Think about it this way. With the pencil method you are twisting the line when putting it on, but when casting, you are on untwisting the line the same amount. Mr. Miyagi say ancient tradition; Twist On, Twist Off.
It's not that much of a problem if you're using mono or fluorocarbon. But when you're having to wind 300 yd of braid then the twist does become more noticeable. It's not that noticeable with mono or fluorocarbon.
I like to use a piece of wood dowel (about 12 inches long), that will fit through the spool hole. And then, slide the dowel ends through my tennis shoe laces. Then, as I reel line onto the reel, I can apply tension to the spool by moving my feet closer together. Works great. And, saves my toes! 🙂
Your presentation is the most analytical of all that I’ve seen for spooling a spinning reel. You clearly outlined the problems that cause line twists, and you presented the solution in a concise and interesting way. Learning how to do something through observation and critical thinking is far more beneficial than simply mimicking another’s approach. Well done. You’ve earned my subscription.
TH-cam search: line keeps twisting on spinning reel 1,000 different videos pop up and I'm like, who on Gods green earth is going to have the right information? So I choose your video as my 1st pick. I dont have to watch any other videos now as you have just told me how to solve this horrible issue. 👍, Great vid.
In 47 years I’ve never seen anything like this. I’ve not even known that amount of attention to detail on spoiling line and line twist. I’m educated!! Many thanks 🙏. Great demonstration. Thanks for taking the time out to pass the knowledge on to others 🇬🇧
After spooling the line, 2 added recommendations. If you own a power boat, run most of the newly spooled line into the water.Close the bail then let the line flow freely for a few seconds. Then lay the rod tip just above the water and reel in the line. There will be lots of drag on the line since the boat is moving. This gets the line back onto the reel much tighter than when it was newly spooled. The second recommendation is when using a spinning reel NEVER close the bail by turning the reel handle.Doing so puts a bit of twist into the line and over time can weaken the bail spring. Get in the habit of ALWAYS closing the bail with your hand.
Closing the bail with the handle adds exactly zero twist to the line. Your idea of letting the line out behind the boat eliminates the twist this useless device in theory is adding to the line… which is why it works. You do NOT want twist in your casted line.
I spool mine normally, then I tie a large swivel to the end of the line and give it to my son. I tell my son to walk out in the yard until my line is down to the knot, I yell to him to stop at which time I start reeling him in. I tell him to keep the line somewhat tensioned as he walks in, and as he does the line untwists as I reel and the swivel spins letting the line do so. It's a lot of steps but I feel it makes a difference.
Brilliant! I've done the same tying off to something with the swivel and walking towards it. This would be a great way to do it if you have kids or a really well trained dog! Unfortunately, I have me and an static object. Cheers from Montana!
Does stringing your line out with a ball bearing swivel attached to the end of the line and a fixed object, create enough tension for, say, 2 pound test to rid itself of line twist?
I've never had issues with line twists and I've been using spinning reels since I was a child. Most people that ik that have issues put to much line on.
I've never had issues either as long as you dont spool it to the max. Gotta leave a lip. I pinch the line by the first guide from the reel just to add a little tension then crank away and the spool bounces around on the ground until I get to a desired amount on.
Man, this was so informative. I have one of those devices, but I've been using it wrong. I had the nut too tight, so the flywheel wasn't spinning. Didn't realize it should, but now it makes sense. Thanks for the information.
Well done. A lot of thought, common sense and I'm sure trial and error went into your solution. Ordered my winder tonight. Thanks for the excellent video.
Why no backing. I always use enough backing so that I can put on a 150 yard spool of Power Pro (slick) instead of wasting a ton of braid if I use a 300 yard spool. If I ever catch something that takes 150 yards of line I'll be in trouble but i look forwad to the day. It requires two spools but i simply reel on 150 yards of braid onto a spool and top it with a slightly larger diameter of dacron. Reel that spool ontl your empty on and you have a perfectly filled reel. On some of my to many reels i just reverse the old braid and now the spool has the fresher end of the braid on the outside and the end that was being fished is buried. Easy way to stretch your dollars. If i cant land a 40 lb striper with 150 yards of line she's into the rocks anyway.
One option that worked for me all the time is that once the reel is full and if you have a boat or river close by, you let go all the line in the current and reel it back in. A small weight with a good swivel will help.
Marc Lapointe, I’ve been doing this for years while running slowly in the boat. If you don’t have a boat, tell the wife you need one to straighten your line out. She’ll understand. 😂
Finally someone applying science/logic/physics to a basic technique in an original way. I genuinely learned something and you have my forever subscription sir (tipping my hat). Bravo!
