Anyone remember what Chingy said about Ali on the Beef DVD.."Ali want to be where Nelly at, but he can't cus he sucks"... Funny how things came to light.
The underlying issue is “Am I my brothers keeper” However, Ali suffers from a case of Kane and Abel syndrome. Ali, thought he would go further then he did and unfortunately he was just standing next to the chosen one. 🥴
Ali don’t like Luda bc he got bars, is famous and one hell of a business. Luda and Nelly are everything Ali isn’t mostly due to his own fears, ego, emotions, laziness and worrying about the next man too much
Ali is the type that never worked hard to get anything in my opinion. It seems like he's the type that bandwagons off the next man or rides the next man's coattail to get somewhere. Just like Nelly said he wasn't a part of the group until Jive came in town and was about to sign them and he hurried up and joined the group and then he hurried up and try to take control everything. Nellie and them did all the ground work all the talent shows all the mixtapes trying to get a buzz and at the last minute Ali wants to join the group once he sees them about to get signed. And then once Nellie blows all he just wants to sit around collecting checks from Nelly and basically for doing nothing. Nobody needed Ali's input or needed a few of his bars or he needed his hooks now they could have got that from anybody at that point
That was not how that was explained by Nelly. Nelly's version for the group was much more believeable. But he didn't really get into the details of the slow payments and the screwing him out of the 5%. But Nelly did more for the group than the group ever did or could for Nelly. That is not even debateable.
that 5% didnt even matter, especially since people getting free studio time, free food, free flights, and paid out of nelly's pocket lol thats the 5% fuck outta here.
That 5% was probably some back door shady shit that Nelly didn’t want no parts of. And why do the job if you ain’t gettin paid for it? Sounds like Ali obligated himself to something and then couldn’t get out of it, just like he suggests new artists should do SMH
I think Nelly explained. They didn’t own none of their publishing and till now they still don’t for sure so they are not putting their names on the contributions they put in and just expected Nelly to give them from his pocket which he did But for how long though 😂😂 for 20yrs
@ alonzo Jordan 🤣🤣🤣 he want more money than Nelly's had been given him for years. Some people don't understand, friendship is not a responsibility. I just leave it at that.
@@gallusuniverse805 But when you throw money in the mix you become my constant giving friend even when i piss it away and no matter how many years go by. This is why celebrities rather keep rich friends and leave the old broke friends in the past.
I only been watching this interview for 2 minutes and I can comfortably confirm Nelly was telling the truth and this dude Ali is perpetrating out this world!!!!!🤣😂🤣😂
Proud to hear our elders. Where on Post in doing duties Beyond being an elder. Remember Bill Cosby. Don't be so brainwashed people. Remember all he did even from the 60s. He's not with the media machine promotes!
Should Nelly had him as the president of dirty entertainment at one point in time but he fumbled the ball. Nelly was expecting him to sign new artist will bring a new talent in and all he want to do is try to make his own CDs thinking he was still going to blow. But Nelly pretty much said at that point in time he already knew the the ship had passed Ali by by that time nobody was feeling Ali nobody was looking for Ali cd. At that point in time Ali needed to accept the fact that he wasn't a popular superstar and he didn't have that type of character to be a star and he should have just started finding new talent instead of trying to be a star and putting out his garbage CDs. Had all he did that he probably still being a good position right now he's probably still be the president of dirty entertainment and we probably have a few new artists out under Nelly's dirty entertainment umbrella
From what I gathered from this interview, Ali had the mindset of (it doesn’t matter what the contract say, it doesn’t matter how much you make up front, the only thing that’s important is getting famous and then everything else will work it’s self out) Nelly had the mindset of making sure the contract and business was properly taken care of and if it wasn’t for Nelly bringing them along after he blew up, they would probably still be in St. Louis as local talent Also Ali has the type of mindset where he feels entitled since Nelly is successful and thinks nelly is obligated to take care of him and look out for him as much as possible. The thing is, Nelly put you in position over 20 years ago, it’s your fault that you didn’t manifest tangibles. Ali cared more about fame than he cared about gaining fortune, 20 years later, he’s somewhat famous and probably financially unstable
Dam very true. But if the goal is to keep the machine running and Ali helped in multiple ways, then it would make him eligible for payment. But if nelly cut him out of deals he should have left then you r started his own business while still working with nelly 🤷🏽♂️
Ali cared about himself. Seeing that, he was on his own, and couldn’t handle the weight. Tons of horrible decisions. He’s where he’s at because of HIM.
Bruh the 10% percent was about Nelly wanting to have one if hes 3 wishes used on now else will have any wishes 🤣🤣🤣 . C'mon man so why would he give u more money at times when he didnt have to. At some point Ali should have been more business savvy and also more creative to make a money move instead of trying to ride Nelly's brand that hes publishing team already had through Nelly.
REAL TALK WE FROM THE CITY BORN AND RAISED IN THA LOU.... I KKOW ALL OF THEM PERSONALLY... LEEZY ALWAYS WANTED 2 be THE LEAD... ALI CANNT RAP PERIOD NELLY HAD THA LOOK AND SOUND... HISTORY....
@@vonb8028 Alis flow was crazy everyone just biased toward Nelly during this beef right now .. they all could rap kyjuan was the least important tho his flow was cool but always lazy and he never dropped a solo project cause it would’ve sold worse than Ali’s
Ali sounds like he in his feelings cus Nelly don’t need him, he needs Nelly. And he just rambling talking about nothing half the interview. This could have been a 30 min interview 😂
You stupid for missing the point. Nelly cut him out of an opportunity that could have empowered him where he could have ate without Nelly but needed him to get in the door. Nelly wanted to control the narrative so that would remain needing him, that is the conflict. It just took him 30 minutes to get to the point but it took you less time to write this dumb ass comment.
@@waltertroxler1601 lol you one of them people who love conflict you . You can't have alot in life to write that statement. you should get help nobody owe no one nothing in life we only live one time what happened to him is what he let happen he was a grown men
I agree with his statement about Bill Cosby. As a young teenager, watching The Cosby Show and a Different World made me want to attend college. I only wanted to go because I could leave my parent's house and be on my own and make my own decisions while trying to figure out the path I wanted to take in life.
Simply put: if Nelly bought the lake so that he can control the distribution of the fish that the St. Lunatics eat; you have to take your fishing pole to another lake if you disagree with how fishing on that lake is governed.
Ali lame for being jealous and feel another man owe him cause he failed . Why nobody else acting like this ? Murphy already spoke his peace and basically said the samething nelly said
@@ellsworthconstructionllc "We was broke with no deal but nobody could tell/so we did what had to for "Country Grammar" would sell". Murphy Lee What Da Hook Gon Be
This interview gave me a migraine. Ali talking in circles. B high and Wicked probably thinking "I wish he just answer the question(s) we ask instead of going around the barn with these answers..."
