Your observation that the shaky cam illustrates the Ghoul's remorse was something I had not picked up on in my first watch - you make incredible observations that heighten my enjoyment of shows that I already love!
@@rubenlopez3364 Lucy and the reminder of his own past self from the video clearly shaken him up. Makes me all the more stoked for the team-up in season 2, because those two characters obviously could learn a lot from each other.
The uniforms at the beginning are NCR Rangers uniform (from Fallout New Vegas, basically NCR special forces) the violin music is from Fallout 4 minutemen radio and after about 10 minutes of that it drives you crazy. This is why all the people trying to stop the transmission is hilarious to Fallout Veterans.
Seriously, keeping the Minutemen radio tuned in just to hear about missions, but hearing these few songs over and over and over made me turn off that radio station. It's so funny that they chose to use that music to trigger the Fallout 4 players, and it worked. I'd probably be one of those people caught in a trap, just trying to get to the guy and make him stop playing that music. :D
This episode had such a meta moment... At the radio station, you had DJ Carl (Fred Armisen) and Thaddeus (Johnny Pemberton) reflecting on how people don't like classical music, especially original presses. The music is from the game, the same music that people complained to the developers. This discussion is being portrayed by actors who, in previous roles, have played "musicians" who have performed poorly (for comedic effect in both instances) and were criticized in their shows! (As you mentioned, Pemberton as Bo in Superstore, and Armisen in Portlandia.) The conversation could very well have just been the actors talking before the "action" took place!! Very fun!
My favorite thing about this episode is that we find out the elixir salesman wasn’t 100% full of shit. In episode one he calls after Lucy and the scientist promising elixirs that heal feet or even grow completely new feet. Seems like if they had listened to him the whole story could have turns out much differently.
The opening scene is a DEEP CUT "easter egg". The older fella is played by Erik Estrada. He was one of the leads in a wildly popular show from the late 70s and early 80s, called "CHIPS". He played a CHP (California Highway Patrol) Motorcycle Cop. Now, in THIS show, he's wearing an "NCR Ranger" uniform. And in the Fallout world, NCR Rangers are the closest thing there is to CHP. Hell, even the color-scheme of the uniforms match. It's brilliant.
@@Karmagirl29 I grew up watching re-runs of "CHIPS", Dukes of Hazzard, and the "Smokey & the Bandit" movies. The grin on my face when I saw Erik extended off the sides of my face, I looked like a cartoon!
I love the setup, showing us the apparently idyllic vault 33 has a dark secret, while introducing us to 4, which starts off looking pretty sinister but turns out to be very idealistic.
@@dawidscheffler7152 Not really what happened. Stopping people from performing lethal, or catastrophically harmful, experiments on people isn't murder.
16:06 in the games... getting non-VATS hits in the game can be really difficult. The system V.A.T.S. is a function of the PIPboy on vault dwellers wrists, so a scribe in the Brotherhood of Steel like Thaddeus wouldn't have the assisted targeting system.
i was originally iffy in the fallout series when it was announced but i feel like the creator really got fallout. loved this show so much. cant wait til season 2
Not sure if someone mentioned it, but the whole bit about people not being fans of the classical music is a real world reference to some of the fans of the game who complained on online forums about one of the in game radio stations that played classical music.
My love for this series is that the people who shot it, clearly, has a love for the legacy of the lore and content of the games. They don't try to recreate the original. They instead embrace the campy dystopian world and just add another chapter that feels familiar to anyone who's played the games and welcomes others who have not.
I must say that seeing you comment on the composition of the shots in Fallout (and in other things you've reacted to) is so interesting to me - I'm not a film student, so my only real reaction is "Did I enjoy this thing or not?", seeing someone actually able to comment on the more technical aspects really helps me to understand the techniques used in a way I didn't before.
You are too young to know him. He's Erik Estrada. He played Officer Frank Poncherello (Ponch), on the TV show "CHiPs". Which meant "California Highway Patrol". Ran for 6 seasons, '77 to '83.
This episode has some incredible hammer lines that don't fully hit home until next episode. I have loved your reaction so far, I can't wait to watch the finale with you!
And the things those dudes are sifting for are lead slugs (bullet remnants), not caps. (Did she pick up on that and i missed it? If so, sorry.) The occupation is known as "Lead Farmer".
"Are you my mummy?" has perfect relevance! Fallout New Vegas "Dead Money" DLC .... ;) (Take the "Wild Wasteland" trait, trust me, lol) And the outfit is that of an NCR Elite Ranger
17:00 The Brotherhood of Steel, besides being the self-ordained preserver of knowledge is also obsessed with Purity. You can be whichever kind of human you want (man, woman, black, white, trans) and still be accepted, but the second you become un-human... you're the enemy.
@@Hare_deLune Enclave only consider themselves as pure 100% human. They considered everyone else as contaminated, even the normal humans. They're going for a total cleansing of the surface.
When the Chicken Diddler told us that Thadeus wouldn't have a problem with the radiation he'd have to pass through "now", it was a hint that he was a ghoul because ghouls are immune to radiation.
