Wow! Sounds like a beast! I agree in regard to the enhanced aggressiveness - not my thing either, it does sound good and will sound great once you tweak the tune. Nice clips!
I understand your concern… you’ll never be 100% satisfied… its normal feel like that at first. 1) bm3 you can tone down your cold start 2) put the resonator back so it can reduce the drone. Vrsf is designed for the stock exhaust setup.
those excessive pops are not coming from the downpipe but the the awe tuning exhaust.... also if you are looking for an awesome high flow cat.... there is the TNEER 200 cell cat.... It's what I have and I love how that thing sounds....
I ran the AWE exhaust with OEM DP for at least a year. Adding the VRSF DP made the pops louder and more aggressive. But yeah I think both make a difference. And I haven't heard of that brand but I'll check it out
Man that thing sounds viscious, I'm about to get a high flow catted downpipe as well & will be paired with a cat back non resonated exhaust, but the good thing is it's valvetronic so it's loud when I want it to be but when valves are closed it's nice & quiet
Hi was wondering what’s your thoughts on the catted instead of the catless. I’ve just installed a catless VSRF as well however I’m not liking the exhaust gas smells. Was thinking of going back to a high flow catted but unsure if it will be any different in terms on the exhaust smells. Thanks
I turned the burbles way down after this video. It’s very annoying when it just keeps going off every time you let off the gas. Wasn’t like that before the VRSF downpipe.
I’m in the same boat I have a MPE muffler with a res delete, when I put the high flow DP on I couldn’t believe how loud the cold start was. It’s so loud dude, no video on TH-cam really gives you an idea how loud that cold start is. I ended putting the stock DP back on till I can figure out a solution so it’s not so loud. Even with the valve closed with the MPE the cold start was ridiculous. Not neighbor friendly at all.
I disabled cold start. I just let it warm up for a few minutes before I start driving the car now. I will probably put my stock resonated midpipe back on.
That sounds perfect imo, the only thing is I would want is a little bit more pops. Just mild pops, not the annoying gunshots. This might be dumb question, but when you say "catted" does that mean the cats have been decatted or that it still has them? My brain just keep relating "catted" to "gutted"
I'm getting this catted downpipe, don't care bout my neighbors lol . Im assuming that exhaust added the sound level also. I have a hybrid accord also I use early in the morning for work . At the end of the day do what makes you happy . That salty look your neighbors might give you is envy you got a cool car . 💪🏽
Just got mine at 82k and i did Oil return line, upper radiator hose, oil filter housing gasket, and oil coolant gasket, diff fluid changed, and air cabin filter done for $1700
I noticed a very small performance gain. I also noticed the temp gauge would stay slightly lower during aggressive driving. Both of these differences were very subtle though. My main reason for installing this downpipe was because it is required for running a stage 2 tune.
Hi mate could you please explain the difference between the normal decat downpipe and the high flow catted downpipe? Why not just choose the catless one?
The high flow DP still has a catalytic converter, but it is a less restrictive cat than the stock one. My main reason for buying it was so I could use the stage 2 tune, which requires an aftermarket DP. I selected the high flow DP over catless because it's not as loud as the catless DP. I have a full exhaust already and didn't want the car being too loud. And it also doesn't smell as much. Some cars with catless DP have a lot of exhaust gas smell.
Too late for the Party... but I have a VRSF CATLESS Downpipe, my MHD stage 2+ allows me to tune down the burbles... but now I'm switching for a Highflow catted DP only because of smell, when you stop at a red light, in your Garage, or if you are driving slowly, you smell the burnt fuel a lot... and you will wear it like a perfume in your office meeti😅
2 years ago but what was your experience like with the VRSF 200 cell catted downpipe? I have a Supra and want to add a hi flo catted downpipe but not pay stupid prices like $1,500.
I’m looking for performance gains. I, too, would rather it wasn’t too loud. I love the awe sound but agree with the downpipe it may be a bit much. I have to find out if my tune allows for adjusting settings such as cold start and burbles. Would it make sense to get the downpipe and axle back awe exhaust? What would the ideal set up be in your opinion. Not looking for drone or extremely loud cold starts.
The axleback with a catted downpipe would be a nice setup. The cold starts would still be pretty loud, but not as bad as the non resonated version. And there isn't much drone after it warms up.
