If your going to buy your Dirac Live licence for the Focus use this link here dirac.ink/pursuitperfectsystem I hope you enjoyed the video, just to point out maths is not my strongest point and I got the total amplifiers power wrong - the three amplifiers in each speaker totals to 670 watts each, not 600 watts - sorry about that. I meant to say over 600 :)
Thanks for this very detailed and informative review. Is it possible to do another video for sound quality demo especially before and after Dirac live?
Hi Terry, great video again. I also have also Dirac live with a full frequency licence. What do you recommend when i do a measurment for stereo listening, wide, spot focus, or wide focused? Thanks for your help and keep your videos up.
For people wanting to find out what other wireless active powered HiFi systems there are out there. I came across the Nubert NUPro XS-6000, XS-8000 Wireless floorstanders. No one in the UK or US has reviewed them unfortunately. Then you have DALI's Oberon 7C, Rubicon 6C, 8C, Callisto 6C active powered Wireless Floorstanders. Alternatively there are Dynaudio Focus 30 active Wireless Floorstander. Q Acoustic 400 active Wireless Floorstanders. There's also the KEF LS60 active wireless Floorstander. Then there is AudioPro's A48 active wireless Floorstander, the Buchardt A700 active Wireless Floostander. Elac Navi F51 active Wireless Floorstander. If anyone knows of any other brands making active powered wireless systems please let me know. Because i am looking for my next active network speakers aswell.
Interesting comments, to be fair I haven’t seen sonar works in the flesh so can’t comment on that. For me Dirac’s impulse response correction makes it stand out as I think there is only 1 other company who has made this work. Then when ART comes to the market it’s game over for everyone else :)
I did the calibration on them, I only had about 10 minutes to do I would normally spend a lot longer but that is all the time I had before the show but glad you liked the sound, they are surprisingly good speakers
This is a beautiful set of speakers, at this price I would definitely use the cable to get the best sound out of them. Thank you for another presentation worth taking time for 🙏🏾
Hi Terry! Very good review! I have the Focus 30 in a 3m x 4m room. I want to optimize with Dirac Live - do you recommend the version for full bandwith (and for what reason) or do you think limited version is sufficient? Thank you very much!
Hi Terry. I've been waiting for ages to see this review. My question is would these fit in a room 11'3"" wide by 16' long or would it be better for me to go for the model below it? Great review btw.
Appreciate your time & efforts as always Terry. Very useful as the Focus 50 is on my short list to purchase, though unfortunately not available to audition in my location. This may be an unfair question, but it’s on my mind so presumably some other might be wondering as well. Without a comparison it’s hard to know what peers the Focus 50 is competing with, and knowing they sound “good” or “great” doesn’t tend to help without a reference, so though it may be difficult to answer, if you were to create a comparable system (or systems) of separates based on sound quality alone, what might that system/those systems be?
I agree with this comparisons are not that easy, because no other streaming active speaker offers the same as these, no Dirac that would be a no go for me. So to get the same performance from separates maybe you can do it with some evoke 50 and some system components but it wont be the same for practical as well sonic reasons. I couldn’t come up with anything relevant but I will be comparing any others I see in the future to these. But my explanation of their sound is comparing to every other hifi / speaker system I have had in for review all of them and these are going toe to toe with most of them even wirelessly connected together but defo when connected via a cable. These sound like your listening to very good hifi components not any less in some regards more actually.
I like detailed reviews, this one remained a bit superficial, you didn’t even comment on the DAC that is built in. However, you gave yourself an idea for a future video, to make a comparison between different room correction/optimization systems. And don’t leave out Linn’s Space Optimization. 😊 I don’t understand why British reviewers overlook often their own brands.