While Chicken Diddler has a kind of music to it, i still prefer the more vulgar Chicken F**ker. Probably because it reminds of an old Smothers Brothers comedy song... Dick: "My old man's a Cotton-Pickin' Finger-Lickin' Chicken Plucker, what do you think about that?" Tom: "You better not make a mistake."
Non-spoiler, but based on gameplay, I don’t think Thad is a ghoul. The inhaler he used is used for a lot of different meds. (We saw a raider use an inhaler in ep 1, likely using jet or another combat-enhancing med) Thad may have taken the healing mutation, as seen in fallout 76. It constantly heals you at a moderate rate. Chicken-lover might have mixed in something to resist radiation… the healing mutation does not address radiation, just injuries. I’m looking forward to maybe finding out more about Thad’s condition, and if it keeps accurate to the games. The show invented the inhaler that keeps ghouls from going feral.. in the games, going feral has unclear causes… human/mutant/feral/dead seems to rely on total radiation exposure, speed and strength of exposure, and time.
The mechanics for playable ghouls in 76 hint that drugs keep them from going feral. You take drugs , any kind, to reduce your feral meter. Which would explain why pretty much every ghoul you meet is on drugs.
I think someone owes the residents of Vault 4 an apology... Also, you may have had a misread on Vault 32. It's not a death sentence, remember the Vault functioned for two centuries without incident until ~something~ happened in the last two years...
She thinks she can't wait to watch episode 8? We can't wait for the reaction! Jacqui is about to have some costco-sized fun with the season finale! [edit: Oh, a fan of camerawork and visual subtext? Then just know that in Episode 8, we're gonna back up a fleet of trucks brimming with emotionally powerful camerawork and visual subtext!]
I like your comments on the camera shots and what emotions they are meant to portray. Dunno much about cinematography myself so I find this info really interesting. You definitely are one of my favorite Fallout reactors (😅 get it, reactor?)
17:43 YES! that's the essence of fallout. it's a treasure trove of dark humor. the games ha e been like this since the first one. they cranked the humor way up for fallout 2 then when Bethesda continued it they seemed to kind of straddle the line more between serious story and humor.
That scene at the beginning where the lead farmer calls for his daughter and the ghoul is just slowly and ominously chewing... chills... "oh did you think?"
Love that the path they are all taking makes the idea of who or what is good, bad or the right thing you should do, is never what you think it is from one moment to another.
So I agree that Fred Armisen is a win. But lets give some love to Chris Parnell - the Overseer of Vault 4. I have yet to see (or hear - Archer, Wordgirl) him in anything I didn't like him in, and he's got the comic chops to hit just the right tone of weird and suburban dad that's needed for the part.
Surreal Suburban Dad is a perfect descriptor for his natural style. I said in a separate comment, but did you notice that Fred Armisen (co-creator of Portlandia) was playing a character that would have been right at home on Portlandia? 😅
@inspectre27 - oh, absolutely. The hipster comment about vinyl, the refusal to play any other music. And the way it's played off as just this guy living in a radio station surrounded by lethal traps, but Armisen plays it like yeah, just another day. Completely oblivious to how weird it seems to outside observers - it fits in the Wasteland, it would fit in Portlandia.
You could tell The Ghoul didn't want to do that to the boy, but he had to. Its survival. He saw something in the boy's reaction about his brother, so the Ghoul pressed him, is he really walking out of here. The boy being not too wise giving his age, had to go for the weapon, leaving The Ghoul no choice. Walton did a good job is trying to convey his conflicted emotions of the character when he walked away, even though it would be hard to do with his makeup.
Walton (a.k.a. Boyd Crowder) also channeled his inner Marshall Givens (Timothy Olyphant): Provoking Tommy until "he pulled first", making the shooting Justified.
1:00 I thought this too, I think that was intended. The Ghoul survives every way he can. Quick healing is a video game thing, and healing broken limbs is a Fallout thing. Another game reference. A chem that turns you into a ghoul I think is new, I don't remember any of the games having that. This episode is a Kroll Show reunion. Thaddeus, Snake Doc (Jon Daly), and Armisen were on it.
In Fallout 1 it is hinted, that low level FEV exposure combined with a lot of radiation might turn you into a ghoul. A LOT of FEV (they literally "dip" prisoners in huge vats of full of FEV suspension to make their Super Mutant Army) will turn you into a super mutant. The verdict is still pending on Thaddeus. My money is on super mutant, mostly because we've only been hinted at a single one in the show yet (on a stretcher cart in the Enclave base in Ep. 2, all you see is a huge body under a shroud and a green hand protruding from under it)
@@arminwolff1748 I don't remember this detail, but I haven't played in a long time. I was surprised at the lack of super mutants in the show though so maybe that's what it was, but also FEV is a strange thing for that guy to have, but maybe it's a hint to his background or something.
@@firstelderd Well, the show does take place in California, and both the WestTek research facility (aka the Glow), where it was developed, and the Mariposa military base, where it was mass-produced in order to build the super mutant army, are located. And though both are destroyed, it's not unlikely that there may be some remaining stock to be recovered. Also, as the destruction of the production facility and their command center was in 2161 (135 years ago), so it makes perfect sense that the number of super mutants has dwindled in 2296
The opening scene of the ghoul sitting in the kitchen was almost entirely taken from the first scene with Lee Van Cleef, at the start of, "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly." 😊
I don't think Thadius is going to be a Ghoul, he's going to be something much worse. I think you might enjoy the Netflix Series, Fall of the House Usher. and Amazon's anthology series Secret Level.