@@dtffishingmi When you cast, your line is going to want to remove any twists. So it is going to be in the same basic condition as it was on the feeder spool. If you held the line, and walked away from the feeder spool while you anchored the spool (pencil through the hole style) the line would be without twists. You aren’t going to put this thing on every time you cast. As soon as you do cast, anything this thing does, is eliminated anyway. Just reel in the line off the spool. If you THINK there are twists in the line, cast a larger sinker with a ball bearing swivel on your first cast. Boom! And twists you had an are gone. If you don’t need this reeling in line without twists, why do you need it to reel in line from a feeder spool?
@@johnarcher9480 only certain lures and techniques are going to allow the line to untwist after the cast, regardless of whether it wants to or not. It would also never be at the same ratio. I can assure you, my swim baits, in-line spinners and jigs (etc) do not spin around furiously on the retrieve. Your other method involves heading out to the ocean to drop a weight hundreds of feet down and waiting for an hour until all of the twists are removed. I suppose that would work if you can precisely determine the moment it becomes twist-free, but hardly seems as efficient as this method
@@dtffishingmi So….. when the line is in the air, it has no desire to untwist? When dealing in those swim baits, that loads the line back on the spool exactly how it would load up using the pencil in the spool method. You do t need to cast the entire spool… twists in the line that never come off the spool don’t affect the rest of the line. If you think you have twists, again, a sinker and a ball bearing swivel. Allows you to cast farther than your lures do, and the swivel allows any line twist that wasn’t eliminated during the cast to untwist as you reel in. Of course when you reel in, you won’t have this gadget twisting your line for you.
Wow! What a video. Yeah, I wouldn't go buy that contraption the spool on floor method works for me . IDEA: CUT OFF 100-150 yards of line then tie it on and spool through a phone book for tight spool or tention.
Great video. My friend's dad always spooled his line from a string secured to ceiling with a barrel swivel on it. Same principle but I never really understood why it was better. Now I know.
@@shudgins48 imagine the part of the contraption that spins, mounted to the ceiling instead of the handle part, and instead of a plastic frame, it's just a loop tied through the swivel and the center of the filler spool. (note that this would be tricky with any filler spool that has a rough lip or any slots for line storage like small spools tend to have. a wire coat hanger clipped in the middle of the flat part so you could mount the spool, and then just hung from a swivel would probably be easier to deal with.)
The first thing I do is put the refill spool in warm water and let it soak a while. The warm water removes the memory of the line on the spool.This works for mono and fluorocarbon lines,then I take a warm moist cloth to keep the line tight . Haven had a problem of line twist . I've been doing it for over 30 years and no problem..
The reviews on this gadget are awful. Everyone complaining that the spool will not stay seated and alot of people saying the line was twisted worse than normal ruining spools of line.
So after the line is initially loaded with the help of a line spooler, won't a spinning reel, on the first cast and retrieve, reintroduce twist to the line?
Your analysis of what causes line twist is nothing short of brilliant & and even more amazing is that you can describe it terms I can picture and understand. Good Job. Thanks!
My father tried to explain how the line gets twisted by winding up a power cord around his arm and by that action it would twist the cord. Excellent video that puts it in perspective.
Yeah. When a fish is taking line don’t reel. Let it run and pull back using the rod and reel down pull up and reel down for fighting fish. Never keep reeling when drag is going out on a spinning reel. Doesn’t matter on other style of reels but still don’t recommend reeling when the fish is pulling drag. Use the rod to turn the fish not the reel.
That's really awesome. Why didn't you demonstrate pulling line off of the reel to prove that it actually works, especially after taking almost ten minutes to explain the theory?
That’s a fair point. I could have shown the line on the reel, to confirm it was being put on without twist. I think it was important to thoroughly explain how a spinning reel works, once you understand that, everything else kind of falls into place. I couldn’t find a single other video on TH-cam which explains how these reels work, and how that relates to line twist.
More of a question: Mark Wiemels Potography? You apply the same logical analysis to fishing that you use in photography. Thanks for the video. Just ordered a line spooler.
LOL I have one of those spoolers and for the life of me I cannot get both the top (line) and the bottom (reel) to sync. Now and then they do and then the top will stop while I cranking away. I gave up golf to learn how to fish but I'm thinking what have I done. Any suggestions?
Great explanation of line twist. I bought the latest version of the Piscifun spooler and spooled two reels. On my first one I found the line did not spool on uniformly, i.e. there was more line at the bottom of the spool then at the top. I thought this must be a reel issue but never before experienced this issue with my Stradic. I stripped the spool and rewound with with a little less tension and I reeled more slowly. This time the line was perfectly level and appears to have no twist. However I encountered a significant problem with the next reel on which I spooled an 8lb copolymer. Apparently the line spool was spinning faster than the reel spool because it severely twisted the line, which I noticed as I neared completion. I had to release the line spool and let it hang to untwist the line; however the line is damaged. What would cause this to happen? You note that both spools should be spinning at the same rate.
