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- Some excerpts from our Panantukan Seminar in Brussels on the 11th of May 2014.
Source: Seminar in Brussels, Belgium. May 2014.
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Category: SEMINARS
Tags: Panantukan
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As a Guro Inosanto and Guro Faye student, I give you kudos for training and teaching FMA. You will have some people who will nay say you but just keep training. After 20 years in law enforcement and armed security, I've found that consistently training has saved my life more than any defense tactics course the department put me through. Being a practicing martial artist regardless of style is an asset when you have some drug fiend trying to take your head off or a diabetic who's blacked out and combative. It's in those moments where I've used FMA such as dumog to subdue an assailant because striking would put me on the news or put me in front of the judge in a wrong way. Life long training is more important than rank or style. Keep at it.
I have watch this video for years, it's amazing.
Thanks a lot, I appreciate!
I started my martial arts training way back when I was growing up in Southeast Asia. I started in Muay Thai, then did boxing/kickboxing when I moved to California. I was also introduced to FMA here and found that I love it. As I got older, I decided to stick with FMA and found that my experience in Muay Thai (muay Mat style) and boxing/kickboxing enhanced my FMA empty hand. I loved all your videos as they teach; I called it "The Flow of destruction" very well. Thanks for sharing your lessons.
Thank you for your comment, Morgan, I appreciate it. That is such an old video. ;-) There's been a lot of evolution in my program for Dirty Boxing, since then(which is not really shown in videos, actually). Again, thanks.
I know as I am a subscriber to your channel, but this video was the first time I saw your work, and I really liked it. The flow are impeccable. Great stuff! Are you working out of Brussel? If so, I would love to visit your gym someday as I have family in Brussel @@Manonuda
@@morganlim4552 Thanks. Yeah, I'm based in Brussels, and I got people visiting for training, s you are welcome to come by aw well. Let me know. It woudlbe best to send an email for this. Hope to meet you soon.
Not being unfamiliar with different M.A. styles and teaching self-defence myself I have to say that I enjoyed this video! Saw some nice moves whom I will implement and adapt to my own style! Nice going Goru!
Bert Linschoten Thanks Bert! You're welcome to integrate whatever you've seen here into your own style.
Good representation of of our Filipino art I thank you kindly Guro.
+Marlon Patawaran Thanks, I appreciate!
exellent! envokes memorys of martial art grandmasters I have met in SE Asia.This gentleman really understands this art.
Thanks Panalee! I appreciate it!
Great video and fantastic technique! I have done very little training with weapons, but the empty hand stuff I LOVE, what I can get away with I've used in the ring under kickboxing and thai rules. "Every part of the body is a target, every part of the body is a weapon". Many mixed martial artists could raise their skill from just understanding this!
Mixed Martial Help Thanks!
Great fluidity, awesome bolo punch. You are a composite of numerous styles, brother.
+Gerald L. Thank you!
this is bloody awesome techniques
Thanks, Ozzy, I appreciate!
Merci Gian ! Excellent seminaire, j'en apprends toujours ! Ca fait toujours plaisir de revoir les autres tetes bien familieres :-) Mon coucou a vous tous depuis Montreal ;-) A+
Oui, merci Alan! j'espère que tout va bien pour toi!
This is really nice, you move really well: smooth and sharp, fluid and powerful! I like the follow ups that also allow you to pick up the next line of attack, and the switches from high line to low line. Great principles to work with
Kali Sikaran Bath Thanks a lot for the comment, I appreciate! Especially coming from the Kali Sikaran family. ;-) Cheers!
Bom professor, muito profissional
Super vidéo Gianfranco,
Au plaisir de te revoir
Ludo
Merci, Ludo! A bientôt, j'espère!
Awesome hands, arms , elbows and knees technique! Thanks for sharing!
You're welcome! Stay tuned! ;-)
beautiful moves!
FROST BERT Thanks, Bert!
impressive stuff .
proud to see this art
!!!wow!!!it looks very good !!! I like it as much as Silat!
Salute! Awesome!
That teacher is awesome. He is very creative, fast and really tough
Thanks Bram, I appreciate!
Ottimo lavoro, fluido e cattivissimo :)
Grazie!
i love panantukan.
best aplications ever! congrats man
Thanks!
Very impressed. Wish I could learn some Panantukan in the states.
There are many Panantukan teachers in the States. Anyway, thanks!
i have some moves of pangamot and it really works on actual fight on the street.. same as panatukan the concept of pangamot was base on arnis/kali.. im teaching my childrens about my knowledge on street fighting to defend themselves.. my pangamot is diffrent its an actual combat mix with grappling headlock chocking and its very brutal.. i am very thankful because ive learn this pangamot on my father who was a soldier assigned in jolo solo early 70s..
who's doing these lazy push-ups at 0:22?
