I have never seen anyone translate "deredere" as straight before. It's the dere from tsundere, the "cute" part. Someone who is deredere is just cute and loving without any pretext, so I guess that could be considered "straightforward".
@@ChargeQM I thought your response the the original post was diminishing the idea... whatever. Matsuri is not as shallow as your pretend. Being loved isn't enough to be attracted to someone.
Matsuri really is the type of person that cares for everyone. When she feels like you are being left out, she will talk to the others to support you and include you. I still remember that one video where Matsuri noticed that Suisei wasn't involved in a lot of collabs and talked to the others saying that Suisei was a really nice girl and they should collab with her more. It really struck a chord with me and made me love Matsuri a lot. She's definitely a caring friend and man it would be amazing to be her friend.
She has been doing that for almost every Hololive member that struggled. She helped Haato when she didnt collab much, she helped Shion when she struggled at first and now she was there for Luna. But while everyone else found their footing and moved on, Luna truly grew attached to Matsuri and wants to give back.
@@mintour27k90 i mean....... If you are straight and someone from your gender confesses to u,I don't really think you would say yes just cause u don't want to break his/her heart.I do agree that Matsuri deserves some love but let's think about the other person involved too. But I'm not on either side(Matsuri or Hoshikawa) cause Hoshikawa kinda rudely rejected Matsuri whereas Matsuri was extremely persistent. Not saying that I hate both V tubers in fact I like watching their streams but I don't think we should just think from the audience pov and think about their situation too.I mean,sure they won't date irl but still they have to keep pretending to date in their Virtual avatars and if they kinda break up,I can foresee a lot of backlash and unwanted hate from some crazy hardcore fans.Especially after knowing the reason why hololive and holostar split due to the so called crazy fans.Also just thinking about stalkers like the one Mel had to go through is freaky and I don't want any V tuber.... Heck anyone to go through that.Well it was really suffering to watch the SaraMatsu flirt stream but I kinda find it essential. Sorry for this long ass comment and wasting some of your precious time
This was one of the most relaxing streams I watched in a while. Soooo many tee tee moments and great chemistry. Would be awesome to see more collabs of them together.
Just listen how affectionate Luna sounds. This is like high level flirting. I'm not even kidding this is the kind of stuff you hear between lovers all the time. It's wonderful how close they are.
@Copypastable Matsuri and Luna in particular are very open about their feelings though. Matsuri directly addressed that she doesn't want to date Luna because they are in the same company and because she is afraid of messing up their relationship, because she has no experience. They are basically just one step away from crossing the line all the time. So yeah... they are pretty damn direct. They aren't playing anything for the simps.
Friendly reminder, is that they all acting. Don't forget that they are talents, professionals and thus all the "teetee" etc are false...... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
It seems like lately from all the clipped videos I've watched with Luna in it, she's forgetting her character. In this 2 minutes of video, I think she said -nanora thrice and her baby talking tone is now turning to her normal tone, and IT SOUND SO LOVELY.
Sometimes I kinda thought of them dating each other I mean It can't be helped I love how Matsuri attacks Luna so smOothly but gets flustered when counterattacked Sasuga Festival
Even they have thought about that already. But Matsuri said she wants to stay friends for now, because she doesnt want to ruin what they have right now.
V3n0m Look up the channel called "TeeTeeSubs" they've clipped 3 different videos of very honest moments of these two. I think they go into the most detail in Part 2 about that topic if you don't want to watch them all.
It just adds a new perspective on we can see Matsuri as: a kind, caring girl in the inside. I don't mind the lewd habits, but i do want to see more similar moments like these.
From these kind of stream i think it is safe to asume, and also a reminder, that not everyone, or even almost no one, has the same personality as they are when the stream turn off. i think streamer/ youtuber has 3 different personality 1. when they're on stream 2. when they're with their friends/offstream 3. when they're with themself
It's interesting to see that if the girls (idols) have any relationship with any male, they will get backlash and yet when they do with other girls, people are fine with it.
That's just your skewed perception as a foreign fan watching clips. If any of them actually started a relationship with _anyone_ (yes, even girls, but especially other Hololive members) then the bad fans will get very angry. Just as a reminder, when Matsuri french kissed Roboco (with her consent), Roboco's fans basically bullied Matsuri into staying away from her. Matsuri has been trying to avoid getting too close to any of the girls ever since. Luna just managed to bypass her defenses.
