A true, unbiased review is rare to come by these days. You've listed pros and cons for all three products and helped the viewer make his decision objectively. Thank you for making such an excellent video!
I have 8 GELG cans that I have been using for gasoline storage. Pretty good quality and I would definitely buy more if needed. So far they have been stored for 1 1/2 years with treated non-ethanol gasoline. No leaks at this point. I will start rotating the gasoline at the two year mark (September) and I'll get to see how the insides are holding up. In the very near future I am going to purchase 4 more GELG's regardless. One thing that I noticed is that my GELG cans have the same locking pin system as the Wavian shown in this video.
I have a few Jerry cans one of which is an ex MOD can dated 1956 that I found in a field 35 years ago, it’s still used for old oil and it’s still good 👍🏻🇬🇧.
The writing on the side is the UN HAZMAT container code, basically tells you the material of the can, what liquid flash point it's certified to hold, if it is reusable, etc.
I screwed up and bought multiple cheap gas cans (likely Chinese but don't know for certain) for emergency fuel storage. My buddy took me out on his boat to go crabbing, and to be a nice guy I filled one up with non-ethanol gas and gave it to him. He put it in the shed that is attached to his 2nd home, a beach house. Then he went home and forgot about it. Next time he came back, it had leaked all 5 gallons of gas over his floor. One single spark and it would have blown up the place. The smell really hasn't gone away either. Wavian only for me now. I suspect that the expansion caused a weld on the bottom to break and leak.
Harbor freight sells The civilian version for about half the price. It has a plastic cap. I think you can get a aluminum one with a magnet for them on the internet. I've got 4, no leaks. These cans are not as heavy duty as the old US military has cans. I've got several of those and they are noticeably heavier and thicker.
@@jsprz5928 It keeps the gas cap stuck to the can. They do expand when it gets hot and contract if near empty. These cans are not vented. So you will want to leave outage if you store gas. Four inches below the top should be sufficient.
Never buy Chinese especially when it comes to products that are suppose to follow safety standards because China builds for quantity and not quality. Eagle gas cans are very well known for quality and are entirely manufactured in the U.S.
All of my 8 cans are WWII German surplus and they have little megal swappable tags that sit stacked in a little window frame to identify the contents. And of course the wording is all in German. Te best one are the food containers that the whole top comes off and there is a removable rectanglee bucket setting inside the internally insulated can. I use mine in my carrier at the back of my truck to carry my canned drinks in, with ice poured in on top.
@@CurtisDrew1 My surplus cans have the tags, purchased from Sportsman's Guide and / or Cheaper Than Dirt about a quarter century ago. Mostly 1980s German made, one a 1944 Brit. Every time I'd get an SG catalog I'd rifle through it immediately to see if they had the 'half cans' (10 liter) or the coveted West German mess kits and every time I'd see them listed I'd jump straight on the phone to find them sold out. Similar experience with the porcelain lined French wine cans.
Thank you. I order a Wavian about a week ago, it hasn't arrived yet ... but I got thinking that I hadn't seen any reviews on it. Good to know it should be good quality.
I bought my personal jerry can in Germany when I was in the RAF in 1984 for 20 deutsche marks back then, roughly 5 UK £ at the time. It's in my shed somewhere now, not used it for 20 years or more! But I'm gonna dig it out and check whether it's still serviceable or not. Might need it soon! It might be a good idea to review old jerry cans, see how well they do actually last over many years.
I have surplus German made NATO 'Gerry cans' of the same vintage that I bought from Cheaper Than Dirt about a quarter century ago for off road use (Willys Jeeps) and still use them. My 1944 dated British made 'Gerry' finally rusted through on the side, would likely take a simple fix with JB weld (2 part epoxy with powdered metal).
when done right can be welded. if just rusted inside. pour in a pound or so of 1/4inch size nuts and bolts, as well as washers. wrap in pillows and heavy blankets, quilts, etc. place in the dryer on tumble for a couple hrs. rust will be gone no chem needed. clean out on a hot day to dry the inside real good. then pour in a gasoline proof coating to stop any more rust.
@@larryjanson4011 Your tumble polishing / cleaning idea is sound. I do the same with a rock tumbler and walnut shell for cartridge casings and used larger tumblers with steel shot or custom 'tumbling media' (cones of abrasive laced plastic) to finish bronze parts which I had wax cast for architectural restoration decades ago. Ivory Snow (flakes) laundry detergent worked very well with the bronze and with sterling silver jewelry. I wonder if clean sand or glass media would work well on steel cans with the method you've suggested?
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Great veido! As there isn't any US government certification requirements, the Chinese Jerry can is still very risky considering gasoline is flammable and potentially explosive. I'd say the Wavian all the way. It is expensive but you definitely get what you pay for!!!
Good stuff. I do want to say you misidentified the Chinese spot welds as tacs, and did the opposite with the GELG can, which are tacs or short runs, not spot welds. The problem with the cotter pin on the GELG can is not so much that you'll lose it but that cotter pins are a pain in the neck to fiddle around with if you're fixing to actually use the can with any regularity. Also those flexible spouts are no good, they tear away at the base after minimal use and I have had them with the breather hole drilled on the wrong side. Which forces me to maneuver a 20kg+ can on its side and raised over or level with my shoulder to fill a car, generator, excavator, etc.
