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  • @TierZoo
    @TierZoo  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4707

    Hey everyone, I finally made some merch! TierZoo pins, mugs, and t-shirts are now available at standard.tv/collections/tierzoo
    The pins turned out INSANELY well, check them out!

    • @moiramain2k
      @moiramain2k 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      TierZoo do one with extinct animals from the ice age such as mammoths saber tooth cats and ride wolfs

    • @Seranov
      @Seranov 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The pin is awesome. Bought one to wear on my lanyard at work. Keep up the great work!

    • @freddiesimmons1394
      @freddiesimmons1394 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      TZ, you have to do an addendum where you balance the numbers. How about, say 600 rats?

    • @user-ro9zf9kz1h
      @user-ro9zf9kz1h 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      sorry just asking if the humans weapon is not limited what will you chose then, assuming you could chose where to fight and you are also armed,besides no ammo limit and i will have preparing time about 3 to 4 hours. in that case i will chose human and eagle i will arm the human with 50 cal machine gun and i will arm my self with grenade launcher assume i will chose a island which is 1 km from shore, animals need to cross the water i will quickly setup a MG nest and i will have a small platform to observe situation.
      first i could clearly see the surroundings and call the MG to dispatch the larger animal from 1 km distance the eagle will harassed the rats crossing the open water, the crocodile have to go on land to attack me but will be mow down by machine gun fire .
      i will try and shoot the rat pack once distance close to 400 meters which will quickly kill them because of the shock wave produce my the impacting grenade but also the frags.
      when the distance closed up to 100 m there will be no large animals left but only rats at this time the eagle will start to attack them and also backup with MG and grenade launcher.
      this process will grind the enemies man power to zero and so i win

    • @DinoSuperCool
      @DinoSuperCool 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "gorillas wont be much use without a clear battle plan since they cant use tactics" - " the eagles will look out for the hunter and go for everyones eyes while 200per enemy will swarm the blinded enemies"

  • @David9413
    @David9413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10473

    The idea of being some mercenary hunter type having been hired by some weird eccentric millionaire to participate in a competitive manhunt, hunting alongside trained gorillas and lions, only to be swarmed by literal thousands of rats is the best mental image provided by this.

    • @slothymango
      @slothymango 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      😂😂

    • @endslayer5133
      @endslayer5133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +572

      Bruh imagine getting dive bombed by eagles defending your eyes then something small starts climbing your leg more and more come and you realize those are rats but seconds later your fully submerged in rats

    • @theherooffire007
      @theherooffire007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +178

      Pretty sure The Rock would sign up for that movie. He's made very similar ones already, lmao.

    • @theskull9960
      @theskull9960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Man human should be on B or at least also put wolves on A with human

    • @dinamosflams
      @dinamosflams 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      This need to be a story

  • @Zinnshady
    @Zinnshady 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10654

    Watching an army of rats slowly devour a live bear would be pretty horrific now that you mention it

    • @HansenDing
      @HansenDing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +298

      Yeah assuming you can actually control and coordinate all your animals you'd only need like...5000 rats to devour the bears. And then you gotta find something to do with your other 5000 rats....

    • @chocodono2146
      @chocodono2146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +561

      Hansen Ding do you know how much 5000 is? They could kill the bear with only 200

    • @bucktoothbill5334
      @bucktoothbill5334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +173

      @@chocodono2146 probably less

    • @tarod3
      @tarod3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Lion they have low hp and the bear has a thick hide. And you want him to die outright, not days later. I’d say at least 1000 per bear or you’ll run out of rats before you fight the gators.

    • @cubiusblockus3973
      @cubiusblockus3973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Rats being high tier choice is a bit of a joke. Watch some ratting vids on youtube. small jack russels kill hundreds of them within hours.
      Wolves plus human is the best choice using hit and run tactics. Both have the highest stamina in the game, the wolves can distract and meat wall for the human to pick off the biggests threats like bears, lions and bulls which have the highest burst speed and damage output.
      which leaves the eagles(harrassers but weak AF), crocs(big hitters but slow AF), Gorillas(big hitters but slow AF) and rats(low hitters but swarming and slow).
      Id personally try the leave the rats for last. 15 wolves would make short work of 10,000 rats....
      Every fight must be hit and run.

  • @GodKnowsWhatIsInHere
    @GodKnowsWhatIsInHere 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2891

    I like how arguably a much bigger factor in this isn't "who would you want on your team?", but rather "who would you want to NOT be on the enemy team?"

    • @Stormwern
      @Stormwern 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      I think rats are a weak choice, being slower than the VIP make them no threat at all. I'd take eagles and wolves.

    • @ole9779
      @ole9779 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +292

      @@Stormwern except, rats are faster

    • @AntVaz7
      @AntVaz7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +191

      @@Stormwern Have you SEEN rats or eagles? Rats are only topped by probably Lions and Wolfs in speed and maybe Cattle but they have insane acceleration and their top speed is faster than most candidates in this list so Rats would be pretty OP

    • @en4833
      @en4833 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

      Guys, I looked it up. A rat's top speed is eight miles per hour. Everything on this list can run faster than a rat with the exception of the crocodile. And even the croc can run faster in short bursts.

    • @AntVaz7
      @AntVaz7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@en4833 that is probably true but even so a rat or eagle would be harder to catch, so much so that big animals couldn’t do anything to them

  • @a199719971997
    @a199719971997 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1430

    Also, just imagine if this battle did not have a time limit. If you hide and wait for 3 months, you triple your rat count.

    • @brianstabile165
      @brianstabile165 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

      It also doesn’t have a location thing so have the human lock himself in a metal box with a slit

    • @bvoros361
      @bvoros361 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +187

      @@brianstabile165 hopefully the snail couldnt get in

    • @Nico_com_c
      @Nico_com_c 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      ​@@bvoros361Now, that's a golden rare reference

    • @logantrashh7781
      @logantrashh7781 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      ​@@Nico_com_cnot really rare anymore. But at one point yes

    • @Nico_com_c
      @Nico_com_c 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@logantrashh7781 It kinda is, the trend died very fast so not a lot of people would remember by now. 21st century attention span.

  • @RealRabidRabbit
    @RealRabidRabbit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18488

    Imagine being a hunter, sent into a battlefield to kill one person with your rifle, then you’re ambushed by 10,000 rats and 50 hawks at the same time

    •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +782

      Truly tragic.

    • @fred_derf
      @fred_derf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +578

      Just how do you go about getting 10,000 rats and 50 hawks to coordinate an attack?

    • @nocthemedic2951
      @nocthemedic2951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1541

      @@fred_derf the meme says that they will protect you. This implies that they're going to attack the other group of animals. While they may or may not be the best with coordination is irrelevant

    • @zekailim2546
      @zekailim2546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +724

      No, you will see one hawk at best, get blinded by it and then eaten alive by something you can't see.

    • @blanca-borb
      @blanca-borb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +328

      @@zekailim2546 *Confused screaming*

  • @HF06
    @HF06 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3369

    Everybody gangsta until Ratatouille and his 9 999 cousins charge at you

    • @human-pl7pt
      @human-pl7pt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +168

      the rat name be Remy

    • @SC-ce3vp
      @SC-ce3vp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@human-pl7pt that's the joke

    • @cococop6679
      @cococop6679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@SC-ce3vp No it wasn’t

    • @grandm6070
      @grandm6070 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@human-pl7pt Its funnier that way

    • @SC-ce3vp
      @SC-ce3vp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@cococop6679 I see, it wasn't.

  • @maeglin9041
    @maeglin9041 ปีที่แล้ว +906

    Swarming is a game-breaking ability. Every build that can team up with hundreds, or thousands of it's kindis OP. A swarm of locusts was one of the 10 plagues of Egypt, a swarm of ants can reduce a body to bones in a couple hours, a stampede of wildebeast killed Mufasa.

    • @imbaby5499
      @imbaby5499 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      Yep. Swarming is extremely hard, if not impossible, to balance because how chaotic the relation between number of minions and their effectiveness can be.

    • @DaTimmeh
      @DaTimmeh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@imbaby5499Just like how a 1v2 in a fight is practically impossible without a major advantage in fight iq and athleticism.

    • @rjhogan07
      @rjhogan07 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DaTimmeh
      This. One statistic I’ve heard tossed around is that if you are going on the offensive against any sort of position that give the defender an advantage, it is a melee only fight, and things like equipment are all roughly equal, you want to outnumber the defender three to one at minimum - that way, even the top-tier defenders get outnumbered and taken down, simply because the third guy can kill the defender while he’s busy blocking, dodging, or pulling the weapon he just used to kill the first two attackers out of their bodies; note that such an occurrence is down to RNG and the attackers still can get kills in two on one and even one on one scenarios, it’s just that three is the minimum for eliminating at LOT of statistical variability in this scenario. This numerical advantage proceeds to snowball and help overcome the defensive buffs the defenders receive from terrain, letting the attackers win.
      Note, again, this is with roughly equal equipment on both sides, with the combatants being at minimum roughly average examples of the human species. Results will change when accounting for:
      non-human stat pools (stuff like goblins, elves, and dragons complicate the meta massively, as does the magic such races usually come with)
      Strategic maneuvers (collapsing numerous walls via undermining or siege weapons removes a lot of the defenders buffs, as does making bridges over moats and pits).
      And RANGED ATTACKS change the equation completely, as the possibility of witiling the other side down before a melee battle happens shifts numbers in unpredictable ways, with the defenders being able to remove the attackers number advantage with enough time, and the attackers being able to reduce the number of buffed up defenders they need to cut through to get the win.

