Here is that link I mentioned about a professional getting blood on the wood showing why not to use a SRG on cross grain projects th-cam.com/video/IOhHeyoZLaY/w-d-xo.html
Mike, I always come away a better turner from watching your videos. I'm self taught, so yours and Sam Angelos videos along with a few others, have really helped me. I started out with a homemade lathe and a set of Harbor Freight turning tools. I only paid $9.95 for the set. My wife called me cheap. I gave my 14" Jet to my son, after Santa brought me a new 18" Jet. I've been retired for almost 15 years and my turning has made it possible for me to keep my sanity. You and Sam make me feel like I'm being schooled by two Professors, with your abilities to make things so easy to understand.
Lot's of great information, Mike. My only quibble is with your tool recommendation. I USED to be an advocate of new turners buying some inexpensive tools, such as the Harbor Freight 'Windsor Designs' tools or 'Benjamin's Best' tools from a number of different sources. I made that recommendation for two reasons. First, when you're first starting out, learning to sharpen can be intimidating. It takes practice to learn how to do it properly. If your tools are fairly expensive, most of us are reluctant to sharpen them as often as necessary. The result is the new turner is often trying to learn how to turn with dull and improperly shaped tools. That can be very frustrating! (Been there. Done that.) The second reason is I got lucky. The first set of Harbor Freight tools that I bought were very decent. As expected, there are too many marks left from machining, but some hand work by me (a lot of hand work) addressed that issue. And, the HSS was of very good quality. It sharpens and holds an edge very well. Why have I changed my mind? I bought a second Harbor Freight tool set when it was on sale (these were the supposedly nicer 'dark handle' set). Most of them were junk. The HSS simply will not hold an edge. At about the same time, my family decided to buy me a ton of Benjamin's Best tools for Christmas. (I'd made the mistake of going through the PSI catalog and marking some tool designs I was interested in getting -- some day, from a different brand. Someone found the catalog and ....) The Benjamin's Best tools were also mostly junk. I spent hours trying to clean up the mill marks. Once that was done, most of the tools would not hold an edge. My concern is NOT just that buying cheap tools is a crap shoot in terms of quality. My concern is a newbie won't have the experience necessary to know if it's the tool or the turner that's the problem. Had I started turning with the bad set of HF tools, I would have given up. With those tools, you cannot get good results. Within a second or two, the edge is shot! You cannot learn to turn with a perpetually dull set of tools! As a newbie, I would have concluded I simply could not learn how to sharpen or learn how to turn. So, that's why I now recommend a newbie buy a minimum number of tools, but to get all those tools from a reputable maker.
Thanks for providing your experience. I guess I got lucky on that one HF SRG. But I agree that one of the biggest issue with the cheap Chinese tools is poor quality control and some poor heat treating. I guess my message was a bit mixed about buying the best tool you can afford and then mentioning pretty good experience with this one tool that might imply I encourage turners to go out and buy a HF set of tools. I did get some very poor tools in my HF set but a few of the tools are still serving me well after regrinding into a specialty scraper.
Great informational video Mike. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I had 3 or 4 SRG's, then I bought a Carter and Son's SRG. The others went away and I use it exclusively. I did learn to sharpen with the HF and Ben's Best tools. Also learned to buy quality tools as I could afford them. Again, Thanks for sharing. Take care, Dave
I just completed my very first bowl and because of people like you and Phil Anderson and The Papa 1947 and Sam Angelo it was a lot easier and turned out great. If it wasn't for you all I wouldn't of got this far! Thank you.
thanks Mike. Picked up a couple of very useful tips there. I was lucky to get an Ashley Iles "Reg Sherwin" roughing gouge with my second hand lathe. It is a solid bar gouge with a very deep flute. I found it intimidating at first, but now it's my goto gouge for turning old fashioned style dipping pens.
Enjoy your videos. Curious, the grind angle is targeted at 45°. But you present the tool at about 90° to the spindle. So you don’t ride the bevel of a SRG?
I present the tool with the bevel rubbing at 90 degrees with the handle low. Lift the handle till the edge starts to cut. Then control the cut by inclining the flute in the direction of the cut with the edge slicing at about 45 degrees.
Thank you for giving this word, that a spindle roughing gouge has NO place on a bowl blank. Mike you said you were going to put up a link to a demo of how not to use a SRG. I’m not seeing it anywhere. Could you add it somewhere please? Thanks for all you do.