I think that is fair criticism and I kind of agree with you. However I felt because the nature of a product like this is all in one the small details like which DAC chips are being used really are insignificant because you cant change them and cant compare them because your looking at a full system and its entire integration. So I chose to focus excuse the pun on the major factors like features and flexibility, sound quality of course and what makes these speakers stand out, which is in house driver design and quality and dirac live. Also I have just been criticised for reviewing only British products so it shows you cant win
OK..I listened to Colter Wall…and LIKED it……as I am sitting there saying "DUDE you are listening to Cowboy Music!". 🤠….hours later I am in my car and I hear this: Charley Crockett: "Trinity River" off "The Man From Waco" album. I came home and gleefully listened to the entire album. I like Cowboy Music…🤠🤠🤠 ??? HUH? LOL! What’s going on here? GREAT ALBUM!…Check it out. "Trinity River" is FANTASTIC!
Each to their own of course but I think having a break out box doesn’t make any sense when you think about it when you can connect wirelessly straight to the speakers. It’s adding another box for no benefit
@@PursuitPerfectSystem i have a ls50wireless2 system ... ok i can stream to it but lets be honest it has to be connected to the TV for 90% of the customers ... so i have a cable running from the TV to the speaker ... than a network cable between the 2 speakers ... than a cable going from the speaker to the sub ... etc etc etc ... not very wireless
Yeah I understand that, its the same with these to a degree, the wireless aspect is an option. The one big thing woth these if your TV has WiSA built in you dont need a cable from the tv to them so that is an advantage
I still listing to Dynaudio Focus 200 XD the first gen, i have no urgency to upgrade, the new focus still can not play DSD !, and the price is still not friendly for every joe !
I enjoy music, I listen for 2 to 4 hours a day. I appreciate that you enjoy your room connection and the sound that it produces. But, room treatments and room correction seems to take the fun factor out of listening to music. My less than $5000 system has a quarter sphere of sound that is fantastic and I have nothing to correct or absorb the sound coming from my speakers except a rug and nearby furniture. I’m not a fan of powered speakers, probably due to the fact that the few dealers in my area have never demonstrated any, so I have no way of reviewing them.
You don’t absorb the sound coming from the speakers you absorb the reflected sound coming from the walls ceiling floor etc that smears the sound your speakers are making causing a distortion. You can get used to hearing this distortion if you listen to it long enough but it’s still a distortion. We can’t fix all things for our audio system but it doesn’t mean we should not be mindful of them and open minded to what removing that distortion can do for our sound quality. First step is usually measuring, when you see what you thought was perfect audio looking anything but it’s the first shock to the system that one sometimes needs to see the extent of the problem. That is what happened to me and also I listened to a system in a professionally treated room and there was no going back for me after that, obsession was sunk right in
I don’t see see how a couple of plain white bass traps in the corners behind your speakers would take away any fun. Biggest upgrade I ever made even though it sounded fine to me beforehand. My experience was exact same as Terry’s in hearing a properly treated room (same room in fact) and being blown away by it. You can experiment with rolled up blankets/duvets and don’t need to go full on with measuring. Remember that only half of what you hear is sound from the speakers, the rest is reflected and arrives at your ears just after.
This is a good point made Daniel, at the end of the day not every one can have room treatments and they can still enjoy their hifis just as much which is very important, adding treatment does not take away any fun, in fact in a treated room you can listen louder and for longer as you get less fatigue and so do your neighbours in some regards so that is a benefit too. Dirac Live opens up a whole new set of things to think about and tools to use to get better sound in your room. Maybe things become a little more technical but this is also educational because your learning more about what you are hearing. I think audiophiles can be guilty of having excellent knowledge and experience of the gear but not much understanding of how sound works in rooms because its the less sexy thing to want to learn about and its mostly all bad news as well when you do. The first time you measure your system in your room is the most heart breaking thing you will ever do because in your mind of how things sound is nothing like how the system measures in the room and its an extreme shock to the system when you see it. It ruined me for years
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Very true, since I added treatment I no longer get complaints from family in adjoining rooms about the booming bass. More of it stays in the room and is clean and clear. I think some bass treatment is essential in our typically small UK rooms.
Remember that is for a whole high end hifi system with tech in it that’s hard to get elsewhere. It’s a lot of money at once but it’s your whole system for that money
Somehow, I just can’t get behind room correction wholeheartedly. I tried Dirac Live, but something about it sucked the life out of the music. Feels unnatural and artificial somehow.