    • @muguly4591
      @muguly4591 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Climate change:I'm bouta end this man's whole career.

    • @nlluke5207
      @nlluke5207 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@imbaby5499 human with flamethrower OP

  • @anomaly7853
    @anomaly7853 ปีที่แล้ว +429

    The rats always immediately appeared to me as the most valuable option. Ten thousand is so much larger than every other group size that it almost seems like a joke.

    • @MrLuzakman
      @MrLuzakman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rats stall while hunter carries

    • @The-E-Guy
      @The-E-Guy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MrLuzakman nah rats will also kill the animals

    • @Ronald1324
      @Ronald1324 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But if bulls, bears, and lions wanted to run through them to get to the person they would easily get past them.

    • @MrLuzakman
      @MrLuzakman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Ronald1324 Bulls ues, others not so much. 10k is A LOT of rats. Also would depend on prep time (lol)

    • @jout738
      @jout738 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrLuzakman
      You ever seen rats smother and kill bear in group of hundreds. I have not, because they dont do that, when are scared of anything that is bigger, than they themselves are. What weapons even rats have, when they have only mouth for eating small insects, while ants have the sting to hurt you, if you make them mad.

  • @ed3948
    @ed3948 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45987

    I dont think the person who made this understands how large 10,000 is

    • @lennoxhawkis6697
      @lennoxhawkis6697 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1951

      True but a bull could just run though them and just crush them slowly but surely and they would not be able to do anything to stop that

    • @rolandocarlosmanuel708
      @rolandocarlosmanuel708 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5198

      Lenfox420 LOAF Maybe if the bull weren’t fighting at least a hundred rats at once, that might work, but crushing a few in its way wouldn’t kill more than a few dozen in a few minutes.
      That and well collectively a few hundred rats are going to start weighing a lot when they’re able to cling on to any animal, which will immobilise the target to allow for easy attacks on the eyes and digging into skin.

    • @satrioekowicaksono7452
      @satrioekowicaksono7452 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5678

      @@lennoxhawkis6697 u clearly still doesn't understand how many 10000 rats is.

    • @impulsiveDecider
      @impulsiveDecider 5 ปีที่แล้ว +940

      @@lennoxhawkis6697 they will be exhausted after quite some time also he has to look up to face some of the birds too

    • @solwen
      @solwen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2243

      You could put all the other choices against them and they would still win. 10 000 frenzied rats are just an unstoppable tide of razor teeth. And if you give them the "Black plague" or "Warpstone" status it's just gg.

  • @timstolwijkts
    @timstolwijkts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2881

    Okay hear me out: airdropping 100 rats with the eagles after taking the sniper

    • @DaDrewinz
      @DaDrewinz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +201

      lmao cue the mission impossible soundtrack.

    • @lnvalidm8991
      @lnvalidm8991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      nothing says they will work together lmao the eagles will just fly them back to the nest and eat em

    • @axelpetersson5787
      @axelpetersson5787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +271

      @@lnvalidm8991 do you not understand what a hypothetical scenario is?

    • @wallywallendo
      @wallywallendo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes

    • @hasuoka
      @hasuoka 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@axelpetersson5787 i dont think he does...

  • @user-mg5ip7rn2k
    @user-mg5ip7rn2k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    I feel like being able to command 50 eagles and 10000 rats would be absolutely badass

  • @ampersandellipsis747
    @ampersandellipsis747 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    You can also make the eagles pick up your rats to throw at enemies further away before the ealges go for the eyes, causing a first wave of dropped rats to disrupt the enemy before your giant rat wave hits.

    • @TheSoullessImmortal
      @TheSoullessImmortal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Assuming one eagle can carry one rat in each of their talons, this means that 100 rats will be dropped onto the enemies before the remaining 9,900 moves in.
      Since there’s a total of 35 enemies, that means each of them will be disrupted by nearly 3 rats. This won’t do much, but adding the eagles, now each enemy is dealing with 3 rats and at least 1 eagle. Some will have to deal with multiple eagles at the same time.

    • @randomuser9482
      @randomuser9482 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      paratrooper rats

    • @AlexiosTheSixth
      @AlexiosTheSixth 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Someone should make an RTS game about this tbh

    • @user-iv5wm6bj8f
      @user-iv5wm6bj8f 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TheSoullessImmortal 3 rats it's a minumum of a kg

    • @user-iv5wm6bj8f
      @user-iv5wm6bj8f 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And almost 2 at most

  • @Digimodify
    @Digimodify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3720

    Finally, justification for my team entirely composed of Pidgy and Rattata

    • @suryanshbiswas
      @suryanshbiswas ปีที่แล้ว +57

      not pidgy but starapter

    • @M4x_P0w3r
      @M4x_P0w3r ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@suryanshbiswas Not Staraptor, but Braviary

    • @Real_Tower_Pizza
      @Real_Tower_Pizza ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@M4x_P0w3r not braviary but flygon

    • @i.love.mrbudgell
      @i.love.mrbudgell ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Charizard?

    • @obiwancannoli1920
      @obiwancannoli1920 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@Real_Tower_Pizza not flygon, there's only one true bird for this
      V U L L A B Y

  • @El_Omar2203
    @El_Omar2203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10546

    I knew the rats and eagles were the best ones. Though there's a big lack of the "eagle throw rat" strategy.

    • @sugoha_2548
      @sugoha_2548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1233

      Rat dropping eagles would indeed be terrifying

    • @nate-bc9zw
      @nate-bc9zw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1047

      So that’s what they mean when they say “airborne plague”

    • @alvinip9128
      @alvinip9128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +254

      lol rat meteors

    • @richardlooch2109
      @richardlooch2109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      i think the human and the rats would be best. if you give the human a shotgun with birdshot and a large caliber rifle then he can take out the eagles with the shotgun and then transition to his stopping rifle to assist the rats in taking out some of the tougher animals.

    • @urmamafarting8101
      @urmamafarting8101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +274

      @@richardlooch2109 what you said makes sense but then again in the picture the human is seen with a bolt action rifle and it wasn't specified that we can alter their weaponry

  • @joshuaweaverdm9571
    @joshuaweaverdm9571 ปีที่แล้ว +432

    The rats are a puzzle to be sure, but if you just have the 50 eagles carry you away you should be able to evade capture nearly indefinitely. That way you can choose the other human so you won't get lonely...

    • @mikadosannoji553
      @mikadosannoji553 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      you gotta choose the human or else he shoots you down while the eagles carry you, also what about the eagle claws piercing you? unless you got a lot of clothing on yourself

    • @macacopedreiro214
      @macacopedreiro214 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      bonus points if it's a female human

    • @Sircoochie
      @Sircoochie ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@mikadosannoji553the rats form a wall obscuring the human while they send out rat assassins to take care of it

    • @uglahboi6074
      @uglahboi6074 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Sircoochie😂 dude just disregarded the rats int stat

    • @Hotobu
      @Hotobu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      This is so stupid. 50 eagles occupy a LOT of surface area, they wouldn't be able to all grab a piece of the human, AND have room to take off.

  • @davidschaftenaar6530
    @davidschaftenaar6530 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    It all hinges on the degree of control you have over your defenders. The rats of course are a mandatory choice, no matter what... But unless you are able to direct the eagles to preemptively attack the human as a specific target, then the human will probably escape the eagles attention until it is too late.

    • @slipknot95maggot
      @slipknot95maggot 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ...........? Did you scroll back up to look at the numbers again before you said that....? Rats aren't the only populated choice, there are 50 of those birds. If you also picked the rats there are only 45 other combatants total. You're assuming the birds will just attack any old thing which is fine to assume, except there are more birds than every other non rat choice combined sssoooooooooooooooo............ are you assuming birds tend to attack in groups....? Do you think two birds are going to go Goku Freeza in the ToP and dive at the eyes of an animal in tandem....? If the human is a legit proshot gunslinger than it's possible they get you two seconds after the match starts no matter what happens, but assuming you have even a few solid moments before they can target you either because of terrain, starting locations or old poor condition weapon [or a few seconds of "alright let's g- holy sh!t that's a lot of rats"], it's pretty reasonable to assume that one of those birds is going to find it's way to the human in WELL under a minute from start time. There are 50 of them. And none of the remaining opponents are even animals particularly good at attacking aerial opponents, though a few are certainly large enough to shrug off any slashes that aren't to critical body parts, so it's not even like their numbers are going to drop quickly, you're going to have 50 birds for at least a little while unless a bear gets a lucky timed swipe or the human gets one or two good shots tops (in which case you started with 5 more birds than opponents anyway)
      As far as I can tell "they will defend you" implies a supernatural degree of understanding of the task at hand from the animals but not that you have full on conscious control over them or else why not say they are under your command or something, "they will defend you" implies they know you're the objective and they are willing to lay their life down for you but it does nothing to imply they can take your commands. So as far as I can tell the answer to that is no. ...but again, there are 50 birds. Who cares.? There is one bird for every other combatant at the start of the match plus five extra birds. The human is getting targeted early game just by sheer maths, my dude. To be clear yea obviously this is all headcanon and anything could happen. ...But it's 50 birds v 45 other animals. ....All of those other animals are getting attacked early by a bird no matter what you do brah

    • @The_Darke_Lorde
      @The_Darke_Lorde 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Let's assume the rats'll just swarm anything in their way, but you can perform specific general commands, like have all the eagles target the human first.
      Even without that, the human still wouldn't have enough skill, even as a Navy SEAL, to defend against FIFTY EAGLES

    • @frankglynn8209
      @frankglynn8209 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Also depends on how far the human is from the VIP as at some ranges or views he could instantly take them out

  • @RoboLamp
    @RoboLamp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1620

    The UI has gotten ridiculously fantastic over the episodes! The way the lines open up and stats rise doesn't go unnoticed!

