Best & WORST Ultimates in Apex Season 19
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- Best & Worst Ultimates in Season 19 Apex Legends
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I think a decent buff for lifelines ult would be that if your teammates are dead you don’t have to craft banners just call your ult and it’ll have the banners in the package
My idea was that after you pick up the loot it becomes a crafter and a respawn point.
I think it would promote abondoning your teammates and its countering her own passive. A 100% chance to spawn a mobile respawn beacon if you got dead teammates would be better imo.
@@typhlo9797 Or make the care package itself double as a respawn becon.
I like this. With the intro of Conduit to the game, Lifeline just isn't the "combat medic" she used to be. Every one of her abilities can be seen in someone else's kit, but better.
Now that banners are craftable and thirst-kills are common, I'm finding more teams are willing to abandon a single knocked teammate in hopes of respawning them over fighting for their banner. And hitting a replicator AND a respawn beacon is a little too punishing, sometimes not possible. Giving Lifeline a better chance at bringing your teammates back really speaks to her kit, and makes her a unique and desirable legend again.
Wattson in D tier is a hot take in my opinion however this is your opinion. Majority of these ults can be countered with a pylon and not to mention the ult accelerators instantly charge it
thats what im saying lol
Wattson ult D tier is a pretty bad take imo but it's your tier list. Conduit tactical isn't the same, it's temp shields and only up to blue shields for 2 people and it has lots of periods where it's in the hold mode and can't recharge. The amount of shields you can recover in with conduit's tactical in one cooldown vs 3 ppl near wattson ult isn't even in the same ballpark and they have different use cases anyway.
Agree’d. It’s
Always has been good.
Fuses Ult is also D-Tier. It’s not good at all and has been bad since Season 8.
@@bartsimpson8002nah fuse fire ring is underated . It can be used for defense and scanning not only offense . I’ve got out of so many bad situations with his ult. I have 4K kills with him and try playing him as much as possible trust me
Fr I also don't get the point of because apex is a battle Royale that means you're always on the move. I would say it's a healthy mix of finding and staying in position mixed with movement, especially in end game scenarios.
Any good wattson players knows how to turn a semi-open space into an impenetrable fortress
i agree especially cause it eats conduits ULT
@@SuckMyRidges yeah but it’s still D-Tier. You can do the same with Knuckle Clusters and Thermites
Wattson’s ult in endgame is unmatched, smaller area to fight and people are gonna be chucking grenades. I always like having a Wattson in endgame
yeah, even more considering if a bangalore or gibraltar is using ults at the endgame, or just to even put more fences at some small or building places faster, its just better than D tier
Every ash main agrees she needs a buff in every way. Her passive is the best part of her kit.
She desperately needs a buff
Every non-Ash main agrees
Yes. I am suffering
Our only chance is to not play ash and let her pick rate plummet.
I actually think her passive needs work, too. When you're experienced enough, you don't need it & ths data knife part is just a gimmick, really. First, I think the passive should let you ping surviving attackers by pinging deathboxes on your map and uses up the scan charge. Having to run a POI just to do this isn't worth it, but if you want to and you use your data knife, you should briefly get a map room type scan on that squad. Makes the fact that the game notices them make sense, never work against and give ash an ability that might make you pick her over a recon legend for rank or competitive.
Crypto Ultimate shouldn’t even stun anyone at all imo. It’s an EMP they should focus it towards disabling traps & legend abilities instead
While logical the change still needs to make him competitive, ironically two of the weakest champs have really good synergy (ash,crypto) if these got slight buffs I think it could really become something
It definitely shouldn’t stun him either.
If it doesn't stun in the future then I would like a buff to the drones health to 75 hp so its alil harder to break at range or increase EMP dmg to 60 so its not too strong for blue shields and below but feels stronger against purple and up.
If it doesn't stun in the future then I would like a buff to the drones health to 75 hp so its alil harder to break at range or increase EMP dmg to 60 so its not too strong for blue shields and below but feels stronger against purple and up.
is the armor they wear not electronic?
Honestly putting wattson gen in d tier but fuse and lifeline ults in c tier is genuinely an insane take. wattson gen is genuinely one of the best abilities for ranked it allows you to hold a building or high ground significantly easier, especially if the wattson has braincells and hides the gen.