I have used Dirac Live on over 150 systems all over the world and it’s never done that but it’s possible to use it incorrectly and then you hear that you have done that. In fact at the recent Bristol hifi show I used it on the Focus 50 that were being demod by Dynaudio. It didnt do that to them either. Dirac does what you ask it to so when people comment about this experience I can tell it’s just how it’s been used. For worth bearing in mind and seeing if you can get a demo when an experienced person using it has done the cal.
I get that "sucked out" sound from Audyssey, but I've never used Dirac. My Denon receiver also has no adjustment to it's room correction. There's no separate EQ where I can fluff things out. It's take it or leave it. It's also a complaint against Audyssey and not Dirac.
bass or too much bass robs all the midrange magic that is possible from your loudspeakers or monitors, and also from recordings, which also robs the midrange and top end with dynamics. At just under £9000, the dynaudio's are not worth it. There are better options for higher quality resolution for a little more money. For example can buy the much better performing ATC SCM45A monitors for around the £10,000 new, and if you found a used pair, they will undercut the price of the dynaudio's. I prefer detailed clarity with dynamics, and not loudspeakers or monitors that are just not up to the job of giving you this . Spend more on more expensive ATC''s and you will still get higher performance, example ATC SCM110ASL if you want bass performance with clarity, etc .
Ian I always enjoy reading your comments, I am sure even you will admit you are totally one manufacturer biased to the point that ATC should hire you to do their PR. Its a bit a silly really however you bring up something very intersting here with the SCM45A being a competitor which they are not due to their price being much higher, their design and intended user being totally different to the Focus 50. The closest competitor from ATC to the Focus 50 for price and design is the SCM40A but in order for the 40A to get even close to the features and flexibility and sound of the Focus 50 you would need to add a Streamer DAC and Pre that features Dirac Live and even then it wont be the same and will cost more. Then for the sound to be close you would need at least one sub woofer probably two and you then have a lot more complexity and more cost still. That does not mean the more complexity and cost would be better sound either given how well done the Focus are, thats the unbiased reality so when you think about it without extreme bias what is the better choice here really? Hence my comment these Focus are offering a very unique proposition currently in the market Too much bass does not ruin anything, if you look at the science of human hearing you will see humans need a huge amount of bass spl to sound correct - look at PA systems built for outdoor sound and the sound targets they design them to as a result of this. Too much bass only becomes an issue with poor small room acoustics which you dont have to worry about if your system has Dirac Live in it. Not having enough bass is worse than too much as everything sound cold hollow and unnatural, especially vocals and its extremely difficult to do anything about it. Bass is the foundation all the other sound is built on, if you dont have enough at the bottom you cant have enough at the top so you squash your dynamics not improve them.
Why aren't you listening to the record if you've got it? 🥴 Get yourself a Spartan 15 phono stage £300 by classic audio, done let the price put you off can compete with multiple thousand pounds Very good better than that. Or could try the base model at 150£ Spartan 5, that is still very good. Its inferior to have speakers on the sides, you need speakers in the middle is the proper way. You use the room as the live environment how it should be and then you don't need to dampen it.
I have listens to hifi in live rooms and treated rooms. Treated rooms sound better every time imo high decay times in rooms does not sound good and does not sound natural. Go outside there is no decay time there and everything sounds natural outside
@@PursuitPerfectSystem yeah in a traditional sense yes but that's not what I'm talking about. When you listen to a live artist the room is acting as part of the music
@@PursuitPerfectSystem well not true necessarily there is ambient reflections from the stage and audience it's not truly outside but yes it's less apparent
Yes this could be true for some singers that use headset style mics that use lav capsules that are likely omni, but really the sound engineer wouldnt want that as its going to mess with things maybe they not omni . I am pretty sure the traditional live microphone are dynamic and likely super cardiod so only have a very narrow pick up pattern. I only know about this as I use mics all the time so had to learn about it, its interesting gives you a new perspective on it. I think a lot of what I listen to is created rather than an organic recording but maybe in the different genre like classical for example its different. Its a very interesting topic similar to acoustics
If your going to buy your Dirac Live licence for the Focus use this link here dirac.ink/pursuitperfectsystem
I hope you enjoyed the video, just to point out maths is not my strongest point and I got the total amplifiers power wrong - the three amplifiers in each speaker totals to 670 watts each, not 600 watts - sorry about that. I meant to say over 600 :)
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🙋♂️THANKS TERRY , FOR SHARING THIS WITH US… long in the tooth 🦷 and newbie’s as well 👍😎💚💚💚
Excellent review!