Thank you for sharing. Your comparison and information are valid, and almost true. I bought two cans on eBay 6 years ago, and did not know it was made in China. I paid $16 a piece at the time, and still use it today. I store it in the cool shed, and take it out to used it/ rotated it with the new one every six months. I don’t have any problem with it like you have described it. Maybe I just got lucky and very happy with my decision for the prices I paid for it. Due to the Covid-19 and all the locked down all over the world, I have ordered 3 more, and I only pay $24 plus per can. It was a perfect bug out cans for me!
The NATO jerry can is basically perfect and I really wish they'd just make more of them and monopolize the market because we don't need shitty knock offs.
Wow, the prices of even GELG cans(as of 3/2022) are getting pretty crazy! $45 for _cosmetically blemished_ cans BEFORE shipping. I think I'll wait for a coupon for the Harbor Freight cans and just deal with the PITA CARB nozzles -or get an aftermarket nozzle.-
Just bought 4 at $49 plus two nozzles another $40. Shipping is $65. $around $285 total. Kinda ridiculous, but I need more than just plastic cans. Thought about buying the Midwest cans from HF, but too many reviews about the plastic cap spitting and leaking fuel out. Not good.
Great review. Not shocked the Chinese one is crap. Even the "expensive" examples are of variable quality and their liner's the same(a friend of mine has made this mistake more than once). Plus I try to avoid buying Chinese anyway and did so before this virus nonsense. Joke is I have an original WW2 German Jerrycan from 1942 and it's still leak free, not rusty, the welds are fine(and recessed as per the original design) and the liner is as glossy as the day it was made. I've only replaced the rubber seal in the cap. Just goes to show good quality well looked after can last a lifetime. Like anything buy the best quality and you won't lose money in the long term. In your line up it would be the Wavian for me, though I'd also look at NATO army surplus too(though that's easier in Europe where I am).
I don't know much about the number but "BAM" is Bundesamt für Materialforschung - German Federal Institute for material testing. I saw "BAM" imprinted on the GELG and Walpro/Wavian.
hah. I bought a "cheap" Can here in Germany, just for novelty, and now I'm surprised even the cheap stuff here is Valpro. The more you know. Yes, mine is totally similar to the Wavian/Valpro in the Video. Same welds, same inner coating, same Markings. Think I paid around hmmm 30€ in local retail store
Wehrmacht was the combined Nazi military of Heer, Luftwaffe, and Kriegsmarine from 1935 - 1945. They are no longer involved in procurement. NATO specifications are entirely relevant to any NATO member nation and are thus a relevant standard today.
The numbers with the UN=United Nations (not NATO) marking is specs for transportation. You can find that spec on cardboard boxes, plastic containers and other Hazardous material containers shipped in transportation. Transportation of hazardous materials is highly a regulated throughout the world and in the US or over 40 years.
Wavian is the only can of this type (so far) that you could get in red which makes it compliant for storage and transportation of gasoline in many US states (including Texas). I would go with Gelg, they come in some interesting designs and colors and are much cheaper but sadly no red (or yellow or blue…) Hopefully soon.
Does the Gelg or Wavian have a lip or indentation along the edge on the bottom? The rack on my Jeep is designed in such a way that requires this to properly secure the cans. I'm getting the feeling I may need to make some modifications to it. Great job on the very objective comparison, thank you.
I just got 4 of the Gelg cans, 3 5 gallon and 1 2.6 gallon, all with a manufacturing date of 7, 2020.They all look great on the outside but they all have bare metal showing through on the inside in places. They would all need to be re-coated. The internal vents mimic my Wavian cans except for the 2.6 gallon, it just has a pipe welded inside near the top of the opening. They also all have the spring clip to lock the lids shut instead of the pin like the wavian. None of my Wavian spouts fit these cans either, they are close and almost lock on but I wouldn't trust them. Overall, they are decent cans for the money and very capable if you are willing to complete the coating inside and this may negate the cheaper price all together not to mention they don't come with spouts and your Wavian spouts won't work. Thanks for your review, it is what turned me on to these cans in the first place but it looks like their quality may be slipping. Decent cans but NOT a Wavian.
I will point out that unless I am mistaken, the original cans did have the tube vent on it. The difference between that and the China can is that it is SUPPOSED to come just a bit shy of flush with the top of the mouth so that it can't be blocked by the fuel you're pouring out. The China can has it too far in and the vent sent with it has no way to connect to that tube, as the Wavian spout does. It just has a notch cut into one side of the spout. Useless. I bought one of the Wavians and I found that there were spots where the weld bead came slightly proud of the recess and that's not good. Ideally, it is supposed to be at least a an eighth of an inch below the surface of the can. I will also say that I, too, thought the interior coating was a bit poorly done.
The problem we had using them in the military is the inside coating/ paint flakes and rust! That ends up clogging fuel filters, injectors and jets in carburetors. Watchout for the cans with exterior metal ridge seam that isn't recessed! The seams get banged up and rust and leak! Yikes!
Of course those are not spot welds, they are tack welds. A spot weld is entirely different. A tack weld is the shortest possible continuous weld and is usually just to hold together until continuous weld is done.
Do you use the Wavian/Valpro can to transport due, I am only asking because on the Website Atlantic British Ltd. where they sell the Valpro's there is a sticker on the can in a pic that says FOr Transportation of Non-Potable Water Only???