Lol... what is Ali trying to say here. I keep scratching my head. I like dude what is the issues. After listening to Nelly he never tried to do anyone dirty in this business. Nelly just kept going and networking until he hit the motherlode..Ali might have done somethings but he wasn't working it as hard as Nelly.
The highlight of Ali’s career is when Nelly featured him on “Grillz” and the nigga rapped one of the whackest lines in recorded hip hop history “got a Bill in my mouth like I’m Hillary Rodham” but it’s Nelly fault his career bricked? FOH !
😂😂 his verse was garbage but the whackest ever 😂😂 damn.......but naw he wasnt dead weight just wasnt marketed correctly the type of artist he is isnt like a Murphy Lee or Nelly but Nelly was/is the biggest out of the Tics naturally is a star and the most marketable Murph being second but Kyjuan and City Spud are more dead weight
For those who don’t want to watch the whole interview and want to cut to the chase Ali agrees with pretty much everything nelly said in the interview, he just doesn’t like the fact that Nelly made him seem like a worthless bum and a idiot Who doesn’t know business. also he feels like nelly should do more for him and he has a sense of entitlement.
Nelly should have put his homies in position. He wouldnylt have to carry them on his back if they able to fish for themselves. Kyjuan and Murphy suing him. That's why there no 20th anniversary tour.
@@maseratiskrill You absolutely correct,, but sometimes even showing them how to fish doesn't mean they will master the skillset King. Just a fact. He had some valid points "morally" but at the end of the day it's STILL business.
@@foondesignsceo73 you right bro, and business ain't friendly. That where alot go wrong, including me. I learned you not owed anything really, it's up to you to negotiate and cut the best deal for yo self. On that note, just think if the right brothaz, was in position, St. Louis would be waaaay bigger with pipelines of talent
Nelly put his whole crew in position to win. What are y'all talking about? He wasn't obligated to take them on tour or make music with them for all the years he did. He got his whole team a bag and they fumbled it. It's not Nelly responsibility to take care of grown men. It's been 20 years since they got their deals. How long does Nelly need to stand next to them to make what they do pop off? Murphy Lee was a platinum artist off his solo album too outside of the Lunatics and even won a grammy.
All the greats got rape by contract in the beginning yet?! they figure it out and most had long careers some didn't but going on a interview tour not it.
Damn bro. I feel for Ali but at the same time, he too grown and knowledgeable to keep putting himself in this position. Can’t blame Nelly for everything.
dude sounds like he want access to his rich friend and he don’t speak up when wronged just to be in his good graces to get loans when things are tight. better believe if he gets in ANY jam. he call nelly for bread.
My nigga said I put something together that went diamond out the gate..... Nigga...... NELLY went diamond, not the Lunatics. You can't take credit for another nigga bag...
@@freestateofgrizzy1937 ehhh... Nelly said that could have BEEN ON country grammar, but decided to stay on the sideline. That was the lead single, but the project as a whole was done by Nelly (per his words) And idk who lying... but Nelly is a better communicator, so it's easier to believe someone with a str8 fwd thought process. Ali rambling and mumbling thru most of this shit.
@@FnIggnent I mean yes Nelly did majority of the leg work but the lunatics still helped with the album I say this because Im from St Louis and as a kid I saw these guys first hand grind in the mid and late 90s and blow up I mean I dont know them personally but I know people who know them
The fact remains is this, with MOST groups the star normally out works EVERYONE else. Just a fact! And that turns to resentment at some point when others get lazy and no longer an asset to the group as a whole. Friends or not, that will start to break things up cause people do change. I seen Nelly interview and his story seems more believable because I've been in this kind of thing more than once. Loyalty isn't ALWAYS appreciated. #RememberThat
@@foondesignsceo73 You're right. But then “family” and my “brother” should never be thrown around when it comes to business. What history has shown us is that groups who members claimed that they were family broke up over money issues. So what that tells me is that you were never family to begin with or you value fortune and fame over family.
That Management deal story back fires on Ali. Someone came to you that wants to work with Nelly on a management deal. They Cut you in on a pre deal. Nelly takes a different deal that does not include you. At a time you guys are not even speaking to each other, yet you expect him to just give you free money out of the deal. Nelly explained this in his interview. Its a 100,000 deal for Nelly. IN order for you to make 5% that has to come out of Nelly's Money. Why would you expect him to pay himself less so that someone that he does not even speak to gets money? Yet you keep saying your a Man.
What people don't know, and haven't figured out is....You attract your blessings in life by being a blessing to other people....thats how you keep the harmony in your life.
Exactly what this is🤏🏾 they're bags are low on funds damn near gone and they need something to hang on to and they using Nelly name to keep the shit going they need his name to get funds 💯💯
This is a situation where a person has outgrown the rest of the group and the group is still stuck on day one. Everyone can learn about true cohesiveness from New Edition. They go through, but the love and the hustle is still there.
Luda and Nelly came in the Game around the Same Exact Time, I remember I was in high school, Nelly had his hit Country Grammer( the song). And Luda had his hit Whats your Fantasy
they were in the game before that.. those were just the first hits they finally got that blew them up.. all those years before.. "gimmie what ya got" , "fat rabbit".. country grammar wasn't even called that until right up before it or right after (cant remember.. im a real old dude compared to most in here prolly) it popped..just a fyi fa yall 1luv
Nelly is a business man and they are employees, the mindset is diff and they didn’t want to change or take the risk. When they got the guaranteed opportunity to do their own deal/solo project didn’t go. 20 years later still eating off just Nelly alone, no other income streams!
Ali is stuck between nostalgia, regret and being mad at himself. Nelly probably stoped taking care of him. I honestly cant figure out what Ali is pissed about or understand what he is trying to explain
He tryna get people to see Nelly a ''Bad Person'' but in reality he stayed loyal to the ''Bad Person'' for 20+ years so it's regret mixed with reality and he just needs someone to let it out to because everyone who was around them that knows the truth not gonna side with Ali because they ALL used each other... It's called Family/Friendship
@@eazedrop8140 i watched the end and he finaly came out and said Nelly stoped him from getting money on a management deal. Nelly probably knew better than letting him in on a deal with him
When he said “sign this contract, it doesn’t matter what it says”, he lost me there! People constantly try to get these young cats sign contracts & not know what they are signing, it never ends well! People need to tell these young cats don’t sign anything that you don’t understand!