    • @XxSmoothGroovexX
      @XxSmoothGroovexX 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Robo Lamp ultra instinct?

    • @aForkfulOfGold
      @aForkfulOfGold 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      User Interface

    • @pedrotalons1422
      @pedrotalons1422 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Ironicaly it went unnoticed for me until you pointed it out

    • @nesano4735
      @nesano4735 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      KA KA KA KA KACHI DAZE

  • @usagi2934
    @usagi2934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2866

    imagine getting your eyes blinded by an eagle and as you're covering your eyes you feel a thousand rats covering up your thighs

    • @solcoreoceltrale4578
      @solcoreoceltrale4578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      Also the eagles could take the gun then give it to you. Know you have 10,000 rats 50 eagles AND a ranged insta kill weapon, yes everyone can dodge but they will also be stuck in the rats so you can shoot them

    • @m3lvn415
      @m3lvn415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@solcoreoceltrale4578 you misunderstood. The human with the gun is not the target. He is just an option like the other animals. Rewatch it.

    • @Zaire82
      @Zaire82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      @@m3lvn415 There's no indication that they misunderstood.
      In practice it's almost the same anyway.
      1 human + gun and all the other animals vs 1 human + 10,000 rats and 50 Eagles.
      The remaining animals won't be protecting the armed human, but they're on the same team.

    • @m3lvn415
      @m3lvn415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Zaire82 there is also no indication that you know how to use a gun. Maybe you're aim accuracy is 10%, if you know how to shoot. No matter what option is chosen, its a lost. And 1000 rats cant stop raging bulls and bears. This is not anime.

    • @Zaire82
      @Zaire82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@m3lvn415 What are you on about?
      1000 rats is like a sea of rodents. They'd scare off anything with eyes or ears. They could literally gnaw off their flesh and bone faster than they could move. Rats are terrifyingly omnivorous.
      Plus, regardless of whether I'm used to using a gun or not, 10% accuracy is better than 0%, with no gun at all.

  • @thetrickster4899
    @thetrickster4899 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Rats and Eagles all day, just by virtue of swarming.
    People will assume that 10,000 rats and 50 eagles can't coordinate, it's also safe to say that the enemies wouldn't either, but I think it's safer to assume that it will be some sort of battle considering the nature of the question. You will be defended, and the rest will be coming to attack.
    I'll take my chances with the swarming strat. Always worked for me in games.

  • @benjaminbaer9712
    @benjaminbaer9712 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Honestly, eagles and rats are the only viable option on most terrains. They would both be impossible to fight, so you need them on your team. The eagles could probably just claw everyone's eyes out, allowing the rats to eat them.

    • @jjbarajas5341
      @jjbarajas5341 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well that's a good point. Also, horrific.

  • @jomsies
    @jomsies ปีที่แล้ว +6141

    You just have to farm at the first 30 minutes of the game as human and buy the nuclear set during the late game.

    • @Corperate3DAnimatedGuy
      @Corperate3DAnimatedGuy ปีที่แล้ว +72

      The Human would give me emotional control :)

    • @jeffreygao3956
      @jeffreygao3956 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nukes get banned; Restrict to 18th century technology levels.

    • @VelociraptorWithInternet
      @VelociraptorWithInternet ปีที่แล้ว +174

      I know the cheat code. Play as the human, pick the 50 eagles and 10 crocodiles/5 gorillas. Now, pick the Crazy Cat Lady class which allows you to equip unlimited cats, allowing you to kill every rat.

    • @spudo6
      @spudo6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VelociraptorWithInternetu ain’t a human tho

    • @VelociraptorWithInternet
      @VelociraptorWithInternet ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@spudo6 why not?

  • @scottgrey3337
    @scottgrey3337 ปีที่แล้ว +4308

    The thing about "200 rats per combant" is that it'll quickly become " *at least* 200 rats per combatant." Each enemy that falls is going to leave rats to reinforce all the other rat gangs, and even the *very* implausible casualty rat of 50% still leaves an extra hundred rats to help.
    Not only would the attacker's best animals have to beat 200 rats, which already feels impossible, they'll have to pick up the slack for everyone else. And I think it's quicker for 200 rats to beat one animal than vice versa, so have fun with those swarm tactics.

    • @necromancedkoatle2727
      @necromancedkoatle2727 ปีที่แล้ว +291

      Please tell me “casualty rat” was intentional

    • @omnitroph1501
      @omnitroph1501 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@necromancedkoatle2727 Does it matter?

    • @SSGeorgie
      @SSGeorgie ปีที่แล้ว

      You can run from rats at least. Bears, bulls, wolves, and lions would catch and kill you in seconds lol

    • @tamasrehany6532
      @tamasrehany6532 ปีที่แล้ว +206

      Furthermore its not just the rats they have to fight, its the rats plus whatever else the other pick is.
      Figthing the swarm while simultaneously being attacked from the air or being shot at is not fun.

    • @JS-rv3et
      @JS-rv3et ปีที่แล้ว +67

      i picked rats obviously because 10 FUCKING THOUSAND is alot god damn rats. and really the other pick is just for moral support.
      so excluding rats id pick... wolves and either gorillas or crocs. depending on if i know the environment ahead of time. i think gorillas could easily deal with lions if not " easily" would be more the able to with wolf support.
      also am I allowed to fight as well? or am i just sitting idle also can i give commands and coordinate?

  • @levferno483
    @levferno483 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I’d love to see you do more online puzzles and debates over animals like this.

    • @m90e
      @m90e 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I want to see TierZoo’s take on the “who would win: 1 billion lions or 1 of every Pokemon” debate

  • @IdioticSandwich
    @IdioticSandwich ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bro took a joke so seriously he actually answered it correctly after looking at the stats

  • @randomnepali7772
    @randomnepali7772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2187

    the fight in a shellnut:
    Attacking Army:
    - well-rounded, decently-sized assault force
    -high-level build acting as possible leader or the assassin who'll take advantage of the chaos
    Defending Army:
    -*zerg rush*
    -*the Soviet wartime stereotype encapsulated*

    • @Superbug-tf8zy
      @Superbug-tf8zy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +142

      Well the soviets won so i'll take em rats

    • @thebesthumour1855
      @thebesthumour1855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I think you meant nutshell

    • @CasualGuy60
      @CasualGuy60 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@thebesthumour1855 They can be used interchangeably when meme-ing/joking

    • @yawcty6478
      @yawcty6478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Just set time to Winter with this strategy and *SOVIET%* win rate

    • @somuchtocook9159
      @somuchtocook9159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And then there is unlimited manpower with the form of rats

  • @tundra3167
    @tundra3167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1445

    He protecc
    He attacc
    But most importantly
    He brings the bubonic plaque bacc.

    • @angryfrowner8810
      @angryfrowner8810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      indeed tier zoo is the rat king and the other animals have the pestilence

    • @diotima_
      @diotima_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      plaque

    • @noneofyourbeeswax01
      @noneofyourbeeswax01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ofc you mean *Bubonicc* plague ;)

    • @MageMinionsOP
      @MageMinionsOP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@noneofyourbeeswax01 nah it's a framed bubonic plaque :)

    • @sonofthebearking3335
      @sonofthebearking3335 ปีที่แล้ว

      😁

  • @Cyliem
    @Cyliem ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This reminds me of rimworld, where you can build your own army of boomrats (a species of rats in that game where they explode if they die) and you just jam them in a room and feed them whatever, let them multiply and let them out once a group of raiders attacks your colony.

  • @pringlw
    @pringlw ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I went for rats and the human. I figured the rats would incapacitate everything long enough for the human to pick it off. The eagles are a matchup nightmare though as the rats can’t reach them. However I don’t know how to not have the human as he can pick you off right away if he’s not on your team.

    • @luigichiaia7510
      @luigichiaia7510 ปีที่แล้ว

      but what if you can pick him off as well?