VERY GOOD
Make some videos about headbutt in kali
Mabuhay!
very nice
Thanks!
great techniques!!!
Nicophil Thanks!
Do you know a good place where I can Learn kali in Brussels?
You can contact me via email: info@manonuda.com
its movement kinda similar like sundanense silat. awesome and very attractive..
Zain Iqbal Thanks, Zain!
Hi. Just to clarify. Panuntukan really has silat roots as the Philippines was Islamic before colonial period. Trading with nearby countries like Japan and China. The art evolved as well. Awesome videos here. My respects.
Cool video! Very similar to kung fu in some parts
How does the knee-pushing takedown work? It looks interesting, is it a joint lock or just leverage?
Yes it's leverage notice his foot is slightly directly behind his partners, then you basically bend at knee and forward. Try it make sure your partner falls back or they can hurt their leg
Gefällt mir sehr gut ...üben wir sehr ähnlich im Kalisikaran mit Jeff Espinous.
Thanks, Hardy!
i hope someone bring this panatukan to cyprus
I'd be glad to come over and bring it to that wonderful place! Cheers! ;-)
Panantukan came out since the pinoy boxing era in the 1898. Which was influenced by western boxing(was brought to the philippines), era because most fighters were kali practitioners. Guys like Pancho Villa, Speedy Dadao, Cereno Garcia who patented the bolo punch and many others came onto the scene until it stop during the 1940's. As they years grew, panantukan was nonexistent until Dan Inosanto seek/track down(thanks to Ed Parker advice) other pinoys that had kept the Philippino arts alive. As the times he befriended guro lucay lucay sr and his son, and later on Al Lacoste that was also teaching the art. These guys learn from Dan and learned from them arcourse they were also kali silat practitioners, later on, muay thai and pananjakman and dumog was also added. And became essential to the JKD concept taught by Dan himself to combine similarities and principles. If wasn't for these guys, panantukan will never hit the mainstream.
Brett Jackson Thanks a lot for the input and the history, Brett! I appreciate that you took your time to write this here, really. I wonder, if Panantukan wouldn't have the same visibility it has today because of people like Dan Inosanto, as you mentioned, would it be still developed further or it would have just died, or be restricted to a few in the pPhilippines. The greet thing about this art is that it can easily integrate many other elements from other fighting styles. One of my favorites!
That is one thing that I like about panantukan that its a open minded concept. As well as in art, you can add and tailor it to your interest. Just like Jkd! Not only that, both arts is inspired by weapons. From a open-minded approach, every art added to jkd is inspired by weapons, muay thai (mother art Muay Boran) savate, including boxing, Wing Chun(animals&nature). Even in Bruce's principles, he quoted" let the weapon teach the hand".....so the similarities are strong. Including pentjak silat(indonesia-Malaysia-Borneo)Japanese fighting arts
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WE LOVE YOUR WORK AND HOPE TO WELCOME YOU SOON
I AM JUST A BEGINNER WITH JUST OVER 40 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND I KNOW A GOOD THING WHEN I SEE IT-ONE LOOK AT YOU, THE WAY YOU MOVE, YOUR DISTANCE, TIMING, FOCUS TELLS ME YOU ARE RARE KIND- SOME WHO HAS GOT IT- UNDERSTANDS IT- CAN TEACH IT ANDWILL HONOUR/RESPECT AND PROMOTE IT .
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CHARLEY
teach panantukan here in the philippines there is no FMA gymn here filipinos dont know anything about panantukan and silat we know TKD kickboxing muaythai but panantukan i dont know where to find a gymn that teach panantukan
dmitri cervantes Hi Dimitri, in which area of the Philippines do you live?
in Manila the sad thing is there is no gymn here that teaches panantukan we have take wondo here karate gymn muay thai etc. etc. but panantukan i dont know where to find it i was surprise that our own art is learn and practice abroad but here try to ask someone about the art no one knows that it even exists, i only knew panantukan here in youtube that is the sad thing
+dmitri cervantes is there a doce pares school there? there are lot of kali teachers here in cebu
+dmitri cervantes There are guro here in Manila. You just have to look for them. Some are really old and still got the moves. i recently saw an old man exhibiting in Luneta.
dmitri cervantes go to cebu
So what happens if the other guy has a kerambit ????
Than you pull out yours! ;-)
besides the Art ... top Song for Panantukan , Where´s "Franky fu* four Fingers" ? ;-)
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Checked your Webpage - like your Panantukan Videos very much - especially how you show the "one/same move, different weapons" Principle...
