I love watching these old games. The pace is good, no interruptions with the constant review of plays. Also sweet seeing two legends dueling it out. Really awesome!
Its really amazing to think especially considering that they made the schedules according to how your team finished in your division. 1st & 4th would play the other 1st & 4th place teams. 2nd & 3rd would play the other 2nd & 3rd place teams. 5th place would play 5th place twice and all the teams of the division with 4 teams. Amazing to think they wouldn't have finished 1st in the same year and especially 2nd or 3rd the same year.
Hard to believe the only Dolphin highlight of any significance since Superbowl VIII Jan-1974 was the defeat of the undefeated Bears later on in the 1985 season. I loved the Dolphins as a first-second grader 71/72/73. From the class of 83 we would get Elway,s 2 Superbowl wins late 1990,s.
Probably the reason Denver and Miami met only twice during that time, is because back then scheduling was based on where a team finished in their division of their conference the previous year to determined whom they would play the next season. There where 3 divisions in each conference. Two of them in each conference had five teams in the divisions and AFC Central and NFC West had 4 teams in the division. If a team finished first in the division they would be matched up with the other 1st and 4th place finishers in the other divisions of their conference And the 1st place finishers would play teams 1 thru 4 in the 5 team division of opposite conference. (example: teams 1 thru 4 of NFC East vs. Teams 1 thru 4 from the AFC East). Match-ups of AFC vs. NFC were done on a rotational basis every 3 years. If a team finished 2nd in the division of their conference, they'd be matched up with the 2nd and 3rd place finishers in the conference. As well as playing teams 1 thru 4 in the opposite conference. If a team finished 4th in the division they'd be matched up with 1st and 4th place finishers in the division of the conference and teams 1 thru 4 in the opposite conference. If a team finished fifth in the five team division of the conference they'd play the other 5th place finisher in the division of the conference twice and would play the teams in a 4 team division of the conference. The 5th place finishers would also play the other 5th place finishers in the opposite conference. Keep in mind teams in the same division of their conference played each other twice. That format has since changed due to expansion, realignment and going from 3 divisions to 4 in each conference. Scheduling is now done on rotational basis. Meaning within the conference they rotate every 3 years. AFC vs. NFC they rotate every 4 years. With the exception of 2 games that is based on where your team finished in the division.
I remember watching this,when the one o'clock Steelers game was over they switched over to this and that's when Marino hit Nat Moore for the long touchdown.Exciting game
He is so overrated! A guy who got drafted at the bottom of the draft, choked 2 championship games at home, and got crushed in the only Superbowl he was in.
@@PerpetualArt The Marino turtle makes me nervous with that horrible technique and those leaden feet, was a fat slow pig even at 22yo, he is just a statistic because he threw 45 passes per game, that turtle is overrated.
It's too bad Elway didn't stay in Baltimore. Could have had Marino vs Elway twice a year, and when Kelly joined Buffalo, could have had 6 awesome match ups in the same division each year. In fact, the afc east would have had 5 of the 6 '83 qb draft picks, one on each team.
Roby was an awesome punter I don’t understand why he wasn’t more recognized for his talent . Who can punt 9-10 times and ball spiral like a pass and as long and high . Him and Ray Guy were very good at there job .
Odd! How the class of 1983 only won 2 Superbowls. Elway 97-98. Alas poor Marino. Much like Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly, Fran Tarkenton just could not win one. At least by himself. The N.F.L. really had nice uniforms then. Broncos and Dolphins rarely encountered each other during wild 70,s and 80,s.
And a big snowstorm the day and night before as mentioned by the intro... Amazing what can happen weather wise on the front range of the Rocky mountains even as early in late August and early September... This being late September is still something else. In fact the biggest snowstorms in Denver have even occurred in October typically. Not in the dead of winter.
I can't even imagine watching NFL games if there's not going to be anyone in the stands. I know football is great on TV but that's going to really suck !!!!!!!!!
