There is a bit of a irony of you getting sponsored by World Of Tanks.. Which nowdays is very much P2W trash game with studio which wants to squeeze out all the money remaining from this game
Just a bit of grinding and hey champ thats ALOT of valuable stuff you didnt pay for you earned for yourself. And Warframe slots are worth the cost sometimes
That is exactly how i feel. I used to buy the big packs of platinum when i got the -75% coupon from login rewards (not every time but often) and just buy every cosmetic from the market (other than tennogen). Warframe never made me feel that i have to or need to spend but made me to want to spend. Purely out of satisfaction for playing a good game and wanting to support the developers. :)
Platinum being tradable honestly a huge gamechanger. People who had time to play and farm rarer stuffs have their time spent valued more when people wants to exchange their spare rare loots for platinum. It's rare to get our time wasted on the game valued let alone allowing u to earn premium currency. And for those who bought platinum and spent it on trading not only you making profit for yourself u also respect others' time spent, its basically an efficient work environment.
Exactly, I have spent a fair amount on the game but I have also traded enough to save myself from the cruelty of the rng gods. When something new comes out I usually farm most or sometimes all but if I need or want I can use plat to get that one last annoying piece that won't drop.
@@Magnus_FrausI used to know a guy who made a full-time job out of it his name was jamrock I don't know if he still does it but he's a cool ass Jamaican dude if you find him he could hook you up
@@Y4ngCP then he can get a job instead of being a lazy ytuber crying about muh morals and greed in the gaming industry while gladly taking money from a game/company that tries to milk it's players all the time
DE has made some money with Warframe, but the reason why AAA companies don't try to make games like Warframe is that they don't want to make "some money", they want **ALL** of the money, they want **EVERY. LAST. BIT. OF. THE. MONEY.** They will use every single predatory monetization under the sun if they have to, and they don't mind that they launch 10 failed live services, if they can get ONE to work. They will never try to make the next Warframe because they're too busy trying to make the next Fortnite or the next League of Legends.
And to quote someone as an addendum: if the can't have ALL of the money, they don't want ANY of it. They will shut down a project that doesn't earn millions in the first week. They will shut it down for costing five cents more to maintain than they wanted it too.
Translation - Most companies fall into the trap that their primary motivation is money and growth, not taking care of their employees, and ensuring the game is worth playing. This motivation is a consistent divider between amazing games, and terrible games.
But players also generally fail to realize that this whole making a shit game and selling said game works. Everyone sees that the player numbers drop and they eventually shut down the servers, but they always wonder how come there's another shit game coming out again. Because it sells, and it sells like hot bread almost all the time. They're making profits 10 times that they invested in it, do you really think they give a damn if tomorrow nobody is playing their game? That's the skeleton crew's job if they even bother to allocate any extra resources to maintain the game. You can't have a business based entirely on your communities love, there's a reason there's only DE, GGG, GSG, Riot and a few others that are successful yet don't earn that much (except Riot of course). It's way easier and ten times more profitable to make another shit CoD every two years because you've got the normies stuck in a cycle that don't know other games exist or don't care. Not to mention that in order to keep a player base interested you always have to innovate. Why do you think Warframe has 100 different systems and how damn many game modes that were just slapped onto the main game? Why do you think PoE keeps making Leagues where they have systems that are a completely different game genres within the game? This takes effort, resources and time; why would I do any of that when I could just make more slop that my normie community will just eat it all up every time I release the same thing with mildly improved graphics and make absolute bank off it every year. Online discourse means nothing when your audience isn't terminally online and is busy with school, work or family and only have 2 hours per day to relax.
@@kaneasax4923 frame fighter is a joke; it never was "good" but after removing bullet jump why even bother? at least with bullet jump it was like rock'em sock'em robots; with grapple used to counter bullet jump pokes... now its just walking toward an awaiting kick to the other side of the screen (but i bet Mag is still one of the best Characters because of pull's auto combo). her and ash always were pretty good.
This right here is actually what made me quit eventually. The game isn't bad, but it's full of bugs and glitches, but they seem to focus more on adding new things than fixing these. And what's more is that so much of the new stuff seems to be actively trying to minimize the stuff you've collected by adding game modes and quests where you can't use any/most of it. Then they announced that the main team left to work on something else and they were going to add a roguelike mode as the main content update (a game genre most known for having to start over and over again), and that was the last straw for me.
One of my core warframe memories was a pop-up I received in-game after queueing up a few new frames at the forge. At first I thought it was just some ad or event card like Destiny 2 would notify you about, but after a quick skim that notion was disproven. It was a request for a survey that opened with a single question: "Do you feel like Warframe respects your time"? I've legitimately never had a game, let alone a live service game at that, show care and consideration for it's players on such an individual level. It could have said nothing and I would have gone on just fine. But it didn't. It actually made an effort to give me the means to review and communicate, even on some distant level, with the game devs. Being given the opportunity to be heard like that made such an incredible impression.
@@numberonedad Not really, on my end. The gameplay itself is quite good! But the grind structure and the storytelling left a lot to be desired for me. Not that they're innately bad, but I prefer other settings and grinds that feel more rewarding than WF's
@@numberonedad Like with many games it's just something you either love or don't. I enjoy Warframe and love what DE has done with it, but I don't play the game all the time because I get bored of grinding easily. Come back every so often to see what's happening, play for a bit then leave it.
Imagine starting off as an intern at some silly video game company and find yourself the creative head of their biggest selling title about ten years later.
"Warframe is not what I expected" .... "Warframe is getting weird" ... "Warframe is a game that cares to be good" ... "Warframe is a wake up call" Few months later... "Warframe saved my failing marriage "
"players want to support the game because they love the game" this is very real, I live in Brazil here with a discount the platinums (game money) cost 400 reais for a package of 4000 platinums something around 90 dollars, with a discount of 75% managed to pay just 100 reais for the same 4000 platinum, for us it is extremely expensive to spend 30% to 40% of our payment in a virtual currency, yet I and many other Brazilians spend our hard-earned money on the game because we feel the company's love for game and the affection for the community that no other company has for its communities.
26:56 I mean DE literally hold a wholeass convention for a full weekend to celebrate the players. They put in the time, money, energy, and effort to make a wholeass yearly convention that celebrates Warframe and its players. If that isn’t proof enough of how much DE cares about its players and its game the I don’t know what will
Literally This game has its Own Convention Long before it even got close to where it was now. That's how popular it is, yet noone speaks of it and it is largly ignored by the larger AAA reviewers and journalists.
@@BlueBDconsidering how most mainstream game journalism is, maybe that is a good thing. Many a franchise has been ruined by its own popularity, just look at Star Wars, Star Trek, etc. When something gets big enough, people will try to ruin it for their own gain
It's a blast too! Unreal time but getting a lot busier year after year. With popularity comes discovery and thus more attendance. This year was roouugghhh for lineups lol.
Warframe is literally the model used by Diablo Immoral Anybody praising that shit needs to understand what a game designed by psychologists ACTUALLY means. Doesn't matter how "fun" the game is to you, understanding that it's manipulating you into enjoying a game that is engineered to be as dull as possible to extend playtime, it uses mechanics that everybody panned Dungeon Keeper 3 for. It uses Fomo mechanics to wrap you up into the game, want a specific frame? Better grind it out before it gets vaulted, you know an entire mechanic used by Gacha games to make you pay money for it. I'm so tired of people praising this game when it's literally THE example of all of the things gamers hate, just made in a way to where none of the mechanics are so bad that anybody "cares" People are too stupid to realize that this game is literally everything we hate about Diablo Immoral, just engineered in a way to where nobody notices.
@@SherrifOfNottingham No base warframe is time gated, and the prime versions you're referring to are on a rotation between times that they're available through relics and are always available if there are people ready and willing to sell their sets.
Then there's me who started as a Warframe fanatic way back in 2013 before quitting after years of complaints and community requests going unanswered (and their big hyped melee 3.0 turned out to be a gigantic nothing burger).
@@SherrifOfNottinghamBlah blah blah 😅 sorry dude 😎 🚬 for me it's not the same 😅 cry cry like a butterfly 🦋 😅 now I hate people that hate Warframe but prise other games that are shit to me like halo 😅 holy here in Mexico they live that game but for when I try it I feel the most boring shit I ever play in my life 🧬 it's feels Soo boring that my ancestors want to die again and again 😂😂 no offense but for me most of the games are shit the stale and boring 😅 not every game some are very fk good 👍🏽 but most are trash 🗑️ . And for people that don't understand Warframe I mean all people are not born in the same guy 😅 so don't worry there's gonna be another game more easy for you to understand 😅
@@SherrifOfNottingham your singular directly voiced criticism towards Warframe is completely invalid, because that's simply not how it works. The regular non-prime variants of weapons and frames are never vaulted. Prime variants yes, do get vaulted... after a year instead of gacha's typical couple weeks. On monthly rotation there's a Prime Resurgence event which soft unvaults 2 prime frames and their associated weapons. But even while it's vaulted that doesn't preclude you access because trading exists; something that doesn't in any gacha ever because that stops people spending more money to get their own copy of the hit new thing. And even then, the prime variants of frames have almost unnoticeable differences to the regular variant, with prime variants of weapon only marginal improvements for a few extra percent of DPS. I have plenty of weapons and frames that I could have gotten the prime for but I simply didn't care because it doesn't matter. If it bothers you that much, don't give it the time of day. You compare Warframe to Diablo Immortal, yet Warframe doesn't let you spend $2000 rolling upgrades for a chance at an actual improvement when 99% of the time you're going to get garbage. You would be hard pressed to find a slot machine in Warframe, because it doesn't exist.
@JohanMood You fool. Not only are you wrong, you're double wrong. 1) That's still Fashion Frame. 2) Shade Frame is the true final form, wherein your color scheme, and even the picture edits you make, all stylize white to black shading, rather than any color.
16:59 - The fact that the weapons and warframes need so much time is not a real problem as there is SO MUCH to do aside. Trust me, I'm a Warframe founder and I still have SO MUCH things to do… When I launch a craft, I almost forget it as I focus on other tasks. You should try too, the time won't be a problem anymore for you. xD
Players created a movement tech to cross the map faster. The devs embraced that notion and overhauled their whole system for faster traversal. A player pulled a slot machine hundreds of times trying to get a specific item. The devs saw how predatory this was and removed the slot machine. New players become confused with the new player experience. The devs constantly try to improve the intro sequence. They attempted a new player guidance program. They have in-game help chat. Recently they have prompts that ask you if you know what to do and how they can help you better. Thanks devs.
They did take their time, but at least it's getting easier to start, ngl, it was rough going through early game all on my own, Warframe, like League, is a game that you cannot go alone into unless you've played A LOT of games, otherwise it might feel like too much and you'll just drop it bc it doesn't feel fun.
"A player pulled a slot machine hundreds of times trying to get a specific item. The devs saw how predatory this was and removed the slot machine" What is Riven mod?
@batanthai6841 I been playing since before Harrow and don't use rivens because I don't understand them. Having done steel path I can say they're not necessary.
@@batanthai6841 It was Kubrow fur patterns iirc. You could gamble on them with plat until that one guy spent way too much to get a specific pattern. Rivens aren't predatory as you can't buy kuva with real money or platinum.
@@sparkyjj11 yeah 😊 Tennogen things are fan made and voted. They even provide software to make it easier to make those. If your skin is picked you get some of the profits and ofc free version for yourself.
@@WhatBeDaPointMon There is Aya and Regal Aya, Aya is obtained by doing open world hunts or opening relic packs in Syndicates and using it to buy Prime Resurgence relics, Regal Aya is only obtained with real money and is used to buy ready-made Prime accessories and Prime Warframes in Varzia.
personally I think trading for plat and nightwave can fix the slots point and the waiting time in crafting gives you a reason to take a break and not get burnt out or too addicted
They even gave Ordis a recurring line for on your ship telling you to take a break from playing. Saying that the same pressure that creates diamonds also creates rubble. But the number of times he has said it right after I've logged in and I'm checking on everything as a sort of taking stock to see what I want to do for the day is surprising. Like, "I was going to play, but if you want me to take a break immediately after starting up that's on you."
@@KeptWolf769 I think that's same reason they've credited for limiting the amount of standing you can earn in game in a 24 hour period. Some days I'm like, why do you even need it? Other days I'm like, what do you mean I hit the limit?
Just came from @Aztecross video reviewing this video. I had to stop by and leave a like and subscribe. Keep up the great work. Warframe has always been one of my favorite games. It is one of those games I can always come back too.
I’ve tried Warframe 3 times and it never stuck.. I never got out of the tutorial quests.. I decided to give it an actual try 2 weeks ago and all of a sudden I have 65 hours in the game. ITS SO GOOD!
One you get the mid-game like having all your start chart and unlocking steel path...oh boy is fun. You get access to Incarnon and omg I fucking love those things, you get arcane and you are overall broken but some enemies still beat yo ass so you have to be more broken than you already are lol.
over 3k hours... and I loved (almost) every minute it. 1: The tutorial leaves you in a confusing void... Your goal should be to _"unlock all of the planets"._ 2: You have to get into a mindset of _"Farming today, for the items you will be using tomorrow"_ If you can get those two rules through your head - you will LOVE Warframe. What to spend platinum on if you choose to get some: 1: Frame storage slots 2: Weapon storage slots 3: Potatos (it makes sense - I promise) 4: Riven storage slots [EDIT]: Inserted potatoes
@@Vesperon You mean weapon storage over frame storage? Hmm... argument could be made, but starting out there are definitely weapons that are sub-par... like the MR1 stuff you get at the start that can be tossed. But I'd be happy with a split focus on Frame and Weapon slots. :) Both are important.
I agree with frame and weapons (order might be on case by case basis). Rivens, I would say should be 4 with 3 being companions/archwing/associated weapons. That's my preference, but mainly because I haven't really looked at rivens yet
Pete Parsons the CEO of Bungie needs to watch this video and then get fired. Destiny 2 was trying to do something like this but with Pete Parsons at the helm he has ruined it time and time again. Warframe is such a great game with Digital Extremes running it and someone who loves and cares for it. Rebecca Ford is a fucking BOSS. We need more people like her.
I met Rebecca once years ago at a party, got a photo with her and hanged out for a bit. Told her that I loved Pariah. She told me that game was made long before she started working at DE. Really lovely person, very friendly, coolest person I've met in the industry. She is incredibly down to earth.
Crazy how we live in a world in which 99% of corporate suits are blind to the most profitable thing that exists: goodwill. Digital Extremes are among the remaining 1%.
@@olivierdols5556 Such a weird world. In DE we see the head of the game be constantly in stream to show the new things, and Steve the CEO did the same, they were always on center in their conventions Meanwhile on ActiBlizz we had Bobby F Kotick that the most we saw him interact in an entertainment medium was being in Moneyball.
I'm not gonna lie. This guy made me tear up. I started this game when I moved to America in 2013. I didn't grow up with games, especially in Nigeria. I was 11 years old, and my dad gave me his old laptop, and I ended up stumbling on Warframe. I remember my little brother and I had to share the keyboard because our hands were too small to play, and we never knew about key bindings. The difficulty of playing a great game with another person pretty much "piloting" a Warframe. We fell in love immediately with the game, and it's was a break from our anxiety from moving continents. I'm now 22, and I haven't dropped the game, and I buy from their markets because I support it. It was my first game, and I appreciate this man for those pleasant words about this game. Thank you for letting me re-live those memories from 10 years ago.
the one thing i ALWAYS and will always say the best thing about warframe is its community... i have never seen a more giving and kind community, when i was a newbie someone made it his personal duty to help me for about 2 months, he asked what playstyle i like, he helped me farm a frame that matched said playstyle, gave me premium currency for, and i quote, "just because"... not to mention basically every veteran has a "pay it forward" mentality because at some point they wwere also newbies, and they were also given the same interaction i had, and after a year i was the one who payed it forward, i LOVE it so much
@@okwut6377 It's been like that since the beginning, I started in december 2014, and the first thing the random vet who took me under his wing did was give me a frost Prime set after I asked for help farming the regular. It was my literal first frame, and it's my most used frame, and by a lot. Pay It Forward, he said, and I've tried.