17:33 the day I watched this show for myself, I had recently binged a whole lot of reactions for the movie "Eurotrip", so seeing Fred Armisen in here really threw me for a loop! 17:37 "So messed up and so funny" That's Fallout in a nutshell! Considering you've most likely seen the reveals of the next episode by now: 8:36 that line lands very differently.
I love that they're setting up a redemption arc for the Ghoul but they aren't rushing it. Too many shows and movies, knowing a villain is going to be a fan favorite character, are in too big of a hurry to rehabilitate them into someone the fans can root for. The very first time the hero shows good will to the villain, he magically becomes a good guy from then on. But the Ghoul, as we see at the start of this episode, despite having some redeeming qualities is still very much a bad guy, and will likely still be a source of conflict for Lucy well into season 2.
3:53 It was a huge bomb. 5:10 This is kinda the context clue, since it is more show don't tell. But yes, basically the majority of vaults in Fallout are actually social experiments. That's why, in the games, you usually only find fallen vaults. You can then explore them and try to puzzle together the pieces (visual storytelling, notes, hacked terminals, enemy types, etc) to figure out what happened in there. 8:42 Awwwhaha. 11:44 Remember in episode 2 when Lucy was leaving Filly with Wilzig and he was there, trying to sell them a potion that could grow an entire new foot? :D 14:03 He doesn't even need the dog anymore, since his target is now Moldaver, not the head. 14:49 *her The Trap got you got though. :)
As the penultimate episode, this one is solid. Some hilarious moments, some dark and foreboding. And none of it can still prepare you for the finale, which goes completely bonkers.
Three separate f-bombs that weren't defused... That's an appropriate level of surprise for this episode. Even has that one line I'm intentionally leaving vague that hits particularly different on rewatch.
The title cards harken back to the silent film era when you literally had to be told what something was off screen or rely on the piano player to set the tone. Fred Armisen- “Critics” line was epic ❤
In a cooler? If you're referencing Dog Meat in FO4, he's outside of the Red Rocket station just outside of Sanctuary, not in a cooler. But yes, same general location (a gas station).
6:00 In Thaddeus's defence, he has a mission of supposed vital importance to get the head back to the Brotherhood. But his foot has been severely smooshed, the 404 (the dog) is not only slowing him down but also drawing unwanted attention by constantly yanking at the bag (with the head), and that's before 404 tried nibbling on Thaddeus's aforementioned smooshed foot. 😂😂
Something i noticed about Fred Armisen that i've never seen anyone else mention: Fred was co-creator of the show Portlandia, and on Fallout he plays a character that could easily have been on Portlandia. 😅
14:57 Wow you're the 1st reaction to Fallout video that knew who that was. Most people don't recognize him when he's not in his blue makeup. He's my favorite member of the Blue Man Group
Not sure if you caught it, but the scientists in the Vault 4 log were the same happy couple from the commercial at the beginning of the previous episode.
"Beautiful shot. Very 'Searchers.'" Jacqui, I cannot possibly express how much I love the fact that you are familiar with what is, in my personal estimation, the greatest Western ever made.
I don't think Thadeus is a ghoul, that's not how it works ...I think he was given a form of FEV (Forced Evolutionary Virus) which may turn him into a super mutant.
Its a good misdirection, because none of the characters know about FEV. Here's my reasoning: the guy claimed to be a scientist, he immediately recognized the fusion core, and he didn't mix the stuff he put in the inhaler...it was already in a bottle in his case. The biggest ones though are the most simple--ghouls aren't made by taking anything, and most importantly, they don't regenerate. Super mutants do. If ghouls regenerated, there wouldn't have been a need to sew on Lucy's finger, and a single pistol shot wouldn't kill a feral at the Super Duper Mart. Plus Thaddeus will make a hilarious super mutant!
To be fair there have been those exposed to FEV who turned into ghouls like Harold and Tallus from Vault 13 so its not impossible. But yes, he's most likely turning into a Super Mutant.
"Most people don't know the difference between the noxious and the benign, or the potion I was looking for on the shelf before you threatened me and the potion I gave you from my bag."
When you've done with Fallout, you should consider doing WandaVision (I didn't see it in your Playlists) and then Agatha all Along. Along with The Last of Us, these 4 long form miniseries are the top tier teleplays of the last few years.
EVERY Fallout game fan knew that Vault 4 was doing horrible things, because that's what we've come to expect. I (a Fallout fan since the first game) was shocked when Vault 4 ended up being the most chill, nice vault (after a takeover that eliminated the original vault overseer and sadistic scientists). Vault 4 is the only one I'd want to be in (post revolt, obviously).
If you're going to say that something "statistically" should have happened then you had betting go to school and learn statistics. There's more places he could have shot and missed than there is places in space that they physically occupied. Therefore "statistically" he was more likely to miss since he wasn't aiming.
