Did KTN give Kagombe tea or something else alcoholic? The hubris and careless talk among some of these young KK politicians and their supporters is shockingly egregious.
Kagombe is on point , Raila and azimio commanders goons!!! and calls them out to cause mayhem!!,let Raila accept he was defeated and Kenya will move forward!!
@@paulodera6240 Why vilify Kagombe when he spoke the truth !that there are people who feel a sense of entitlement, that it is either them or there is no Kenya ,it is either them or they split the country ,it is either them or there will be np peace, Kaluma could not withstand baba being exposed !!
Ktn should be careful on the choice of debaters they bring on set. Some of this juveniles lack wisdom and it's a shame to electors and Kenyans as whole.
Kagombe, why are you treating Kenyans to a comedy of nonsense? Why are you lying in an unintelligible manner? Azimio leadership has clearly expressed their disinterest and displeasure in any handshake arrangement. Ken, please get better and sober thinking fellows when addressing/discussing serious issues. Characters like Kagombe should be appearing on Comedy Central!
It is very disheartening when a leader says we do not need dialogue at a time when kenya is almost getting into the ditch. Surely, who are we gonna run to when these are the leaders we are force to elect, crooks!!!
The KK Alliance Leadership will carry the blood of all who died under the watch of IG , Interior, and Executive.. the blood is in their hands, respect should have been observed , we are loosing it as a country..
UDA guys aren't leaders. This is a group of students trying to behave like class prefects. No thinking, just talking to pass time. Its truly hurting that these are the people representing us at the international level
Proverbs 26:4-5 "Don't answer the foolish arguments of fools, or you will become as foolish as they are" Kaluma you did the right thing to walk away from the likes of Kangombe. The man is clueless, full of himself, an ignorant elected person in public office, because of his noise making and an idiot who is very insensitive and does not use his brains to think. These are the people who believe power belongs to them when in a public office and not to serve. They should be reminded that Kenya is not only Mount Kenya and Rift valley region.
WWE kangombe ngombe tumekufatilia kwa mijadala mob aki unaufala you must change for the better future otherwise hauendi mahali mpuzi sana wewe!!!!nani alikuchagua wewe nyinyi watu wa mlima mnakuanga naujinga sana
Kenyans for heavens sake we are Babylon, weeping and gnashing of teeth will be the order of the day. May the good Lord take as to Jerusalem like yesterday, 2027 is too far Lord
Please note sometimes in my community we don't talk like this gentleman in the program. How the police is used against us luos another government will one day and time against your community! I didn't know whether you will be celebrating. Be mature and don't remain a child. Thanks Hon Kaluma to walk out of this debate.
I personally I am sick of kikuyus and kalenjins ruling kenyans, we're going to shakahola all of us hizo damu ni mbaya sana. We need change. Thank God he is working overtime to make the idiots be exposed and fail terribly. Thanks be to God
As much I sympathize with the people from the Lake but the arrogance with them is wanting they dared they want more teargas thinking the government is a lamé duck . They went ahead and attacked even police stations. Never dare the government the leaders should tell their people to stop this nonsense! Now they are crying none of their sons participated in the Mandamanos! Only the innocent people boys they led to their fate. Very unfortunate in deed .
The inherent right to life is inalienable. Under Art 26, A person shall not be deprived of life intentionally. It's astounding that a not so honourable leader can ridicule the victims who lost lives to unparalleled police brutally so as to appease his honchos. SAD
Kinuthia speaks from both sides of the mouth, there is no country in the world where citizens are asked to choose how they should be taxed, the choice of mwananchi is on the ballot ,if one side of the divide is high on tax, is booted out and the one that is low on tax is voted in !
What was the public participation about then? In your myopic mind, Kenyans have one bullet to fire to make their intentions known & the 5years - 1 day that follows they watch helplessly as murderers, con men, thieves & hustlers run amok? Wewe peleka hiyo ujinga Mt. Kenya!!!
I used to love Javas Bigambo eloquency and analysis but nowdays he is a very conflicted fellow...He is more of UDA apologist ...Its not fair to call him an governace expert ,he is a UDA apologist
Bure kabisa I agree He needs to borrow a leaf from the likes of Eric Latiff, C.T. Muga and Ndu Okoh at Spice FM situation room so professional journalists.