@@MikePeaceWoodturning wow, of all people. The folks in that demo won’t forget that lesson. I don’t know if you had heard, he just had heart surgery. Doing well and should be back behind a lathe pretty soon.
Hello Mike I was hoping you can help me with a problem that I have with my lathe I recently put a spindle adapter on my 3/4x10 tpi lathe to convert to 1x8 tpi I then put my jaw chuck on there to turn a piece of wood, now my chuck and adapter is stuck on the lathe. Do you have any tips?
Open the chuck jaws wide enough to put a long piece of steel with one end stick out a ways. I use a long thin pry bar, maybe 14 long. Tighten the jaws on the bar and wack down on the end witha mallet. If the adapter breaks free with the chuck, just leave the adapter on the chuck. If the chuck comes off but not the adapter. You need to grap it tight with some vice grips so you will have some leverage. You need to find out why it is sticking. A burr, loose fit before turning on the lathe or whatever.
mike i love your videos but i have never found a roughing gouge that will square a 4 corner square without it not bouncing and tearing the wood out of it,,not cutting it reguardless of how much you sharpening it,,,,nornmally i use a bowl gouge and start on the end and come across with it,,,so much easier,,,,,i guess its just me,,,but i never use a spindle gouge,,,never ever had any luck with one
It is not luck. Respectfully, if it is always bouncing and tearing the wood, perhaps it is your technique. Does it appear my cuts in the video show your problems? Are you scraping or slicing?
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Here is that link I mentioned about a professional getting blood on the wood showing why not to use a SRG on cross grain projects th-cam.com/video/IOhHeyoZLaY/w-d-xo.html
I just learned why i should need to use this tool. I been using a bowl gauge. Bigger, sharper.
I will start used spindle gauge
.
Mike, I always come away a better turner from watching your videos. I'm self taught, so yours and Sam Angelos videos along with a few others, have really helped me. I started
out with a homemade lathe and a set of Harbor Freight turning tools. I only paid $9.95
for the set. My wife called me cheap. I gave my 14" Jet to my son, after Santa brought
me a new 18" Jet. I've been retired for almost 15 years and my turning has made it
possible for me to keep my sanity. You and Sam make me feel like I'm being schooled
by two Professors, with your abilities to make things so easy to understand.
Thanks for that feedback, Gerald! I appreciate it very much.
Lot's of great information, Mike. My only quibble is with your tool recommendation. I USED to be an advocate of new turners buying some inexpensive tools, such as the Harbor Freight 'Windsor Designs' tools or 'Benjamin's Best' tools from a number of different sources. I made that recommendation for two reasons. First, when you're first starting out, learning to sharpen can be intimidating. It takes practice to learn how to do it properly. If your tools are fairly expensive, most of us are reluctant to sharpen them as often as necessary. The result is the new turner is often trying to learn how to turn with dull and improperly shaped tools. That can be very frustrating! (Been there. Done that.)
The second reason is I got lucky. The first set of Harbor Freight tools that I bought were very decent. As expected, there are too many marks left from machining, but some hand work by me (a lot of hand work) addressed that issue. And, the HSS was of very good quality. It sharpens and holds an edge very well.
Why have I changed my mind? I bought a second Harbor Freight tool set when it was on sale (these were the supposedly nicer 'dark handle' set). Most of them were junk. The HSS simply will not hold an edge. At about the same time, my family decided to buy me a ton of Benjamin's Best tools for Christmas. (I'd made the mistake of going through the PSI catalog and marking some tool designs I was interested in getting -- some day, from a different brand. Someone found the catalog and ....) The Benjamin's Best tools were also mostly junk. I spent hours trying to clean up the mill marks. Once that was done, most of the tools would not hold an edge.
My concern is NOT just that buying cheap tools is a crap shoot in terms of quality. My concern is a newbie won't have the experience necessary to know if it's the tool or the turner that's the problem. Had I started turning with the bad set of HF tools, I would have given up. With those tools, you cannot get good results. Within a second or two, the edge is shot! You cannot learn to turn with a perpetually dull set of tools! As a newbie, I would have concluded I simply could not learn how to sharpen or learn how to turn. So, that's why I now recommend a newbie buy a minimum number of tools, but to get all those tools from a reputable maker.
Thanks for providing your experience. I guess I got lucky on that one HF SRG. But I agree that one of the biggest issue with the cheap Chinese tools is poor quality control and some poor heat treating. I guess my message was a bit mixed about buying the best tool you can afford and then mentioning pretty good experience with this one tool that might imply I encourage turners to go out and buy a HF set of tools. I did get some very poor tools in my HF set but a few of the tools are still serving me well after regrinding into a specialty scraper.