@@xyzen9673 i used to be a top trader back in my days (returning soon to the game and that was in like 2015/16) and i gave like 40k plat to newbie players when i was leaving kinda gonna miss having some plat due all the frames that been added for the past 4 years i havent played... oh well guess i'll be grinding old ass relics for the plat need to see wich frames are vaulted to run those relics and get me sone plat
I even once got random gifts in my mailbox! I'm even veteran player, so I texted the person "thank you, but why?" and all they said was "enjoy :)" This community just likes being nice :)
True this is why I never burn out in playing warframe, i wait for a major update, do said content then take a break and play other games then I repeat the cycle this results in to the maximum enjoyment I get when I play warframe
I quit after about 350 hours. It was fun but also extremely grindy and spent hours and hours reading and researching all the systems the game throws at you.
Imagine, the people who make the best entertainment products, are the people who enjoy what they are doing and want to entertain people. And not the suits looking at financials thinking they are cash flow positive on good faith and can squeeze just a bit harder for more money. Almost as if sales and financial people dont care about entertainment or good products......
That's the problem with the gaming industry as a wider whole, right there. Penny pinchers at the top don't see games as a form of entertainment, they see a product. Products make money, money makes profits, profits make fat CEO bank accounts. Ergo, they must make more product. Quality suffers for the sake of quantity, and in turn our experience as gamers suffers. Not to sound too hyperbolic or dramatic, but the gaming industry is being suffocated under the weight of its own selfish greed.
@@jamiekay4210honestly all these ceos are pretty dumb to be treating gaming this way, most aaa games these past few years has barely broke even but yet they keep spending more and increasing the price despite it not working out.
Plus you'll likely return to a new Warframe or story mission, but it's practically guaranteed there'll be new content when you come back. It's amazing.
An interesting observation. My experience is similar. I took up Warframe towards the end of the shitshow known as Pandaland when looking for something similar to Mass Effect 3 multiplayer--but with more. Never bothered looking at WoW again. And it was so much more.
Yeah, WoW and WoW clones literally put me to sleep now because Warframe spoiled me (I legit fell asleep trying to play SWTOR). It's such a huge glowup.
Man, I'm a washed up FFXIV raider and I was hoping Dawntrail would hold my attention for a while, it didn't and I'm now back on Warframe after only a month.
I can't get over how close we were to never getting Warframe. If a single thing went wrong then odds are we never would've gotten such an amazing game.
I was there back then but i was in middle school let alone didn't have or know how to buy the founders pack, but i'm glad those who did saved the game when it was needed the most
Like many others I'm a former D2 player. Got tired of the stuff we've been served by Bungie lately and saw Warframe after the TGS presentation this last November I'm glad I gave it a try. Have not looked back since. DE has been great as of late (even with its rough stages before Rebb took the reins), and the game itself is amazing to play. The movement is like no other, and it's such a breath of fresh air having a game that is not actively beating you down with constant "tuning" patches that other GaaS games suffer from. Glad more people are discovering Warframe again because it deserves the success.
i love warframe ,skiping the farmville timers on crafting items and buying things for 15 cents from some free to play loosers made me understand that there is no integrity in owning anything , the economy is fake , and the players like being enslaved for 20 plat while shouting the free to play experience is great 😂😂😂😂
Never played the game, but I actually got choked up listening to this. It is heartwarming to know that a company like this is out there. This is how gaming should be. You've convinced me to push this game to the top of my backlog.
Warframe is what every live service game aims to be. A living, breathing ecosystem. One that actually FEELS like it is alive, like you are really part of this system. Part of this feeling comes from the Market system, and how I can literally turn into a merchant for a play session if I feel like it. This allows me to earn the in-game premium currency and buy real items (items you can only get with premium). It's such a refreshing change. I have given them real money in the past as well. Not because they asked, but because I truly value this game and how far it's come. It doesn't feel like I'm being taken advantage of. It feels like the game and I are growing together. Something I've never felt with another franchise.
I have gave DE real money because they have shown me they care about my time and energy, they also show that they care about you via Ordis, making him funny, relatable but also help you spot you've been playing for too long
Another game that follows suit in a similar fashion as Warframe when it comes to both building a small but engaged community as well as having arguably the best monetization across the industry is Deep Rock Galactic. As far as I'm aware, there is no premium currency ingame, all DLC is cosmetic only, and the seasonal passes are free - as well as entering an evergreen reward rotation after the season is over. There is no FOMO, there is no overmonetization, there is only a solid game with a fun community. Doesn't hurt that the tone of the game also is somewhat lighthearted. And as an IP, they even expanded upon it now, as they iirc released 2 more games in their IP-verse. Vastly different games, yet they have the full trust of the community, even if we don't like the games genrewise.
And then they added Riven mods, generally considered lootboxes in all but name (thankfully entirely unnecessary, but new players may not realize this), even by affiliated content creators (see Brozime's videos from around the time), or the entire, absolutely disgusting, 10th anniversary debacle. Still love the game, threw them a bunch of cash during the Founders days and have been playing pretty consistently since then, but DE isn't perfect, and it's up to the community to keep them accountable, but sometimes the money-making potential still wins out, as in the above examples.
I started playing 10 years ago, because I was bored and wanted some online game where I can spend a 30 minutes to an hour a day. I stayed for the story and because DE doesn't want to fleece me out of every penny I have. Korean FOMO slop comes and goes, Warframe is forever.
How on earth are you making any kind of progress only playing an hour a day? Warframe is one of the grindiest games in existence. There's a reason people call it Warfarm.
@@qu1253 it can be as grindy as you want it to be as long as you are having fun! I play warframe too and the grind is far better in warframe than other games i played for example Lost ark and blackdesert or even VINDICTUS!
@@qu1253 anyone can just do a couple of important things over 1-2 hours or less and then hop out they're gonna take longer to do everything but they'll still be able to do whatever they want eventually
@qu1253 warframe isn't that grindy theirs only like 4 game modes that reset weekly that you should do for progession after that everything else is just Mr and bulids and that's all optional most resources youll have a stock pile of by late game from just running missions
@@qu1253 Its not timegated, its finite, and its not fomo. And theyr not asking you to build a skyscraper in a month time every fucking month. You move as you please. And there is a 12 years of content THERE.
I am one of Warframe's Founders. We did our job, and DE lived. I have never stopped playing the game since i started back in 2013. This is the only online game i've ever given money to, and they deserve every single cent.
I bought the founders pack. GrandMaster that shit was 250 bucks. And Looking back at it...I honestly dont remember why I loved the game so much. Go search what warframe was back in 2012 and it was DRASTICALLY different from what we are playing today. Basic frames, basic abilities, Damage resistance wasnt even a thing in any frames kit. It was so much simpler. Im glad I spent money and time with DE. Plat discounts, Plat giveaways just for watching streams. like these things arent real with even triple A titles. DE cares more about keeping the players happy then anything else. I remember when mirage Prime came out and her Hall Of Mirrors split her into 4 copies but because she didnt BOW like in her trailer the community asked for the change. BOOM Mirage now bows to activate Hall Of Mirrors! Like its the attention to detail and the love that makes me willing to throw money at the screen and not feel like i should hate myself lol
what do you feel about the founders who quit the game and now shit on it because they had a bad experience with gen alpha coming into the game after new war?
I've played Warframe off and on for years and it's staggering how much it's grown. Went from just running and gunning Grineer in similar tilesets and while a lot of fun was a bit simple. Now it's an incredibly dynamic experience with more story depth and varied gameplay than I ever expected.
i'd like to question that "story depth" you've mentioned there: i've been playing warframe since autumn 2014, when archwing came out i onboarded every friend i could find to try this game out. i played it solely on the merits of it having good performance and mechanics (co-op play was a big plus for me), like a free-to-play toy. but i always found that claims of it having some sort of story as a very big stretch. it never had a coherent story from my pov, only snippets that barely made sense for the particular game mechanic introduced in that moment, which they promised to coerce into some coherent thread in some later updates. am i wrong?
The state of the gaming industry is pretty sad. A bunch of businessmen, with all their business school/experience, failing to realise that people WILL pay for a good product. One of the small things in the game is the vouchers for purchasing plat that one gets for merely logging in. They give 50% and sometimes 75%. The thing with these vouchers is that they are a HUGE incentive for players that are on the fence about paying. When they get one, they go "hey maybe I should drop some cash on plat, I got this voucher so I'm getting more value out of it". One thing about in-game-premium-currency in games is that they inherently have no real value, the only value is the price tag the developers put on them. As such, there is no real loss to give players vouchers from time to time to ENCOURAGE them to spend a little. Sure, a player is getting 50% more plat than they are paying for, so what? Plat isn't real currency that the studio is minting, there is no loss giving players a 50% voucher. These vouchers instead turn a non-paying player into a satisfied paying player. Ita mindboggling how the very concept of discounts for premium currency is so foreign for games when it should logically be in all games that has premium currency.
Fr, they really think "Oh, then they'll go for the newer skins with more effects and all the effort instead of paying it fully", like, what if instead of trying to rip off players with a 500$ skin (Looking at you Riot), you just give them a discount so they actually buy your premium currency instead of not buying at all bc it's too expensive?
The bad part is people WILL pay for a bad product as well all you need is a good trailer really , keeping a game running is prolly more of a hassle to them , they just want the intro buy in cost . Its a sick hustle / scam
And it isn’t random. I’ve noticed that when I log out for long periods of time they will almost always have a discount waiting for me. Perhaps it’s client based and they log how many purchases you make (I’m heavily invested in this game and have likely spent thousands over the near decade I’ve been playing) but regardless it does work as an incentive since I tend to hoard my Platinum between prime access drops.
I still remember, 6 years ago, with few hours of trying to figure out the game, when someone give items, warframe & weapon slots to me for free, without even want me to thank him. The single thing he want from me, to do the same when i could to another new player. Sometimes was the single reason to login, to answer to a call for help of a new player.
been there on both sides. as someone who received help from veteran players, and as a veteran who helped new players. cant play the game currently, but warframe is one of those games where you feel rewarded for helping others.
Same with me when I started. The guy gave me Frost Prime, and 200 plat. Helped me with a few missions before he went to work, and only asked that I return the favor to someone else. I have around 8 times so far, be it a frame, or a bundle.
Yeah, Warframe is truly unique in that its community genuinely loves the game, and love it when more people feel the same. I mean, how many other games can you think of that have veteran players supporting newer players because they genuinely want to, not because they benefit from it. Most games that don’t incentivize helping other players tend to result in players not doing so, and sometimes veteran players will even hate newer players because “they dont know how to play.” They’re new players, the frick do you expect? In some rare cases, it can even go beyond just veteran players hating new players, and the veteran players are actively hostile to new players, trying to drive them away and sabotage their enjoyment, like what happened with Armored Core 6. A lot of people really wanted to enjoy the game, and often they do enjoy it, but then they reach a point where they can’t keep progess because they’re new to the series and dont have the knowledge to get past it. The problem though, is that when those newer players reached that point, and they asked “hey, i really enjoy this game, but im stuck. How can I beat this part? Any suggestions?” the vast majority of the suggestions they get is “skill issue” or “get out of here journalist” or even “you cant beat this? Lmao get the frick out of here, you dont belong here. Never show yourself here again.” And they stop playing, because they’re actually being bullied for not being “good enough.” And I’m not just saying this, because this actually happened to me when I wanted to try out Armored Core 6. I _wanted_ to enjoy the game, but the veteran players actively told me that I didnt deserve to enjoy it, that I wasn’t wanted in the community, that I was effectively subhuman because I was struggling with something that the vast majority of people, including most of the people saying these things, had struggled with. Many of them know how hard said part was, but they refused to help others who were struggling because they all have the mindset of “i beat it, you cant, therefore im better than you, therefore you suck.” In short, dont be like the Armored Core 6 community. Dont shun someone because they ask for help. Instead, be like the Warframe community, and actually help when someone asks for it. Its one of the main reasons why Warframe has such a large, active community even 11 years after it launched, because new players actually feel welcomed and supported.
me and my friends have bought plat several times and I don't think we've ever regretted it, or felt angry because of the costs of some trading items. With time some of the rarest things have only become more accessible even to low-spenders and free to plays. The prices on arcane energize literally crashed once arcane dissolution was added, which was a HUGE change
Great commentary! My favorite part of your videos is... the silence. It gives us a moment to contemplate what you just said. Well edited and put together. Warframe vet here. Played across PS3, 4 and 5 with 3000 hours clocked. One of my favorite things to do in Warframe is to monitor the in game chat and look for new Tenno to take under my wing. 😊
I love how they put so much detail into the game, but I hate that some frames don't have more, namely Ember. My girl got 2 amazing skins and a rework, plus she's one of the first, give her a story!
28:26 this reminds me of when ULTRAKILL was first in early access and people discovered that using the parry mechanic when firing the shotgun you could punch your bullets to make it count as a parry. Instead of patching out the glitch, the dev gave it its own style rating called Projectile Boost and made it a proper mechanic
Path of Exile also is a great example of how to run a live service game and treat its players well. Particularly the new league. Its like a whole new game. I have years of playing both Warframe and PoE.
I'm a career Destiny players since it's Beta in D1. I hold world records for speedruns in 3 raids as well as Raid Race top 50 completions on Day 1 races as well as Top 100 Speeds and clears ranking my account had over 8k hours.....My account was banned last month because I used a macro to dismantle a currency item so I had more space for more items in my inventory, it takes 5 seconds of holding the delete key to dismantle 1. I had 999 so I used a macro to hold delete for me and ended up banned a week later. I received no help and no support once appealing my ban. Bungie literally said to fuck off. So here I am about to begin on Warframe. This video fills me with hope that I will enjoy my journey in Warframe as much as I did if not more on Destiny.
Dude, that's terrible. But I too gave warframe a try after 5k ish hours on d2, and yeah it's really fun. Only thing holding it back is crafting timers, but there's so much to do. You'll love it
@@g.ivan-center2647 Fantastic so far! It's a little confusing and overwhelming but I honestly love this, I can't believe I wasted so much time on Destiny when I could be playing Warframe!
Damn, that sucks. Well, welcome to Warframe. The begining might be confusing at first. You're kinda dropped in without much directions and you need to figure out what you need to do. Unlocking planets will be your first progression to focus. The crafting timer might seem like a big turn off at first, but once you realise there is so much stuff to do, you end up forgeting stuff in your foundry that are done crafting XD If you need help for anything, don't hesitate to ask in global chat or to go see a twitch streamer and ask for help.
I just recently got into warframe. I tried it once in 2015, but never made it past the first 30 minutes. Now I have over 100 hours in the past few weeks. I am so sorry that I never gave this game the time it deserved.
Don't be too hard on yourself. Warframe is vastly different today than it was in 2015, and there are valid reasons as to why it's so hard for new players to get started. Trying to get my friends into Warframe is like pulling teeth 💀
Perfect time brother, hope you got the free saryn prime from the Tennocon stream. Also, keep playing cuz next update they wil be giving out a free Caliban with his rework.
Do you want to know a silly story, but one that I love to use as an example when it comes to DE listening to players, no matter how small? In the update that released Chroma's Deluxe Skin, when you put the giant sword skin on Zenistar, it bugged, and became GIANT. But; They didn't think it was bad, in fact, they asked to leave this bug, because it was something funny, AND THEY SIMPLY DID IT! If you go to the game now, and put the Heavy Blade Dominion Skin on your Zenistar, you will see that it becomes MASSIVE! And this was intentionally requested by the community to leave it that way. The attention that DE gives to players, no matter how small, is almost surreal.