@@burakcaliskan5857 the axle back can slightly improve hp if it flows better than the OEM muffler. But the main reason I do it is because it sounds really good
I didn't. The sound calmed down a little after about 100 miles of driving with the new down pipe. I ended up just getting used to the sound and leaving it alone. Cold starts are very loud though.
Hey bro do you get any in cabin smells? I'm catless and the smell is really bad, wondering if adding a high fliw would completely get rid of it. I drive my little bro around a lot and don't want him smelling that bs
Yeah its less raspy than catless. My high flow cat sounded kind of raspy when I first installed it. But the tone improved as I drove around let it break in. I really like it now.
Any CEL after the High Flow Cat? I just installed High Flow Catted Evolution Racewerks Downpipe my N55 and the CEL came on for “catalyst below efficiency” code. Can I clear this code on BootMod3?
I don't like car too loud too, I wonder how it sound with a Highflow DP and stock muffler on N55 engine, what do you think ? Reason is I want to go Stage 2 on Bootmod3.
That would sound fine assuming you still have your resonator installed. Mine has gotten quieter as I've driven it and given it time to break in. The cold start on mine is still insanely loud though, but that because I have the full AWE exhaust.
@@NWAuto Yeah I feel you man. I like quiet, especially here in the neighborhood where I live. I drive a F10, love the comfort and I don't need noise, otherwise I would had bough a Mustang GT. Anyway, I have to buy the DP because it's a requirement for the Stage II. Enjoy the sound now because it will be all electric quiet soon :D
@@NWAuto dang that kinda sucks. Also does based on your experience does the high flow catted have a bad smell associated with it? Cuz I just had the catless installed the performance is great but the smell is too much for my daily.
@@Saltyfire11 since you have the resonated midpipe, I don't think it will be that much louder. Your cold start will likely be slightly louder. I notice the sound increase on mine when the engine is cold and when I'm accelerating hard or revving it. Not much of a sound difference when just cruising around after the car has warmed up.
@@Saltyfire11 I'm releasing an exhaust clip compilation tomorrow morning. Just two and a half minutes of my best sound clips. You will be even more tempted if you check that out.
@@NWAuto Interesting! i was looking at this downpipe too and read on forums that the catted version wouldn't throw a CEL. Got me excited since i don't want to tune mine (yet)..
@@DemonoIogic I think some people use 02 spacers or something like that. My advice is just buy the tune with it. Unless you have some warranty you're trying to protect
@@NWAuto Thanks for your response! Sadly tuning seems to be the best option then i guess. Since i don't like the idea of the car possibly running too rich or lean :/ Wasn't planning on tuning it this early on tho.
@@DemonoIogic You can continue running the stock map, but use the tune just to disable the CEL. Although I think running Bootmod3 stage 1 or 2 + the Bootmo3 trans flash makes the car drive smoother and better overall
Check out my latest exhaust video: th-cam.com/video/TU24rn_c6go/w-d-xo.html
I totally agree with your style as well. I want something more refined and smooth sounding than raspy and cheap. Getting my F30 tomorrow!!
The sound actually got a lot better after about 100 miles. Congrats on the F30 though. These cars are so much fun to mod.
Just ordered mine yesterday couldn’t be happier going catted instead of catless sounds realll good
Yeah good choice. I will definitely be buying another catted VRSF for my next car.
whats there not to love.. sounds amazing man
It does sound great. But the GoPro I use doesn’t do a good job of picking up how loud it really is. Way louder in person.
Wow! Sounds like a beast! I agree in regard to the enhanced aggressiveness - not my thing either, it does sound good and will sound great once you tweak the tune. Nice clips!
Thanks! I’m gonna be sad when cars all switch to electric. I love a nice exhaust.
The Sound is 🔥🔥🔥
Man that sounds amazing i would not change a thing on it
Yeah the N55 might not be the fastest, but it sounds really good
Fantastic video 💯🤘🏼
Thanks!
Thanks for the video. Thinking of going M Performance Exhaust with the Catted DP with no Midpipe mod. Definitely love my M Performance.
The MPE sounds pretty good. It should be really nice with the downpipe.
This sounds f'in epic mate.Thinking of getting this for my 240i
Yeah highly recommend
@@NWAuto how much more power did you get with the stage 2?
@@phantom2k10 I think the gain is around 20hp to the crank. The gains from stock to stage 1 are a lot bigger.
