I'm having a few drinks and just wanna add my somewhat relative two cents. I was the very proud owner of one good American Bulldog and one amazing one, but she was too hot to be an ideal farm dog. She woulda been a great catch. Hog and even bull baiting dog. I literally seen her attack huge aggressive live stock with no fear. I was young and made mistakes handling her. But a great bulldog doesn't have to be a certain look or even a certain breed. My brother had two amstaffs. They were both neutered and best friends but they still fought to the death. The one that survived is a great bulldog. He's a watch/guard dog. But we have no worries about him biting a stranger that visits and is not attacking a family member. He's a hunting dog. A smart companion dog. He's about 80 pounds and has great cardio. Head absolutely gorgeous, blue and white. He has a powerful head and jaw but his muzzle is long enough to run all day. And unlike my wild female bulldog this guy can be trained to leave pet cats alone but he'll kill all the other animals unless you telll/ train him not to. He killed a ton of totes foxes and even his brother amstaff (two males). He's not a lawsuit waiting to happen as long as he has a good owner. I don't worry about him biting anyone. But if he don't know you, your sure as hell not getting outta your vehicle. He has no papers. We got him for free from and Indian reservation. He's over 10 years old, still lives with my alcoholic old man, giving him companionship on the farm up in Canada and scaring away any would thieves or criminals. When a dog like that is about two to 3 months old and you spend some time with him. You can usually tell if he's smart brave and a good dog. O ly thing you can't tell is will their hips go. But it's not to common with mut back yard pits and amstaffs in my opinion. Don't get me wrong a real breeder like yourself is gonna pretty much guarantee the best chances that you get the best healthiest dog. But some of them throw away (pitbulls) that are really amstaffs can be good companion pets and catch dogs a lot of the time. It's not to common to find one with watch/ Guard dog abilities. I guess to sum up my drunken rambling, a real bulldog breeder like your self is the best chance at a great dog. But a back yard amstaffs/pit rottweiler has a better chance at doing all around bulldog work than them smashed in face mutants that show breeders are calling American bulldogs and charging a 3 grand for. We bought a show bred German Shepard when I was a kid. Cost a fortune, dog was a coward, afraid of other dogs, adults, but was brave enought to want to attack and fight little kids like toddlers. Our back yard Shepard was 1000 times the dog as that show bred mutt.
Thanks for the comment my friend. I agree with what you said. If people ain’t breeding for behavioral traits and just looks then chances are them dogs aren’t going to do any real type of work. Speaking on the hips situation I went to get some of my dogs hip tested a couple of years back and boy the confusion on all the vets faces when I had questions for them. After speaking to several different vets in Tennessee about the PennHip evaluation and the OFA I decided not to go forward with any of that testing. When my pups are young my vet will do a physical examination of them by touching and squeezing and seeing if they are set properly. After that it’s 90% nutrition and diet. Genetics actually play a small role into that. Two dogs with good hips can produce dogs with bad hips and two dogs with bad hips can produce dogs with good hips. I’ve had two vets tell me it’s all in the diet and how you feed them as a pup. I think the hip evaluation is a money grab. OFA told me they will do a pre certification before the age of two years old and then at two years old certify them but I needed to bring them back every two years to have them x rayed and re-certified. So if the dogs hips are good at two years old and I get the “OK” to breed them but then the hips are not “OK” at 4 years old, did I really have a dog with good hips? Plus traumatic events and wear and tear can cause bad reading so they can’t tell if it’s genetic or from physical activity. I got so frustrated and started doing the health testing through embark and left it at that. If the dogs are still running and working good at 8,10, even 12 years old I’d say that’s good enough test for me.
Good info as always. I have to say of all my research into the American Bulldogs, which can be quite confusing at times, I constantly refer back to the knowledge you've gathered up and shared here.
It’s definitely confusing and I think that stems from dishonesty at times and sometimes it could be plain old folklore. It’s still interesting though but one thing I’ve come to the conclusion of is I don’t think there is 1 true story but several true stories because everyone had their different experiences with these dogs. The more information I gather I can see how it all connects at the end of the day. I’ve had people tell me stories and give me information and could swear up and down they were just lying through their teeth but months down the road find more information that solidifies what they said. I’ve learned to just gather and not react so sudden anymore. Thanks for tuning in and commenting my friend I really appreciate it and it helps the channel so much. God bless
Idk if the old Bulldogs from England were allways a solid white, some were solid white. I've looked at old paintings and they seemed to be a base white at least. A while back I bought a nice copy of the painting Crib & Rosa, the 1800's original is a different than the copy.
I never said Bulldogs from England were all white. I said the White English bulldogs in the Southern United States were White. Not all of them were solid white but most were predominantly white. Sorry for any confusion.
Great video. I still think Mac the Masher had old Bullenbeisser blood. His color, build and head are more like the Bullenbeisser then the old Cubans or other Spanish wardogs. If you look at The Brindle Bulldog nowadays they look and act very similar like the old Cuban or Spanish wardogs only a bit smaller. Sadly its impossible to research the possible impact the Bullenbeisser had on the current American Bulldog.