    • @rowenamirasol3792
      @rowenamirasol3792 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@luigichiaia7510 you cant, thats gonna turn this discussion straight into limbo

  • @xyon9090
    @xyon9090 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2801

    *When sheer numbers overpower the skilled*

    • @maximaldinotrap
      @maximaldinotrap 6 ปีที่แล้ว +206

      Dean Natuno, Zerg Rush

    • @Grey_Ramen_Hair
      @Grey_Ramen_Hair 6 ปีที่แล้ว +365

      *something plays in the back ground* *you can't tell what it is * it gets louder *it's the Soviet national anthem*

    • @fishreaper
      @fishreaper 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      damn I was just thinking the same thing.

    • @dj.h8374
      @dj.h8374 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Lord of the rings orcs

    • @dhrt5577
      @dhrt5577 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Andrew Gan a lot I presume

  • @d2ultima
    @d2ultima 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1234

    TierZoo is now my life. The bell has been hit. Videos are watched same-day.

    • @Maradnus
      @Maradnus 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't been later than 30mins late on my views :D

    • @jongyon7192p
      @jongyon7192p 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How would you balance the numbers to make this a fair game?

    • @n0isyturtle
      @n0isyturtle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you revolve your life around a channel that puts out videos every two weeks? you must have a lot of down time.

    • @Maradnus
      @Maradnus 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's worth investing the time to wait for the next video!

    • @mikejejeful
      @mikejejeful 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      D2ultima who needs a bell when you live here?

  • @krebs08142
    @krebs08142 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    5:52 Got me laughing because it’s just so funny how that person Leads a army of rats and eagles to large beasts

    • @newt2120
      @newt2120 ปีที่แล้ว

      i'd just attach some ropes to the Eagles' takes and have them fly me up, while the rats kill everything. easy win

    • @krebs08142
      @krebs08142 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@newt2120 but in the sky the Human Hunter have a better shot for you

    • @newt2120
      @newt2120 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@krebs08142 ah shit forgot about that guy. alright i send like 30 eagles each carrying a rat onto the human, so even if he kills all the birds, the rats get him. and the rest of the eagles blind the enemy, while the rats swarm them. easy dub

    • @krebs08142
      @krebs08142 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@newt2120 that would be more copatible with you plan (sorry for bad english)

    • @jeffreygao3956
      @jeffreygao3956 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do a rallying cry to get them to charge:
      “Charge forth! Slaughter them all! We TAKE NO QUARTER!”

  • @byrontheusurper6505
    @byrontheusurper6505 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    4:50 my bullet proof shield of ten thousand rats can deal with that

  • @katipunan4212
    @katipunan4212 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1847

    10,000 Is an extremely OP number
    wtf was the guy creating this thinking?

    • @heartbust4624
      @heartbust4624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +235

      Whoever made this really underestimated how much 10,000 of something is

    • @aaronmay701
      @aaronmay701 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      rat don't really have any piercing damage compared having low base stats overall. They could easily be squished by the sheer weight of a bull

    • @KokoroKatsura
      @KokoroKatsura 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      A N I M E
      N
      I
      M
      E

    • @dareenx1225
      @dareenx1225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Aaron May Yeah but a bull can’t even squish like 300 rats, so 10.000 is way too much

    • @peterzelaya9948
      @peterzelaya9948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      @@aaronmay701 I'm assuming you've never had a rat bite you? It hurts quite alot.

  • @geekygoggles628
    @geekygoggles628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +727

    As we say in D&D: We may not be stronger than the boss, but we have one advantage they don't. *Turn economy.*

    • @somuchtocook9159
      @somuchtocook9159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      I thought it was action economy

    • @Ekkaisara
      @Ekkaisara 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's why you gotta give your boss minions, keep those adventurer fucks on their toes

    • @bretterry8356
      @bretterry8356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ​@@somuchtocook9159 It is.

    • @renarddubois940
      @renarddubois940 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Tchazzar : *laughs in bonus action meteor storm*

    • @butterflyenjoyer230
      @butterflyenjoyer230 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You may have turn economy BUT I CAN LET IT SUMMON MINIONS

  • @andynachos2045
    @andynachos2045 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yeah, but that’s a really big man. Do you see the sun? DO YOU SEE THE TREE?

  • @mrcx6142
    @mrcx6142 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Interesting! I was on two out of rats, eagles and human pretty quickly, but I actually thought we'd have to take the human. But I guess at the end of the day, it also comes down to distance and starting points. Even if the eagles see the human before he sees the MVP, whether they can get there and damage him before he hits his shot is questionable.
    I think in a long-distance flat environment, the human is still extremely viable. It can deal with any of the larger, lower group size threats on it's own provided the field and the distance is large enough, leaving us only to deal with the one large group we didn't pick.
    But then I also arrived at the problem - there's no way we can take out 10k rats with only 50 eagles, and there's no way we could shield against 50 eagles for long enough unless the rats understood the situation perfectly and decided to form a meat shield or manage to pull off a combined effort of digging to safety. So that's where I was kinda stuck before watching your video.

    • @Hotobu
      @Hotobu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Bolt action rifle doesn't necessarily one shot anything on the list (including the human) and it's not going to have 100% accuracy. If everything is aware of its target the human isn't getting off more than a dozen shots (and that's generous), which isn't enough to make a dent in the opposition. The question is less "who do you want on your team" as opposed to "who don't you want on the other." Assuming you take the rats (which is a no brainer) if you select the human that means you have to deal with 50 divebombing eagles. You have no chance. On the contrary, with the human on the other team the Eagles + rats can take down the human.
      As pictured you're looking at roughly 250 rats per animal on the other team which is MORE than enough to obliterate the competition.

    • @godofmath1039
      @godofmath1039 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Hotobu Why not take both the eagles and the human? 10,000 rats is a lot, but each eagle could very easily pick up just one singular rat, fly extremely high, and drop it (or, better yet, eat it). Meanwhile, if you DON'T choose the human, you'll have to worry about getting shot. We have no context about how big the arena is and you surely aren't outrunning a rifle round.

    • @The-E-Guy
      @The-E-Guy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@godofmath1039 because the rats will already kill the vip and there also is another animals

    • @justpotatoit
      @justpotatoit 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@godofmath1039the eagles would have to take out 200 rats each before they reach the vip, without even considering supporting the human in taking out the other animals. There is no way that an eagle could take out that many rats before 7 charging bulls, 15 wolves, 4 lions, etc. Reach the vip and human.
      Rats are a must have in any terrain that isn't literal floor is lava (or something equally unfair where only the eagles' ability fly would prevail).

    • @godofmath1039
      @godofmath1039 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@The-E-Guy No, you simpleton. The eagles could very easily lift you and the other human if both of you are light enough and slowly pick off the rats one by one. You're forgetting the fact that eagles can literally crush bone with their grip strength. What's a squishy little rat gonna do against that?

  • @Sleepless_Sam
    @Sleepless_Sam 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4905

    The choices are too obvious, this meme needs balancing.

    • @amethystseaeggos5510
      @amethystseaeggos5510 6 ปีที่แล้ว +274

      First Last yeah the rat is too obvious

    • @Jon-vx4bh
      @Jon-vx4bh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +200

      First Last yeah rats were super op in early metas because they could spec into desiese which, during those patches, had no counter. The rats are still really strong today, especially vs the other low intelligence classes.

    • @Davelittler1
      @Davelittler1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +183

      Agreed. If you don't have the rats on your team, then you're dead no matter what; there is nothing on this list which could possibly defend you from that many of them swarming you simultaneously. Similarly, nothing on this list could deal with dozens of eagles at once. Once you've determined that, everything else on the list is just details.

    • @clubberlang8050
      @clubberlang8050 6 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Yeah, if you actually thought about the meme and didn't pick rat, you have no grasp of numbers.

    • @pedrolmlkzk
      @pedrolmlkzk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      oh no, balance patchs have a reputation of being too rough

  • @Kenya_Berry
    @Kenya_Berry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4026

    The rats will also reproduce fast, so if the battle takes days your army will possibly double within a week

    • @Zurochase
      @Zurochase 2 ปีที่แล้ว +404

      Who said the babies would swore their loyalty to you?

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +445

      It takes more than a week for newborn rats to mature enough to be useful in combat.

    • @dragonex4723
      @dragonex4723 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zurochase baby follow parent
      parent murders animals
      baby murders animals

    • @alzhanvoidsansado
      @alzhanvoidsansado ปีที่แล้ว +431

      @@Zurochase Because their parents told them to. Or ate the ones that didn't.

    • @SnailHatan
      @SnailHatan ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Uh, no. They do not reproduce that quickly.

  • @waffelz_
    @waffelz_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I found this channel again, and I got a great pick for a return video

  • @drewwhittemore2414
    @drewwhittemore2414 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congrats on the sub spike dude! You deserve it, his is one of my favorite channels!!!

  • @coletrain3162
    @coletrain3162 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1234

    I sort of underestimated how many rats 10,000 rats actually is. That many rats could strip any combination of the others down to the bones in minutes.