Yes I do use it for transport gasoline from time to time. The reason why some sellers stick a label that says for" non-potable water only" is to circumvent EPA rules that require gasoline cans to have those annoying non functioning self locking spouts.
Valpro cans work well. Although, the problem that I have is when there is a major altitude change, the cans seem to collapse and forms a "pin hole" leak in the general area of the collapsed point. It has happened on two of my Valpro cans. Any ideas on how to alleviate this problem?
.... I mean they're meant to be airtight and have no way of venting to compensate for pressure changes; about the only thing you can do is just not forget to burp them occasionally.
I have a few of the 10L Gelg cans. The size is easier for me to move around, but I haven't been able to find a mount to carry them on a roof rack. Any ideas?
i will stick to my older metal “ jerry cans” with the threaded metal caps, have lasted me so-far well over 40 years. not one failure. no “seam “ to be a problem. not even coated on the insides.just fill with at least 1 gallon of real non watered down gasoline stabilizer. then pump gas. it is still good to use up to 3 years latter. and no rust, or water in the cans. if not for the miles and time just to get real gasoline. i would only fill with that fuel and stabilizer.
I bought three Chinese jerry cans cause I did not know what they really were. Gave one away, using two to rotate gas. Last week I went to empty the Jerry can and it only had half the gas. I thought I only used half but set on ground and saw a wet spot on the bottom. No wonder the shed smelled like gasoline! I did not think those welds were very trust worthy and I was right. I emptied it out and walked it aross the street. Set on the side walk outside a storage unit with a Free sign on it. Said leaks at bottom. A spot weld will fix, good luck. It was gone in 4 minutes. Just order some used NATO used cans from the guide. If I like them no need for another wavian.
the entre point of the recessed weld it to prevent it from being a point of impact.... a strike to a weld breaks them... idea being it wont burst open if it falls off a truck or gets tossed around in the cargo durring a turbulent ride.... the other two are shit for that reason
2022-03--06 The Wavian cans are selling for $129 each at the link you provided! Yikes. When I was in the Army, I LOATHED the 5 gallon cans we used with the screw on threads, rusty innards, and flex spout that always had dirt in it. I never was exposed to the superior WW2 German design that is still the best.
@@MrSGL21 this is correct. The sticker even says ‘Made in Latvia.’ Also the VALPRO Webaite says that it makes cans for Wavian, Striggs and Bratton, and Midwest Can.
I ordered a waving gas can with spout for $ 80.00. From Midwest Jeep 1900 E College Ave. #112 Normal, I’ll, 61761 Ordered about 8 months ago and never got my can. I called them and the had a message they had moved to their home to do operations. I went to their web. Site and they were gone. I was cheated out of the can. No way to find them.
i do not know the name of the brand. but the caps are screwed on. of all the ones i have over a good 40 years now never had a leaker. inside coated? as the cans if i do not use them for a long time i put used oil in them. so no resting ( plus the weight of the oil in the cans works great as a dead weight to help keep thieves from opening my garage door). they have been banged around a lot. no issues. i also have a couple cal approved safety cans. only metal gas can here. these can burp. i like cans the are sealed up. now if only i could find a good source for pure gasoline. not the watered down trash fuel. maybe i will start “re-refining “my gasoline to clean it up.
The Black GELG can is for water, the green GELG is gas, If I remember correctly. but that does not mean that they wont hold both. It was so you could tell at a look.
What about the American cans, I think they are good quality as well and for home use would be fine. In the round side you do loose some volume, but for the home user it won't matter.
I'm surprised that the GELG passed the NATO certification, as the welds must not be proud of the can for it to meet the specification. Maybe they sell the rejects into the civilian market. I have always bought from the forces surplus market, and would not dream of paying such exorbitant prices for new cans. £10 is typical, my limit is £15, and I have ones going back to WW2 made by both the British and Germans and all in perfect working order. Buy quality and you buy once. Buy sub-par copies and you'll have to replace them, sometimes more than once, during the life of the original version. As my oldest is now 82 years old and has only ever had the rubber gasket replaced (pennies, and designed for easy replacement) that philosophy seems to be holding up so far.
@@-oiiio-3993 Isn't that the first year that we produced our copies? I know that we were still using flimsies in N. Africa, as sand used to get into the trucks in transit and wear through the sides of up to half of all flimsies (which were just rounded corners on a rectangular tin, so they had flat sides for easy stacking - and they were very thin, as metal was in perilously short supply, hence the nickname) to the front, which apart from being wasteful, was a massive fire risk. So the first British copies of the classic German design must have been either 1943 or 4. It may be worth keeping in original condition, even if that means it can't be used, as it may have collectable value far above its replacement cost. I take it that you know the year from the WD (War Department) marking stamped into the side?
@@phillee2814 Yes, that can has the 'broad arrow' with W to the left and D to the right and 1944. I just watched a rather good vid about Gerry Can history and tit was mentioned that the Brits came into possession of German 20 liter cans during the (German) invasion of Norway in 1940 and quickly set about duplicating them.
@@-oiiio-3993 Hmm, clearly not quickly enough, as they were still using flimsies in North Africa (except when they could capture some originals from the Afrika Korps).