I think the Bullenbeisser definitely plays a role in our Bulldogs in some form or fashion but it’s impossible to prove the direct influence because they haven’t been around for so long but we do know that the Boxer has ties to the Bullenbeisser and we also know that the Boxer has influence in our American Bulldogs today.
I remember a friend of mine telling me about a brindle bulldog his uncle had when we were an 10 or 11 year old kid. Quoting from memory he stated that it was mean , would fight and kill most any animal and it hateed people, hit tried to bite him supposedly. He told me this story after being at my house where he met my ~ 3 month old pit bull / American bulldog cross. The pup look markedly similar to Mac the masher with a brindle eye patch. My pups sire was an American bulldog in name ,he was solid brindle. He would catch anything, his owner related numerous stories about it chasing deer wnd coming home 2or 3 days later covered in ..... The sire was purchased from the back of a pickup truck at Cartersville flea market in Cartersville,Ga. This dog exhibeted the same disposition you mentioned in the video he didn't like people or animals. The dam was a registered black apbt/ amstaff. We grew up in rural south east Tennessee, literally 5 miles from the base big Sand mountain, Alabama.
Nice, very cool story. You weren’t too far from where we’re at. I enjoy hearing real experiences with these dogs. Sand mountain has deep roots in all of these southern Bulldogs.
@brandonguinn9086 - 👍🏻 got ya. I’m not far from Marion County at all. We’re almost in Grundy. Thanks for sharing. I’d really like to find more people along the Plateau that maybe had some of these dogs. We’re too close to where all the stories take place for them to have not migrated North a little. John D Johnson got the original Sandman from Lookout Mountain, Tennessee so I know they were here too. Thanks again for sharing and watching my friend.
@@prideofthesouthlandkennelsSounds a bit crazy,but I would love to go on a southern bulldog expedition. I'm sure there is some old blood or at least people that would remember these dogs, out and about in the hollers and mountains. Sherwood, TN. Mount Eagle, Tracy mountain, Sand mountain. Sorry to go on and on,but I'm passionate about this Type of dog.
I'm having a few drinks and just wanna add my somewhat relative two cents. I was the very proud owner of one good American Bulldog and one amazing one, but she was too hot to be an ideal farm dog. She woulda been a great catch. Hog and even bull baiting dog. I literally seen her attack huge aggressive live stock with no fear. I was young and made mistakes handling her.
But a great bulldog doesn't have to be a certain look or even a certain breed. My brother had two amstaffs. They were both neutered and best friends but they still fought to the death.
The one that survived is a great bulldog. He's a watch/guard dog. But we have no worries about him biting a stranger that visits and is not attacking a family member. He's a hunting dog. A smart companion dog. He's about 80 pounds and has great cardio. Head absolutely gorgeous, blue and white. He has a powerful head and jaw but his muzzle is long enough to run all day. And unlike my wild female bulldog this guy can be trained to leave pet cats alone but he'll kill all the other animals unless you telll/ train him not to. He killed a ton of totes foxes and even his brother amstaff (two males). He's not a lawsuit waiting to happen as long as he has a good owner. I don't worry about him biting anyone. But if he don't know you, your sure as hell not getting outta your vehicle. He has no papers. We got him for free from and Indian reservation. He's over 10 years old, still lives with my alcoholic old man, giving him companionship on the farm up in Canada and scaring away any would thieves or criminals.
When a dog like that is about two to 3 months old and you spend some time with him. You can usually tell if he's smart brave and a good dog. O ly thing you can't tell is will their hips go. But it's not to common with mut back yard pits and amstaffs in my opinion.
Don't get me wrong a real breeder like yourself is gonna pretty much guarantee the best chances that you get the best healthiest dog. But some of them throw away (pitbulls) that are really amstaffs can be good companion pets and catch dogs a lot of the time. It's not to common to find one with watch/ Guard dog abilities. I guess to sum up my drunken rambling, a real bulldog breeder like your self is the best chance at a great dog. But a back yard amstaffs/pit rottweiler has a better chance at doing all around bulldog work than them smashed in face mutants that show breeders are calling American bulldogs and charging a 3 grand for. We bought a show bred German Shepard when I was a kid. Cost a fortune, dog was a coward, afraid of other dogs, adults, but was brave enought to want to attack and fight little kids like toddlers. Our back yard Shepard was 1000 times the dog as that show bred mutt.