Yeah, I often show the motion connection between weapons and empty hands.
I train.in kung fu san soo. Our styles are very similar awesome movement thanks for the video
Thanks!
Here is a tip watch it in half speed and you see each indervidual technique
and respect for the guro...
Thanks!
Check out a new video from our last seminar: th-cam.com/video/wPw6RFRcdLU/w-d-xo.html
+MANONUDA WOW OVER KILL
the art of dirty boxing hahaha very nice
That's the common "underground" name of the art! ;-)
Panantukan is an awesome art
I have yet to see this materialize in MMA sanctioned fights.
JPLMONEY23 I have yet to see a Football player putting the ball in a basket during a game! Some things are made for different things. MMA is a sport, this stuff is not for that, for many reasons, and I won't develop on the subject any further here and now, even thought I could, and extensively!
+JPLMONEY23 While I hate coming late to the game so to speak. I will say this. MMA as Manonuda said is a sport. Meant to be used in the "Ring" with a ref. Where as Panantukan is a CQC fighting system also known as "DIRTY boxing" since there is no fixed set of rules. Just like there are no rules on the street. In MMA you can't knee a dude in the nuts, or pick up a weapon, grab him by the ears and pound his head into the asphalt. While I respect MMA and the people who train in it. I would prefer to learn something like this or Krav Maga. Something that lets me live up to the ONE rule my father taught me about fighting. "Win at all cost."
+JPLMONEY23 And you wont. The movements are beautiful and very florid, but unfortunately they will not apply on the street the same way because its not staged. Many multi-combination techniques fall apart once your opponent resists or blocks or draws back. In order for all those movements to work in succession youd need an attacker that doesn't react and will allow you to follow through and do everything scripted. Can these movements work? Definitely but not to the degree you see here.
+Garoosh thats true thats why if you look closely the vid you can see the guy always hitting the attacker on the nuts XD
I liked how you used your body as a check to knock him off his balance and keeping you in the pocket liked how you sweep his supporting leg to knock him down. I'll try it out on my sparring buddy full strength and speed and see what happens. other than that I didn't like how your guard was consistently dropped though. I do however respect the Filipino entrapment over wing chun defanging the snake in an interesting concept
Things like dropping the guard can happen when you are inbetween talking to a group and demonstrating whe to execute. When your whole attention is on the opponent and on the fight, it's different. ;-) But anyway…
+MANONUDA True. Martial Arts is very complex by its self without having a dozen eyes on you teaching a class. on occasion I've dropped gaurd my own self. I'm excited to try out what I saw. Great video by the way!
Thanks!
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sad to say here in philippines. few remains practicing our martial arts. our government sucks
I totally agree with you. In my province there's not a single stench of FMA.
This dude could be an Assassin if he wanted xD
Can someone please explain why the attackers suddenly freeze allowing the instructor to apply all manner of techniques to their frozen, capitulated bodies? This is absolute nonsense. Can these be applied to a live, responding, reacting, resisting attacker? Of course not, this is ego fapping...
Thank you for your comment, Gabriel! Your observation is pretty fair, but only on a certain degree. I too (the instructor in the video), find it is nonsense when I see videos in which the attacker "freezes" and allows any kind of techniques on him, and my students can surely confirm how much I advocate training in the most possible realistic way, while others "exclusively" train with that "freezing" mode. What one should understand is that there are different degrees of training, and that goes from breaking down the techniques, work them slowly but smoothy, than with real speed, and than with a real responsiveness from the attacker (which can be applied to any of this formats, actually).
For training, if you allow the attacker to react and resist, than it should be fair also to allow the defender not to stop the hits a few inches before the target or to control the strikes, leverage and the rest of it, on his opponent, right? Most of the martial art training is after all a "simulation" or reality, but you can (and should) get as close to it as possible, and we do that (not necessarily in this video, maybe). Therefore your comment is fair, but doesn't touch me more than that, really.
Also, I could point out that by the same logic, and to use your words, it is "absolute nonsense" for a boxer to strike into heavy bags and focus mitts! After all, a real opponent won't stand in front of hime harmlessly weaving left and right and just take his punches like a heavy bag do, or will not allow him to place all this clean and perfectly executed combination that he performs with the collaboration of the coach holding focus mitts, right? Man, I got many level of depth in my teaching and in my training, so once again, I accept your comment, but that doesn't touch me at all considering my realistic approach during training (again, it's my student who should confirm that or not, a video makes no justice). I just thought I would reply to this comment of yours anyway, just out of politeness.