Both Gelg and Wavian had to meet the same requirements of NATO regulations, there are specific requirements the manufacturer has to meet to name its product compatible, so where's the fuss about the 0,1mm added thickness - try throwing a full 20 litre can, Gelg, Wavian or any other directly on concrete floor from the back of your truck- is that what you're talking about in the comments below? This product is not ment for beating, its ment for storing fuel and it does the job great - you're not driving tanks in the middle of some battlefield. Anyone imagining the're gonna escape from a bunch of zombies with their jerry cans strapped to their back is lacking common sense. Go and buy Presson for twice the price of Gelg and you'll still get more or lesss the same stuff - in case somebody paid enough effort to find out they both might just be made in the same factory in Poland, only you pay add. money for the Pressol logo:)
for short term and small storage for emergency, is the plastic can is cheaper and more eco and last longer? 4 x 5L good quality plastic can is cheaper than 1 x 20L cheapest metal can
i dont buy wavien because there coating inside is water soluble, my job is to transport jerry cans full of water to farmers in the outback for there tractors radiators, the jerry can is what we use because in outback heat plastic jerries just melt, a real jerry should be able to take water no bother, if it cant do that, its not even worth the cost of materials
Valpro/Wavian makes the gas cans for NATO as well so they are also the real deal they have all the same reqiourments as the GELG cans and have better welds than the GELG has. You can buy the Valpro/Wavion can at Harbor Freight for $44.99. They are sold under the MidWest lable but they are made by Valpro/Wavian imported by Midwest from Valpro/Wavian. The Valpro/Valpro sold by Harbour Freight is the civilian version and has the EPA mandated plastic safety pouring spout on it. You should do more research before doing a comparison because you are wrong on the Valpro/Wavian being more exspensive.
I bought a chinese can, and its lasted only a couple of weeks. It blew up like an egg on a warm day, and then collapsed on a cold night causing the whole can to look like a crumpled mess -- absolute Chinese tat !!!!!!
Examples of factories and manufacturers? Its hard for U.S. consumers to be able to tell the difference online. That is why its riskier to purchase unknown Chinese products.
China has a horrendous history and reputation for counterfeit products. Until China has a certification system that can be trusted (not just printing certification details on goods) , "quality" will not be something consumers will ever associate with China.
@@explore_moor China's business plan is to cheaply copy anything they can with an eye to undermining the USA. Taiwan is better until the mainland takes it over.
Chinese can alone is a deal breaker. Who would even purchase it not having a inside coating. Excellent video
One time use can.
Typical of low end Chinese products made for export.
Looks good in image (unless one scrutinizes), build as cheaply as possible.
A true, unbiased review is rare to come by these days. You've listed pros and cons for all three products and helped the viewer make his decision objectively.
Thank you for making such an excellent video!
I have 8 GELG cans that I have been using for gasoline storage. Pretty good quality and I would definitely buy more if needed. So far they have been stored for 1 1/2 years with treated non-ethanol gasoline. No leaks at this point. I will start rotating the gasoline at the two year mark (September) and I'll get to see how the insides are holding up. In the very near future I am going to purchase 4 more GELG's regardless.
One thing that I noticed is that my GELG cans have the same locking pin system as the Wavian shown in this video.
I have a few Jerry cans one of which is an ex MOD can dated 1956 that I found in a field 35 years ago, it’s still used for old oil and it’s still good 👍🏻🇬🇧.
The writing on the side is the UN HAZMAT container code, basically tells you the material of the can, what liquid flash point it's certified to hold, if it is reusable, etc.
If the E.P.A.didnt screw everything up, we'd still have good gas cans.
No kidding. It is so clear those who pushed current regulations of gas can design are people who never get their hands dirty.
@@PeterLawton I get good cans from yard sales.
What changed?
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Safety nozzles and no real venting.
Spills gas too much and takes a long time to transfer from can to tank.
I screwed up and bought multiple cheap gas cans (likely Chinese but don't know for certain) for emergency fuel storage. My buddy took me out on his boat to go crabbing, and to be a nice guy I filled one up with non-ethanol gas and gave it to him. He put it in the shed that is attached to his 2nd home, a beach house. Then he went home and forgot about it. Next time he came back, it had leaked all 5 gallons of gas over his floor. One single spark and it would have blown up the place. The smell really hasn't gone away either. Wavian only for me now. I suspect that the expansion caused a weld on the bottom to break and leak.
Harbor freight sells The civilian version for about half the price.
It has a plastic cap. I think you can get a aluminum one with a magnet for them on the internet.
I've got 4, no leaks.
These cans are not as heavy duty as the old US military has cans.
I've got several of those and they are noticeably heavier and thicker.
@@tomhickman1006
Whats the magnet for? And do those expand?
@@jsprz5928 It keeps the gas cap stuck to the can. They do expand when it gets hot and contract if near empty. These cans are not vented. So you will want to leave outage if you store gas. Four inches below the top should be sufficient.
Never buy Chinese especially when it comes to products that are suppose to follow safety standards because China builds for quantity and not quality. Eagle gas cans are very well known for quality and are entirely manufactured in the U.S.
Thank you so much Chris...your review of the difference between each Jerrycan was very helpful!
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The 2 small holes on the handle are for attaching an 'Octane # / fuel type tag' . It's a Military thing.
All of my 8 cans are WWII German surplus and they have little megal swappable tags that sit stacked in a little window frame to identify the contents. And of course the wording is all in German. Te best one are the food containers that the whole top comes off and there is a removable rectanglee bucket setting inside the internally insulated can. I use mine in my carrier at the back of my truck to carry my canned drinks in, with ice poured in on top.