Your videos on Warframe convinced me to try the game for the first time nearly 2 months ago. 200 game time hours later, and I am absolutely in love with Warframe. Stay awesome, LD. Thank you again.
Shout out to the member of my Warframe clan who told me to check this video out. I've been a diehard Destiny 2 player since The Red War, and with everything that has gone on with the game in the recent years, (and especially in the last month-yikes) I finally made the conscious decision to try out Warframe and perhaps leave D2 behind. I am so thankful to have started this game and I am beyond myself on how in-depth the gameplay is, how smooth and solid the mechanics are, and how much fun it truly is. Build crafting has a whole new meaning when it comes to this game. Looking forward to seeing all that Warframe has to offer. Thank you for this video, made me feel a whole lot better about my decision to support this game and this company. Subscribed.
I had tried Warframe 3 times, with many years in between. It looked cool but never could understand what was going on/what to do and never went past the 1st mission. I always wanted to get into it but couldn't. But seeing videos from loyal fans and genuine reactions from, including you, and the community/playerbase interactions in the comments, made me want to give it one more try. I have been playing the game since your first video came out non stop. 4th time, it really clicked and I love it. Even spent money on it. Addicting game with a lot of love put into it. This game is a masterpiece and thanks for making me want to give it another chance.
Honestly, I got so addicted to this game because of what an insanely massive sandbox game it is. You're always searching for something new, a cool part here and another there, trying new builds and mods that create a whole new concept for a frame you've had for 90 hours. I love the customizable design of this game, how easy it is to connect to others, and most importantly, you can see the pay it forward attitude of this community. I never have to worry about being alone or isolated because im an introvert. People genuinely love and care about this game, i am so passionate about it and the incredible devs always working to make something beautiful even better. This game has something for everyone, genuinely! It's so good you can take a break for a couple months, come back, and rediscover that passion all over again. Thanks to every single one of you in this game who's taken your time to bring up the next tennos. I love you guys. Best place to be
Not only that, but she experiments with it first was duveri which was mixed.Then she hit us with stalker's back story which was well received and made people cry.Then 1999 straight up hit us with a boy band which the player base absolutely love. She out here, going. "Good luck figuring out what I want to put next"
@@Rhino-Prime I just hope their weaboo tendencies don't get in the way as at times it felt like whole plot points and tropes come from the trashy anime of today which I have grown to loathe for various reasons. They make it known they're big anime fans time and time again and much of that bleeds over into the storytelling which can be mixed at times.
@@Ziko577Well their story as of right now doesn't seem generic. Whereas other anime tends to be like "power of friendship! Blah blah blah". Warframe story is about taking away the pain of something that is ugly. Which ngl as of right now is pretty unique
Don't forget Tennogen. A system in which unbelievably talented members of the community create skins for Warframes, weapons etc. By buying them you not only support DE but primarily the Creator! So money FROM the community, FOR the community! I love it so much ❤
fun fact: there's a self taught 3d artist from the philippines who got his sister through college and even funded renovations for his parents' house with the money he earned in the tennogen program
The reason most developers don't follow Warframe's design is because of how greedy many publishers are; they're more than happy to erode player's good will to make a few extra bucks
warframe monetization is indirect slavery that is justified only by people who know nothing better and think selling items for 20 cents worth of platinum is good because you can grind the premium currency withouth paying , this is the worst way to make pay to skip content ,why? because instead of buying from a shop you are buying hundreds of hours from other players and is bad for the economy long term , nothing has any large worth because anyone can just swipe and own it , i would rather a thousand times play a game like POE that has everything for free and you can spend 30 dollars in convenience storage once you think you will spend more time playing the game and have it forever than have people straight make a game not even have a decent economy because they want more money with pay to skip currency
I'm not sure you how long you have been playing Warframe but I think it's important to understand that updates were slow and lower quality before DE got Tencent money. Also DE has a much much smaller pay roll than most of the companies you are speaking about. It's easy to just assume greed but I think it's important not to go too far in one direction
@@MrRafagigapr bad take, when i was new i would crack relic to earn plats and skip the timers, it would only take like 40 minutes, this was when i was new but in end game it's even easier as i have better stuff to sell.
God I love Warframe it’s such a phenomenon in the gaming industry, with their loyal fans and devs who look out for their community I’m so glad to see Warframe thrive and get recognized. I’m happy I started playing this game in 2016 ever since then I’ve fallen in love with the community the gameplay and lore🙏🏽🙏🏽.
I recently passed my User Experience exam in my gaming university course and the player (the user) is what everything should gravitate around. From when you first hear about the game to what feedback they get and how they talk about it to other people. Pablo has been focusing on User Experience himself, what we know as Quality of Life changes, and it's been having such a good feedback. Warframe devs has been constantly addressing and talking to the community and I'm so glad of that. The involvment with the community is something so good for the game ❤ Edit: thank you so much for your insights throughout the video as well as the ending segment, really pierced through my heart
Warframe has been in my game rotation since 2013. I am a proud founder. This game as come so far, and it’s still so fun to get together with some friends and chat while we obliterate stuff. Looking forward to Sevagoth Prime!
Imagine family fun with Wf. Have 2 kids and you can go full squad. Have a giant board in the middle of the house, writing what you need to farm or such.
As a long time player x founder supporter I'm so glad of what warframe has become throughout the years, sure I do miss the whole stealth ninja aesthetics they had back then but I know DE had to adapt to survive and if they didn't imo we wouldn't have such an amazing game we have today. Its honestly one of the only few games I happily come back from a short/long hiatus, this is a game that keeps on giving and you'll never doubt that something fresh is always on the horizon when it comes to this game. Its been an amazing 11 years for you all and I'm glad to be part of the wf community.
Warframe is what happens when passionate and talented artists and developers who care about their creations and their community are not forced to prioritize money over everything (just look at the interviews of the ex-devs and artist at Blizzard and Riot); and in return players reciprocate by supporting them and their creations through every circumstance for years and years. Honestly, I love Warframe, even though I have been playing it for only a year, it has become my favorite game ever gameplay-wise and it's worldbuilding is absolutely stellar. All of this, the community, the developers, the passion, the quality, and so much more is similar to that of the Project Moon games and their community for how good they are, and that is an incredibly high standard to reach.
Since '15, I've bought several prime access packs to support DE. A $50-ish pack once a year or so is like purchasing any other new game, but I'm supporting the same studio.
prime pack was painful especially for the full set, i ended up only buying hydroid prime pack full price, then later chroma prime pack at regional pricing, bcs the prices didn't made sense before regional pricing
Honestly dont even mind spending money on this game, I’ve been playing it so long and it’s only gotten better over time. Also helps the community is lovely compared to other online games.
Farming Prime parts from Void Relics while listening to this in the background, I honestly dont think I disagreed with anything said here was pretty much just a "Yeah that sounds about right". Edit: I forgot to mention this bit but what keeps me coming back dispite having 3000-4000 hours played is that there is always something new to grind out, and even when im done grinding for the day sometimes I go to the railjack to veil proxima and attack the Sentient Murex just because or maybe I'll just chill in an open world or I'll replay a quest with a different loadout to see the difference. There really is no end to the fun you can have with this game with the proper mindset.
I agree with all your points, as someone who sunk 2K+hrs into Destiny 2, then quit when Crapfall was released, I started playing Warframe because I needed a cure for that interplanetary grind, Warframe accomplished that for me, I hated that in D2 you needed to grind every week in order not to be left behind, meanwhile in Warframe I can stop whenever I want, come back months later and pick up where I left of, also Bungie has a nasty habit of removing content that we already paid for, while Warframe you can play the entire game from start to the latest update. Personally I did not care how good the Final Shape was, I refuse to pay Bungie a single dime, plus I've been on Linux for a while now, another factor preventing me from falling into temptation LOL EDIT: I forgot to mention that when I started playing D2 when it arrived on Steam, many times while doing strikes, I would get insulted because I had crappy gear and was clueless of what to do against champions in the game, meanwhile in Warframe I ask for help in the global game chat and I get several answers, even more if I go to the Discord channel... That's the type of community I appreciate, I am not saying there's no trolls or griefers in WF but I still haven't come across one in the nearly 900hrs I have put into the game.
Honestly I'm right behind you I'm going to finish up this last expansion play this last season and then on tapping out of destiny 2 don't even care what the other two seasons are I don't want to get rehooked on it again. Most I might do after that is go back to D1 and finally fully finish the game (some rise of iron stuff I haven't finished) but myself and my buddy is in my clan want to move on to a game that has a lot less fomo than destiny 2 and Warframe is looking pretty good right now
I quit destiny 2 at shadowkeep. Imagine buying a dlc for 30$ and finished it in fxxking 5 hours and also they decided to expire weapon you grinded for dozens of hours because they want to sell new contents. It's just the worst paying experience I even had. Not again, goodbye destiny 2. If you buy platinum with 30$. You could probably get dozens hours of content in warframe. And about map or quests? DE didn't even ask you to pay for these.
@@mmis1000 dude, I am leaving destiny too . Their bullshit is getting too much to handle . But you genuinely missed out and left too early. You have like atleast 1000 hr of epic content left .final shape is their final dlc. I'll complete this session then put it to it's deathbed .. like most destiny player will .
The coolest thing about the playerbase, and something I strive to do, is that people will literally take the time out of their day to bus you over to a node on the game map, help you complete the mission, and give you years of their knowledge crystalized into a palatable form in the chat box (All while annihilate the entire map likes its nothing). They will even give you rare mods that dont drop except from end game content, or require farming for a good week before they are even accessable to purchase in game, for free. Like, straight up just give you some warframe ability augment mods that would have cost you 10-20 plat on the market or a week long grind that requires premium items to complete, for free no questions asked.
Warframe is literally the nice guys of the MMORPG genre, yeah they have their mishaps from here and there but the reason why they are so beloved is because they are an actual company that from the beggining has placed the player satisfaction and interest infront of anything else. Just make money by doing a good product and being nice to people is all that we need, thats it.
@@therightperspective8690 Look up what MMO means kiddo; A game doesn't have to be like WoW or FF14 in terms of "players per instance" to be an mmo. Use the brain you claim to have.
What's even crazier is some of the best gear in the game: lich/sisters weapons etc. you can't buy. Been playing for 9 years and Steam tells me I've spent around $900+ dollars, and I, like everyone else: can access everything; The only thing that's locked out of the game are founders cosmetics, which is honestly fair, they deserve it!❤
It's been years since I've played, truth be told I've forgotten loads of how it was. But as soon as you utter the words "the second dream" memories come back. It's like you opened a box hidden somewhere deep inside my memories.Time to install the game again I guess...
GGG otherwise known as Grinding Gear Games (developer of Path of Exile) is another great example or perhaps an even better example of developers who just love their game and players and genuinely want their game to grow and expand their community as a whole.
GGG made a decent game, but they still suffer from some of the same issues as Warframe, just not to such an extent. Farming specific items has become a bit easier, and with in game trade using in game currency you don't pay real world money for, period, it's a bit easier to get what you need. The league mechanics and content updates sometimes stick around so there's only a _chance_ at FOMO, but FOMO for specific items DOES exist, but again not as bad. They do try to form an addiction by implementing certain elements, and most time gates are for player protection (IE to prevent you from doing nothing but heist or delve, etc. and getting bored of it), and not as a means to prevent players from over farming a certain mechanic. What GGG fails at is making a game that is approachable, or remotely playable for casual players. A large majority of players do not make their own build, and a majority of the people that say they do are following a build guide but modifying it, respeccing is prohibitively costly to discourage creativity and self build attempts. Everybody relies on an aspie that enjoys spread sheets to spend hours hammering out a build on paper, I know, I am that aspie.
@AimbotFreak you are so right about warframe lacking FOMO. I took a 2 year break from gaming, only playing fallout 76 occasionally in that time. A buddy asked me if I'd jump on and see what was new on warframe about a month ago, and I picked right back up where I left off, hunting down frames I didn't have yet and casually grinding out standing with the various factions, and the only thing that had changed in those 2 years was that more content had been added.
Then there is NoMansSky, it has been improved massively over the years. Just like wf and PoE, it gets constant free updates and improvements. Sure, it's not perfect, but it has been slowly becoming something incredible
Honestly, I can't wait for PoE2. PoE1 just has so much bullshit going on with it, that I actually stopped playing it. PoE2 is going to be MILES better.
I have decided to spend money on Warframe after 200 hours of gameplay.. Incidentally it was when i stopped playing solo, joined a clan, started trading... and finished Second Dream.
There are no fans of warframe, just addicts. People that can't see the mechanics that they normally hate being used to make the game worse right in front of them.
@@SherrifOfNottingham And yet people keep coming back every update and the game constantly gets praise for its gameplay, art direction, f2p model, etc... I don't know if you're trolling but I've never seen anyone so dedicated to spouting provably false vitriol at one of the rare good f2p games on the market.
@@SherrifOfNottingham like? The player-driven market fixes basically every issue that F2P brings, other than time investment which... oh no, we have to play more of the game we love! Also warframe has an INSANELY good reward pace, even lategame.
Honestly, Warframe is so good that even though its a grinding hell, finger-breaking (from the amount of times you'll bullet jump), waiting for things to craft simulator - its an experience you'll enjoy no matter how casual you are, yes sure there is a learning curve you have to get to, but with the amount of people that would be willing to help you out is insane. Its both accessible and fun that i forgot i sank 200 hours already in and it felt like just your average 30h experience.
I was there in the alpha days of warframe. i remember how dark warframe was and how terrifying it is to first time fighting the infested swarm in tight corridors. and then there was the founder's program. im so glad to be part of the founder's program and see warframe like my baby grew up so much to now being an identity and valued by gamers. I'm a happy warframe parent
First Descendant is guilty of this. Not to mention their base skin is not dyeable at all, only bought skins are. They are not following the blueprint of WF at all.
In my opinion, catalysts and reactors are the biggest L in Warframe. You need them for most builds to deal with the steel path later on, but having more mod space lets you tell if a warframe or weapon is worth investing in. I've seen people dismiss good weapons because they thought they were annoying to use or didn't do enough damage due to having limited space. You can earn them, but they're very slow to come by, and the nightwave prices are RIDICULOUS as well as having to compete with other useful items for the same battle pass currency.
This particular point I partially mitigate by not using Catalysts on weapons that are going to receive a prime version or that are going to receive a kuva/tennet/coda (provisional name for the infested equivalent) version.
i feel this. maybe i just don't grind nightwave hard enough but god reactors are a nightmare for me. they're literally THE thing that broke my f2p streak and made me buy plat (granted, with a 50% off coupon). i think mod slots in general could be looked into for a slight rework, especially regarding augment mods. some of them really should just be part of the kit, unlockable through upgrades, or have a separate slot/multiple slots for like exilus slots.
The good thing is, you can farm some prime parts and sell them for plat. Lots of people who have never invested a single cent in this game, earning plat solely from trading. If you need something, try to sell something for plat. Everything goes.
I saw how player friendly the games shop was and Instantly dropped 60$ in the first few hours to support to game and was more than happy for the value of my money, first purchase “- Titania Prime from the resurgence without knowing anything about Titania. Months later , she’s one of my fav.
I took a break from Warframe for a couple years after i did all the content there was at that time, aka Eidolons. I came back a week ago to so many activities to do, quests, Railjack,kuva, pets,weapon and frames collecting and much more. And the currency you can trade for in game or buy with real money, but not necessarily. Needless to say i took to playing it again,leaving Destiny 2 due to me not affording the last dlc and the dungeon keys,which gated content from me and was frustrating. The community of Warframe is also a key reason i came back to it, there will always be a Tenno willing to help with either missions or gear, which is invaluable for a beginner or a returning player.
