@@thanosianthemadtitanic y'all forget he's just as interested in cars as us. Of course he was going to review this gem. By the way these type of videos pay the bills
This car came from a different era. Now we live in an era of sugar and salt. An era where 33% of Americans are obese and have giant chunks of fat hanging from their fuckin rib-cage.
Same here, I watch all of Doug’s videos I’m always excited to get the notification. But these are the type of reviews that spark that enthusiast passion
I remember as a kid in the early 90s driving through France with my dad. He had BMW from the same era. He saw an M5 behind us and pointed it out. I didn’t think anything of it, but I kept watching and then it just absolutely rocketed passed us! It was one of the coolest things I’d ever seen. I’ve been obsessed with them ever since!
The Check button in the roof Check Control is not for checking the statuses of all those sensors. The respective light would light up automatically whenever a problem was discovered and stay on till solved. Instead the Check button was used to check that all the red lights still worked so that a broken light bulb would not mislead the driver to believe there wasn't a problem in that source because it didn't turn on. German thoroughness...
That's correct but not complete. In case of a fault you have e blinking "check" light in the instrument cluster. You'll have to clear that "check" with the check button.
With old cars in the manual for the car there were things like "to change the oil unscrew this cap" , "to maintain your transmission and dampers..." and they give you the tools to do it yourself But today i wouldn't be surprised if I find "the coolant liquid is not drinkable"
The "mechanical stuff" trunk box is the battery location. It was moved there from a regular E28 front mount for better weight distribution. A neat feature. The additional button by the front window switches is for the driver to lock out the rear windows for children. The On Board Computer can also be operated directly by buttons for additional features. The Check Control will light up when there is an error, the Check button is just to test the bulbs. The Euro engine actually has 286HP. The US S38 is still derived from the M1 engine, it still has individual throttle bodies so is quite special. Rear headrests were optional on Euro spec cars, just decontented for the US. Thank you for covering my favorite era of BMW, we need to see an E23 and E24 next!
Highly appreciate all these valuable information regarding a car from my era. I used to see them including the BMW E23 but neither had the chance to be in one of them nor find someone to give the information I needed to know as you posted them above. For me, I believe that BMW cars of that era were more BMW than the current ones. Thank you so much.
The battery was also relocated to free space under the hood. Also, US cars used a 3.91 rear axle ratio (instead of the euro cars 3.73) to try to make up for the ~20% worse power to weight ratio of the NA car compared to the euro car. 3400 lbs/256 hp= 13.2 vs 3150 lbs/282 hp= 11.2. Euro cars had higher compression and used an equal length tubular header. US car had a cast iron exhaust manifold.
The importance of this car can not be understated. As Doug said it lead to arguably every single 4 door car with a badass power plant. It was here that actual car companies realized they could market soup’d up versions of their lineup.
But many American cars did that already before the M5. It's a shame they don't get the credit they deserve and it's probably because it's not a German automaker
Yeah, right. Australia was doing this from the 1967 XR Ford Falcon GT and Mercedes from at least the 300SEL 6.3. Other countries also did similar things.
one of my uncles bought this car for 20k in 2004. I was just a kid then and knew nothing about cars, and I was so confused why he spent 20k to buy a really old car. It's worth about 50k now, but regardless, it's a great car that isn't often appreciated.
Please never stop reviewing old cars, I know new cars bring in the views and money but old cars are great to watch just to see the things they where doing back then and seeing this car, realize how ahead of its time it was
Good find sir. I remember driving one of these several years ago. I wasn't too impressed by the performance. I was expecting more. The owner said, "Come back and truly push the car." I did and wow was it fun. They are amazing cars. Thank you Doug for making this video and reminding me of how much fun these old cars are.
A few more quirks: The versions without AC had different dashboards, they werent even tilted to the driver. Only the m5 had the battery in the trunk because the airbox was in its place so they had to move it. The euro version had different headlight design, one larger and one smaller unit. The 524td with 115 hp was the fastest diesel in the world at that time.
Versions without A/C had the same dashboard but a different centre console, which was als tilted towards the driver. Non A/C center console looks 10 times better, I deleted my A/C, rather roll the windows down and enjoy the M30 soundtrack.😁
Man, I was a teenager in the '80s -- in fact, this car was sold the day after my 17th birthday -- and I was so into BMWs at the time. They were all so cool, but this one -- wow! These '80s and '90s BMWs really bring back some great memories. I've always been a big fan of BMWs of this era.
Growing up just outside Toronto, my neighbor had one of these. He was a lovely gentleman from Quebec who spoke mostly French Canadian. He had a gold regular 5 series when he moved on to our street in 1986. He replaced that the following year with an M5 brought over from Europe to Quebec. It was somewhat common to find European cars in Quebec at that time. Now, I was always interested in cars as my dad was a car salesman but even back then I knew this car was something special. The bumpers on his car were much less intrusive and the car simply looked sinister. All black inside and out. I can't remember exactly what he did for a living, but he was much younger than my dad and we lived in the best neighborhood in town. And in those days, if you were French Canadian but the company decided to send you to Ontario to work... You were either a hockey player or a big deal. Claude had great taste and his wife was a total stunner. All this coming from my early teenage memory.
I picked up my E34 M5 on Cars and Bids a year and a half ago and I still smile every time I see it! This motor really is something special and the E34 interior does such a good job of updating some of the awkward bits about the E28. If you’re ever in Nashville and want to give it a drive let me know! It’s 100% OEM
Whoever buys this E28 is one lucky guy! That car is beautiful and well-preserved! 😍 Additionally, having all the paperworks and records all the way from the time of purchase truly fascinates me!
there used to be a car like that....one of the worst cars ever....handling is quite floaty and heavy...weak engines start very quickly and the fuel consumption is of course cosmic....79 ford escort 1.6 rs is something special... one of the best old cars.. very accurate sharp badamib rear drive and liked dynamic and light.... another very good car is Renault 25 baccara V6 turbo, but it is front wheel drive and more luxury.. better done and a fast 80's car and there are many other interesting cars
I don't know what it is, but as I get older, I appreciate more and more cars that are from in and around the year of my birth. Genuinely think the mid to late 80s had some of the most beautiful, special cars of all time. This thing is gorgeous!