Yourson Isold Hmm, interesting. I’ve never heard of the Robocco incident. I’m just saying what I’ve seen from my observation so far. If Towa’s incident is any indication that even hearing a male voice in the background made her receive massive backlash that she took a break streaming. Also the limited interaction between HoloLive and HoloStars made me think that way. Meanwhile, the girls are free to have “Tee Tee” moments with other girls.
At this pace Luna x Matsuri will be OkaKoro 2.0 in the sense that no matter who Matsuri flirts with Luna will know that Matsuri will always come back to Luna. It would be a good thing of course. Tee tee stonks Skyrocketing now.
I was wondering, are they playing on the main Hololive server where all the other Hololive members' buildings and stuff are, or is this their own new world or something? Man, you know what I just thought, it would be so cool if they released a clone of their server every so often so fans could dick around and see all the cool things they've built
@@alexsommers6891 yeah, i feel glad now that matsuri gets some love. she seems to be the type that needs a lot of it. maybe she acted a bit crazy around fbk/hoshikawa because she wanted them to love her back.
@@N40AX We.. we kinda will though, because they talk about stuff like that on streams and on Twitter all the time. Heck, they are doing an offline collab together soon.
@@N40AX Okay, of course they have lots of private stuff we wont know, but Luna literally announcing that they will have a sleepover after giving Matsuri pajamas on her birthday stream is kind of as public as it gets. lol
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Matsuri really has 0 defense its adorable
it's so cute..
Typical Glass Cannon
Tsundere Matsuri is my new religion
"I am god. Okay?"
-Matsuri, probably
I'm interested
AMEN
th-cam.com/video/Nd5ieJcM_Tg/w-d-xo.html
*intense Yes*
@@user-dk2vp1gq2j You forgot the "baka."
Luna: Matsuri is actually a nice person
Matsuri: Lies, slander, and slanderous lies
Sometimes I sit in the corner of the dark room and think to myself
"Is Matsuri........ pure.......?"
*Top 10 questions science still can't answer*
*holds gun*
"Always has been."
Schrödinger pure
**musically** _How did this happen~?_
@@axinitewolf **sad music** _where did we go so wrong?_
_why? why....._
"Today, Matsuri sounds unusually straight to Luna"
Straight is pretty unusual for Matsuri, yes.
I have never seen anyone translate "deredere" as straight before. It's the dere from tsundere, the "cute" part. Someone who is deredere is just cute and loving without any pretext, so I guess that could be considered "straightforward".
Also Matsuri strikes me as 'whoever will love me' -sexual. We know she likes men too.
@@ChargeQM Bisexual people are not straight.
@@yoursonisold8743 ... did I say she was?
@@ChargeQM I thought your response the the original post was diminishing the idea... whatever.
Matsuri is not as shallow as your pretend. Being loved isn't enough to be attracted to someone.
This is just straight up a wholesome moment.
Matsuri's actually been exceptionally wholesome for like the last 2 months or so.
てえてえAF
Very wholesome,
not your pfp tho eren yeager
@@kyunanimating You alright there, son?
Matsuri really is the type of person that cares for everyone. When she feels like you are being left out, she will talk to the others to support you and include you. I still remember that one video where Matsuri noticed that Suisei wasn't involved in a lot of collabs and talked to the others saying that Suisei was a really nice girl and they should collab with her more. It really struck a chord with me and made me love Matsuri a lot. She's definitely a caring friend and man it would be amazing to be her friend.
She has been doing that for almost every Hololive member that struggled. She helped Haato when she didnt collab much, she helped Shion when she struggled at first and now she was there for Luna. But while everyone else found their footing and moved on, Luna truly grew attached to Matsuri and wants to give back.
Honestly, I'm really glad Matsuri is so happy with Luna by her side. No one deserves all that heart break stuff, and certainly not her.
Matsuri deserves to be happy
What do you mean bro?
@@eliaslopez2740 matsuri loves hoshikawa and hoshikawa being straight turned downed matsuri
@@mintour27k90 i mean....... If you are straight and someone from your gender confesses to u,I don't really think you would say yes just cause u don't want to break his/her heart.I do agree that Matsuri deserves some love but let's think about the other person involved too.
But I'm not on either side(Matsuri or Hoshikawa) cause Hoshikawa kinda rudely rejected Matsuri whereas Matsuri was extremely persistent.
