To anyone going for their CFSC & CRFSC i'll give you a run down of how my practical went down. You'll walk into the room in a 1 on 1 environment and he will probably ask you to name/pick out certain types of ammo such as a 2 3/4 12ga shotgun shell or a 9mm soft point. Don't worry if you don't know what they are right now you'll learn this in the course. Then they will ask you to pick up a firearm but they will not tell you what to do ( you need to ACTS prove ) then you'll have to load the firearm then they will say "put it down" which also means you need to ACTS prove again. You'll repeat this process 3-5 times depending on the firearms kit the instructor has. Personally my Non-restricted course practical was done on a 12GA Break shotgun, .22 lever action and a 30-06 bolt action. For my Restricted practical it was done on a double action only glock 22, double action 38 special and a single action .357 Magnum. Tips!!@!! If the firearm has a grip just grab the grip and dont even put your finger anywhere near the trigger/trigger guard (you'll lose -2 points if you finger goes in the trigger guard), ensure you point the firearm in the designated safe area ( with handguns its super easy to accidentally go off course ), Before even picking up any of the firearms look at the ammo on the table and make sure its compatible with the firearm also use the stock or the grip and flip the firearm to look at the data stamp to reduce the chance of you pointing it in a bad direction or touching the trigger. If you are tested on the glock the slide is very hard to pull back if you have sweaty hands so bring a cloth or something. If you point the firearm anyone you auto fail. GL hope this helps :D
To ease everyone’s nerves, if you’re here and watched all of his videos on the course, you’re already ahead of the game and on your way to passing. This channel helped me to a 100/98. Just ensure your time at the tables is spent learning each gun and then muscle memory the acts prove. We went to the tables 4 times during the day before the actual exam.
Hi Adam! So I just wanted to let you know that I passed the CFSC with 100% in both written and practical. I really appreciate everything you showed me here and everything you explained. I wish I could shake your hand. Anyway to everyone else that's getting ready for their exam, let me explain how mine went. It was a class of 6 with 4 firearms that we had to work with. We used a break action, lever action, semi automatic action and pump action. There was a bolt action as well but we didn't work with it. Before anything we had to identify ammo from a selection he had on the counter. We had to find a rim fire, a 12 gauge, a 3 inch shell and then tell him the name of 2 other ones. From there we started the real practical. The exam started with a clear identification of the firing line, cease fire line, down range safe zone and an upper safe zone. He told us to pick up a break action shotgun, which we were supposed to prove it safe. Then he'd ask what ammo fits into the chamber, after we told him we were told to load it. Then he told us to take a firing stance, followed by a cease fire command. We'd prove the firearm safe and step back after setting it down. Pump action was next, he told us to pick it up. Put the safety on and prove it safe. Then he told us to load 2 shells into the firearm and chamber one of them. Then we had to take a 2 handed carry position and walk toward a wall, stop, turn around with the firearm still pointed safely, then back to the firing line. You then prove it safe again and set it down. Next was the lever action. Prove it safe, then lower the hammer into the half cock position. Then set it down with the action open. He then asked 4 questions: How would you travel with thah firearm, how would you store that firearm at home, how would you store the ammo to that firearm and how you'd store the firearm if you didn't have a locked container or anything similar. After that we had to pick up and prove a semi automatic safe, then set it down. Everything in the practical exam we did in class, every question, every firearm, every action you take it's all covered. So just try to breath, relax, realize all these weapons are disabled and most importantly, ask ALOT of questions. My instructor never got mad at questions, and we ended up running 2 hours longer than we wanted to. Good luck friends.
Excellent video, we need more instructors like yourself. I went to do a motorcycle exam back when I was in my mid 20's and I showed up with the only bike I had available for the test, my 2001 R6 yamaha (a 600cc crotch rocket style bike meant for speed). The examiner told me first hand that she did not like the bike, she tried very hard to find anything wrong with it preventing me from doing the test, during the exam she wouldn't even test me properly because of her disapproval of the style of bike, I did everything correctly and still didn't get the license, the rider before me messed up several sections on his moped style bike and got his license. I went home upset, she went home thinking she saved my life. a month later I retested with a different examiner who didn't care at all about the style of bike and passed me 100% and I've been riding for 10+ years now with no problems. The point of this story is that we are lucky to have people like you who take the time and make sure that the student properly understands the course and passes knowing the correct information, instead of having someone that decides from the start who they will pass and who they will fail based on their opinion of someone they just met.
Thanks for that. I have to promise to get my 2005 Shadow 750 out this year... They don't do the firearms courses much over the Summer, so more evenings to ride. That's what I try to keep in mind, the whole time - students are not familiar with anything in the course (well, some are), so I have to get the info into them, then get it out without their nerves getting in the way. I've paused a practical, and just chatted with the candidate for a couple minutes, to get them calmed down again, only to have them pass with a very high mark, in the end.
Thank you so much for these well made and detailed videos...ended up passing my non restricted course yesterday and part of the reason I did was because of you Adam! Very good helpful advice
5 years late here but i really appreciate this video. Still thinking of diving into the combined course that's on offer nearby me. This has definitely helped calm my nerves a bit.
I completed my CFSC/CRFSC over the weekend and learned so much useful information but I ran into a couple problems never handling a firearm before in my life. When we were practicing for our practical exam I felt very rushed and I felt like I didn't get enough hands on training before going into my practical exam. I was in a class of 30 students so we had very limited time to have a 1 on 1 conversation with the instructors. I passed my written exams with ease but when it came to the practical there was one instructor out of the three examining that seemed to be failing students more than others. He told me I didn't PROVE my firearms safe even though I was running him through all the steps. I decided to retake the test even he told me I was too slow on my practical and I should come back another day. I asked to be examined by a different instructor and ended getting 100% on my practical test the same day. I don't understand why the one instructor came to the conclusion of failing me even though I explained everything to him step by step.