There is something special about late 80's and early 90's German cars. The way they drive, the way they feel, the way they sound....... It's something you just can't explain to someone else.
I had a 1990 bmw 535i and it was my favorite car ever... got it to 250k. I was a valet at a fancy place, I've driven everything. That old beemer was a masterpiece. You are correct sir.
@@bingload Even my old MKII GTI's and GLI's are something special. I've always got my eye out for a nice clean MKII or Corrado. I know those things inside and out. Suck easy vehicles to operate and maintain.
This was a dream car of mine, graduated from engineering in 85, had a 320, rallied with the BMW club here in Toronto, saw when these came out, there was nothing like it at the time. Had 400E Merc with Sportline suspension loved it! Still have my 92 500 SL , old school, 73 Mach 1 and V8 Vantage. Love these old 5 series, drove several 528i, they were Panzers.
Living in Germany, it was pretty surprising how insanely expensive these old 3-series and 5-series are over here. Even the regular-engine 3’s and 5’s are WAAYY more expensive than they were in Texas
Es geht, in den Staaten werden eben nur größere Motoren angeboten der kleinste Bmw E30 war der 325i mit 170 ps. Und die Basisaustattung ist auch höher. Ledersitze, Klimaanlage gehören ebenfalls zur Grundausstattung. In Deutschland sind Modelle mit einer Solchen Austattung direkt Sammler und Liebhaberfahrzeuge. Der Nachteil in den USA ist, dass häufig günstigere Materialien verwendet wurden bsp Kunstleder anstatt echtes. Ein weiterer großer Punkt ist dass die meisten Bmws mit Automatikgetriebe gebaut wurden. Alte Bmws mit Schaltgetriebe sind meist sogar viel teurer als in Deutschland.
That defogger thing: the two little circles with arrows actually tell you where to twist the left and right dials, which are temp and blower speed dials (Hi settings on both) to defog the windshield, they don't point to where to put the horizontal switches...
@freepieanchipsgarage I was around at that time. And yes, it indeed was electronically limited. Thats one of the reasons it could never be as fast as the Lotus Omega, so where did you get that "fact" from saying it was faster, I wonder?
Hello Doug, the E28 M5 sold in 1988 in the US were actually fitted with the same original Motorsport 3l5 24 valves engines as the other E28 M5 sold everywhere else. The ones without catalytic exhaust that were sold in Europe back then developped 286 DIN hp, DIN standing for Deutsches Institut für Normung or German Institute for Normalsation which edicted a standard way of measuring car engines power output that was used by all the european car companies except the british ones until 1992, when it was replaced by the ECE car engines power rules. The E28 M5 sold in the US had the same Motorsport engine fitted with a catalytic exhaust and were rated at 256 SAE hp. The 30 hp difference is due a little to the standard rules used to measure the engine power output and a lot to the catalytic exhaust system which caused a loss of around 30 hp to the engines fitted in the E28 M5 sold in the US..
Having only gotten into cars a few years ago, I'm not familiar with a lot of these older icons, but your channel is great for helping me get familiar with the classics! I love being able to understand their influences and see their evolutions in the modern day
Don’t even try to compare Bolsanaro to Trump. Brazil boy lost the election fair and square, meanwhile our election was completely illegitimate and the left wingers think they won but all they can do it cheat
If you like hearing about the stories and development of these cars, I'd highly recommend watching Jason Cammisa's various car shows on Hagerty and on Issimi before that
I've always loved the driver oriented center consoles in the older BMW's. These days, car makers are more worried about consumer reports that think the center console should be accessible to both driver and passenger, but I prefer the driver oriented ones.
Yes! Doug is back with old cars! And what a car, one you can feel, smell, hear and a lot of feedback and.....lot's of emotions. Not focused on lcd screens, luxury and self driving experience, but pure drive experience, and only focused on the ride. Love it!
My Uncle had one of these new back in 1986 and still owns it and drives it to this day! It has 156000km (a bit over 96000 Miles) on it. Had quite a few backseat drives in this with my Cousin back in the early 1990s and it spared my Love for Cars! Now i'm gonna send this Video to my Uncle and ask him if he learned anything new about his Car from Doug! I will update this Post with his Response about if he learned something from Doug he didn't know owning this Car since 1986! Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
@@divinehatred6021 You got to keep in Mind how small Germany is compared to the USA. A Car with 100000km is considered "a lot" in Germany, which is about 62000 miles. But true to be fair, owning it since 1986, he definitely didn't daily it. Was more of his Fun car for Weekend Trips but not to and from Work
One of my favorite m5's. E28's in general are one of the best bimmers for a more 'raw feel' driving experience. Makes me miss mine. Also owned an '83 533i that was my daily until a lady in a Ford exploder rear ended me doing like 40mph. As hard of a hit as it was the car still ran and drove the same! Didn't blow out any of the glass and both back doors still shut the same. That's a testament for how tough they are. mye28 folks are a good group of guys if you're interested in all things e28. That site and bf.c was my place to hang on the interwebz. LOL. Gotta love style 5's too. I had the 18" staggered set that I took apart and painstakingly polished, and added some fresh hardware to them. Put them on one of my e34 540/6 m-sports that I owned. Looked great on there, definitely a timeless wheel, as are most BBS.' Thanks for sharing. Clean example for sure! 👍👍💪✌️
The E28 is still impressive in terms of performance today, imagine what it would have been like in the 80s, and the design is timeless. So handsome and understated, subtly demonstrating it's potential.
