapon against the unbelievers.
Bruh, if she’s never drank she’s finna be blitzed going home to her Mormon family, I’m a little scared for her
and then the cut editor kept in the part where she LIED to her mom about what she was doing. If her mom sees this vid its over for her LMAO