Could be a million reasons, but clearly since you did so well with another instructor, the problem was something to do with the first instructor. There can be a fair bit of time pressure to get all the testing done (everyone has get-home-itis), but when a student is being tested, that's the student's time. Instructor has to be patient. Not to say you'd get all day to do the work, but we realize you've only had... minutes, really, to handle the firearms. Plus, when you get your own, you're going to be working with it, dry-firing, cleaning, stripping, etc. Instructors should look beyond the nerves and fumbling, to what you actually know you need to do - not necessarily how to do it. For example, if you have to engage a safety, and say "I don't know where the safety is on this firearm" - I can't take any points off for that - you knew you needed a safety - that's the key take-away. Congrats on passing, sorry to hear you had a problem, but you made the right choice to overcome it. Safe shooting!
Crypto Davor did he walk around you? If your barrel points in an unsafe direction at any time you fail immediately. Most would give you advice after class if you asked.
WOW I do pray for an instructor with your positive mindset and helpful attitude. Doing PAL tomorrow. Watching your video filled me with confidence and calm spirit. Will report back :)
Thanks Adrian, I may not be able to look professional on a video, but as long as you get the info, that's what matters lol :) Reading the book before the course will give you a huge head-start.
I'll only know the official result in a few weeks, but the instructor winked and told me I had nothing to worry about. Thanks again, these videos helped me a lot! Cheers!
... and it'll be a mighty long wait, probably. A month after sending it in, call the Firearms Centre every two weeks... that'll give you an idea how it's doing. Congrats!
@@Noname-lm4xu The practical consists of testing that concerns your ability to properly handle a firearm. One must show aptitude in the process of picking up a weapon, inspecting the firearm, properly aiming the firearm, and safely putting down the firearm. The whole examination is very logical, and one need not to worry about failing. Sincerely, Artifind P.S: I never thought that I would receive a reply to a comment that I made almost three years ago; I hope that your exam goes well.
By types of action, do they mean all the types of semi-auto? like Roller Delayed Blowback, Gas Piston, and the like? Or am I just expected to know that it's semi-auto?
Hi Aditya! No, nothing that advanced. Break-action, bolt, lever, pump, and semi. only. The physical portion of the course just covers the basics of loading, unloading, use of safeties, and how to prove each one safe.
Thank you very much for these videos, Adam. I'll be going go my safety course on Sept 23rd and I've been watching these videos daily to better familiarize myself with things. One question though, I'm not in a situation to actually practice any of the PROVE tests myself, will there be enough practical training during the course to get used to actually handling these firearms? Thank you again.
Absolutely - you're way ahead of the class already - reading through the manual will help too. In class, they'll take you through from scratch, and you'll get instruction as you work with each firearm, then opportunity to continue to practice with them. If something doesn't make sense, they'll help you out. If you need a bit more time with one gun, watch for opportunities on breaks and over lunch. Sometimes the instructors will announce that after the class material has been covered for the day, they may stay a bit late (especially if the class ran "fast", and there is time left over, or they may come in early the next day, and offer some practice then.
@@adamsulis99 Alright perfect, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. I promised everyone around me that I'd be doing my best to learn the proper safety well before going to the class. I've read through both manuals a few times over so right now only the practical things are my concern. I really wish I lived in your province to take part in your class though! Have a great day, and thanks again.
@@Trolld I passed the written exam with 100% and practical with 100%. The restricted course is happening in a few days and I'm sure it will be the same. The course is designed in a way that makes the whole experience feel welcoming. The instructors aren't trying to fail you, they are aiming to help you fall in love with firearms. During my course I had this little dude beside me aged 12 and he passed. (Though he should have failed because he accident my did the nono, but that was before his exam).
I just searched on google, and do the places that provide the courses HAVE the test at the end of the course? And do the real life courses have a really tight and nervy atmosphere? Thanks
Hi.. I love your vidoes. I am currently taking my PAL.And RPAL course..Today I finished my PAL and passed..But I am a bit worried about the amount of time We were alotted during the practical training and test. We spent a bit over 8 hours in theory..then the written test.. then about 45 minuts practical..learning how to load amd unload safely..while keeping in line with ACTS,PROVE.This has been the first time handling a firearm for me..let alone multiple different "action" type firearms. Then the test followed.. I really dont feel we had enough time in tje practical..I passed with a 92%.But was sweating bullits during the test. Is this normal for the course?
Each province does things a bit differently, but it is a very quick course. Just enough to introduce you to the steps involved. In my courses, I always recommend that when someone buys a new firearm, they buy a package of snap caps (aluminum chunks the same shapes as many common cartridges), and learn to load, unload, etc at home (snap caps instead of live ammo). That helps you get accustomed to the new gun, before wasting ammo - but asking your local club if someone is available for coaching can help too. But yeah, very little hands on... definitely learn from watching others too :) good luck on the RPAL!
It all depends on "when". The PROVE is in the right order to remove additional ammo, then remove the one from the chamber, then inspect the barrel when it's safe to do so - and you can use a rod or a visual inspection. If you do want to look down the barrel, just tell the instructor before you do it ("I'm going to conduct a visual bore inspection"), because instructors don't like surprises :)
Good morning Inception Hunter, thanks for the question! Visual bore inspection is a valid way to check for a clear barrel (student manual, page 22), and an instructor should not dock you points, IF you do it at the proper point in the PROVE (looking down the barrel before unloading, for example, would be problem), AND because "pointing a gun at anyone, including yourself, unless performing a visual bore inspection is grounds for an immediate failure", you should always tell the instructor that you're going to conduct a visual bore inspection, before attempting it. (likewise, anytime you want to use the trigger (lowering a hammer, for example), you should tell the instructor beforehand, so he knows it's a well-thought-out action, and not an accidental one. In our classes we "mention" visual bore inspection, and we demonstrate it, but we do not advise doing it during the course (except the break-action, which you can inspect from the "safe" end), because if we get student used to doing it, we fear they'll accidentally point it at the wrong time, in such a way to lose points or cause a failure. There really is nothing a visual inspection can tell you, that a proving rod, or cleaning rod, cannot - unless you're looking at an old wartime rifle, and you're checking to see if the barrel has any rifling left or not - otherwise, the rod works just as well.