    • @ascii_9727
      @ascii_9727 6 ปีที่แล้ว +249

      ColeTrain316 I instantly thought it was a no brainer as soon as I saw it, if it was 3000 or 2000 then it would be debatable but 10000 rats is just ridiculous

    • @nataliagonzalez1698
      @nataliagonzalez1698 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Eagles could easily take them out though

    • @meandmetoo8436
      @meandmetoo8436 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      AsCii_ yea, I don't know what the one making it was thinking.

    • @catherinevo6060
      @catherinevo6060 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ColeTrain316 me too

    • @ascii_9727
      @ascii_9727 6 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Nathan Gonzalez dude its 10.000 rats, that's 200 rats per eagle "easily" is a bit of an overstatement lol

  • @Terraraptor1
    @Terraraptor1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2077

    For a potential future video, if you had to pick a team of D and F tiers to take on a team of A and S tiers, which builds would you pick and why?

    • @tonycampbell1424
      @tonycampbell1424 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I don't know how much potential that has as a notion, only because it's too vague.

    • @validnerd723
      @validnerd723 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Tier Video on the worst animals in the game. Soooo a Tire video on a tier

    • @mateobailey9348
      @mateobailey9348 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      oh my shit that's good

    • @brendangolledge8312
      @brendangolledge8312 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Animals are rated F to S tier in their environment. So it sounds impossible to choose F tiers and S tiers in the same biome such that F > S, because those animals would already be in contact with each other, and if the F tier could smash the S tier, then the tiers in that biome are wrong. It only seems plausible to do this with invasive species, like maybe an animal that is F tier in one biome could be higher in some other biome. That would be an uncommon occurrence. From what I understand, usually invasive species are already decent tiered generalists (probably at least B) in their own environment and become S tier in the new environment. Probably most F tiers are animals which are poorly specialized, and it would seem unusual for an animal to be better specialized for an environment in which it did not evolve.

    • @roy_mezz-awake2470
      @roy_mezz-awake2470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Welcome to Smogon.

  • @Youbeentagged
    @Youbeentagged 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Whoever made this meme, does not comprehend the number 10,000.

  • @tramperlean8502
    @tramperlean8502 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Other good thing about picking eagle to accompany rats is that the eagles are the only creatures that can get past the rats unscathed

  • @thatscrub8351
    @thatscrub8351 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4621

    Humans are low tier
    Human: * creates tank *
    Devs : wait a minute I didn’t say you could do that?
    Human : creates city biome
    Devs: I don’t like where this is going
    Human: farms other players
    Devs: stop!!!
    Humans: *create nukes*
    Devs: STOP!!!!!!

    • @csweezey18
      @csweezey18 5 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      @@Victor_Graves A certain flower wants to know your location.

    • @bleflar9183
      @bleflar9183 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@Victor_Graves Dirty human main.

    • @puppetmastersasori6490
      @puppetmastersasori6490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Elizabeth sneaky Undertale reference

    • @baxheri
      @baxheri 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      HUMANS GET BANNED

    • @carlstan4282
      @carlstan4282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Victor_Graves i think hes refering towards poppy a flower that can be turned into drugs (opium)

  • @Torthrodhel
    @Torthrodhel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2557

    The correct answer is human + crocodiles.
    Take gun off human, swap clothes. Run away.
    Enemies approach, kill human, assume job done.
    Also: free crocodiles.

    • @CavCave
      @CavCave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      But what are the crocodiles for?

    • @luisluna5835
      @luisluna5835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +489

      @@CavCave FREE crocodiles, you can make boots or bags later...

    • @djdragon6567
      @djdragon6567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      i have a better version get human and swap dress and get gun while 10000 rats distract the other animals

    • @Superbug-tf8zy
      @Superbug-tf8zy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@djdragon6567 eagles would get you first tho

    • @gliscornumber151
      @gliscornumber151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Or better yet, humans and rats in case plan A fails

  • @SleeplessBrazilLimbo
    @SleeplessBrazilLimbo ปีที่แล้ว

    fr i love your videos

  • @simondewitt7161
    @simondewitt7161 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The guy with the gun, I don't need to pick a second.

  • @bolt1437
    @bolt1437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +871

    None of the enemies would be able to kill off every single one of the 10000 rats.

    • @JoshuaCooper-ye8lf
      @JoshuaCooper-ye8lf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      I think the eagles could pick them off slowly

    • @JoshuaCooper-ye8lf
      @JoshuaCooper-ye8lf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      person loves jojo haha true. Let’s say the eagles were extremely hungry, or aggravated. All they have to do is immobilize the rats.

    • @halomoment7205
      @halomoment7205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      112358 853211 bruh what can one guy with a gun do against 10,000 rats

    • @bolt1437
      @bolt1437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@ericsandrade that's not the point.

    • @Misto_deVito6009
      @Misto_deVito6009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@JoshuaCooper-ye8lf Assuming the rats dont literally jump the eagles everytime they swoop down XD

  • @chineseslavery
    @chineseslavery 6 ปีที่แล้ว +302

    Are you gonna talk about the parasite meta?

    • @n0isyturtle
      @n0isyturtle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      pretty sure he mentioned Keemstar in a previous video

    • @pennisdrager7364
      @pennisdrager7364 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      YES
      Plasmodium falciparum FTW!!

    • @MylesAwayAgain
      @MylesAwayAgain 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Reaction Face deep! Multiple phase/host life cycle build. Hope he can create a guide for this

    • @gollymimus5261
      @gollymimus5261 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whenever people say meta I cry for the dinosaurs

    • @Ego-Fiend
      @Ego-Fiend 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Human top tier parasite

  • @chrissypoo69
    @chrissypoo69 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the RuneScape edits lol great vid

  • @LTMStarlight
    @LTMStarlight 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Even if you were to ignore everything good about the eagles you still have to worry about them being your enemy as I don’t think a human could deal with all 50 of them. And no other option has the reach to take them down. I would actually be less worried about the rats attacking me than the eagles however the rats are very good for defense anyways.

  • @akba666
    @akba666 6 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    10000 rats also provide an extremely powerful morale break debuff

    • @TrueMegaManiac
      @TrueMegaManiac 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, with one being able to cast fear on humans successfully in many instances, 10000 would multiply that effect tremendously guaranteeing 100% hit chance and increasing duration and amplitude, turning it into a stun effect.

    • @RyuuseiBoy
      @RyuuseiBoy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not the mention the numerous diseases they tend to carry.

    • @gingerbread7985
      @gingerbread7985 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      honestly, seeing that many rats coming my way would instakill me due to the extremely stacked fear debuff!

    • @TrueMegaManiac
      @TrueMegaManiac 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Debuffs wouldn't be given enough time to settle in though since the rat players would have a buffet of exp sooner just by taking out targets with repeating bite attacks.

  • @omarmiller314
    @omarmiller314 5 ปีที่แล้ว +978

    Lmao, its hilarious how much thought goes into this

    • @riflebusters1
      @riflebusters1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Omar Miller and amazing too!

    • @gaijinkuri684
      @gaijinkuri684 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is why it is so good

  • @oloxhossono1956
    @oloxhossono1956 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    they need to make a video game out of this

  • @DShawnPaytonOffiicial
    @DShawnPaytonOffiicial 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this video right here. I've watched it more times than I can count.

  • @danteinouye6098
    @danteinouye6098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +699

    I got attacked by a metric ass ton of rats. It was really scarring.
    Apparently, a neighbor had managed to isolate a huge pack of rats that had been living off of food for cows for quite awhile (I don't know exactly how it worked). Anyways they were all in this metal silo thingy, and had been kept in there for awhile, since he wanted to starve them out. I had the unfortunate experience of being the one to open the door.
    While it wasn't 10,000 thankfully, there must have been hundreds. Thankfully I was wearing a pretty heavy pair of coveralls, and a heavy fabric jacket, so I didn't get bitten too many times, but rats can be aggressive, really aggressive when they get hungry.
    I could see why 10,000 rats would be a little OP

    • @limiv5272
      @limiv5272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      But why did you open that door...?

    • @lnvalidm8991
      @lnvalidm8991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      @@limiv5272 not all humans are created with equal intelligence :P

    • @thisdobeanameinnit8019
      @thisdobeanameinnit8019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@limiv5272
      Maybe he was wondering about the noise,(like if there were hundreds of rats, surely you would atleast hear a faint squek,), or thrown something in his neighbor's backyard,

    • @tracematson385
      @tracematson385 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They would be op to defend against yes but not to op as a a defender assuming that you are in a open field. since even though 10000 is a huge amount bulls and bears are both pretty quick and quite tanky. swo you would need quite a big distance foe the rats to kill them all before they reach you. (especially since rats would likely not know to focus these targets in particular and they would likley focus whoever is in the front which would probably be the lions and wolves due to there higher mobility than bears and bulls

    • @r3cy
      @r3cy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      so we learnt that 10,000 rats can be defeated by sturdy clothes. fearsome.

