Maybe the best fight of Cooney's career and he didn't come close to beating Holmes (in spite of the judges). Larry was a tremendous champion; one of the top three or four of all time. After the fight Cooney said "I want to fight more often." His career went off the rails with personal problems and it was two years before he would fight again. Glad to see he got it together in his personal life and is doing a lot of good.
@@liberty5069the truth is Holmes was a very envious man. He wanted to be not only the HW champ but the GOAT. He'll never be considered the GOAT. Watch the post fight Holmes Spinks I. Listen to what he said about Rocky Marciano...
They showed fights that were shown on closed circuit a week after the fight but they were just the very big fights. At this time all three networks showed fights virtually every weekend. You had Marv Albert and Freddie Pacheco on NBC Gli Clancy and Tim Ryan on CBS and I think Cosell and Alex Walu on ABC. Not exactly sure but there was lots of boxing back in the 80s and 90s.
Cosell cited the technicality of the Nevada state rule that the win was on a disqualification and not a technical knockout because Cooney's manager entered the ring. He was on his way to being rendered unconscious and seriously hurt by Larry Holmes. This was a TKO. Period.
Agreed. The judges didn’t do anything to enhance their reputations either with the round by round explanations in the aftermath. Another pet peeve. Truth is Cooney wasn’t in the same league with Larry.
Unfortunately his career was between the end of the golden age and his career was near it's end when a new great age came. He didn't have the competition during his career to give him all the deserved respect.
Introducing Cooney second like a champ was so disrespectful to Larry Holmes. And as for the scoring that was just a joke!! Nice to see that the pair of them are actually good mates now
@@anitabingham279 to me when two people are fighting and people choose a side even based on race its not neccessarily racist. They are basically wearing the same jersey as you are. When black people support Floyd its not racisit. And for sure some support him because he is black. It was a first and rude introducing Holmes first but it gave Cooney no competitive edge. Infact it most likely fired Larry up. Also I would like to say that in my opinion Holmes might have been the best champion of all time. Watch some old sparring film of him and Ali when he was young and Ali was still pretty sharp. For Cooney to have given him one of his best fights, Holmes himself says that, shows he was no stumble bum the way people make out. Holmes suffered his entire carrer because he followed Ali. When he lost his title and the rematch to M. Spinks that was way worse. The boxing creeps in charge and the media treated the great Larry Holmes with disdain his entire carrer. I watched any fight He was in that I could back then. He was unreal and more dominate then I had ever witnessed myself.He was such a normal guy that he never got the notice for being one of the greatest if not the greatest athlete of all time. To disregard Cooney is disrespectful to Holmes. Dont forget that until Holmes Cooney was destroying everyone and put a Tyson type of fear in people. One of the best left hook, body and head, artists of all time.
@@markrobertson3015 When Americans claiming “America first” cheer Pacman to beat Floyd Its racist! When American flag wavers cheer Russians to beat Serena Williams Its racist. Norton was some sort of Champion but to introduce Cooney first is just another chapter in the racist history of the USA
Duane Ford shoulda been suspended from ever judging fights immediately after his scorecard was announced! Every semi close round he gave to the challenger. They tried their best to give this fight to Cooney by decision. It's like they he was watching an entirely different fight. Smh boxing is was and always will be corrupt as hell
The laughable scorecards put forth by Ford/Moretti, coupled with Cosell's lackluster rendering of the fight, obscured the masterful performance by Larry Holmes. Holmes followed the advice of two of boxing's greatest trainers (e.g., Eddie Futch and Ray Arcel) to a tee. For most of the fight, Holmes moved to his left, blocked Cooney's wide punches, and kept his elbows in when Cooney went to his body. Neither Ford nor Moretti nor Cosell seemed to see and/or acknowledge the effectiveness of the greatest jab in boxing history. There have been fighters with quicker or heavier jabs, but Holmes is the only fighter to use the jab as both a speed and power weapon. Larry's also demonstrated his adaptability by outslugging the slugger in the 10th round. The 10th round took everything out of the much younger Cooney, and Holmes then took Cooney apart in the final 3 rounds. By any measure, this Larry Holmes was one of the top 3 heavyweights of all-time.
@@landrewilkinson2919 Actually, prior to the Holmes fight, many people thought Cooney would be the best heavyweight of all time. And Holmes said himself that Cooney was the second best out there (next to Holmes himself).
I remember going to our local arena watching this in b/w on a ppv. A couple of guys at work had a bet w/ me that Cooney would win. I dont' watch football baseball but i "knows" my boxing. I won 20.00 ea from those guys & collected that Monday morning !!!!!!!
Two fine boxers - we don't see this kind of movement any longer and drive to win. One of my favorite fights to watch. They both have such great respect for each other.
Seems like everyone involved in this fight except for the boxers was on the "take." Promoter made it racial. Judges sucked balls. Cooney proved he was a legit contender and tough. Holmes proved he was one of the best champions with his all around ability. Cooney and Holmes are close friends now. Competition brings out the bad and the good. This fight had both.
I think Mills Lane did a great job as ref. He’d become a celebrity later with the Tyson fight when he bit Holyfield’s ear, but he had a great showing here.
Cooneys manager Dennis Rappaport was the main instigator in starting up the racial overtones leading up to the match. Don King was all too happy to go along with it, it meant more cash in their pockets.
Cossel wanted so bad Cooney to win, he couldn't talk anymore at the end of the fight and was completly dejected. And in the dressing room, once again the same dumb question to discredit Holmes " Larry what do you think you have proved tonight" while Holmes was champion since 78. Larry managed to keep his cool while you can see the deep anger on his face. He fought all his career without any support. He had to have a great faith in his talent to keep fighting and winning all those years.
NO MATTER Who they think they are , it is crystal clear that we are the strongest in the Whole World . I shear your open opinion my DEAR brother . WE are the Indomintabl Lion
If Howard was a racist then how do you explain his close relationship with Muhammad Ali?. You obviously dont know much about the man because he was certainly not a racist.
@@tonyudogie8750 Feel better now!?? Now that you openly stated your racistic remark!?? You don't add value - but actually confirm your ignorance, and MINORITY COMPLEX (like so many of you guys suffer from)!! NB.... Influential people didn't like Holmes - cause he was competition for Ali (inter alias)... That's why they were kept appart Thus... Not because he was black - dummy.
1982 seems like a totally different world to 2022. I was 11 years old when this fight happened and I remember the racial animus surrounding it. Cooney was billed as the great white hope, can you imagine such a sentiment today?! Holmes was never given his due and no fight drew a bigger red circle around it than this one. Cooney was game but the fight was never really that close, I thought. 40 years later and these two are still friends, no matter how you saw the fight, that speaks volumes to me.
11 Ha Ha Ha!! I remember that fight like yesterday Cooney was supposed to clean Holmes clock 🕰. Cooney didn’t fight his fight. Tried to box Holmes he should have went in there to knock him out.
I was shocked as a young man watching it, Larry Holmes made it look so easy just peppering Cooney all night long with that beautiful jab!!! It wasn't even close!!!
I peppered him in Reno before the Bugner cancelled tune up to Holmes. On the plane home he sat by a friend of mine. Gave him a card to come spar with him. Said I was a punk. If I knew he couldn't take a shot I would kicked his rear.