One of the things that impresses regarding the engineering about the M30 engines in the 'cooking' E28's is that it produced 180-ish bhp without using an air pump OR an EGR.
The demist diagram shows the orientation of the rotary knobs. Max temp on left, max blower on right. Had one years ago, regretted selling it. I'm glad you recognise it as the first M5. Some forget this car ever existed.
Maybe the first official M5, but BMW South Africa had the first "unofficial" M car in the form of the 1976 530MLE (Motorsport Limited Edition) which won all 15 out of 15 races in its first season of racing. Only 110 made in year one out of a two year run. 🙂
I had an '88 E28 535i, with Dinan, Racing Dynamics, and Metric Mechanic mods. Absolutely fantastic car! One of my favorite things about my E28 was the Cruise Control. One simple stalk, and you could essentially drive the car through that stalk, it was so smooth and as Doug says, so analog. The other great feature that Doug touched upon was the E28's outward visibility. Low beltline, tall roof, you could see the whole world which contributed so much to the driving experience. Thanks for the look back, Doug!
This is one of my most favorite cars ever. One of my friends has one that he used to let me drive and it is pure driving bliss. My first BMW was an E28 528i Euro Spec car with the dogleg manual gearbox.
I absolutely love the climate control panel on the BMWs of this era. You get to choose precisely how much air you want from each and it always blows exactly the temperature you want. To this day I haven't found a car that is as good at drying wet shoes with warm air.
The Euro versions were amazing. More power, as you said, but looked badass. The had tiny bumpers and a combination of 7 and 5 and 3/4 inch headlights. if you saw those lights on the autobahn that meant you should take your Peugeot out of the left lane.
Thanks John! Americans cannot understand how beatifull the original (!!! not the US version) really was. Sometimes you can see this car in Munich still. Also the 850... Now BMW, Mercedes, Audi, they all look the same.
I love the 528. It was a great cruiser, comfortable and roomy. I owned a 88 Volvo 240 and my neighbor had a 88 BMW 528. He was a conservative driver. He knew I like driving, I also BMW motorcycle. I took out for a drive in the Italian mountains near our house and he was amazed how will it handled. My favorite BMW 2002.
An E28 owner watching Doug's finger get close to the Headrest adjustment button, "Oh no...." and then the shot of it moving, "Oooh no. But. Incredible, one of the final times that headrest will ever work."
I might be a little biased, due to the fact I own an E30 from the same era, but there’s nothing quite like the BMWs of the 1980‘s, timeless looks, a connected driving experience and just the looks on peoples faces when they see them rolling by. Videos like this make me appreciate my car even more than I do already, they don’t make them like they used to, I’d love to see more classic BMW reviews from Doug!
Awesome car and review Doug. Brings back memories of a neighbor's E28 (non M5) back in the early 1990s. Interesting how a 1980s BMW could let you know your tail light was out. My 1995 Avalon did the same, my 2002 Acura RL also did the same. Every newer car I've had since (most recently a 2016 CX5 and a 2014 Honda Crosstour) have lacked this important safety feature. Progress?
Used to drive a 535i from the same era, I remember the manual said "when you have all the power at your disposal, you can be courteous to other drivers". Don't blame BMW for BMW drivers!
My Dad bought the 1984 528e for my mom and 733i for him - and put a wooden BMW steering wheel on and added spoilers AND sheepskin seat covers (ha nice). I swear he was the first person ever hook up a car to make it look customized ha
Best video in a while, I love it when you do the old stuff! Used to work on a lot of these in the UK back in the day. They didn’t come with stereos alarms and immobilisers, so we used to fit them for BMW. This has long been my favourite of all the M cars.
A friend's father owned one of these back in 1992... had the pleasure of riding in it through some excellent country roads. Stunning in every way! And was the reason in 1993 I bought an '86 E28 535i Exec. Not as fast, and automatic, but still amazing to drive, as the Australian version came with the M5 wheels (not the ones on the car in the video) and wheel arches.
Others will chime in too, but the 'check' is to check that the bulbs were working. If your coolant was low, for example, the light would come on. Still cool.
My stepdad had a 1988 M5 when I was in high school. Used it as a daily driver. This is the car I learned how to drive a manual transmission in. It was so cool even though nobody really knew how special of a car it was. Good review Doug!
I remember seeing this on a top ten list for production cars worst MPG back in the day, and I also recall seeing Turbo Bentleys and Lamborghini LM002 on that same list and I thought, “Wow, and this is only a NA 3.5 six cylinder !”
Thank you Doug for this cool walk down BMW memory lane! I smiled to myself when you got to the air conditioning update/upgrade, as I was remembering how absolutely useless A/C was on my '87 635csi and '88 M6. I still find the E24s (along with the E28s) to be beautiful cars, and wonderfully distinctive, neither of which are feelings I get from modern BMWs. Cheers.
Whenever I look at the back of this fancy beast I remember the original Sentinel XS from GTA Vice City. The XS had the spoiler, rear window louvers and side skirts while the non XS model had zero modifications. Basically the M5 and the normal 5 series.
Dear Doug, Always loved this car, which is the first ''proper' or 'official' definition of the M formula. The M5. Aside from the M1, the true beginning of the M cars was also the e12 535i Motorsport ... which is my personal favorite. Just one of the trio would be my perfect collection already ...
I never appreciated BMW that much until I got into the 70s/80s era cars. Now I wish I had one. The E28 M5 is on my dream car list. I appreciate when Doug reviews the classics, though I know he says they're not his top performing videos.
Omg thank you for finally getting back to basics !!! This is what your viewers want to see. My first car as a 16 year old was a 93 bmw 740i. Great car great memories.
If I’m not mistaken, BMW started manufacturing the 750iL in 1987, which included a huge v12 with 295HP. I’d think it would take the crown as the most powerful sedan on the planet. That v12 was amazing, and later used in the McLaren F1.