room correction is really amazing and in certain situations 100% mandatory
Thanks for this very detailed and informative review. Is it possible to do another video for sound quality demo especially before and after Dirac live?
Finally...!!! A great review of this particular set. Thank you. (You should have stood up next to them for scale purposes, just for reference)
Yeah good point, sorry about that
You were close when you popped the grill off and I was surprised that they were shorter than I expected.
Hi Terry, great video again. I also have also Dirac live with a full frequency licence. What do you recommend when i do a measurment for stereo listening, wide, spot focus, or wide focused? Thanks for your help and keep your videos up.
For people wanting to find out what other wireless active powered HiFi systems there are out there. I came across the Nubert NUPro XS-6000, XS-8000 Wireless floorstanders. No one in the UK or US has reviewed them unfortunately. Then you have DALI's Oberon 7C, Rubicon 6C, 8C, Callisto 6C active powered Wireless Floorstanders. Alternatively there are Dynaudio Focus 30 active Wireless Floorstander. Q Acoustic 400 active Wireless Floorstanders. There's also the KEF LS60 active wireless Floorstander. Then there is AudioPro's A48 active wireless Floorstander, the Buchardt A700 active Wireless Floostander. Elac Navi F51 active Wireless Floorstander. If anyone knows of any other brands making active powered wireless systems please let me know. Because i am looking for my next active network speakers aswell.
LUXMAN 509Z is on the way! can't wait for your analyse!
Nice review Terry! 👌Much as I like Dirac Live, Sound ID Reference sounds cleaner and is more accurate IMO.
Interesting comments, to be fair I haven’t seen sonar works in the flesh so can’t comment on that. For me Dirac’s impulse response correction makes it stand out as I think there is only 1 other company who has made this work. Then when ART comes to the market it’s game over for everyone else :)
I listened to these at the Bristol HiFi show ….. very impressive!
I did the calibration on them, I only had about 10 minutes to do I would normally spend a lot longer but that is all the time I had before the show but glad you liked the sound, they are surprisingly good speakers
Nice review !
Could you review the all new Qualio Audio IQ Loudspeakers designed by Cube Audio next ?
Thank You
They look very interesting thanks for bringing them to my attention
Nice one Terry 👌
Thanks Jim
@@PursuitPerfectSystem you are welcome my friend, ❤️ your channel. 👌
This guy seems like he knows what he's talking about 😉👏
Na I hired him , cost me a fortune for the day , and spent half the day on a zoom call to you guys . 😜
Sorry about that mate, that is the only time I have ever done that :)
Hey Terry
I was only joking .
You turned up from a long journey, done what you had to do . And did it well and changed my system into something great.
I know mate, but an apology still felt in order and I really appreciated your patience with it going on. Not very professional of me.
@@redleather100 We’ll buy you a beer next time you’re in Denmark 😁
This is a beautiful set of speakers, at this price I would definitely use the cable to get the best sound out of them. Thank you for another presentation worth taking time for 🙏🏾
But then they not really ‘wireless’
Hi Terry! Very good review! I have the Focus 30 in a 3m x 4m room. I want to optimize with Dirac Live - do you recommend the version for full bandwith (and for what reason) or do you think limited version is sufficient? Thank you very much!
I would always use the full freq so that I have full control over the whole sound and so that I get the full frequency impulse response correction too
Hi Terry. I've been waiting for ages to see this review. My question is would these fit in a room 11'3"" wide by 16' long or would it be better for me to go for the model below it? Great review btw.