Just a crazy thought, but after you spool your new line, couldn’t you just cast your line a few times with a weight and a swivel and it will right its self in terms of twist ??
Good Video, Amazing how even the smallest details can make the biggest difference when fishing. Line tangles have cost me heaps of time on the kayak lately so i might need to invest in one.
Also invest in a good braid. Try to stay away from power pro, it causes more headaches than its worth. I love verivas for casting my topwaters. And i use ygk for my jigging setups. They're a bit pricey but it makes fishing a spinning setup so much more enjoyable.
The only way is to take off the bale and put it on a cheep drill work's for me to put new on comes off and ond the same way for me 🤔💭 my dad told me how he does it in the 90' he used to make all kinds of gunk.
5 years later, not sure if you are still seeing comments on your video. One question that was still left outstanding... Why would it not be desirable to have twist on the spool, and have it cast out straight and untwisted?
Absolutely superb didactic video. Did you go to Toastmasters? Your delivery is seamless, your voice is pleasant and it was worth nine minutes of our time. Thanks again.
But then you cast, line goes out straight, then reel in and it makes new line twists. Every time you cast and reel, you add new twists. That’s why a newly filled spool doesn’t give wind knots, but after 1-2 hours of fishing we’re getting knots. So, what’s the point of spoiling perfectly a new line, if after an hour of fishing the results are the same?
I did know why the pencil (or in my case a screw driver in a vise) where the line is put on with a one per Rev twist but comes off flat is not preferable. If I get line twist from a spinning bait . I pay out the line behind a moving boat. Let it Un twist ... then reel up... Not twist outside the reel ... less knots & tangles
I had to watch almost 8 minutes before I found what I TH-cam searched for? Wow. I already own that specific line spooler. It doesn't hold the 1 pound spool that I bought.
Its really funny that you say that, because I think exactly the opposite is true: I don't care the line being flat on my reel. I want it untwisted when it comes OFF the reel. If it comes off the reel untwisted, you don't get wind knots, because its straight. This is really easy to see. Get a reel where twisted line comes off, pull of a bit of line, let it hang loose and almost as soon as the line touches itself it starts curling around itself and forming wind knots. Like you say, in some form because of the way a spinning reel works you will have twist. But you get to choose where the twist is, and this is the important choice. Also, people overfixate on spooling their reels. After a few casts or when you let out line during trolling and wind it back on, it changes its state on the reel anyway, and it wont get back onto the reel the way you spooled it onto there in the first place.
After I put my line on, I walk out in open (beach, meadow, cliffs), get my line out in the wind, and reel it in with rod tip up. Or you can drop line in the water to let it untwist.
Nice little TWIST towards the end of the video. That thing was the best $35 i ever spent. Works for ALL... spinning, baitcasting, and even inline reels for ice fishing.
Hi mate, great video which I've only just come across. Love your explanations. My only addition is that line tension plays a big part when spooling braid. Unlike mono, you really want to wind on the braid pretty tightly. This helps eliminate any line twist memory. Mono or fluoro are different of course as they also suffer from spool memory as well as line twist.
This makes so much sense! I never thought about the spools being different sizes but as soon as you started to explain that I realized why I always had line twist no matter how I spooled it. Gonna have my tackle shop do it from now on. Thanks for the info.
Thank you for posting this! My problem for years after trying many methods as well. Now I can sleep peacefully at night! Lol! No really, and second problem solved also. 241!!!
Clear explanation! I agree the BEST solution is having the tackle shop spool reels for me. And I often buy my line at the shop just for that reason. BUT sometimes the deal on line is so good, I buy it online. I have the device you show, and have found it works great. Sometimes it takes a while to get everything all squared up (without the line twisting on the arms, etc.), but once you're moving, it's great! Thanks for sharing your expertise! Roger, The Smiling BassHole
Excellent explanation! I have been using the spooler for years and it works great. My only complaint is the width of the arms does not accommodate some of the larger spools of line.
Use braided line; or, after spooling plastic onto your reel drop the loaded spool into a pot of hot water - let it cool - and the line will have the memory of your spool and will forget where it came from.
Yes that would work or get a deep pot full of warm water and drop new line in it so that it floats, keep it floating it water while reeling it on the reel. Apply pressure with a wet rag. I've never had any issues.