@@CurtisDrew1 My surplus cans have the tags, purchased from Sportsman's Guide and / or Cheaper Than Dirt about a quarter century ago. Mostly 1980s German made, one a 1944 Brit.
Every time I'd get an SG catalog I'd rifle through it immediately to see if they had the 'half cans' (10 liter) or the coveted West German mess kits and every time I'd see them listed I'd jump straight on the phone to find them sold out. Similar experience with the porcelain lined French wine cans.
The best value can is an ex NATO can, yes they’re second hand but proper heavy duty and £10-£15 each.
Thank you. I order a Wavian about a week ago, it hasn't arrived yet ... but I got thinking that I hadn't seen any reviews on it. Good to know it should be good quality.
That wavian is an absolute beauty.
Yeah , but once you see that gaping opening, the mystery is over 😏
I bought my personal jerry can in Germany when I was in the RAF in 1984 for 20 deutsche marks back then, roughly 5 UK £ at the time. It's in my shed somewhere now, not used it for 20 years or more! But I'm gonna dig it out and check whether it's still serviceable or not. Might need it soon! It might be a good idea to review old jerry cans, see how well they do actually last over many years.
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I have surplus German made NATO 'Gerry cans' of the same vintage that I bought from Cheaper Than Dirt about a quarter century ago for off road use (Willys Jeeps) and still use them. My 1944 dated British made 'Gerry' finally rusted through on the side, would likely take a simple fix with JB weld (2 part epoxy with powdered metal).
when done right can be welded.
if just rusted inside.
pour in a pound or so of 1/4inch size nuts and bolts, as well as washers.
wrap in pillows and heavy blankets, quilts, etc. place in the dryer on tumble for a couple hrs. rust will be gone no chem needed.
clean out on a hot day to dry the inside real good. then pour in a gasoline proof coating to stop any more rust.
@@larryjanson4011 Your tumble polishing / cleaning idea is sound.
I do the same with a rock tumbler and walnut shell for cartridge casings and used larger tumblers with steel shot or custom 'tumbling media' (cones of abrasive laced plastic) to finish bronze parts which I had wax cast for architectural restoration decades ago.
Ivory Snow (flakes) laundry detergent worked very well with the bronze and with sterling silver jewelry.
I wonder if clean sand or glass media would work well on steel cans with the method you've suggested?
Great veido! As there isn't any US government certification requirements, the Chinese Jerry can is still very risky considering gasoline is flammable and potentially explosive. I'd say the Wavian all the way. It is expensive but you definitely get what you pay for!!!
Good stuff.
I do want to say you misidentified the Chinese spot welds as tacs, and did the opposite with the GELG can, which are tacs or short runs, not spot welds.
The problem with the cotter pin on the GELG can is not so much that you'll lose it but that cotter pins are a pain in the neck to fiddle around with if you're fixing to actually use the can with any regularity.
Also those flexible spouts are no good, they tear away at the base after minimal use and I have had them with the breather hole drilled on the wrong side. Which forces me to maneuver a 20kg+ can on its side and raised over or level with my shoulder to fill a car, generator, excavator, etc.
Yes, He referred to those tack welds as spot welds 4 times and I cringed every time...
Thank you for sharing. Your comparison and information are valid, and almost true. I bought two cans on eBay 6 years ago, and did not know it was made in China. I paid $16 a piece at the time, and still use it today. I store it in the cool shed, and take it out to used it/ rotated it with the new one every six months. I don’t have any problem with it like you have described it. Maybe I just got lucky and very happy with my decision for the prices I paid for it. Due to the Covid-19 and all the locked down all over the world, I have ordered 3 more, and I only pay $24 plus per can. It was a perfect bug out cans for me!
Glad I came across this video. Gelg works for me...thanks for the information
The NATO jerry can is basically perfect and I really wish they'd just make more of them and monopolize the market because we don't need shitty knock offs.
Wow, the prices of even GELG cans(as of 3/2022) are getting pretty crazy! $45 for _cosmetically blemished_ cans BEFORE shipping.
I think I'll wait for a coupon for the Harbor Freight cans and just deal with the PITA CARB nozzles -or get an aftermarket nozzle.-
Just bought 4 at $49 plus two nozzles another $40. Shipping is $65. $around $285 total. Kinda ridiculous, but I need more than just plastic cans.
Thought about buying the Midwest cans from HF, but too many reviews about the plastic cap spitting and leaking fuel out. Not good.
@@jtnoodle Thank you, EPA. Always finding a way to make a good thing bad.
Great review. Not shocked the Chinese one is crap. Even the "expensive" examples are of variable quality and their liner's the same(a friend of mine has made this mistake more than once). Plus I try to avoid buying Chinese anyway and did so before this virus nonsense. Joke is I have an original WW2 German Jerrycan from 1942 and it's still leak free, not rusty, the welds are fine(and recessed as per the original design) and the liner is as glossy as the day it was made. I've only replaced the rubber seal in the cap. Just goes to show good quality well looked after can last a lifetime. Like anything buy the best quality and you won't lose money in the long term. In your line up it would be the Wavian for me, though I'd also look at NATO army surplus too(though that's easier in Europe where I am).
I have 4 Valpro. They are excellent.
I don't know much about the number but "BAM" is Bundesamt für Materialforschung - German Federal Institute for material testing.
I saw "BAM" imprinted on the GELG and Walpro/Wavian.