  • @alexolas1246
    @alexolas1246 ปีที่แล้ว +1317

    it also occurred to me that, with the sheer number of rats at your disposal, you could probably deal with the threat of the hunter by taking sth like a thousand or five hundred of them off the DPS role and act as a tank role instead, by just forming a giant meat-shield around you

    • @cancerguy5435
      @cancerguy5435 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      Pointless idea actually. If the sniper knows even approximately where to shoot, 1 bullet can easily cut through a few layers of rat and still kill the VIP.
      If the VIP can in fact lie down then this is broken and sniper is completely redundant.

    • @Spookatz.
      @Spookatz. ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@cancerguy5435 ten thousand rats

    • @_mystic_5653
      @_mystic_5653 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      @@cancerguy5435 do you understand how much 500 rats are? If you stack all of them like a swat shield in front of you to cover your entire body from head to toe (considering the rats are around 5 inches in size, thats a wall the width of queen size bed across. Unless the human has a tank he probably wont get through that. And the wall isn’t compromised by getting shot either because they are just a pile of rats you’re hiding behind anyways doesnt matter if they are alive or dead as long as they not dps role

    • @cancerguy5435
      @cancerguy5435 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_mystic_5653 I mean, this is all correct. However, most US militants come equipped with a hand grenade. I haven't really considered this back then, but now it does appear kind of obvious that pulling a good throw out basically guarantees a kill on the V.I.P.

    • @Spookatz.
      @Spookatz. ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@cancerguy5435 ten THOUSAND rats

  • @Aburaishi
    @Aburaishi ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As soon as I saw 10,000 rats, I knew they were gonna be S tier. Whoever made this list severely overestimated how many rats it takes to kill a man

  • @friskfromut
    @friskfromut ปีที่แล้ว +4

    rats and the sniper (sniper can oneshot but needs time to reload) the 10,000 rats are meat shields that would last a VERY long time (due to how many there is) allowing time for the sniper to take everything out

    • @TheSoullessImmortal
      @TheSoullessImmortal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where do you see beavers? I would say it’s a typo, but you edited this and “rats” is on the 2nd sentence, while beaver is still on the 1st.

    • @friskfromut
      @friskfromut 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheSoullessImmortal yeah it was like 3 am when i wrote that sorry let me fix that

    • @TheSoullessImmortal
      @TheSoullessImmortal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@friskfromut
      Understandable. Can’t think straight when you’re tired asf, or if you’re gay.

  • @poutinemcflurry3544
    @poutinemcflurry3544 ปีที่แล้ว +2064

    I figured out that eagles had to be the thing you choose the second I realized that none of the animals would be able to stop them from reaching you and attacking you with their talons

    • @plasmakitten4261
      @plasmakitten4261 ปีที่แล้ว +277

      This puzzle pretty much comes down to whether the human's weapon is good enough to deal with 50 eagles. If it is, you pick the human; if not, the eagles.

    • @joffles6516
      @joffles6516 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The human could

    • @poutinemcflurry3544
      @poutinemcflurry3544 ปีที่แล้ว +198

      @@joffles6516 Well, if we're going by what was in the picture, the human had a hunting rifle, which could shoot down maybe a small handful of eagles before they got to me, but I highly doubt they could simultaneously kill 50 eagles and fend off all the other animals coming at it, and once the eagles got in between the human and I, every shot would have a risk of hitting me.

    • @splatsproing7412
      @splatsproing7412 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Yeah - like TZ said, a single eagle would have to get to a human and easily blind it, and then the human would be useless. Eagle team all the way

    • @sietsejohannes
      @sietsejohannes ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I highly doubt 50 eagles could coordinate well enough to all attack a single target at the same time. Same goes for 200 rats. His S-tier choices are actually F-tier.

  • @daluckygit8019
    @daluckygit8019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4118

    Dishonored has taught me to never underestimate rats
    Edit: gawd lotsa likes

    • @Catzilla4000
      @Catzilla4000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      That, and A Plague Tale.

    • @mytimeisnowish
      @mytimeisnowish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Wait till you see Vermintide

    • @tigerfun8644
      @tigerfun8644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Same but with the bubonic plague

    • @comandantejj7159
      @comandantejj7159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Man like 10 of them could eat a man alive in dishonored

    • @LazyHomeSchoolDude
      @LazyHomeSchoolDude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what about wind waker?

  • @borgnut7243
    @borgnut7243 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do more deathmatch puzzles, this was entertaining

  • @monochrome3334
    @monochrome3334 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm glad I picked the right pair. :)

  • @ginger-ale7818
    @ginger-ale7818 ปีที่แล้ว +1285

    I think the main issue with this challenge is the creator having WILDLY underestimated the rats and eagles. Both of those things are A or S tier in certain metas and the truly insane group sizes kind of overwhelm the issue.

    • @tmjz7327
      @tmjz7327 ปีที่แล้ว +175

      yeah I agree, whoever made it wasn't too bright because 10,000 rats is an absolutely RIDICULOUS number

    • @xenotypos
      @xenotypos ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Still, very bad idea not to take the human, he can still one shot you depending on where he is. I'd take the rats and the human. Rats are the absolute top tier, but placing eagles at the same level seems ridiculous imho.
      In the video, I also disagree that 15 wolves would be more useful than 4 lions, 4 lions can take care of 15 wolves. I don't even think wolves would even risk attacking something like a crocodile in real life, no matter how many they are, their attacks are pretty weak.

    • @tysej4
      @tysej4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@xenotypos 2 months later but 15 wolves would body 4 lions. Probably not even take anything but minor injuries along the way. As for protecting VS attacking the VIP I am not sure.

    • @xenotypos
      @xenotypos ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@tysej4 I literally saw a video footage of two male lions beating the crap out of at least 20 hyenas that were attacking them. Weight difference does wonder, and there's 4 of them here.

    • @tysej4
      @tysej4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@xenotypos And Hyena's are not wolves. They have sharper teeth, stronger bite force. But are all smaller, less cordinated, more cowardly. They don't hunt as wolves do.
      And a Lion's top speed outdoes a wolf. But by that very same metric of mass a wolf with aid could run circles.
      That's how wolves deal with bigger prey, they bleed them out. I've seen footage of 4-5 wolves taking out bears, great moose and other such. And they didn't even get hit.

  • @mistermustachiogmc1256
    @mistermustachiogmc1256 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1184

    Hey, TierZoo, are we gonna hear anything about the Chernobyl meta?

    • @amberhawksong
      @amberhawksong 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      MisterMustachio GMC Agreed

    • @jose-ec3co
      @jose-ec3co 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      MisterMustachio GMC that would be perfect

    • @nicolaszan1845
      @nicolaszan1845 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Indeed. I'm very interested in what his thoughts are on this very very new and recent new meta the devs have chosen to make. It's unique.

    • @mikhailbychkov5042
      @mikhailbychkov5042 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      *cheeky breeky v damke intensifies*

    • @rafliavriza3651
      @rafliavriza3651 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Nah, the devs said that the Chernobyl radiation event is going to last until 20.0 updates left. And we're only in update 2.18. So yeah make the most of it.

  • @viratshivam
    @viratshivam ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this channel

  • @Abubakardapro123
    @Abubakardapro123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I KNEW IT FROM THE START, I'M SO SMART.

  • @reiggae
    @reiggae 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1288

    wait.... when tf did you reach 800k, last time i remember 200k or something

    • @yeetyeetbeep
      @yeetyeetbeep 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      da fairei broo same😂😂

    • @yoissy
      @yoissy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      He deserves it though

    • @ryant4849
      @ryant4849 6 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      da fairei you're literally watching a kid who made vids for fun to being able to pay for his entire college tuition in the span of two months. God Bless capitalism

    • @tomgerrits2348
      @tomgerrits2348 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed😂

    • @syfilen
      @syfilen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      When he got a huge spike in subs by the "Are Humans OP" video which went completely viral.

  • @alsexc.g
    @alsexc.g 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1034

    10,000 rats
    The whole of Europe: *chuckles im in danger*

    • @siyacer
      @siyacer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      *half of

    • @925263
      @925263 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@siyacer It was 90% when it comes to death, and all of Europe was affected.

    • @mittens4385
      @mittens4385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Roughly 1/3 of England died. Not 90%, that would be crazy. I assume it is around there for most other places, or better.

    • @C0KEC00KIEQ
      @C0KEC00KIEQ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      50% during the height of the pandemic in like a 3-5 year period. But overall the black plague continued for well over a century so 90% is a feasible amount over that time

    • @mittens4385
      @mittens4385 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      90% of the population at any one time maybe, but new people would have been born etc. The average life expectancy was about 30-40 back then, so it would have been about 3 separate pieces of people. the overall down to 30% again

  • @mattzx003
    @mattzx003 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    0:24 That's not a Golden Eagle, it's a Common Black Hawk. I normally don't nitpick like this but they look completely different

  • @Zanda641
    @Zanda641 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want more of these lol

  • @SHMOUSEY86
    @SHMOUSEY86 ปีที่แล้ว +2555

    I feel like this would be a lot more interesting if the human had a flamethrower.
    It would nerf the human's range by quite a bit, but would also give him a strong aoe attack that doubles as an intimidation debuff against all of the animals on here.
    It also would serve to make some non-rat builds potentially viable, since rat is way too overpowered in this meta.