Late reply but a reply non the less. Had they not signed the contract would there be a Nelly and the tics today? What he said actually made sense “if we sign we get free studio time to work on the music we need. If we don’t sign the contract we won’t be able to record the music and we have to pay for it and we’re barley making it”. Yes it was messed up, but signing that deal is the reason there is a Nelly and S. lunatics today
@@VernB314 u smoking p2 young bull 100% publishing is everything you work for stay in school if ur old it's never to late Ali is where hes at in life for a reason its only 1% rich ppl in this world ill let that sink in ur peanut brain
That's true and then also I realize that nelly had the total package as a star and he was more advanced than the other members in the st lunatics earlier on in their career but ali is more on the business side than being an artist and he did a lot of things with universal records that people didn't know about like for example he tried to get huey signed R.I.P. when he came out when he first started jumping off but the label denied him then he tried to sign chingy which didn't work also but luckily he sold 3 million records with DTP under ludacris record label which started the beef between nelly and chingy then fast forward he went after J-kwon and tried to put him on universal but they also didn't want him and then jermaine dupri snatched him up and the next thing you know he's with so so def so basically after those opportunities fell through he had no choice but to focus on the lunatics and ride with nelly but to be real about Ali's situation you can't carry a grown ass man forever and blame another man for your problems.
At this point i dont know who to believe both these cats good talkers i honestly cant tell who's lying 😐. I was hard on Ali in the comments after watching Nelly tell his side but after listening to Ali dude sound like a solid cat so im done commenting on the situation.
Ali seems to have a big heart but his business mind is flawed. He emotional about the wrong things and the mindset of “get hot and worry about that later” is why this is happening. Reminds me of the Cam and Jim situation when they beefed except Jim was a hustler and made it shake on His own
I remember I’m the BEEF 3 documentary Nelly was clowning Chingy “Ain’t nobody bought a ticket to see Chingy” and current day “Ain’t nobody bought a ticket to see Ali” 😂😂😂
If you get addicted to watching old stories your probably not focused on making new news for yourself . I know i have caught myself doing the same thing
Nelly said it best he is a star.. I don't know why this is relevant anymore. Oftentimes people stay stuck in the past wondering about so many things that went right and what went wrong. Nelly interview was enlightening and ringing with truth. All I will say be happy and keep it moving forward. Ali want to state his truth on whatever the issues are from their past. God has blessed each and everyone of them. Money shouldn't change people but it does and that is the reason why people are always on the defensive about what is their truth...Business and friendship can cause friction especially when their are two chiefs and neither one can respect the other decisions.
He's had this on his head and heart for a while, and it's a lot all trying to come out at one time. Plus, the alcohol doesn't help to string it together...truthful though. Good interview.
Nelly doing shows where they want only nelly. He was the only one on the contract. He was paying out of his own money. Like he said if they could do better they would
Ali need to let this go. They all agreed that Nelly was the star and decided to ride his coattails. How long does this nigga think he was supposed to ride Nelly's coattails?
He made them and as far as riding coattails Nelly was the breakout star. Ali discovered the group he taught them their whole gimmick but Nelly didn't reciprocate the love. He thought their love was on the same level. "We all we got" listen to that phrase. Nelly kept backdooring, hmmm shadow banning or black listing his shine.
@@jessicajohnson4200 That's what Ali is saying. I think that Ali got lazy and didn't hustle hard enough when the opportunities presented themselves. It's easy to say that Nelly blackballed him but history showed us that Nelly put him in position to make his own moves. He's mad that he isn't as successful as Nelly, point blank.
" You made Hov, ok make another one" ... It's obvious Nelly had the Star Quality and Talent. Sometimes it' not just your Talent, its the Total Package. They all had Solo Deals, none really hit besides Murphy Lee.Even B-Hi and Wicked looking with the side eye.
@@showmestatefinest5412 Moving to Atlanta at 9 years old aint no where near "damn near grown"😒..And he wasnt on the Welcome To Atlanta (Remix) and repped ATL his whole damn career for nothing. Yeah, YOU my night think he's from the Atlanta but I guarantee you Atlanta claims him like a mf
Ali emotionally hurt more than anything over Nelly.... he's really on the fence even wanting to diss Nelly because he know in his heart they both did wrong and he's going to need Nelly 💯
@@greddmyles3677 exactly. He been saying little slick shit about Nelly FOR MONTHS! Then deleting the shit off IG. At some point enough is enough so Nelly spoke on it- and moved on.
Day 1: my brother ( silent until the grave) Day2: we live we love we fight we argue and we see shit Day 3: things didn't work out as we planned and I'm mad about it all (stfu and refer back to day one) I could hate your guts today but I signed that verbal contract during peacetime. Doesn't change the terms of the contract. I don't respect Brothers talkin out loud today tomorrow or 10 years from now
I listened to this whole interview.. What the hell is Ali even talking about.. He just rambling on and on about some bullshit.. Nelly told it from beginning to end very clearly.. Nelly makes sense.. Ali just makes a mess..
What I got from both interviews is the way Nelly does business is direct; you want me and I will only sign with you if you give me x,y, and z. Ali's business style is indirect. I'll get in anyway I can. I'll let you take my first born and when I'm good, I'll go back and get him. He always has to go back and fix things, but the problem is he's assuming the opportunity to fix things will always be there. As he said Nelly bought their publishing back, not him. Nelly got the group a record deal, not him. He doesn't have leadership qualities, so Nelly treats him like someone hired to do a gig. If I was Nelly, I wouldn't trust him to be the plug between me and my management either. His wife sounds more like a go getter, and I caught that he said he's divorced. I wonder if she got tired? Ali just wants a steady paycheck, and a corner office, so he needs to go get that.
Yeah the way I see Ali and get from him is he's the type that just leaches off of the people he doesn't do any of the groundwork he waits for someone else to get near the finish line and then hurries up and tries to trade places with them and then finishes the race at the last minute. He wanted to be a liaison between Nelly and management like who even needs that? It's like he wants to job or wants a percentage to do stuff that is irrelevant
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Nelly story from A to Z was waaaaaay more clearer and he was interrupted🤦🏽♂️
Ali talking in circles.... in my opinion 🤷🏾♂️
How he talking in circles?? You Gotta explain in order to take sides 🤷🏾♂️
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Facts!
You got any examples?
Even on ali insta live he was talking in circles, making no sense.
Anyone remember what Chingy said about Ali on the Beef DVD.."Ali want to be where Nelly at, but he can't cus he sucks"... Funny how things came to light.
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I remember that now that you saying it
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@@damian999x7 chingy wasnt cappin
Damn that's a good point. I forgot about that.
The underlying issue is “Am I my brothers keeper” However, Ali suffers from a case of Kane and Abel syndrome. Ali, thought he would go further then he did and unfortunately he was just standing next to the chosen one. 🥴
And he didn’t even make it far in the game 🤷🏾♂️
FACTX
Wrong. Ali a cancer. We dont care about fame and shit like that.
Nelly interview was very entertaining aside from the horrible host who kept interrupting him.