These buttons to raise and lower the headrests - what an amazing idea. Obviously, not that practical, unless two people use the same car daily - one in the morning and one in the evening, and always need to change and adjust the seat. But it's cool and I think all cars should have it. I wouldn't guess this thing was done so many years ago. That's another thing for Doug to lower and raise for hours on the side of the road.
Definitely an iconic car. Although one could argue that shoving an unlikely performance engine In a mid size car is what started the muscle car movement in the mid 60s.
Ive been waiting for a Doug Demuro review of the legendary e28 since Ive been aware of him - and now I have it! I only have a mere 535i, but more people should know about these cars. absolutely incredible performance aand handling that holds up to modern cars today. Its like a german muscle car - love mine so much. Youre right, it is representative of a different era of carmaking - one that held man/machine in the highest esteem. And oh what style and aesthetic.... What have you done, modern BMW.... :(
Great moment! If never done, I would love to see the e23 745i review one day. Back when BMW was winning the Formula one championship with this kind of glorious engines. Thank you again Doug for reviewing this kind of cars.
A friend of mine had a e28 528i as his first car, sold it in 2009 for 11500sek or roughly 1000 dollars (very good contiditon).. That car was really something, this m5 must have been out of this world with 100 more horsepower then the 528. Writing this before ive watched the vid. Edit. We who hung out had these cars, Volvo 740 turbo, Bmw e30 318is, Bmw e28 and a Opel Omega 3000. The Omega was pretty dope tbh with the 24-valve 6cyl motor and digital dash.
Once again massive respect to Doug DeMuro for remembering his fanbase on reviewing these cool old quirky cars.
I agree, I love these older cars and their technologies.
Its cool till he review japan plastic cars
Doesn't pay the bills
omg roblox player 😭😭😂
@@thanosianthemadtitanic y'all forget he's just as interested in cars as us. Of course he was going to review this gem. By the way these type of videos pay the bills
Huge respect to Doug for not only reviewing new cars, what an icon of a car
he can’t always choose the cars, they are either press cars or viewers cars that need to be in good shape and nearby
This car came from a different era. Now we live in an era of sugar and salt. An era where 33% of Americans are obese and have giant chunks of fat hanging from their fuckin rib-cage.
Yeah we know that by now….
After 5 SUV videos in a row I’m happy to see him review an interesting car again 💪🏻
@@smartyexplorer135 This will never be the clip anyone is looking for.
Exactly. I personally don't even watch those videos.
Same here, I watch all of Doug’s videos I’m always excited to get the notification. But these are the type of reviews that spark that enthusiast passion
@@0thers1d3 I do watch the “generic” suv reviews but I will admit by the middle I’m usually barely listening & doing other stuff.
Yup, I haven't watch a Doug vid in weeks.
Ita either been new electric or new shit.
I remember as a kid in the early 90s driving through France with my dad. He had BMW from the same era. He saw an M5 behind us and pointed it out. I didn’t think anything of it, but I kept watching and then it just absolutely rocketed passed us! It was one of the coolest things I’d ever seen. I’ve been obsessed with them ever since!
The Check button in the roof Check Control is not for checking the statuses of all those sensors. The respective light would light up automatically whenever a problem was discovered and stay on till solved. Instead the Check button was used to check that all the red lights still worked so that a broken light bulb would not mislead the driver to believe there wasn't a problem in that source because it didn't turn on. German thoroughness...
My 1970 VW beetle had a simlar for the brake light. (or loss of break light). pushed it in to make sure the light worked.
This functionality comes from aviation. The master caution panel on top of the instrument cluster has a similar "check bulbs" button.
That's correct but not complete.
In case of a fault you have e blinking "check" light in the instrument cluster.
You'll have to clear that "check" with the check button.
Came here to write this.
@@michailangelopoulos5602 Makes sense, since BMW used to make Planes in the past.
With old cars in the manual for the car there were things like "to change the oil unscrew this cap" , "to maintain your transmission and dampers..." and they give you the tools to do it yourself
But today i wouldn't be surprised if I find "the coolant liquid is not drinkable"
The "mechanical stuff" trunk box is the battery location. It was moved there from a regular E28 front mount for better weight distribution. A neat feature.
The additional button by the front window switches is for the driver to lock out the rear windows for children.
The On Board Computer can also be operated directly by buttons for additional features. The Check Control will light up when there is an error, the Check button is just to test the bulbs.
The Euro engine actually has 286HP. The US S38 is still derived from the M1 engine, it still has individual throttle bodies so is quite special.
Rear headrests were optional on Euro spec cars, just decontented for the US.
Thank you for covering my favorite era of BMW, we need to see an E23 and E24 next!
Highly appreciate all these valuable information regarding a car from my era. I used to see them including the BMW E23 but neither had the chance to be in one of them nor find someone to give the information I needed to know as you posted them above. For me, I believe that BMW cars of that era were more BMW than the current ones. Thank you so much.
Thanks for pointing this out, was just about to comment myself. It’s a quirky car, but slightly less so if compared to pther BMWs of this era!
Correct, i had a base e28 a couple years ago, and an e24 now, the new owner needs to shell out a couple grand for some euro bumpers lol
Guess the coked up sweaty millionare guy with the undershirt didn't bother to do any research huh
The battery was also relocated to free space under the hood. Also, US cars used a 3.91 rear axle ratio (instead of the euro cars 3.73) to try to make up for the ~20% worse power to weight ratio of the NA car compared to the euro car. 3400 lbs/256 hp= 13.2 vs 3150 lbs/282 hp= 11.2. Euro cars had higher compression and used an equal length tubular header. US car had a cast iron exhaust manifold.
The importance of this car can not be understated. As Doug said it lead to arguably every single 4 door car with a badass power plant.
It was here that actual car companies realized they could market soup’d up versions of their lineup.