Man that introduction was amazing, too bad you lost me right afterwards with you comparing Warframe to World of Tanks and getting sponsored by them. World of Tanks is the exact opposite of what we want F2P games to be like! World of Tanks is an incredibly predatory, micro-transaction intensive game, not at all the example set by Warframe to the point where I have no idea why you even brought that up. I mean yeah sponsors are sponsors, but if you're talking about Warframe being the 1 good example of the garbage F2P live service model than for the love of god don't bring World of Tanks into this discussion!
@@grannde_ I've seen cynical/goofy/etc sponsorships on TH-cam and this wasn't it. This sounded like he was being genuine, much more than he needed to be considering it was a sponsorship, a fact that I did acknowledge btw.
@@riplix20 yeah obviously a joke but he said it serious And dumb mfs believe he’s serious, world of tanks has no relation to Warframe in any way and came years after it, people are just dumb.
3:55 "Dark Sector E3 2005" is the correct B-roll footage to use here. 14:55 🤓☝Uh technically the best weapons in the game are incarnon evolutions and lich weapons which can only be earned by playing and can't be purchased. Even if you trade for someone else's lich you have to fight it.
You what?! I've never traded for lich before. I didn't know you have to fight it, to force it to fulfill it's contractual obligation to serve you. That's mess up. But somehow, it make sense in a way, and it's inline with their characters.
my brother got back into it after a VERY long haitus. I informed him of incarnon evolutions. He asked if Dread had one, he was delighted to know that answer was yes.
I've been playing warframe since it first dropped on xbox one back in 2014, and one of the best things about the game even back then was its community full of people that wanted to help new players, because warframe was even more dense and obtuse back then than it is today. I still fondly remember being a little MR-1 baby volt in his default colors with my MK-1 paris and my Bo and timidly telling a guy who was MR-18 (highest MR at the time) that I wanted frost but didn't have the plat to buy him, and that vet telling me I could earn him for free (i just had to press a button to tab over to the blueprint screen to buy his blueprint for credits back then, which was not intuitive at all for a baby tenno and I'm so glad they changed it lmao), and then promptly taking me to mars to get frost from lech kril and taking me orokin cell hunting after that (which I also thought I had to buy at the time because nowhere did it say otherwise). The community is primarily the reason I stayed, because without that help I know I would have given up back then. Their kindness is something I pay forward even today by helping out baby tennos from time to time, and the community remains one of the strongest aspects of this game, imo.
Well, this guy knows what he's talking about. I played Warframe when it first came out, and I played it for about 3 years. When I reached an acceptable percentage of game completion, I started helping newcomers, clan members, etc., just as this guy describes. Eventually, I felt like there was nothing new to do, so I left. Little did I know that when I decided to leave, they were starting to flood the game with absolutely amazing content like The Second Dream and others. I came back a few times over the years, and the last time I played was in 2018/2019, until I started again a month ago... OMG, the amount of new content I have to unlock even when I have 1000hs played, is OVERWHELMING. This game is just AWESOME.
it genuinely baffles me how people think that warframe is P2W, then you ask how much the guy played the game and its not even outside of the vor's quest
@@owensparks5013 Back in 2013, I believed in the games vision. I bought into the Grandmaster Founder with faith that this game would eventually reach it's greatness. To see it become like this is one of the few times in my life that I finally made a good investment. Glad to see it reach even greater heights as the years go by. Gonna be getting myself a Lotus tattoo soon to celebrate
Excellent video, and you are completely right. When I bought platinum (due to their very gracious discounts you can get) I said to myself, "I'm spending this money genuinely because I like the game, and never feel pressured to spend money." I gave them money, literally to support them. Getting cosmetics for it is like a bonus at that point. Especially given the hundreds of hours they have given me for FREE. Literally, play Warframe. In fact, thanks Legendary Drops. Im jumping back into Warframe again. Its been a while. I got a lot to do.
33 minute video I kept having to rewind, took me an hour. Thanks man I really enjoyed it, and your cat might have either a flashlight or became an elder god.
I also love how in the Devshorts and Prime Time streams they often bring up other games they are playing. They can only do that because they have made a game that respects players time and let's the player go and play other games (if they want to). The developers at DE love playing games and want to make a game for other people who like playing games which means you need to have time to play other games and not force you to only play one like a lot of Live Service games try and force you to do
This is a really, really good point. The amount of times I've heard Reb or Megan talk about BG3 or Elden Ring or...god I think I remember them talking about spending a weekend playing DOOM 2016? That's something you'd never see the community representatives of another MMO do on their official company streams, but DE does it every week and it clearly hasn't put a dent in the player count. But that's the thing about DE. They have confidence in their product, which they've earned. When you know you've got the best hamburgers in town, you can compliment the local Mexican joint without fear of losing all your customers because the next time they want a burger, they'll be back. And when they're eating their tacos and enjoying them, they'll be thinking of you. Of course, you have to actually make a good product first. That seems to be where most other studios fail, heh.
Honestly, I would love if Fighter Frame became a more polished and more prominent part of Warframe. I've always thought that It would be awesome if DE made an ARPG with the frames as the classes. The overall concept they've come up with is great and would make a perfect drop in for so many other genres.
Dude we all wish frame fighter could have been more. Or the k-drive needing a movement rework, or conclave getting actually good game modes like nechramech vs nechramech or corpus vs grineer. They have alot of stuff that's puddle deep that we'd all love to see taken further. Like railjack being taken openworld to go planet to planet.
@@stemaster Agreed. Frame Fighter has just been around so long and I'm personally a huge fighting game fan. So I got extremely excited when they released it and have been at least mildly disappointed at every update that didn't include a more polished version. I also don't play conclave because it just feels so erratic. Personally I think that the movement of Warframe is a key selling point, but putting it in PVP is a bit much. If they removed bullet jumping I would probably play it more. I also think that a necramech or operator only mode (without invulnerability or void dash) would be a suitable solution.
DE just abandons a lot of cool additions to the game Remember when nightwave with its episodes was a thing people loved it I mean the grind was a little bit much but it’s warframe the grind is the game Saturn six wolf was cool as f*** And don’t even get me started on lunaro my favorite side content of the game which didn’t really go anywhere cuz DE didn’t expand on it I’m not sure why they don’t continue it But it’s probably cuz they have to focus on the next mainline update for the game and their staff not as big but it would be great if we could have just an entire year of fixing and expanding these side contents just so there’s more to do in the game than killing hordes.
@@whysoserious4274 Yeah, it's probably the same reason they dropped the raids. Adding complexity to the modes that people don't play as much just means more work on the backend to ensure they still function with each patch. They now have a vision for the main game and what they want it to become. Constantly maintaining things that a few thousand people play just cannot compare with the main game. Sadly once they start putting effort into the little side projects will probably be around the same time the main game starts to stagnate again.
26:20 Ayy that's my hollowframe poster in the back!! Such a prime example of how well DE (especially Rebb) treats their community, showcasing the art and creations of their players at every turn and giving the playerbase as much attention as they would like in return. I was invited into the creator program last December and I still can't get over it, from the direct and casual lines of communication with members of the team to the free Tennocon VIP passes and so so much more it's actually nuts. Truly an amazing studio and an amazing game ❤
I'm not sure where I would be without this stupid game lol, I'm an art major in college rn but I don't think I could've maintained my love for art and improved as much as I have without such a lovingly made game and community like Warframe
These "game devs" are full of s... Imagine an incompetent bricklayer, he hates building houses and hates his customers, one day he becomes unemployed or can't get freelance work anymore and the problem is that the customers don't like the houses he builds? what a thing huh.
I think if anything any "legitimate" qualms a dev has with a player base can come down to the fact that games are as much of an art form media as books or movies. Where you're making artistic choices because you want to to convey something in the implementation of a game, or make some sort of statement. That said, being a subjective topic means there is no right way to do it and that can mean alienation when something doesn't land. No one is obligated to appreciate your *bIg PiCtUrE gRanD vIsIoN* But when there's objectively bad things though? Gaslighting justifications will never work. If there's a limitation in the engine or a legal restriction just come out and say it. Sure, you'll get armchair devs when any excuse sounds technical, but if they don't know what they're doing it'll be easy to dispute and if not, well you might have actually learned something from someone and they may have fixed it for you there in that forum post, send that dude a care package. Guess what I'm saying is, yeah, it's pretty wild when you fuse technology and art, and end up with people that are fall very flat with one, the other, or both and assume they have enough authority in them to need little to no improvement in either facet.
@@qu1253 heh, yeah huh? Pilestedt is like their Rebecca, but I'm getting the impression that there's some internal disconnect that allows these things to keep happening, which is a shame because he seems every bit as passionate as Rebb is.
Man, I really appreciate the lack of cuts in your monologues. You've got an uncanny knack for following a train of thought for minutes on end without mincing words or repeating yourself - truly a focused dude who knows what he wants to say and how to say it. Also love your nuanced takes on the shit you talk about. Hope this channel keeps growing like it deserves to. Keep up the good work, dude.
I've bought about 80 dollars of plat, and I know a friend who bought 100 dollars worth. For both of us, it's not because we needed to, far from it. It's cause we love the shit out of this game.
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world of warships promised money to Ukraine where is it wargaming
world of tanks is a perfect example of everything wrong with gaming
There is a bit of a irony of you getting sponsored by World Of Tanks.. Which nowdays is very much P2W trash game with studio which wants to squeeze out all the money remaining from this game
P2W trash
dude! I thought you would put out a baldur's gate 3 anniversary video. money on the table!
Other Devs: Buy our battle pass!
Nora Night: "Hey there, Dreamers. You hearin' me?"
Did I hear a rock and stone?!
Just a bit of grinding and hey champ thats ALOT of valuable stuff you didnt pay for you earned for yourself. And Warframe slots are worth the cost sometimes
ROCK AND STONE BROTHA@@tkhunter4999
At this point Nora Night isn't really a battle pass
It's a challenge pass that has a story sometimes
@@dizzyheadsit’s also totally free which is sick. It’s literally just bonus loot. Also totally got added to deal with alertium but ya know
Warframe is a once in a lifetime game where the player actively wants to give them money while the game itself asks for nothing but to have fun
@TheWickedgit same
That is exactly how i feel. I used to buy the big packs of platinum when i got the -75% coupon from login rewards (not every time but often) and just buy every cosmetic from the market (other than tennogen).
Warframe never made me feel that i have to or need to spend but made me to want to spend. Purely out of satisfaction for playing a good game and wanting to support the developers. :)
oh yea after 100 hours when I first started, I wanted to give them my money because it was the best 100 hours I've ever had in this type of game.
Warframe and it's community has earned my loyalty.
2 of those.Warframe and PoE
Platinum being tradable honestly a huge gamechanger.
People who had time to play and farm rarer stuffs have their time spent valued more when people wants to exchange their spare rare loots for platinum. It's rare to get our time wasted on the game valued let alone allowing u to earn premium currency. And for those who bought platinum and spent it on trading not only you making profit for yourself u also respect others' time spent, its basically an efficient work environment.
Well said, most ppl are willing to give you deals and you should be willing to do the same in return
Exactly, I have spent a fair amount on the game but I have also traded enough to save myself from the cruelty of the rng gods. When something new comes out I usually farm most or sometimes all but if I need or want I can use plat to get that one last annoying piece that won't drop.
best part is selling the plat for cash, its against the rules but a black market is proof of a good game
@@Magnus_FrausI used to know a guy who made a full-time job out of it his name was jamrock I don't know if he still does it but he's a cool ass Jamaican dude if you find him he could hook you up
Yes, in combination with the 75% off discounts you get randomly it's very easy to get all the things you want with not a lot of money
Ain’t no way you started off talking about how devs want to extract every last bit of money from their players then dropped a WoT ad on us.
guy need to pay the bills lmao
Yea being a long time WOT player, seeing Wargaming sponsor this video was quite hilarious XD
Bro gotta eat
Right, oh yeah now take me seriously lol..
@@Y4ngCP then he can get a job instead of being a lazy ytuber crying about muh morals and greed in the gaming industry while gladly taking money from a game/company that tries to milk it's players all the time
DE has made some money with Warframe, but the reason why AAA companies don't try to make games like Warframe is that they don't want to make "some money", they want **ALL** of the money, they want **EVERY. LAST. BIT. OF. THE. MONEY.**
They will use every single predatory monetization under the sun if they have to, and they don't mind that they launch 10 failed live services, if they can get ONE to work. They will never try to make the next Warframe because they're too busy trying to make the next Fortnite or the next League of Legends.
And to quote someone as an addendum: if the can't have ALL of the money, they don't want ANY of it.
They will shut down a project that doesn't earn millions in the first week. They will shut it down for costing five cents more to maintain than they wanted it too.
Translation - Most companies fall into the trap that their primary motivation is money and growth, not taking care of their employees, and ensuring the game is worth playing. This motivation is a consistent divider between amazing games, and terrible games.
@@Makeitworx As the old proverb has it: money is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master.
But players also generally fail to realize that this whole making a shit game and selling said game works. Everyone sees that the player numbers drop and they eventually shut down the servers, but they always wonder how come there's another shit game coming out again. Because it sells, and it sells like hot bread almost all the time. They're making profits 10 times that they invested in it, do you really think they give a damn if tomorrow nobody is playing their game? That's the skeleton crew's job if they even bother to allocate any extra resources to maintain the game.
You can't have a business based entirely on your communities love, there's a reason there's only DE, GGG, GSG, Riot and a few others that are successful yet don't earn that much (except Riot of course). It's way easier and ten times more profitable to make another shit CoD every two years because you've got the normies stuck in a cycle that don't know other games exist or don't care.
Not to mention that in order to keep a player base interested you always have to innovate. Why do you think Warframe has 100 different systems and how damn many game modes that were just slapped onto the main game? Why do you think PoE keeps making Leagues where they have systems that are a completely different game genres within the game? This takes effort, resources and time; why would I do any of that when I could just make more slop that my normie community will just eat it all up every time I release the same thing with mildly improved graphics and make absolute bank off it every year.
Online discourse means nothing when your audience isn't terminally online and is busy with school, work or family and only have 2 hours per day to relax.
@@harbl99 So very true!
"a rogue like, a... Fighting game..?"
Bro hasn't found the flappy bird game yet I see
Wait till he discovers frame fighters...
@@kaneasax4923 thst's the fighting game
@@kaneasax4923 frame fighter is a joke; it never was "good" but after removing bullet jump why even bother?
at least with bullet jump it was like rock'em sock'em robots; with grapple used to counter bullet jump pokes... now its just walking toward an awaiting kick to the other side of the screen (but i bet Mag is still one of the best Characters because of pull's auto combo). her and ash always were pretty good.
wait till he finds wyrmius.
This right here is actually what made me quit eventually. The game isn't bad, but it's full of bugs and glitches, but they seem to focus more on adding new things than fixing these. And what's more is that so much of the new stuff seems to be actively trying to minimize the stuff you've collected by adding game modes and quests where you can't use any/most of it. Then they announced that the main team left to work on something else and they were going to add a roguelike mode as the main content update (a game genre most known for having to start over and over again), and that was the last straw for me.
To all you old tenno..
Remember when extra revives cost plat?
..i 'member.
Back in my day we had to copter to get around the map.
@@Sal-fg3rs Remember Rage + Quick Thinking cheese :)
I miss my op orthos prime spin to win
Naramon shadow step
When you had to slot your warframe powers just like mods
One of my core warframe memories was a pop-up I received in-game after queueing up a few new frames at the forge. At first I thought it was just some ad or event card like Destiny 2 would notify you about, but after a quick skim that notion was disproven. It was a request for a survey that opened with a single question: "Do you feel like Warframe respects your time"?