That host is trash
Facts
He needs to be FIRED
They other people hosting the show were even getting frustrated with him, the chick had to keep telling him to let Nelly finish his story
That shit was terrible
Ali don’t like Luda bc he got bars, is famous and one hell of a business. Luda and Nelly are everything Ali isn’t mostly due to his own fears, ego, emotions, laziness and worrying about the next man too much
Ali is the type that never worked hard to get anything in my opinion. It seems like he's the type that bandwagons off the next man or rides the next man's coattail to get somewhere. Just like Nelly said he wasn't a part of the group until Jive came in town and was about to sign them and he hurried up and joined the group and then he hurried up and try to take control everything. Nellie and them did all the ground work all the talent shows all the mixtapes trying to get a buzz and at the last minute Ali wants to join the group once he sees them about to get signed. And then once Nellie blows all he just wants to sit around collecting checks from Nelly and basically for doing nothing. Nobody needed Ali's input or needed a few of his bars or he needed his hooks now they could have got that from anybody at that point
This is what jealousy and envy looks like. Nelly explained the story from A to Z and his story sounded 💯 factual
You don’t know either
@@darrbank5463 I know Nelly name still alive and doing shows and Ali not so there’s that
@@richardlewis8565damn homegirl 😂😂😂
Ali wrote all his shit and when he stopped Nelly ain’t had a hook or bar since and that’s what sound 💯 factual 😂
Nelly wrote all his rhymes
Ali's biggest interview ever....STILL THANKS TO NELLY 🤦
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Ain't it mane 😂😂😂😂
Ok...I'm about 23 minutes in and I realized something...I'm just not that interested.
Im at 6.44 an i know thus.
Lol 😂. Facts
29 mins for me dog....I can’t take it, I’m bout to boun....💨
Yea the history was interesting and how they learned to break down bars but he’s still stuck in “Air Force ones” time.
I felt that after reading this specific comment i guess im good on the vid
That was not how that was explained by Nelly. Nelly's version for the group was much more believeable. But he didn't really get into the details of the slow payments and the screwing him out of the 5%. But Nelly did more for the group than the group ever did or could for Nelly. That is not even debateable.
that 5% didnt even matter, especially since people getting free studio time, free food, free flights, and paid out of nelly's pocket lol thats the 5% fuck outta here.
@@shmokey59 also they kept interrupting nelly so couldn't get to key details. I don't even know how nelly was able to keep telling the story
@@shmokey59 That 5% was him making his own way. Why make the call to stop it?
That 5% was probably some back door shady shit that Nelly didn’t want no parts of. And why do the job if you ain’t gettin paid for it? Sounds like Ali obligated himself to something and then couldn’t get out of it, just like he suggests new artists should do SMH
I think Nelly explained. They didn’t own none of their publishing and till now they still don’t for sure so they are not putting their names on the contributions they put in and just expected Nelly to give them from his pocket which he did But for how long though 😂😂 for 20yrs
Ali:We Are Not Ready To Perform We Not Ready!!!
Nelly:I Had To Set it Off If I Didn’t We Be Still Doing Gimmie What You Got Songs!!! 😂😂😂 #SetItOff
In other words, “ain’t nobody came to see you Otis”.....
On my soul 😂😂😂
In other words without ALI it ain't no NELLY!
@@Foxxmrgrgl nelly never said otherwise. No one has. He simply didn’t pop like that.
Best comment on here
@@user-vj8qd7ph7g 😂.....crazy part is in this interview he said Nelly told 90% truth and twisted 10%.....c’mon fam.
The only interview I ever watched where I actually WANTED the interviewer to interrupt 😭😭😭. Keep unc on track, mane! LOL
They way I just fell out lol 😅
Whew. Imma have to roll with Nelly on this one. Lol
@@Genisvell1983 exactly he sound like he lying
@@Genisvell1983 Lmfaooo
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They asked this man about his beef with Nelly he tells his Life story.
People want Attention
@ alonzo Jordan 🤣🤣🤣 he want more money than Nelly's had been given him for years. Some people don't understand, friendship is not a responsibility. I just leave it at that.
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But when you throw money in the mix you become my constant giving friend even when i piss it away and no matter how many years go by. This is why celebrities rather keep rich friends and leave the old broke friends in the past.
So did Nelly can't say part gotta say whole
Nelly career is the whole pie lol the rest barely had slices @@jacobsladder6715
Perfect example of making a 15 min story into a 2hr rambling about nothings😅🤣😂😂😂
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I only been watching this interview for 2 minutes and I can comfortably confirm Nelly was telling the truth and this dude Ali is perpetrating out this world!!!!!🤣😂🤣😂
2 minutes in and I’m like bruh cut to the chase 😂
Facts
Because perpetrators don’t last long
Double facts!!!!
Chingy said it best in Beef 3......."Ali wanna be where he's at, but he sucks" bruhhhh🤣🤣🤣🤣💯💯💯💯
In my Nelly voice “ain’t nobody going home if Ali don’t hit the stage” 😂😂😂
Right..
Lol 😆
Lol chill out
Beautiful "Ain't nobody coming to see you Otis" moment
@Shabooya Jones
Nobody wanna see that shit
Damn...I just binge watched every episode of Martin on Netflix, came back to TH-cam and Ali is still talking! 😏
Wait Martin is on Netflix now!
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Martin is on netflix? Nigga let me find out
B HIGH: How did everything go wrong?
Ali: Bill Cosby and Spike Lee sent us to school
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Proud to hear our elders. Where on Post in doing duties Beyond being an elder. Remember Bill Cosby. Don't be so brainwashed people. Remember all he did even from the 60s. He's not with the media machine promotes!
💀💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣🤣 that shit was funny! Thank you bc I needed that laugh man! Lol
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"Yo, I'm 40! I should be in a position at a label!" 🤣🤣🤣 Bruh.... why for?! Delusions of grandeur.
Should Nelly had him as the president of dirty entertainment at one point in time but he fumbled the ball. Nelly was expecting him to sign new artist will bring a new talent in and all he want to do is try to make his own CDs thinking he was still going to blow. But Nelly pretty much said at that point in time he already knew the the ship had passed Ali by by that time nobody was feeling Ali nobody was looking for Ali cd. At that point in time Ali needed to accept the fact that he wasn't a popular superstar and he didn't have that type of character to be a star and he should have just started finding new talent instead of trying to be a star and putting out his garbage CDs. Had all he did that he probably still being a good position right now he's probably still be the president of dirty entertainment and we probably have a few new artists out under Nelly's dirty entertainment umbrella
“SO WHAT IS THE ISSUE THEN!!??” 😂😂 Literally damn near everybody question in they heads
That Nelly interview was legendary.
Someone made an excellent point. When it got real during the pandemic , more and more stories like this are coming out.