Buick Regal GNX and Ford Taurus SHO....are we a Joke to you!?
But many American cars did that already before the M5. It's a shame they don't get the credit they deserve and it's probably because it's not a German automaker
@@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 yeh. The sho yeah lol not the gnx tho
GNX yes because it was just a regal with a turbo V6
Yeah, right. Australia was doing this from the 1967 XR Ford Falcon GT and Mercedes from at least the 300SEL 6.3. Other countries also did similar things.
one of my uncles bought this car for 20k in 2004. I was just a kid then and knew nothing about cars, and I was so confused why he spent 20k to buy a really old car. It's worth about 50k now, but regardless, it's a great car that isn't often appreciated.
you really think others are remotely interested that your uncle supposdly had one huh? Wow
That was not the clip you were looking for.
>50k
>Isn't often appreciated
Not often appreciated?? Do you lack the internet? haha
$10k of that is inflation!
Please never stop reviewing old cars, I know new cars bring in the views and money but old cars are great to watch just to see the things they where doing back then and seeing this car, realize how ahead of its time it was
Good find sir.
I remember driving one of these several years ago. I wasn't too impressed by the performance. I was expecting more. The owner said, "Come back and truly push the car." I did and wow was it fun. They are amazing cars.
Thank you Doug for making this video and reminding me of how much fun these old cars are.
A few more quirks: The versions without AC had different dashboards, they werent even tilted to the driver. Only the m5 had the battery in the trunk because the airbox was in its place so they had to move it. The euro version had different headlight design, one larger and one smaller unit. The 524td with 115 hp was the fastest diesel in the world at that time.
Versions without A/C had the same dashboard but a different centre console, which was als tilted towards the driver.
Non A/C center console looks 10 times better, I deleted my A/C, rather roll the windows down and enjoy the M30 soundtrack.😁
Gorgeous M5. It needs the Euro bumpers so badly and a nice detailing. :)
@freepieanchipsgarage original M5 euro bumper. US safety regulations bring some plane ugly bumpers to this beautiful car
Yes!
@freepieanchipsgarage No its ugly :)
@freepieanchipsgarage The Euro bumpers ARE the original design.
@@smartyexplorer135 no it is not, spammer
Man, I was a teenager in the '80s -- in fact, this car was sold the day after my 17th birthday -- and I was so into BMWs at the time. They were all so cool, but this one -- wow! These '80s and '90s BMWs really bring back some great memories. I've always been a big fan of BMWs of this era.
At 16 years old I got a hand me down 1987 325. Still my favorite car I’ve ever owned.
@@realstory77 and here's the ratio we were looking for
Those bimmers have a way of staying with you (mentally). I still love my old 97 E38, drove like a dream.
@@solomonmarcus5496 Right on. My next was a 91 535. I love that car to
@@AGlimpseInside I still love that 5 series model to this day!!
Theres something about the 70's-80's BMW's that are just so unique, the styling is just so timeless.
Growing up just outside Toronto, my neighbor had one of these. He was a lovely gentleman from Quebec who spoke mostly French Canadian. He had a gold regular 5 series when he moved on to our street in 1986. He replaced that the following year with an M5 brought over from Europe to Quebec. It was somewhat common to find European cars in Quebec at that time. Now, I was always interested in cars as my dad was a car salesman but even back then I knew this car was something special. The bumpers on his car were much less intrusive and the car simply looked sinister. All black inside and out. I can't remember exactly what he did for a living, but he was much younger than my dad and we lived in the best neighborhood in town. And in those days, if you were French Canadian but the company decided to send you to Ontario to work... You were either a hockey player or a big deal. Claude had great taste and his wife was a total stunner. All this coming from my early teenage memory.
Insane to think this car is almost 40 years old!!!!
This car provides a better driving experience than most new stuff
Definitely, no artificial feel or electronic nannies to ruin the fun. These older BMWs made the driver feel so connected to the car.
No doubt. Older beemers are solid cars. Made in Germany.
I picked up my E34 M5 on Cars and Bids a year and a half ago and I still smile every time I see it! This motor really is something special and the E34 interior does such a good job of updating some of the awkward bits about the E28. If you’re ever in Nashville and want to give it a drive let me know! It’s 100% OEM
I have a mostly stock e34 525i in almost factory condition and man it would be crazy to see what the m5 is all about
next time i'm through nashville i'll hit you up brotha
@@julianc.6589 Pretty sure he was talking about Doug driving it, not random dudes on YT.
Cars and Bids? Doug how much is your overhead or money you get a "kick back" for Sir?
@@Moltenbramley Thinking that Doug actually reads these comments is even worse.
E39 and E28 M5s have to be the greatest M cars ever. How many cars do you see aged that well!
uhh try e36 and e30 m3?
e28 e34 and e39 are the best m5 ever.
don't leave out the e34 3.8l
@@papa_pt definitely dont leave out the e34. My favorite 5er
even if they just the plain E28 and E39’s are great
This car is the most pure representation of a 80s performance sedan. 💯
Whoever buys this E28 is one lucky guy! That car is beautiful and well-preserved! 😍 Additionally, having all the paperworks and records all the way from the time of purchase truly fascinates me!
and the mods are very nice.
there used to be a car like that....one of the worst cars ever....handling is quite floaty and heavy...weak engines start very quickly and the fuel consumption is of course cosmic....79 ford escort 1.6 rs is something special... one of the best old cars.. very accurate sharp badamib rear drive and liked dynamic and light.... another very good car is Renault 25 baccara V6 turbo, but it is front wheel drive and more luxury.. better done and a fast 80's car and there are many other interesting cars
I don't know what it is, but as I get older, I appreciate more and more cars that are from in and around the year of my birth. Genuinely think the mid to late 80s had some of the most beautiful, special cars of all time. This thing is gorgeous!
There is something special about late 80's and early 90's German cars. The way they drive, the way they feel, the way they sound....... It's something you just can't explain to someone else.
