I'm the knife guy who gets the very outdated Hans Blix reference that also drinks too much on the weekend and impulse buys a knife that I definitely don't need and probably can't afford.... i am *the* quintessential knife guy.
But he wasn't wrong! Tell a Patriot the knife is USA made and they will commence an investigation - nothing short of a UN inspection report will satisfy them.
This was gold, and anxiety-producing as I seem to fit in at least 8 out 10 categories. I'd add two more: "traditionals" guys, who seemingly collect old Boy Scouts knives and consider every other type of knife guy illegitimate, and Japanese kitchen knife guys, who have more words for knife than an Eskimo has for snow. "I recently picked up this Gyoto Shanzo San Mai from the Hirokiro District, made by a retired Ninja whose family has been hand forging blades for 1,037 generations...."
I think you missed a category: The guy who spends a lifetime looking for the perfect knife, never quite finds it and as a result ends up with a huge collection.
A possible subtype: the BigBrownBear wannabe - these are the folk who try to see how fast they can regrind a knife without ruining the temper, and/or if they can get an edge that will whittle freestanding hummingbird pubes...
Missed the multi tool people that wish they could get fancy steels into their leatherman/victorinox and just watch knife videos to understand the inadequacies of their 420HC
Until our needs are met we'll be carrying a multitool plus a separate knife... Although I think leatherman put a 154CM blade in was it a version of the skeletool?
Ayyyyyyy cheers for mentioning my group! All the other pod peeps and I will put your video on during our next breeding game. Well wishes from the warren uuhhhhhnnnnnn
I think a special nod needs to be made for the GEC collector and the Uncle Randy collector. The GEC collector is a knife collector that, despite the name doesn't just collect GEC's, but they collect incredibly hard to find knives that are usually made in batches, and spend hours of their lives reading forums about when new exclusives or patterns will drop so they can scoop them up in approximately .46 seconds before they are sold out. I am not at all using this as a platform to share my frustration as a GEC fan trying to buy their knives.... The Uncle Randy is a lover of traditional knives, who goes on and on about how the modern knife community is far too obsessed with materials, and "all you need is a handy X knife in your hand to get the job done."
@@aldee666 oh I should have explained my bad! GEC means Great Eastern Cutlery. They are a knife maker here in the US! They make mostly traditional slip joint knives with the occasional locking knife too but all in traditional patterns. The problem is they only make certain patterns in certain materials in specific batches. This makes them extremely collectible because if one month they make a Barlow in stag antler they might not make that combination again for years and years. So people buy up batches in minutes, and some jerks will flip them on eBay for double or triple their original price. I'm a big GEC fan for the record, it's just frustrating trying to buy their knives lol.
k .. so I lost my SHIT at 4:32 over that Hans Blix bit. Gold star to C for keeping a sharp wit and remembering the old head of IAEA and UNMOVIC. Great F-ing joke there!
Bargain hunter here. I've spent on Ganzos in 10 years what some spend on one knife, so maybe I'm not the most valuable consumer, but I'd like to think there are a lot of us that add up. The inexpensive knife market has improved so much in quality since I got into knives like 15 years ago, buying cheap knives has only gotten more attractive the longer I've been in this hobby. It went from being a necessary alternative to satisfy myself while having little money, to thinking it is the better value purchase even if I can afford more expensive knives I just don't want to.
I see myself in a lot of these. I’m no tinkerer because I’m not dipping my toes into aftermarket’s for pocket knives, but I want to make my own thing because no one has quite made a knife that satisfies me. I’m a lot like a backyard scientist because I know a lot about steels and angles and polished and how that effects edges, I’m a lot like the custom guys because I have several entirely custom knives from others that I’ve designed (still didn’t come out entirely right but they’re fantastic blades), and I’m like the warrior because I do self defense and bushcrafting with my knives
I am a trad-futurist. My grail is an opinel in powder steel with an ebony or other exotic wood handle. The jigged bone Tre Kronor lock back… jigs my bone. Spyderco apparently had my number when they released the Spyopera in M390.
My favorite thing about the case guys is they act like their knives are gonna be worth a fortune one but there's millions of case knives. Every pawn shop is full of old nice ones that never sell. 🤣🤣
As a Pennsylvanian I love Case, Zippo and GEC. But I don’t fool myself that the ones I have at least aren’t worth much cause I use all of the Case I have. The collector market is one thing but to bank on it is another thing. Feels like silver or gold collecting, how many people do it but never sell it?
I don't collect anything with the intent of selling it or it growing in value. The futility of selling off these knives for profit will be my childrens burden, bwa-haha
Thank you, C&A, for giving me the idea about live wasp mailing. Unfortunately I'm too lazy to gather live wasps. Can you, or one of your viewers who reads the comments, provide an Amazon link to a box of live wasps for sale?
@@starkparker16 his videos are great aren't they? True about the wasps, but maybe if you showed them photos of stink bugs it might work them into a rage? 😆
I think you made one mistake with this mate. Spyderco don't just make knives for the backyard scientists. They now predominantly make sprint runs for the ebay scalpers and their bots.
Hah!!! Those people we don't speak of. Always nice to see something other than a knife review. Have a little of all of them, so I suppose All Rounder..Thanks again for the content.
I'm sort of glad that apparently it's common enough that it gets it's own category, but also a little weirded out how mostly accurate you've described me as a Compulsive Collector. I have over 200 knives because I can't bring myself to let any go, as well as having some anxiety over the actual process of trying to sell any of them. Most of it is Boker/Kizer/Cold Steel kind of stuff; not super premium, but not totally cheap either. Still haven't spent more than $200 on any one knife even though I've spent several thousand in total, I don't see the point in buying one high end knife when I could get 5 good ones instead.