Howard Cosell brought up the race issue and from his commentating you could tell witch he was for. Larry knew what he was fighting for and against. still one of my more satisfying fights of my life as a fan.....
@@MichaelPember lol boring yeah. If you to to stop comparing him to Ali (Cause, Any fighter would look boring compared to Ali, and you know it's the truth ), you would notice that Larry is far form being boring, plus the fighter is great and classy, charisma or not.
@@jupiter-8405 the medias didn't help dude. Remember the fight vs witherspoon, the comentators were always praising Tim. They made bieleve that he has destroyed Holmes. Than ihave rewatched the fight without the sound to finally found out that he was way ahead on points. The worst is the fight vs cooney, all the americans, all the crowd in vegas were against Holmes, it was a disgrace. If larry wouldn't had stropped Cooney, Gerry was unfairly ahead on points, everthing was set up for Conney to be the next champion. i can totally understand his biterness with all that.
Larry simply continually circled towards Jerry's right because Cooney was no threat with his right......Legendary Left, but probably one of the most one armed fighters in history......But that left gave him a nice career and some big KO wins. Almost seemed too nice for the fight game......Larry is so underrated in Boxing history.
A great person and he beat up a sick Ali mercilessly just for the little money Ali wanted. Ali wouldn't have done that to him if roles were swaped... He could have easily win the Ali fight without that much beatings
@@ntl3352 ...He begged the referee to stop the fight. He idolized Ali. The ref wouldn't stop it. One of the sadder moments for boxing and, specifically, for Holmes and Ali. Holmes could have fought much harder and killed Ali (who was already showing signs of significant neurological impairment), but he didn't do that.
@Dr. Seuss he hit him with heavy punches. He could have just toyed with him as Ali would have done. Ali knew that very well which is the sad part. If you really loved a man and cared for him would you have continued pounding him because the referee didn't stop it? He should go away with his crocodile tears and fake love
@@ntl3352 ...Sometimes, as young men, we make dumb mistakes. Larry was a young man, still trying to make his name, when he fought his idol. His regret, as an old man, I'm sure is sincere (tears are real). The problem is, there are no time machines in life. You don't get do-overs. Once it's done, it's done forever. That's what I try to get younger people to understand. Don't just live in the moment. THINK in the moment.
I was one of Cooney's sparring partners for this and a few other previous fights. Great guy--and if anyone said he had no right hand, they never got hit with it. Honestly, he was soft psychologically. This was the fight that got inside his head and he waa never the same since.
He could have finish him earlier in my opinion. He took too many risks to wait that long. He had Cooney in big trouble both in the 2nd and the 6th round, but held back.
@@emzid5105 Holmes did it his way..even tho I agree ..he should had gotten cooney out of there when he had him hurt each time..holmes was the one in the ring with cooney and once Holmes felt that cooney was weak enough to be tooken out ..he took him out..respect your opinion. .
@@princeblizzard8912 Thanks bro, like you said it's just my personal opinion. I wasn't in the ring, Larry was. Easy to say what should be done when you watch the fight on tv :)
Ford/Moretti deep down wanted the "Great White Hope" to a "Great White Champion". Just like that guy at 1:00:56 at the bottom left hand corner slapping the canvas of the ring with anger.
Larry Holmes fue uno de los más grandes campeones mundiales de los pesos completos de toda la historia y debiera ser reconocido, un tremendo boxeador gran técnica, valiente, pegador y gran resistencia y recuperación, muy completo.
Sometimes, it can happen if the head and neck are pulled down at the same time a fighter attempts to throw a body shot in the liver area. In this fight, it looked like it was the case in the big low blow in the ninth round. Not so in other rounds. Fatigue also plays a factor in sloppy punching. It was nice to see a replay. It seemed a better fight than I remembered way back then.
IMO, if he hadn't lost to Michael Spinks, Holmes would be ranked the greatest heavyweight champion of all time. He's still ranked high up there but if he could have retired without losing a fight then he would have accomplished something only one other champion had ever done.
@@georgfriedrichhandel4390 And yet the public didn't like him. He blamed Ali, however, he has no one to blame but himself. Always mean and bitter. A major turn off. Here is a fact. Holmes was champion for 7 years and only had 2 pay per view fights! Pathetic
@@elliottswinton3960 Holmes wasn't respected for many reasons. It's been said that during his reign as champion, the heavyweight division was weak. Of all his opponents, only three were top-caliber boxers - Ken Norton, Ernie Shavers and Mike Weaver. Also, he refused to fight Michael Dokes and Gerrie Coetzee, two champion boxers during the early 80s, both of whom were more than a match against Holmes. Having said that, he defended his belt against 19 opponents. That's more than any other champion after Joe Louis and throughout his career, only two boxers (Shavers and Mike Tyson) managed to knock him down. Very few boxers - and even fewer champions - in any division can match those records.
@@Smudgeroon74 The reason I heard is that since Holmes was the WBC and Coetzee was the WBA champion, both councils were requiring that the other guy renounce his belt and fight as the challenger while the champion they recognized would be billed as the defending champion. Neither boxer accepted that condition which is why the fight never occurred. I don't know how true this is. I'm sure there are other "conspiracy theories" out there also.
Yes gotta snap your punches Not push them.larry had a funny build but he could punch with that right and his Jab he worked at it...And used it..great fighter
@@scorpio5165 remember this there not one jab like people think you got Alot of different Jabs or should have and I'll explain to you what I learned you can sting you can keep them back without stepping in you can bait them in with a lazy jab you can double triple jabs or more You can do alot with a jab you can win the whole fight with a Jab think about the different Jabs you fake it and hook off of it sets the rest up or keep them off you can blind them to land the power shots Ali was a great jabber when he worked at keeping it Sharp Vigil Hill had a great jab...It's worth working on it keep at it do rounds nothing but jabs fool them with that jab and learn to land it easy and hook and uppercut it can set everything up that jab Larry mastered it when you get tired you can rest on that jab and good luck Larry had little arms and little Legs but his speed and snapping his punches and That speed gave him a lot more power than most could get out of his body...Watch Frank Bruno against Tyson he had no power because he was too tight from lifting heavy weights he looked great but pushed his punches instead of snapping them watch him he couldn't keep Tyson back Mike walked Thur him and lifting heavy weights and Boxing is a no no...Light weights only in boxing God bless you keep snapping that Jab.
Exactly what you said whip is what you want Larry didn't look great in everything or on his toes but he had a nasty streak when he needed like against Berbick or Mercer watch him against Oliver McCall the old man show he is the Best of the best he could get off that canvas like no other but Ali Holmes took that punch from Shavers that when it landed it was over the hardest punch in Boxing history they say watch Holmes get up and he was a Great great Fighter it's hard to stay on top that long without being great he fooled many..Larry was Legendary
Cooney should and could have been the champ with awesome power. But holmes was man great jab hurtful right hand. Good to know they are now great friends thats respect😊
Man, there were so much “ White Hype “ and”BS’ back then that they even introduced the champ first and then the challenger like he was the champ! LMAO!😂
I saw the fight at a huge banquet hall in Tampa with a very amped up crowd. I remember those low blows, the racial tension palpable. Larry was treated poorly at times by the media and some terrible judging at times, not so much this fight.