    • @M4x_P0w3r
      @M4x_P0w3r ปีที่แล้ว +151

      Depending on the scenery a flamethower could prove to be a hazard to your own team as well

    • @SHMOUSEY86
      @SHMOUSEY86 ปีที่แล้ว +200

      @@M4x_P0w3r depending on the scenery, a gun could be absolutely useless, and the human would essentially become a shittier version of the apes.
      Gotta assume it's just a field with short grass like he said in the video.

    • @khalilbarkallah9998
      @khalilbarkallah9998 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      If the human had a minigun he'd be unstoppable no matter against who

    • @AWOLBones
      @AWOLBones ปีที่แล้ว +118

      @@khalilbarkallah9998 make him extremely slow and still not be able to take out the rat horde? No thanks, in this scenario a flamethrower or bombs would be much more advantageous.

    • @SHMOUSEY86
      @SHMOUSEY86 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@khalilbarkallah9998 not really. At least with the flamethrower the human has a way to keep all of the animals at bay since they all gain an intimidate debuff from nearby flames.
      With the varying heights and hitboxes of the different animals, the human would probably still get overrun at some point.

  • @BeetleBuns
    @BeetleBuns ปีที่แล้ว +1001

    the overwhelming force that even 1,000 rats would comprise is terrifying enough, 10,000 is INSANE overkill

    • @jeffreygao3956
      @jeffreygao3956 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One hit means lots of dead rats.

    • @Ayedyn
      @Ayedyn ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Rats are the slowest pick on the whole list. Every other animal can outmaneuver them. They are a horrible pick on an open plain. (They would only be good if you were in a forest or urban environment.)

    • @BeetleBuns
      @BeetleBuns ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ayedyn 10. motherfucking. thousand.

    • @Ayedyn
      @Ayedyn ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@BeetleBuns the objective is not for the attackers to kill every single defender and the human. It's for the attackers to kill the human. Rats have no stopping power against charging bulls or grizzlies. And any large mass of rats can be maneuvered around.

    • @BeetleBuns
      @BeetleBuns ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ayedyn 10. motherfucking. thousand. maneuver around THAT, bitch.

  • @bahdas_jahfada6286
    @bahdas_jahfada6286 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I think this might also depend what you are armed with because humans who have unlocked large aoe effect weapons could potentially deal with rats and eagles but if you are armed with nothing or the same as the human given as an option then the result should remain as rats and eagles

  • @Junebug0369
    @Junebug0369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:30 “armed only with a bolt action rifle” *shows picture of a lever action rifle*

  • @theodoreyd
    @theodoreyd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1937

    I'm so impressed with your ability to plug your sponsors haha

    • @VildhjartaFanGurl
      @VildhjartaFanGurl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Right lmao it's like he genuinely cares and is just sharing some inside info hahahahaha

    • @camd2610
      @camd2610 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      David Nomack inside info being a sponsor?

    • @Mr_Luggy
      @Mr_Luggy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Theodore Yamada-Dessert the man is smooth

    • @MikhaelAhava
      @MikhaelAhava 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A lot of channels have smooth sponsor transitions some occasionally some usually and sometimes you won’t even notice the sponsor. However there are still non smooth transitions out there.

    • @rogerengle2509
      @rogerengle2509 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Legit sht...youtube should do away with ads and let people intergrate them into their videos.

  • @TheAfroMenace
    @TheAfroMenace 6 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Both sides having one human makes this look like a modern day battle between two different druid circles.

    • @vanderkarl3927
      @vanderkarl3927 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Druid of the Swarm v Druid of the... everything else?

    • @OakenTome
      @OakenTome 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vander Karl Moon??

  • @BobBob-zu2dt
    @BobBob-zu2dt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is a absolute classic

  • @jremylee9264
    @jremylee9264 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your Segway into an advertisement is OP. 😆

  • @cortster12
    @cortster12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1574

    I heard there is a new build on the way that will be on a tier all its own, completely changing the meta. In fact, it may make all other builds obsolete.
    Do us organic builds need to worry about this upcoming 'AI' build?

    • @quandaleman
      @quandaleman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Bose-Einstein probably

    • @alfredoalfaro5000
      @alfredoalfaro5000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +168

      Indeed, if it doesn't get nerfed on time, it could wipe out all of the other builds. I've heard only the human build may stand a chance, but only if it attacks it in its infancy.

    • @rutger5000
      @rutger5000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      Honestly I think it's often underestimated how hard it is to develop the intelligence stat. It easy to over estimate a builds intelligence stat, when it's capable of abilities that you can't master. But that doesn't mean it outclasses you, or is even capable of that.
      Also keep in mind that it took the devs billions of years to really get the intelligence stat out there, so I don't think the human build will be able to replicate that any time soon. Now you might argue that their method of using evolution points was randomized and slow. But to that I'd counter, that the method we're using is equally randomized. And that the devs were working in a vastly more diversivied environment, that's really beneficial to developing a generalized intelligence.
      So the only threat I see the AI build may pose for the organics, is that they'll further buff the human build. And seeing as the human build is already breaking the meta, that may very well backfire on them.

    • @alfredoalfaro5000
      @alfredoalfaro5000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@rutger5000 You provide a rather solid argument, however I wouldn't say the efforts done in developing AI are random at all. Not only that but it seems that, unlike organics, it could grow to the point of becoming effectively unnerfable.

    • @rutger5000
      @rutger5000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      +Alfredo Alfaro. Well random is a simplification. But the AI building process does share a lot of features of the evolution mechanic that you find outside. I neither of these processes are truly random, but changes to the build are being made. Without actually knowing what the effects will be, if the change proofs beneficial, then it gets incorperated in new builds.
      Seriously though. The intelligence stat of AI can only exceed that of human builds in very specific tasks. Tasks that they can only learn as a support class from the humans. There's very little evidence to suggest they could ever develop the general intelligence that would be required to be an independent build.
      If you look in outsides previous runs. Then you see that every new build has the potential to dominate the server, if things go exactely their way. But usually that doesn't happen. That being said AI will proof to be one of the strongest support classes for the human builds, and they can easily be employed for things that will harm the human build.

  • @teddyrichard1488
    @teddyrichard1488 4 ปีที่แล้ว +375

    3:38 TZ portrays himself as a human, TZ is human main and plays on easymode confirmed!

    • @dipperpines5721
      @dipperpines5721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      He's been a noob this entire time!

    • @angryboi595
      @angryboi595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@dipperpines5721 I mean he’s played very build in his video so he doesn’t only play humans or these videos wouldn’t exist

    • @lukeroberson2115
      @lukeroberson2115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      TierZoo just has multiple save files. He uses the human main one to make use of the intelligence to make videos for others.

    • @Pihsrosnec
      @Pihsrosnec ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well duh, someone who metagames this hard is bound to pick the most meta build

    • @noti7510
      @noti7510 ปีที่แล้ว

      well, the image is posing the question to an average human, so it makes sense that tierzoo would represent itself this way

  • @kluevo
    @kluevo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ngl, my first thought to this was human and rats. Human to hunt the other animals, and rats swarm YOU so that it's borderline impossible for the other animals to actually get to you because you have a wall of rats hiding your precise location. This, of course, assumes you get a relatively high degree of control over the rats' actions, but literally none of the other options are quite as defensively strong as 2-5 metric tons of rats blocking the enemy

  • @eradian1
    @eradian1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A factor left out is preparation and there should have been further discussion of location.
    Firstly, can the human use other weapons? Can they start a fire? Do they get to use something beyond a rifle? Simply being able to prep fire would instantly make them the highest value even past the rats.
    Also what about being in a cave or building? Hawks are going to lose so much effectiveness in a cave or other enclosed space.
    Could the human build shelter?

  • @goldenhydreigon4727
    @goldenhydreigon4727 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3651

    You could just use one rat.
    *_If it carries the "Black Plague" status, that will kill everything else_*

    • @joricklania8627
      @joricklania8627 5 ปีที่แล้ว +245

      As far as I know, only humans are susceptible to bubonic plague, not any of the other animals.

    • @dudexyzu9415
      @dudexyzu9415 5 ปีที่แล้ว +131

      also human mains have the power medicine

    • @rulerofeverything4949
      @rulerofeverything4949 5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      And it's a Posion/Venom class attack, meaning its gonna be a while befor they fall

    • @schwarzeseis4031
      @schwarzeseis4031 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@rulerofeverything4949 If the vip doesn't mind hiding in cover until the sniper dies ... but then again, we might as well twist it so the attackers die of old age...

    • @rulerofeverything4949
      @rulerofeverything4949 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@schwarzeseis4031 yeah

  • @JustWrite
    @JustWrite 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1851

    How long until someone else makes another "pick two" meme to spam you with? :P
    Great video though!

    • @TierZoo
      @TierZoo  6 ปีที่แล้ว +299

      Hey if it's popular enough I'd be dumb not to analyze it! Thanks Sage!

    • @noahalban6384
      @noahalban6384 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      TierZoo hey tier zoo, could you do a discussion of the urban/suburban meta, considering that it’s the fastest growing biome in the game so far?