Thats a similar sized room to mine and with Dirac you cant make them work no problem
@@PursuitPerfectSystem surely you mean and with Dirac you can make them work, no problem, lol :) ?
Thank you. So enjoyable as always. I was wondering what sources you'd recommend for them?
Have you ever used a PSI AVAA to combat bass room modes?
I am old school..but you are elevating my audio awareness, while making me love my white DynAudio Contour 20s even MORE!!! 😊👍🏼
Great review, Terry!
Thanks Bob and thanks for always watching
Manufacturer says the speakers response is 18Hz - 36KHz at -6dB. What does this mean and how loud is -6dB ?
Appreciate your time & efforts as always Terry. Very useful as the Focus 50 is on my short list to purchase, though unfortunately not available to audition in my location. This may be an unfair question, but it’s on my mind so presumably some other might be wondering as well. Without a comparison it’s hard to know what peers the Focus 50 is competing with, and knowing they sound “good” or “great” doesn’t tend to help without a reference, so though it may be difficult to answer, if you were to create a comparable system (or systems) of separates based on sound quality alone, what might that system/those systems be?
I agree with this comparisons are not that easy, because no other streaming active speaker offers the same as these, no Dirac that would be a no go for me.
So to get the same performance from separates maybe you can do it with some evoke 50 and some system components but it wont be the same for practical as well sonic reasons.
I couldn’t come up with anything relevant but I will be comparing any others I see in the future to these. But my explanation of their sound is comparing to every other hifi / speaker system I have had in for review all of them and these are going toe to toe with most of them even wirelessly connected together but defo when connected via a cable. These sound like your listening to very good hifi components not any less in some regards more actually.
I like detailed reviews, this one remained a bit superficial, you didn’t even comment on the DAC that is built in. However, you gave yourself an idea for a future video, to make a comparison between different room correction/optimization systems. And don’t leave out Linn’s Space Optimization. 😊 I don’t understand why British reviewers overlook often their own brands.
I think that is fair criticism and I kind of agree with you. However I felt because the nature of a product like this is all in one the small details like which DAC chips are being used really are insignificant because you cant change them and cant compare them because your looking at a full system and its entire integration. So I chose to focus excuse the pun on the major factors like features and flexibility, sound quality of course and what makes these speakers stand out, which is in house driver design and quality and dirac live.
Also I have just been criticised for reviewing only British products so it shows you cant win
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Pleasing everyone is a form of art nobody masters 😉
Seems very unlikely anyone would spend £9k on this sleek system then add an external DAC adding clutter and wires.
The Kef LS60's would be a great alternative
Yes in a way, but not really for the visual styling and No Dirac Live means I would not be interested in them
Very nice idea. But what if you have got thousands of cds and vinyl records😁
Ok stop work….. must watch this 👍😇🌈
Great comment cheers
Nice review but don’t get Americanised Terry, please use “high frequencies” instead of “highs”
Hahaha
So these are basically a wireless powered Dynaudio Evoke?
Not really just a familiar form factor
OK..I listened to Colter Wall…and LIKED it……as I am sitting there saying "DUDE you are listening to Cowboy Music!". 🤠….hours later I am in my car and I hear this: Charley Crockett: "Trinity River" off "The Man From Waco" album. I came home and gleefully listened to the entire album. I like Cowboy Music…🤠🤠🤠 ??? HUH? LOL! What’s going on here? GREAT ALBUM!…Check it out. "Trinity River" is FANTASTIC!