Ken as a moderator you didn't allow facts alot of propaganda was aired yet we have facts this inverview was skewed, what does he mean the bill wasn't debated, we have clips on opposition members in parliament speaking, experts gave opinions other than that as a moderator on a national platform u serve an information pivot kindly filter as much as possible to the truth
but lets be realistic, how dare sane person go to street and throw stones to another person with feelings like him all with an aim of injuring them,,, a times, see what is in your hand and whats in the other person hand and ask yourself one question,,,huyu mtu akitumia kitu ako nayo venye nataka kutumia yangu, nini itafanyika? we will all end up injuring or killing to ourselves and we come back reading the constitution to the already dead people. MADNESS!!!!!!
The government of the day is not allowed to kill its own people .... we all pays taxes regardless of what political formation we belongs to , we pay salaries of this police and Ruto
If we had the pannel for president id vote J Bigambo..having watcjed his engagement in diferrent fora, he is always factualky impressive ....are there any consideration to prop this sober son of kenya a leadership or policy firmulation role?..we need this kind of insight to address the progress of the nation ...as for the gentleman that walked out...sadly any man claiming wisdom and cant sit through what he perceives as folly ...then that in itself is a weak mind unworthy of the excercises of politics
According to you those boys and girls dragged out of their rooms in wee hours of the night and butchered by police were used as the shield by Azimio ? Shocking.
The brilliance of Mr. Kaluma can not be equated to the crew on thiw table! KTN this is a let down to the kenyans😢. Really waited for this show now see,,,
The Government must run, Maandamano cannot be the solution always.. How you ask the questions as an anchor and host determines the direction the conversation goes.
Kaluma must also know that you cant be fighting police and expect them to cheer you up!. Calling others childish yet they call for maandamano with stones without their kids and infact fail to attend as leaders is using ignorrance of citzens
Kaluma being an ODM follower and Railas extreme follower...he is used in using intimidation language...one does not even need to be in politics to know the AZIMIOs incited certain youths into violence...these talks are a complete waste of time...if AZIMIO did not invite destrutctive protests such deaths should not have taken place...did kaluma expect Police to just stay put when youths are burning tyres and throwing stones...Kaluma should just go to courts and stop lectures on results of such acts...deaths of innocent Kenyans can not now be used to just the talks..
I can hear azimio side talking of police killing, but they are not talking of goons killing police ,destroying property,stealing by force,,if u are talking of the rule of law then go to the crusider if the demonstration, did he follow the law? Protesters doing as per the law ,why are ur going to the result of the people who break the law ?
The alleged specialized police unit does not exist, it's the Mungiki which Azimio through their chairman organized to kill Luo's and blame it on the police and that's why their security was withdrawn and guns from selected leaders recalled
Kalumba you did good. That's a true heart of a leader from a marginalised group of citizens .
This man Kaluma is composed and very much intelligent 👍👍 a mind of a mature leader,good option sir
Kagombe was out of order on his statements and this is what is the problem with this government speaking on one side of the mouth..
Kaluma with that opening statement is sober and on point💯
If we continue this way we are all going to loose this country kenya belongs to all of us not only one or two tribes...
Name Kagombe has meaning. He is true to his name, Kagombe literally is someone who is thick. Gatundu people you don't have a leader
Kagombe ni Kagege tu 😅
Same place where Mouthy Moses Kuria comes from. Doomed region
Kagombe ndari hakiri
Kagombe debating like a student leader.....
Javas is always obsessively focused on his grasp of English than the subject matter. English ni lugha tu kama zingine.
KALUMA - 92% BIGAMBO - 90% FANYA - 90% KAGOMBE - 12%
Dreaming...Kangombe won ....wacha uongo...
@@nancykubok217 for cows..
Did KTN give Kagombe tea or something else alcoholic? The hubris and careless talk among some of these young KK politicians and their supporters is shockingly egregious.
Kagombe is on point , Raila and azimio commanders goons!!! and calls them out to cause mayhem!!,let Raila accept he was defeated and Kenya will move forward!!
@@mmwaapamghambonyi7836uko na laana wewe ket that blood be upon you and your family shame on you
Nothing to do with KTN , it's got to do with what is between his ears
@@mmwaapamghambonyi7836only fools like you believe that.
@@paulodera6240 Why vilify Kagombe when he spoke the truth !that there are people who feel a sense of entitlement, that it is either them or there is no Kenya ,it is either them or they split the country ,it is either them or there will be np peace, Kaluma could not withstand baba being exposed !!
Ktn should be careful on the choice of debaters they bring on set. Some of this juveniles lack wisdom and it's a shame to electors and Kenyans as whole.
It's good for citizens to see the kind of useless servants they vote in using emotions rather than logic,merit and integrity.