UN certification as can for transport of flammable liquid.
hah. I bought a "cheap" Can here in Germany, just for novelty, and now I'm surprised even the cheap stuff here is Valpro. The more you know. Yes, mine is totally similar to the Wavian/Valpro in the Video. Same welds, same inner coating, same Markings. Think I paid around hmmm 30€ in local retail store
I wish the “cheap” stuff here in the US wasn’t just old surplus or really crappy Chinese knockoff cans. Oh well, makes a good weekend project.
Nice vid, if that weld popped on the handle the container welds can’t be trusted either. Not on a trail rig anyway.
Latvians are still using original german equipment.
I'm only wondering why Wehrmacht 's are called NATO Jerry cans?
Wehrmacht was the combined Nazi military of Heer, Luftwaffe, and Kriegsmarine from 1935 - 1945. They are no longer involved in procurement.
NATO specifications are entirely relevant to any NATO member nation and are thus a relevant standard today.
Harbor freight carries the Valpro cans sold under the Midwest can company banner.
Great comparison!
So a solution for the gelg can is to make a lanyard for the retainer clip that also attaches to the adjacent carrying handle.
That black can is not spot welded. That is an arc weld.
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That part is often called a cotter pin.
The numbers with the UN=United Nations (not NATO) marking is specs for transportation. You can find that spec on cardboard boxes, plastic containers and other Hazardous material containers shipped in transportation. Transportation of hazardous materials is highly a regulated throughout the world and in the US or over 40 years.
Wavian is the only can of this type (so far) that you could get in red which makes it compliant for storage and transportation of gasoline in many US states (including Texas).
I would go with Gelg, they come in some interesting designs and colors and are much cheaper but sadly no red (or yellow or blue…) Hopefully soon.
you could just paint it red yourself.
No one cares about compliance 😂
I just ordered 2 Wavian and they come with spouts
We need a test which compares the inside of cans after several years of use. Someone want to get on that?
Wow , how many cans do you need?
@@mikesteel3634 Probably a control group of three of each manufacturer, including the original 1940s version from Germany.
Today purchased a blue 5gal Wavian gas can with included spout marked down to $70 due to a very small pebble sized ding on the handle.
Does the Gelg or Wavian have a lip or indentation along the edge on the bottom? The rack on my Jeep is designed in such a way that requires this to properly secure the cans. I'm getting the feeling I may need to make some modifications to it. Great job on the very objective comparison, thank you.
Thanks for the info . Almost bought one the Chinese's cans ……...
I just got 2 Wavian jerry cans brand new in Australia for $48 each
I'm Jealous, these are hard to find and overpriced in the US. The only thing available are the cheap plastic ones.
55bucks atm at supercheap. Bought 4.
Dam.. got 4 @ 88.00usd.. Frikin Amazon raped me 😆
Just got some GELGs and the inside coating is not good. Pooled on the bottom and not entirely covered.
With just regular unleaded?How long did it take to pool?
I just got 4 of the Gelg cans, 3 5 gallon and 1 2.6 gallon, all with a manufacturing date of 7, 2020.They all look great on the outside but they all have bare metal showing through on the inside in places. They would all need to be re-coated. The internal vents mimic my Wavian cans except for the 2.6 gallon, it just has a pipe welded inside near the top of the opening. They also all have the spring clip to lock the lids shut instead of the pin like the wavian. None of my Wavian spouts fit these cans either, they are close and almost lock on but I wouldn't trust them. Overall, they are decent cans for the money and very capable if you are willing to complete the coating inside and this may negate the cheaper price all together not to mention they don't come with spouts and your Wavian spouts won't work. Thanks for your review, it is what turned me on to these cans in the first place but it looks like their quality may be slipping. Decent cans but NOT a Wavian.
Why would they need to be re-coated? If used for fuel, having that petroleum in the cans will prevent them from rusting.
I will point out that unless I am mistaken, the original cans did have the tube vent on it. The difference between that and the China can is that it is SUPPOSED to come just a bit shy of flush with the top of the mouth so that it can't be blocked by the fuel you're pouring out. The China can has it too far in and the vent sent with it has no way to connect to that tube, as the Wavian spout does. It just has a notch cut into one side of the spout. Useless. I bought one of the Wavians and I found that there were spots where the weld bead came slightly proud of the recess and that's not good. Ideally, it is supposed to be at least a an eighth of an inch below the surface of the can. I will also say that I, too, thought the interior coating was a bit poorly done.
The problem we had using them in the military is the inside coating/ paint flakes and rust! That ends up clogging fuel filters, injectors and jets in carburetors. Watchout for the cans with exterior metal ridge seam that isn't recessed! The seams get banged up and rust and leak! Yikes!
According to the GELG website, they use .8 mm thick steel. Wavian (Real NATO) cans use .9mm steel.
GELG is still a NATO knockoff.....
Very helpful! Thank you!
Wavian/Valpro for the win!
Yep, If price isn't an issue... Wavian's/Valpro are the best hands down.
25€ in germany the 20liter valpro. great value
sure wish I would have found this sooner. I have the china can. Guessing I won't have it long.
Of course those are not spot welds, they are tack welds. A spot weld is entirely different. A tack weld is the shortest possible continuous weld and is usually just to hold together until continuous weld is done.
So?