@ it’s not a thought about me thinking one way of the other, but commentary. If you know the character you’ll know that he is a father, and despite all the things we saw him do throughout the series, he as a father would not go as far as eating someone’s daughter, cuz he himself has one. At least that’s how I view the character, the first time I saw that scene, the thought of him eating that girl never crossed my mind. How did you interpreted the whole thing?
@ The reason people think he ate the girl is because they already established that he eats people sometimes. That's why the scene works and the majority of the audience thinks what Erik Estrada's character thinks. He then murders the girl's brother in front of her and her father after already killing her other brother. You have absolutely no idea if he would go so far as to eat someone's daughter. Estrada's character clearly knows him and he thinks he's capable of it. Very strange and narrow definition of what makes someone a monster you've got there.
@@davebcf1231 like I said, I’m not thinking one way or the other, and not defining anything either so don’t assume things if you don’t get the point of what I said. In movies and shows there’s something called “show don’t tell”, if he’s capable of doing what you said, why he didn’t ate the kid then? Yes, it’s established he has the cannibal perk, but I wouldn’t assume he would eat a kid just because of it. And yes, he did shoot the other son, but it was in self defense and as our hostess later pointed out, he showed remorse, which also tells me he wouldn’t eat someone’s daughter. If you think he could do that and not being able to draw a line somewhere, well that says a lot about you, enjoy your day
@ Your comment makes no sense whatsoever. Just because someone is capable of doing something that doesn't mean they always do that thing. By your logic why doesn't he shoot everyone he comes across? We know he's capable of it. We've seen him do it. You keep saying you're not thinking one way or the other while arguing one way, which is also nonsensical. You claimed he's not a monster because he's a father. I pointed out the two aren't mutually exclusive. What part of that is confusing to you?
Something that is strongly hinted at and you'd only catch if you're REALLY into the Fallout lore is what Thaddeus was injected with. Let's just say that if the theories are right, he's gonna be feeling super before long.
Your observation that the shaky cam illustrates the Ghoul's remorse was something I had not picked up on in my first watch - you make incredible observations that heighten my enjoyment of shows that I already love!
I noticed it from how he didn’t look normally straight faced or smug like he usually would, his eyes and mouth told a lot about how he felt
@@rubenlopez3364 Lucy and the reminder of his own past self from the video clearly shaken him up. Makes me all the more stoked for the team-up in season 2, because those two characters obviously could learn a lot from each other.
The uniforms at the beginning are NCR Rangers uniform (from Fallout New Vegas, basically NCR special forces) the violin music is from Fallout 4 minutemen radio and after about 10 minutes of that it drives you crazy. This is why all the people trying to stop the transmission is hilarious to Fallout Veterans.
i actually liked the minuteman radio....
Seriously, keeping the Minutemen radio tuned in just to hear about missions, but hearing these few songs over and over and over made me turn off that radio station. It's so funny that they chose to use that music to trigger the Fallout 4 players, and it worked. I'd probably be one of those people caught in a trap, just trying to get to the guy and make him stop playing that music. :D
The chicken forker being legit was the biggest plot twist of the season for me
This episode had such a meta moment... At the radio station, you had DJ Carl (Fred Armisen) and Thaddeus (Johnny Pemberton) reflecting on how people don't like classical music, especially original presses. The music is from the game, the same music that people complained to the developers. This discussion is being portrayed by actors who, in previous roles, have played "musicians" who have performed poorly (for comedic effect in both instances) and were criticized in their shows! (As you mentioned, Pemberton as Bo in Superstore, and Armisen in Portlandia.) The conversation could very well have just been the actors talking before the "action" took place!! Very fun!
My favorite thing about this episode is that we find out the elixir salesman wasn’t 100% full of shit.
In episode one he calls after Lucy and the scientist promising elixirs that heal feet or even grow completely new feet.
Seems like if they had listened to him the whole story could have turns out much differently.
It wasn't what he was full of, but what he was filling chickens with.
Episode 2. We aren't even introduced to his character in episode 1.
I don't think his healing elixers would have worked on Wilzig's foot at that time. The salesman hadn't yet satisfied his "scientific curiousity". 😉
The opening scene is a DEEP CUT "easter egg".
The older fella is played by Erik Estrada. He was one of the leads in a wildly popular show from the late 70s and early 80s, called "CHIPS". He played a CHP (California Highway Patrol) Motorcycle Cop.
Now, in THIS show, he's wearing an "NCR Ranger" uniform. And in the Fallout world, NCR Rangers are the closest thing there is to CHP. Hell, even the color-scheme of the uniforms match. It's brilliant.
Ponch!
@@Karmagirl29 I grew up watching re-runs of "CHIPS", Dukes of Hazzard, and the "Smokey & the Bandit" movies. The grin on my face when I saw Erik extended off the sides of my face, I looked like a cartoon!
I love the setup, showing us the apparently idyllic vault 33 has a dark secret, while introducing us to 4, which starts off looking pretty sinister but turns out to be very idealistic.
Only because they brutally murdered their sinister element before they became the nicest of folks 😅
@@dawidscheffler7152 Not really what happened. Stopping people from performing lethal, or catastrophically harmful, experiments on people isn't murder.