Because it amplified the internet by a 100. Podcast shot up tremendously. Before the pandemic having a podcast wasn’t nearly as popular
If lying and jealousy was a person. 😂😂😂
Was he lying the whole interview
Exactly
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Urrbody know Ali wrote most of they early shit, Nelly did him durrrrtty frl
If bitter af was a person. You ain't lying 😅😅
From what I gathered from this interview, Ali had the mindset of (it doesn’t matter what the contract say, it doesn’t matter how much you make up front, the only thing that’s important is getting famous and then everything else will work it’s self out) Nelly had the mindset of making sure the contract and business was properly taken care of and if it wasn’t for Nelly bringing them along after he blew up, they would probably still be in St. Louis as local talent
Also Ali has the type of mindset where he feels entitled since Nelly is successful and thinks nelly is obligated to take care of him and look out for him as much as possible. The thing is, Nelly put you in position over 20 years ago, it’s your fault that you didn’t manifest tangibles.
Ali cared more about fame than he cared about gaining fortune, 20 years later, he’s somewhat famous and probably financially unstable
Dam very true. But if the goal is to keep the machine running and Ali helped in multiple ways, then it would make him eligible for payment. But if nelly cut him out of deals he should have left then you r started his own business while still working with nelly 🤷🏽♂️
Ali cared about himself. Seeing that, he was on his own, and couldn’t handle the weight. Tons of horrible decisions. He’s where he’s at because of HIM.
@@UnkoMykesLLC Facts!
Well Said brother.....and Gracia for strength and straightforward views...Nelly Must call it a wrap with these envious and beefs hungry folks....
Basically
He Bitter about his failed career
The End.
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Facts right here
Facts
He’s bitter for being loyal to someone who wasn’t loyal to him. Everything isn’t about money...
Nobody ever said "put that Ali on, its hard!" 💁🏾♂️💁🏾♂️🤣
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Lmfaooo!!!
Never
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Ali up here looking like a stunt double for uncle phil on the thumbnail.
Lol..
LMAO you bogus lol
stunt double?
@@Saluteme10288
Thnks for the correction 👍
@@terrancehoward4654 no worries
He already said 90% of what nelly said was true . That’s all I need to hear
Saves time from watching the rest of the interview after that statement lmao
The other 10% makes a difference
@@jaleelcason1505 well the 10% that he explained still didn’t really make sense
Bruh the 10% percent was about Nelly wanting to have one if hes 3 wishes used on now else will have any wishes 🤣🤣🤣 . C'mon man so why would he give u more money at times when he didnt have to. At some point Ali should have been more business savvy and also more creative to make a money move instead of trying to ride Nelly's brand that hes publishing team already had through Nelly.
@@jaleelcason1505 but does that change the outcome though?
Props to the interviewer for not walking out of his own interview😆
He was giving him signs that, he know this nigga full of it and drunk.
CTFUUUUUUU
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Lol
I just screamed 😂😂😂... too funny
Ali is the hero in every one of his stories 🤣
thats how i knew he was fulla shit lmaoooo
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How so. He's just so too old to be wanting to be in Nelly's group.
Old Papa must just the young ones be
He was jealous of Nelly blowing up and he didn't case closed 🤷
Ali was trash tho 😂😂😂
“Ore ore ooooo, Let me here you say”
REAL TALK WE FROM THE CITY BORN AND RAISED IN THA LOU.... I KKOW ALL OF THEM PERSONALLY... LEEZY ALWAYS WANTED 2 be THE LEAD... ALI CANNT RAP PERIOD NELLY HAD THA LOOK AND SOUND... HISTORY....
@@vonb8028 stop capping u don't know Nelly and STLunatics
@@vonb8028 Alis flow was crazy everyone just biased toward Nelly during this beef right now .. they all could rap kyjuan was the least important tho his flow was cool but always lazy and he never dropped a solo project cause it would’ve sold worse than Ali’s
Shout out to B-High and Wick for being able to listen & follow. I'm sorry- I tried. 😔😩
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At the end of the day bro, Nelly owes you guys....nada!!!
Facts after hearing nelly interview he did way more for ali
Exactly
Nelly ain't their dad lol his a grown man Nelly gave him a platform and he didn't take advantage of it
Tell em gee
that sounds goofy, he thought them how to rap lol
Ali sounds like he in his feelings cus Nelly don’t need him, he needs Nelly. And he just rambling talking about nothing half the interview. This could have been a 30 min interview 😂
This is what I said. Ali is such a liar it's sad
You stupid for missing the point. Nelly cut him out of an opportunity that could have empowered him where he could have ate without Nelly but needed him to get in the door. Nelly wanted to control the narrative so that would remain needing him, that is the conflict. It just took him 30 minutes to get to the point but it took you less time to write this dumb ass comment.
@@waltertroxler1601 lol you one of them people who love conflict you . You can't have alot in life to write that statement. you should get help nobody owe no one nothing in life we only live one time what happened to him is what he let happen he was a grown men
I agree with his statement about Bill Cosby. As a young teenager, watching The Cosby Show and a Different World made me want to attend college. I only wanted to go because I could leave my parent's house and be on my own and make my own decisions while trying to figure out the path I wanted to take in life.
Your easily distracted I see. Bill Cosby
@@rm_on_22smartin28 bill Cosby will forever be great for that though.
Them shows made blacks to powerful, they had to implement more "Gangsterism" to reverse the effects.
Check the timeline 👁
@@dozhadeville444 Make sense.
@@rm_on_22smartin28 Nope. You're wrong now try again.
Simply put: if Nelly bought the lake so that he can control the distribution of the fish that the St. Lunatics eat; you have to take your fishing pole to another lake if you disagree with how fishing on that lake is governed.
Facts yo
I agree
Boss spoken💯
Facts
THE END😒
“I said, yo, sign this contract. It don’t make no difference what the contract say.” Uhhhh, what?!? 🙄🤔
Right it’s 💀 right there
@@mrmone6023 crazy! Lol
Funnnnnnny lol 😆
lol
FACTS lol
1:04:32 - Ludacris talk
Thanks for helping me not waste time waiting for that segment
Thanks you cuz thats all I was looking for ! Lol
Thank you
Thanks man cuz I've been searching for the part bout Luda
Thanks Dj self literally scrolled to find your text fam ✊
Peep, During the Beef between chingy and Nelly... Chingy said then, “Ali wanna be Nelly but he can’t, he suck”.... chingy said this years ago...
This interview could’ve been 15 minutes. 😂💀
Exactly🤦🏽♂️
Nigaah! For every direct question this dude was asked, he went around the world and back and half the time still didn't answer the damned question! 🤨
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Factz
I see why there's confusion ali do a lot of double talking.
Agreed
Capital L
LYING
I'm confused also he 6'5 he has panic attacks tipdrill
Wowzer's...😎
After just listening to Nelly interview I don't believe shit Ali said💯
Nelly and Ali just need to talk one on one hug it out life too short
Ali lame for being jealous and feel another man owe him cause he failed . Why nobody else acting like this ? Murphy already spoke his peace and basically said the samething nelly said
Facts
Bro I agree they just need to talk it out! No need for hate!