When I used to fish I made a spindle out of a small bolt about three inches long that would go through the spool after removing it from the reel . I'd put a bolt with a flat washer on it and put the line spool on a similar spindle with a lock nut being the only difference which I'd tighten as a tensioner . I'd put this assembly with the spool of line mounted and tensioned on it into a vise . The line I'd then tie on the spool with a Vic Dunaway ' uni knot ' . Then using the spool from the reel chucked in the electric drill I'd just load it using my free hand as the rail guide on a bait caster type reel . Never had a problem with twist .
Gabriel Duarte, yeah I agree that good braid makes it a non-issue. I mostly use braid, but for some applications mono is still better. Particularly trolling, and bait fishing situations.
The main problem with line twist comes down to the quality of swivel one uses. I use top shelf swivels and line twist is seldom a problem. A solid swivel will take care of the line twist from spooling the reel after a few casts.
I thought I was going crazy trying to get my line spooled without the twist that caused havoc. I tried all the techniques recommended by many sources. Great explanation and providing a "duh!" moment. Thanks!
Why not rig a device (for home use) that will hold the spinning reel spool like a casting reel and turn it so the line comes off the spool of line straight onto the spinning reel spool?
Berkley sells a portable line spooling station that does just that. Admittedly though I had a pretty steep learning curve on setting the thing up at first. Got it at BPS for about $30.
Another big issue is guys that want to "play or tire" the fish and back off on the drag. Each rotation of the bail imparts another twist to the the line.
My line spooler: a pencil and my two big toes. lol! ... Thx video!
Appleblade
I’ve been doing the same exact thing for 55 years !!!!
I’m 65 now...
My dad taught me ...
Think about it this way. With the pencil method you are twisting the line when putting it on, but when casting, you are on untwisting the line the same amount. Mr. Miyagi say ancient tradition; Twist On, Twist Off.
Me too 😀😀😗
It's not that much of a problem if you're using mono or fluorocarbon. But when you're having to wind 300 yd of braid then the twist does become more noticeable. It's not that noticeable with mono or fluorocarbon.
I like to use a piece of wood dowel (about 12 inches long), that will fit through the spool hole. And then, slide the dowel ends through my tennis shoe laces. Then, as I reel line onto the reel, I can apply tension to the spool by moving my feet closer together. Works great. And, saves my toes! 🙂
Your presentation is the most analytical of all that I’ve seen for spooling a spinning reel. You clearly outlined the problems that cause line twists, and you presented the solution in a concise and interesting way. Learning how to do something through observation and critical thinking is far more beneficial than simply mimicking another’s approach. Well done. You’ve earned my subscription.
Thanks bud. It’s really nice to get feedback like that, much appreciated!
TH-cam search: line keeps twisting on spinning reel
1,000 different videos pop up and I'm like, who on Gods green earth is going to have the right information? So I choose your video as my 1st pick. I dont have to watch any other videos now as you have just told me how to solve this horrible issue. 👍, Great vid.
Thanks! Don't worry, I watched them all, that's WHY I made the video!
In 47 years I’ve never seen anything like this. I’ve not even known that amount of attention to detail on spoiling line and line twist. I’m educated!! Many thanks 🙏. Great demonstration. Thanks for taking the time out to pass the knowledge on to others 🇬🇧
After spooling the line, 2 added recommendations. If you own a power boat, run most of the newly spooled line into the water.Close the bail then let the line flow freely for a few seconds. Then lay the rod tip just above the water and reel in the line. There will be lots of drag on the line since the boat is moving. This gets the line back onto the reel much tighter than when it was newly spooled. The second recommendation is when using a spinning reel NEVER close the bail by turning the reel handle.Doing so puts a bit of twist into the line and over time can weaken the bail spring. Get in the habit of ALWAYS closing the bail with your hand.
Thanks! Solid advice!
Rick Martin, I’ve used this method for years. It works very well. Thanks
Closing the bail with the handle adds exactly zero twist to the line.
Your idea of letting the line out behind the boat eliminates the twist this useless device in theory is adding to the line… which is why it works.
You do NOT want twist in your casted line.
thanks for the video, that was a great device.
Been using Mono for years. Switched over to braid, problem solved.
I'll tell you this... I'm going to try this gizmo!! They should pay you for your video, big time.
he invented it
Interesting I don't know I just hook the spool up to my Makita drill
I thought I was the only one who couldn’t get it right! Thank you, my good man, for sharing your findings.!
Great video again Mark, can you do a video on tips for creating time to go fishing 😂
Lol. Yes... that's why we all watch other people fish on here!