I had a 1990 bmw 535i and it was my favorite car ever... got it to 250k. I was a valet at a fancy place, I've driven everything. That old beemer was a masterpiece. You are correct sir.
@@bingload Even my old MKII GTI's and GLI's are something special. I've always got my eye out for a nice clean MKII or Corrado. I know those things inside and out. Suck easy vehicles to operate and maintain.
Yes there's something "solid" about them
@TickleFingers dude a corrado is amazing, get one while you can
I really didn’t expect him to review this one, I always wanted the E28 M5
@@realstory77 Spam
He will review every M, RS and AMG car eventually
why wouldn't he it's a legend
It's up for auction on Caaarrrss and Bids
This was a dream car of mine, graduated from engineering in 85, had a 320, rallied with the BMW club here in Toronto, saw when these came out, there was nothing like it at the time. Had 400E Merc with Sportline suspension loved it! Still have my 92 500 SL , old school, 73 Mach 1 and V8 Vantage. Love these old 5 series, drove several 528i, they were Panzers.
Finally a break from all those kitchen appliance videos Doug has been doing lately.
Undoubtedly one of the most gorgeous and important performance saloons ever made!
Living in Germany, it was pretty surprising how insanely expensive these old 3-series and 5-series are over here. Even the regular-engine 3’s and 5’s are WAAYY more expensive than they were in Texas
Es geht, in den Staaten werden eben nur größere Motoren angeboten der kleinste Bmw E30 war der 325i mit 170 ps. Und die Basisaustattung ist auch höher. Ledersitze, Klimaanlage gehören ebenfalls zur Grundausstattung.
In Deutschland sind Modelle mit einer Solchen Austattung direkt Sammler und Liebhaberfahrzeuge.
Der Nachteil in den USA ist, dass häufig günstigere Materialien verwendet wurden bsp Kunstleder anstatt echtes.
Ein weiterer großer Punkt ist dass die meisten Bmws mit Automatikgetriebe gebaut wurden. Alte Bmws mit Schaltgetriebe sind meist sogar viel teurer als in Deutschland.
i don't get that too, in US cars are cheaper.
That defogger thing: the two little circles with arrows actually tell you where to twist the left and right dials, which are temp and blower speed dials (Hi settings on both) to defog the windshield, they don't point to where to put the horizontal switches...
Had an ‘88 3 series and came to point that out as well!
Let's not forget the Lotus Carlton from the UK. A 4-seat saloon car with 377 HP. It caused quite a stir in 1990.
If anyone in the States has imported a (functional) Lotus Carlton or Omega I really hope they let Doug have a go in it.
@@Gordanovich02 There are 2 or 3 in states
@freepieanchipsgarage Quite correct, but I think it came before the Audi RS range.
@freepieanchipsgarage No stock BMW E34 is faster than a Lotus Omega, so that would be one strange record.
@freepieanchipsgarage I was around at that time. And yes, it indeed was electronically limited. Thats one of the reasons it could never be as fast as the Lotus Omega, so where did you get that "fact" from saying it was faster, I wonder?
Hello Doug, the E28 M5 sold in 1988 in the US were actually fitted with the same original Motorsport 3l5 24 valves engines as the other E28 M5 sold everywhere else. The ones without catalytic exhaust that were sold in Europe back then developped 286 DIN hp, DIN standing for Deutsches Institut für Normung or German Institute for Normalsation which edicted a standard way of measuring car engines power output that was used by all the european car companies except the british ones until 1992, when it was replaced by the ECE car engines power rules. The E28 M5 sold in the US had the same Motorsport engine fitted with a catalytic exhaust and were rated at 256 SAE hp. The 30 hp difference is due a little to the standard rules used to measure the engine power output and a lot to the catalytic exhaust system which caused a loss of around 30 hp to the engines fitted in the E28 M5 sold in the US..
Having only gotten into cars a few years ago, I'm not familiar with a lot of these older icons, but your channel is great for helping me get familiar with the classics! I love being able to understand their influences and see their evolutions in the modern day
Don’t even try to compare Bolsanaro to Trump. Brazil boy lost the election fair and square, meanwhile our election was completely illegitimate and the left wingers think they won but all they can do it cheat
If you like hearing about the stories and development of these cars, I'd highly recommend watching Jason Cammisa's various car shows on Hagerty and on Issimi before that
My friend’s brother had a 525e. BMWs of that era, particularly the 5 series, were magnificent.
I've always loved the driver oriented center consoles in the older BMW's. These days, car makers are more worried about consumer reports that think the center console should be accessible to both driver and passenger, but I prefer the driver oriented ones.
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Yes! Doug is back with old cars! And what a car, one you can feel, smell, hear and a lot of feedback and.....lot's of emotions. Not focused on lcd screens, luxury and self driving experience, but pure drive experience, and only focused on the ride. Love it!
Decades later, this is still a clean classic that should forever be remembered by the present & future generations
@Ernie H true...
Unlike japan plastic crap
@Ernie H true but definitely a unique car
I remember being a kid in the car and looking at that exhaust set up. Like wtf ? Fast forward I would love to own one ☝️ classic BMW 80s ❤ it
BMW mechanic buddy of mine had one just like this, but he put on the Euro bumpers which look SO much better than the clunky US spec
My Uncle had one of these new back in 1986 and still owns it and drives it to this day! It has 156000km (a bit over 96000 Miles) on it.
Had quite a few backseat drives in this with my Cousin back in the early 1990s and it spared my Love for Cars! Now i'm gonna send this Video to my Uncle and ask him if he learned anything new about his Car from Doug!
I will update this Post with his Response about if he learned something from Doug he didn't know owning this Car since 1986!
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
Here is the clip u been looking for:
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Seems like he wasnt driving it much, huh? Some people can get more Km on their cars in 5 years
@@divinehatred6021
You got to keep in Mind how small Germany is compared to the USA.