I've legitimately never had a game, let alone a live service game at that, show care and consideration for it's players on such an individual level. It could have said nothing and I would have gone on just fine. But it didn't. It actually made an effort to give me the means to review and communicate, even on some distant level, with the game devs. Being given the opportunity to be heard like that made such an incredible impression.
I dunno anyone else find the actual gameplay super boring?
@@numberonedad Not really, on my end. The gameplay itself is quite good! But the grind structure and the storytelling left a lot to be desired for me. Not that they're innately bad, but I prefer other settings and grinds that feel more rewarding than WF's
@@SuperDestuction yeah something about the speed and physics of combat didn't click with me, felt trivial
@@numberonedad Like with many games it's just something you either love or don't. I enjoy Warframe and love what DE has done with it, but I don't play the game all the time because I get bored of grinding easily. Come back every so often to see what's happening, play for a bit then leave it.
Still cant believe rebecca went from an intern to the main director for warframe
Well I can't believe I knew her from a meme before for working for DE
@@saschaberger3212bruh let me see that
What’s the name of the meme!!!
@@saschaberger3212 what meme???
@@whysoserious4274 it's a video where she almost says the N word but stops herself noticing it.
@@saschaberger3212 Happy Birthday Nick Ur!!!
Imagine starting off as an intern at some silly video game company and find yourself the creative head of their biggest selling title about ten years later.
Wasn't that how Miyazaki (Dark souls) started?
@@timmyda1st191 Yea, he started from the literal bottom and made it to the very top
Reb’s the best.
Goals
She's also the voice of the Lotus, our space mom
"Warframe is not what I expected"
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"Warframe is getting weird"
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"Warframe is a game that cares to be good"
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"Warframe is a wake up call"
Few months later...
"Warframe saved my failing marriage "
ahhahaha
These YT titles are ridiculous
@@ilyaas_masha7071 Warframe managed to bring back heavy rains in my village after months of drought
I'm pretty sure it ends more marriages than it has saved.
But good attempt.
"Warframe set me on the path to godhood"
"players want to support the game because they love the game" this is very real, I live in Brazil here with a discount the platinums (game money) cost 400 reais for a package of 4000 platinums something around 90 dollars, with a discount of 75% managed to pay just 100 reais for the same 4000 platinum, for us it is extremely expensive to spend 30% to 40% of our payment in a virtual currency, yet I and many other Brazilians spend our hard-earned money on the game because we feel the company's love for game and the affection for the community that no other company has for its communities.
26:56 I mean DE literally hold a wholeass convention for a full weekend to celebrate the players. They put in the time, money, energy, and effort to make a wholeass yearly convention that celebrates Warframe and its players. If that isn’t proof enough of how much DE cares about its players and its game the I don’t know what will
Literally This game has its Own Convention Long before it even got close to where it was now. That's how popular it is, yet noone speaks of it and it is largly ignored by the larger AAA reviewers and journalists.
@@BlueBDconsidering how most mainstream game journalism is, maybe that is a good thing. Many a franchise has been ruined by its own popularity, just look at Star Wars, Star Trek, etc. When something gets big enough, people will try to ruin it for their own gain
@@CrusadatronRings of god damn power.
It's a blast too! Unreal time but getting a lot busier year after year. With popularity comes discovery and thus more attendance. This year was roouugghhh for lineups lol.
@@jamestallon3859 lol I bet, I’ve never had the chance to go but I would love to some day. It looks like a blast
It's been a treat watching you start as a suspicious player burned by other F2P games slowly turn into a Warframe fanatic.
Warframe is literally the model used by Diablo Immoral
Anybody praising that shit needs to understand what a game designed by psychologists ACTUALLY means.
Doesn't matter how "fun" the game is to you, understanding that it's manipulating you into enjoying a game that is engineered to be as dull as possible to extend playtime, it uses mechanics that everybody panned Dungeon Keeper 3 for. It uses Fomo mechanics to wrap you up into the game, want a specific frame? Better grind it out before it gets vaulted, you know an entire mechanic used by Gacha games to make you pay money for it.
I'm so tired of people praising this game when it's literally THE example of all of the things gamers hate, just made in a way to where none of the mechanics are so bad that anybody "cares"
People are too stupid to realize that this game is literally everything we hate about Diablo Immoral, just engineered in a way to where nobody notices.
@@SherrifOfNottingham No base warframe is time gated, and the prime versions you're referring to are on a rotation between times that they're available through relics and are always available if there are people ready and willing to sell their sets.
Then there's me who started as a Warframe fanatic way back in 2013 before quitting after years of complaints and community requests going unanswered (and their big hyped melee 3.0 turned out to be a gigantic nothing burger).
@@SherrifOfNottinghamBlah blah blah 😅 sorry dude 😎 🚬 for me it's not the same 😅 cry cry like a butterfly 🦋 😅 now I hate people that hate Warframe but prise other games that are shit to me like halo 😅 holy here in Mexico they live that game but for when I try it I feel the most boring shit I ever play in my life 🧬 it's feels Soo boring that my ancestors want to die again and again 😂😂 no offense but for me most of the games are shit the stale and boring 😅 not every game some are very fk good 👍🏽 but most are trash 🗑️ . And for people that don't understand Warframe I mean all people are not born in the same guy 😅 so don't worry there's gonna be another game more easy for you to understand 😅
@@SherrifOfNottingham your singular directly voiced criticism towards Warframe is completely invalid, because that's simply not how it works.
The regular non-prime variants of weapons and frames are never vaulted. Prime variants yes, do get vaulted... after a year instead of gacha's typical couple weeks. On monthly rotation there's a Prime Resurgence event which soft unvaults 2 prime frames and their associated weapons. But even while it's vaulted that doesn't preclude you access because trading exists; something that doesn't in any gacha ever because that stops people spending more money to get their own copy of the hit new thing.
And even then, the prime variants of frames have almost unnoticeable differences to the regular variant, with prime variants of weapon only marginal improvements for a few extra percent of DPS. I have plenty of weapons and frames that I could have gotten the prime for but I simply didn't care because it doesn't matter. If it bothers you that much, don't give it the time of day.
You compare Warframe to Diablo Immortal, yet Warframe doesn't let you spend $2000 rolling upgrades for a chance at an actual improvement when 99% of the time you're going to get garbage. You would be hard pressed to find a slot machine in Warframe, because it doesn't exist.
Fashion Frame is the end game.
Respect the driiiiip. The drip links in chat was the best addition. I love seeing what people throw together.
@@Clockwork-Heart me who hits random on all my loudouts lol
Nha you've merely reached mid game, Crayon frame is the real end game, buying every deluxe skin so you can make it all in RGB
@JohanMood You fool. Not only are you wrong, you're double wrong.
1) That's still Fashion Frame.
2) Shade Frame is the true final form, wherein your color scheme, and even the picture edits you make, all stylize white to black shading, rather than any color.
Fr fr
16:59 - The fact that the weapons and warframes need so much time is not a real problem as there is SO MUCH to do aside. Trust me, I'm a Warframe founder and I still have SO MUCH things to do…
When I launch a craft, I almost forget it as I focus on other tasks. You should try too, the time won't be a problem anymore for you. xD
I agree, I've been kicking around Warframe since CBT, and I still have a list as long as your arm of stuff to get and things to do...
Players created a movement tech to cross the map faster. The devs embraced that notion and overhauled their whole system for faster traversal.
A player pulled a slot machine hundreds of times trying to get a specific item. The devs saw how predatory this was and removed the slot machine.
New players become confused with the new player experience. The devs constantly try to improve the intro sequence. They attempted a new player guidance program. They have in-game help chat. Recently they have prompts that ask you if you know what to do and how they can help you better.
Thanks devs.
They did take their time, but at least it's getting easier to start, ngl, it was rough going through early game all on my own, Warframe, like League, is a game that you cannot go alone into unless you've played A LOT of games, otherwise it might feel like too much and you'll just drop it bc it doesn't feel fun.
"A player pulled a slot machine hundreds of times trying to get a specific item. The devs saw how predatory this was and removed the slot machine" What is Riven mod?
@@batanthai6841 yuh but kuva cant be bought:)
@batanthai6841 I been playing since before Harrow and don't use rivens because I don't understand them. Having done steel path I can say they're not necessary.
@@batanthai6841 It was Kubrow fur patterns iirc. You could gamble on them with plat until that one guy spent way too much to get a specific pattern.
Rivens aren't predatory as you can't buy kuva with real money or platinum.
Only thing that HAS to be bought by irl money is skins made by community, which part of the money goes to the creator, and very specific bundles.
and prime cosmetics
Ooo that’s why some of them have the steam symbol then? That’s cool as hell
@@PrawiSucia_Official “very specific bundles”. Was literally thinking of Prime cosmetics and Tennocon bundles
@@sparkyjj11 yeah 😊 Tennogen things are fan made and voted. They even provide software to make it easier to make those.
If your skin is picked you get some of the profits and ofc free version for yourself.
@@WhatBeDaPointMon There is Aya and Regal Aya, Aya is obtained by doing open world hunts or opening relic packs in Syndicates and using it to buy Prime Resurgence relics, Regal Aya is only obtained with real money and is used to buy ready-made Prime accessories and Prime Warframes in Varzia.
personally I think trading for plat and nightwave can fix the slots point and the waiting time in crafting gives you a reason to take a break and not get burnt out or too addicted
They literally said it in a dev stream. People grind for unhealthy hours and the devs try to limit that.
They even gave Ordis a recurring line for on your ship telling you to take a break from playing. Saying that the same pressure that creates diamonds also creates rubble.
But the number of times he has said it right after I've logged in and I'm checking on everything as a sort of taking stock to see what I want to do for the day is surprising. Like, "I was going to play, but if you want me to take a break immediately after starting up that's on you."
@@KeptWolf769 I think that's same reason they've credited for limiting the amount of standing you can earn in game in a 24 hour period. Some days I'm like, why do you even need it? Other days I'm like, what do you mean I hit the limit?
@@barjona100 Only company that cares abt our health(i think) and every hour you take a warning to rest.
This is such a healthy perspective.
Just came from @Aztecross video reviewing this video. I had to stop by and leave a like and subscribe. Keep up the great work. Warframe has always been one of my favorite games. It is one of those games I can always come back too.
I’ve tried Warframe 3 times and it never stuck.. I never got out of the tutorial quests.. I decided to give it an actual try 2 weeks ago and all of a sudden I have 65 hours in the game. ITS SO GOOD!
The new player experience is rough, but after that rut it's peak gaming
Took a solid almost nonstop month back 2017 for me after that I had no life lol it was always spent playing fucking warframe lmao
One you get the mid-game like having all your start chart and unlocking steel path...oh boy is fun.
You get access to Incarnon and omg I fucking love those things, you get arcane and you are overall broken but some enemies still beat yo ass so you have to be more broken than you already are lol.
The lack of an endgame like raids really kills it for me
I personally loved the start of the game but it's the obstacle for many, so glad you broke through!
over 3k hours... and I loved (almost) every minute it.
1: The tutorial leaves you in a confusing void... Your goal should be to _"unlock all of the planets"._
2: You have to get into a mindset of _"Farming today, for the items you will be using tomorrow"_
If you can get those two rules through your head - you will LOVE Warframe.
What to spend platinum on if you choose to get some:
1: Frame storage slots
2: Weapon storage slots
3: Potatos (it makes sense - I promise)
4: Riven storage slots
[EDIT]: Inserted potatoes
I would swap number 1 and 2.
@@Vesperon
You mean weapon storage over frame storage? Hmm... argument could be made, but starting out there are definitely weapons that are sub-par... like the MR1 stuff you get at the start that can be tossed. But I'd be happy with a split focus on Frame and Weapon slots. :)
Both are important.
I agree with frame and weapons (order might be on case by case basis).
Rivens, I would say should be 4 with 3 being companions/archwing/associated weapons.
That's my preference, but mainly because I haven't really looked at rivens yet
@@AJMalice90
fair! :)
I love Warframe tbh. it's one of those games that is just well gatekept from weird normies or some twitter people.
Pete Parsons the CEO of Bungie needs to watch this video and then get fired.
Destiny 2 was trying to do something like this but with Pete Parsons at the helm he has ruined it time and time again.
Warframe is such a great game with Digital Extremes running it and someone who loves and cares for it.
Rebecca Ford is a fucking BOSS. We need more people like her.
I met Rebecca once years ago at a party, got a photo with her and hanged out for a bit. Told her that I loved Pariah. She told me that game was made long before she started working at DE. Really lovely person, very friendly, coolest person I've met in the industry. She is incredibly down to earth.
Crazy how we live in a world in which 99% of corporate suits are blind to the most profitable thing that exists: goodwill.
Digital Extremes are among the remaining 1%.
Funny how the CEO of DE does weekly streams with reb and and is engaged with the community
Bungie's fall from grace fills me with such profound sadness
@@olivierdols5556 Such a weird world.
In DE we see the head of the game be constantly in stream to show the new things, and Steve the CEO did the same, they were always on center in their conventions
Meanwhile on ActiBlizz we had Bobby F Kotick that the most we saw him interact in an entertainment medium was being in Moneyball.
I'm not gonna lie. This guy made me tear up. I started this game when I moved to America in 2013. I didn't grow up with games, especially in Nigeria. I was 11 years old, and my dad gave me his old laptop, and I ended up stumbling on Warframe. I remember my little brother and I had to share the keyboard because our hands were too small to play, and we never knew about key bindings. The difficulty of playing a great game with another person pretty much "piloting" a Warframe. We fell in love immediately with the game, and it's was a break from our anxiety from moving continents. I'm now 22, and I haven't dropped the game, and I buy from their markets because I support it. It was my first game, and I appreciate this man for those pleasant words about this game. Thank you for letting me re-live those memories from 10 years ago.
the one thing i ALWAYS and will always say the best thing about warframe is its community... i have never seen a more giving and kind community, when i was a newbie someone made it his personal duty to help me for about 2 months, he asked what playstyle i like, he helped me farm a frame that matched said playstyle, gave me premium currency for, and i quote, "just because"... not to mention basically every veteran has a "pay it forward" mentality because at some point they wwere also newbies, and they were also given the same interaction i had, and after a year i was the one who payed it forward, i LOVE it so much
I was gifted voidrig just because warframe has a great community came from destiny 2 and warframe has a better community
Someone out there bought me equinox while I was farming for it. And they did it cause they could. I'll never forget it.
@@okwut6377 It's been like that since the beginning, I started in december 2014, and the first thing the random vet who took me under his wing did was give me a frost Prime set after I asked for help farming the regular. It was my literal first frame, and it's my most used frame, and by a lot. Pay It Forward, he said, and I've tried.
@@xyzen9673 i used to be a top trader back in my days (returning soon to the game and that was in like 2015/16) and i gave like 40k plat to newbie players when i was leaving kinda gonna miss having some plat due all the frames that been added for the past 4 years i havent played... oh well guess i'll be grinding old ass relics for the plat need to see wich frames are vaulted to run those relics and get me sone plat
I even once got random gifts in my mailbox! I'm even veteran player, so I texted the person "thank you, but why?" and all they said was "enjoy :)"
This community just likes being nice :)
I love the slow progression of seeing you be very skeptical of Warframe to becoming a full convert and spreading the good word.
Then he'll get a few hundred hours deep, realize there's bugger all to do in the endgame, and quit.
True this is why I never burn out in playing warframe, i wait for a major update, do said content then take a break and play other games then I repeat the cycle this results in to the maximum enjoyment I get when I play warframe
I quit after about 350 hours. It was fun but also extremely grindy and spent hours and hours reading and researching all the systems the game throws at you.
Im a vet and i quit for a looong time, what the fuck is going on? Who is that entraty guy with the huge corpses in his basement
@@Gigachad-mc5qzWell.. he's got huge corpses in his basement.