The European observers of this fight including those two biased judges and Cossell were overwhelmed with wishful thinking. Crazy Cossell is saying Holmes has nothing left while he's demolishing Cooney. Shame of all time
Credit to Larry for winning his way, but would've loved to see Cooney vs Tyson. Iron Mike would've waded in under Cooneys 1-dimensional defence and blasted him apart within 2 rounds.
After the fight, even Larry Holmes admitted that if Gerry had been fighting any other HW in the world active at that time for the title, he would have won it that night. He said Gerry had more heart, and a bit more power than people gave him credit for.
Gerry Cooney was an average fighter. nothing more nothing less. Michael Spinks showed that we he KO'd him. The only person Cooney beat was an old glass jaw Ken Norton.
Holmes at his best,this holmes i would rank right behind ali as 2nd greatest hw in boxing history.smooth as silk,coony at times look confused these judges were off there rocker on there scoreing
50:00 "get rough, get rough".... Just a corner-code which of cause means: HIT LOW.!!! Like he was doing all along!! The joke was when he hit Larry 3 times under the belt... The ref did nothing - and those biased stupid judges (all 3) - gave thát round to Gerry.!!!
This was a polarizing fight to say the least. I was in sixth grade at the time and I clearly recall kids arguing on the bus divided by racial lines. Even as kids unfortunately we knew about that, and even worse we fought one another over something like a boxing match, and I don't mean fist fight I mean serious arguing.
I was 20 years old and yes I do remember it well being tremendously racially divided, it was so disrespectful how Larry Holmes was treated, how in the hell in a Championship fight, the fight announcer, annouces the champion first!!! And why would Ring magazine put Gerry Cooney the Challenger on the front page and Larry Holmes the Champion on the back page??? President Reagan requested a phone be put in Gerry Cooney's locker room so after Cooney wins the Championship the President would call to congratulate him, the fight judge's we're all white and had Cooney winning the fight, which even if you look at the fight from 40 years ago, Larry Holmes won all the rounds, he was literally pummeling Cooney thought out the fight with his jab, if Holmes wouldn't have knocked him out he would have lost the fight, which would have been bullshit!!!!
Did that funny announcer said that Conney refused to go down, he looked pretty down to me fella hanging on the ropes doesn't mean that bum didn't go down. Seriously hilarious 😂
If Cooney managed to land three punches without throwing a low blow he was given the round. And Howard describing the last round saying it was “sloppy” while Holmes lands blow after blow was laughable.
Sounds like your one of those people who made it a radical thing!Ur probably out looking for a great black hope....you better keep looking around because from the middle weights on up no black champs.Lol😂
Victor Valle saved his fighter from additional punishment and it was the correct decision. Larry Holmes is total domination. This is a brilliant performance for all time. I think it was Larry Merchant who said one fighter was a complete pro and one fighter was an incomplete pro.
I think they used to call that "Spindly" "Gawky" or "gangly" I'd rather be 5'0" and have an "V" shaped athletic build than to be over 6' and look like Cooney.
IMO, this fight failed to live up to all the hype. Holmes outclassed Cooney from the get go. If anything, this fight exposed just how overrated Cooney was. Cooney was great fighting aging heavyweights but when he came up against a top champion, he was completely out of his league.
@@Shovelhook You're absolutely right. Before Holmes, Cooney's fights seldom went more than five rounds because he usually knocked his opponents out in the first few rounds but as you said, when he faced a scientific boxer like Holmes, he was like a duck in a cockfight. Bottom line, Cooney was never as great as everyone believed he was and didn't deserve to be ranked number 1.
This was a hugely anticipated fight. One closed-circuit venue was a race track somewhere in New York State. Something like 72,000 fans bought tickets there.
Imagine a fighter, who trained hard and prepared himself apologizing (in his exit interview) to "all the people who wanted me to win..." BS --- Cooney knew all along that this was bigger than him or a title fight and that it was being billed as a pseudo-race war!!! Shameless by all his handlers and the media circus around the fight!!!
@@ellismarcelle5579 Yes, but it was the only way to build the fight for top $$ , cuz there was nothing in Cooney s record that suggested he should have been there to start with.
I find Cooney a horrible fighter doesn't know how to cut the ring too much with the left hand don't train to use his right his trainer don't know how to train him. Tied that left hand train with the right till it is usable that is why Holmes kept going to the left in the ring have he learn to cut the ring use that right would have been a whole different fight. Sorry Gerry you needed to get the right trainer Cus Amato maybe?
I only gave Cooney rounds 4 and 8 although the early rounds were very close. The judges disagreed with me on both fighters at times but I don't have a problem with their scoring. I just thought Larry landed cleaner mostly but no issue with the scoring seen by me. It was that close early on. I had bet on Cooney that night but was worried right away about that bet at the time. I realized how good Larry was that night.
Checking the scorecards after every round, I really didn't see a problem with the judges either. I didn't give Cooney the close rounds, but I have the TV angle and my own bias against the potential of a robbery. What was evident rewatching this fight was that Cooney might have been winning rounds, but he was losing the fight. He was losing points for fouls and he was losing on cumulative damage. Holmes was on his way to a TKO sooner or later because Cooney wasn't effective on offense or defense anymore.
29:24 Today, we will be seeing this fight for whose moment of glory! Who thou shall take this land couragely! And Put our stamp of Victories to this Land!
Barry I am Irish have to say Larry fought a very smart fight the rap on Coonney is his endurance because of all the power in his punches if I remember the 13th round Conney gassed out From the looks of the early to middle rounds Cooney looked like he did have some boxing skills.
Cooney was naturally left handed but fought from an orthodox stance. If you watch his right, and he landed on Holmes with his right throughout the fight, there wasn't much power behind it. Why he fought this way who knows.
@@marknorris1381 That's an outstanding point Even.I.didnt realize it .Looking at the fight and if I was training Cooney I would of had him throwing more punches especially after he connects with 2 or 3 in a row. It's like he throws a few punches connects and backs away. Sort of an amateur style. Holmes had 187 years of experience in.his corner Ray Arcel Eddie Futch Richie Giachetti. Cooney had 6 years Victor Valle
I saw this fight when it happened. Great fight by both fighters. Cooney had one of the hardest left hooks in boxing history. I did not say the best I said the hardest. Let me tell you why Cooney lost this fight . His team would not him fight the top black fighters before he fought Holmes. Had they let Cooney fight those black fighters he may have had a chance to win that fight. The great Larry Holmes had been there before. If you remember Holmes and Ken Norton had a life and death fight back in 1988 or 89. Holmes pulled out the win. Holmes knew he could go 15 hard rounds, Cooney found out the hard way that he could not. Cooney was never the same after this fight. The judging was spot on I have no issues after watching it again. Boxing has always been a racist sport . Letting Cooney enter the ring last was a slap in the face to Larry Holmes. Larry Holmes top three heavy weights ever. Coach Dirk White.
Not just black fighters were avoided as Cooney should have fought Gerrie Coetzee too. Several contenders could have been a chance of putting a loss on Cooney's record coming up but in the long run he would have been better prepared when his title shot came.
Cooney had a perfect record leading up to the match with Holmes, I think Cooneys management didn't want to risk that record by having Cooney face some of the top ranked heavyweights of the time. Mike Weaver, Michael Dokes, Tim Witherspoon, Greg Page, all were capable of beating Cooney.