A Car with 100000km is considered "a lot" in Germany, which is about 62000 miles.
But true to be fair, owning it since 1986, he definitely didn't daily it. Was more of his Fun car for Weekend Trips but not to and from Work
@@divinehatred6021 u expected the OG M5 to be daily driven 😂😂
@@brian_jake It is a premium sedan, yes? Looks comfortable and reliable enough to be daily driven to me.
One of my favorite m5's. E28's in general are one of the best bimmers for a more 'raw feel' driving experience. Makes me miss mine. Also owned an '83 533i that was my daily until a lady in a Ford exploder rear ended me doing like 40mph. As hard of a hit as it was the car still ran and drove the same! Didn't blow out any of the glass and both back doors still shut the same. That's a testament for how tough they are. mye28 folks are a good group of guys if you're interested in all things e28. That site and bf.c was my place to hang on the interwebz. LOL. Gotta love style 5's too. I had the 18" staggered set that I took apart and painstakingly polished, and added some fresh hardware to them. Put them on one of my e34 540/6 m-sports that I owned. Looked great on there, definitely a timeless wheel, as are most BBS.' Thanks for sharing. Clean example for sure! 👍👍💪✌️
The E28 is still impressive in terms of performance today, imagine what it would have been like in the 80s, and the design is timeless. So handsome and understated, subtly demonstrating it's potential.
One of the things that impresses regarding the engineering about the M30 engines in the 'cooking' E28's is that it produced 180-ish bhp without using an air pump OR an EGR.
The demist diagram shows the orientation of the rotary knobs. Max temp on left, max blower on right.
Had one years ago, regretted selling it.
I'm glad you recognise it as the first M5. Some forget this car ever existed.
Clean, understated and elegant. Man, what’s happened to BMW? This is just about peak BMW (for me, at least).
Maybe the first official M5, but BMW South Africa had the first "unofficial" M car in the form of the 1976 530MLE (Motorsport Limited Edition) which won all 15 out of 15 races in its first season of racing. Only 110 made in year one out of a two year run. 🙂
Finally! A non SUV review!
SUV is still better than EV
I had an 87 535i. Loved it. The M was always a dream. Just a great car.
I had an '88 E28 535i, with Dinan, Racing Dynamics, and Metric Mechanic mods. Absolutely fantastic car! One of my favorite things about my E28 was the Cruise Control. One simple stalk, and you could essentially drive the car through that stalk, it was so smooth and as Doug says, so analog. The other great feature that Doug touched upon was the E28's outward visibility. Low beltline, tall roof, you could see the whole world which contributed so much to the driving experience. Thanks for the look back, Doug!
Older BMWs were just nicer, owned most of them and still have an E30. But I loved my E28s.
This is one of my most favorite cars ever. One of my friends has one that he used to let me drive and it is pure driving bliss. My first BMW was an E28 528i Euro Spec car with the dogleg manual gearbox.
This was a favorite of mine growing up. It's design is timeless!
Yes sir!!
@@realstory77 Nobody cares
you think others came here hoping to find out what your favorite car is huh?
@@slowery43 And you think others care what your troll opinion is?
I've been waiting for AGES for you to review the E28 M5, thank you so much.
I absolutely love the climate control panel on the BMWs of this era. You get to choose precisely how much air you want from each and it always blows exactly the temperature you want. To this day I haven't found a car that is as good at drying wet shoes with warm air.
Yes Lord!!! This was THE car, a friend of the family got this brand new and all I could do was stare at it.
Iconic and probably my favorite 5 series BMW (:
5:24 the oldschool car squeek🔥🔥🔥🔥 Nothing gets better than that😊
The Euro versions were amazing. More power, as you said, but looked badass. The had tiny bumpers and a combination of 7 and 5 and 3/4 inch headlights. if you saw those lights on the autobahn that meant you should take your Peugeot out of the left lane.
Here is the clip u been looking for:
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Thanks John! Americans cannot understand how beatifull the original (!!! not the US version) really was. Sometimes you can see this car in Munich still. Also the 850... Now BMW, Mercedes, Audi, they all look the same.
Those were the days you can buy v12 7 series with stick
I love the 528. It was a great cruiser, comfortable and roomy. I owned a 88 Volvo 240 and my neighbor had a 88 BMW 528. He was a conservative driver. He knew I like driving, I also BMW motorcycle. I took out for a drive in the Italian mountains near our house and he was amazed how will it handled. My favorite BMW 2002.
Doug I think a crossfire srt6 would be a great find to review. Great video as always
The Crossfire was an ultimate failure, but still it looked beautiful. (The share was from the Mercedes-Benz R170 SLK)
@@brianlee9233 anyone asking for this review knows that...
An E28 owner watching Doug's finger get close to the Headrest adjustment button, "Oh no...." and then the shot of it moving, "Oooh no. But. Incredible, one of the final times that headrest will ever work."
Where it all began 😍
I might be a little biased, due to the fact I own an E30 from the same era, but there’s nothing quite like the BMWs of the 1980‘s, timeless looks, a connected driving experience and just the looks on peoples faces when they see them rolling by.
Videos like this make me appreciate my car even more than I do already, they don’t make them like they used to, I’d love to see more classic BMW reviews from Doug!
Awesome car and review Doug. Brings back memories of a neighbor's E28 (non M5) back in the early 1990s. Interesting how a 1980s BMW could let you know your tail light was out. My 1995 Avalon did the same, my 2002 Acura RL also did the same. Every newer car I've had since (most recently a 2016 CX5 and a 2014 Honda Crosstour) have lacked this important safety feature. Progress?
Just got an 87 528e 5 speed. More then grateful I was able to find one.
Making money is an action.Keeping money is behavior,but"Growing money is wisdom"...I figured this out a week ago
When I think Doug has reviewed every cool iconic car he shows a great one. Huge props to Doug for not doing only new cars.