Well said, ran into the same experience, went to a class and used their tools and it rocked my world.
Painter never learn on cheap brushes. Learn correctly..brush is your tool.
I always learn something new from your videos Mike. 😊 👍 Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Glad to hear it!
Great informational video Mike. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I had 3 or 4 SRG's, then I bought a Carter and Son's SRG. The others went away and I use it exclusively. I did learn to sharpen with the HF and Ben's Best tools. Also learned to buy quality tools as I could afford them. Again, Thanks for sharing.
Take care, Dave
Yep, buy quality and cry once.
Wait a minute, I always turn left handed! 😆😆😆 And yes, I enjoy your videos a lot. Thanks.
Glad you like them!
Don't get blood on the wood.....good advice. Doing some research on a SRG video. This one is well done. Sam
Thanks, Sam. Yes, that is a cardinal rule.
@@MikePeaceWoodturning i’m afraid to watch that video. The one you left the link.
I just completed my very first bowl and because of people like you and Phil Anderson and The Papa 1947 and Sam Angelo it was a lot easier and turned out great. If it wasn't for you all I wouldn't of got this far! Thank you.
That is awesome!
Great summary video. Very helpful.
Glad you think so!
Great instruction Mike.
Thanks, Jack.
thanks Mike. Picked up a couple of very useful tips there. I was lucky to get an Ashley Iles "Reg Sherwin" roughing gouge with my second hand lathe. It is a solid bar gouge with a very deep flute. I found it intimidating at first, but now it's my goto gouge for turning old fashioned style dipping pens.
Good stuff!
As always great information for all turners Mike
Take care and stay safe and well
Cheers
Harold
Thanks, Harold. U2
Mike, I really enjoy your videos and I think I will write the cardinal rule on the white board in my shop. Great advice!
Please do! Whatever job aids work for you!
Good job, Mike. Very thorough. Thanks.
Mike, thanks for another great video to add to my library!
Glad it was helpful!
Good tutorial Mike. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Enjoy your videos. Curious, the grind angle is targeted at 45°. But you present the tool at about 90° to the spindle. So you don’t ride the bevel of a SRG?
I present the tool with the bevel rubbing at 90 degrees with the handle low. Lift the handle till the edge starts to cut. Then control the cut by inclining the flute in the direction of the cut with the edge slicing at about 45 degrees.
Thank you for giving this word, that a spindle roughing gouge has NO place
on a bowl blank. Mike you said you were going to put up a link to a demo of how not to use a SRG. I’m not seeing it anywhere. Could you add it somewhere please?
Thanks for all you do.
Thanks so much for catching that. I added the link and also put it in a pinned comment.
@@MikePeaceWoodturning wow, of all people. The folks in that demo won’t forget that lesson. I don’t know if you had heard, he just had heart surgery. Doing well and should be back behind a lathe pretty soon.
@@DougMilleratWoodSpunRound Thanks for the update.
LOL; Cry once. Sad but true. Thanks Mike.
Hello Mike I was hoping you can help me with a problem that I have with my lathe I recently put a spindle adapter on my 3/4x10 tpi lathe to convert to 1x8 tpi I then put my jaw chuck on there to turn a piece of wood, now my chuck and adapter is stuck on the lathe. Do you have any tips?
Open the chuck jaws wide enough to put a long piece of steel with one end stick out a ways. I use a long thin pry bar, maybe 14 long. Tighten the jaws on the bar and wack down on the end witha mallet. If the adapter breaks free with the chuck, just leave the adapter on the chuck. If the chuck comes off but not the adapter. You need to grap it tight with some vice grips so you will have some leverage. You need to find out why it is sticking. A burr, loose fit before turning on the lathe or whatever.
You wack the chuck counterclockwise correct? To get it loose?
@@tannerking4130 Yes.
mike i love your videos but i have never found a roughing gouge that will square a 4 corner square without it not bouncing and tearing the wood out of it,,not cutting it reguardless of how much you sharpening it,,,,nornmally i use a bowl gouge and start on the end and come across with it,,,so much easier,,,,,i guess its just me,,,but i never use a spindle gouge,,,never ever had any luck with one
It is not luck. Respectfully, if it is always bouncing and tearing the wood, perhaps it is your technique. Does it appear my cuts in the video show your problems? Are you scraping or slicing?