I understand your concern… you’ll never be 100% satisfied… its normal feel like that at first. 1) bm3 you can tone down your cold start 2) put the resonator back so it can reduce the drone. Vrsf is designed for the stock exhaust setup.
So you're saying if I have a performance exhaust don't get a VRSF?
those excessive pops are not coming from the downpipe but the the awe tuning exhaust.... also if you are looking for an awesome high flow cat.... there is the TNEER 200 cell cat.... It's what I have and I love how that thing sounds....
I ran the AWE exhaust with OEM DP for at least a year. Adding the VRSF DP made the pops louder and more aggressive. But yeah I think both make a difference. And I haven't heard of that brand but I'll check it out
Nice informative video. I definitely want to go with the same setup without the AWE mid pipe.
Keep it up. :)
Yeah the AWE muffler with high flow DP and tune would be really nice.
Might need to do this with mine
It has gotten a little quieter as I've driven it more. I think it just needed to get past the break in period. I highly recommend adding one.
Man that thing sounds viscious, I'm about to get a high flow catted downpipe as well & will be paired with a cat back non resonated exhaust, but the good thing is it's valvetronic so it's loud when I want it to be but when valves are closed it's nice & quiet
I actually had that exact setup on my 340i. VRSF high flow cat, non resonated midpipe, and Valvetronic muffler. Sounded really nice
@@NWAuto Hopefully I can obtain that great sound as well
Hi was wondering what’s your thoughts on the catted instead of the catless. I’ve just installed a catless VSRF as well however I’m not liking the exhaust gas smells. Was thinking of going back to a high flow catted but unsure if it will be any different in terms on the exhaust smells. Thanks
I don’t smell much exhaust gas with the high flow one.
Thanks for the video. Not sure how you can tolerate that much burbles.
I turned the burbles way down after this video. It’s very annoying when it just keeps going off every time you let off the gas. Wasn’t like that before the VRSF downpipe.
I’m in the same boat I have a MPE muffler with a res delete, when I put the high flow DP on I couldn’t believe how loud the cold start was. It’s so loud dude, no video on TH-cam really gives you an idea how loud that cold start is.
I ended putting the stock DP back on till I can figure out a solution so it’s not so loud. Even with the valve closed with the MPE the cold start was ridiculous. Not neighbor friendly at all.
I disabled cold start. I just let it warm up for a few minutes before I start driving the car now. I will probably put my stock resonated midpipe back on.
Was your DP catted?
@@NWAuto if your looking to sell the midpipe please let me know:))
That sounds incredible!! 🥵
Where did you get your wheels from?
Yeah it does sound nice. I got them off Ebay.
In ❤with it
That sounds perfect imo, the only thing is I would want is a little bit more pops. Just mild pops, not the annoying gunshots.
This might be dumb question, but when you say "catted" does that mean the cats have been decatted or that it still has them? My brain just keep relating "catted" to "gutted"
When I say catted I mean it still has a catalytic converter in the downpipe. Its just less restrictive than the OEM one.
I'm getting this catted downpipe, don't care bout my neighbors lol . Im assuming that exhaust added the sound level also. I have a hybrid accord also I use early in the morning for work . At the end of the day do what makes you happy . That salty look your neighbors might give you is envy you got a cool car . 💪🏽
I just make sure to drive slow through the neighborhood so they got nothing to complain about.
Sounds so good 🥵. How’s reliability been with the 335i?
Reliability has been pretty good. I've spent $35 in repairs this year. I'm only at 60k miles though.
NW Auto ah true! After 60k is usually the tell on German cars if they hold up or not
Mine is 94k and I got a valvetronic servomotor malfunction code
Around 80-100k expect gaskets to need replaced which are very expensive if someone else does them for you.
Just got mine at 82k and i did Oil return line, upper radiator hose, oil filter housing gasket, and oil coolant gasket, diff fluid changed, and air cabin filter done for $1700
Did you notice any significant performance gains after the downpipe was installed? Or just for the acoustics?
I noticed a very small performance gain. I also noticed the temp gauge would stay slightly lower during aggressive driving. Both of these differences were very subtle though. My main reason for installing this downpipe was because it is required for running a stage 2 tune.
Hi mate could you please explain the difference between the normal decat downpipe and the high flow catted downpipe? Why not just choose the catless one?
The high flow DP still has a catalytic converter, but it is a less restrictive cat than the stock one. My main reason for buying it was so I could use the stage 2 tune, which requires an aftermarket DP.