KTN you're not serious how dare you host such a piece of a person Ka🐄 His Shame is Shaming me as a Kenyan 😢
Could be his parents had a premonition and gave him the name. A cow. The rest I leave for you
KTN ni afadhali.. i wish to see the people who voted for such..🤣🤣
Sometimes walking out is the best option.
kabisa
Men ought to face each other...Kaluma is being lead by his emotions....kiburi inakaribia kaburi 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Kogombe times and seasons change be very careful when talking it might come to haunt you in the near future.
Kagombe, why are you treating Kenyans to a comedy of nonsense? Why are you lying in an unintelligible manner? Azimio leadership has clearly expressed their disinterest and displeasure in any handshake arrangement. Ken, please get better and sober thinking fellows when addressing/discussing serious issues. Characters like Kagombe should be appearing on Comedy Central!
Very silly arguments from Kagombe
Hon Karuma did well.which sober minded person can sit with such a reckless and childish person !!
I love the mind of the leader in a grey pullover ❤
I guess our country has gone to the dogs, so sad "mungu aturehemu"
How do some guys get into parliament honestly? Total shame Kagombe
Kagombe means cow icase you didn't know. The guy comes from Gatundu. Same place where Mouthy Moses Kuria comes from. Doomed region, sorry citizens
It very very painful and some people are happy of police killings,God will be the judge
Sad for a whole politician to say the police force has a sacred duty to protect property, so who protects lives then
KTN you can't afford to have that kagombe guy on any debate. He is so childish.
Why would an IG visit a hospital to count the number of injured and dead demonstrators
The more I watch this the more I just weep@ktn this is a shame level of engagement is trash
Walking away was a mature move...slapping and kicking would be an option but still wouldn't help
A thug from kiambu is sharing his thought on a national TV, shame on this guy , he should be aware that it's not this way ...
Akili ni nywele kweli, i hope the gatundu GARBAGE went home having learnt something
😹😹😹😹💀
Kagambo is so tribal.
They think that everyone who's demonstrating is aluo.
Its funny how tribal our leaders have become 😢😢
KAHOMBE🐂🐃🐄🐂🐃🐄🐂🐃🐄🐂🐃🐄 should never be on any tv panal. It's ashame to the Kikuyu community for elacting tugege.
It's a shame that is the man representing gatundu constituency ...
We need a brilliant Leaders like Kaluma
I can't believe this is how low has kenya sunk.. Kindly medically check kangombe wether he is mentality conscious ..
It is very disheartening when a leader says we do not need dialogue at a time when kenya is almost getting into the ditch. Surely, who are we gonna run to when these are the leaders we are force to elect, crooks!!!
this Gatundu mp is bonkers 😂😂
He's bonkers indeed, oozing with ignorance 😢
Ken please do not bring the likes of Kagombe on show.
The KK Alliance Leadership will carry the blood of all who died under the watch of IG , Interior, and Executive.. the blood is in their hands, respect should have been observed , we are loosing it as a country..
President of venezuela government ya goons bandits mwiziiiiii waroka nonsense afungue servers
Ngombe ni ngombe
Huyo mjumbe wa mt.kenya anajiona nmjanja na wao ndio wanakula wenzao
Did you lack anyone else rather than empty minded kagombe
UDA guys aren't leaders. This is a group of students trying to behave like class prefects. No thinking, just talking to pass time. Its truly hurting that these are the people representing us at the international level
Good debate but a waste of time. I believe if we understand how democracy works we should not waste time on this debate.
Proverbs 26:4-5
"Don't answer the foolish arguments of fools, or you will become as foolish as they are"
Kaluma you did the right thing to walk away from the likes of Kangombe. The man is clueless, full of himself, an ignorant elected person in public office, because of his noise making and an idiot who is very insensitive and does not use his brains to think. These are the people who believe power belongs to them when in a public office and not to serve. They should be reminded that Kenya is not only Mount Kenya and Rift valley region.
Remove kangombe with his pride of nonsense..we pay these type of people!!!!!