Great video . Thanks
So relatable rn lol
Lmao
I spool mine normally, then I tie a large swivel to the end of the line and give it to my son. I tell my son to walk out in the yard until my line is down to the knot, I yell to him to stop at which time I start reeling him in. I tell him to keep the line somewhat tensioned as he walks in, and as he does the line untwists as I reel and the swivel spins letting the line do so. It's a lot of steps but I feel it makes a difference.
That’s excellent!
Brilliant! I've done the same tying off to something with the swivel and walking towards it. This would be a great way to do it if you have kids or a really well trained dog! Unfortunately, I have me and an static object. Cheers from Montana!
Great and easy solution. Kids are all grown up. I’m sure my wife will be excited about helping. 😂🤣😂
I think this would work for non braid lines. Braid is too limp to spin the swivel to take it the twist.
Does stringing your line out with a ball bearing swivel attached to the end of the line and a fixed object, create enough tension for, say, 2 pound test to rid itself of line twist?
Every time Bass Pro Shops spools my line I get knots instantly. Its way worse than doing it myself.
Same. That’s what got me here.
I've never had issues with line twists and I've been using spinning reels since I was a child. Most people that ik that have issues put to much line on.
I've never had issues either as long as you dont spool it to the max. Gotta leave a lip. I pinch the line by the first guide from the reel just to add a little tension then crank away and the spool bounces around on the ground until I get to a desired amount on.
Hard to believe that someone has never had line twist. Especially fishing as a child.
Man, this was so informative. I have one of those devices, but I've been using it wrong. I had the nut too tight, so the flywheel wasn't spinning. Didn't realize it should, but now it makes sense. Thanks for the information.
Well done. A lot of thought, common sense and I'm sure trial and error went into your solution. Ordered my winder tonight. Thanks for the excellent video.
Why no backing. I always use enough backing so that I can put on a 150 yard spool of Power Pro (slick) instead of wasting a ton of braid if I use a 300 yard spool. If I ever catch something that takes 150 yards of line I'll be in trouble but i look forwad to the day. It requires two spools but i simply reel on 150 yards of braid onto a spool and top it with a slightly larger diameter of dacron. Reel that spool ontl your empty on and you have a perfectly filled reel. On some of my to many reels i just reverse the old braid and now the spool has the fresher end of the braid on the outside and the end that was being fished is buried. Easy way to stretch your dollars. If i cant land a 40 lb striper with 150 yards of line she's into the rocks anyway.
Nice Line spooler!! Like that it will take larger spools of line....Thanks for sharing....
Yeah, that spool was a big spool too... I was impressed that it could handle it.Thanks for watching.
One option that worked for me all the time is that once the reel is full and if you have a boat or river close by, you let go all the line in the current and reel it back in. A small weight with a good swivel will help.
Marc Lapointe, I’ve been doing this for years while running slowly in the boat. If you don’t have a boat, tell the wife you need one to straighten your line out. She’ll understand. 😂
Of course, that reverses the twist the useless device is putting on your line.
Just spool up by letting the feeder spool spin.
Just go to your local football field, have your significant other walk the line out with nothing on it a couple of times, bingo
D Ford Yep!!
ok, i have everything needed except the woman. where do i buy one?
Finally someone applying science/logic/physics to a basic technique in an original way. I genuinely learned something and you have my forever subscription sir (tipping my hat). Bravo!
Only this isn’t how it works….
@@johnarcher9480 Sure, go ahead and explain.
@@dtffishingmi
When you cast, your line is going to want to remove any twists. So it is going to be in the same basic condition as it was on the feeder spool.
If you held the line, and walked away from the feeder spool while you anchored the spool (pencil through the hole style) the line would be without twists.
You aren’t going to put this thing on every time you cast. As soon as you do cast, anything this thing does, is eliminated anyway.
Just reel in the line off the spool. If you THINK there are twists in the line, cast a larger sinker with a ball bearing swivel on your first cast.
Boom! And twists you had an are gone.
If you don’t need this reeling in line without twists, why do you need it to reel in line from a feeder spool?
@@johnarcher9480 only certain lures and techniques are going to allow the line to untwist after the cast, regardless of whether it wants to or not. It would also never be at the same ratio. I can assure you, my swim baits, in-line spinners and jigs (etc) do not spin around furiously on the retrieve. Your other method involves heading out to the ocean to drop a weight hundreds of feet down and waiting for an hour until all of the twists are removed. I suppose that would work if you can precisely determine the moment it becomes twist-free, but hardly seems as efficient as this method
@@dtffishingmi
So….. when the line is in the air, it has no desire to untwist?
When dealing in those swim baits, that loads the line back on the spool exactly how it would load up using the pencil in the spool method.
You do t need to cast the entire spool… twists in the line that never come off the spool don’t affect the rest of the line.
If you think you have twists, again, a sinker and a ball bearing swivel.