If you actually feel like you have a problem with buying knives, saving for a while and getting a 400 dollar knife will really make you lust after sub 200 dollar knives way less.
I own around 215 knives and multitools (fixed and folding) and just hit over $10,000 in knives (I finally listed all my knives in an Excel spreadsheet). I am attempting to go cold turkey and not buy any more knives ....
@@leksasdf I wish this was true. Saved for some $200-400 knives. Beautiful and cool and all but eh. Was gifted a $2k knife by someone special. It’s BEAUTIFUL. But that son of a bitch is a work of art. I could never imagine using it. And the $200-400 knives? Same deal. I can’t justify actually using them and damaging them because what separates a $400 knife from a $150 knife are the fine details. And if it gets all beat up then those fine details can no longer be properly appreciated
Steel snob could probably fit into one of those categories like backyard scientist but to the extreme. If it’s not x7y84 variant B particle steel heat treated in the fires of Mordor on a Tuesday for exactly 1.3 hrs then it’s crap on a cracker
I am a compulsive collector that does have 99.72% of every knife I ever bought since 1985. Now that my sickness has a name, maybe I can get some help ...adding more knives to my 600 plus piece collection 😍 Great vid as usual Pete. Love the humor you inject
@@MichaelB2L when you add 3to 8 a month it ads up I was down over the holidays but I think I got 7 fixed and 3 or 4 folders. And it's the first week of Jan:(
@@MichaelB2L do you even knife bro?!?!?!? gotta keep knifing ,,,,, the quickest way to success is eliminate all china from your knife thoughts that way lies long term disappointment, next is any life or spending outside of knives, i have trouble with this one but girlfriends come and go and your friends arnt really your friends there just trying to get at your knives, after that steal steal every knife left unattended borrow them then lose them before giving them back this is a pro tip immoral but good gains to be had here, then horde never trade never sell only take this one gets easier, soon in 4 or 5 years everyone you know will call you that knife psycho guy, with distain(this means your winning),, pro tip 2 never NEVER use you knives get creative with your environment find relatively sharp things the mind set is use any thing but the factory edge (if you even carry them around (you fucking loser ) break things that make jagged edges nails teeth (re above steal other ppls) just don't use the knife i have like 3 users out of 600 and i regret each one, then lastly don't stop anyone who tells you you need a house you need a shower you need anything thing but knives is lying to you just keep going , ill see you on the other side signed Edge lord.... ahem..... factory edge lord
I'm a noob and will fit into one of these groups for sure one day. At the moment I know nothing and just doing lots of research to find the one and only best knive to rule them all.
There's a group you didn't mention. Those of us who buy a whole bunch of knives, but end up with maybe 10 practical pocket knives total because practicality is king, but having choices each day is nice as well.
You forgot the Pure Flippers who are logged in on three devices with six accounts to snag as many of the current Spyderco FOMO, dealer exclusive, limited edition, sprint run models with super-duper steel and a new color G10 scale! They are also prone to posting factory photos of said models on eBay for double the price ahead of the actual drop or receipt of the knives.
One thing you didn't mention about tinkerers is the pleasure of "fixing" a knife when you get it. I like to get a slightly imperfect knife that I can optimize. Maybe some corners need to be rounded, maybe further polish the satin finish, maybe break in the lock mechanism. Good quality budget production knives scratch that itch for me! Also, buying blades without handles.
I am an ex-collector that now self-titles as simply 'jaded'. The wave of automated soulless manufacturing 'high end production' like grimsmo, holt, hog house etc where 'makers' as just 'assemblers' combined with limited by design releases from Spyderco and CKF and the insane wave of a brand new chinese knife variant every 4.44 days has just burned me out. I have gone from 200ish knives to just shy of 20 in the last 6 months. Its been emotional 😅
Once you start applying any real degree of logic to this hobby, you're bound to end up here. Also, once you've handled and used all the models that get plastered on social media as the "highest quality production knife," you get a ton of amusement from laughing at that entire schtick. It's almost a requirement that the people who talk about the "amazing tolerances" have never actually handled a CRK, and probably can't even define tolerances in the context of machining. Until that and the "I sent a picture to Bestech, so now I'm pretty much Walter Wells" people go away, I'm right there with you in the jaded category.
Definitely have landed in this category now with so many companies just pumping out designs that all look the same and these new "makers" just making slight to no changes to designs it just burns you out especially since spyderco seemed to stop trying and went the route of "eh just slap a weird steel on it make a limited amount and let the scalpers with bots get them!" approach.