Can you imagine having elway and Marino on the same team nightmares of luxury "elway you go in and throw it 80 yards' ' Marino you go in and move down field like a basketball sqaud percentage passed 'theur both clutch what to do and it's little known that in some of his high school years Marino was a running waurterback as good as elway in foot imagine Marino's knees entact through NFL and both on same team no salary cap like bill Walsh pitying Montana against young for best of both no cap caint afford to let either go to another team risk a nightmares of luxury
@@CKWolf-kq5wz what you say is sad but true but Al Davis should a been forced into mental treatment for passing up Marino the only reason they got Marcus Allen was because Al Davis was too busy suing the world and their brother for his disenchantment issues.after he got back from Court Al said they fouled by drafting Marcus and he wanted to draft Curt Warner instead. It's too bad Al wasn't doing a Trump reality show opposing Pete Rozelle during the 83 draft.tom Flores and co would a been sure to draft Dan Marino and 15 more years of vintage radduh ball would have been assured
Or if they actually tried to establish one or drafted a running back who wasn't a bust [Sammy Smith] Don Shula abandoned the philosophy he won [back 2 back] SBs' with for a pass oriented system around Marino's talent he won a ton of games with it set lots of passing records...But failed to get back to the Super Bowl unfortunately for Danny Boy.
The Marino turtle makes me nervous with that horrible technique and those leaden feet, was a fat slow pig even at 22yo, he is just a statistic because he threw 45 passes per game, that turtle is overrated.
@@CKWolf-kq5wz He coached 26 seasons in Miami , 13 without Marino 13 with , he won 130 games without him , 127 with him in 16 games seasons , his winning percentage was better without him
Probably the reason Denver and Miami met only twice during that time, is because back then scheduling was based on where a team finished in their division of their conference the previous year to determined whom they would play the next season. There where 3 divisions in each conference. Two of them in each conference had five teams in the divisions and AFC Central and NFC West had 4 teams in the division. If a team finished first in the division they would be matched up with the other 1st and 4th place finishers in the other divisions of their conference And the 1st place finishers would play teams 1 thru 4 in the 5 team division of opposite conference. (example: teams 1 thru 4 of NFC East vs. Teams 1 thru 4 from the AFC East). Match-ups of AFC vs. NFC were done on a rotational basis every 3 years. If a team finished 2nd in the division of their conference, they'd be matched up with the 2nd and 3rd place finishers in the conference. As well as playing teams 1 thru 4 in the opposite conference. If a team finished 4th in the division they'd be matched up with 1st and 4th place finishers in the division of the conference and teams 1 thru 4 in the opposite conference. If a team finished fifth in the five team division of the conference they'd play the other 5th place finishers in the other divisions of the conference twice and would play the teams in a 4 team division of the conference. The 5th place finishers would also play the other 5th place finishers in the opposite conference. Keep in mind teams in the same division of their conference played each other twice. That format has since changed due to expansion, realignment and going from 3 divisions to 4 in each conference. Scheduling is now done on rotational basis. Meaning within the conference they rotate every 3 years. AFC vs. NFC they rotate every 4 years. With the exception of 2 games that is based on where your team finished in the division.
The Broncos didn't make the playoffs that season despite winning eleven games. The Browns, on the other hand, made the playoffs despite winning only eight games. Something is wrong with that picture.
@@PerpetualArt Elway isnt in Marino's universe, let alone stadium. Terrell Davis is the only reason Elway has a couple rings. Put Marino on those Denver squads and he wins the 3 Elway lost. Anybody that actually thinks Elway is better than Marino which is a complete joke, either doesnt understand the NFL or is a biased Broncos homer
@@gregtrust5599 + I know, Elway is in the winners universe, and Marino is in the whininers universe. End of that debate. I don't need someone to recite stats to tell me about a qbs talent.