Allows you to cast farther than your lures do, and the swivel allows any line twist that wasn’t eliminated during the cast to untwist as you reel in.
Of course when you reel in, you won’t have this gadget twisting your line for you.
Thorough treatment of the whys and wherefores of spinning reel line twist--highly recommended!
Thanks Joe.
There should be a career dedicated to the science of " WTF does my SPINNING REEL keep tangling- *ology*
Lol
Wow! What a video. Yeah, I wouldn't go buy that contraption the spool on floor method works for me . IDEA: CUT OFF 100-150 yards of line then tie it on and spool through a phone book for tight spool or tention.
Great video. My friend's dad always spooled his line from a string
secured to ceiling with a barrel swivel on it. Same principle but I
never really understood why it was better. Now I know.
PostalBound how and why is it secured to the ceiling?? can u explain more how he did it because i dont want to spend $45 on this thing. thanks
Can you give more details on this method please?
@@shudgins48 imagine the part of the contraption that spins, mounted to the ceiling instead of the handle part, and instead of a plastic frame, it's just a loop tied through the swivel and the center of the filler spool. (note that this would be tricky with any filler spool that has a rough lip or any slots for line storage like small spools tend to have. a wire coat hanger clipped in the middle of the flat part so you could mount the spool, and then just hung from a swivel would probably be easier to deal with.)
Anybody who's ever pulled Romex wire should have a pretty good understanding of this concept
The first thing I do is put the refill spool in warm water and let it soak a while. The warm water removes the memory of the line on the spool.This works for mono and fluorocarbon lines,then I take a warm moist cloth to keep the line tight . Haven had a problem of line twist . I've been doing it for over 30 years and no problem..
The reviews on this gadget are awful. Everyone complaining that the spool will not stay seated and alot of people saying the line was twisted worse than normal ruining spools of line.
So after the line is initially loaded with the help of a line spooler, won't a spinning reel, on the first cast and retrieve, reintroduce twist to the line?
Watched your video over 4 years later and Wow! Makes so much sense. I ordered my spooler today . Thanks , no more twist i hope. Lol. Again TY
Your analysis of what causes line twist is nothing short of brilliant & and even more amazing is that you can describe it terms I can picture and understand. Good Job. Thanks!
Thanks so much!
My father tried to explain how the line gets twisted by winding up a power cord around his arm and by that action it would twist the cord. Excellent video that puts it in perspective.
Thanks, after years of agony and hundreds of dollars of wasted line, I clicked the link, and solved the problem for 40 bucks.
Hi, Great video. I have seen most line twist when the reel is still reeling when the fish is taking drag from the spool.
Yeah. When a fish is taking line don’t reel. Let it run and pull back using the rod and reel down pull up and reel down for fighting fish. Never keep reeling when drag is going out on a spinning reel. Doesn’t matter on other style of reels but still don’t recommend reeling when the fish is pulling drag. Use the rod to turn the fish not the reel.
Common mistake. Never reel when the fish is going.
That's really awesome. Why didn't you demonstrate pulling line off of the reel to prove that it actually works, especially after taking almost ten minutes to explain the theory?
That’s a fair point. I could have shown the line on the reel, to confirm it was being put on without twist.
I think it was important to thoroughly explain how a spinning reel works, once you understand that, everything else kind of falls into place. I couldn’t find a single other video on TH-cam which explains how these reels work, and how that relates to line twist.
More of a question: Mark Wiemels Potography? You apply the same logical analysis to fishing that you use in photography. Thanks for the video. Just ordered a line spooler.
LOL I have one of those spoolers and for the life of me I cannot get both the top (line) and the bottom (reel) to sync. Now and then they do and then the top will stop while I cranking away. I gave up golf to learn how to fish but I'm thinking what have I done. Any suggestions?
look at the LENS of the camera!!
NOT OVER THERE at the viewfinder!!!
Great explanation of line twist. I bought the latest version of the Piscifun spooler and spooled two reels. On my first one I found the line did not spool on uniformly, i.e. there was more line at the bottom of the spool then at the top. I thought this must be a reel issue but never before experienced this issue with my Stradic. I stripped the spool and rewound with with a little less tension and I reeled more slowly. This time the line was perfectly level and appears to have no twist. However I encountered a significant problem with the next reel on which I spooled an 8lb copolymer. Apparently the line spool was spinning faster than the reel spool because it severely twisted the line, which I noticed as I neared completion. I had to release the line spool and let it hang to untwist the line; however the line is damaged. What would cause this to happen? You note that both spools should be spinning at the same rate.
When your cranking the line from the spool of line onto your reel. Should I apply tension to the line coming off the spool?