Hi Adam, is there somewhere I can go locally and pick up a Manual or is it only offered from the internet ? I am from near toronto would like to pick one up and start getting a grasp on the paper side of the test
Hi Downforce - Good question. Here in NB, we can just stop by our local Natural Resources office, but in Ontario, this may be the easiest for you: www.fseso.org/study-manuals
Downforce 666 go to buckeyes firearm training (located in the country side uxinbridge) 45 mins northeast of Toronto. The brother instructors were so laid back and helpful. U really don’t need to study or take notes in class as long as u pay attention ( most of the written test is all common sense and all T or F and multiple choice ( no written) And they were so laid back with the handling test and try to help u along the way as much as they can
Hi Adam, Ive got a question. The new rules in the 2019 regulations book states that, upon completing the CFSC successfully, I am able to hunt with a gun in my posession as long as I have my yellow certificate of completion CFSC. Is that correct? Am I able to go out by myself to hunt with my own gun? Thanks and love your videos. Im going for my CFSC next weekend and super stoked 😀
Good morning Rainy! The Safety Course Report does not provide anything special, from a legal standpoint. You still would not be licensed to own or possess a firearm. Depending on the Province, however, you may be able to hunt if you are within arm's reach of a licensed person (Direct and Immediate Supervision). Once you do get your license, things will get easier. I do get that question from time to time "do we get our license at the end of this course?" - no, the CFSC is only the first step in a multi-month (usually) journey involving lots of other steps. Get you license application in as soon as you can, and hang in there :). (edit: if you do find something different written, please see if you can find a link for me to the electronic copy - it's important that instructors stay on top of changes). Thanks
@@adamsulis99 I understand about not getting your PAL right away. The new rules that I am talking about are on page 18 of the 2019 hunting regulation summary book.
Ouf! I think that page is very poorly worded. Lemme snip out a couple bits, and see what it looks like: "If you are in possession of a gun for the purpose of hunting in Ontario, you are required to carry proof of your firearms accreditation under the Firearms Act (Canada) - this includes apprentice hunters (12-14 year old residents) who cannot yet obtain a firearms licence. "(OK, that part is fine. By itself, I would take that to mean you need a license, or a minor's license). Now let's look like the next paragraph which seems to outline what it thinks is accreditation: "In accordance with the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, every gun hunter must carry one of the following: a valid possession and acquisition licence, a valid minor’s licence, or a stamped copy of a Canadian Firearms Safety Course (CFSC) student report as official documentation showing successful completion of the CFSC (for apprentice hunters who have not yet obtained their minor’s licence). For non-residents..." So yeah, that's the messy part. See, the License means that you've gone through not only the safety course, but also the background checks, the reference checks, the mandatory 28 day waiting period, and anything else they want to throw into the mix. Otherwise, you're out as a guest and under close supervision of a licensed person, either hunting, or at a range, or whatever - the gun, the license, and the responsibility for keeping you and others safe from that gun, is his. Now according to how it's written in this Hunting Regulation, In theory, anyone could walk into a Safety course, where there is no background check, no check to see if they're violent against an Ex, or anything, and walk out with a certificate saying they know how to not point a gun at someone. But that's not supposed to be enough to let an un-checked person wander around with a gun, be it in the woods, or to and from a range. I'd definitely contact the Conservation Officers, and get an emailed/written reply, Heck, I'd even then try to call a different Conservation Officer (in another city), and get his written opinion. I just can't get my head wrapped around how a person with a stamped CFSC would be able to function - you wouldn't be able to buy a gun or ammo, so that should be the first indication that carrying it unsupervised in the woods wouldn't fly. Sorry I couldn't come up with a clear answer for you - that one just makes my head hurt. But the Natural Resources people live it every day, so hopefully they'll be able to clarify it for you. If you get something back, please do let me know - I'm super-curious to know how it would work in Ontario. In NB, the Natural Resources guys actually teach the course, along with volunteers like me, and they've never expressed any hint that a license would not be needed.
There are some who take the Safety courses for work (CBSA, CSC, others), and never plan on owning a firearm. Hopefully, you'll come out of the course knowing that the gun has no will of its own, and that it IS possible to keep a gun safe enough that it won't hurt anyone (only paper). Good luck on the Course! If you have questions, or are nervous during the tests, definitely let the instructors know.
Hi DannyFoods, The CFSC and CRFSC are primarily focused on safety, with a tiny bit of Storage, Display, and Transportation, etc thrown in. Staying legal, unfortunately, requires reading the Firearms Act, and all the enabling Regulations (Storage, Transport, and Display Regulations, Magazine Regulations, etc), and sometimes even having to review legal case files to learn how the judge interpreted something that wasn't clearly written (creating case law). All that is a lot to ask of an owner, and many do not get that far into the reading, but certainly belonging to a gun club, and a firearms org like CCFR, NFA, CSSA, etc, will help ensure that word of any major changes will reach you. Being involved in discussion groups like CanadianGunNutz will also allow you to learn from others as well. There's a lot that can jump up and bite a gun owner - being very involved in the conversations taking place will help you stay ahead of it. The country's best firearms lawyers, Solomon Friedman, Ian Runkle, and Ed Burlew, all have youtube videos where they "deep dive" into some traps owners may encounter. Very informative. Besides the Federal Regulations, it's wise to go through your province's Fish and Game Act (or whatever it's called there) - the Hunting regs can impact. For example, the Firearms Act says that to transport a non-restricted, it has to be "unloaded". That's it. However, in NB, you have to show a reason to have it (gun club, hunting license, sighting in permit) to avoid being investigated for illegal hunting. Plus there are additional factors like having to case your firearm at official darkness, which has nothing to do with driving home from the range, but can apply, nonetheless. Finally, the city or municipality may have specific bylaws related to firearms (no shooting within city limits, for example). I would feel better if the course allowed a specific provincial/municipal module to be added - the best we can do in the time we have is to point to a slide showing the three levels of Gov't, and a warning that each level may be interested in what you're doing. Stay safe!