@@gregtrust5599 + Marino would have lost all those Superbowls! The Giants would have rolled him, as would the Redskins. And the 49ers would have beat him a second time. All this " put Marino on this team ", but Marino couldn't even beat the Patriots at home in 85. Maybe he could have beaten the 85 Bears because Buddy Ryan was too arrogant to put in a nickel back.
what I do know is Elway had better defensive players during his career than Marino and only after Elway had a potent run game did he get championship like most QBS
Incredibly, legends Marino and Elway only faced each other 3 times over their 17 year careers. Marino won the 2 reg season games and Elway the only playoff game. Bad work by nfl schedule makers.
Everybody thought the Chicago Bears were the greatest in 1985. But what would they have done against either of these teams? They did lose to the Dolphins that year, and the game wasn't even close.
Southern Miss RB starting on one side while a Southern Miss safety started on the other...back when small schools could get talent because the bigger schools were locked into their scholarship offers.
The Marino turtle makes me nervous with that horrible technique and those leaden feet, was a fat slow pig even at 22yo, he is just a statistic because he threw 45 passes per game, that turtle is overrated.
I love watching these old games. The pace is good, no interruptions with the constant review of plays. Also sweet seeing two legends dueling it out. Really awesome!
I was at this game! Great to see the first Elway vs Marino duel! As a Bronco fan this one didn’t go my way though. Still a great memory.
Great capture as always. And absolutely LOVE these old school uniforms and helmets, both teams! Bring them back fulltime!!
The battle of the 2 Hall of Fame Quarterbacks, from the 1983 Draft! Marino 🐬 vs. Elway 🐴. 🏈
3. Jim Kelly is is also class of 83 obviously he played in the USFL in 1984 & 1985
@@mrtnt3462 Yes he did, but Kelly and Marino… have winning seasons in College then Elway!
Elway is the only one with a SB. Marino had the raw arm talent but never had a good defense. Kelly just played his worst when it mattered the most.
These two AFC legendary gunslingers should have played every year but the fact they played only twice makes this video even MORE SPECIAL!!!
Terrible job by the NFL. Those 2 QB’s should have played against each other way more in their careers.
Its really amazing to think especially considering that they made the schedules according to how your team finished in your division. 1st & 4th would play the other 1st & 4th place teams. 2nd & 3rd would play the other 2nd & 3rd place teams. 5th place would play 5th place twice and all the teams of the division with 4 teams.
Amazing to think they wouldn't have finished 1st in the same year and especially 2nd or 3rd the same year.
Since before they were both drafted in 1983, each had the exact same NFL agent representing them.
Hard to believe the only Dolphin highlight of any significance since Superbowl VIII Jan-1974 was the defeat of the undefeated Bears later on in the 1985 season. I loved the Dolphins as a first-second grader 71/72/73. From the class of 83 we would get Elway,s 2 Superbowl wins late 1990,s.
Someone finally posted this one. Can’t believe Elway and Marino only met twice in the regular season.
Wow that is rather odd ...
yes two regular season games and one postseason game
Probably the reason Denver and Miami met only twice during that time, is because back then scheduling was based on where a team finished in their division of their conference the previous year to determined whom they would play the next season. There where 3 divisions in each conference. Two of them in each conference had five teams in the divisions and AFC Central and NFC West had 4 teams in the division.
If a team finished first in the division they would be matched up with the other 1st and 4th place finishers in the other divisions of their conference And the 1st place finishers would play teams 1 thru 4 in the 5 team division of opposite conference. (example: teams 1 thru
4 of NFC East vs. Teams 1 thru 4 from the AFC East). Match-ups of AFC vs. NFC were done on a rotational basis every 3 years.
If a team finished 2nd in the division of their conference, they'd be matched up with the 2nd and 3rd place finishers in the conference. As well as playing teams 1 thru 4 in the opposite conference.
If a team finished 4th in the division they'd be matched up with 1st and 4th place finishers in the division of the conference and teams 1 thru 4 in the opposite conference.
If a team finished fifth in the five team division of the conference they'd play the other 5th place finisher in the division
of the conference twice and would play the teams in a 4 team division of the conference. The 5th place finishers would also play the other 5th place finishers in the opposite conference.