Used to drive a 535i from the same era, I remember the manual said "when you have all the power at your disposal, you can be courteous to other drivers". Don't blame BMW for BMW drivers!
I think out of any BMW of any era, this is the one that I would like to have. This era 5 series is my favourite four-door BMW style.
My Dad bought the 1984 528e for my mom and 733i for him - and put a wooden BMW steering wheel on and added spoilers AND sheepskin seat covers (ha nice). I swear he was the first person ever hook up a car to make it look customized ha
Best video in a while, I love it when you do the old stuff! Used to work on a lot of these in the UK back in the day. They didn’t come with stereos alarms and immobilisers, so we used to fit them for BMW. This has long been my favourite of all the M cars.
Funny owner trade the C4 Corvette, and pay up for M5 E28. Great choice and great guy.
A friend's father owned one of these back in 1992... had the pleasure of riding in it through some excellent country roads. Stunning in every way! And was the reason in 1993 I bought an '86 E28 535i Exec. Not as fast, and automatic, but still amazing to drive, as the Australian version came with the M5 wheels (not the ones on the car in the video) and wheel arches.
Others will chime in too, but the 'check' is to check that the bulbs were working. If your coolant was low, for example, the light would come on. Still cool.
My stepdad had a 1988 M5 when I was in high school. Used it as a daily driver. This is the car I learned how to drive a manual transmission in. It was so cool even though nobody really knew how special of a car it was. Good review Doug!
Major props Doug for spreading original iconic car culture for the community.🙌🏾
I remember seeing this on a top ten list for production cars worst MPG back in the day, and I also recall seeing Turbo Bentleys and Lamborghini LM002 on that same list and I thought, “Wow, and this is only a NA 3.5 six cylinder !”
Thank you Doug for this cool walk down BMW memory lane! I smiled to myself when you got to the air conditioning update/upgrade, as I was remembering how absolutely useless A/C was on my '87 635csi and '88 M6. I still find the E24s (along with the E28s) to be beautiful cars, and wonderfully distinctive, neither of which are feelings I get from modern BMWs. Cheers.
Whenever I look at the back of this fancy beast I remember the original Sentinel XS from GTA Vice City. The XS had the spoiler, rear window louvers and side skirts while the non XS model had zero modifications. Basically the M5 and the normal 5 series.
19:57 the rotation speed of the wheels of the bmw in the background matches up with the fps of the camera, suddenly they "stop" spinning 😀 looks cool
My favourite BMW ever. Nothing can top the timeless unmistakable design of the E28.
I ain't never ever seen a more beautiful look through on a car period.
Even with those cloth hanging bumpers it's a great looking car. Cant imagine what it has become. Thanks for sharing.👍👍
What a car and what a time to be alive in 80's...
Street viewed the original owners address and just imagined this beauty sitting on the driveway in the 80's.
Dear Doug,
Always loved this car, which is the first ''proper' or 'official' definition of the M formula. The M5. Aside from the M1, the true beginning of the M cars was also the e12 535i Motorsport ... which is my personal favorite. Just one of the trio would be my perfect collection already ...
I never appreciated BMW that much until I got into the 70s/80s era cars. Now I wish I had one. The E28 M5 is on my dream car list. I appreciate when Doug reviews the classics, though I know he says they're not his top performing videos.
Only the M5 had the hump in the truck. Not the other 5 series. This was because they moved the battery to the back to improve weight distribution.
Omg thank you for finally getting back to basics !!! This is what your viewers want to see. My first car as a 16 year old was a 93 bmw 740i. Great car great memories.
If I’m not mistaken, BMW started manufacturing the 750iL in 1987, which included a huge v12 with 295HP. I’d think it would take the crown as the most powerful sedan on the planet. That v12 was amazing, and later used in the McLaren F1.
These buttons to raise and lower the headrests - what an amazing idea. Obviously, not that practical, unless two people use the same car daily - one in the morning and one in the evening, and always need to change and adjust the seat. But it's cool and I think all cars should have it. I wouldn't guess this thing was done so many years ago.
That's another thing for Doug to lower and raise for hours on the side of the road.
I've been wanting to get an E28 for a while, I'm not really a bmw guy but the E28 is one of my favorites
Definitely an iconic car. Although one could argue that shoving an unlikely performance engine In a mid size car is what started the muscle car movement in the mid 60s.
Ive been waiting for a Doug Demuro review of the legendary e28 since Ive been aware of him - and now I have it! I only have a mere 535i, but more people should know about these cars. absolutely incredible performance aand handling that holds up to modern cars today. Its like a german muscle car - love mine so much. Youre right, it is representative of a different era of carmaking - one that held man/machine in the highest esteem. And oh what style and aesthetic.... What have you done, modern BMW.... :(
That era of BMW is legendary.
The way I get excited hearing there are “lots of quirks and features” 👏
Great moment! If never done, I would love to see the e23 745i review one day. Back when BMW was winning the Formula one championship with this kind of glorious engines. Thank you again Doug for reviewing this kind of cars.
Any car from the 60’s with a High Output 427: “Please Hold My Beer!!🍺 “
Why do I love the off center exhaust so much?
A friend of mine had a e28 528i as his first car, sold it in 2009 for 11500sek or roughly 1000 dollars (very good contiditon).. That car was really something, this m5 must have been out of this world with 100 more horsepower then the 528. Writing this before ive watched the vid.
Edit. We who hung out had these cars, Volvo 740 turbo, Bmw e30 318is, Bmw e28 and a Opel Omega 3000. The Omega was pretty dope tbh with the 24-valve 6cyl motor and digital dash.
I love when you review these old BMW's. So freaking cool to see.
I can still remember the smell of my 1985 535i when looking at the interior footage
I only knew of this car because of the GT-R R32's goal to 1-up it. Glad that Doug covered this car.