16:06 in the games... getting non-VATS hits in the game can be really difficult. The system V.A.T.S. is a function of the PIPboy on vault dwellers wrists, so a scribe in the Brotherhood of Steel like Thaddeus wouldn't have the assisted targeting system.
i was originally iffy in the fallout series when it was announced but i feel like the creator really got fallout. loved this show so much. cant wait til season 2
Not sure if someone mentioned it, but the whole bit about people not being fans of the classical music is a real world reference to some of the fans of the game who complained on online forums about one of the in game radio stations that played classical music.
Yup. The series embodies how they felt about them critiques XD
If I remember correctly, it was violin music (and would explain the fiddle music in this episode). And it WAS repetitive.
0:45 nice addition of the Dr. Who joke 😅.
My love for this series is that the people who shot it, clearly, has a love for the legacy of the lore and content of the games. They don't try to recreate the original. They instead embrace the campy dystopian world and just add another chapter that feels familiar to anyone who's played the games and welcomes others who have not.
I must say that seeing you comment on the composition of the shots in Fallout (and in other things you've reacted to) is so interesting to me - I'm not a film student, so my only real reaction is "Did I enjoy this thing or not?", seeing someone actually able to comment on the more technical aspects really helps me to understand the techniques used in a way I didn't before.
It's fun how they get you with the double cliffhanger, of a sort.
You are too young to know him. He's Erik Estrada. He played Officer Frank Poncherello (Ponch), on the TV show "CHiPs". Which meant "California Highway Patrol". Ran for 6 seasons, '77 to '83.
I wonder how many people didn't get this. His voice, chin, and eyes are a dead giveaway
@@wearenotamused6455 Almost all of the young'uns born in the last 45yrs. Unforgivable for us old folks.
Him being Adam.
Never watched chips but new who he was somehow and always remembered him from his small cameo in Van wilder
Part of the oldie brigade here, hahaha.
I would just like to say that I love how your reaction to the crossbow bolt is exactly the same as Lucy's.
Your insights on mood, music, how the shots are made are very interesting.
This episode has some incredible hammer lines that don't fully hit home until next episode. I have loved your reaction so far, I can't wait to watch the finale with you!
The military outfit you see at the beginning of the episode, is actually an outfit form the NCR aka shady sands.
And the things those dudes are sifting for are lead slugs (bullet remnants), not caps. (Did she pick up on that and i missed it? If so, sorry.) The occupation is known as "Lead Farmer".
"Are you my mummy?" has perfect relevance! Fallout New Vegas "Dead Money" DLC .... ;) (Take the "Wild Wasteland" trait, trust me, lol)
And the outfit is that of an NCR Elite Ranger
17:00 The Brotherhood of Steel, besides being the self-ordained preserver of knowledge is also obsessed with Purity. You can be whichever kind of human you want (man, woman, black, white, trans) and still be accepted, but the second you become un-human... you're the enemy.
Well, at least they aren't Frank Horrigan.
I thought that was The Enclave's job? Or did good ol' Bethesda change things up (again) for the show?
@@Hare_deLune Enclave only consider themselves as pure 100% human. They considered everyone else as contaminated, even the normal humans. They're going for a total cleansing of the surface.
@ Google it.
@@Hare_deLuneagree that was a more enclave trait. they consider anyone exposed to radiation to be a mutant
When the Chicken Diddler told us that Thadeus wouldn't have a problem with the radiation he'd have to pass through "now", it was a hint that he was a ghoul because ghouls are immune to radiation.
While Chicken Diddler has a kind of music to it, i still prefer the more vulgar Chicken F**ker. Probably because it reminds of an old Smothers Brothers comedy song...
Dick: "My old man's a Cotton-Pickin' Finger-Lickin' Chicken Plucker, what do you think about that?"
Tom: "You better not make a mistake."
I really enjoy your reactions Jacqui. I love watching people who know a lot about filmmaking. I cant wait for the final episode.
I agree! Her background in film makes her comments on various aspects of the show interesting, coming from a trained viewpoint . . .
Non-spoiler, but based on gameplay, I don’t think Thad is a ghoul. The inhaler he used is used for a lot of different meds. (We saw a raider use an inhaler in ep 1, likely using jet or another combat-enhancing med)
Thad may have taken the healing mutation, as seen in fallout 76. It constantly heals you at a moderate rate. Chicken-lover might have mixed in something to resist radiation… the healing mutation does not address radiation, just injuries. I’m looking forward to maybe finding out more about Thad’s condition, and if it keeps accurate to the games. The show invented the inhaler that keeps ghouls from going feral.. in the games, going feral has unclear causes… human/mutant/feral/dead seems to rely on total radiation exposure, speed and strength of exposure, and time.
The mechanics for playable ghouls in 76 hint that drugs keep them from going feral. You take drugs , any kind, to reduce your feral meter. Which would explain why pretty much every ghoul you meet is on drugs.
@ ahhh, I stepped out of 76 a bit before playable ghouls came in.
@OzeroCa they still aren't in the main game (they are supposed to go up in March) only on the test servers for now.
The vaults were never meant to save anybody.
I think someone owes the residents of Vault 4 an apology...
Also, you may have had a misread on Vault 32. It's not a death sentence, remember the Vault functioned for two centuries without incident until ~something~ happened in the last two years...