Keep in mind teams in the same division of their conference played each other twice.
That format has since changed due to expansion, realignment and going from 3 divisions to 4 in each conference. Scheduling is now done on rotational basis. Meaning within the conference they rotate every 3 years. AFC vs. NFC they rotate every 4 years. With the exception of 2 games that
is based on where your team finished in the division.
I remember watching this,when the one o'clock Steelers game was over they switched over to this and that's when Marino hit Nat Moore for the long touchdown.Exciting game
great channel, thanks for posting all these Marino games
Marino is overrated!🤢
He is so overrated! A guy who got drafted at the bottom of the draft, choked 2 championship games at home, and got crushed in the only Superbowl he was in.
@@PerpetualArt The Marino turtle makes me nervous with that horrible technique and those leaden feet, was a fat slow pig even at 22yo, he is just a statistic because he threw 45 passes per game, that turtle is overrated.
Great 👍 job Maurence, life long Phins fan. Your work is much appreciated, keep em coming, especially Dolphins games
I love the dolphins. I enjoyed watching Lorenzo Hampton and Ron Davenport. thanks for showing this.
I watched this game when I was in 8th grade but had totally forgotten about the snow( late September!)I Know it's Denver but WOW!
It's too bad Elway didn't stay in Baltimore. Could have had Marino vs Elway twice a year, and when Kelly joined Buffalo, could have had 6 awesome match ups in the same division each year. In fact, the afc east would have had 5 of the 6 '83 qb draft picks, one on each team.
Marino vs Elway
Both legendary QBs.
Miami the previous seasons AFC champs.
Denver would become AFC champs the next season ('86) after this game.
Luv football in the 80s remembering my child hood too hall game qbs I watched whole game like it was a nfl sunday classic
Thanks for posting this. Awesome job.
That's crazy that there was snow in late September as it looks like a November/December game but in Denver it snows early in the fall season.
Snow this early in Denver is EXTREMELY rare. Usually it doesn't snow in Denver until late October/November.
Glad Marino got this win!
Both Elway and Marino had the exact same guy as their agent since being drafted in 1983.
The 80’s version of Manning vs Brady.
I would like to think that but they only met twice in reg season and never in playoffs
Roby was an awesome punter I don’t understand why he wasn’t more recognized for his talent . Who can punt 9-10 times and ball spiral like a pass and as long and high . Him and Ray Guy were very good at there job .
This game was played in September. 16 degrees wind chill. Again, this game was played in SEPTEMBER.
Odd! How the class of 1983 only won 2 Superbowls. Elway 97-98. Alas poor Marino. Much like Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly, Fran Tarkenton just could not win one. At least by himself. The N.F.L. really had nice uniforms then. Broncos and Dolphins rarely encountered each other during wild 70,s and 80,s.
Jim Kelly gave us an 0-4. Eason 0-1. Marino 0-1. Elway 2-3. 2-9 for the Class of 83.
They all been to a SB.. They all lost to GREAT Teams
@rollinstonemoula9689 Kelly lost the first one because of lack of a kicker!
Dang how many drops did marinos receivers have? He was throwing darts
I'm surprised that Elway vs Marino didn't have many games against each other.
Even though their careers were basically parallel, except for Marino playing one year longer, Elway and Marino only played each other three times.
Love those Orange Crush uniforms.
This was the season I really started paying attention to pro football.
Subfreezing temperatures and this game was played in September. Denver weather is crazy
That is crazy
Really big regular season game, would have been the AFC Championship game of course the year before if not for Pittsburgh upsetting the Broncos.
I don't think they played each other again until 1998. Shame.
Yeah, it was a meaningless game for Elway since they had the #1 seed wrapped up. Marino won. In the playoffs, Elway won 38-3.
Denver Broncos record in 1985 was 11-5. They didn't make the playoffs.
Don't worry...