At least for me making hand made knives in mostly the culinary spectrum there's probably 3 or so types of people who buy my knives 1: Serious Home Hackers, these ladies and gents are pretty keen on getting a very good knife or two for their kitchen that will work really well or just fit in with the overall aesthetic of what their kitchen needs to feel complete. Its sort of a run on effect of celebrity chefs on telly in so much that they're not interested in the big box store 420 SS beater or cheap pots and pans, they go in for really nice gear that will last a lifetime. To also be fair, they will work their stuff a bit harder than the average person in the kitchen and will attend cooking classes. 2.Professional knife user, they still exist! Butchers, chefs, process workers and the like are out there doing their day in, day out trade for hours at a time either breaking down a beef carcass or filleting a fish and this is a really hard job. So if their off the shelf knife has a handle that's a bit long, short, wide, thick or just generally pisses them off they'll want something that suits them. It doesn't have to be fancy, but its got to work hard and stand up to a lot of use for 8-10hr days. This is sort of also where I can up-sell them on a really quality knife steel that they won't have to sharpen very often or get a really good fit in the hand for that particular user. I would also lump a bit of the Home Hackers into this category as well for butchers knives, out here in the rural backwaters of Australia, still plenty of people who will kill and break up their own livestock or something they've hunted and not interested in the cheap, lightweight-tier stuff off the shelf which they would probably destroy trying to blast through a beef bone. 3: Gifts and keepsakes, sometimes people just want a little bit of Australia to take home with them or know someone who would like a particular handmade knife or appreciate it for what its worth. So if their friend is a keen hunter, fisherman or cook they tend to be something like a 21st birthday, retirement or I love you present and makes someone out there feel special. Personally, I'm the 'Knife Anachronism' If its old, historic and sometimes just plain crazy I like to make weird shit from the past like 14-15th century Germanic farmers knives, Italian Renaissance kitchen knives, Argentinian cowboy combat cutlery and various Anglo-Saxon-Celtic implements of murder. All that stuff I find really interesting, course I can't afford actual examples so I have to make my my own and the mileage there varies quite a lot in terms of the end result
I'm "backyard scientist" too, though not so far on the spectrum as to risk carpal tunnel syndrome for an internet audience. I have spreadsheets merging Dr. Larrin Thomas's Charpy and CATRA test ratings with Pete's rope cutting results, with notes on steel history. I like to see just how acute an edge my knives will take before becoming chippy, and have overstepped the line a few times. I'd have a much harder time justifying any knife purchase that isn't in a well heat treated LC200N, MagnaCut, K390, or S90V, so yes, I'm a Spyderco fanboy. Some crossover with tinkerer. Everything is cleaned and oiled, and I've polished blades, dyed scales and replaced clips to correct aesthetic deficiencies.
This was fun! And quite accurate. I definitely felt the sting of being identified and outed in 2 or three of the groups. All in good fun though. Loved the case guy illustrations. Hilarious. Glad to see your warped humour on display
The "perfectionist" always searching for that next best thing to upgrade to (despite the fact that what they already have is perfectly usable for the tasks they have). I fall into this where I am always looking for that incremental upgrade and often the thing I buy is not better than what I already carry. Haha.
I'm a carbon steel knife guy, green river, dexter, mora, opinel but I also like Victorinox and Fdick, just easier to sharpen and I'm lazy but I also like the durability and meditation keeping the blades oiled.
Dedicated bargain hunter here. I love good quality, but have never had the wallet fat enough to not have to worry about getting a good deal for what I can spend. I will admit that knives like the Ontario Rat 1 and the Ganzo Firebird FH41 speak to me because I can get a competent folding knife for $25 US. But I also have a soft spot for a quality $200 knife on sale for $99 and am over the moon when I hunt up such a bargain. My enemy is the rich fool who insists on buying $300 knives and calling them "budget" or "beater" to show off how much money they have. Hate (and a little jelly of) that guy, grrrr!!!
i am definitely a social flatlayer. knife always accompanied by a pocke slip for the knife, multiple fidget toys (one of which may also double as a knuck) and pouches/slips for the fidgets. glad to be represented in your review of different types of knife enthusiast!
There is the tinker sub sleeper group, they have always a knife with them, most unassuming. All are hair whittling sharp ready to lend them to ingenuous people.
The functionalist: Regards knives as tools, something you buy when you need to get something done Only buys 1 knife (in each functional category) Invents functional categories when needed to justify a knife purchase
Definitely a compulsive collector....😮💨😮💨 I just can't get rid of my knives, I love them all and cannot stop.... Please get me help And Happy New year to you and your loved ones mate! Cheers!
I like Case… but that was funny. I only have several though in my collection, and am not sure how many knives I have…. Lol. Use them as memory markers and buy them to mark occasions or just because…
Knife Patriots make me think of another good american, William S. Burroughs, who once wrote "...and as an old heroin dealer once told me, be careful whose money you pick up."
Budget knife guy here. My odd knife collection could fit in a shoe box, barely. Used to love browsing the flea market for useful knives that didn't resemble any models I currently had. I'm the sentimental type also. When I see a shiny new traditional folder I only need to remember the mini 3 blade Sabre handed down from my grandfather to stop the purchase. The two smallest blades were resharpened by him so many times they are practically awls. I guess the sentimentality is hereditary. I only bought a Cold Steel SRK to give temporary relief to my genuine WWII Ka-Bar that I found at age 8. For 50 years the Ka-Bar has been my boy scout knife, hunting and camping companion. I can almost sense it whimper like an old dog when I leave it at home for the SRK. Thanks for the update on the Caseprechauns and pointing out they are capable of a grand sense of humor.
I'm between an All Arounder and Compulsive Collector. I own over 200 knives now .... I have my first knife that my dad gave me when I was 5. I only started really collecting (to my detriment) during the pandemic. I also get very excited and semi feral when I hold one of my huge Cold Steel knives. I do own several Cases (6 or 7 of them.)
I'm something of a Scientist myself. Love getting to know composition, heat treatment, blade electron microscopy, stone microscopy. Science of Sharp and Knife Steel Nerds are such great resources. I'm also bargain hunter. Sometimes I get a stone I don't even need because it's such a good price.
The description of the Case Collectors group of people can also apply to "Steel Flame Collectors", hopefully they can find some help. I'm unapologetically a Patriot, determined to banish M3 Tactical and Hoback knives to the shadow realm.