The funny thing is Larry Holmes and Jerry Cooney are very good friends today and talk to each other almost every other day apparently. Just like Muhammad Ali and George Foreman became very good friends and talk to each other almost every other day.
Larry was unfortunately the fighter who took Ali's title and the press and fans never forgave him for it. Larry was a true champion, fought anyone and everyone who came along. He wasn't media savoy and they treated him wrong, period. "Let's have a good fight , " Larry says to Cooney . Cooney knew the racist BS was wrong and couldn't even look at Larry. In the end it was Larry who proved who was the better man.
Forgave him? Why? He beat the hell out of Ali! Nothing to apologize for, Ali is to blame for signing a contract he knew he wouldn’t be able to cash with his mouth!
They were not human beings but complete fools . Who does not in any way deserves to be in that judgement table. Unfortunately, this is present world we now live in .
I remember my middle school science teacher telling us about her and her husband watching the fight, at the Sunrise Highway movie theater in Long Island. They were the only Black folk, in the joint. They elect to sit in the back. Why the back? The back exit was right there, so when Holmes whipped Cooney, which he did, they could easily sneak out and laugh their asses all the way to their car, and get out....!
Holmes best skill was his chin. His great chin enabled him to win his tough fights. Puches that cooney and shavers used to knockout other fighters, or hurt them causing them to cover up and fight defensive, had no impact on Holmes allowing his offensive skills to win the day
I can’t disagree with that. Holmes seemed like he was confident in his chin too. He took shots like Forman did sometimes. Bull wuz literally a real life Apollo Creed with no Rocky.
Thanks for the upload, coachstrout, it's very interesting to hear the judges commenting on their scoring between rounds. Whatever you think of the scoring, this job takes concentration for 10 to 15 rounds = more than half an hour, and keep in mind that the average youtuber's attention span is half a minute.
I don't think people give Cooney his due! I have seen him knock out a lot of fighters within the first four rounds-Norton, Lyle, Gregg, Young. I remember when Larry Holmes said that Marciano could not wear his jockstrap when asked about Marciano's 49-0 record. I don't think Holmes would have beaten Ali in his prime.
George Foreman said that Cooney hit harder than Joe Frazier. Incredible power. Holmes clearly had an iron chin, he took a lot of hard shots here off Cooney, including left hooks, and never looked badly hurt. I think Cooney was also a better fighter than some gave him credit for. I'd say here that it was fairly close on points, until Cooney got tired.
In the ring, two fighters beat each other up for 13 rounds in a inhuman rage. Yet out of it, showed extreme humility and kindness for there family, people and friends.
My brother Larry and I watched this fight at the Dothan Civic Civic Center in Dothan AL. We were the only black people in the building and it was packed. Every time Holmes would land a punch we would make as much noise as we could for Holmes. But when they stopped the fight we went crazy. No one said a word to us but we really rubbed it in their faces. We both were good fighters so there was nothing to worry about LOL. Coach Dirk White
Maybe the best fight of Cooney's career and he didn't come close to beating Holmes (in spite of the judges). Larry was a tremendous champion; one of the top three or four of all time. After the fight Cooney said "I want to fight more often." His career went off the rails with personal problems and it was two years before he would fight again. Glad to see he got it together in his personal life and is doing a lot of good.
Holmes never got the credit he deserved. I got him 3rd greatest hw all time.
"Cooney is the white hope. If the man were black, he'd be a nobody."
- Larry Holmes
Holmes was a legend who never really got the credit he deserved
He was a great champion, but his acceptance as one seemed doomed from the start, fighting out of the shadows of a beloved Muhammad Ali.
Truth
@@jenkemjones68 I agree Larry was a great fighter and a clean fighter
@@liberty5069the truth is Holmes was a very envious man. He wanted to be not only the HW champ but the GOAT. He'll never be considered the GOAT. Watch the post fight Holmes Spinks I. Listen to what he said about Rocky Marciano...
Until he met Tyson LOL nothing more than a chump !!!
Back when ABC was still the boxing king. At this point, the major fights were shown a week later, but still...these replays did NUMBERS for them.
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They showed fights that were shown on closed circuit a week after the fight but they were just the very big fights. At this time all three networks showed fights virtually every weekend. You had Marv Albert and Freddie Pacheco on NBC Gli Clancy and Tim Ryan on CBS and I think Cosell and Alex Walu on ABC. Not exactly sure but there was lots of boxing back in the 80s and 90s.
Let's not forget how Reagan had a special phone installed in Cooney's dressing room in case he won.Mr.Holmes was afforded NO such luxury.
Cosell cited the technicality of the Nevada state rule that the win was on a disqualification and not a technical knockout because Cooney's manager entered the ring. He was on his way to being rendered unconscious and seriously hurt by Larry Holmes. This was a TKO. Period.
Unlike the 1st round beating lyle got who tyson said was the hardest punchers
Agreed. The judges didn’t do anything to enhance their reputations either with the round by round explanations in the aftermath. Another pet peeve. Truth is Cooney wasn’t in the same league with Larry.
I love his post fight interview Larry had lost his patience with Howard by this time.
And rightfully so.
Holmes was an all-time great! He fought everyone
Very underrated champion he fought Tyson for the money when he was 38 years old. At their peak Holmes and Tyson would have been a great fight.
@@colinjennings3661 He might even have beaten Tyson. Holmes had a great jab and the reach differential was substantial.
Indeed He was! 1love
Unfortunately his career was between the end of the golden age and his career was near it's end when a new great age came. He didn't have the competition during his career to give him all the deserved respect.
@@collingafar1638 if Holmes gets Tyson to the second half of the fight he wins
Holmes is one of the best heavyweight champions in the world
Introducing Cooney second like a champ was so disrespectful to Larry Holmes. And as for the scoring that was just a joke!! Nice to see that the pair of them are actually good mates now
watch champion norton vs challenger holmes.....norton is introduced first
@@markrobertson3015 That was a mistake in that fight. This Fight it was intentional/Racist.
@@anitabingham279 to me when two people are fighting and people choose a side even based on race its not neccessarily racist. They are basically wearing the same jersey as you are. When black people support Floyd its not racisit. And for sure some support him because he is black. It was a first and rude introducing Holmes first but it gave Cooney no competitive edge. Infact it most likely fired Larry up. Also I would like to say that in my opinion Holmes might have been the best champion of all time. Watch some old sparring film of him and Ali when he was young and Ali was still pretty sharp. For Cooney to have given him one of his best fights, Holmes himself says that, shows he was no stumble bum the way people make out. Holmes suffered his entire carrer because he followed Ali. When he lost his title and the rematch to M. Spinks that was way worse. The boxing creeps in charge and the media treated the great Larry Holmes with disdain his entire carrer. I watched any fight He was in that I could back then. He was unreal and more dominate then I had ever witnessed myself.He was such a normal guy that he never got the notice for being one of the greatest if not the greatest athlete of all time. To disregard Cooney is disrespectful to Holmes. Dont forget that until Holmes Cooney was destroying everyone and put a Tyson type of fear in people. One of the best left hook, body and head, artists of all time.