    • @fluxshaman8251
      @fluxshaman8251 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I imagine it'd be pretty varied, considering the widespread nature of the suburban zones. It would also lean heavily towards any of the builds that humans come to consider "cute" because otherwise, humans begin to exterminate them.
      And then there's cockroaches.

    • @HarryANuss-xt1hj
      @HarryANuss-xt1hj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Perhaps a water battle...

    • @noahalban6384
      @noahalban6384 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Christian Thorn ...which is why it would make an interesting video. There are so many different urban areas and they are so diverse

  • @Dingobabee
    @Dingobabee ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Rats are also extremely trainable, particular the domestic varieties

  • @willyreeves319
    @willyreeves319 ปีที่แล้ว

    assuming you have complete command of the critters on your side you could have the eagles drop rats on the attackers 2 per eagle that's 100 rats at a time being dropped on to whatever was most dangerous at the time. the eagles could then make an eye gouge attack run on the way back.
    on the other hand you have different fingers

  • @shieldphaser
    @shieldphaser ปีที่แล้ว +1186

    This particular question has always been more of a "what can you afford not to take" thing. The eagles are the only ones with flight, so you have to take them because otherwise you have nothing (other than possibly the human) who can intercept them before they kill you. Similarly, the raw numbers of the rats means that you have to pick them because nothing else on the list can stop them before they get you. Bigger units are also easier to intercept and so are safer to not take, by comparison. The huntsman with the rifle is also an issue, because if he hits, he hits, but one gun can only fire so quickly and so he cannot compete with 50 eagles. You just need to avoid wide open spaces until the hunter is dead.

    • @amiiboacid4785
      @amiiboacid4785 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The rats are bad at defense and can't stop charging tanks like bulls and bears from reaching the human. The eagles can counter rats because they can just keep dive bombing them without taking damage, but obviously that will take a very long time. And unless all 50 eagles are fighting the hunter at once, he can take care of them and then move on to the VIP. The hunter will be just as good at hiding as the VIP if not moreso. The eagles won't immediately know where he is. If they spread out to try to find him they would all be seperated and he can take them out one by one.

    • @gigachadzyzz2906
      @gigachadzyzz2906 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      @@amiiboacid4785 One rat bite and the bull will start screaming in pain and yes, Rats will be able to climb on a charging bull because of their speed.

    • @amiiboacid4785
      @amiiboacid4785 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gigachadzyzz2906 one rat bite will do nothing against a bull idiot. I'm not saying rats can't climb them, although it will be difficult due to their height and speed, but they can just keep trampeding forwards until they reach the VIP. Rats cannot be tanks

    • @cybercyrus6402
      @cybercyrus6402 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      @@amiiboacid4785 clearly you're underestimating how large 10000 is. If you take out the vip and just ask which would win the rats would solo all of the animals. Which is why the question is about which you don't want against you, because the rats will just kill everything.

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo ปีที่แล้ว

      if you can avoid open spaces to evade the human, then eagles are useless to begin with, no reason to take them. just go inside a house or something, pick the human and the wolves. have the human kill the bulls first and the rest becomes useless and the wolves can easily pick off the slow steam of rats that can manage to find their way in, and the others are blocked outside and are easy pickings for the human who will slowly dispatch of all of them.

  • @BusinessCasual
    @BusinessCasual 6 ปีที่แล้ว +766

    Rotating team comps when?? Also thanks for the shoutout! :3

    • @GigaPhoenix9001
      @GigaPhoenix9001 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hmhm would love more of these team vs analysis. Though I think it would be more ballenced and less obvious if the mice and maybe the birds had less numbers, the Mice at 10,000 would actually reck all the teams, except for the eagles, but even they would get tired and have to take their time.

    • @rodigoduterte9192
      @rodigoduterte9192 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Business Casual so, what were you chose? Mine was a human, it can took the other disadvantage ingenuinely

    • @user-YuHaoHuang
      @user-YuHaoHuang 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      first time i see sponsors commenting in the channel

    • @TierZoo
      @TierZoo  6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      黃宇豪 he's not the sponsor, skillshare is. But he worked with skillshare to make that specific class

    • @user-YuHaoHuang
      @user-YuHaoHuang 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TierZoo oh ok still pretty cool nonetheless

  • @orkaydk9430
    @orkaydk9430 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Something to consider
    If you have control of the animals you pick, you could possibly use one of the cattle as a mount to escape with

    • @michaelzhou2422
      @michaelzhou2422 ปีที่แล้ว

      No bc cattle is slow

    • @orkaydk9430
      @orkaydk9430 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@michaelzhou2422 no? the only things faster than them are the lions and birds

    • @CutWat
      @CutWat 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      bruh you're being put into a FIGHT you can't just run

    • @OnlineElevator
      @OnlineElevator 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@CutWatWhy not

    • @mmnd8158
      @mmnd8158 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CutWatthere’s no rules you can just live out your normal life while animals fight realizing you aren’t even there

  • @shortchanged.
    @shortchanged. ปีที่แล้ว

    Depends on where we fighting.

  • @keksidy
    @keksidy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1354

    How the hell are your sponsorships so smooth, especially since you're a recent TH-camr

    • @lilwyvern4
      @lilwyvern4 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      There's also very little in the way of separation. If this were a TV broadcast, that sort of seamless transition thing wouldn't fly.

    • @devin5201
      @devin5201 6 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      he specked into the video making skill tree.

    • @LatinaCreamQueen
      @LatinaCreamQueen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love that shit. Funhaus does it really well on Open Haus.

    • @Lmomjian
      @Lmomjian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      because he's smart? some people are good at something from the outset

    • @r3dp9
      @r3dp9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This channel might be relatively recent, but we know nothing about was his IRL job is, and for all we know he has multiple dead alt accounts on youtube.
      You'll notice that his sponsorships are of a similar quality and tone of his videos, which is pretty darn good. He no doubt writes and reads the scripts the same way.

  • @nothisispatrick4644
    @nothisispatrick4644 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1437

    All of my teamates are noobs

    • @TDYDYDYEE
      @TDYDYDYEE 6 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      I'll take 10000 noobs. Thank you.

    • @NicholasStanley
      @NicholasStanley 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No this is Patrick soon, you'll surprass Justin yyyyyyyyyy

    • @dewd2623
      @dewd2623 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nicholas Stanley yea.. No.

    • @heinzharald2429
      @heinzharald2429 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      you clearly never played dota then, noobs can seriously damage your team there

    • @OatmealTheCrazy
      @OatmealTheCrazy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zerg swarm

  • @derekeano
    @derekeano ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A man with a rifle constantly hunting you is terrifying and you’d be forced to pick him just to avoid that

  • @tank1503
    @tank1503 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s just like, the hunter just kills you with a gun and that’s it

  • @Hyurno
    @Hyurno 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1174

    Ok but what if the rats go afk

    • @bigfudge2031
      @bigfudge2031 5 ปีที่แล้ว +156

      all 10000 of them?

    • @brunop.8745
      @brunop.8745 5 ปีที่แล้ว +168

      @@bigfudge2031 DDoS the whole rat server, that's the only way to win

    • @PoneryBugsnax
      @PoneryBugsnax 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I heard they run through specific server known as "Cheesewheel" to help with the massive group size frame issue, but any food file completely demolishes the server balance

    • @byzantinemapper6145
      @byzantinemapper6145 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      AKA sleeping

    • @MartairEPIC
      @MartairEPIC 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      give us english subs pls

  • @bk1683
    @bk1683 5 ปีที่แล้ว +410

    I think Tierzoo should cover the bacteria class, an overlooked yet powerful class.

    • @dr.eckschwein1062
      @dr.eckschwein1062 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Brody Krzysiak
      I dunno. I never really liked them. Basically just a cheesy farming class. Abysmally low stats, boring gameplay and generally frowned upon by most players.
      Their only redeeming features are their unrivaled reproductive rates which make them so fit for low-effort farming and their low evolution-point cost for upgrades paired with their high evolution point gains from their high reproductive rate.
      The only ways they can hurt other players are taking up resources they need or poisoning them with their excrements, both of which aren't even actual attacks.
      In fact most bacterium players actively try to avoid hurting other players as that makes the character's immune system target you, which in many cases will lead to the destruction of your colony.
      Overall Bacteria are pretty terrible. But if you like them, you do you, I'm not one to judge.

    • @bk1683
      @bk1683 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Dr. Eckschwein I don't find them the most entertaining, but I would like to see a professional opinion from tierzoo on a class that is often overlooked.

    • @MisterMikhail
      @MisterMikhail 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      One bacteria build was solely responsible for an absolutely massive ban that rendered an entire metabolic playstyle impossible in the overworld. I'm talking about the Oxygen Catastrophe. Their numbers are capable of being harnessed for griefing on an unheard of scale.

    • @sandman5587
      @sandman5587 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brody Krzysiak thats aids

    • @bk1683
      @bk1683 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      John Sandoval ur aids

  • @dawson-02
    @dawson-02 ปีที่แล้ว

    we need a battle sim game to hash this out. I def agree that the numbers game is the play