Not saying that I hate both V tubers in fact I like watching their streams but I don't think we should just think from the audience pov and think about their situation too.I mean,sure they won't date irl but still they have to keep pretending to date in their Virtual avatars and if they kinda break up,I can foresee a lot of backlash and unwanted hate from some crazy hardcore fans.Especially after knowing the reason why hololive and holostar split due to the so called crazy fans.Also just thinking about stalkers like the one Mel had to go through is freaky and I don't want any V tuber.... Heck anyone to go through that.Well it was really suffering to watch the SaraMatsu flirt stream but I kinda find it essential.
Sorry for this long ass comment and wasting some of your precious time
@@ludens1472 Nobody was blaming on Hoshikawa lol, you made that up by yourself
All of Luna's advances finally paid off and gets the attention and care of her beloved senpai
and this is the same woman who once screamed that she was Hololive and threatened Yagoo
What happened, Matsuri?
She's a Glass Cannon. Dishes a lot of damage but can't handle if any damage is given to her.
that's what love does to people
those were the days when she goes crazy after getting rejected by hoshikawa. probably her coping mechanism.
Even the strongest person can become soft once they found love
She's a berserker class so it makes sense...
They're a cute couple tbh
If they suddenly said they are avtually dating I would not be surprised.
Yep
Yeah had to watch this twice so cute
This was one of the most relaxing streams I watched in a while. Soooo many tee tee moments and great chemistry. Would be awesome to see more collabs of them together.
She went from "Ehh I don't see you as a woman." from "B-Baka." Really quick
Just listen how affectionate Luna sounds. This is like high level flirting. I'm not even kidding this is the kind of stuff you hear between lovers all the time.
It's wonderful how close they are.
@Copypastable Matsuri and Luna in particular are very open about their feelings though. Matsuri directly addressed that she doesn't want to date Luna because they are in the same company and because she is afraid of messing up their relationship, because she has no experience. They are basically just one step away from crossing the line all the time.
So yeah... they are pretty damn direct. They aren't playing anything for the simps.
They’re adorable. One day I hope to have a relationship like theirs.
Friendly reminder, is that they all acting. Don't forget that they are talents, professionals and thus all the "teetee" etc are false...... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@@apextoxic6889 Blah blah blah. Everyone, please don't feed the troll.
@@yoursonisold8743 pls give me link when Matsuri said she doesn't want to date luna for that reason. Need to see that
Matsuri prefers their house being burned down rather than her TeTe get exposed.
That is very adorable.
Luna's child voice is so cute
It’s nice knowing that Matsuri has finally noticed Luna going after her~
She deserves so much happiness ❤️
No wonder Luna simps to Matsuri
She's really affectionate irl
They are so cute together. Also did Luna's true voice slipped a bit at 1:08 ? Anyway more fuel for the ship. ^^
It seems like lately from all the clipped videos I've watched with Luna in it, she's forgetting her character. In this 2 minutes of video, I think she said -nanora thrice and her baby talking tone is now turning to her normal tone, and IT SOUND SO LOVELY.
She has always been like this when she talks fast
When Matsuri's attack is down, she has nothing else
matsuri is helpless infront of luna and thats hella cute
Sometimes I kinda thought of them dating each other I mean It can't be helped I love how Matsuri attacks Luna so smOothly but gets flustered when counterattacked Sasuga Festival
Even they have thought about that already. But Matsuri said she wants to stay friends for now, because she doesnt want to ruin what they have right now.
@@yoursonisold8743 source
@@yoursonisold8743 Woaahhh sauce pleasee
V3n0m Look up the channel called "TeeTeeSubs" they've clipped 3 different videos of very honest moments of these two. I think they go into the most detail in Part 2 about that topic if you don't want to watch them all.
@@StaffGanion Literally yesterday's Minecraft stream.
Matsuri’s new model makes her look like she has 0 defense and is a relatable otaku
I am heavily invested on this ship
Never enough dose of tete moments of MatsuLuna www XD
I love this wholesome moment ❤️
Damn, Matsuri`s new expressive avatar makes this ten times more adorable.
I am happy for Matsuri. May she find her happiness with Luna.
@Vtuber for all - really well done thanks for translating
This is what happen when you put all your skill points of attack and none for defence
Teetee
Matsuri is more of princess than luna if you take away her lewdness
It just adds a new perspective on we can see Matsuri as: a kind, caring girl in the inside.
I don't mind the lewd habits, but i do want to see more similar moments like these.
So, Matsuri is pretty much the "I don't wanna be horny anymore, I wanna be happy" meme.....
Luna tease her a bit and she broke down. Sasuga 0 defense glass cannon.