Got that same slim bar light, its awsome
Do you use the Wavian/Valpro can to transport due, I am only asking because on the Website Atlantic British Ltd. where they sell the Valpro's there is a sticker on the can in a pic that says FOr Transportation of Non-Potable Water Only???
Yes I do use it for transport gasoline from time to time. The reason why some sellers stick a label that says for" non-potable water only" is to circumvent EPA rules that require gasoline cans to have those annoying non functioning self locking spouts.
Valpro cans work well. Although, the problem that I have is when there is a major altitude change, the cans seem to collapse and forms a "pin hole" leak in the general area of the collapsed point. It has happened on two of my Valpro cans. Any ideas on how to alleviate this problem?
.... I mean they're meant to be airtight and have no way of venting to compensate for pressure changes; about the only thing you can do is just not forget to burp them occasionally.
People focus on the top welds when the original 1953 cans use smaller spot welds that never break. Weldphobia...metal thickness is the issue.
I have a few of the 10L Gelg cans. The size is easier for me to move around, but I haven't been able to find a mount to carry them on a roof rack. Any ideas?
Anyone seen a video for a little red gas can with a latch and a non-epa fast pour spout? Cant find it now. It was a good bit smaller than nato.
Hi Chris did you notice a big W on the side of the Gelg?
Great review!
i will stick to my older metal “ jerry cans” with the threaded metal caps, have lasted me so-far well over 40 years. not one failure.
no “seam “ to be a problem. not even coated on the insides.just fill with at least 1 gallon of real non watered down gasoline stabilizer. then pump gas.
it is still good to use up to 3 years latter. and no rust, or water in the cans.
if not for the miles and time just to get real gasoline. i would only fill with that fuel and stabilizer.
I bought three Chinese jerry cans cause I did not know what they really were. Gave one away, using two to rotate gas. Last week I went to empty the Jerry can and it only had half the gas. I thought I only used half but set on ground and saw a wet spot on the bottom. No wonder the shed smelled like gasoline! I did not think those welds were very trust worthy and I was right. I emptied it out and walked it aross the street. Set on the side walk outside a storage unit with a Free sign on it. Said leaks at bottom. A spot weld will fix, good luck. It was gone in 4 minutes. Just order some used NATO used cans from the guide. If I like them no need for another wavian.
WHY is THE SOUND ON THE RIGHT SPEAKER?
the entre point of the recessed weld it to prevent it from being a point of impact.... a strike to a weld breaks them... idea being it wont burst open if it falls off a truck or gets tossed around in the cargo durring a turbulent ride.... the other two are shit for that reason
2022-03--06 The Wavian cans are selling for $129 each at the link you provided! Yikes.
When I was in the Army, I LOATHED the 5 gallon cans we used with the screw on threads, rusty innards, and flex spout that always had dirt in it. I never was exposed to the superior WW2 German design that is still the best.
The Brits copied Germany's 20 liter can almost precisely, the U.S. had to go and design their own.
Midwest Can Company has full weld, made in USA and has a liner to prevent rust.
nope. the midwest steel jerry is NOT made in the usa. its made by val pro in latvia.
@@MrSGL21 this is correct. The sticker even says ‘Made in Latvia.’ Also the VALPRO Webaite says that it makes cans for Wavian, Striggs and Bratton, and Midwest Can.
@@GFO270 I know I have five of them
@@MrSGL21 lol I was just reaffirming your comment for any passerby’s who had doubts 😉
@@GFO270 :)
I ordered a waving gas can with spout for $ 80.00. From Midwest Jeep
1900 E College Ave. #112
Normal, I’ll, 61761
Ordered about 8 months ago and never got my can. I called them and the had a message they had moved to their home to do operations.
I went to their web. Site and they were gone. I was cheated out of the can. No way to find them.
I'll just buy the old surplus cans. Cheap AND quality.
How do you find these?
Everyone says this but dont share the suppliers
@@notabot855 They were once easily obtainable at Sportsman's Guide and at Cheaper Than Dirt.
Doesn’t the red tag say for portable water only on the black can
Yes, to comply with EPA laws they had to put a tag that says that.
That's non _potable._
Thanks for the info
Do all the GELGs have the non-flush seam or is this just an anomaly on the can in the video?
Thanks. I will better buy two gelg for the price of one Valpro
Ahhh. German engineering. 😍
So how are the metal can's at Harbor Freight compair? Thanks!
Great video!
i do not know the name of the brand. but the caps are screwed on. of all the ones i have over a good 40 years now never had a leaker. inside coated? as the cans if i do not use them for a long time i put used oil in them. so no resting ( plus the weight of the oil in the cans works great as a dead weight to help keep thieves from opening my garage door).
they have been banged around a lot. no issues.
i also have a couple cal approved safety cans.
only metal gas can here. these can burp. i like cans the are sealed up. now if only i could find a good source for pure gasoline. not the watered down trash fuel.
maybe i will start “re-refining “my gasoline to clean it up.
I thought GELG was - is a USA brand out of Georgia?
Importer.
By any chance did you weigh your Wavian can before you filled it up?
Yep that Jelq lining is way better interesting
The Black GELG can is for water, the green GELG is gas, If I remember correctly. but that does not mean that they wont hold both. It was so you could tell at a look.
Sold on the Wavian!!
What about the American cans, I think they are good quality as well and for home use would be fine. In the round side you do loose some volume, but for the home user it won't matter.