She thinks she can't wait to watch episode 8? We can't wait for the reaction! Jacqui is about to have some costco-sized fun with the season finale!
[edit: Oh, a fan of camerawork and visual subtext? Then just know that in Episode 8, we're gonna back up a fleet of trucks brimming with emotionally powerful camerawork and visual subtext!]
I like your comments on the camera shots and what emotions they are meant to portray. Dunno much about cinematography myself so I find this info really interesting. You definitely are one of my favorite Fallout reactors (😅 get it, reactor?)
17:43 YES! that's the essence of fallout. it's a treasure trove of dark humor. the games ha e been like this since the first one. they cranked the humor way up for fallout 2 then when Bethesda continued it they seemed to kind of straddle the line more between serious story and humor.
That scene at the beginning where the lead farmer calls for his daughter and the ghoul is just slowly and ominously chewing... chills... "oh did you think?"
I love how you mirrored Lucy's expression when the crossbow bolt hit Thadeus.
I'm pretty sure that's just Fred Armisen in his free time 😂
Mi Scusi!
Love that the path they are all taking makes the idea of who or what is good, bad or the right thing you should do, is never what you think it is from one moment to another.
So I agree that Fred Armisen is a win. But lets give some love to Chris Parnell - the Overseer of Vault 4. I have yet to see (or hear - Archer, Wordgirl) him in anything I didn't like him in, and he's got the comic chops to hit just the right tone of weird and suburban dad that's needed for the part.
Surreal Suburban Dad is a perfect descriptor for his natural style.
I said in a separate comment, but did you notice that Fred Armisen (co-creator of Portlandia) was playing a character that would have been right at home on Portlandia? 😅
@inspectre27 - oh, absolutely. The hipster comment about vinyl, the refusal to play any other music. And the way it's played off as just this guy living in a radio station surrounded by lethal traps, but Armisen plays it like yeah, just another day. Completely oblivious to how weird it seems to outside observers - it fits in the Wasteland, it would fit in Portlandia.
Appreciate "The Empty Child" reference 😁
Yes we recognise a fellow whovian 🎉
You could tell The Ghoul didn't want to do that to the boy, but he had to. Its survival. He saw something in the boy's reaction about his brother, so the Ghoul pressed him, is he really walking out of here. The boy being not too wise giving his age, had to go for the weapon, leaving The Ghoul no choice. Walton did a good job is trying to convey his conflicted emotions of the character when he walked away, even though it would be hard to do with his makeup.
Walton (a.k.a. Boyd Crowder) also channeled his inner Marshall Givens (Timothy Olyphant): Provoking Tommy until "he pulled first", making the shooting Justified.
If his father really was a veteran ranger i could see him coming back in a major way.
I love the Vault 4 twist. They could work on being a little less suspicious-seeming, though.
And now you know the secret of Vault 4. The residents are really just super nice.
1:00 I thought this too, I think that was intended. The Ghoul survives every way he can.
Quick healing is a video game thing, and healing broken limbs is a Fallout thing. Another game reference.
A chem that turns you into a ghoul I think is new, I don't remember any of the games having that.
This episode is a Kroll Show reunion. Thaddeus, Snake Doc (Jon Daly), and Armisen were on it.
First one had the F.E.V (Force Evolutionary Virus) which turned people into mutants.
In Fallout 1 it is hinted, that low level FEV exposure combined with a lot of radiation might turn you into a ghoul. A LOT of FEV (they literally "dip" prisoners in huge vats of full of FEV suspension to make their Super Mutant Army) will turn you into a super mutant. The verdict is still pending on Thaddeus. My money is on super mutant, mostly because we've only been hinted at a single one in the show yet (on a stretcher cart in the Enclave base in Ep. 2, all you see is a huge body under a shroud and a green hand protruding from under it)
@@arminwolff1748 I don't remember this detail, but I haven't played in a long time. I was surprised at the lack of super mutants in the show though so maybe that's what it was, but also FEV is a strange thing for that guy to have, but maybe it's a hint to his background or something.
@@firstelderd Well, the show does take place in California, and both the WestTek research facility (aka the Glow), where it was developed, and the Mariposa military base, where it was mass-produced in order to build the super mutant army, are located. And though both are destroyed, it's not unlikely that there may be some remaining stock to be recovered. Also, as the destruction of the production facility and their command center was in 2161 (135 years ago), so it makes perfect sense that the number of super mutants has dwindled in 2296
It's mentioned in fallout 4. Hancock became a ghoul by taking a mysterious medicine.
Jacqui doing a doctor who reference. Next thing we know she will be saying "hey who turned out the lights"
I love how they get you with the fake cliffhanger straight into the actual cliffhanger ending
The opening scene of the ghoul sitting in the kitchen was almost entirely taken from the first scene with Lee Van Cleef, at the start of, "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly." 😊
I cannot wait to see how you enjoy the finale. It's SO GOOD. Have fun.
I have no cinematic education; so it's fun to discover that the shot and music are there to induce feelings. Thanks.
That's why I follow this channel.
She is so good at pointing out details that I would never notice.
I don't think Thadius is going to be a Ghoul, he's going to be something much worse.
I think you might enjoy the Netflix Series, Fall of the House Usher. and Amazon's anthology series Secret Level.