I crank the arms, that hold the spool in place, down hard enough to give tension. This seems to give enough resistance to put the line on tight.
Some spools float I just throw them overboard and spool away, I like your rig better, in a pinch water works pretty well.
Just a crazy thought, but after you spool your new line, couldn’t you just cast your line a few times with a weight and a swivel and it will right its self in terms of twist ??
Great Info mate. May look into getting one.
Lawn Care Evolution. It’s really the only way you can do it yourself and have prefect line lay.
That was way groovy cool awsome gajet got to get one for my cat fish and crappie poles....
Good Video, Amazing how even the smallest details can make the biggest difference when fishing. Line tangles have cost me heaps of time on the kayak lately so i might need to invest in one.
fishingmad, Thanks! have just spooled a bunch of reels for my Canada trip. It was so easy, and the line lay is perfect. Very happy camper.
Also invest in a good braid. Try to stay away from power pro, it causes more headaches than its worth. I love verivas for casting my topwaters. And i use ygk for my jigging setups. They're a bit pricey but it makes fishing a spinning setup so much more enjoyable.
Will the device work for spincast also? Or just baitcasts? Great video btw 😎
The only way is to take off the bale and put it on a cheep drill work's for me to put new on comes off and ond the same way for me 🤔💭 my dad told me how he does it in the 90' he used to make all kinds of gunk.
Thank you very much Mark. You’ve taken the mystery out of line spooling. Explaining it perfectly.
No worries! Thanks for the positive feedback.
5 years later, not sure if you are still seeing comments on your video. One question that was still left outstanding...
Why would it not be desirable to have twist on the spool, and have it cast out straight and untwisted?
Couldn't you just spool it on what ever way then go out side and put a swivel on the end of the line and let the line out and reel it back in?
Got one off temu for $16, we'll see, cause the hot water sure didn't work !
Absolutely superb didactic video. Did you go to Toastmasters? Your delivery is seamless, your voice is pleasant and it was worth nine minutes of our time. Thanks again.
But then you cast, line goes out straight, then reel in and it makes new line twists. Every time you cast and reel, you add new twists. That’s why a newly filled spool doesn’t give wind knots, but after 1-2 hours of fishing we’re getting knots. So, what’s the point of spoiling perfectly a new line, if after an hour of fishing the results are the same?
I did know why the pencil (or in my case a screw driver in a vise) where the line is put on with a one per Rev twist but comes off flat is not preferable.
If I get line twist from a spinning bait . I pay out the line behind a moving boat. Let it Un twist ... then reel up...
Not twist outside the reel ... less knots & tangles
I had to watch almost 8 minutes before I found what I TH-cam searched for? Wow. I already own that specific line spooler. It doesn't hold the 1 pound spool that I bought.
Its really funny that you say that, because I think exactly the opposite is true: I don't care the line being flat on my reel. I want it untwisted when it comes OFF the reel. If it comes off the reel untwisted, you don't get wind knots, because its straight.
This is really easy to see. Get a reel where twisted line comes off, pull of a bit of line, let it hang loose and almost as soon as the line touches itself it starts curling around itself and forming wind knots.
Like you say, in some form because of the way a spinning reel works you will have twist. But you get to choose where the twist is, and this is the important choice.
Also, people overfixate on spooling their reels. After a few casts or when you let out line during trolling and wind it back on, it changes its state on the reel anyway, and it wont get back onto the reel the way you spooled it onto there in the first place.
Best way is after you spool up hot water under tap water and it remanages your line to the spool it won't jump off the reel spool then
After I put my line on, I walk out in open (beach, meadow, cliffs), get my line out in the wind, and reel it in with rod tip up. Or you can drop line in the water to let it untwist.
Interesting video and item. Might invest in one. Thanks for sharing. Regards Stephen (UK)
Nice little TWIST towards the end of the video. That thing was the best $35 i ever spent. Works for ALL... spinning, baitcasting, and even inline reels for ice fishing.
Take it to a bait shop with a machine. Usually free. Much more effective and way more line. No twist because it's put on like a baitcaster.
If you were going to buy only one rod and one reel and have and have as much diversity as possible what would it be?
That’s great but no line counter and you risk overfilling it and hence line memory imho
Me personally, I like to spin some line on a reel, not worry about twist and waste my time catching fish
I hear you. I too have use a pencil, books, the box the line came in with bad results
Try dropping your spool in water,the lake whatever... when you reel the spool will spin and everything good.... cool video....
...and then you cast out a Mepps and it's all twisted up again 😂
well thought out demostration,,ezy to understand and follow..thx.