Wavians are now over $100 usd
Does anyone have a US link for the 5 gal (20 liter) Gelg?
There is a you tube channel that cut the wavian in half and the lining paint had flaked
How can China expect to win a war with a can like that?
I had to cut those locking pins off mine, because I want a real padlock capable locking pin.
Jelqing is not something I expected to inspire a brand name
Those are TACK welds, not "Spot" welds.
GEGLs can is going to heat up real good under the sun.
I saw the Chinese knockoff from the thumbnail.
I prefer GELG better quality.
I'm surprised that the GELG passed the NATO certification, as the welds must not be proud of the can for it to meet the specification. Maybe they sell the rejects into the civilian market.
I have always bought from the forces surplus market, and would not dream of paying such exorbitant prices for new cans. £10 is typical, my limit is £15, and I have ones going back to WW2 made by both the British and Germans and all in perfect working order. Buy quality and you buy once. Buy sub-par copies and you'll have to replace them, sometimes more than once, during the life of the original version. As my oldest is now 82 years old and has only ever had the rubber gasket replaced (pennies, and designed for easy replacement) that philosophy seems to be holding up so far.
My 1944 dated Brit can has developed a small leak in the side.
Likely an east fix with 'JB weld' epoxy.
@@-oiiio-3993 Isn't that the first year that we produced our copies? I know that we were still using flimsies in N. Africa, as sand used to get into the trucks in transit and wear through the sides of up to half of all flimsies (which were just rounded corners on a rectangular tin, so they had flat sides for easy stacking - and they were very thin, as metal was in perilously short supply, hence the nickname) to the front, which apart from being wasteful, was a massive fire risk. So the first British copies of the classic German design must have been either 1943 or 4.
It may be worth keeping in original condition, even if that means it can't be used, as it may have collectable value far above its replacement cost. I take it that you know the year from the WD (War Department) marking stamped into the side?
@@phillee2814 Yes, that can has the 'broad arrow' with W to the left and D to the right and 1944.
I just watched a rather good vid about Gerry Can history and tit was mentioned that the Brits came into possession of German 20 liter cans during the (German) invasion of Norway in 1940 and quickly set about duplicating them.
@@-oiiio-3993 Hmm, clearly not quickly enough, as they were still using flimsies in North Africa (except when they could capture some originals from the Afrika Korps).
Both Gelg and Wavian had to meet the same requirements of NATO regulations, there are specific requirements the manufacturer has to meet to name its product compatible, so where's the fuss about the 0,1mm added thickness - try throwing a full 20 litre can, Gelg, Wavian or any other directly on concrete floor from the back of your truck- is that what you're talking about in the comments below? This product is not ment for beating, its ment for storing fuel and it does the job great - you're not driving tanks in the middle of some battlefield. Anyone imagining the're gonna escape from a bunch of zombies with their jerry cans strapped to their back is lacking common sense. Go and buy Presson for twice the price of Gelg and you'll still get more or lesss the same stuff - in case somebody paid enough effort to find out they both might just be made in the same factory in Poland, only you pay add. money for the Pressol logo:)
for short term and small storage for emergency, is the plastic can is cheaper and more eco and last longer? 4 x 5L good quality plastic can is cheaper than 1 x 20L cheapest metal can
i dont buy wavien because there coating inside is water soluble, my job is to transport jerry cans full of water to farmers in the outback for there tractors radiators, the jerry can is what we use because in outback heat plastic jerries just melt, a real jerry should be able to take water no bother, if it cant do that, its not even worth the cost of materials
The French military had porcelain lined steel wine cans of the 'Gerry can' type.
Valpro/Wavian makes the gas cans for NATO as well so they are also the real deal they have all the same
reqiourments as the GELG cans and have better welds than the GELG has.
You can buy the Valpro/Wavion can at Harbor Freight for $44.99. They are sold under the MidWest
lable but they are made by Valpro/Wavian imported by Midwest from Valpro/Wavian.
The Valpro/Valpro sold by Harbour Freight is the civilian version and has the EPA mandated plastic safety
pouring spout on it. You should do more research before doing a comparison because you are wrong on the
Valpro/Wavian being more exspensive.
What, the chinese can is a poor copy and bad quality? I'm so surpised!
Buy the German one. We invented and made that thing perfect.
I bet you weren't there when it was invented.
I bought a chinese can, and its lasted only a couple of weeks. It blew up like an egg on a warm day, and then collapsed on a cold night causing the whole can to look like a crumpled mess -- absolute Chinese tat !!!!!!
Valpro The best
I will go for Gelg.
I advise you to do more research....This video is lacking
One would think, that everyone knows to stay clear of Chinese products of this type, by now ..!
Jerry's cans not jerry!
Actually _Gerry Cans_.
Gerry was Brit for German soldiers dating to WW1.
Why don't you get a quality Chinese can rather than a cheap one for your comparison?
Examples of factories and manufacturers? Its hard for U.S. consumers to be able to tell the difference online. That is why its riskier to purchase unknown Chinese products.
China has a horrendous history and reputation for counterfeit products. Until China has a certification system that can be trusted (not just printing certification details on goods) , "quality" will not be something consumers will ever associate with China.
Right now? We want to hear LESS about the communist tyrants! Forget about doing business with them!!
@@explore_moor China's business plan is to cheaply copy anything they can with an eye to undermining the USA. Taiwan is better until the mainland takes it over.
Wavian is the best built .