Imagine, the people who make the best entertainment products, are the people who enjoy what they are doing and want to entertain people. And not the suits looking at financials thinking they are cash flow positive on good faith and can squeeze just a bit harder for more money. Almost as if sales and financial people dont care about entertainment or good products......
Not to mention that devs actually play the game
That's the problem with the gaming industry as a wider whole, right there. Penny pinchers at the top don't see games as a form of entertainment, they see a product. Products make money, money makes profits, profits make fat CEO bank accounts. Ergo, they must make more product. Quality suffers for the sake of quantity, and in turn our experience as gamers suffers. Not to sound too hyperbolic or dramatic, but the gaming industry is being suffocated under the weight of its own selfish greed.
@@jamiekay4210honestly all these ceos are pretty dumb to be treating gaming this way, most aaa games these past few years has barely broke even but yet they keep spending more and increasing the price despite it not working out.
It is...
A miracle
The good thing about warframe is when you get a burn out you just leave and come back all the content will still be there when you come back
Unlike (destiny)
Plus you'll likely return to a new Warframe or story mission, but it's practically guaranteed there'll be new content when you come back. It's amazing.
I was also gonna say, the same content is available, and if you come back after a while, you'll probably see some new stuff too.
Started playing WF because of you. It killed my hype for WoW's new expansion, its that good
An interesting observation. My experience is similar. I took up Warframe towards the end of the shitshow known as Pandaland when looking for something similar to Mass Effect 3 multiplayer--but with more. Never bothered looking at WoW again. And it was so much more.
@@davefinfrock3324 I'm glad to see a Mass Effect enjoyer as a Warframe enjoyer.
Yeah, WoW and WoW clones literally put me to sleep now because Warframe spoiled me (I legit fell asleep trying to play SWTOR). It's such a huge glowup.
@@davefinfrock3324 HELL YEAH! I did the same! Grinded the hell out og ME3 mp as well
Man, I'm a washed up FFXIV raider and I was hoping Dawntrail would hold my attention for a while, it didn't and I'm now back on Warframe after only a month.
I can't get over how close we were to never getting Warframe. If a single thing went wrong then odds are we never would've gotten such an amazing game.
I was there back then but i was in middle school let alone didn't have or know how to buy the founders pack, but i'm glad those who did saved the game when it was needed the most
dang im early.
The friendship between Devs and the community is something i cherish. Ive been playing Warframe on-off for over 5 years.
Like many others I'm a former D2 player. Got tired of the stuff we've been served by Bungie lately and saw Warframe after the TGS presentation this last November I'm glad I gave it a try. Have not looked back since.
DE has been great as of late (even with its rough stages before Rebb took the reins), and the game itself is amazing to play. The movement is like no other, and it's such a breath of fresh air having a game that is not actively beating you down with constant "tuning" patches that other GaaS games suffer from. Glad more people are discovering Warframe again because it deserves the success.
Having the freedom to choose if i spend money or not and having fun at the sametime makes me want to spend money
Most other games: Buy this to continue
Me: Do I want to?
Warframe: You can play for free!
Me: Hehe... 50€ goes BRRR!
@@hydram4830 exactly! I spend money when i have fun, not to have fun
i love warframe ,skiping the farmville timers on crafting items and buying things for 15 cents from some free to play loosers made me understand that there is no integrity in owning anything , the economy is fake , and the players like being enslaved for 20 plat while shouting the free to play experience is great 😂😂😂😂
@@MrRafagigapr 🐒🐒🐒
@@MrRafagigapr🐒🐒🐒
Never played the game, but I actually got choked up listening to this. It is heartwarming to know that a company like this is out there. This is how gaming should be. You've convinced me to push this game to the top of my backlog.
Is that the birth of a new baby Tenno I hear? Once you do take the plunge don't be afraid to ask any questions you have in the Q&A chat.
One of us, one of us, one of us!
We'll be happy to help you in your early hours and forward. "Wake up Tenno, wake up!"
And we all lift
You are late ^^
Warframe is what every live service game aims to be. A living, breathing ecosystem. One that actually FEELS like it is alive, like you are really part of this system.
Part of this feeling comes from the Market system, and how I can literally turn into a merchant for a play session if I feel like it. This allows me to earn the in-game premium currency and buy real items (items you can only get with premium). It's such a refreshing change.
I have given them real money in the past as well. Not because they asked, but because I truly value this game and how far it's come. It doesn't feel like I'm being taken advantage of. It feels like the game and I are growing together. Something I've never felt with another franchise.
I have gave DE real money because they have shown me they care about my time and energy, they also show that they care about you via Ordis, making him funny, relatable but also help you spot you've been playing for too long
Another game that follows suit in a similar fashion as Warframe when it comes to both building a small but engaged community as well as having arguably the best monetization across the industry is Deep Rock Galactic.
As far as I'm aware, there is no premium currency ingame, all DLC is cosmetic only, and the seasonal passes are free - as well as entering an evergreen reward rotation after the season is over. There is no FOMO, there is no overmonetization, there is only a solid game with a fun community. Doesn't hurt that the tone of the game also is somewhat lighthearted.
And as an IP, they even expanded upon it now, as they iirc released 2 more games in their IP-verse. Vastly different games, yet they have the full trust of the community, even if we don't like the games genrewise.
I still love that clip of Sheldon going "Oh shit i made a slot machine."
can you give name of clip or video?
@@The-DanFed-One pretty sure it's in the NoClip documentary.
@@srbingham The Rise of Warframe (Warframe Doc Part 2) - Noclip - Video Game Documentaries Channel 23:00mins in. :)
@@srbingham I found it myself clip name: "Warframe: Sheldon.mp4"
And then they added Riven mods, generally considered lootboxes in all but name (thankfully entirely unnecessary, but new players may not realize this), even by affiliated content creators (see Brozime's videos from around the time), or the entire, absolutely disgusting, 10th anniversary debacle.
Still love the game, threw them a bunch of cash during the Founders days and have been playing pretty consistently since then, but DE isn't perfect, and it's up to the community to keep them accountable, but sometimes the money-making potential still wins out, as in the above examples.
I started playing 10 years ago, because I was bored and wanted some online game where I can spend a 30 minutes to an hour a day. I stayed for the story and because DE doesn't want to fleece me out of every penny I have. Korean FOMO slop comes and goes, Warframe is forever.
How on earth are you making any kind of progress only playing an hour a day? Warframe is one of the grindiest games in existence. There's a reason people call it Warfarm.
@@qu1253 it can be as grindy as you want it to be as long as you are having fun! I play warframe too and the grind is far better in warframe than other games i played for example Lost ark and blackdesert or even VINDICTUS!
@@qu1253 anyone can just do a couple of important things over 1-2 hours or less and then hop out they're gonna take longer to do everything but they'll still be able to do whatever they want eventually
@qu1253 warframe isn't that grindy theirs only like 4 game modes that reset weekly that you should do for progession after that everything else is just Mr and bulids and that's all optional most resources youll have a stock pile of by late game from just running missions
@@qu1253 Its not timegated, its finite, and its not fomo. And theyr not asking you to build a skyscraper in a month time every fucking month. You move as you please. And there is a 12 years of content THERE.
I am one of Warframe's Founders. We did our job, and DE lived. I have never stopped playing the game since i started back in 2013. This is the only online game i've ever given money to, and they deserve every single cent.
Ty for supporting the game at the start ❤
I bought the founders pack. GrandMaster that shit was 250 bucks. And Looking back at it...I honestly dont remember why I loved the game so much. Go search what warframe was back in 2012 and it was DRASTICALLY different from what we are playing today. Basic frames, basic abilities, Damage resistance wasnt even a thing in any frames kit. It was so much simpler. Im glad I spent money and time with DE. Plat discounts, Plat giveaways just for watching streams. like these things arent real with even triple A titles. DE cares more about keeping the players happy then anything else. I remember when mirage Prime came out and her Hall Of Mirrors split her into 4 copies but because she didnt BOW like in her trailer the community asked for the change. BOOM Mirage now bows to activate Hall Of Mirrors! Like its the attention to detail and the love that makes me willing to throw money at the screen and not feel like i should hate myself lol
Thank you for your contribution in giving this incredible game a chance.
what do you feel about the founders who quit the game and now shit on it because they had a bad experience with gen alpha coming into the game after new war?
can you gimme 70 plat for a warframe slot? ;-; i've been a good tenno
There is no connection between world of tanks and warframe IN THE SLIGHTEST but you do you
Yeah I got annoyed about that too
Probably needed a way to get the ad in the vid
I've played Warframe off and on for years and it's staggering how much it's grown. Went from just running and gunning Grineer in similar tilesets and while a lot of fun was a bit simple. Now it's an incredibly dynamic experience with more story depth and varied gameplay than I ever expected.
Amen.
i'd like to question that "story depth" you've mentioned there: i've been playing warframe since autumn 2014, when archwing came out i onboarded every friend i could find to try this game out. i played it solely on the merits of it having good performance and mechanics (co-op play was a big plus for me), like a free-to-play toy. but i always found that claims of it having some sort of story as a very big stretch. it never had a coherent story from my pov, only snippets that barely made sense for the particular game mechanic introduced in that moment, which they promised to coerce into some coherent thread in some later updates. am i wrong?
@@q01qstory is unfortunately play gated, unlocked near mid-late game
The state of the gaming industry is pretty sad.
A bunch of businessmen, with all their business school/experience, failing to realise that people WILL pay for a good product.
One of the small things in the game is the vouchers for purchasing plat that one gets for merely logging in. They give 50% and sometimes 75%. The thing with these vouchers is that they are a HUGE incentive for players that are on the fence about paying. When they get one, they go "hey maybe I should drop some cash on plat, I got this voucher so I'm getting more value out of it".
One thing about in-game-premium-currency in games is that they inherently have no real value, the only value is the price tag the developers put on them. As such, there is no real loss to give players vouchers from time to time to ENCOURAGE them to spend a little. Sure, a player is getting 50% more plat than they are paying for, so what? Plat isn't real currency that the studio is minting, there is no loss giving players a 50% voucher. These vouchers instead turn a non-paying player into a satisfied paying player.
Ita mindboggling how the very concept of discounts for premium currency is so foreign for games when it should logically be in all games that has premium currency.
Fr, they really think "Oh, then they'll go for the newer skins with more effects and all the effort instead of paying it fully", like, what if instead of trying to rip off players with a 500$ skin (Looking at you Riot), you just give them a discount so they actually buy your premium currency instead of not buying at all bc it's too expensive?
The bad part is people WILL pay for a bad product as well all you need is a good trailer really , keeping a game running is prolly more of a hassle to them , they just want the intro buy in cost . Its a sick hustle / scam
the managers knowing nothing about games is the fault of these mistakes , that and artist based teams you get 5 cinematics but no gameplay updates
@@rick30521 Yes! Exactly! And you know what your doing the next day after you spent on a new skin? You log back in! Because you want to show it off!
And it isn’t random. I’ve noticed that when I log out for long periods of time they will almost always have a discount waiting for me. Perhaps it’s client based and they log how many purchases you make (I’m heavily invested in this game and have likely spent thousands over the near decade I’ve been playing) but regardless it does work as an incentive since I tend to hoard my Platinum between prime access drops.
I still remember, 6 years ago, with few hours of trying to figure out the game, when someone give items, warframe & weapon slots to me for free, without even want me to thank him.
The single thing he want from me, to do the same when i could to another new player.
Sometimes was the single reason to login, to answer to a call for help of a new player.
been there on both sides. as someone who received help from veteran players, and as a veteran who helped new players. cant play the game currently, but warframe is one of those games where you feel rewarded for helping others.
This is the way.
Same with me when I started. The guy gave me Frost Prime, and 200 plat. Helped me with a few missions before he went to work, and only asked that I return the favor to someone else. I have around 8 times so far, be it a frame, or a bundle.
Yeah, Warframe is truly unique in that its community genuinely loves the game, and love it when more people feel the same. I mean, how many other games can you think of that have veteran players supporting newer players because they genuinely want to, not because they benefit from it.
Most games that don’t incentivize helping other players tend to result in players not doing so, and sometimes veteran players will even hate newer players because “they dont know how to play.” They’re new players, the frick do you expect?
In some rare cases, it can even go beyond just veteran players hating new players, and the veteran players are actively hostile to new players, trying to drive them away and sabotage their enjoyment, like what happened with Armored Core 6. A lot of people really wanted to enjoy the game, and often they do enjoy it, but then they reach a point where they can’t keep progess because they’re new to the series and dont have the knowledge to get past it. The problem though, is that when those newer players reached that point, and they asked “hey, i really enjoy this game, but im stuck. How can I beat this part? Any suggestions?” the vast majority of the suggestions they get is “skill issue” or “get out of here journalist” or even “you cant beat this? Lmao get the frick out of here, you dont belong here. Never show yourself here again.” And they stop playing, because they’re actually being bullied for not being “good enough.” And I’m not just saying this, because this actually happened to me when I wanted to try out Armored Core 6. I _wanted_ to enjoy the game, but the veteran players actively told me that I didnt deserve to enjoy it, that I wasn’t wanted in the community, that I was effectively subhuman because I was struggling with something that the vast majority of people, including most of the people saying these things, had struggled with. Many of them know how hard said part was, but they refused to help others who were struggling because they all have the mindset of “i beat it, you cant, therefore im better than you, therefore you suck.”
In short, dont be like the Armored Core 6 community. Dont shun someone because they ask for help. Instead, be like the Warframe community, and actually help when someone asks for it. Its one of the main reasons why Warframe has such a large, active community even 11 years after it launched, because new players actually feel welcomed and supported.
me and my friends have bought plat several times and I don't think we've ever regretted it, or felt angry because of the costs of some trading items. With time some of the rarest things have only become more accessible even to low-spenders and free to plays. The prices on arcane energize literally crashed once arcane dissolution was added, which was a HUGE change
Great commentary! My favorite part of your videos is... the silence. It gives us a moment to contemplate what you just said. Well edited and put together.
Warframe vet here. Played across PS3, 4 and 5 with 3000 hours clocked.
One of my favorite things to do in Warframe is to monitor the in game chat and look for new Tenno to take under my wing. 😊
Dammit, I love when people notice it. I try to give people the space to absorb, ponder, and remember. We're having a conversation after all.
Yesterday I watched my kavat play with a beach ball on my orbiter. Best game ever.
Hellminth gives it a little smooch
I love how they put so much detail into the game, but I hate that some frames don't have more, namely Ember. My girl got 2 amazing skins and a rework, plus she's one of the first, give her a story!
"... is a wake up call" is becoming your version of "this game changed my life" and I love it lol
you meant "this game changed my life" ?
@@velosong3396 i think so because that makes the most dumb logic sense...what they won't no one writes....gaming saving a life...lmao.
Wakeup call is not a bad way to describe warframe. Good game Developing is not easy but warframe somehow really shows its possible.
Asmongold should play Warframe to open his eyes or affirm his notions
@@velosong3396 yea true I forgot
28:26 this reminds me of when ULTRAKILL was first in early access and people discovered that using the parry mechanic when firing the shotgun you could punch your bullets to make it count as a parry. Instead of patching out the glitch, the dev gave it its own style rating called Projectile Boost and made it a proper mechanic
Path of Exile also is a great example of how to run a live service game and treat its players well. Particularly the new league. Its like a whole new game. I have years of playing both Warframe and PoE.
I'm a career Destiny players since it's Beta in D1. I hold world records for speedruns in 3 raids as well as Raid Race top 50 completions on Day 1 races as well as Top 100 Speeds and clears ranking my account had over 8k hours.....My account was banned last month because I used a macro to dismantle a currency item so I had more space for more items in my inventory, it takes 5 seconds of holding the delete key to dismantle 1. I had 999 so I used a macro to hold delete for me and ended up banned a week later. I received no help and no support once appealing my ban. Bungie literally said to fuck off. So here I am about to begin on Warframe. This video fills me with hope that I will enjoy my journey in Warframe as much as I did if not more on Destiny.