I selected the high flow DP over catless because it's not as loud as the catless DP. I have a full exhaust already and didn't want the car being too loud. And it also doesn't smell as much. Some cars with catless DP have a lot of exhaust gas smell.
@@NWAuto Thanks a lot mate!
Also in some countries u may need to pass emissions tests which you will most likely fail with catless.
Too late for the Party... but I have a VRSF CATLESS Downpipe, my MHD stage 2+ allows me to tune down the burbles... but now I'm switching for a Highflow catted DP only because of smell, when you stop at a red light, in your Garage, or if you are driving slowly, you smell the burnt fuel a lot... and you will wear it like a perfume in your office meeti😅
2 years ago but what was your experience like with the VRSF 200 cell catted downpipe? I have a Supra and want to add a hi flo catted downpipe but not pay stupid prices like $1,500.
It was good. No issues. But my friend put a downpipe from Evolutionracewerks on his 340i and it sounded much better than the VRSF downpipe
I’m looking for performance gains. I, too, would rather it wasn’t too loud. I love the awe sound but agree with the downpipe it may be a bit much. I have to find out if my tune allows for adjusting settings such as cold start and burbles. Would it make sense to get the downpipe and axle back awe exhaust? What would the ideal set up be in your opinion. Not looking for drone or extremely loud cold starts.
The axleback with a catted downpipe would be a nice setup. The cold starts would still be pretty loud, but not as bad as the non resonated version. And there isn't much drone after it warms up.
@@NWAuto what does an axle back do ? What’s the difference between only a catted downpipe with the rest of exhaust being stock ?
@@burakcaliskan5857 the axle back can slightly improve hp if it flows better than the OEM muffler. But the main reason I do it is because it sounds really good
Damn! This is what I need older AMG V8-esque growl.. without the purples and pops. Is this even possible on a N20? 🥲
Have you put resonated mid pipe back on and if so is it much better?
I didn't. The sound calmed down a little after about 100 miles of driving with the new down pipe. I ended up just getting used to the sound and leaving it alone. Cold starts are very loud though.
Hey bro do you get any in cabin smells? I'm catless and the smell is really bad, wondering if adding a high fliw would completely get rid of it. I drive my little bro around a lot and don't want him smelling that bs
I don't at all. My brother has an E92 with catless and I smell it in his car. You can try switching to catted.
@@NWAuto great, thanks, so you don't have to recirculate air or anything when driving with closed windows right?
@@willjames734 I don't and I never have any weird smells inside.
@@NWAuto awesome, thanks again for the help, sounds like I'll just get a magnaflow 200cell welded in then
If you put a tune you can eliminate the cold start
Yeah that’s what I ended up doing. Much better now.
Any check engine light with the new downpipe ?
No. But I think that's because I have the tune also.
@@NWAuto what time do you have
@@jovanigrande581I assume you meant tune. I have Bootmod3.
Does the high flow cat give you a check engine light?
Yeah it will eventually. One way to prevent it is using a tune. Another way is to use an O2 sensor spacer.
@@NWAuto what tune do you have
Bootmod3. It’s a really good tune with a lot of cool features. I definitely recommend it.
@@NWAuto what about mhd ?
@@kiingmccoy6383 I haven't tried MHD. But my brother ran it on his E92 and he really liked it.
If I purchase a performance catalytic converter will it pass emissions ? Asking from California 😅
I haven't tried. But I have a feeling even a high flow catted DP won't pass. Keep your stock DP if you need to pass
No problems on passing inspection with high flow?
I did my emissions test right before installing it so I'm not sure. I've heard the catted one will pass.
@@NWAuto yea i heard high flow passes but i wasnt sure
I feel like the down pipe with hi flow cat doesn’t sound as raspy. What do you think?
Yeah its less raspy than catless. My high flow cat sounded kind of raspy when I first installed it. But the tone improved as I drove around let it break in. I really like it now.
Any CEL after the High Flow Cat?
I just installed High Flow Catted Evolution Racewerks Downpipe my N55 and the CEL came on for “catalyst below efficiency” code.
Can I clear this code on BootMod3?
I did get that CEL after like a month of driving with it. I just disabled the Bootmod3 Catalytic Monitors setting in the map config screen.