I have my CFSC exam on July 21, but all we were given was a manual. Will I be able to pass if I've never held a gun of any sort? I'm not too sure how to prepare for the exam besides reading the manual...
Hi RM, there should be a minimum 6 hours of instruction given before you write the exam. If they are planning on giving you only the exam, I'd ask for clarification - you should be fairly comfortable in all five types of long guns, by the time of the written and practical exams.
Not officially. If you know everything, you're done in 10 minutes. If you miss a step, or spend too long with something the instructor will move on to the next step. Talking your way through the test can help keep you on track and help the instructor know if the info is in your head, or just "isn't".
@@MoonMantis-x1l Yep, very achievable. We take 2 points off each time the trigger finger is on the trigger or inside the trigger guard unnecessarily, and they do add up very quickly. Something to watch for, for anyone who was taught to shoot by family members, or folks who have owned guns a long time before taking the Safety course. Sounds like you got through it :)
It depends on the province. In NB, students leave with the course report in-hand. Other provinces make you wait (no good reason that I can guess), so you'll definitely want to get that info from the instructor or company providing the course. Have fun, and use all the time provided to work with the firearms :)
Hey Adam, I ended up running into an unforeseen situation and would like your advice on it. Is there any way I can get in contact with you via email or private messages? Thank you.
Sorry for the delay - I was in Moncton at Minister Blair's Round-Table discussion on banning handguns and "assault rifles". Feel free to send me an email at adam.sulis at gmail.com.
It's actually not too bad. They're not looking to make you an expert by the end of such a short course. They're going to teach you the two acronyms (ACTS and PROVE), and how to apply them to the different firearm types (five non-restricted, and if you go for the restricted, there are three types there), and they'll teach you about the laws, regulations, and some of the general info. The manual for both courses is available here: publications.gc.ca/site/eng/9.801815/publication.html (look for the PDF under Electronic Document). If you have any questions, along the way, let me know :)
I'm a big fan of anyone going through the Safety Course. Even if you decide not to get into the hobby, you'll have an appreciation for the laws and regulations, and get to learn a bit about how these all function, and the care we as owners take in keeping everyone safe.
To anyone going for their CFSC & CRFSC i'll give you a run down of how my practical went down. You'll walk into the room in a 1 on 1 environment and he will probably ask you to name/pick out certain types of ammo such as a 2 3/4 12ga shotgun shell or a 9mm soft point. Don't worry if you don't know what they are right now you'll learn this in the course. Then they will ask you to pick up a firearm but they will not tell you what to do ( you need to ACTS prove ) then you'll have to load the firearm then they will say "put it down" which also means you need to ACTS prove again. You'll repeat this process 3-5 times depending on the firearms kit the instructor has. Personally my Non-restricted course practical was done on a 12GA Break shotgun, .22 lever action and a 30-06 bolt action. For my Restricted practical it was done on a double action only glock 22, double action 38 special and a single action .357 Magnum. Tips!!@!! If the firearm has a grip just grab the grip and dont even put your finger anywhere near the trigger/trigger guard (you'll lose -2 points if you finger goes in the trigger guard), ensure you point the firearm in the designated safe area ( with handguns its super easy to accidentally go off course ), Before even picking up any of the firearms look at the ammo on the table and make sure its compatible with the firearm also use the stock or the grip and flip the firearm to look at the data stamp to reduce the chance of you pointing it in a bad direction or touching the trigger. If you are tested on the glock the slide is very hard to pull back if you have sweaty hands so bring a cloth or something. If you point the firearm anyone you auto fail. GL hope this helps :D
Thanks for the info iam taking my firearm in few weeks i live in BC any suggestions on how to pass??
Taking mine tomorrow. Nervous for some reason.
But im sure ill pass
@@Bigmoeaok did you pass?
i guess not
@@Hockey567899 he probably did, you can redo the test as many times as you want.
To ease everyone’s nerves, if you’re here and watched all of his videos on the course, you’re already ahead of the game and on your way to passing. This channel helped me to a 100/98. Just ensure your time at the tables is spent learning each gun and then muscle memory the acts prove. We went to the tables 4 times during the day before the actual exam.
Hi Adam! So I just wanted to let you know that I passed the CFSC with 100% in both written and practical. I really appreciate everything you showed me here and everything you explained. I wish I could shake your hand.
Anyway to everyone else that's getting ready for their exam, let me explain how mine went. It was a class of 6 with 4 firearms that we had to work with. We used a break action, lever action, semi automatic action and pump action. There was a bolt action as well but we didn't work with it.
Before anything we had to identify ammo from a selection he had on the counter. We had to find a rim fire, a 12 gauge, a 3 inch shell and then tell him the name of 2 other ones. From there we started the real practical.
The exam started with a clear identification of the firing line, cease fire line, down range safe zone and an upper safe zone. He told us to pick up a break action shotgun, which we were supposed to prove it safe. Then he'd ask what ammo fits into the chamber, after we told him we were told to load it. Then he told us to take a firing stance, followed by a cease fire command. We'd prove the firearm safe and step back after setting it down.