Can never go wrong with a Flanagan reaction
17:33 the day I watched this show for myself, I had recently binged a whole lot of reactions for the movie "Eurotrip", so seeing Fred Armisen in here really threw me for a loop!
17:37 "So messed up and so funny" That's Fallout in a nutshell!
Considering you've most likely seen the reveals of the next episode by now:
8:36 that line lands very differently.
That fiddle music for the ending credits thou :)
I love that they're setting up a redemption arc for the Ghoul but they aren't rushing it. Too many shows and movies, knowing a villain is going to be a fan favorite character, are in too big of a hurry to rehabilitate them into someone the fans can root for. The very first time the hero shows good will to the villain, he magically becomes a good guy from then on. But the Ghoul, as we see at the start of this episode, despite having some redeeming qualities is still very much a bad guy, and will likely still be a source of conflict for Lucy well into season 2.
3:53 It was a huge bomb.
5:10 This is kinda the context clue, since it is more show don't tell. But yes, basically the majority of vaults in Fallout are actually social experiments. That's why, in the games, you usually only find fallen vaults. You can then explore them and try to puzzle together the pieces (visual storytelling, notes, hacked terminals, enemy types, etc) to figure out what happened in there.
8:42 Awwwhaha.
11:44 Remember in episode 2 when Lucy was leaving Filly with Wilzig and he was there, trying to sell them a potion that could grow an entire new foot? :D
14:03 He doesn't even need the dog anymore, since his target is now Moldaver, not the head.
14:49 *her
The Trap got you got though. :)
"That's so fucked up and funny." That's Fallout. Where else would you find a STOS shuttle craft with red shirt, crashed in a the desert?
As the penultimate episode, this one is solid. Some hilarious moments, some dark and foreboding. And none of it can still prepare you for the finale, which goes completely bonkers.
If you look into the lore, most of the vaults were doing twisted experiments.
Cockroaches and Hipsters, the two things that are guaranteed to survive nuclear war.
Don't forget Karens.
Three separate f-bombs that weren't defused... That's an appropriate level of surprise for this episode. Even has that one line I'm intentionally leaving vague that hits particularly different on rewatch.
this whole espisode is about expectations being subverted.... its also my favorite episode
The title cards harken back to the silent film era when you literally had to be told what something was off screen or rely on the piano player to set the tone. Fred Armisen- “Critics” line was epic ❤
The dog being put into the Nuka Cola cooler is a reference to Fallout 4, where you happen to find a dog exactly there.
In a cooler? If you're referencing Dog Meat in FO4, he's outside of the Red Rocket station just outside of Sanctuary, not in a cooler. But yes, same general location (a gas station).
6:00 In Thaddeus's defence, he has a mission of supposed vital importance to get the head back to the Brotherhood. But his foot has been severely smooshed, the 404 (the dog) is not only slowing him down but also drawing unwanted attention by constantly yanking at the bag (with the head), and that's before 404 tried nibbling on Thaddeus's aforementioned smooshed foot. 😂😂
and also nipped at his foot!
Something i noticed about Fred Armisen that i've never seen anyone else mention: Fred was co-creator of the show Portlandia, and on Fallout he plays a character that could easily have been on Portlandia. 😅
14:57 Wow you're the 1st reaction to Fallout video that knew who that was. Most people don't recognize him when he's not in his blue makeup. He's my favorite member of the Blue Man Group
Did that scene with Estrada give anybody else a flashback to Lee Van Cleef's introductory scene in 'The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly'?
Not sure if you caught it, but the scientists in the Vault 4 log were the same happy couple from the commercial at the beginning of the previous episode.
"What was the experiment in 33?"
Eyes go W-I-D-E open.
Penny in the air...
"Beautiful shot. Very 'Searchers.'" Jacqui, I cannot possibly express how much I love the fact that you are familiar with what is, in my personal estimation, the greatest Western ever made.
It's an iconic shot in the true sense of that overused word. Such a shame that hardly anyone recognises it any more.
A note for next episode, remember to breathe.
I loved the Dr Who reference, "are you my mummy?".
I don't think Thadeus is a ghoul, that's not how it works ...I think he was given a form of FEV (Forced Evolutionary Virus) which may turn him into a super mutant.
Either FEV, or one of the serums from FO76 that induce a mutation.
He's a ghoul - he just didn't get there the classical route.
Its a good misdirection, because none of the characters know about FEV. Here's my reasoning: the guy claimed to be a scientist, he immediately recognized the fusion core, and he didn't mix the stuff he put in the inhaler...it was already in a bottle in his case. The biggest ones though are the most simple--ghouls aren't made by taking anything, and most importantly, they don't regenerate. Super mutants do. If ghouls regenerated, there wouldn't have been a need to sew on Lucy's finger, and a single pistol shot wouldn't kill a feral at the Super Duper Mart. Plus Thaddeus will make a hilarious super mutant!
To be fair there have been those exposed to FEV who turned into ghouls like Harold and Tallus from Vault 13 so its not impossible. But yes, he's most likely turning into a Super Mutant.
To be fair we find out on 4 that there are drugs that can make people a ghoul.
Also - never apologize for laughter. Laughter is the appropriate response!