I think there is a #11, the regretter which I am. It encompasses a little of all other 10 personalities except we have a large tendency to sell off our knives after fidgeting for a few weeks to a few months at best. Never even using them enough to sharpen. And looking for the next shiny thing and repeating the cycle of hopelessness and regret. 😅
I used to be a terrible hoarder. I have a box with about 200 "budget" to midrange knives that I've barely looked at since a couple of weeks after I bought them. I always justified the purchase as "some day I might need this specific knife in some obscure scenario". That was the fantasy. The reality is that in the end I've pretty much boiled down my rotation to three Spyderco knives that I actually carry and use every day. And I really, really need to get motivated enough to pack up and list a bunch of those neglected knives for sale. New Years resolution?
A couple of years back, I got a Spyderco Knife Roll and set that as the limit for my collection. As it gets harder to get rid of knives, I put more and more thought into the purchase and buy less knives.
@@etherealicer are you fucking kidding me, more than needed, are you insane? What happens when the first 33 break and you’re down to # 34, then we will see if you still have this poor attitude
@@TheBootyWrangler I have a cheat-code... fixed blades and Swiss Army Knives are not included in the 34😂 That said, I'm not a "one is none, two is one", but more a "take good care of your gear and it will be there for you forever" kinda guy.
Well, if i go by your categories i am an atypical compulsive collector. I know where all the knives i ever bought are and where those are that i got as a gift and i nver sold a knife. And i mainly use two or 3 of them. (a victorinox, a tiny Böker neckknife i have in my toolbox and a Leatherman Charge AL with the ratched extension) The atypical about my case (afraid to use that word under this video 😂) is that i own fewer than 30 knives while i started in 1986 with my first knife.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 So THIS was the video that led to the funny apology video. 🤣 Good stuff. I have yet to buy a case knife. I'm STILL looking at the White Handled Bowie by Case on my Amazon wish list. This is after 5 years. STILL. So I guess it's safe to say, I don't fit into that last category, so I guess I'll be the barrel roller, or cement mixer.
Hilarious! I’m definitely part all arounder and part lazy backyard scientist. A few additional points for the warrior: tragically overweight yet was soooo close to joining some special forces group, has a “come and take it” sticker on his truck, thinks Greg Medford is the ultimate badass, calls people who don’t agree with him cucks, is unable to do a single push-up
I’m a compulsive collector and an all rounder as well, I don’t buy cheap knives though, plus a use your shit type as well. Thanks Pete for your thoughts. Well thought out.
Important update for the last group I spoke about:
th-cam.com/video/ssIv_4bUNaM/w-d-xo.html
I'm the knife guy who gets the very outdated Hans Blix reference that also drinks too much on the weekend and impulse buys a knife that I definitely don't need and probably can't afford.... i am *the* quintessential knife guy.
But he wasn't wrong! Tell a Patriot the knife is USA made and they will commence an investigation - nothing short of a UN inspection report will satisfy them.
Omg me too. I will never forget that name and how all the leaders of the free world completely ignored him and invaded anyway.
I'm the drunk impulse buyer as well
Don't start perusing antique sword websites...
You know I thought... "Hans Blix? Oh, you mean HAAANS BRIIIIX!"
This was gold, and anxiety-producing as I seem to fit in at least 8 out 10 categories. I'd add two more: "traditionals" guys, who seemingly collect old Boy Scouts knives and consider every other type of knife guy illegitimate, and Japanese kitchen knife guys, who have more words for knife than an Eskimo has for snow. "I recently picked up this Gyoto Shanzo San Mai from the Hirokiro District, made by a retired Ninja whose family has been hand forging blades for 1,037 generations...."
🤣🤣absolutely right about the Japanese kitchen knife guy.
🤣🤣🤣
Retired Ninja 🤣
Traditional = Uncle Randy!!!
Japanese kitchen knife guy here!
Utility guy: each knife has to have a purpose to justify the purchase
I started off trying to be that guy 😂
This was f*ing GOLD!!!!! But you forgot the “Use Your Shit” crowd - we are hard core, annoying, and everywhere!😂❤
This!👆
According to them, if you are not batoning through logs you are not using your knives.
@@oweng.3102 Owen it was nice seeing your mom last night. Took her to dinner. What ever that means💀
I've said it before, but ya never see the 'use your shit folk use the hashtag with their handkerchiefs. Probably for the best.
If you cain't easily resharpen it on a river stone, there ain't no reason to own it!
I think you missed a category: The guy who spends a lifetime looking for the perfect knife, never quite finds it and as a result ends up with a huge collection.
you missed two important ones: Bushcraft guys and makers
A possible subtype: the BigBrownBear wannabe - these are the folk who try to see how fast they can regrind a knife without ruining the temper, and/or if they can get an edge that will whittle freestanding hummingbird pubes...
The:
Bushcrafter (gotta kill all the wood)
MultiTooler (tool that happens to also have a blade)
BoxCutter (disposable blades)
Missed the multi tool people that wish they could get fancy steels into their leatherman/victorinox and just watch knife videos to understand the inadequacies of their 420HC
*enter uncle randy*
Until our needs are met we'll be carrying a multitool plus a separate knife... Although I think leatherman put a 154CM blade in was it a version of the skeletool?
The "Case Monster" part was gold lol.
Ayyyyyyy cheers for mentioning my group! All the other pod peeps and I will put your video on during our next breeding game. Well wishes from the warren uuhhhhhnnnnnn
ABSOLUTE GOLDEN Pete Video. 🏆🏆
There’s plenty of room for everyone in this hobby. Thanks for continuing to spread positivity, Pete
Except Case knife collectors....