From these kind of stream i think it is safe to asume, and also a reminder, that not everyone, or even almost no one, has the same personality as they are when the stream turn off.
i think streamer/ youtuber has 3 different personality
1. when they're on stream
2. when they're with their friends/offstream
3. when they're with themself
Awww these two are cute together
It's interesting to see that if the girls (idols) have any relationship with any male, they will get backlash and yet when they do with other girls, people are fine with it.
That's just your skewed perception as a foreign fan watching clips. If any of them actually started a relationship with _anyone_ (yes, even girls, but especially other Hololive members) then the bad fans will get very angry. Just as a reminder, when Matsuri french kissed Roboco (with her consent), Roboco's fans basically bullied Matsuri into staying away from her. Matsuri has been trying to avoid getting too close to any of the girls ever since. Luna just managed to bypass her defenses.
Yourson Isold Hmm, interesting. I’ve never heard of the Robocco incident. I’m just saying what I’ve seen from my observation so far. If Towa’s incident is any indication that even hearing a male voice in the background made her receive massive backlash that she took a break streaming. Also the limited interaction between HoloLive and HoloStars made me think that way. Meanwhile, the girls are free to have “Tee Tee” moments with other girls.
At this pace Luna x Matsuri will be OkaKoro 2.0 in the sense that no matter who Matsuri flirts with Luna will know that Matsuri will always come back to Luna. It would be a good thing of course. Tee tee stonks Skyrocketing now.
Ah, yes
Luna's NASA Pc
She's gotta load up some 2048px texture packs with the shaders
You don't need THAT much processing power to run a shaders in vanilla
Matsuri sometimes goes into these kinds of moods during late nights
Thank you!!
man Luna really bring her charm out when collabbing with other holo members...
Is this teetee?
I think it is
no it's not........
because matsuri herself said that they're way past teetee levels 😌
tee tee
@@gowon420 草
This is genuinely past tee tee
Dorime🙏
Luna and Matsuri being wholesome is an absolute blessing
Matsuri is truly a glass cannon
Summer Color Festival getting relentlessly attacked by oppai-loli princess
_I hope we wouldn't get the nice boat ending_
"Rainbows are an effect of light hitting water particles" some science guy.
Me, watching video: pukes rainbows
I was wondering, are they playing on the main Hololive server where all the other Hololive members' buildings and stuff are, or is this their own new world or something?
Man, you know what I just thought, it would be so cool if they released a clone of their server every so often so fans could dick around and see all the cool things they've built
Is the main holoserver Watame is also there sometimes
Luna is really nice
Another Dark souls princess with 0 stamina featuring Glass canon tèté👁👄👁🙏
Wait, shes all wholesome?
always has been
Damn it this is too wholesome
Aww, that's very sweet of Luna
Matsuri really loves luna huh
Matsuri is really really really
More Loli than Luna like for real
Awww man I have now a crush on luna
Tsundere matsuri is a thing now
KickStarter for they both get married together pls
is the a whole new Hoshikawa x matsuri fiasco or is it just a normal てえてえ moment? HmmMm
Difference is Luna loves Matsuri back, unlike Hoshikawa
@@alexsommers6891 yeah, i feel glad now that matsuri gets some love. she seems to be the type that needs a lot of it. maybe she acted a bit crazy around fbk/hoshikawa because she wanted them to love her back.
no matter if on stream or off stream...
she always has 0 defense.....
Glass Canon always be Glass Canon ~
the thing is
i want more of these tee tee, please provide thank you
Yes, a good ship
I BELIEVE IN MATSULUNA
I've seen this plot before...
T E E
T E E
This is the peak Teetee
i hope they're actually dating irl
Something happened at their matching pajamas slumber party.
Probs Luna had another present for Matsury offstream.
I dont think they had that sleepover yet.
@@yoursonisold8743 We will never know.
@@N40AX We.. we kinda will though, because they talk about stuff like that on streams and on Twitter all the time. Heck, they are doing an offline collab together soon.
@@yoursonisold8743 Unless something private happened. 🤣
@@N40AX Okay, of course they have lots of private stuff we wont know, but Luna literally announcing that they will have a sleepover after giving Matsuri pajamas on her birthday stream is kind of as public as it gets. lol
The pure str build has been outdated since vsrsion 1.2 Matsuri really needs to invest into some def
shiawase dayo
Does anybody know lunas texture pack? I really want it LOL
Matsunderi
cutee
i ship it
Tee Tee Nanora!
Teetee
ていてい
So we Luna x Matsuri ship now ey?
I just realized something, this ship is like a Japanese prototype version of Kiara x Calli. XD