With that said, I will leave you copy your comment and paste it all over the thousand of martial arts videos here on TH-cam, as you might as well do that. And because this can easily lead to an infinite provocative discussion, I can tell you that I am not going to reply to any further comments from you on this subject, and should you want to test your "reaction and resistance" against "my ego fapping" and against the same techniques as shown in this video, than you're very welcome, man! (How come that martial arts inevitably takes you to this challenge shit, all the time?).
Gabriel Storm Gabriel, I am glad you are smoothing out the corners, here. But understand that if somebody leaves a comment saying "this is absolute nonsense and ego fapping", it's hard not to take it as provocative and aggressive, I guess!
Anyway, since you take MMA and Combative Sports as a comparison with other martial arts (oh, and by the way I teach and train Boxe, Muay Thai, Grappling and MMA), let me just point out that not 100% of the training in "combative sports" are based on aliveness, with full resistance and reaction. For learning and training you do execute high-repetition drills and techniques back and forth with the full cooperation of your partner, right? You have that in Boxing, you have that in Muay Thai, you have that in Judo, you have that in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu!
This is a classic: the amateur see a given techniques, in which you isolate a counter against the "Cross", for example, and he goes: "Oh, yeah, but… What if the opponent follow up with a left Hook too?". That's the time where you need to take a long breath, while the veterans roll their eyes up, and explain that we're "isolating" one portion of a possible dynamic, to drill it up over and over. To that question, I often answer: "Yes, he can come with that too. But while you're executing your"cross counter", he can also go for a double leg takedown, or pull out a knife, or some friends can jump in, and on and on and on, right? How about me? I can also counter the rest of his action, and he can counter mine as well. And on and on and on…
You see, you are free to judge a video like this one, but if you do so, please make sure to understand the context, without extrapolating a portion of the training and judging it because it wouldn't work in real life. Again, by that logic, a Boxer should never hit a heavy bag, since a real opponent is not going to stand there an take all those beautiful, perfect combination, right? It's training.
At this point I should make a confession. I see a lot of videos, and I too think that it is absurd that the opponent feeds one attack, and the defender execute a lot of moves while the other just let him do his thing! I admit it, it is something that makes me laugh, and at the same time it irritates me as well. In our sessions, I always point out to my student that "there is another way" of training, a more realistic way, and in my MSDP program (Self-Défense), I show how the same technique works if executed in the "dojo" format and often doesn't work when you work in the "street" format, with just a little bit of intent (not even talking about energy or intensity or resistance, just intent). The thing is that you shouldn't only train "cooperatively", as you shouldn't only train with "aliveness". I believe you should do both, and that's what we do at MANONUDA, and I even have set up a training breakdown for each of the disciplines I teach, that I won't share here now, but in which one component is called "Live Training". That doesn't mean "Sparring", even though sparring is included in it, as you can have different levels of "aliveness". Everything is progressive, when it comes to teaching, otherwise you should go for "all" or "nothing", and you do not need a teacher assistance for that.
I could go on and on on the subject, but I don't even know if it's worth it to put it into words, because everything become easily too abstract, and in abstraction confusion may arise. I will hopefully show a lot of this concepts in videos, at some point, as things are planned.
I never watch my videos once they are posted, but I was sure that should be something that would indicate a "progressive" method of training techniques, and so I watch it and found it at "2:23". I invite you to watch how I show a technique against Jab & Cross and on the latter you execute an Outside Gunting, a scoop of the arm and a "push". Now: AFTER the push, you follow up with a combination to finish up. The technique that follows, show how I demonstrate if AFTER the push the opponent "react" adding another punch, and you have to pick it up from "where you are", and we do that with a Split Gunting on the arm. I don't think everybody is able to "see that", but that's the problem with having a video of a seminar up on TH-cam: the people watching it, they didn't attend the seminar itself, right? (Good thing I demonstrate it quietly slow for all the attenders to understand, otherwise in real speed one wouldn't recognise a single movement, and the idea behind it, but of course, we trained that in full speed).
Anyway, you pulled me in again. I promised I wouldn't develop any further on the subject, and here I am writing the longest reply ever! You got me! ;-)
Oh, and since you mention it, Kickboxing is not the only option for a real street fight, believe me (word of a Kickboxer).
Cheers!
Gabriel Storm watch guro alexander plaksin the video title is boxing vs panantukan or filipino boxing.. or this watch french documentary of kali escrima watch the last part of the vid.. it was awesome.
It's drills dude. From boxing to mma or martial arts, many different types of drills. If you ask or have a problem with drills well....
Filipino Martial Arts is more deadlier I guess.
such krav maga from israel :)
Imao this is panantukan dirty boxing from philippines.
I’d really love being able to train in this art