I’ve been fishing for 175 years and I’ve never seen this before….lol
Hi mate, great video which I've only just come across. Love your explanations. My only addition is that line tension plays a big part when spooling braid. Unlike mono, you really want to wind on the braid pretty tightly. This helps eliminate any line twist memory. Mono or fluoro are different of course as they also suffer from spool memory as well as line twist.
I got news for you the best you can do is minimize it every time you cast out and reel it back and you’re causing more twist
What does this sentence mean? I've parse it carefully, but I don't understand what you mean. What did I miss?
To make this get a wire coat hanger, attach it to a rafter with a fishing line and swivel.
Thanks you just cost me $35! HaHaHa Great video.
I had just bought one of these a week ago. I still have to re-spool my reels
If you soak your spool of line in. Water for a week it will have no twists..
Just get some 8 strand braid and spool on however you wish... line twist was never a problem for me on reels of all sizes
Braid isn't for everything
This makes so much sense! I never thought about the spools being different sizes but as soon as you started to explain that I realized why I always had line twist no matter how I spooled it. Gonna have my tackle shop do it from now on. Thanks for the info.
DrFuNK, only took me 20 years to work it out!
Awesome video.. thanks for sharing
You’re wasting a lot of time but stick to your video title
I can't find d link for the line spooler, can u help me out plz?
Now I can stop putting my line on while in my gyro machine😵
Thank you for posting this! My problem for years after trying many methods as well. Now I can sleep peacefully at night! Lol! No really, and second problem solved also. 241!!!
Clear explanation!
I agree the BEST solution is having the tackle shop spool reels for me. And I often buy my line at the shop just for that reason.
BUT sometimes the deal on line is so good, I buy it online.
I have the device you show, and have found it works great. Sometimes it takes a while to get everything all squared up (without the line twisting on the arms, etc.), but once you're moving, it's great!
Thanks for sharing your expertise!
Roger, The Smiling BassHole
Good stuff, thanks. But, make and model, please?
You are a genius.👍
Every point make sense.
Excellent explanation! I have been using the spooler for years and it works great. My only complaint is the width of the arms does not accommodate some of the larger spools of line.
Use braided line; or, after spooling plastic onto your reel drop the loaded spool into a pot of hot water - let it cool - and the line will have the memory of your spool and will forget where it came from.
Yes that would work or get a deep pot full of warm water and drop new line in it so that it floats, keep it floating it water while reeling it on the reel. Apply pressure with a wet rag. I've never had any issues.
I feel like you're confusing memory with twist lol
Good point!
No, it's braid (at least I think) so there is no line memory. Now if it was mono, than yes.
Ok, at the end it was mono.
wow, thanks for the explanation... reel spool going in my lathe shortly :)
When I used to fish I made a spindle out of a small bolt about three inches long that would go through the spool after removing it from the reel . I'd put a bolt with a flat washer on it and put the line spool on a similar spindle with a lock nut being the only difference which I'd tighten as a tensioner . I'd put this assembly with the spool of line mounted and tensioned on it into a vise . The line I'd then tie on the spool with a Vic Dunaway ' uni knot ' . Then using the spool from the reel chucked in the electric drill I'd just load it using my free hand as the rail guide on a bait caster type reel . Never had a problem with twist .
just use braid and be done with it.. to me, line twist is only an issue when fishing mono or fluoro.. braid absorbs most if not all the line twist
Gabriel Duarte, yeah I agree that good braid makes it a non-issue. I mostly use braid, but for some applications mono is still better. Particularly trolling, and bait fishing situations.
The main problem with line twist comes down to the quality of swivel one uses. I use top shelf swivels and line twist is seldom a problem. A solid swivel will take care of the line twist from spooling the reel after a few casts.
Where do I order from? What the name of this device?
I thought I was going crazy trying to get my line spooled without the twist that caused havoc. I tried all the techniques recommended by many sources. Great explanation and providing a "duh!" moment. Thanks!
Use a quality swivel above the lure a few feet.
Why not rig a device (for home use) that will hold the spinning reel spool like a casting reel and turn it so the line comes off the spool of line straight onto the spinning reel spool?
Berkley sells a portable line spooling station that does just that. Admittedly though I had a pretty steep learning curve on setting the thing up at first. Got it at BPS for about $30.
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Another big issue is guys that want to "play or tire" the fish and back off on the drag. Each rotation of the bail imparts another
twist to the the line.
And what about the fish. He doesn't care about your line. I think they porpoisely swim around in circles to mess with your head.
Seems like a pretty cool product! Nice work.
25 years of doing it wrong... never knew such a thing existed.
Won't the line twist anyway after you cast and retrieve?
Dude. Brilliant. I was going NUTS!
Another Amazon purchase for me.