@@edvaz2521 yeah man it’s ridiculous but at the end of the day Ali been in the game longer than nelly. Ali really should been boss up.
@@ellsworthconstructionllc
"We was broke with no deal but nobody could tell/so we did what had to for "Country Grammar" would sell".
Murphy Lee
What Da Hook Gon Be
The way he explained that money issue makes me believe Nelly was just giving him money
When he started demonstrating how to rap, I was dying😅😅😅
Chile…this man really thinks he’s convincing us 😂😂😂
This interview gave me a migraine. Ali talking in circles. B high and Wicked probably thinking "I wish he just answer the question(s) we ask instead of going around the barn with these answers..."
Fr 😂😂😂
Bruhhh im trying to tell you
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Lol... what is Ali trying to say here. I keep scratching my head. I like dude what is the issues. After listening to Nelly he never tried to do anyone dirty in this business. Nelly just kept going and networking until he hit the motherlode..Ali might have done somethings but he wasn't working it as hard as Nelly.
The highlight of Ali’s career is when Nelly featured him on “Grillz” and the nigga rapped one of the whackest lines in recorded hip hop history “got a Bill in my mouth like I’m Hillary Rodham” but it’s Nelly fault his career bricked? FOH !
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Lmfao u stuuuupiiiiddd😂😂😂😂 he was dead weight the whole time nelly and Murphy was the rappers everyone else was dancers 👯♂️
😂😂 his verse was garbage but the whackest ever 😂😂 damn.......but naw he wasnt dead weight just wasnt marketed correctly the type of artist he is isnt like a Murphy Lee or Nelly but Nelly was/is the biggest out of the Tics naturally is a star and the most marketable Murph being second but Kyjuan and City Spud are more dead weight
@@freestateofgrizzy1937 City was locked up the whole time Nelly was hot, so i wouldn't say he was dead weight!
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For those who don’t want to watch the whole interview and want to cut to the chase
Ali agrees with pretty much everything nelly said in the interview, he just doesn’t like the fact that Nelly made him seem like a worthless bum and a idiot Who doesn’t know business. also he feels like nelly should do more for him and he has a sense of entitlement.
Exactly!!!
What about the Luda part?
Basically sounds like he's upset cause he couldn't rap and just wants money handed to him
And Nelly pretty much said that. He wants to be it. But didn’t have the ability to get them out on correctly and make sure every body was good.
Much appreciated
If Nelly was still taking them on tour with him there would be no problem right now
FACTZ KING!!!
Nelly should have put his homies in position. He wouldnylt have to carry them on his back if they able to fish for themselves. Kyjuan and Murphy suing him. That's why there no 20th anniversary tour.
@@maseratiskrill You absolutely correct,, but sometimes even showing them how to fish doesn't mean they will master the skillset King. Just a fact. He had some valid points "morally" but at the end of the day it's STILL business.
@@foondesignsceo73 you right bro, and business ain't friendly. That where alot go wrong, including me. I learned you not owed anything really, it's up to you to negotiate and cut the best deal for yo self.
On that note, just think if the right brothaz, was in position, St. Louis would be waaaay bigger with pipelines of talent
Nelly put his whole crew in position to win. What are y'all talking about? He wasn't obligated to take them on tour or make music with them for all the years he did. He got his whole team a bag and they fumbled it. It's not Nelly responsibility to take care of grown men. It's been 20 years since they got their deals. How long does Nelly need to stand next to them to make what they do pop off? Murphy Lee was a platinum artist off his solo album too outside of the Lunatics and even won a grammy.
Moral of the story: get your business right with the contracts.
Exactly, he gave some terrible advice, “contract don’t matter if you hot” -
Alway$ Read the Contract when doing business with Friends or otherwise. #foodforthought
Fr
All the greats got rape by contract in the beginning yet?! they figure it out and most had long careers some didn't but going on a interview tour not it.
Facts
Damn bro. I feel for Ali but at the same time, he too grown and knowledgeable to keep putting himself in this position. Can’t blame Nelly for everything.
dude sounds like he want access to his rich friend and he don’t speak up when wronged just to be in his good graces to get loans when things are tight. better believe if he gets in ANY jam. he call nelly for bread.
My nigga said I put something together that went diamond out the gate.....
Nigga...... NELLY went diamond, not the Lunatics. You can't take credit for another nigga bag...
Facts!
He's saying he helped Country Grammar go diamond by contributing to the album by writing all the Lunatics helped with that album going diamond
@@freestateofgrizzy1937 ehhh... Nelly said that could have BEEN ON country grammar, but decided to stay on the sideline. That was the lead single, but the project as a whole was done by Nelly (per his words)
And idk who lying... but Nelly is a better communicator, so it's easier to believe someone with a str8 fwd thought process. Ali rambling and mumbling thru most of this shit.
@@FnIggnent I mean yes Nelly did majority of the leg work but the lunatics still helped with the album I say this because Im from St Louis and as a kid I saw these guys first hand grind in the mid and late 90s and blow up I mean I dont know them personally but I know people who know them
He contributed big on that album behind the scenes
The fact remains is this, with MOST groups the star normally out works EVERYONE else. Just a fact! And that turns to resentment at some point when others get lazy and no longer an asset to the group as a whole. Friends or not, that will start to break things up cause people do change. I seen Nelly interview and his story seems more believable because I've been in this kind of thing more than once. Loyalty isn't ALWAYS appreciated. #RememberThat
Naw the star is always handed the opportunities more
Where's the nelly interview you've seen?
@@showmestatefinest5412 Thats with ANYTHING! It's business. Why would they care about the ones who aren't stars. All business never personal.
@@martinshaw7605 search Creative Trends: Nelly talks about.... it should pop up.
@@foondesignsceo73 You're right. But then “family” and my “brother” should never be thrown around when it comes to business. What history has shown us is that groups who members claimed that they were family broke up over money issues. So what that tells me is that you were never family to begin with or you value fortune and fame over family.
That Management deal story back fires on Ali. Someone came to you that wants to work with Nelly on a management deal. They Cut you in on a pre deal. Nelly takes a different deal that does not include you. At a time you guys are not even speaking to each other, yet you expect him to just give you free money out of the deal. Nelly explained this in his interview. Its a 100,000 deal for Nelly. IN order for you to make 5% that has to come out of Nelly's Money. Why would you expect him to pay himself less so that someone that he does not even speak to gets money? Yet you keep saying your a Man.
What people don't know, and haven't figured out is....You attract your blessings in life by being a blessing to other people....thats how you keep the harmony in your life.
Sounds like the 💰 is getting low and the hunger is showing.
FACTS!!💯
Yea it always sounds like that to fans
5150
Exactly what this is🤏🏾 they're bags are low on funds damn near gone and they need something to hang on to and they using Nelly name to keep the shit going they need his name to get funds 💯💯
The words of corey Holcomb
This is a situation where a person has outgrown the rest of the group and the group is still stuck on day one. Everyone can learn about true cohesiveness from New Edition. They go through, but the love and the hustle is still there.