I don't like car too loud too, I wonder how it sound with a Highflow DP and stock muffler on N55 engine, what do you think ? Reason is I want to go Stage 2 on Bootmod3.
That would sound fine assuming you still have your resonator installed. Mine has gotten quieter as I've driven it and given it time to break in. The cold start on mine is still insanely loud though, but that because I have the full AWE exhaust.
@@NWAuto Yeah I feel you man. I like quiet, especially here in the neighborhood where I live. I drive a F10, love the comfort and I don't need noise, otherwise I would had bough a Mustang GT. Anyway, I have to buy the DP because it's a requirement for the Stage II. Enjoy the sound now because it will be all electric quiet soon :D
@@John-qc1zv Yeah you can disable the cold start if it gets too loud. You will be fine with stock muffler though.
@@NWAuto Thank you
Are you running stock turbos at the time of this video?
Yeah I never upgraded the turbo on this car. I only went to stage 2 OTS map
You dont have a muffler delete correct?
No muffler delete. Running the AWE Touring muffler.
Can aftermarket high flow catted down pipe pass emissions test?
I never tried. But I don't think they will
@@NWAuto dang that kinda sucks. Also does based on your experience does the high flow catted have a bad smell associated with it? Cuz I just had the catless installed the performance is great but the smell is too much for my daily.
@@SportGuyDMV I never had a bad smell with catted
@@NWAuto great thanks for your perspective!
If the sound of an exhaust does not improve the performance of my car, I'd rather not let everybody know that I am on the road.
Then go electric. You must be lost lol a true petrol head loves the sound even if it only results in a little more power gain
so you basically have no resonator performance muffler and the downpipe?
Yeah. AWE muffler, AWE non resonated midpipe, VRSF high flow catted DP
@@NWAuto alright thanks so much
Do you still have your resonator and muffler on your car in this video
No resonators. AWE muffler
Can this fit on bmw 340i?
VRSF does make downpipes for the 340i too.
Would this be to loud paired with a muffler delete
It would be pretty loud without a muffler. Maybe just get a sporty muffler
Did you have any issues running this with no tune?
The check engine will come on eventually. But otherwise it runs fine
Is this with the awe performance midpipe?
Yeah. I disabled cold start and I’ve been driving it like that. It’s very loud until the car is warmed up.
@@NWAuto gotcha. I have the same awe exhaust but my midpipe is stock, will adding just the vrsf hfc make it much louder?
@@Saltyfire11 since you have the resonated midpipe, I don't think it will be that much louder. Your cold start will likely be slightly louder.
I notice the sound increase on mine when the engine is cold and when I'm accelerating hard or revving it. Not much of a sound difference when just cruising around after the car has warmed up.
@@NWAuto tempted to get the awe midpipe now haha, thanks!
@@Saltyfire11 I'm releasing an exhaust clip compilation tomorrow morning. Just two and a half minutes of my best sound clips. You will be even more tempted if you check that out.
Is the exhust exhust except the down pipe
In this video I have the VRSF high flow catted down pipe with the AWE Touring mid pipe and muffler.
Hello bro, how horse power and torque you have on bm3 st2 and this vrsf sportcat.?
HP should be around 400 and torque around 410. To the crank, not to the wheels.
@@NWAuto but on this high flow cat?
@@NWAuto on this high flow catt I possible take 400hp on bm3 st2 ?
@@user-op6we2ls2x If you have good fuel in your area then you should be able to. I never actually Dynod it though
Did the downpipe throw a CEL for you?
Not right away, but yeah it did until I tuned it out
@@NWAuto Interesting! i was looking at this downpipe too and read on forums that the catted version wouldn't throw a CEL. Got me excited since i don't want to tune mine (yet)..
@@DemonoIogic I think some people use 02 spacers or something like that. My advice is just buy the tune with it. Unless you have some warranty you're trying to protect
@@NWAuto Thanks for your response! Sadly tuning seems to be the best option then i guess. Since i don't like the idea of the car possibly running too rich or lean :/ Wasn't planning on tuning it this early on tho.
@@DemonoIogic You can continue running the stock map, but use the tune just to disable the CEL. Although I think running Bootmod3 stage 1 or 2 + the Bootmo3 trans flash makes the car drive smoother and better overall
You need to get a civic you’re not BMW man 😂😂😂😂you scared 😂
does it fits to 328i?
Mine is for the 335i. But VRSF does make downpipes for the 328i also.