Cheer Bob I will check that one out. Have you seen Yellowstone, makes you want to be a cowboy even more :)
i much prefer the approach of buchardt ... a tiny hub which can be hide away to receive all the cables and wirelessly connected to the 2 speakers
Each to their own of course but I think having a break out box doesn’t make any sense when you think about it when you can connect wirelessly straight to the speakers. It’s adding another box for no benefit
@@PursuitPerfectSystem i have a ls50wireless2 system ... ok i can stream to it but lets be honest it has to be connected to the TV for 90% of the customers ... so i have a cable running from the TV to the speaker ... than a network cable between the 2 speakers ... than a cable going from the speaker to the sub ... etc etc etc ...
not very wireless
Yeah I understand that, its the same with these to a degree, the wireless aspect is an option. The one big thing woth these if your TV has WiSA built in you dont need a cable from the tv to them so that is an advantage
I still listing to Dynaudio Focus 200 XD the first gen, i have no urgency to upgrade, the new focus still can not play DSD !, and the price is still not friendly for every joe !
I enjoy music, I listen for 2 to 4 hours a day. I appreciate that you enjoy your room connection and the sound that it produces. But, room treatments and room correction seems to take the fun factor out of listening to music. My less than $5000 system has a quarter sphere of sound that is fantastic and I have nothing to correct or absorb the sound coming from my speakers except a rug and nearby furniture.
I’m not a fan of powered speakers, probably due to the fact that the few dealers in my area have never demonstrated any, so I have no way of reviewing them.
You don’t absorb the sound coming from the speakers you absorb the reflected sound coming from the walls ceiling floor etc that smears the sound your speakers are making causing a distortion. You can get used to hearing this distortion if you listen to it long enough but it’s still a distortion. We can’t fix all things for our audio system but it doesn’t mean we should not be mindful of them and open minded to what removing that distortion can do for our sound quality.
First step is usually measuring, when you see what you thought was perfect audio looking anything but it’s the first shock to the system that one sometimes needs to see the extent of the problem. That is what happened to me and also I listened to a system in a professionally treated room and there was no going back for me after that, obsession was sunk right in
I don’t see see how a couple of plain white bass traps in the corners behind your speakers would take away any fun.
Biggest upgrade I ever made even though it sounded fine to me beforehand. My experience was exact same as Terry’s in hearing a properly treated room (same room in fact) and being blown away by it.
You can experiment with rolled up blankets/duvets and don’t need to go full on with measuring. Remember that only half of what you hear is sound from the speakers, the rest is reflected and arrives at your ears just after.
This is a good point made Daniel, at the end of the day not every one can have room treatments and they can still enjoy their hifis just as much which is very important, adding treatment does not take away any fun, in fact in a treated room you can listen louder and for longer as you get less fatigue and so do your neighbours in some regards so that is a benefit too.
Dirac Live opens up a whole new set of things to think about and tools to use to get better sound in your room. Maybe things become a little more technical but this is also educational because your learning more about what you are hearing. I think audiophiles can be guilty of having excellent knowledge and experience of the gear but not much understanding of how sound works in rooms because its the less sexy thing to want to learn about and its mostly all bad news as well when you do. The first time you measure your system in your room is the most heart breaking thing you will ever do because in your mind of how things sound is nothing like how the system measures in the room and its an extreme shock to the system when you see it. It ruined me for years
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Very true, since I added treatment I no longer get complaints from family in adjoining rooms about the booming bass.
More of it stays in the room and is clean and clear. I think some bass treatment is essential in our typically small UK rooms.
£8,700!
I wish i had a Brit filter on you tube
Interesting one this is the Brit filter to filter us out or just filter us in? Should I be insulted or are you trying to make my day ?
"Wow, these seem wonderful"
*looks up the price, which is, say it with me, $11,301* 😢
Remember that is for a whole high end hifi system with tech in it that’s hard to get elsewhere. It’s a lot of money at once but it’s your whole system for that money
I will never do wireless for my main system
Somehow, I just can’t get behind room correction wholeheartedly. I tried Dirac Live, but something about it sucked the life out of the music. Feels unnatural and artificial somehow.
I have used Dirac Live on over 150 systems all over the world and it’s never done that but it’s possible to use it incorrectly and then you hear that you have done that. In fact at the recent Bristol hifi show I used it on the Focus 50 that were being demod by Dynaudio. It didnt do that to them either. Dirac does what you ask it to so when people comment about this experience I can tell it’s just how it’s been used. For worth bearing in mind and seeing if you can get a demo when an experienced person using it has done the cal.