Cohesion
Luda and Nelly came in the Game around the Same Exact Time, I remember I was in high school, Nelly had his hit Country Grammer( the song). And Luda had his hit Whats your Fantasy
My freshman year
they were in the game before that.. those were just the first hits they finally got that blew them up.. all those years before.. "gimmie what ya got" , "fat rabbit".. country grammar wasn't even called that until right up before it or right after (cant remember.. im a real old dude compared to most in here prolly) it popped..just a fyi fa yall 1luv
99 for Luda then 00 for Nelly .
2000 was a great year for music 💯
Those songs didn’t come out at the same time, try again babes
HE LYING 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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hell yea
Come on CJ lmao
Yo azz wild bro🤣💀🤣💀
Naw
If you really put me on put yourself on then - Jay Z
I'm riding with Nelly's story.
Damn the back story, this dude failed to take care of biz 4 real. Somebody please show David Ruffin the door
Nelly is a business man and they are employees, the mindset is diff and they didn’t want to change or take the risk. When they got the guaranteed opportunity to do their own deal/solo project didn’t go. 20 years later still eating off just Nelly alone, no other income streams!
$75,000 was for Nelly publishing not the Lunatics publishing.
Exactly
They each signed and agreed
Ali is stuck between nostalgia, regret and being mad at himself. Nelly probably stoped taking care of him. I honestly cant figure out what Ali is pissed about or understand what he is trying to explain
Oop
Remember chingy said Ali always wanted to be Nelly
He tryna get people to see Nelly a ''Bad Person'' but in reality he stayed loyal to the ''Bad Person'' for 20+ years so it's regret mixed with reality and he just needs someone to let it out to because everyone who was around them that knows the truth not gonna side with Ali because they ALL used each other... It's called Family/Friendship
@@eazedrop8140 i watched the end and he finaly came out and said Nelly stoped him from getting money on a management deal. Nelly probably knew better than letting him in on a deal with him
@@Stewtubeyoutubetv you right I just seen it too. Nelly spoon fed him so he would still need Nelly
I’m proud of Chingy for not falling under Ali’s trap to beef with Nelly. He would have been begging for money like Ali is now 😂😂😂😂
When he said “sign this contract, it doesn’t matter what it says”, he lost me there! People constantly try to get these young cats sign contracts & not know what they are signing, it never ends well! People need to tell these young cats don’t sign anything that you don’t understand!
He's stupid for that statement, You gotta read before signing
Better yet, get a entertainment lawyer.
Late reply but a reply non the less. Had they not signed the contract would there be a Nelly and the tics today? What he said actually made sense “if we sign we get free studio time to work on the music we need. If we don’t sign the contract we won’t be able to record the music and we have to pay for it and we’re barley making it”. Yes it was messed up, but signing that deal is the reason there is a Nelly and S. lunatics today
You all say he was stupid for saying that, but thousands of artists do thus daily. desperation will make u sign anything for peanuts.
@@VernB314 u smoking p2 young bull 100% publishing is everything you work for stay in school if ur old it's never to late Ali is where hes at in life for a reason its only 1% rich ppl in this world ill let that sink in ur peanut brain
I’m riding with Nelly and Murphy lee both told the same stories
It all boils down too Nelly still doing shows getting to the bag Ali ain’t
That's true and then also I realize that nelly had the total package as a star and he was more advanced than the other members in the st lunatics earlier on in their career but ali is more on the business side than being an artist and he did a lot of things with universal records that people didn't know about like for example he tried to get huey signed R.I.P. when he came out when he first started jumping off but the label denied him then he tried to sign chingy which didn't work also but luckily he sold 3 million records with DTP under ludacris record label which started the beef between nelly and chingy then fast forward he went after J-kwon and tried to put him on universal but they also didn't want him and then jermaine dupri snatched him up and the next thing you know he's with so so def so basically after those opportunities fell through he had no choice but to focus on the lunatics and ride with nelly but to be real about Ali's situation you can't carry a grown ass man forever and blame another man for your problems.
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@@jarellbrown6974 your comment makes the most sense I don't know what these other folks saying💯
@@aawardhamptons2614 lol thanks
@@jarellbrown6974 Nelly said to Ali it was all in his head over and over again it hurts so bad
1:01:05 He’s like “Man! Get straight to the point”! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you smh
He ain't come cause it ain't about him
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Dude really played himself and he didn't handle his business right in the beginning
Facts
Brothers who built everything together shouldn’t be fighting or hate! Y’all come a long way to end it like this
Jealousy is a Muufucha. Pac said it best, "Keep yo enemies close and watch yo homies"
U don't know the inside stuff that went on
It’s so sad to see Salt n Pepa fucking up their legacy at this stage and age . Horrible
At this point i dont know who to believe both these cats good talkers i honestly cant tell who's lying 😐. I was hard on Ali in the comments after watching Nelly tell his side but after listening to Ali dude sound like a solid cat so im done commenting on the situation.
Big Factz
This man on there sounding like a hurt ex girlfriend 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@@pcorporan45pc 🤣🤣🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
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Sad part is half of y’all ain’t watch the interview and just wanted to quote The Temptations.
Great Interview
@Rich Riascos 😂😂😂
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Ali seems to have a big heart but his business mind is flawed. He emotional about the wrong things and the mindset of “get hot and worry about that later” is why this is happening. Reminds me of the Cam and Jim situation when they beefed except Jim was a hustler and made it shake on His own
His business mind in his 20s was horrible omg 😳 “just sign the contract what it says doesn’t matter...” 🤯🤯😬😬😳😳
If you are a hit someone else will come bail you out 😂This dudes mindset
His mind is still horrible lol
I remember I’m the BEEF 3 documentary Nelly was clowning Chingy “Ain’t nobody bought a ticket to see Chingy” and current day “Ain’t nobody bought a ticket to see Ali” 😂😂😂
The music industry gets very weird when the sun shine brighter on a individual in a group.
I feel sorry for Nelly, he had to carry all them grown men/boys for so long. He sounds like Nelly is the key to everything.
Nelly lie Ali didn't he told the truth derty.
Without Nelly Noone would know these dudes
Ali lying now he dancing around in circles
There's no way personal business should be aired this way.
AGREED
Why not? Didn't u hear tht Nelly been puttin the shit on IG!
YUP! Breaking the G code
@@h.s.9826 Wasn't that after All saod his piece 1st?
@@dexterwilliams443 yep
If you get addicted to watching old stories your probably not focused on making new news for yourself . I know i have caught myself doing the same thing
This our music history bro
Nelly said it best he is a star.. I don't know why this is relevant anymore. Oftentimes people stay stuck in the past wondering about so many things that went right and what went wrong. Nelly interview was enlightening and ringing with truth. All I will say be happy and keep it moving forward. Ali want to state his truth on whatever the issues are from their past. God has blessed each and everyone of them. Money shouldn't change people but it does and that is the reason why people are always on the defensive about what is their truth...Business and friendship can cause friction especially when their are two chiefs and neither one can respect the other decisions.