Rampart got the best ult to me. Nothin puts a smile on my face more than mowing someone down with Sheila. All legends respect Sheila too. You gotta rethink your ego chal when you hear that old girl spin up.
With the new legend being able to shoot a beam and heal teammates shields I think it would be a great rework for lifeline to do the same with her drone
Their abilities are different because Conduits recharges only your shield and Lifline’s heals only your hp. To give that ability to the drone would mean it’s the same tactical essentially and not to mention healing both shield and hp with the drone would be super busted. Btw, you just described exactly what lifeline already does. She’s the only legend in the game that can heal/revive you whilst being able to shoot the enemy team. Every other legend is immobile (except Newcastle) and can’t shoot their guns when reviving downed teammates.
Mango really put Bloodhound's Ult in B-Tier but the only criticism he had was that you can't scan as much during it. it's still a very strong Ult and if anything should be A tier. The white ravens make it so that you can Ult more in games which is so much more better plus the already established pros of it too
Edit: you called Wraith's portal a "skill gap ability: the better you get with it, the more outplayability you can find attached to it" bro you do realize that there are a lot of abilities that fit that description?
maybe a better take on lifelines ult would be a complete health reset. she could have a radius that acts as a burst heal to her teammates (100 health). that would make her strong and would fit in the rest of her kit
Yeah she needs an ult change. It’s weird how her ult is just a much worse version of lobas
Crypto main here--100% right about his ult. Continuing to hope for. EMP immunity. Makes sense since caustic and and catalyst both have immunity
I love the videos. I've been down a rabbit hole the past week. Trying to get back into apex more and more. New ranked isn't for the casual like me. But I can't get over always seeing 240fps. That's all I care about right now
Mangos:wattson gen D tier not good cuz situational reliance
Also Mangos:wraith port A tier cuz pretty good in specific situations 😆 these two are the biggest misses for me for sure. To each their own anyways it's not like for everyone out there this applies to them some people will be better with mirage ult than you are with horizon ult and can do more with it in a fight, it's all subjective about how well the individual is at using the legend of choice. Is there a point of overlap where even the best player in the world on watt compared to the best in the world on cat can maximize the ult making it objectively better? Sure but probably for only the top 0.001% of players for most people it's gonna be about how good you are with the legend your using's abilities. Have fun out there legends and take everything with a grain of salt.
I think what's more silly about Revenants ultimate is that it can be paired with Conduits shields. Its absurd and im curious and terrified about how many more conduit combos can be figured out.
Maggie in C tier just shows how people still underestimate her ball. I get 1-2 kills on average a game with her ult
Her ultimate is the worst for me.
Niche moments 😂 man every end game with wattson should have you holding down the last two to three rings.
I’m really glad all your videos have had ash at the bottom as an ash main it’s nice to know other ppl see how bad she is and all she’s gotten is an arc snare buff which is pretty ass if you ask me she needs a huge buff to her kit to be viable in the meta
you can also use lifelines ult as cover espically in open area end rings, it has saved me a game or two, though agreed asf that its mid
I dunno if this changes the calculations, but you have a few misconceptions about Newcastle’s Ultimate. When I play, I do sometimes use it to provide cover, typically in endgame when everyone is pushed into the open, but more often it can and should be used in a similar way to a Loba Bracelet or a Rev jump. It’s an ability that allows you to take height and shoot down on enemies or as a get out of jail free card so you can fall back and reset or try to draw your enemy into the open while you have cover. In my experience, downed teammates tend to be near enemies and leaping into an enemy squad tends to get me killed. It seems very counter intuitive, and it took me a while to get used to using it more selfishly, but the successes I have had by using Newcastle’s Ult to be aggressive or to save myself in a bad spot vastly outnumber the times I’ve successfully used his ult to save a downed ally.
The thing that’s good with Watson’s ultimate is if your cornered and your shield is cracked and you can get behind cover you can heal your shield fairly fast and still shoot so you don’t get pushed which in the right situations could be the difference between losing and winning
I really miss this game. FR. I had a (bad) friend that i grew up playing apex with. Things gone downhill from there and I miss the old times as well as this game.