Thats tragic brother but on the bright side I think you'll fw Warframe it's quite similar
Dude, that's terrible. But I too gave warframe a try after 5k ish hours on d2, and yeah it's really fun. Only thing holding it back is crafting timers, but there's so much to do. You'll love it
Give us an update rate
@@g.ivan-center2647 Fantastic so far! It's a little confusing and overwhelming but I honestly love this, I can't believe I wasted so much time on Destiny when I could be playing Warframe!
Damn, that sucks. Well, welcome to Warframe. The begining might be confusing at first. You're kinda dropped in without much directions and you need to figure out what you need to do. Unlocking planets will be your first progression to focus. The crafting timer might seem like a big turn off at first, but once you realise there is so much stuff to do, you end up forgeting stuff in your foundry that are done crafting XD If you need help for anything, don't hesitate to ask in global chat or to go see a twitch streamer and ask for help.
I just recently got into warframe. I tried it once in 2015, but never made it past the first 30 minutes. Now I have over 100 hours in the past few weeks. I am so sorry that I never gave this game the time it deserved.
Don't be too hard on yourself. Warframe is vastly different today than it was in 2015, and there are valid reasons as to why it's so hard for new players to get started. Trying to get my friends into Warframe is like pulling teeth 💀
Perfect time brother, hope you got the free saryn prime from the Tennocon stream. Also, keep playing cuz next update they wil be giving out a free Caliban with his rework.
Do you want to know a silly story, but one that I love to use as an example when it comes to DE listening to players, no matter how small?
In the update that released Chroma's Deluxe Skin, when you put the giant sword skin on Zenistar, it bugged, and became GIANT.
But; They didn't think it was bad, in fact, they asked to leave this bug, because it was something funny, AND THEY SIMPLY DID IT!
If you go to the game now, and put the Heavy Blade Dominion Skin on your Zenistar, you will see that it becomes MASSIVE!
And this was intentionally requested by the community to leave it that way.
The attention that DE gives to players, no matter how small, is almost surreal.
Your videos on Warframe convinced me to try the game for the first time nearly 2 months ago. 200 game time hours later, and I am absolutely in love with Warframe. Stay awesome, LD. Thank you again.
Shout out to the member of my Warframe clan who told me to check this video out. I've been a diehard Destiny 2 player since The Red War, and with everything that has gone on with the game in the recent years, (and especially in the last month-yikes) I finally made the conscious decision to try out Warframe and perhaps leave D2 behind. I am so thankful to have started this game and I am beyond myself on how in-depth the gameplay is, how smooth and solid the mechanics are, and how much fun it truly is. Build crafting has a whole new meaning when it comes to this game. Looking forward to seeing all that Warframe has to offer. Thank you for this video, made me feel a whole lot better about my decision to support this game and this company. Subscribed.
It's actually been really fun to move to Warframe with my Destiny clan...or the five people who are still around. We're all learning together.
I had tried Warframe 3 times, with many years in between. It looked cool but never could understand what was going on/what to do and never went past the 1st mission. I always wanted to get into it but couldn't. But seeing videos from loyal fans and genuine reactions from, including you, and the community/playerbase interactions in the comments, made me want to give it one more try.
I have been playing the game since your first video came out non stop. 4th time, it really clicked and I love it. Even spent money on it. Addicting game with a lot of love put into it. This game is a masterpiece and thanks for making me want to give it another chance.
Honestly, I got so addicted to this game because of what an insanely massive sandbox game it is. You're always searching for something new, a cool part here and another there, trying new builds and mods that create a whole new concept for a frame you've had for 90 hours. I love the customizable design of this game, how easy it is to connect to others, and most importantly, you can see the pay it forward attitude of this community. I never have to worry about being alone or isolated because im an introvert. People genuinely love and care about this game, i am so passionate about it and the incredible devs always working to make something beautiful even better. This game has something for everyone, genuinely! It's so good you can take a break for a couple months, come back, and rediscover that passion all over again. Thanks to every single one of you in this game who's taken your time to bring up the next tennos. I love you guys. Best place to be
Rebecca ford went from intern to fucking CREATIVE DIRECTOR OF WARFRAME
Not only that, but she experiments with it first was duveri which was mixed.Then she hit us with stalker's back story which was well received and made people cry.Then 1999 straight up hit us with a boy band which the player base absolutely love. She out here, going. "Good luck figuring out what I want to put next"
Power of a$$ 😂
nah she deserves it, she's actually good @@Hangman1
@@Rhino-Prime I just hope their weaboo tendencies don't get in the way as at times it felt like whole plot points and tropes come from the trashy anime of today which I have grown to loathe for various reasons. They make it known they're big anime fans time and time again and much of that bleeds over into the storytelling which can be mixed at times.
@@Ziko577Well their story as of right now doesn't seem generic. Whereas other anime tends to be like "power of friendship! Blah blah blah". Warframe story is about taking away the pain of something that is ugly. Which ngl as of right now is pretty unique
Don't forget Tennogen. A system in which unbelievably talented members of the community create skins for Warframes, weapons etc. By buying them you not only support DE but primarily the Creator! So money FROM the community, FOR the community! I love it so much ❤
fun fact: there's a self taught 3d artist from the philippines who got his sister through college and even funded renovations for his parents' house with the money he earned in the tennogen program
Huh I didn't know they were community made. Makes them even cooler
@@saschaberger3212 Yeah, what gets in to the game is voted on through the Steam Workshop
@@madmiico is great, not wasting it all on useless bs, but helping his family with it, nice
The reason most developers don't follow Warframe's design is because of how greedy many publishers are; they're more than happy to erode player's good will to make a few extra bucks
warframe monetization is indirect slavery that is justified only by people who know nothing better and think selling items for 20 cents worth of platinum is good because you can grind the premium currency withouth paying , this is the worst way to make pay to skip content ,why? because instead of buying from a shop you are buying hundreds of hours from other players and is bad for the economy long term , nothing has any large worth because anyone can just swipe and own it , i would rather a thousand times play a game like POE that has everything for free and you can spend 30 dollars in convenience storage once you think you will spend more time playing the game and have it forever than have people straight make a game not even have a decent economy because they want more money with pay to skip currency
I'm not sure you how long you have been playing Warframe but I think it's important to understand that updates were slow and lower quality before DE got Tencent money. Also DE has a much much smaller pay roll than most of the companies you are speaking about. It's easy to just assume greed but I think it's important not to go too far in one direction
@@MrRafagigapr Holy yap. Is having good monetization "indirect slavery" these days? Plat is ridiculously easy to grind.
@@MrRafagigapr 20 cents? buddy you must not know how to make plat
@@MrRafagigapr bad take, when i was new i would crack relic to earn plats and skip the timers, it would only take like 40 minutes, this was when i was new but in end game it's even easier as i have better stuff to sell.
God I love Warframe it’s such a phenomenon in the gaming industry, with their loyal fans and devs who look out for their community I’m so glad to see Warframe thrive and get recognized. I’m happy I started playing this game in 2016 ever since then I’ve fallen in love with the community the gameplay and lore🙏🏽🙏🏽.
I recently passed my User Experience exam in my gaming university course and the player (the user) is what everything should gravitate around. From when you first hear about the game to what feedback they get and how they talk about it to other people. Pablo has been focusing on User Experience himself, what we know as Quality of Life changes, and it's been having such a good feedback.
Warframe devs has been constantly addressing and talking to the community and I'm so glad of that.
The involvment with the community is something so good for the game ❤
Edit: thank you so much for your insights throughout the video as well as the ending segment, really pierced through my heart
Warframe has been in my game rotation since 2013. I am a proud founder. This game as come so far, and it’s still so fun to get together with some friends and chat while we obliterate stuff. Looking forward to Sevagoth Prime!
Sevagoth looking dope af
Thank you for your service 🫡
Bro I main sevagoth once they gave him a deluxe skin that has the shanty music play while in (horror/monster form) is the best
Imagine family fun with Wf. Have 2 kids and you can go full squad. Have a giant board in the middle of the house, writing what you need to farm or such.
@@starry-vi2kv not gonna lie that sounds fun as hell
As a long time player x founder supporter I'm so glad of what warframe has become throughout the years, sure I do miss the whole stealth ninja aesthetics they had back then but I know DE had to adapt to survive and if they didn't imo we wouldn't have such an amazing game we have today.
Its honestly one of the only few games I happily come back from a short/long hiatus, this is a game that keeps on giving and you'll never doubt that something fresh is always on the horizon when it comes to this game.
Its been an amazing 11 years for you all and I'm glad to be part of the wf community.
We went from Ninja to Samurai.
@@AimlessSavant to dubstep to space wizard to pregenante frames, yes life good
@@unloyal4847can't believe the stalker got jayde pregant
it's still stealth when no one is alive to spot you *queue the tileset nuke builds*
@@Xephyranth Saryn go brrrrrrrrr
Warframe is what happens when passionate and talented artists and developers who care about their creations and their community are not forced to prioritize money over everything (just look at the interviews of the ex-devs and artist at Blizzard and Riot); and in return players reciprocate by supporting them and their creations through every circumstance for years and years.
Honestly, I love Warframe, even though I have been playing it for only a year, it has become my favorite game ever gameplay-wise and it's worldbuilding is absolutely stellar.
All of this, the community, the developers, the passion, the quality, and so much more is similar to that of the Project Moon games and their community for how good they are, and that is an incredibly high standard to reach.
Since '15, I've bought several prime access packs to support DE. A $50-ish pack once a year or so is like purchasing any other new game, but I'm supporting the same studio.
prime pack was painful especially for the full set, i ended up only buying hydroid prime pack full price, then later chroma prime pack at regional pricing, bcs the prices didn't made sense before regional pricing
Honestly dont even mind spending money on this game, I’ve been playing it so long and it’s only gotten better over time. Also helps the community is lovely compared to other online games.
Farming Prime parts from Void Relics while listening to this in the background, I honestly dont think I disagreed with anything said here was pretty much just a "Yeah that sounds about right".
Edit: I forgot to mention this bit but what keeps me coming back dispite having 3000-4000 hours played is that there is always something new to grind out, and even when im done grinding for the day sometimes I go to the railjack to veil proxima and attack the Sentient Murex just because or maybe I'll just chill in an open world or I'll replay a quest with a different loadout to see the difference.
There really is no end to the fun you can have with this game with the proper mindset.
I agree with all your points, as someone who sunk 2K+hrs into Destiny 2, then quit when Crapfall was released, I started playing Warframe because I needed a cure for that interplanetary grind, Warframe accomplished that for me, I hated that in D2 you needed to grind every week in order not to be left behind, meanwhile in Warframe I can stop whenever I want, come back months later and pick up where I left of, also Bungie has a nasty habit of removing content that we already paid for, while Warframe you can play the entire game from start to the latest update. Personally I did not care how good the Final Shape was, I refuse to pay Bungie a single dime, plus I've been on Linux for a while now, another factor preventing me from falling into temptation LOL
EDIT: I forgot to mention that when I started playing D2 when it arrived on Steam, many times while doing strikes, I would get insulted because I had crappy gear and was clueless of what to do against champions in the game, meanwhile in Warframe I ask for help in the global game chat and I get several answers, even more if I go to the Discord channel... That's the type of community I appreciate, I am not saying there's no trolls or griefers in WF but I still haven't come across one in the nearly 900hrs I have put into the game.
Honestly I'm right behind you I'm going to finish up this last expansion play this last season and then on tapping out of destiny 2 don't even care what the other two seasons are I don't want to get rehooked on it again. Most I might do after that is go back to D1 and finally fully finish the game (some rise of iron stuff I haven't finished) but myself and my buddy is in my clan want to move on to a game that has a lot less fomo than destiny 2 and Warframe is looking pretty good right now
@@b.kl.1363 Be free my friend...
I quit destiny 2 at shadowkeep. Imagine buying a dlc for 30$ and finished it in fxxking 5 hours and also they decided to expire weapon you grinded for dozens of hours because they want to sell new contents. It's just the worst paying experience I even had. Not again, goodbye destiny 2.
If you buy platinum with 30$. You could probably get dozens hours of content in warframe. And about map or quests? DE didn't even ask you to pay for these.
D1 was great. D2 killed the game. I tried Warframe but the combat is too floaty.
@@mmis1000 dude, I am leaving destiny too . Their bullshit is getting too much to handle . But you genuinely missed out and left too early. You have like atleast 1000 hr of epic content left .final shape is their final dlc. I'll complete this session then put it to it's deathbed .. like most destiny player will .
The coolest thing about the playerbase, and something I strive to do, is that people will literally take the time out of their day to bus you over to a node on the game map, help you complete the mission, and give you years of their knowledge crystalized into a palatable form in the chat box (All while annihilate the entire map likes its nothing). They will even give you rare mods that dont drop except from end game content, or require farming for a good week before they are even accessable to purchase in game, for free. Like, straight up just give you some warframe ability augment mods that would have cost you 10-20 plat on the market or a week long grind that requires premium items to complete, for free no questions asked.
Warframe is literally the nice guys of the MMORPG genre, yeah they have their mishaps from here and there but the reason why they are so beloved is because they are an actual company that from the beggining has placed the player satisfaction and interest infront of anything else. Just make money by doing a good product and being nice to people is all that we need, thats it.
@@Trauson There is no MMO. It's P2P for Pete's sake.
@@therightperspective8690 Look up what MMO means kiddo; A game doesn't have to be like WoW or FF14 in terms of "players per instance" to be an mmo.
Use the brain you claim to have.
@@dakota9821 Semantical cope drivel.
@@dakota9821 Games like Warframe and Destiny have bastardized the meaning of MMO, they are not true MMOs. If only your brain was as big as your ego.
@@dakota9821 lol'd. Pretty hard too. Might wanna get that man some cream for that burn you just ignited him with.
What's even crazier is some of the best gear in the game:
lich/sisters weapons etc. you can't buy.
Been playing for 9 years and Steam tells me I've spent around $900+ dollars, and I, like everyone else: can access everything; The only thing that's locked out of the game are founders cosmetics, which is honestly fair, they deserve it!❤
Also incarnons, you can quite literally take basic starter weapons into endgame if you want to
the best primary in the game right now is a shit slinging gas launcher you can get as early as a week into the game
@@plapmeatowo As a newbie what would the name of that weapon be?
@@plapmeatowoyou could also get it for free if you ask nicely in the relay
@@ratchetdraws Torid
It's been years since I've played, truth be told I've forgotten loads of how it was. But as soon as you utter the words "the second dream" memories come back. It's like you opened a box hidden somewhere deep inside my memories.Time to install the game again I guess...
As a player with thousands of hours into path of exile but never really gave this game the chance it deserves, I'm opening it now. Great video.
GGG otherwise known as Grinding Gear Games (developer of Path of Exile) is another great example or perhaps an even better example of developers who just love their game and players and genuinely want their game to grow and expand their community as a whole.
GGG made a decent game, but they still suffer from some of the same issues as Warframe, just not to such an extent. Farming specific items has become a bit easier, and with in game trade using in game currency you don't pay real world money for, period, it's a bit easier to get what you need. The league mechanics and content updates sometimes stick around so there's only a _chance_ at FOMO, but FOMO for specific items DOES exist, but again not as bad. They do try to form an addiction by implementing certain elements, and most time gates are for player protection (IE to prevent you from doing nothing but heist or delve, etc. and getting bored of it), and not as a means to prevent players from over farming a certain mechanic.