Ludacris would rhyme circles around Nelly & his St. Lunatics. Ali's so Whack he ain't even worth dissing.
Every1 in st lunatics is trash except Nelly,he aight.
Facts. Murphy Lee might give him a run
Facts, Ludacris got bars.
100%
You never realize your accent until you go away to college 😂
Biiiiiiiiiig Facts!!!!
Hell yea, lmao.... that shit made me laugh thinking about college
Actual factuals
True as hell
FACTS
When people can't explain the problem or beef, it's because they can't rightfully say I'm jealous
Bro need talking points. He be EVERYWHERE
Right I'm lost. Wicked asked what group he start he went into a whole story talking about nothing
@@showmestatefinest5412 I had to laugh because I'm in the middle of that rambling right now..lol.. no disrespect to Ali though
@@iamlmmays and he talking fast and sound like he be running out of breath
@@showmestatefinest5412 right I peeped that too🤦🏽♂️
He's had this on his head and heart for a while, and it's a lot all trying to come out at one time. Plus, the alcohol doesn't help to string it together...truthful though. Good interview.
He's enjoying his chance to tell his side of the story.
Nelly doing shows where they want only nelly. He was the only one on the contract. He was paying out of his own money. Like he said if they could do better they would
Ali need to let this go. They all agreed that Nelly was the star and decided to ride his coattails. How long does this nigga think he was supposed to ride Nelly's coattails?
He is gray and still talking about what happened in 1932 in details. It seems his life stopped at 16. Smh
He made them and as far as riding coattails Nelly was the breakout star. Ali discovered the group he taught them their whole gimmick but Nelly didn't reciprocate the love. He thought their love was on the same level. "We all we got" listen to that phrase. Nelly kept backdooring, hmmm shadow banning or black listing his shine.
@@jessicajohnson4200
That's what Ali is saying. I think that Ali got lazy and didn't hustle hard enough when the opportunities presented themselves. It's easy to say that Nelly blackballed him but history showed us that Nelly put him in position to make his own moves. He's mad that he isn't as successful as Nelly, point blank.
@@ARMYSTRONG007
I'm almost certain that Ali is older than Nelly.
TRUE.... ALI MADE ENOUGH MONEY NIGGA AINT GONE KEEP HOLDING YO HAND....
I'm a cancer also we can be loyal to our own detriment. Just gotta learn from your mistakes and keep it pushing
After watching Nelly interview and breakdown Nelly hands is clean in this mess
" You made Hov, ok make another one" ... It's obvious Nelly had the Star Quality and Talent. Sometimes it' not just your Talent, its the Total Package. They all had Solo Deals, none really hit besides Murphy Lee.Even B-Hi and Wicked looking with the side eye.
Because nelly wasn’t lying at all
They was gon look with the side eye anyway because he's dissing somebody from Atlanta, bad idea
@@rondavis19 Who did he diss from da A?
@@showmestatefinest5412 Moving to Atlanta at 9 years old aint no where near "damn near grown"😒..And he wasnt on the Welcome To Atlanta (Remix) and repped ATL his whole damn career for nothing. Yeah, YOU my night think he's from the Atlanta but I guarantee you Atlanta claims him like a mf
So why back door me or not support deals that may help me.
Anybody from STL over 35 knows that's Gimme What You Got is nostalgic. Takes you right back to those times
Ayeee STL STAND UP! LOL
Okayyy he got 0NE off
So basically Ali is upset because they was playing a 3 wish game backstage and Nelly said his only wish is that nobody get any wishes.
Tragic.
That st lunatics album sold more than some of these legends whole career.
😩
When you think about it you got a point. For example a group like Brand Nubian
I bought it July 2001
Free City is legendary. Every song. They don't make albums you can bump all the way through no more.
#1 on billboard, on billboard for 23 weeks.
Ali emotionally hurt more than anything over Nelly.... he's really on the fence even wanting to diss Nelly because he know in his heart they both did wrong and he's going to need Nelly 💯
He think he is still supposed to ride Nelly's coattails. How long Nelly is supposed to carry this grown ass man.
But he opened his mouth first,Nelly didn't say nun until Ali went on his lil rant
@@greddmyles3677 exactly. He been saying little slick shit about Nelly FOR MONTHS! Then deleting the shit off IG. At some point enough is enough so Nelly spoke on it- and moved on.
Day 1: my brother ( silent until the grave)
Day2: we live we love we fight we argue and we see shit
Day 3: things didn't work out as we planned and I'm mad about it all (stfu and refer back to day one)
I could hate your guts today but I signed that verbal contract during peacetime. Doesn't change the terms of the contract. I don't respect Brothers talkin out loud today tomorrow or 10 years from now
@@Touchcinity 💯
….there is no way he actually thought “Don’t get a lawyer because that’s our way out if it don’t work”.
I listened to this whole interview.. What the hell is Ali even talking about.. He just rambling on and on about some bullshit.. Nelly told it from beginning to end very clearly.. Nelly makes sense.. Ali just makes a mess..
Thank you for saving me sometime. It starts off like he’s on some BS. Smh.
If you’ve ever helped an artist develop.... you know it’s a FULL TIME JOB. Salute
What I got from both interviews is the way Nelly does business is direct; you want me and I will only sign with you if you give me x,y, and z. Ali's business style is indirect. I'll get in anyway I can. I'll let you take my first born and when I'm good, I'll go back and get him. He always has to go back and fix things, but the problem is he's assuming the opportunity to fix things will always be there. As he said Nelly bought their publishing back, not him. Nelly got the group a record deal, not him. He doesn't have leadership qualities, so Nelly treats him like someone hired to do a gig. If I was Nelly, I wouldn't trust him to be the plug between me and my management either. His wife sounds more like a go getter, and I caught that he said he's divorced. I wonder if she got tired? Ali just wants a steady paycheck, and a corner office, so he needs to go get that.
The sad thing is, he doesn't even deserve an office. But he sure does deserve a corner. And he needs to face the wall when he goes to it.
Yeah the way I see Ali and get from him is he's the type that just leaches off of the people he doesn't do any of the groundwork he waits for someone else to get near the finish line and then hurries up and tries to trade places with them and then finishes the race at the last minute. He wanted to be a liaison between Nelly and management like who even needs that? It's like he wants to job or wants a percentage to do stuff that is irrelevant
Tab da villain was my partner Marvin cousin. He went to Cali, signed with Ruthless records and got locked up and sent to prison. Then Bone Thugs blew up.
Dam...
That's deep....
In 93 I’m guessing
Damn