Thanks for the comment my friend. I agree with what you said. If people ain’t breeding for behavioral traits and just looks then chances are them dogs aren’t going to do any real type of work. Speaking on the hips situation I went to get some of my dogs hip tested a couple of years back and boy the confusion on all the vets faces when I had questions for them. After speaking to several different vets in Tennessee about the PennHip evaluation and the OFA I decided not to go forward with any of that testing. When my pups are young my vet will do a physical examination of them by touching and squeezing and seeing if they are set properly. After that it’s 90% nutrition and diet. Genetics actually play a small role into that. Two dogs with good hips can produce dogs with bad hips and two dogs with bad hips can produce dogs with good hips. I’ve had two vets tell me it’s all in the diet and how you feed them as a pup. I think the hip evaluation is a money grab. OFA told me they will do a pre certification before the age of two years old and then at two years old certify them but I needed to bring them back every two years to have them x rayed and re-certified. So if the dogs hips are good at two years old and I get the “OK” to breed them but then the hips are not “OK” at 4 years old, did I really have a dog with good hips? Plus traumatic events and wear and tear can cause bad reading so they can’t tell if it’s genetic or from physical activity. I got so frustrated and started doing the health testing through embark and left it at that. If the dogs are still running and working good at 8,10, even 12 years old I’d say that’s good enough test for me.
Good info as always. I have to say of all my research into the American Bulldogs, which can be quite confusing at times, I constantly refer back to the knowledge you've gathered up and shared here.
It’s definitely confusing and I think that stems from dishonesty at times and sometimes it could be plain old folklore. It’s still interesting though but one thing I’ve come to the conclusion of is I don’t think there is 1 true story but several true stories because everyone had their different experiences with these dogs. The more information I gather I can see how it all connects at the end of the day. I’ve had people tell me stories and give me information and could swear up and down they were just lying through their teeth but months down the road find more information that solidifies what they said. I’ve learned to just gather and not react so sudden anymore. Thanks for tuning in and commenting my friend I really appreciate it and it helps the channel so much. God bless
Your on the right track. Pls see my comments on your osb video
@Omg-kungfu - I responded to you over there and had a couple of questions actually. Thanks again.
Great video man brundle dogs will always be my favorite
Thank you for the kind words. I am partial to the brindle as well, any shade will do.
Good show brother 👊💪
Thank you buddy. I appreciate you always tuning in and commenting. It really helps the channel my friend.
@@prideofthesouthlandkennels the American Bulldog was a big part of my life at one time, keep up the great work!👊🫡
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@@DickieFoster74There He Is!🫡🌌💫
Idk if the old Bulldogs from England were allways a solid white, some were solid white. I've looked at old paintings and they seemed to be a base white at least. A while back I bought a nice copy of the painting Crib & Rosa, the 1800's original is a different than the copy.
I never said Bulldogs from England were all white. I said the White English bulldogs in the Southern United States were White. Not all of them were solid white but most were predominantly white. Sorry for any confusion.
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Thanks very informing ,would you doe a sketch about catahoula bulldogs one day
I’m not sure how much information is out there on them.
Interesting brother
Thank you buddy I appreciate you tuning in and commenting.
Great video. I still think Mac the Masher had old Bullenbeisser blood. His color, build and head are more like the Bullenbeisser then the old Cubans or other Spanish wardogs.
If you look at The Brindle Bulldog nowadays they look and act very similar like the old Cuban or Spanish wardogs only a bit smaller.
Sadly its impossible to research the possible impact the Bullenbeisser had on the current American Bulldog.
I think the Bullenbeisser definitely plays a role in our Bulldogs in some form or fashion but it’s impossible to prove the direct influence because they haven’t been around for so long but we do know that the Boxer has ties to the Bullenbeisser and we also know that the Boxer has influence in our American Bulldogs today.
I remember a friend of mine telling me about a brindle bulldog his uncle had when we were an 10 or 11 year old kid. Quoting from memory he stated that it was mean , would fight and kill most any animal and it hateed people, hit tried to bite him supposedly. He told me this story after being at my house where he met my ~ 3 month old pit bull / American bulldog cross. The pup look markedly similar to Mac the masher with a brindle eye patch.
My pups sire was an American bulldog in name ,he was solid brindle. He would catch anything, his owner related numerous stories about it chasing deer wnd coming home 2or 3 days later covered in ..... The sire was purchased from the back of a pickup truck at Cartersville flea market in Cartersville,Ga. This dog exhibeted the same disposition you mentioned in the video he didn't like people or animals.
The dam was a registered black apbt/ amstaff.
We grew up in rural south east Tennessee, literally 5 miles from the base big Sand mountain, Alabama.
Nice, very cool story. You weren’t too far from where we’re at. I enjoy hearing real experiences with these dogs. Sand mountain has deep roots in all of these southern Bulldogs.
Were you around South Pittsburgh at that time?
@@prideofthesouthlandkennels let's just say Marion county.
@brandonguinn9086 - 👍🏻 got ya. I’m not far from Marion County at all. We’re almost in Grundy. Thanks for sharing. I’d really like to find more people along the Plateau that maybe had some of these dogs. We’re too close to where all the stories take place for them to have not migrated North a little. John D Johnson got the original Sandman from Lookout Mountain, Tennessee so I know they were here too. Thanks again for sharing and watching my friend.
@@prideofthesouthlandkennelsSounds a bit crazy,but I would love to go on a southern bulldog expedition. I'm sure there is some old blood or at least people that would remember these dogs, out and about in the hollers and mountains. Sherwood, TN. Mount Eagle, Tracy mountain, Sand mountain.
Sorry to go on and on,but I'm passionate about this Type of dog.