I think a special nod needs to be made for the GEC collector and the Uncle Randy collector. The GEC collector is a knife collector that, despite the name doesn't just collect GEC's, but they collect incredibly hard to find knives that are usually made in batches, and spend hours of their lives reading forums about when new exclusives or patterns will drop so they can scoop them up in approximately .46 seconds before they are sold out. I am not at all using this as a platform to share my frustration as a GEC fan trying to buy their knives....
The Uncle Randy is a lover of traditional knives, who goes on and on about how the modern knife community is far too obsessed with materials, and "all you need is a handy X knife in your hand to get the job done."
@@aldee666 oh I should have explained my bad! GEC means Great Eastern Cutlery. They are a knife maker here in the US! They make mostly traditional slip joint knives with the occasional locking knife too but all in traditional patterns. The problem is they only make certain patterns in certain materials in specific batches. This makes them extremely collectible because if one month they make a Barlow in stag antler they might not make that combination again for years and years. So people buy up batches in minutes, and some jerks will flip them on eBay for double or triple their original price. I'm a big GEC fan for the record, it's just frustrating trying to buy their knives lol.
@@aldee666 its better for you not to know trust me.
@@aldee666 no problem. Its too late for me but you can still save yourself and your wallet.
Uncle Randy has a buck in his pocket...
k .. so I lost my SHIT at 4:32 over that Hans Blix bit. Gold star to C for keeping a sharp wit and remembering the old head of IAEA and UNMOVIC. Great F-ing joke there!
The Nordic fixed blade hikers, fishermen, and tongue sharpeners!
After this video, i started looking into CASE knives, and now i want one. Thanks Pete!
Bargain hunter here. I've spent on Ganzos in 10 years what some spend on one knife, so maybe I'm not the most valuable consumer, but I'd like to think there are a lot of us that add up. The inexpensive knife market has improved so much in quality since I got into knives like 15 years ago, buying cheap knives has only gotten more attractive the longer I've been in this hobby. It went from being a necessary alternative to satisfy myself while having little money, to thinking it is the better value purchase even if I can afford more expensive knives I just don't want to.
I see myself in a lot of these. I’m no tinkerer because I’m not dipping my toes into aftermarket’s for pocket knives, but I want to make my own thing because no one has quite made a knife that satisfies me. I’m a lot like a backyard scientist because I know a lot about steels and angles and polished and how that effects edges, I’m a lot like the custom guys because I have several entirely custom knives from others that I’ve designed (still didn’t come out entirely right but they’re fantastic blades), and I’m like the warrior because I do self defense and bushcrafting with my knives
I’m digging these daily uploads, Pete. Welcome back, sir. Hope you had a great holiday season.
The banker: keeps all his knives locked up in the vault so they don't get damaged.
I am a trad-futurist. My grail is an opinel in powder steel with an ebony or other exotic wood handle. The jigged bone Tre Kronor lock back… jigs my bone.
Spyderco apparently had my number when they released the Spyopera in M390.
Good stuff Pete! Never trusted Case knife guys. Now I know why 😱
I was unaware of these "exclusive" Case-knifers... in this documentary, he explains that they do live in their own warrens.
The juxtaposition of the very serious and respectful verbal descriptions with the hilarious, insulting bullet points was noticed and appreciated.
He was insulting alright..
Compulsive Art Warrior checking in!
You’re correct on the Case crowd lolol
My favorite thing about the case guys is they act like their knives are gonna be worth a fortune one but there's millions of case knives. Every pawn shop is full of old nice ones that never sell. 🤣🤣
As a Pennsylvanian I love Case, Zippo and GEC. But I don’t fool myself that the ones I have at least aren’t worth much cause I use all of the Case I have.
The collector market is one thing but to bank on it is another thing. Feels like silver or gold collecting, how many people do it but never sell it?
I don't collect anything with the intent of selling it or it growing in value. The futility of selling off these knives for profit will be my childrens burden, bwa-haha
Funny thing my wife thought all slip joint pocket knives was called case knives. So I guess they have a significant impact on the knife world lmao 🤣
@@czed7515 Case wishes they were, I'm sure lol
Thank you, C&A, for giving me the idea about live wasp mailing. Unfortunately I'm too lazy to gather live wasps. Can you, or one of your viewers who reads the comments, provide an Amazon link to a box of live wasps for sale?
With the right credentials, you might be able to get wasps for free according to Tom Scott: th-cam.com/video/vIfC4Aj05Ps/w-d-xo.html
@@RobBernhard I don't think those wasps are are angry enough for my purposes but now I've watched a dozen videos of Tom Scott's so thanks for that.
@@starkparker16 his videos are great aren't they? True about the wasps, but maybe if you showed them photos of stink bugs it might work them into a rage? 😆
This was a lot of fun to watch.
I think you made one mistake with this mate. Spyderco don't just make knives for the backyard scientists. They now predominantly make sprint runs for the ebay scalpers and their bots.
Hah!!! Those people we don't speak of. Always nice to see something other than a knife review. Have a little of all of them, so I suppose All Rounder..Thanks again for the content.
The fucking case knives bit 🤣
Simply Gold!
What about "The Makers"? We make knives, but we also buy knives that we love from the aspect of artists appreciating art.
I'm sort of glad that apparently it's common enough that it gets it's own category, but also a little weirded out how mostly accurate you've described me as a Compulsive Collector. I have over 200 knives because I can't bring myself to let any go, as well as having some anxiety over the actual process of trying to sell any of them. Most of it is Boker/Kizer/Cold Steel kind of stuff; not super premium, but not totally cheap either. Still haven't spent more than $200 on any one knife even though I've spent several thousand in total, I don't see the point in buying one high end knife when I could get 5 good ones instead.