Back in the NFL days before the merger... I believe the Baltimore Colts went 11-2-1.... And did not make the playoffs...
Lost to the Raiders twice in OT.
Snow in Denver in week 4 of the NFL? Wasn't it still September??? Crazy......
To this very day, the only arm that I have seen stronger than Elway's was Doug Williams.
Elway just could not process fast enough.
terrific win for Miami....
Thanks for ruining the game, I had no idea of the score and was going to watch it.
High 30s in Denver in September
And a big snowstorm the day and night before as mentioned by the intro... Amazing what can happen weather wise on the front range of the Rocky mountains even as early in late August and early September... This being late September is still something else. In fact the biggest snowstorms in Denver have even occurred in October typically. Not in the dead of winter.
I was in Denver in 1985 in September Miami dolphins 4 life
I can't even imagine watching NFL games if there's not going to be anyone in the stands. I know football is great on TV but that's going to really suck !!!!!!!!!
The only team Elway never beat in the regular season. 0-1 at Denver. 0-1 at Miami.
Merlin and Dick always a first rate broadcast team
Can you imagine having elway and Marino on the same team nightmares of luxury "elway you go in and throw it 80 yards' ' Marino you go in and move down field like a basketball sqaud percentage passed 'theur both clutch what to do and it's little known that in some of his high school years Marino was a running waurterback as good as elway in foot imagine Marino's knees entact through NFL and both on same team no salary cap like bill Walsh pitying Montana against young for best of both no cap caint afford to let either go to another team risk a nightmares of luxury
Total complete garbage idea in theory and in reality.
@@CKWolf-kq5wz what you say is sad but true but Al Davis should a been forced into mental treatment for passing up Marino the only reason they got Marcus Allen was because Al Davis was too busy suing the world and their brother for his disenchantment issues.after he got back from Court Al said they fouled by drafting Marcus and he wanted to draft Curt Warner instead. It's too bad Al wasn't doing a Trump reality show opposing Pete Rozelle during the 83 draft.tom Flores and co would a been sure to draft Dan Marino and 15 more years of vintage radduh ball would have been assured
Wow shanahan was really way ahead of his time with his offensive scheme
Imagine if Dan the Man had a running game
Or if they actually tried to establish one or drafted a running back who wasn't a bust [Sammy Smith] Don Shula abandoned the philosophy he won [back 2 back] SBs' with for a pass oriented system around Marino's talent he won a ton of games with it set lots of passing records...But failed to get back to the Super Bowl unfortunately for Danny Boy.
The Marino turtle makes me nervous with that horrible technique and those leaden feet, was a fat slow pig even at 22yo, he is just a statistic because he threw 45 passes per game, that turtle is overrated.
@@CKWolf-kq5wz He coached 26 seasons in Miami , 13 without Marino 13 with , he won 130 games without him , 127 with him in 16 games seasons , his winning percentage was better without him
Probably the reason Denver and Miami met only twice during that time, is because back then scheduling was based on where a team finished in their division of their conference the previous year to determined whom they would play the next season. There where 3 divisions in each conference. Two of them in each conference had five teams in the divisions and AFC Central and NFC West had 4 teams in the division.
If a team finished first in the division they would be matched up with the other 1st and 4th place finishers in the other divisions of their conference And the 1st place finishers would play teams 1 thru 4 in the 5 team division of opposite conference. (example: teams 1 thru
4 of NFC East vs. Teams 1 thru 4 from the AFC East). Match-ups of AFC vs. NFC were done on a rotational basis every 3 years.
If a team finished 2nd in the division of their conference, they'd be matched up with the 2nd and 3rd place finishers in the conference. As well as playing teams 1 thru 4 in the opposite conference.
If a team finished 4th in the division they'd be matched up with 1st and 4th place finishers in the division of the conference and teams 1 thru 4 in the opposite conference.
If a team finished fifth in the five team division of the conference they'd play the other 5th place finishers in the other divisions
of the conference twice and would play the teams in a 4 team division of the conference. The 5th place finishers would also play the other 5th place finishers in the opposite conference.