Pump action was next, he told us to pick it up. Put the safety on and prove it safe. Then he told us to load 2 shells into the firearm and chamber one of them. Then we had to take a 2 handed carry position and walk toward a wall, stop, turn around with the firearm still pointed safely, then back to the firing line. You then prove it safe again and set it down.
Next was the lever action. Prove it safe, then lower the hammer into the half cock position. Then set it down with the action open.
He then asked 4 questions: How would you travel with thah firearm, how would you store that firearm at home, how would you store the ammo to that firearm and how you'd store the firearm if you didn't have a locked container or anything similar.
After that we had to pick up and prove a semi automatic safe, then set it down.
Everything in the practical exam we did in class, every question, every firearm, every action you take it's all covered. So just try to breath, relax, realize all these weapons are disabled and most importantly, ask ALOT of questions. My instructor never got mad at questions, and we ended up running 2 hours longer than we wanted to.
Good luck friends.
Awesome report, glad to hear your work paid off! Thanks for your feedback, much appreciated. Enjoy a great hobby :)
Very helpful
Excellent video, we need more instructors like yourself. I went to do a motorcycle exam back when I was in my mid 20's and I showed up with the only bike I had available for the test, my 2001 R6 yamaha (a 600cc crotch rocket style bike meant for speed). The examiner told me first hand that she did not like the bike, she tried very hard to find anything wrong with it preventing me from doing the test, during the exam she wouldn't even test me properly because of her disapproval of the style of bike, I did everything correctly and still didn't get the license, the rider before me messed up several sections on his moped style bike and got his license. I went home upset, she went home thinking she saved my life. a month later I retested with a different examiner who didn't care at all about the style of bike and passed me 100% and I've been riding for 10+ years now with no problems.
The point of this story is that we are lucky to have people like you who take the time and make sure that the student properly understands the course and passes knowing the correct information, instead of having someone that decides from the start who they will pass and who they will fail based on their opinion of someone they just met.
Thanks for that. I have to promise to get my 2005 Shadow 750 out this year... They don't do the firearms courses much over the Summer, so more evenings to ride.
That's what I try to keep in mind, the whole time - students are not familiar with anything in the course (well, some are), so I have to get the info into them, then get it out without their nerves getting in the way. I've paused a practical, and just chatted with the candidate for a couple minutes, to get them calmed down again, only to have them pass with a very high mark, in the end.
Thank you so much for these well made and detailed videos...ended up passing my non restricted course yesterday and part of the reason I did was because of you Adam! Very good helpful advice
As someone who recently passed the exam in Ontario, this man is dead on on everything he said!
5 years late here but i really appreciate this video. Still thinking of diving into the combined course that's on offer nearby me. This has definitely helped calm my nerves a bit.
Thank you for the tips! I've passed my cfsc/crfsc this weekend!
Nice job Mr Sulis … Like your style. I would think you must have a high success rate w/ that demeaner. Happy safe shooting.
Omg I LOVE your room. I have been wanting to get into reloading for a while. Such a beautiful setup.
I completed my CFSC/CRFSC over the weekend and learned so much useful information but I ran into a couple problems never handling a firearm before in my life. When we were practicing for our practical exam I felt very rushed and I felt like I didn't get enough hands on training before going into my practical exam. I was in a class of 30 students so we had very limited time to have a 1 on 1 conversation with the instructors. I passed my written exams with ease but when it came to the practical there was one instructor out of the three examining that seemed to be failing students more than others. He told me I didn't PROVE my firearms safe even though I was running him through all the steps. I decided to retake the test even he told me I was too slow on my practical and I should come back another day. I asked to be examined by a different instructor and ended getting 100% on my practical test the same day. I don't understand why the one instructor came to the conclusion of failing me even though I explained everything to him step by step.
Could be a million reasons, but clearly since you did so well with another instructor, the problem was something to do with the first instructor. There can be a fair bit of time pressure to get all the testing done (everyone has get-home-itis), but when a student is being tested, that's the student's time. Instructor has to be patient. Not to say you'd get all day to do the work, but we realize you've only had... minutes, really, to handle the firearms. Plus, when you get your own, you're going to be working with it, dry-firing, cleaning, stripping, etc. Instructors should look beyond the nerves and fumbling, to what you actually know you need to do - not necessarily how to do it. For example, if you have to engage a safety, and say "I don't know where the safety is on this firearm" - I can't take any points off for that - you knew you needed a safety - that's the key take-away.
Congrats on passing, sorry to hear you had a problem, but you made the right choice to overcome it. Safe shooting!
How hard was it to get and is it a open book course
Crypto Davor did he walk around you? If your barrel points in an unsafe direction at any time you fail immediately. Most would give you advice after class if you asked.
@@RobCoopwe were not open book
These videos are super great....thanks for sharing your knowledge with us all. From your neighbor in NS.
WOW I do pray for an instructor with your positive mindset and helpful attitude. Doing PAL tomorrow. Watching your video filled me with confidence and calm spirit. Will report back :)
Thank you for the tips! Got 💯 on both written and practical.
Very helpful video sir. I'm taking my exam tomorrow and watching you video was very reassuring
Good luck today!
i passed it! Thanks Adam.
Awesome! Welcome aboard!
"It can be stressful for many students" Correction, it's stressful for ALL students lol.
Very helpful video. Thanks for posting!
Just did my PAL, watched this night before. It is really very helpful video. Mentally prepares you for what to expect in test.
Congrats! Now get that RPAL application in, and you'll be plinking by Spring (hopefully!) :)
@@adamsulis99 actually I did both PAL and RPAL , just forgot to mention it.
Did you end up receiving your rpal? And was it for law enforcement or a gun club? Thanks
Great content Adam, keep it up!
Great Videos Adam, I found them very helpful for preparing for my PAL.