What GGG fails at is making a game that is approachable, or remotely playable for casual players. A large majority of players do not make their own build, and a majority of the people that say they do are following a build guide but modifying it, respeccing is prohibitively costly to discourage creativity and self build attempts. Everybody relies on an aspie that enjoys spread sheets to spend hours hammering out a build on paper, I know, I am that aspie.
@@SherrifOfNottingham There is no Fomo in Warframe, you will get everything as long as you care to get everything.
@AimbotFreak you are so right about warframe lacking FOMO. I took a 2 year break from gaming, only playing fallout 76 occasionally in that time. A buddy asked me if I'd jump on and see what was new on warframe about a month ago, and I picked right back up where I left off, hunting down frames I didn't have yet and casually grinding out standing with the various factions, and the only thing that had changed in those 2 years was that more content had been added.
Then there is NoMansSky, it has been improved massively over the years. Just like wf and PoE, it gets constant free updates and improvements. Sure, it's not perfect, but it has been slowly becoming something incredible
Honestly, I can't wait for PoE2. PoE1 just has so much bullshit going on with it, that I actually stopped playing it. PoE2 is going to be MILES better.
I have decided to spend money on Warframe after 200 hours of gameplay.. Incidentally it was when i stopped playing solo, joined a clan, started trading... and finished Second Dream.
Also... LD, do check out Happy Zephyr, Frame Fighter and Wyrmius. xD you have probably missed those arcade games
"babe wake up new 30 minute video glazing warframe is out"
this is not pejorative i am a massive warframe fan
There are no fans of warframe, just addicts. People that can't see the mechanics that they normally hate being used to make the game worse right in front of them.
@@SherrifOfNottingham And yet people keep coming back every update and the game constantly gets praise for its gameplay, art direction, f2p model, etc... I don't know if you're trolling but I've never seen anyone so dedicated to spouting provably false vitriol at one of the rare good f2p games on the market.
@@SherrifOfNottingham like? The player-driven market fixes basically every issue that F2P brings, other than time investment which... oh no, we have to play more of the game we love!
Also warframe has an INSANELY good reward pace, even lategame.
@@SherrifOfNottingham Destiny fan spotted
@@SherrifOfNottingham You don't know the mechanics of the game, you've never played it.
Honestly, Warframe is so good that even though its a grinding hell, finger-breaking (from the amount of times you'll bullet jump), waiting for things to craft simulator - its an experience you'll enjoy no matter how casual you are, yes sure there is a learning curve you have to get to, but with the amount of people that would be willing to help you out is insane. Its both accessible and fun that i forgot i sank 200 hours already in and it felt like just your average 30h experience.
I was there in the alpha days of warframe.
i remember how dark warframe was and how terrifying it is to first time fighting the infested swarm in tight corridors.
and then there was the founder's program. im so glad to be part of the founder's program and see warframe like my baby grew up so much to now being an identity and valued by gamers.
I'm a happy warframe parent
13:35 Bungie: "What? No, you're *supposed* to charge players to use colors. *Everytime* they want to use them!"
So that's where TFD get idea from ....
Unironically that's exactly what The First Descendent does
since when does bungie charge to change shaders?
Bruh single use shaders in Destiny 2 year 1 was a pain
First Descendant is guilty of this. Not to mention their base skin is not dyeable at all, only bought skins are. They are not following the blueprint of WF at all.
In my opinion, catalysts and reactors are the biggest L in Warframe. You need them for most builds to deal with the steel path later on, but having more mod space lets you tell if a warframe or weapon is worth investing in. I've seen people dismiss good weapons because they thought they were annoying to use or didn't do enough damage due to having limited space.
You can earn them, but they're very slow to come by, and the nightwave prices are RIDICULOUS as well as having to compete with other useful items for the same battle pass currency.
This particular point I partially mitigate by not using Catalysts on weapons that are going to receive a prime version or that are going to receive a kuva/tennet/coda (provisional name for the infested equivalent) version.
i feel this. maybe i just don't grind nightwave hard enough but god reactors are a nightmare for me. they're literally THE thing that broke my f2p streak and made me buy plat (granted, with a 50% off coupon). i think mod slots in general could be looked into for a slight rework, especially regarding augment mods. some of them really should just be part of the kit, unlockable through upgrades, or have a separate slot/multiple slots for like exilus slots.
@@mochike One should always remember to check Acritis's weekly shop as she sometimes sells reactors and catalysts.
Tbh I thought it was bad but after first decendents potatoes cost 25$, I'm grateful you can get potato after a single trade
The good thing is, you can farm some prime parts and sell them for plat. Lots of people who have never invested a single cent in this game, earning plat solely from trading. If you need something, try to sell something for plat. Everything goes.
Fair point, I'm still salty about wait times and limited inventory slots
Warframe is the only game I’ve spent over 3000k hours on and will happily throw money at the Devs.
I saw how player friendly the games shop was and Instantly dropped 60$ in the first few hours to support to game and was more than happy for the value of my money, first purchase “- Titania Prime from the resurgence without knowing anything about Titania. Months later , she’s one of my fav.
Steam is also just one place you can play Warframe. You can on any of the consoles as well.
And Switch of all places, and its not bad either.
It's on crossplay and cross save in every platform ever (yes, even in mobile)
And it STILL runs on ps4, and surprisingly well
I took a break from Warframe for a couple years after i did all the content there was at that time, aka Eidolons.
I came back a week ago to so many activities to do, quests, Railjack,kuva, pets,weapon and frames collecting and much more.
And the currency you can trade for in game or buy with real money, but not necessarily.
Needless to say i took to playing it again,leaving Destiny 2 due to me not affording the last dlc and the dungeon keys,which gated content from me and was frustrating.
The community of Warframe is also a key reason i came back to it, there will always be a Tenno willing to help with either missions or gear, which is invaluable for a beginner or a returning player.
Man that introduction was amazing, too bad you lost me right afterwards with you comparing Warframe to World of Tanks and getting sponsored by them. World of Tanks is the exact opposite of what we want F2P games to be like! World of Tanks is an incredibly predatory, micro-transaction intensive game, not at all the example set by Warframe to the point where I have no idea why you even brought that up. I mean yeah sponsors are sponsors, but if you're talking about Warframe being the 1 good example of the garbage F2P live service model than for the love of god don't bring World of Tanks into this discussion!
It was a sponsorship and I think he made it sound very dumb on purpose to go into the sponsor section
@@grannde_ I've seen cynical/goofy/etc sponsorships on TH-cam and this wasn't it. This sounded like he was being genuine, much more than he needed to be considering it was a sponsorship, a fact that I did acknowledge btw.
@@Owlr4ider yeah he acted like comparing Warframe to world of tanks was normal
@@grannde_not even a comparison. He said warframe was directly inspired by world of tanks…
@@riplix20 yeah obviously a joke but he said it serious And dumb mfs believe he’s serious, world of tanks has no relation to Warframe in any way and came years after it, people are just dumb.
3:55 "Dark Sector E3 2005" is the correct B-roll footage to use here.
14:55 🤓☝Uh technically the best weapons in the game are incarnon evolutions and lich weapons which can only be earned by playing and can't be purchased. Even if you trade for someone else's lich you have to fight it.
i spit up my coffee, ty lmao
You what?! I've never traded for lich before. I didn't know you have to fight it, to force it to fulfill it's contractual obligation to serve you. That's mess up. But somehow, it make sense in a way, and it's inline with their characters.
I haven't played in like two years but is the Kuva bramma and nukor still S tier? Might boot back up tonight
*Chuckles in melee* ever heard of zaws?
my brother got back into it after a VERY long haitus. I informed him of incarnon evolutions. He asked if Dread had one, he was delighted to know that answer was yes.
I've been playing warframe since it first dropped on xbox one back in 2014, and one of the best things about the game even back then was its community full of people that wanted to help new players, because warframe was even more dense and obtuse back then than it is today. I still fondly remember being a little MR-1 baby volt in his default colors with my MK-1 paris and my Bo and timidly telling a guy who was MR-18 (highest MR at the time) that I wanted frost but didn't have the plat to buy him, and that vet telling me I could earn him for free (i just had to press a button to tab over to the blueprint screen to buy his blueprint for credits back then, which was not intuitive at all for a baby tenno and I'm so glad they changed it lmao), and then promptly taking me to mars to get frost from lech kril and taking me orokin cell hunting after that (which I also thought I had to buy at the time because nowhere did it say otherwise). The community is primarily the reason I stayed, because without that help I know I would have given up back then. Their kindness is something I pay forward even today by helping out baby tennos from time to time, and the community remains one of the strongest aspects of this game, imo.
Well, this guy knows what he's talking about.
I played Warframe when it first came out, and I played it for about 3 years.
When I reached an acceptable percentage of game completion, I started helping newcomers, clan members, etc., just as this guy describes.
Eventually, I felt like there was nothing new to do, so I left. Little did I know that when I decided to leave, they were starting to flood the game with absolutely amazing content like The Second Dream and others. I came back a few times over the years, and the last time I played was in 2018/2019, until I started again a month ago... OMG, the amount of new content I have to unlock even when I have 1000hs played, is OVERWHELMING. This game is just AWESOME.
I need this video translated to spanish to share it with my friends, it's a masterpiece.
it genuinely baffles me how people think that warframe is P2W, then you ask how much the guy played the game and its not even outside of the vor's quest
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@@owensparks5013 Back in 2013, I believed in the games vision. I bought into the Grandmaster Founder with faith that this game would eventually reach it's greatness. To see it become like this is one of the few times in my life that I finally made a good investment.
Glad to see it reach even greater heights as the years go by. Gonna be getting myself a Lotus tattoo soon to celebrate
Destiny 2: wHy iS MeS nOT mAkIng MoNEys?!
Warframe: *Laughs in 99.9% free*
By technicality everything is free, only cosmetics can be entirely locked behind a paywall
@ultimatechad8738 Thats why I said 99.9%
@@squidmanscuba8521 that's still 100% free, cosmetics being a paid option does not hinder gameplay at all.
@ultimatechad8738 true
Excellent video, and you are completely right. When I bought platinum (due to their very gracious discounts you can get) I said to myself, "I'm spending this money genuinely because I like the game, and never feel pressured to spend money."
I gave them money, literally to support them. Getting cosmetics for it is like a bonus at that point. Especially given the hundreds of hours they have given me for FREE.
Literally, play Warframe. In fact, thanks Legendary Drops. Im jumping back into Warframe again. Its been a while. I got a lot to do.
33 minute video I kept having to rewind, took me an hour. Thanks man I really enjoyed it, and your cat might have either a flashlight or became an elder god.
I also love how in the Devshorts and Prime Time streams they often bring up other games they are playing. They can only do that because they have made a game that respects players time and let's the player go and play other games (if they want to). The developers at DE love playing games and want to make a game for other people who like playing games which means you need to have time to play other games and not force you to only play one like a lot of Live Service games try and force you to do
This is a really, really good point. The amount of times I've heard Reb or Megan talk about BG3 or Elden Ring or...god I think I remember them talking about spending a weekend playing DOOM 2016? That's something you'd never see the community representatives of another MMO do on their official company streams, but DE does it every week and it clearly hasn't put a dent in the player count.
But that's the thing about DE. They have confidence in their product, which they've earned. When you know you've got the best hamburgers in town, you can compliment the local Mexican joint without fear of losing all your customers because the next time they want a burger, they'll be back. And when they're eating their tacos and enjoying them, they'll be thinking of you.
Of course, you have to actually make a good product first. That seems to be where most other studios fail, heh.
Honestly, I would love if Fighter Frame became a more polished and more prominent part of Warframe. I've always thought that It would be awesome if DE made an ARPG with the frames as the classes. The overall concept they've come up with is great and would make a perfect drop in for so many other genres.
Dude we all wish frame fighter could have been more. Or the k-drive needing a movement rework, or conclave getting actually good game modes like nechramech vs nechramech or corpus vs grineer. They have alot of stuff that's puddle deep that we'd all love to see taken further. Like railjack being taken openworld to go planet to planet.
@@stemaster Agreed. Frame Fighter has just been around so long and I'm personally a huge fighting game fan. So I got extremely excited when they released it and have been at least mildly disappointed at every update that didn't include a more polished version.
I also don't play conclave because it just feels so erratic. Personally I think that the movement of Warframe is a key selling point, but putting it in PVP is a bit much. If they removed bullet jumping I would probably play it more. I also think that a necramech or operator only mode (without invulnerability or void dash) would be a suitable solution.
DE just abandons a lot of cool additions to the game
Remember when nightwave with its episodes was a thing
people loved it
I mean the grind was a little bit much but it’s warframe the grind is the game
Saturn six wolf was cool as f***
And don’t even get me started on lunaro my favorite side content of the game which didn’t really go anywhere cuz DE didn’t expand on it
I’m not sure why they don’t continue it
But it’s probably cuz they have to focus on the next mainline update for the game
and their staff not as big but it would be great if we could have just an entire year of fixing and expanding these side contents just so there’s more to do in the game than killing hordes.
@@whysoserious4274 Yeah, it's probably the same reason they dropped the raids. Adding complexity to the modes that people don't play as much just means more work on the backend to ensure they still function with each patch.
They now have a vision for the main game and what they want it to become. Constantly maintaining things that a few thousand people play just cannot compare with the main game.
Sadly once they start putting effort into the little side projects will probably be around the same time the main game starts to stagnate again.
If you want PvP, then you playing the wrong game. Conclave must be removed completely.
26:20 Ayy that's my hollowframe poster in the back!! Such a prime example of how well DE (especially Rebb) treats their community, showcasing the art and creations of their players at every turn and giving the playerbase as much attention as they would like in return. I was invited into the creator program last December and I still can't get over it, from the direct and casual lines of communication with members of the team to the free Tennocon VIP passes and so so much more it's actually nuts. Truly an amazing studio and an amazing game ❤
I'm not sure where I would be without this stupid game lol, I'm an art major in college rn but I don't think I could've maintained my love for art and improved as much as I have without such a lovingly made game and community like Warframe
These "game devs" are full of s... Imagine an incompetent bricklayer, he hates building houses and hates his customers, one day he becomes unemployed or can't get freelance work anymore and the problem is that the customers don't like the houses he builds? what a thing huh.
I think if anything any "legitimate" qualms a dev has with a player base can come down to the fact that games are as much of an art form media as books or movies. Where you're making artistic choices because you want to to convey something in the implementation of a game, or make some sort of statement. That said, being a subjective topic means there is no right way to do it and that can mean alienation when something doesn't land. No one is obligated to appreciate your *bIg PiCtUrE gRanD vIsIoN*
But when there's objectively bad things though? Gaslighting justifications will never work. If there's a limitation in the engine or a legal restriction just come out and say it. Sure, you'll get armchair devs when any excuse sounds technical, but if they don't know what they're doing it'll be easy to dispute and if not, well you might have actually learned something from someone and they may have fixed it for you there in that forum post, send that dude a care package.
Guess what I'm saying is, yeah, it's pretty wild when you fuse technology and art, and end up with people that are fall very flat with one, the other, or both and assume they have enough authority in them to need little to no improvement in either facet.
The Helldivers 2 devs need to read this. The game's review score is tanking yet again because Arrowhead just refuses to listen.
@@qu1253 heh, yeah huh? Pilestedt is like their Rebecca, but I'm getting the impression that there's some internal disconnect that allows these things to keep happening, which is a shame because he seems every bit as passionate as Rebb is.
Man, I really appreciate the lack of cuts in your monologues. You've got an uncanny knack for following a train of thought for minutes on end without mincing words or repeating yourself - truly a focused dude who knows what he wants to say and how to say it. Also love your nuanced takes on the shit you talk about. Hope this channel keeps growing like it deserves to. Keep up the good work, dude.
I've bought about 80 dollars of plat, and I know a friend who bought 100 dollars worth. For both of us, it's not because we needed to, far from it. It's cause we love the shit out of this game.