@@markrobertson3015 and
@@markrobertson3015 When Americans claiming “America first” cheer Pacman to beat Floyd Its racist! When American flag wavers cheer Russians to beat Serena Williams Its racist. Norton was some sort of Champion but to introduce Cooney first is just another chapter in the racist history of the USA
Duane Ford shoulda been suspended from ever judging fights immediately after his scorecard was announced! Every semi close round he gave to the challenger. They tried their best to give this fight to Cooney by decision. It's like they he was watching an entirely different fight. Smh boxing is was and always will be corrupt as hell
The laughable scorecards put forth by Ford/Moretti, coupled with Cosell's lackluster rendering of the fight, obscured the masterful performance by Larry Holmes. Holmes followed the advice of two of boxing's greatest trainers (e.g., Eddie Futch and Ray Arcel) to a tee. For most of the fight, Holmes moved to his left, blocked Cooney's wide punches, and kept his elbows in when Cooney went to his body. Neither Ford nor Moretti nor Cosell seemed to see and/or acknowledge the effectiveness of the greatest jab in boxing history. There have been fighters with quicker or heavier jabs, but Holmes is the only fighter to use the jab as both a speed and power weapon. Larry's also demonstrated his adaptability by outslugging the slugger in the 10th round. The 10th round took everything out of the much younger Cooney, and Holmes then took Cooney apart in the final 3 rounds. By any measure, this Larry Holmes was one of the top 3 heavyweights of all-time.
Cosell seems bias towards Holmes same way Larry Merchant always bias towards Mayweather Jr.
yep......... that Holmes jab was nasty, what a weapon.......he chopped that big Cooney oak tree down.. one of the alltime greats... Larryy Holmes.,
Gerry Cooney couldn't fight a cold with a bottle of Nyquil🥊🥊
@@landrewilkinson2919 Actually, prior to the Holmes fight, many people thought Cooney would be the best heavyweight of all time. And Holmes said himself that Cooney was the second best out there (next to Holmes himself).
He got three warnings wow
Great speech by Holmes after the fight - fight for the people!
Good thing larry took it out of the judges hands and stop Cooney, it was all set to rob Larry of his title.
Everybody, during the early 80s, NEW that there was only ONE Heavyweight Champion of the World.
And that champion was Larry Holmes.
That's Knew no one new!
You kind of right, the very early 80s, and then Tyson had the entirety division all to himself.
Ali, the Greatest of All Time
@@charlestonbrown148 believed in his God and no one scared him.
Holmes was as great a champion as any other heavyweight in history
such a humble champ Larry holmes, the fight was close to me ,but the scoring aside ,it was a good fight ,but the better man always wins
Absolutely Class⭐️
Larry Holmes was a master boxer - he had skill and experience and ringcraft and toughness and durability and determination and self belief and...
i was really surprised to see him keep fighting after the many hard shots that Cooney gave him in the body. Holmes could really take a punch.
I remember going to our local arena watching this in b/w on a ppv. A couple of guys at work had a bet w/ me that Cooney would win. I dont' watch football baseball but i "knows" my boxing. I won 20.00 ea from those guys & collected that Monday morning !!!!!!!
Was a practice boxer for Ali
And Jupiter...he was the True Successor to Muhammad Ali.!!
And perhaps the most lethal jab in the history of pro boxing.
Holmes was at his peak, he was throwing fastballs in there with his jab.
Two fine boxers - we don't see this kind of movement any longer and drive to win. One of my favorite fights to watch. They both have such great respect for each other.
Seems like everyone involved in this fight except for the boxers was on the "take." Promoter made it racial. Judges sucked balls. Cooney proved he was a legit contender and tough. Holmes proved he was one of the best champions with his all around ability. Cooney and Holmes are close friends now. Competition brings out the bad and the good. This fight had both.
I think Mills Lane did a great job as ref. He’d become a celebrity later with the Tyson fight when he bit Holyfield’s ear, but he had a great showing here.
Well said it was very much racially charged!!
Cooneys manager Dennis Rappaport was the main instigator in starting up the racial overtones leading up to the match. Don King was all too happy to go along with it, it meant more cash in their pockets.
Gr8 show n idea for this classic fight!!!!
Holmes the Easton assassin really never got the credit he deserved. I lost respect for Cooney in the Norton fight. He tried to kill the guy
Cossel wanted so bad Cooney to win, he couldn't talk anymore at the end of the fight and was completly dejected. And in the dressing room, once again the same dumb question to discredit Holmes " Larry what do you think you have proved tonight" while Holmes was champion since 78. Larry managed to keep his cool while you can see the deep anger on his face. He fought all his career without any support. He had to have a great faith in his talent to keep fighting and winning all those years.
Howard was totally dejected along with the rest of his kind.
NO MATTER Who they think they are , it is crystal clear that we are the strongest in the Whole World . I shear your open opinion my DEAR brother .
WE are the Indomintabl Lion
If Howard was a racist then how do you explain his close relationship with Muhammad Ali?. You obviously dont know much about the man because he was certainly not a racist.
@@tonyudogie8750
Feel better now!?? Now that you openly stated your racistic remark!?? You don't add value - but actually confirm your ignorance, and MINORITY COMPLEX (like so many of you guys suffer from)!!
NB....
Influential people didn't like Holmes - cause he was competition for Ali (inter alias)...
That's why they were kept appart
Thus... Not because he was black - dummy.
Cossel loved Ali, and could never forgive Holmes for beating him.
1982 seems like a totally different world to 2022. I was 11 years old when this fight happened and I remember the racial animus surrounding it. Cooney was billed as the great white hope, can you imagine such a sentiment today?! Holmes was never given his due and no fight drew a bigger red circle around it than this one. Cooney was game but the fight was never really that close, I thought. 40 years later and these two are still friends, no matter how you saw the fight, that speaks volumes to me.
Right. Holmes called him The Great White Dope
11 Ha Ha Ha!! I remember that fight like yesterday Cooney was supposed to clean Holmes clock 🕰. Cooney didn’t fight his fight. Tried to box Holmes he should have went in there to knock him out.
I was shocked as a young man watching it, Larry Holmes made it look so easy just peppering Cooney all night long with that beautiful jab!!! It wasn't even close!!!
I peppered him in Reno before the Bugner cancelled tune up to Holmes. On the plane home he sat by a friend of mine. Gave him a card to come spar with him. Said I was a punk. If I knew he couldn't take a shot I would kicked his rear.
Trump was president, not a whole lot changed.
Howard Cosell brought up the race issue and from his commentating you could tell witch he was for. Larry knew what he was fighting for and against. still one of my more satisfying fights of my life as a fan.....
Lost big money saw defeat Norton easy try get back spinks but conney wouldn't hold won hurt ali won fights by holding,
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@@bennyhuxen9929And for us English speakers out there?
Holmes was quick af. Love watching his figths.
I love Larry Holmes always told it like it is! 100% class act!
Holmes a class act? He is a bore. The man has zero charisma.
100% professional Larry Holmes😎
@@MichaelPember lol boring yeah. If you to to stop comparing him to Ali (Cause, Any fighter would look boring compared to Ali, and you know it's the truth ), you would notice that Larry is far form being boring, plus the fighter is great and classy, charisma or not.
Larry always seemed to be bitter even when he won which turned the public off him, in my top 5 greatest heavyweights ever though.