WWE kangombe ngombe tumekufatilia kwa mijadala mob aki unaufala you must change for the better future otherwise hauendi mahali mpuzi sana wewe!!!!nani alikuchagua wewe nyinyi watu wa mlima mnakuanga naujinga sana
Ata Ruto mlisema haendi mahali na hawezi kuwa president Sasa wewe sijui kura yako inamsaidia aje kagombe you just vote who you want leave our mp alone
Bring matured people kindly,who is this kambuzi guy
Kenyans for heavens sake we are Babylon, weeping and gnashing of teeth will be the order of the day. May the good Lord take as to Jerusalem like yesterday, 2027 is too far Lord
Please note sometimes in my community we don't talk like this gentleman in the program. How the police is used against us luos another government will one day and time against your community! I didn't know whether you will be celebrating. Be mature and don't remain a child. Thanks Hon Kaluma to walk out of this debate.
Hi ngombe kweli
I personally I am sick of kikuyus and kalenjins ruling kenyans, we're going to shakahola all of us hizo damu ni mbaya sana. We need change. Thank God he is working overtime to make the idiots be exposed and fail terribly. Thanks be to God
60 yrs we have been in government and u are still dreaming of kikuyus being in opposition that will never happen
People with protesting spirit ... Will always protest against their own thesis.
Kangombe behaving like ng'ombe
Ukweli ndo gani
Ken pls watu kaa kagombe apana..
There should be decorum in any argument.
Lies doesn't last long.
Tso these are the best people Gatundu South can produce?
hio ngombe ilienda kukunywa pombe
As much I sympathize with the people from the Lake but the arrogance with them is wanting they dared they want more teargas thinking the government is a lamé duck . They went ahead and attacked even police stations. Never dare the government the leaders should tell their people to stop this nonsense! Now they are crying none of their sons participated in the Mandamanos! Only the innocent people boys they led to their fate. Very unfortunate in deed .
Human life is sacred even Luo life matters anyway the day someone close to you Experience police brutality you'll weigh your words
An MP says we don't need dialogue?😂
Yeah.. dialogue is a waste of time .. nothing good will come from that dialogue 😂😂😂😂😂😂
What is hurting that guy to leave the debate it's not worthy
Kaluma is intelligent and doesn't wanna get dragged into this shitie conversation with that gatundu mp ... he's oozing with ignorance
Bigambo should continue eating while citizens are hungry. Nowonder amenona uso.
The inherent right to life is inalienable. Under Art 26, A person shall not be deprived of life intentionally.
It's astounding that a not so honourable leader can ridicule the victims who lost lives to unparalleled police brutally so as to appease his honchos. SAD
We don't have a country here.
Kinuthia speaks from both sides of the mouth, there is no country in the world where citizens are asked to choose how they should be taxed, the choice of mwananchi is on the ballot ,if one side of the divide is high on tax, is booted out and the one that is low on tax is voted in !
What was the public participation about then? In your myopic mind, Kenyans have one bullet to fire to make their intentions known & the 5years - 1 day that follows they watch helplessly as murderers, con men, thieves & hustlers run amok? Wewe peleka hiyo ujinga Mt. Kenya!!!
@@abdiguhad5918 add PREACHERS tks
I used to love Javas Bigambo eloquency and analysis but nowdays he is a very conflicted fellow...He is more of UDA apologist ...Its not fair to call him an governace expert ,he is a UDA apologist
Ken mijungu is a very biased tv anchor, BURE KABISA.
Bure kabisa I agree
He needs to borrow a leaf from the likes of Eric Latiff, C.T. Muga and Ndu Okoh at Spice FM situation room so professional journalists.
So Kaluma felt the truth that pieced to its core .
Always learn how to be attentively keen don't rush to spew the thick dung from the top
I wonder why KTN invites clowns when there are many reputable Kenyans that can discuss issues.
Mt. Kenya has a problem and they should wake up. Call out the government when they are wrong.
Javas goes to every debate with his theories and fsils to be part of a particular debate. I wonder why he came for this debate.
Wewe stick to ur mother tongue, i knw English isnt ur forte.... Nongweee 💀
Opps PM Kaluma ur becoming Lambistic acha feelings you should be on the table to prosecute your çase as a leader sasa ukipotea kwa podium
😹 We Mzee huna akili ingine?
This javas sijui bigambo makes me sick listening to, to much English but no content
Ni mpyaro sana
@@omwami360 your swahili paper 3 is working lol
I don't think that dude went to drink tea...labda long island ice tea.
Ken as a moderator you didn't allow facts alot of propaganda was aired yet we have facts this inverview was skewed, what does he mean the bill wasn't debated, we have clips on opposition members in parliament speaking, experts gave opinions other than that as a moderator on a national platform u serve an information pivot kindly filter as much as possible to the truth
but lets be realistic, how dare sane person go to street and throw stones to another person with feelings like him all with an aim of injuring them,,, a times, see what is in your hand and whats in the other person hand and ask yourself one question,,,huyu mtu akitumia kitu ako nayo venye nataka kutumia yangu, nini itafanyika? we will all end up injuring or killing to ourselves and we come back reading the constitution to the already dead people. MADNESS!!!!!!