Cheers!
Just took my test yesterday passed with a 90 on both tests , really helpful video thanks !
Congrats! Welcome to another expensive hobby LOL!
Thank you a Mr Sulis really appreciate it.I don’t got that kind of money that I can fail the test atm And your videos make it easy to understand
Thanks Adrian, I may not be able to look professional on a video, but as long as you get the info, that's what matters lol :) Reading the book before the course will give you a huge head-start.
6:06 "Take your booger picker off the bang switch." lolll. Thanks for sharing this, I feel more confident for my upcoming course/exam!
Best of luck Jacques! Don't get nervous, just think your way through.
@@adamsulis99 Hey thanks! It's this coming Saturday, I'll let you know how it goes :)
I'll only know the official result in a few weeks, but the instructor winked and told me I had nothing to worry about. Thanks again, these videos helped me a lot! Cheers!
Thank you, so much doing my test this weekend 😊
Great video and thanks for the tips- hope my instructor is as cool as you
very helpful thank you sir , I handled a break action and semi auto 22 rifle .
Going for mine tomorrow in edmonton thanks!
That's awesome! Best of luck! (Lemme know how it went)
Adam Sulis gotter done! 98%/96% for restricted and 96%86 for non restricted.. now gotta send off the paperwork and wait....
... and it'll be a mighty long wait, probably. A month after sending it in, call the Firearms Centre every two weeks... that'll give you an idea how it's doing.
Congrats!
Hey
Thanks for making these videos 👍 there very informative
I'm not feeling as nervous going for the test ..
Very useful information. Thank you.
excellent thank you
I just finished with a 96 on my practical and a 96 on my written really easy
Great, solid marks!
i was high throughout the whole day plus i usually retain ZERO classroom content. i found it really easy.
What does the practical consist of
@@Noname-lm4xu The practical consists of testing that concerns your ability to properly handle a firearm. One must show aptitude in the process of picking up a weapon, inspecting the firearm, properly aiming the firearm, and safely putting down the firearm. The whole examination is very logical, and one need not to worry about failing.
Sincerely,
Artifind
P.S: I never thought that I would receive a reply to a comment that I made almost three years ago; I hope that your exam goes well.
@@Trolld haha thank you
Excellent. When i did my firefighter course i had to be verbal and loud each step i took.
Very well done!!
Thank you
Thanks for this Adam! More importantly, thanks for being a BlackBerry supporter! (KeyONE rocks my socks!)
taking the course tomorrow with no experience am i fucked?
By types of action, do they mean all the types of semi-auto? like Roller Delayed Blowback, Gas Piston, and the like? Or am I just expected to know that it's semi-auto?
Hi Aditya! No, nothing that advanced. Break-action, bolt, lever, pump, and semi. only. The physical portion of the course just covers the basics of loading, unloading, use of safeties, and how to prove each one safe.
@@adamsulis99 Sorry for the late reply, but thanks for the help!
Thank you very much for these videos, Adam. I'll be going go my safety course on Sept 23rd and I've been watching these videos daily to better familiarize myself with things. One question though,
I'm not in a situation to actually practice any of the PROVE tests myself, will there be enough practical training during the course to get used to actually handling these firearms? Thank you again.
Absolutely - you're way ahead of the class already - reading through the manual will help too. In class, they'll take you through from scratch, and you'll get instruction as you work with each firearm, then opportunity to continue to practice with them. If something doesn't make sense, they'll help you out. If you need a bit more time with one gun, watch for opportunities on breaks and over lunch. Sometimes the instructors will announce that after the class material has been covered for the day, they may stay a bit late (especially if the class ran "fast", and there is time left over, or they may come in early the next day, and offer some practice then.
@@adamsulis99 Alright perfect, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. I promised everyone around me that I'd be doing my best to learn the proper safety well before going to the class. I've read through both manuals a few times over so right now only the practical things are my concern. I really wish I lived in your province to take part in your class though!
Have a great day, and thanks again.
How did it go
@@Trolld I passed the written exam with 100% and practical with 100%. The restricted course is happening in a few days and I'm sure it will be the same. The course is designed in a way that makes the whole experience feel welcoming. The instructors aren't trying to fail you, they are aiming to help you fall in love with firearms. During my course I had this little dude beside me aged 12 and he passed. (Though he should have failed because he accident my did the nono, but that was before his exam).
How difficult is the practical portion of the testing for anyone who's never handled a firearm in their life? I have my PAL course next week.
It's an absolute beginner course, perfect for folks who have never handled a firearm. The instructors will walk you through the whole thing :)
I am looking forward to the course, I should have taken it years ago. Thanks Adam
I just searched on google, and do the places that provide the courses HAVE the test at the end of the course? And do the real life courses have a really tight and nervy atmosphere? Thanks
cool
Hi..
I love your vidoes.
I am currently taking my PAL.And RPAL course..Today I finished my PAL and passed..But I am a bit worried about the amount of time We were alotted during the practical training and test.
We spent a bit over 8 hours in theory..then the written test..
then about 45 minuts practical..learning how to load amd unload safely..while keeping in line with ACTS,PROVE.This has been the first time handling a firearm for me..let alone multiple different "action" type firearms.
Then the test followed..
I really dont feel we had enough time in tje practical..I passed with a 92%.But was sweating bullits during the test.
Is this normal for the course?
Each province does things a bit differently, but it is a very quick course. Just enough to introduce you to the steps involved. In my courses, I always recommend that when someone buys a new firearm, they buy a package of snap caps (aluminum chunks the same shapes as many common cartridges), and learn to load, unload, etc at home (snap caps instead of live ammo). That helps you get accustomed to the new gun, before wasting ammo - but asking your local club if someone is available for coaching can help too. But yeah, very little hands on... definitely learn from watching others too :) good luck on the RPAL!