@@jupiter-8405 the medias didn't help dude. Remember the fight vs witherspoon, the comentators were always praising Tim. They made bieleve that he has destroyed Holmes. Than ihave rewatched the fight without the sound to finally found out that he was way ahead on points. The worst is the fight vs cooney, all the americans, all the crowd in vegas were against Holmes, it was a disgrace. If larry wouldn't had stropped Cooney, Gerry was unfairly ahead on points, everthing was set up for Conney to be the next champion. i can totally understand his biterness with all that.
How many low blows did Cooney get away with? 🤣🤣
Absolutely terrible 🤮Mills Lane was better than that!
I don't know, but he did have 3 points deducted.
Two good guys. They are both friends today.
Larry simply continually circled towards Jerry's right because Cooney was no threat with his right......Legendary Left, but probably one of the most one armed fighters in history......But that left gave him a nice career and some big KO wins. Almost seemed too nice for the fight game......Larry is so underrated in Boxing history.
Larry is in the top 5 of all time greats. Not only exceptional as a boxer but a genuinely great person
A great person and he beat up a sick Ali mercilessly just for the little money Ali wanted. Ali wouldn't have done that to him if roles were swaped... He could have easily win the Ali fight without that much beatings
@@ntl3352 ...He begged the referee to stop the fight. He idolized Ali. The ref wouldn't stop it. One of the sadder moments for boxing and, specifically, for Holmes and Ali. Holmes could have fought much harder and killed Ali (who was already showing signs of significant neurological impairment), but he didn't do that.
@Dr. Seuss he hit him with heavy punches. He could have just toyed with him as Ali would have done. Ali knew that very well which is the sad part. If you really loved a man and cared for him would you have continued pounding him because the referee didn't stop it? He should go away with his crocodile tears and fake love
@@ntl3352 ...Sometimes, as young men, we make dumb mistakes. Larry was a young man, still trying to make his name, when he fought his idol. His regret, as an old man, I'm sure is sincere (tears are real). The problem is, there are no time machines in life. You don't get do-overs. Once it's done, it's done forever. That's what I try to get younger people to understand. Don't just live in the moment. THINK in the moment.
@Dr. Seuss well said but once you are an adult you become responsible for your actions.
I was one of Cooney's sparring partners for this and a few other previous fights.
Great guy--and if anyone said he had no right hand, they never got hit with it.
Honestly, he was soft psychologically. This was the fight that got inside his head and he waa never the same since.
Holmes just made Cooney work til he was so tired at the end..you have to be a 15 round fighter..holmes is a good human begin..
He could have finish him earlier in my opinion. He took too many risks to wait that long. He had Cooney in big trouble both in the 2nd and the 6th round, but held back.
@@emzid5105 Holmes did it his way..even tho I agree ..he should had gotten cooney out of there when he had him hurt each time..holmes was the one in the ring with cooney and once Holmes felt that cooney was weak enough to be tooken out ..he took him out..respect your opinion.
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@@princeblizzard8912 Thanks bro, like you said it's just my personal opinion. I wasn't in the ring, Larry was. Easy to say what should be done when you watch the fight on tv :)
@@emzid5105 peace..
You two have the same opinions. 😂😂😂
Judge Dave Moretti: I scored the second Larry Holmes because of the knockdown and the jabs
Cosell: Oh Cooney's ready to go
Cooney was outclassed from the getgo. Gotta give him props for going as long as he did, tho.
What fight was Cosell watching?
..and still,...one of the all time greats.
Gerry Clooney and his ringside were clowns. His ringside let him low blow the whole fight but then won't let him continue ?!? Cowards
The silent hunter.....LARRY HOLMES......GREAT CHAMPION.........
Very good move by Victor Vale!!! Saved Cooney some brain cells there!!!
If Jerry was winning his corner jumps in the ring for a dq saving a tko
Ford/Moretti deep down wanted the "Great White Hope" to a "Great White Champion".
Just like that guy at 1:00:56 at the bottom left hand corner slapping the canvas of the ring with anger.
That was Jose Sulimain who is president of the “WBC title.” 😂 smh that’s crazy.
True
Holmes was Different
It's an example of supreme human restraint that no one ever hit Cosell. Heehee!!
Larry Holmes fue uno de los más grandes campeones mundiales de los pesos completos de toda la historia y debiera ser reconocido, un tremendo boxeador gran técnica, valiente, pegador y gran resistencia y recuperación, muy completo.
A guy 6’7” throwing low blows that often is obviously on purpose
Larry ⭐️❤️Class all the way when Cosell interviewed him after the fight👏👏👏👏
How can a man taller continue to throw low blows on a consistent basis? Outclassed!
looks like he threw 2 low blows in succession in the one sequence.
Sometimes, it can happen if the head and neck are pulled down at the same time a fighter attempts to throw a body shot in the liver area. In this fight, it looked like it was the case in the big low blow in the ninth round. Not so in other rounds. Fatigue also plays a factor in sloppy punching. It was nice to see a replay. It seemed a better fight than I remembered way back then.
What Really makes Holmes great never holds stands in front of you and dares you to outbox him
IMO, if he hadn't lost to Michael Spinks, Holmes would be ranked the greatest heavyweight champion of all time. He's still ranked high up there but if he could have retired without losing a fight then he would have accomplished something only one other champion had ever done.
@@georgfriedrichhandel4390
And yet the public didn't like him. He blamed Ali, however, he has no one to blame but himself. Always mean and bitter. A major turn off. Here is a fact. Holmes was champion for 7 years and only had 2 pay per view fights! Pathetic
@@elliottswinton3960 Holmes wasn't respected for many reasons. It's been said that during his reign as champion, the heavyweight division was weak. Of all his opponents, only three were top-caliber boxers - Ken Norton, Ernie Shavers and Mike Weaver. Also, he refused to fight Michael Dokes and Gerrie Coetzee, two champion boxers during the early 80s, both of whom were more than a match against Holmes. Having said that, he defended his belt against 19 opponents. That's more than any other champion after Joe Louis and throughout his career, only two boxers (Shavers and Mike Tyson) managed to knock him down. Very few boxers - and even fewer champions - in any division can match those records.
@@georgfriedrichhandel4390 Coetzee was a capable boxer. Surprised Holmes didn't want to fight him.
@@Smudgeroon74 The reason I heard is that since Holmes was the WBC and Coetzee was the WBA champion, both councils were requiring that the other guy renounce his belt and fight as the challenger while the champion they recognized would be billed as the defending champion. Neither boxer accepted that condition which is why the fight never occurred. I don't know how true this is. I'm sure there are other "conspiracy theories" out there also.
Cooney’s face is an omelette, vicious low blows and still for all three white judges he is winning the fight.
Holmes had a jab like a whip! Larry and Thomas Hearns had the best jabs I've ever seen.
I tried to mimic his jabs, but not close lol, he had speedy arms and it's a blessing..