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Thank you for the detailed response. Thanks for the tip!
I have bought the dynaudio focus 50 with dirac. I am so happy with these speakers..such a great sound with a lot of space!
@@carlojanssen870are they
Loud enough?
I get that "sucked out" sound from Audyssey, but I've never used Dirac. My Denon receiver also has no adjustment to it's room correction. There's no separate EQ where I can fluff things out. It's take it or leave it. It's also a complaint against Audyssey and not Dirac.
bass or too much bass robs all the midrange magic that is possible from your loudspeakers or monitors, and also from recordings, which also robs the midrange and top end with dynamics. At just under £9000, the dynaudio's are not worth it. There are better options for higher quality resolution for a little more money. For example can buy the much better performing ATC SCM45A monitors for around the £10,000 new, and if you found a used pair, they will undercut the price of the dynaudio's. I prefer detailed clarity with dynamics, and not loudspeakers or monitors that are just not up to the job of giving you this . Spend more on more expensive ATC''s and you will still get higher performance, example ATC SCM110ASL if you want bass performance with clarity, etc .
Ian I always enjoy reading your comments, I am sure even you will admit you are totally one manufacturer biased to the point that ATC should hire you to do their PR. Its a bit a silly really however you bring up something very intersting here with the SCM45A being a competitor which they are not due to their price being much higher, their design and intended user being totally different to the Focus 50.
The closest competitor from ATC to the Focus 50 for price and design is the SCM40A but in order for the 40A to get even close to the features and flexibility and sound of the Focus 50 you would need to add a Streamer DAC and Pre that features Dirac Live and even then it wont be the same and will cost more. Then for the sound to be close you would need at least one sub woofer probably two and you then have a lot more complexity and more cost still. That does not mean the more complexity and cost would be better sound either given how well done the Focus are, thats the unbiased reality so when you think about it without extreme bias what is the better choice here really? Hence my comment these Focus are offering a very unique proposition currently in the market
Too much bass does not ruin anything, if you look at the science of human hearing you will see humans need a huge amount of bass spl to sound correct - look at PA systems built for outdoor sound and the sound targets they design them to as a result of this. Too much bass only becomes an issue with poor small room acoustics which you dont have to worry about if your system has Dirac Live in it. Not having enough bass is worse than too much as everything sound cold hollow and unnatural, especially vocals and its extremely difficult to do anything about it. Bass is the foundation all the other sound is built on, if you dont have enough at the bottom you cant have enough at the top so you squash your dynamics not improve them.
Why aren't you listening to the record if you've got it? 🥴
Get yourself a Spartan 15 phono stage £300 by classic audio, done let the price put you off can compete with multiple thousand pounds Very good better than that. Or could try the base model at 150£ Spartan 5, that is still very good.
Its inferior to have speakers on the sides, you need speakers in the middle is the proper way. You use the room as the live environment how it should be and then you don't need to dampen it.
I have listens to hifi in live rooms and treated rooms. Treated rooms sound better every time imo high decay times in rooms does not sound good and does not sound natural. Go outside there is no decay time there and everything sounds natural outside
@@PursuitPerfectSystem yeah in a traditional sense yes but that's not what I'm talking about. When you listen to a live artist the room is acting as part of the music
Not if they are performing outdoors or with a microphone - the microphone doesn't pick up the room its designed to do the opposite.
@@PursuitPerfectSystem well not true necessarily there is ambient reflections from the stage and audience it's not truly outside but yes it's less apparent
Yes this could be true for some singers that use headset style mics that use lav capsules that are likely omni, but really the sound engineer wouldnt want that
as its going to mess with things maybe they not omni . I am pretty sure the traditional live microphone are dynamic and likely super cardiod so only have a very narrow pick up pattern. I only know about this as I use mics all the time so had to learn about it, its interesting gives you a new perspective on it.
I think a lot of what I listen to is created rather than an organic recording but maybe in the different genre like classical for example its different. Its a very interesting topic similar to acoustics