Great Video!
Thanks :)
What type of questions do they ask on the test about phone numbers and government addresses and agencies that we have to know
Nothing like that. We mention the Firearms Program ans 1-800 number, but it's not really safety related, so you don't have to memorize it.
Thanks Adam. Cheers. :)
is a failure to check the barrel for obstructions during an unload an automatic fail?
It all depends on "when". The PROVE is in the right order to remove additional ammo, then remove the one from the chamber, then inspect the barrel when it's safe to do so - and you can use a rod or a visual inspection. If you do want to look down the barrel, just tell the instructor before you do it ("I'm going to conduct a visual bore inspection"), because instructors don't like surprises :)
@@adamsulis99 %100 one re-test unrestricted and %98 restricted thanks for the timely advise!
Thank you!!
I’m doing it tomorrow I’m super nervous
Visual bore inspection would lose points right, you were talking about looking down the muzzle not chamber right
Good morning Inception Hunter, thanks for the question!
Visual bore inspection is a valid way to check for a clear barrel (student manual, page 22), and an instructor should not dock you points, IF you do it at the proper point in the PROVE (looking down the barrel before unloading, for example, would be problem), AND because "pointing a gun at anyone, including yourself, unless performing a visual bore inspection is grounds for an immediate failure", you should always tell the instructor that you're going to conduct a visual bore inspection, before attempting it. (likewise, anytime you want to use the trigger (lowering a hammer, for example), you should tell the instructor beforehand, so he knows it's a well-thought-out action, and not an accidental one.
In our classes we "mention" visual bore inspection, and we demonstrate it, but we do not advise doing it during the course (except the break-action, which you can inspect from the "safe" end), because if we get student used to doing it, we fear they'll accidentally point it at the wrong time, in such a way to lose points or cause a failure. There really is nothing a visual inspection can tell you, that a proving rod, or cleaning rod, cannot - unless you're looking at an old wartime rifle, and you're checking to see if the barrel has any rifling left or not - otherwise, the rod works just as well.
Thanks for making this means a lot
Hi Adam, is there somewhere I can go locally and pick up a Manual or is it only offered from the internet ? I am from near toronto
would like to pick one up and start getting a grasp on the paper side of the test
Hi Downforce - Good question. Here in NB, we can just stop by our local Natural Resources office, but in Ontario, this may be the easiest for you: www.fseso.org/study-manuals
Downforce 666 go to buckeyes firearm training (located in the country side uxinbridge) 45 mins northeast of Toronto. The brother instructors were so laid back and helpful. U really don’t need to study or take notes in class as long as u pay attention ( most of the written test is all common sense and all T or F and multiple choice ( no written)
And they were so laid back with the handling test and try to help u along the way as much as they can
that's great ....um but what's te point if your not allowed to have one in your country??? just sayin.
Still need the safety course to apply for some gov't departments. And there's always the hope we can replace our corrupt gov't.
Hi Adam, Ive got a question. The new rules in the 2019 regulations book states that, upon completing the CFSC successfully, I am able to hunt with a gun in my posession as long as I have my yellow certificate of completion CFSC. Is that correct? Am I able to go out by myself to hunt with my own gun? Thanks and love your videos. Im going for my CFSC next weekend and super stoked 😀
Good morning Rainy! The Safety Course Report does not provide anything special, from a legal standpoint. You still would not be licensed to own or possess a firearm. Depending on the Province, however, you may be able to hunt if you are within arm's reach of a licensed person (Direct and Immediate Supervision).
Once you do get your license, things will get easier.
I do get that question from time to time "do we get our license at the end of this course?" - no, the CFSC is only the first step in a multi-month (usually) journey involving lots of other steps. Get you license application in as soon as you can, and hang in there :).
(edit: if you do find something different written, please see if you can find a link for me to the electronic copy - it's important that instructors stay on top of changes). Thanks
@@adamsulis99 I understand about not getting your PAL right away. The new rules that I am talking about are on page 18 of the 2019 hunting regulation summary book.
@@Rainy78 I'll take a peek - which province?
@@adamsulis99 Ontario :-) Doesnt say anything about having to be arms length to someone with a PAL
Ouf! I think that page is very poorly worded. Lemme snip out a couple bits, and see what it looks like:
"If you are in possession of a gun for the purpose of hunting in Ontario, you are required to carry proof of your firearms accreditation under the Firearms Act (Canada) - this includes apprentice hunters (12-14 year old residents) who cannot yet obtain a firearms licence. "(OK, that part is fine. By itself, I would take that to mean you need a license, or a minor's license). Now let's look like the next paragraph which seems to outline what it thinks is accreditation:
"In accordance with the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, every gun hunter must carry one of the following: a valid possession and acquisition licence, a valid minor’s licence, or a stamped copy of a Canadian Firearms Safety Course (CFSC) student report as official documentation showing successful completion of the CFSC (for apprentice hunters who have not yet obtained their minor’s licence). For non-residents..."
So yeah, that's the messy part. See, the License means that you've gone through not only the safety course, but also the background checks, the reference checks, the mandatory 28 day waiting period, and anything else they want to throw into the mix. Otherwise, you're out as a guest and under close supervision of a licensed person, either hunting, or at a range, or whatever - the gun, the license, and the responsibility for keeping you and others safe from that gun, is his.
Now according to how it's written in this Hunting Regulation, In theory, anyone could walk into a Safety course, where there is no background check, no check to see if they're violent against an Ex, or anything, and walk out with a certificate saying they know how to not point a gun at someone. But that's not supposed to be enough to let an un-checked person wander around with a gun, be it in the woods, or to and from a range.
I'd definitely contact the Conservation Officers, and get an emailed/written reply, Heck, I'd even then try to call a different Conservation Officer (in another city), and get his written opinion.