I think this is the best place to be. Maybe once in a while three or 400
If you actually feel like you have a problem with buying knives, saving for a while and getting a 400 dollar knife will really make you lust after sub 200 dollar knives way less.
I own around 215 knives and multitools (fixed and folding) and just hit over $10,000 in knives (I finally listed all my knives in an Excel spreadsheet). I am attempting to go cold turkey and not buy any more knives ....
@@leksasdf I wish this was true. Saved for some $200-400 knives. Beautiful and cool and all but eh. Was gifted a $2k knife by someone special. It’s BEAUTIFUL. But that son of a bitch is a work of art. I could never imagine using it. And the $200-400 knives? Same deal. I can’t justify actually using them and damaging them because what separates a $400 knife from a $150 knife are the fine details. And if it gets all beat up then those fine details can no longer be properly appreciated
@@happykt put me on your will sounds like a lot of fun to go through and randomly pull an edc for the day out
Awesome Stuff🤣!! “Knife Addict” here✊🏼
Steel snob could probably fit into one of those categories like backyard scientist but to the extreme. If it’s not x7y84 variant B particle steel heat treated in the fires of Mordor on a Tuesday for exactly 1.3 hrs then it’s crap on a cracker
I am a compulsive collector that does have 99.72% of every knife I ever bought since 1985.
Now that my sickness has a name, maybe I can get some help
...adding more knives to my 600 plus piece collection 😍
Great vid as usual Pete. Love the humor you inject
same boat fuck me!
Jeez dude 600+ damn!
@@MichaelB2L when you add 3to 8 a month it ads up I was down over the holidays but I think I got 7 fixed and 3 or 4 folders. And it's the first week of Jan:(
@@markw7303 Hahaa! F-ing hell!
@@MichaelB2L do you even knife bro?!?!?!? gotta keep knifing ,,,,, the quickest way to success is eliminate all china from your knife thoughts that way lies long term disappointment, next is any life or spending outside of knives, i have trouble with this one but girlfriends come and go and your friends arnt really your friends there just trying to get at your knives, after that steal steal every knife left unattended borrow them then lose them before giving them back this is a pro tip immoral but good gains to be had here, then horde never trade never sell only take this one gets easier, soon in 4 or 5 years everyone you know will call you that knife psycho guy, with distain(this means your winning),, pro tip 2 never NEVER use you knives get creative with your environment find relatively sharp things the mind set is use any thing but the factory edge (if you even carry them around (you fucking loser ) break things that make jagged edges nails teeth (re above steal other ppls) just don't use the knife i have like 3 users out of 600 and i regret each one, then lastly don't stop anyone who tells you you need a house you need a shower you need anything thing but knives is lying to you just keep going , ill see you on the other side signed Edge lord.... ahem..... factory edge lord
That video was too much fun, don't know what kind of knife person I'm but I do like fixed blades
I'm a noob and will fit into one of these groups for sure one day. At the moment I know nothing and just doing lots of research to find the one and only best knive to rule them all.
There's a group you didn't mention. Those of us who buy a whole bunch of knives, but end up with maybe 10 practical pocket knives total because practicality is king, but having choices each day is nice as well.
You forgot the Pure Flippers who are logged in on three devices with six accounts to snag as many of the current Spyderco FOMO, dealer exclusive, limited edition, sprint run models with super-duper steel and a new color G10 scale! They are also prone to posting factory photos of said models on eBay for double the price ahead of the actual drop or receipt of the knives.
One thing you didn't mention about tinkerers is the pleasure of "fixing" a knife when you get it. I like to get a slightly imperfect knife that I can optimize. Maybe some corners need to be rounded, maybe further polish the satin finish, maybe break in the lock mechanism. Good quality budget production knives scratch that itch for me!
Also, buying blades without handles.
The dark Crystal is such a great movie.
😂 this was hilarious. I thoroughly enjoyed this video and the ending was hysterical. The second ending even better! 😅
You forget Flippers, the bali group.
I am an ex-collector that now self-titles as simply 'jaded'. The wave of automated soulless manufacturing 'high end production' like grimsmo, holt, hog house etc where 'makers' as just 'assemblers' combined with limited by design releases from Spyderco and CKF and the insane wave of a brand new chinese knife variant every 4.44 days has just burned me out.
I have gone from 200ish knives to just shy of 20 in the last 6 months. Its been emotional 😅
Once you start applying any real degree of logic to this hobby, you're bound to end up here.
Also, once you've handled and used all the models that get plastered on social media as the "highest quality production knife," you get a ton of amusement from laughing at that entire schtick. It's almost a requirement that the people who talk about the "amazing tolerances" have never actually handled a CRK, and probably can't even define tolerances in the context of machining.
Until that and the "I sent a picture to Bestech, so now I'm pretty much Walter Wells" people go away, I'm right there with you in the jaded category.
Definitely have landed in this category now with so many companies just pumping out designs that all look the same and these new "makers" just making slight to no changes to designs it just burns you out especially since spyderco seemed to stop trying and went the route of "eh just slap a weird steel on it make a limited amount and let the scalpers with bots get them!" approach.
@@CNYKnifeNut gotta agree with you. Except I don't know who Walter Wells is.
As you went through your list I noticed bits of each in me, but then you got to the compulsive collector and it almost perfectly describes me lol!