Every line in episode 8 is important. You are so observant that this is going to be awesomeness!
"Most people don't know the difference between the noxious and the benign, or the potion I was looking for on the shelf before you threatened me and the potion I gave you from my bag."
Wait I might be wrong but don’t we find the dog in fallout four in a gas station like that? Were he left him?
His name is Dog meat.
Nice Dr Who callback!
They're not hunting for caps, they're lead farming. Looking for fired projectiles, bullets.
No, it's caps - the dead brother is the one who provided the caps to pay for the Drs safe transport.
Nice Dr. Who eeference. CHIPS 'California Highway Patrol' is on hard times in this episode.
The cliffhanger....Both love and hate it. lol.
That dad in the beginning was Eric Estrada from CHiPS1 He was huge in the 70s.
Not the popcorn and Nuka Cola!
I figured that you would appreciate the subverted expectations set up in Vault 4. Enjoy the finale.
Excellent performance and casting of Jerry from Rick and Morty as the one eyed overseer
Everyone: oh no, they're going to leave it on a cliff hanger!
Also Everyone: oh wait, maybe not....
Also, also Everyone: THAT'S SO MUCH WORSE!!!!
When you've done with Fallout, you should consider doing WandaVision (I didn't see it in your Playlists) and then Agatha all Along. Along with The Last of Us, these 4 long form miniseries are the top tier teleplays of the last few years.
Wouldn't a long form miniseries just be a series?
Great react 🎉🎉
Love your reaction to thaddeus getting shot is the same as Lucy's.
EVERY Fallout game fan knew that Vault 4 was doing horrible things, because that's what we've come to expect. I (a Fallout fan since the first game) was shocked when Vault 4 ended up being the most chill, nice vault (after a takeover that eliminated the original vault overseer and sadistic scientists). Vault 4 is the only one I'd want to be in (post revolt, obviously).
This episode unironically makes me want to see Eric Estrada do more acting.
If you're going to say that something "statistically" should have happened then you had betting go to school and learn statistics. There's more places he could have shot and missed than there is places in space that they physically occupied. Therefore "statistically" he was more likely to miss since he wasn't aiming.
8:38 - as they say, "put a pin in that..."
Goodbye, Goosey!
The start is very reminiscent of the start of the good the bad and the ugly.
Hehehehehh, Dr Who reference
How did I miss the heads kissing in the original show.
I see you have watched Band of Brothers, you should try The Pacific
15:32 so true
Mi scusi, but who is Fred Armisen? 😛
What part exactly made you assume that the residents of vault four were bad? Judging books by their covers again are we?
I'd like to point out that that "innocent man" was hunting her with a harpoon gun
He was hunting *something* with a harpoon gun. For all he knew, an experiment (gulper) could've gotten loose.
Hunting an intruder or an experiment in a place she was specifically told multiple times not to go to
no spoiler but he isn't a ghoul. rumour are leaning more towards super mutant.
Why people keep thinking he ate the girl on the opening of this episode? 😂 he’s not a monster, he’s a father
Not sure why you'd think those two things are mutually exclusive.
@ it’s not a thought about me thinking one way of the other, but commentary. If you know the character you’ll know that he is a father, and despite all the things we saw him do throughout the series, he as a father would not go as far as eating someone’s daughter, cuz he himself has one. At least that’s how I view the character, the first time I saw that scene, the thought of him eating that girl never crossed my mind. How did you interpreted the whole thing?
@ The reason people think he ate the girl is because they already established that he eats people sometimes. That's why the scene works and the majority of the audience thinks what Erik Estrada's character thinks. He then murders the girl's brother in front of her and her father after already killing her other brother. You have absolutely no idea if he would go so far as to eat someone's daughter. Estrada's character clearly knows him and he thinks he's capable of it. Very strange and narrow definition of what makes someone a monster you've got there.
@@davebcf1231 like I said, I’m not thinking one way or the other, and not defining anything either so don’t assume things if you don’t get the point of what I said. In movies and shows there’s something called “show don’t tell”, if he’s capable of doing what you said, why he didn’t ate the kid then? Yes, it’s established he has the cannibal perk, but I wouldn’t assume he would eat a kid just because of it. And yes, he did shoot the other son, but it was in self defense and as our hostess later pointed out, he showed remorse, which also tells me he wouldn’t eat someone’s daughter. If you think he could do that and not being able to draw a line somewhere, well that says a lot about you, enjoy your day
@ Your comment makes no sense whatsoever. Just because someone is capable of doing something that doesn't mean they always do that thing. By your logic why doesn't he shoot everyone he comes across? We know he's capable of it. We've seen him do it. You keep saying you're not thinking one way or the other while arguing one way, which is also nonsensical. You claimed he's not a monster because he's a father. I pointed out the two aren't mutually exclusive. What part of that is confusing to you?
I'd like to point out that he shot the kid in the left shoulder. So maybe not dead?
Something that is strongly hinted at and you'd only catch if you're REALLY into the Fallout lore is what Thaddeus was injected with. Let's just say that if the theories are right, he's gonna be feeling super before long.
And I think we did see the hand of one in episode 2. Perhaps an earlier patient.
Are they still around?
I thought they got exterminated at some point.