I just can't get my head wrapped around how a person with a stamped CFSC would be able to function - you wouldn't be able to buy a gun or ammo, so that should be the first indication that carrying it unsupervised in the woods wouldn't fly.
Sorry I couldn't come up with a clear answer for you - that one just makes my head hurt. But the Natural Resources people live it every day, so hopefully they'll be able to clarify it for you. If you get something back, please do let me know - I'm super-curious to know how it would work in Ontario. In NB, the Natural Resources guys actually teach the course, along with volunteers like me, and they've never expressed any hint that a license would not be needed.
Hello Adam thanks for sharing video i will be taking my Firearm test but i will not be using or owing any guns ??any advise
There are some who take the Safety courses for work (CBSA, CSC, others), and never plan on owning a firearm. Hopefully, you'll come out of the course knowing that the gun has no will of its own, and that it IS possible to keep a gun safe enough that it won't hurt anyone (only paper). Good luck on the Course! If you have questions, or are nervous during the tests, definitely let the instructors know.
Booger finger off the bang trigger. Love it! Lol
What do you mean by know your regulations?
Hi DannyFoods,
The CFSC and CRFSC are primarily focused on safety, with a tiny bit of Storage, Display, and Transportation, etc thrown in. Staying legal, unfortunately, requires reading the Firearms Act, and all the enabling Regulations (Storage, Transport, and Display Regulations, Magazine Regulations, etc), and sometimes even having to review legal case files to learn how the judge interpreted something that wasn't clearly written (creating case law). All that is a lot to ask of an owner, and many do not get that far into the reading, but certainly belonging to a gun club, and a firearms org like CCFR, NFA, CSSA, etc, will help ensure that word of any major changes will reach you. Being involved in discussion groups like CanadianGunNutz will also allow you to learn from others as well. There's a lot that can jump up and bite a gun owner - being very involved in the conversations taking place will help you stay ahead of it. The country's best firearms lawyers, Solomon Friedman, Ian Runkle, and Ed Burlew, all have youtube videos where they "deep dive" into some traps owners may encounter. Very informative.
Besides the Federal Regulations, it's wise to go through your province's Fish and Game Act (or whatever it's called there) - the Hunting regs can impact. For example, the Firearms Act says that to transport a non-restricted, it has to be "unloaded". That's it. However, in NB, you have to show a reason to have it (gun club, hunting license, sighting in permit) to avoid being investigated for illegal hunting. Plus there are additional factors like having to case your firearm at official darkness, which has nothing to do with driving home from the range, but can apply, nonetheless.
Finally, the city or municipality may have specific bylaws related to firearms (no shooting within city limits, for example).
I would feel better if the course allowed a specific provincial/municipal module to be added - the best we can do in the time we have is to point to a slide showing the three levels of Gov't, and a warning that each level may be interested in what you're doing.
Stay safe!
@@adamsulis99 awesome, thanks for the quick reply.
Thanks I am going to need it
I have my CFSC exam on July 21, but all we were given was a manual. Will I be able to pass if I've never held a gun of any sort? I'm not too sure how to prepare for the exam besides reading the manual...
Hi RM, there should be a minimum 6 hours of instruction given before you write the exam. If they are planning on giving you only the exam, I'd ask for clarification - you should be fairly comfortable in all five types of long guns, by the time of the written and practical exams.
Is there a time limit on the practical part of the CFSC exam?
Not officially. If you know everything, you're done in 10 minutes. If you miss a step, or spend too long with something the instructor will move on to the next step. Talking your way through the test can help keep you on track and help the instructor know if the info is in your head, or just "isn't".
@@MoonMantis-x1l Yep, very achievable. We take 2 points off each time the trigger finger is on the trigger or inside the trigger guard unnecessarily, and they do add up very quickly. Something to watch for, for anyone who was taught to shoot by family members, or folks who have owned guns a long time before taking the Safety course. Sounds like you got through it :)
Ill have my CFSC& CFRSC on November 17 since I just turned 18, they said the result will be available in 3 weeks, is that normal?
It depends on the province. In NB, students leave with the course report in-hand. Other provinces make you wait (no good reason that I can guess), so you'll definitely want to get that info from the instructor or company providing the course. Have fun, and use all the time provided to work with the firearms :)
Adam Sulis thank you Adam for the informative information!
Thanks for the info btw
Do me and all of us learners a favour .. no barumbabumpum between questions
Hey Adam, I ended up running into an unforeseen situation and would like your advice on it. Is there any way I can get in contact with you via email or private messages?
Thank you.
Sorry for the delay - I was in Moncton at Minister Blair's Round-Table discussion on banning handguns and "assault rifles". Feel free to send me an email at adam.sulis at gmail.com.
Is this a oppen book course
Good morning Rob, while you can have the manual with you during the classroom session, the written and practical tests are closed-book.
So then for me I've never held or shot a gun before. How hard is the test and what's best way to study for it
It's actually not too bad. They're not looking to make you an expert by the end of such a short course. They're going to teach you the two acronyms (ACTS and PROVE), and how to apply them to the different firearm types (five non-restricted, and if you go for the restricted, there are three types there), and they'll teach you about the laws, regulations, and some of the general info. The manual for both courses is available here: publications.gc.ca/site/eng/9.801815/publication.html (look for the PDF under Electronic Document). If you have any questions, along the way, let me know :)
It's a good thing my booger picker is my thumb lol.
Dude! Lol!
I want my license thnx
I'm a big fan of anyone going through the Safety Course. Even if you decide not to get into the hobby, you'll have an appreciation for the laws and regulations, and get to learn a bit about how these all function, and the care we as owners take in keeping everyone safe.
booger picker I'm going to say that to my instructor 🤣
prumpum ..:)
Doing my course today! wish me luck! i might not make it back alive.