Gotta thumbs up for the Case jokes.🙈🙉🙊
At least for me making hand made knives in mostly the culinary spectrum there's probably 3 or so types of people who buy my knives
1: Serious Home Hackers, these ladies and gents are pretty keen on getting a very good knife or two for their kitchen that will work really well or just fit in with the overall aesthetic of what their kitchen needs to feel complete. Its sort of a run on effect of celebrity chefs on telly in so much that they're not interested in the big box store 420 SS beater or cheap pots and pans, they go in for really nice gear that will last a lifetime. To also be fair, they will work their stuff a bit harder than the average person in the kitchen and will attend cooking classes.
2.Professional knife user, they still exist! Butchers, chefs, process workers and the like are out there doing their day in, day out trade for hours at a time either breaking down a beef carcass or filleting a fish and this is a really hard job. So if their off the shelf knife has a handle that's a bit long, short, wide, thick or just generally pisses them off they'll want something that suits them. It doesn't have to be fancy, but its got to work hard and stand up to a lot of use for 8-10hr days. This is sort of also where I can up-sell them on a really quality knife steel that they won't have to sharpen very often or get a really good fit in the hand for that particular user.
I would also lump a bit of the Home Hackers into this category as well for butchers knives, out here in the rural backwaters of Australia, still plenty of people who will kill and break up their own livestock or something they've hunted and not interested in the cheap, lightweight-tier stuff off the shelf which they would probably destroy trying to blast through a beef bone.
3: Gifts and keepsakes, sometimes people just want a little bit of Australia to take home with them or know someone who would like a particular handmade knife or appreciate it for what its worth. So if their friend is a keen hunter, fisherman or cook they tend to be something like a 21st birthday, retirement or I love you present and makes someone out there feel special.
Personally, I'm the 'Knife Anachronism'
If its old, historic and sometimes just plain crazy I like to make weird shit from the past like 14-15th century Germanic farmers knives, Italian Renaissance kitchen knives, Argentinian cowboy combat cutlery and various Anglo-Saxon-Celtic implements of murder. All that stuff I find really interesting, course I can't afford actual examples so I have to make my my own and the mileage there varies quite a lot in terms of the end result
And then there are the Advanced Knife Bros 😂
Very good… I see myself in several of these categories 😅
Had to google Case knives… you’re right 😉
I’m a tinkerer, custom guy, and compulsive collector.
I identify as knife-fluid
I'm "backyard scientist" too, though not so far on the spectrum as to risk carpal tunnel syndrome for an internet audience. I have spreadsheets merging Dr. Larrin Thomas's Charpy and CATRA test ratings with Pete's rope cutting results, with notes on steel history. I like to see just how acute an edge my knives will take before becoming chippy, and have overstepped the line a few times. I'd have a much harder time justifying any knife purchase that isn't in a well heat treated LC200N, MagnaCut, K390, or S90V, so yes, I'm a Spyderco fanboy.
Some crossover with tinkerer. Everything is cleaned and oiled, and I've polished blades, dyed scales and replaced clips to correct aesthetic deficiencies.
Pete created a whole category just for himself😁👍
This is great! I’d say you nailed the vast majority of knife people types.
Just one question sir ...
HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT OUR SECOND MOUTH. Love your work Pete.
Such a beautiful list. This is gold. Well done, Pete.
This was fun! And quite accurate. I definitely felt the sting of being identified and outed in 2 or three of the groups. All in good fun though. Loved the case guy illustrations. Hilarious. Glad to see your warped humour on display
The "perfectionist" always searching for that next best thing to upgrade to (despite the fact that what they already have is perfectly usable for the tasks they have). I fall into this where I am always looking for that incremental upgrade and often the thing I buy is not better than what I already carry. Haha.
I'm a carbon steel knife guy, green river, dexter, mora, opinel but I also like Victorinox and Fdick, just easier to sharpen and I'm lazy but I also like the durability and meditation keeping the blades oiled.
I've just started buying kit knives, like Helle and Brisa. Makes the joy of the purchase last longer.
i f-ing died at number 10!🤣
Lol. I’m a Ganzo guy. And I’ve long suspected that about Case guys.
I always wondered why the people around the Case booth at blade show gave me the heebie jeebies. Now I know.
The case knife bit was hilarious 🤣 well done Pete
came for the knife memes, stayed for the ff9 music
Dedicated bargain hunter here. I love good quality, but have never had the wallet fat enough to not have to worry about getting a good deal for what I can spend. I will admit that knives like the Ontario Rat 1 and the Ganzo Firebird FH41 speak to me because I can get a competent folding knife for $25 US. But I also have a soft spot for a quality $200 knife on sale for $99 and am over the moon when I hunt up such a bargain. My enemy is the rich fool who insists on buying $300 knives and calling them "budget" or "beater" to show off how much money they have. Hate (and a little jelly of) that guy, grrrr!!!
LOL great! I find myself in five of those categories: all-rounder, backyard scientist, tinkerer, bargain hunter and compulsive collector. :)
Some people have to use one everyday I’m those people cattlemen , cowboys , farmers , fireman , and so on
i am definitely a social flatlayer. knife always accompanied by a pocke slip for the knife, multiple fidget toys (one of which may also double as a knuck) and pouches/slips for the fidgets. glad to be represented in your review of different types of knife enthusiast!
This was funny & well thought out as usual. 👍
I'm an all rounder who wishes they had the backyard/money to be a backyard scientist lol
There is the tinker sub sleeper group, they have always a knife with them, most unassuming. All are hair whittling sharp ready to lend them to ingenuous people.