Yes gotta snap your punches Not push them.larry had a funny build but he could punch with that right and his Jab he worked at it...And used it..great fighter
@@scorpio5165 remember this there not one jab like people think you got Alot of different Jabs or should have and I'll explain to you what I learned you can sting you can keep them back without stepping in you can bait them in with a lazy jab you can double triple jabs or more You can do alot with a jab you can win the whole fight with a Jab think about the different Jabs you fake it and hook off of it sets the rest up or keep them off you can blind them to land the power shots Ali was a great jabber when he worked at keeping it Sharp Vigil Hill had a great jab...It's worth working on it keep at it do rounds nothing but jabs fool them with that jab and learn to land it easy and hook and uppercut it can set everything up that jab Larry mastered it when you get tired you can rest on that jab and good luck Larry had little arms and little Legs but his speed and snapping his punches and That speed gave him a lot more power than most could get out of his body...Watch Frank Bruno against Tyson he had no power because he was too tight from lifting heavy weights he looked great but pushed his punches instead of snapping them watch him he couldn't keep Tyson back Mike walked Thur him and lifting heavy weights and Boxing is a no no...Light weights only in boxing God bless you keep snapping that Jab.
Exactly what you said whip is what you want Larry didn't look great in everything or on his toes but he had a nasty streak when he needed like against Berbick or Mercer watch him against Oliver McCall the old man show he is the Best of the best he could get off that canvas like no other but Ali Holmes took that punch from Shavers that when it landed it was over the hardest punch in Boxing history they say watch Holmes get up and he was a Great great Fighter it's hard to stay on top that long without being great he fooled many..Larry was Legendary
Cooney should and could have been the champ with awesome power. But holmes was man great jab hurtful right hand. Good to know they are now great friends thats respect😊
Cooney was a tough SOB, but Holmes was an elite heavyweight champ, underrated but DOMINATED during his prime...
Man, there were so much “ White Hype “ and”BS’ back then that they even introduced the champ first and then the challenger like he was the champ! LMAO!😂
And Howard Cossell was awful in general, but his bias was palpable throughout this fight. Shameful
Don king...Holmes on some good Peruvian marching powder😂
Holmes won that fight hands down !!
I saw the fight at a huge banquet hall in Tampa with a very amped up crowd. I remember those low blows, the racial tension palpable. Larry was treated poorly at times by the media and some terrible judging at times, not so much this fight.
Holmes was introduced first even though he was the defending champion. That speaks volumes.
people have forgotten what a great champion holmes was. such a shame Cooney had no ring craft to his arsenal..
The European observers of this fight including those two biased judges and Cossell were overwhelmed with wishful thinking. Crazy Cossell is saying Holmes has nothing left while he's demolishing Cooney. Shame of all time
Credit to Larry for winning his way, but would've loved to see Cooney vs Tyson. Iron Mike would've waded in under Cooneys 1-dimensional defence and blasted him apart within 2 rounds.
How about young George Forman, Tyson trying too walk thru that,not happening
Yeah, Cooney was much bigger than Tyson and certainly more talented than Buster Douglas or Kevin McBride
After the fight, even Larry Holmes admitted that if Gerry had been fighting any other HW in the world active at that time for the title, he would have won it that night. He said Gerry had more heart, and a bit more power than people gave him credit for.
Gerry Cooney was an average fighter. nothing more nothing less. Michael Spinks showed that we he KO'd him. The only person Cooney beat was an old glass jaw Ken Norton.
Holmes at his best,this holmes i would rank right behind ali as 2nd greatest hw in boxing history.smooth as silk,coony at times look confused these judges were off there rocker on there scoreing
The Top 3 Weapons in Heavyweight History
#3 Holmes' Piston Jab
#2 Smokin' Joe's Hook
#1 Ali's Willpower
50:00 "get rough, get rough".... Just a corner-code which of cause means: HIT LOW.!!!
Like he was doing all along!! The joke was when he hit Larry 3 times under the belt... The ref did nothing - and those biased stupid judges (all 3) - gave thát round to Gerry.!!!
This was a polarizing fight to say the least. I was in sixth grade at the time and I clearly recall kids arguing on the bus divided by racial lines. Even as kids unfortunately we knew about that, and even worse we fought one another over something like a boxing match, and I don't mean fist fight I mean serious arguing.
I was 20 years old and yes I do remember it well being tremendously racially divided, it was so disrespectful how Larry Holmes was treated, how in the hell in a Championship fight, the fight announcer, annouces the champion first!!! And why would Ring magazine put Gerry Cooney the Challenger on the front page and Larry Holmes the Champion on the back page??? President Reagan requested a phone be put in Gerry Cooney's locker room so after Cooney wins the Championship the President would call to congratulate him, the fight judge's we're all white and had Cooney winning the fight, which even if you look at the fight from 40 years ago, Larry Holmes won all the rounds, he was literally pummeling Cooney thought out the fight with his jab, if Holmes wouldn't have knocked him out he would have lost the fight, which would have been bullshit!!!!
Did that funny announcer said that Conney refused to go down, he looked pretty down to me fella hanging on the ropes doesn't mean that bum didn't go down. Seriously hilarious 😂
If Cooney managed to land three punches without throwing a low blow he was given the round. And Howard describing the last round saying it was “sloppy” while Holmes lands blow after blow was laughable.
Cooney hit holmes so bad that he was almost out
Or questioning why Holmes wasn't moving more in the 100 degree heat.
Sounds like your one of those people who made it a radical thing!Ur probably out looking for a great black hope....you better keep looking around because from the middle weights on up no black champs.Lol😂
Great fight.
Victor Valle saved his fighter from additional punishment and it was the correct decision. Larry Holmes is total domination. This is a brilliant performance for all time. I think it was Larry Merchant who said one fighter was a complete pro and one fighter was an incomplete pro.
Cooney has a funny looking body,long thin legs,skinny arms with little muscle. Just a funny looking guy
I think they used to call that "Spindly" "Gawky" or "gangly"
I'd rather be 5'0" and have an "V" shaped athletic build than to be over 6' and look like Cooney.
True, but I wouldn't want a liver shot from him.
When judges be judging " they ought not be sitting together 🙄
Truly one of the best fights ever. From the build up to the actual fight. A classic.
Dc
IMO, this fight failed to live up to all the hype. Holmes outclassed Cooney from the get go. If anything, this fight exposed just how overrated Cooney was. Cooney was great fighting aging heavyweights but when he came up against a top champion, he was completely out of his league.
Your kidding right?? Cooney landed one clean shot....to the body. That's it.
@@georgfriedrichhandel4390 True but also his style like slugger was wrong against skilled and fast outboxer like Holmes.
@@Shovelhook You're absolutely right. Before Holmes, Cooney's fights seldom went more than five rounds because he usually knocked his opponents out in the first few rounds but as you said, when he faced a scientific boxer like Holmes, he was like a duck in a cockfight. Bottom line, Cooney was never as great as everyone believed he was and didn't deserve to be ranked number 1.
One of the best fights off all time
This was a hugely anticipated fight. One closed-circuit venue was a race track somewhere in New York State. Something like 72,000 fans bought tickets there.
Imagine a fighter, who trained hard and prepared himself apologizing (in his exit interview) to "all the people who wanted me to win..." BS --- Cooney knew all along that this was bigger than him or a title fight and that it was being billed as a pseudo-race war!!! Shameless by all his handlers and the media circus around the fight!!!
@@ellismarcelle5579 Yes, but it was the only way to build the fight for top $$ , cuz there was nothing in Cooney s record that suggested he should have been there to start with.
I find Cooney a horrible fighter doesn't know how to cut the ring too much with the left hand don't train to use his right his trainer don't know how to train him. Tied that left hand train with the right till it is usable that is why Holmes kept going to the left in the ring have he learn to cut the ring use that right would have been a whole different fight. Sorry Gerry you needed to get the right trainer Cus Amato maybe?