The government of the day is not allowed to kill its own people .... we all pays taxes regardless of what political formation we belongs to , we pay salaries of this police and Ruto
Some leaders are pedestrians just like the Kagombe guy. Let him be banished from any meaningful debate.
If we had the pannel for president id vote J Bigambo..having watcjed his engagement in diferrent fora, he is always factualky impressive ....are there any consideration to prop this sober son of kenya a leadership or policy firmulation role?..we need this kind of insight to address the progress of the nation ...as for the gentleman that walked out...sadly any man claiming wisdom and cant sit through what he perceives as folly ...then that in itself is a weak mind unworthy of the excercises of politics
What is that th we y have not agreed
swallowing the truth is something else... Kaluma was given a smaller bit of the truth wnd he chose to leave😂😂 funny
Very true
So you support luos being killed? Enjoy for now...yenu itafika
According to you those boys and girls dragged out of their rooms in wee hours of the night and butchered by police were used as the shield by Azimio ? Shocking.
Which truth?
Kweli kakenjin labda apewe welevu kama maji
Kaluma what are you doing there in the first place...leave
The brilliance of Mr. Kaluma can not be equated to the crew on thiw table! KTN this is a let down to the kenyans😢. Really waited for this show now see,,,
Kaluma had nothing to say, nothing to tell kenyans and he left.Hiyo mambo ya kukodksha maiti ikome faster.
This gatundu mp is another moses kuria
next time please dont bring a guy who doesn't reason like that Kangombe guy
Great panel. These talks are a waste of time. Fanya Mambo is ludicrous. He just wants handshake
Fools like you believe that. Why is your government wanting leader of opposition brought back
What is ludicrous is ur fish shaped lips ... Nongweee 💀
A 🐄 is a 🐄
The Government must run, Maandamano cannot be the solution always.. How you ask the questions as an anchor and host determines the direction the conversation goes.
Awuoro 😢
Kaluma why are u not talking of many people who were left into great poverty
Kaluma must also know that you cant be fighting police and expect them to cheer you up!. Calling others childish yet they call for maandamano with stones without their kids and infact fail to attend as leaders is using ignorrance of citzens
Tushukishe ujinga kiasi tukidiscuss issues za maana bros'.Police broke into peoples residents and beat them up(shoot them).
@@alfongesh not good also using stones eti nyi wanaume to police , ni ujinga pia . also sungura ulilia aliyemuamusha c mwenye alimua , ,,,,,
Cost of living what Ruto can not bring down cost of the life that Raila has coaused
Tugege in Mt Kenya can see
In soberness sake what are the objectives of the much awaited dialogue.
Kaluma being an ODM follower and Railas extreme follower...he is used in using intimidation language...one does not even need to be in politics to know the AZIMIOs incited certain youths into violence...these talks are a complete waste of time...if AZIMIO did not invite destrutctive protests such deaths should not have taken place...did kaluma expect Police to just stay put when youths are burning tyres and throwing stones...Kaluma should just go to courts and stop lectures on results of such acts...deaths of innocent Kenyans can not now be used to just the talks..
I cant watch this sorry
I can hear azimio side talking of police killing, but they are not talking of goons killing police ,destroying property,stealing by force,,if u are talking of the rule of law then go to the crusider if the demonstration, did he follow the law? Protesters doing as per the law ,why are ur going to the result of the people who break the law ?
The alleged specialized police unit does not exist, it's the Mungiki which Azimio through their chairman organized to kill Luo's and blame it on the police and that's why their security was withdrawn and guns from selected leaders recalled
What nonsense @
Ooh, so you have the evidence the leader of Azimio dispensed guns to kill the so called citizens, right!?
You'll have to prove it.
Brain washed
You don't have to use your nail to think;engage your brain sometimes,it worth it.
Zima hiyo kitu
i love this guy kagombe, i didn't know he is as good as this.
Just hope you are joking!
What is he good of??
@@BenardOdhiambo-zu3rghating Luos
How is he good?
You should be ashamed of yourself... oozing ignorance
Kathietha
Why is jalango never in this kind of discussions
What intelligence can Jalango express in this kind of discussions? Surely
Jalango is academic dwarf
These are political analysis who understands law not everyone can debate