Keep in mind teams in the same division of their conference played each other twice.
That format has since changed due to expansion, realignment and going from 3 divisions to 4 in each conference. Scheduling is now done on rotational basis. Meaning within the conference they rotate every 3 years. AFC vs. NFC they rotate every 4 years. With the exception of 2 games that
is based on where your team finished in the division.
Yeah, so why did you have to type all that. We all know how the NFL schedules, and we know the Broncos got really good, and the Dolphins sucked.
@@whataboutrob442 Not everyone knows the scheduling formats past or present.
Wow great explanation
The Broncos didn't make the playoffs that season despite winning eleven games. The Browns, on the other hand, made the playoffs despite winning only eight games. Something is wrong with that picture.
Hard to believe Elway would get crushed in first 3 Super Bowls but win 2. While Marino like Kelly, Tarkenton and Fouts would win nothing.
Because Elway was a better QB. To get there 3 times in the 80s is a tough feat!
@@PerpetualArt Elway isnt in Marino's universe, let alone stadium. Terrell Davis is the only reason Elway has a couple rings. Put Marino on those Denver squads and he wins the 3 Elway lost. Anybody that actually thinks Elway is better than Marino which is a complete joke, either doesnt understand the NFL or is a biased Broncos homer
@@gregtrust5599 + I know, Elway is in the winners universe, and Marino is in the whininers universe. End of that debate. I don't need someone to recite stats to tell me about a qbs talent.
@@gregtrust5599 + Marino would have lost all those Superbowls! The Giants would have rolled him, as would the Redskins. And the 49ers would have beat him a second time. All this " put Marino on this team ", but Marino couldn't even beat the Patriots at home in 85. Maybe he could have beaten the 85 Bears because Buddy Ryan was too arrogant to put in a nickel back.
what I do know is Elway had better defensive players during his career than Marino and only after Elway had a potent run game did he get championship like most QBS
ダン・マリーノとジョン・エルウェイ、名ＱＢ対決懐かしいな。
Incredibly, legends Marino and Elway only faced each other 3 times over their 17 year careers. Marino won the 2 reg season games and Elway the only playoff game. Bad work by nfl schedule makers.
Someone said these two QBs best ever
Lots of people say that.
Sorry! Montana, Bradshaw and Brady.
Was this the only time Marino and Elway met ??
It was the 1st of 3 times both of the others happened in 1998, once in regular season and the other in the playoffs.
@@MJSIII appreciate the response
Everybody thought the Chicago Bears were the greatest in 1985. But what would they have done against either of these teams? They did lose to the Dolphins that year, and the game wasn't even close.
2:12:10 Elway almost sack throws a 40 yard missile for a first down
Southern Miss RB starting on one side while a Southern Miss safety started on the other...back when small schools could get talent because the bigger schools were locked into their scholarship offers.
Wish marnio would had a rb like ricky williams he would have a ring always will be my favorite qb my fav team
Needed a better D. Miami actually had several promising RBs during the marino era, but I think the OL was too finesse.
great post . but i saw Tony Nathan make great plays in other games , I would loved to have had three tight ends in this game,
The Marino turtle makes me nervous with that horrible technique and those leaden feet, was a fat slow pig even at 22yo, he is just a statistic because he threw 45 passes per game, that turtle is overrated.
One of the better teams to not make the playoffs.
Tony Nathan had a bad game but i still liked him
What if the Broncos drafted Mark Duper instead of that abject failure Orlando McDaniel ironically both receivers played at Louisiana schools
The basement dwelling video game generation today think Mahomie and Josh Allen have "strong" arms, lmao!
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Sammy WInder, Browns Killer.
Tony Nathan was slow as the mummy.
420th like!
I'd rather watch these games, than current NFL garbage. Garbage.
That was pretty early for snow, it was Sept 29 1985, summer had ended just a week ago