I only gave Cooney rounds 4 and 8 although the early rounds were very close. The judges disagreed with me on both fighters at times but I don't have a problem with their scoring. I just thought Larry landed cleaner mostly but no issue with the scoring seen by me. It was that close early on. I had bet on Cooney that night but was worried right away about that bet at the time. I realized how good Larry was that night.
Checking the scorecards after every round, I really didn't see a problem with the judges either. I didn't give Cooney the close rounds, but I have the TV angle and my own bias against the potential of a robbery. What was evident rewatching this fight was that Cooney might have been winning rounds, but he was losing the fight. He was losing points for fouls and he was losing on cumulative damage. Holmes was on his way to a TKO sooner or later because Cooney wasn't effective on offense or defense anymore.
Larry Holmes In his prime
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Today, we will be seeing this fight for whose moment of glory! Who thou shall take this land couragely! And Put our stamp of Victories to this Land!
Barry I am Irish have to say Larry fought a very smart fight the rap on Coonney is his endurance because of all the power in his punches if I remember the 13th round Conney gassed out From the looks of the early to middle rounds Cooney looked like he did have some boxing skills.
No he was gassed out in the 9th, Larry carried to the 13th and decided that's when he would end it.
Cooney was naturally left handed but fought from an orthodox stance. If you watch his right, and he landed on Holmes with his right throughout the fight, there wasn't much power behind it. Why he fought this way who knows.
@@marknorris1381 That's an outstanding point Even.I.didnt realize it .Looking at the fight and if I was training Cooney I would of had him throwing more punches especially after he connects with 2 or 3 in a row. It's like he throws a few punches connects and backs away. Sort of an amateur style. Holmes had 187 years of experience in.his corner Ray Arcel Eddie Futch Richie Giachetti. Cooney had 6 years Victor Valle
@@williammedve1061 Larry was too good. He was a great champion in his heyday.
I saw this fight when it happened. Great fight by both fighters. Cooney had one of the hardest left hooks in boxing history. I did not say the best I said the hardest. Let me tell you why Cooney lost this fight . His team would not him fight the top black fighters before he fought Holmes. Had they let Cooney fight those black fighters he may have had a chance to win that fight. The great Larry Holmes had been there before. If you remember Holmes and Ken Norton had a life and death fight back in 1988 or 89. Holmes pulled out the win. Holmes knew he could go 15 hard rounds, Cooney found out the hard way that he could not. Cooney was never the same after this fight. The judging was spot on I have no issues after watching it again. Boxing has always been a racist sport . Letting Cooney enter the ring last was a slap in the face to Larry Holmes. Larry Holmes top three heavy weights ever. Coach Dirk White.
Not just black fighters were avoided as Cooney should have fought Gerrie Coetzee too. Several contenders could have been a chance of putting a loss on Cooney's record coming up but in the long run he would have been better prepared when his title shot came.
Cooney had a perfect record leading up to the match with Holmes, I think Cooneys management didn't want to risk that record by having Cooney face some of the top ranked heavyweights of the time. Mike Weaver, Michael Dokes, Tim Witherspoon, Greg Page, all were capable of beating Cooney.
Larry Holmes knocked the white off of Cooney.
The funny thing is Larry Holmes and Jerry Cooney are very good friends today and talk to each other almost every other day apparently. Just like Muhammad Ali and George Foreman became very good friends and talk to each other almost every other day.
Larry was unfortunately the fighter who took Ali's title and the press and fans never forgave him for it. Larry was a true champion, fought anyone and everyone who came along. He wasn't media savoy and they treated him wrong, period. "Let's have a good fight , " Larry says to Cooney . Cooney knew the racist BS was wrong and couldn't even look at Larry. In the end it was Larry who proved who was the better man.
Larry didn't take Ali's title. Ali tried to take Larry's title. It was a very ill advised fight.
Forgave him? Why? He beat the hell out of Ali! Nothing to apologize for, Ali is to blame for signing a contract he knew he wouldn’t be able to cash with his mouth!
The judging was racially biased
They were not human beings but complete fools . Who does not in any way deserves to be in that judgement table. Unfortunately, this is present world we now live in .
Holmes was a better fighter boxer than Ali and only just behind joe Louis so coney fought a great fight against Holmes
Cooney so overrated he had no chance against Holmes
I remember my middle school science teacher telling us about her and her husband watching the fight, at the Sunrise Highway movie theater in Long Island. They were the only Black folk, in the joint. They elect to sit in the back. Why the back? The back exit was right there, so when Holmes whipped Cooney, which he did, they could easily sneak out and laugh their asses all the way to their car, and get out....!
Cooney was a pretty good fighter,he just didn't have stamina
The great white hype...Holmes was a very underrated champion. In The best 5 of all time .
Holmes best skill was his chin. His great chin enabled him to win his tough fights. Puches that cooney and shavers used to knockout other fighters, or hurt them causing them to cover up and fight defensive, had no impact on Holmes allowing his offensive skills to win the day
I can’t disagree with that. Holmes seemed like he was confident in his chin too. He took shots like Forman did sometimes. Bull wuz literally a real life Apollo Creed with no Rocky.
Thanks for the upload, coachstrout, it's very interesting to hear the judges commenting on their scoring between rounds. Whatever you think of the scoring, this job takes concentration for 10 to 15 rounds = more than half an hour, and keep in mind that the average youtuber's attention span is half a minute.
Love how the champ set him up in round 2 magnificent.... Larry Holmes the Eastern assassin!
I went to the cooney training camp in Palm Springs when I was a kid ..met Ali and got his autograph
I don't think people give Cooney his due! I have seen him knock out a lot of fighters within the first four rounds-Norton, Lyle, Gregg, Young. I remember when Larry Holmes said that Marciano could not wear his jockstrap when asked about Marciano's 49-0 record. I don't think Holmes would have beaten Ali in his prime.
George Foreman said that Cooney hit harder than Joe Frazier. Incredible power.
Holmes clearly had an iron chin, he took a lot of hard shots here off Cooney, including left hooks, and never looked badly hurt.
I think Cooney was also a better fighter than some gave him credit for.
I'd say here that it was fairly close on points, until Cooney got tired.
Remember, Cooney beating past their prime fighters to pad his record. Cooney Gough a decent fight but was totally outclassed by Holmes.
In the ring, two fighters beat each other up for 13 rounds in a inhuman rage. Yet out of it, showed extreme humility and kindness for there family, people and friends.
My brother Larry and I watched this fight at the Dothan Civic Civic Center in Dothan AL. We were the only black people in the building and it was packed. Every time Holmes would land a punch we would make as much noise as we could for Holmes. But when they stopped the fight we went crazy. No one said a word to us but we really rubbed it in their faces. We both were good fighters so there was nothing to worry about LOL. Coach Dirk White
Dangerous thing to do. You guys were lucky there.
Psssh. Dirk White?
More like DORK White.
Nice little novella.
See, you can be racist too 😊
Even before the 13th round, the fight wasn't as close as those two "judges" would have one believe. Cooney probably won three rounds in the fight.
Yeah they called it off cause didn't want to see Cooney knocked out .
Holmes was the man! Why didn't he ever unify the titles?
What year in the 80's was this fight?
1982.