The functionalist:
Regards knives as tools, something you buy when you need to get something done
Only buys 1 knife (in each functional category)
Invents functional categories when needed to justify a knife purchase
Backyard scientist = Pete and Advanced knife bro
Definitely a compulsive collector....😮💨😮💨
I just can't get rid of my knives, I love them all and cannot stop.... Please get me help
And Happy New year to you and your loved ones mate! Cheers!
I just realized what that sound track was. Very good taste, brings back a lot of good memories 👍👍
What about the outdoor person; people that are using their knife for a specific task such as the bushcrafter, the hunter, the fisherman...
I like Case… but that was funny. I only have several though in my collection, and am not sure how many knives I have…. Lol. Use them as memory markers and buy them to mark occasions or just because…
There’s also the GEC pod people, and while you’re watching the Case people these ones will sneak up and get you.
I will have to study some of them
in the wild and make some diagrams
Knife Patriots make me think of another good american, William S. Burroughs, who once wrote "...and as an old heroin dealer once told me, be careful whose money you pick up."
Budget knife guy here. My odd knife collection could fit in a shoe box, barely. Used to love browsing the flea market for useful knives that didn't resemble any models I currently had. I'm the sentimental type also. When I see a shiny new traditional folder I only need to remember the mini 3 blade Sabre handed down from my grandfather to stop the purchase. The two smallest blades were resharpened by him so many times they are practically awls. I guess the sentimentality is hereditary. I only bought a Cold Steel SRK to give temporary relief to my genuine WWII Ka-Bar that I found at age 8. For 50 years the Ka-Bar has been my boy scout knife, hunting and camping companion. I can almost sense it whimper like an old dog when I leave it at home for the SRK. Thanks for the update on the Caseprechauns and pointing out they are capable of a grand sense of humor.
I'm between an All Arounder and Compulsive Collector. I own over 200 knives now .... I have my first knife that my dad gave me when I was 5. I only started really collecting (to my detriment) during the pandemic. I also get very excited and semi feral when I hold one of my huge Cold Steel knives. I do own several Cases (6 or 7 of them.)
I'm something of a Scientist myself. Love getting to know composition, heat treatment, blade electron microscopy, stone microscopy. Science of Sharp and Knife Steel Nerds are such great resources. I'm also bargain hunter. Sometimes I get a stone I don't even need because it's such a good price.
The description of the Case Collectors group of people can also apply to "Steel Flame Collectors", hopefully they can find some help. I'm unapologetically a Patriot, determined to banish M3 Tactical and Hoback knives to the shadow realm.
I guess I'm an all-rounder/tinkerer. I would have separated warrior into two groups. Tactical and outdoors.
I think there is a #11, the regretter which I am. It encompasses a little of all other 10 personalities except we have a large tendency to sell off our knives after fidgeting for a few weeks to a few months at best. Never even using them enough to sharpen. And looking for the next shiny thing and repeating the cycle of hopelessness and regret. 😅
I used to be a terrible hoarder. I have a box with about 200 "budget" to midrange knives that I've barely looked at since a couple of weeks after I bought them. I always justified the purchase as "some day I might need this specific knife in some obscure scenario". That was the fantasy. The reality is that in the end I've pretty much boiled down my rotation to three Spyderco knives that I actually carry and use every day.
And I really, really need to get motivated enough to pack up and list a bunch of those neglected knives for sale. New Years resolution?
A couple of years back, I got a Spyderco Knife Roll and set that as the limit for my collection. As it gets harder to get rid of knives, I put more and more thought into the purchase and buy less knives.
@@etherealicer sounds way too reasonable !
@@tombrown4683 Yes and no... 34 knives is kinda ludicrous. Not crazy but certainly more than needed.
@@etherealicer are you fucking kidding me, more than needed, are you insane? What happens when the first 33 break and you’re down to # 34, then we will see if you still have this poor attitude
@@TheBootyWrangler I have a cheat-code... fixed blades and Swiss Army Knives are not included in the 34😂
That said, I'm not a "one is none, two is one", but more a "take good care of your gear and it will be there for you forever" kinda guy.
New knives temporarily plug that sad hole in our soul, through which our real true happiness drips, drop by drop on the mortuary room floor
I'm the kind of knife guy that strips out T6 screws :(
Well thanks Pete, for making us all feel self conscious !
Oh. My. Fucking. God. This video!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 👏🏻👏🏻I feel like I’ve been every one of these at some point throughout the process. (Except the patriot one).
Case gal too? I can’t believe that.
Well, if i go by your categories i am an atypical compulsive collector. I know where all the knives i ever bought are and where those are that i got as a gift and i nver sold a knife.
And i mainly use two or 3 of them. (a victorinox, a tiny Böker neckknife i have in my toolbox and a Leatherman Charge AL with the ratched extension)
The atypical about my case (afraid to use that word under this video 😂) is that i own fewer than 30 knives while i started in 1986 with my first knife.
Hmm . . . Spyderco nailed me.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 So THIS was the video that led to the funny apology video. 🤣 Good stuff. I have yet to buy a case knife. I'm STILL looking at the White Handled Bowie by Case on my Amazon wish list. This is after 5 years. STILL. So I guess it's safe to say, I don't fit into that last category, so I guess I'll be the barrel roller, or cement mixer.
Hilarious! I’m definitely part all arounder and part lazy backyard scientist. A few additional points for the warrior: tragically overweight yet was soooo close to joining some special forces group, has a “come and take it” sticker on his truck, thinks Greg Medford is the ultimate badass, calls people who don’t agree with him cucks, is unable to do a single push-up
@jooky5 nailed it !!
I’m a compulsive collector and an all rounder as well, I don’t buy cheap knives though, plus a use your shit type as well. Thanks Pete for your thoughts. Well thought out.