He has ash and wattson lower than Lifeline lol
Ranking Wattson as a legend so low, then her ult so low is just crazy to me. Maybe it's just not his playstyle which is fair, but Wattson has one of the highest win rates for any legend. She's extremely good in ranked, and is used a decent amount in comp. He doesn't have to like her, but there is no denying that she's an A tier legend with a very good defensive ult.
Ash's ult does need some buffs, but I'm sure the inconsistency is what tanked the tier the most in his eyes.
Honestly I miss the RevTane EMP beta as it encouraged team play. But devs took it out because people complained. Around the same time, they said they wouldn't put solo mode because Apex is a team game... Contradiction!
Fast forward to today and most of the legend abilities are selfish movement stuff
The Rampart love finally 🤣😩 W video bro
I think if they made cryptos emp take half of the shield from each person it hits but it slowly creeps back up to full would be a good fix
Dont think I agree with the Crypto comments. His friendly fire can benefit you greatly by further juicing up your Evo Shield. Ive gotten to red shields almost every game with him and thats usually by round 3 with 1 or 2 ults hitting. A lot of enemies also dont expect you to intentionally take the hit with them, leaving them off guard and stunned, with you right next to them. On a push they also focus fire on the drone as the EMP hits so they arent looking at anyone on your team. One other thing is I think Revs ULT got a nerf this season where his timer doesnt reset on knock but kill I think. Not sure if I read that one right though.
Ash ult is great imo, but it’s on a Garbo legend so yes it needs a range buff
Crypto should get buffed with his drone to be movable with him and the emp of his drone should not make his teammates unmovable for a while.
It would make sense if you also make tactical tier list too.
I would like to add that valk can use all escape towers to get that passive ability to ensure enemies positions
Ngl, been playing rev lately. Best I’ve been playing since season 17 lol. I was trying to beat ‘em, should have just joined em
The problem that people run into with the ash portal is the use it offensively to push it should be used to move teammates into a revivable area or get yourself the Frick out of danger there have been several times when I’ve been rounding a bind and gotten jumped in that portal saved my life
I think the problem with ash is she’s not quite an assault legend, she’s more a triple combo. Her tactical is similar to an assault, 20 damage and restricts the enemy. Her passive is basically recon, as it reveals teams that have killed each other and doesn’t really have a purpose in the midst of gun fights like the other assaults, say ballistics 3rd gun or Bangalores movement buff. And her ultimate is a 1 way version of wraith, which I honestly prefer as it means you can flee to somewhere and know that if you’re chased, then the enemy is stuck trying to fight you. I also use her as a way to remove downed teammates from a fight by tearing to a building or cover. I think she needs another passive and a shift to skirmisher or recon, or buff her tactical to two charges that puts her in a similar spot to fuse and Bangalore, and pre reborn revenant.
I know this sis off topic but I think that when lifeline reses someone they should spawn in at full hp, not shields just hp
I main fuze as a casual. In my experience your point is my BIGGEST grip. If someone touches the flames it should do full damage no matter what. With all the movement legends and such I think this change wouldn't shake up things too much but it would make fuses ult feel better. The flames need to not slow teammates too. It would be a good B or A Tier ult.
I think maggies ult should be higher. It can be buggy, but its an ability that can be used strategically, if used right. It moves in the direction that your looking/ running towards. So you can lightly control its path and have it turn directions. Wich is really good at bouncing it off walls into enemies. Or can be used as a tool for escape and defending your ground. Run with it towards a wall, while enemies are chasing and turn around when it hits the wall and aim at the enemie, itll hit them, or go towards them catching them off guard and creating and opening. Shes my main so it does take practice, but i think its one of the most useful ults.
As an ash main this a true take. I also feel they could buff her tatical as well maybe last about a second longer to really punish people coming out to an open area.
Ash is balanced, no buff is needed.
As always, you’re the man mangos 🤟🏼
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Im ngl im so bad with rev in ult 😂 everytime i use it i die but when i dont i run though people its so wild 😂
5:01 Hey, I Love That Fuse Video😂😅
We Need Another Crucial Tips Of Every Legends Video Again😢
I just did one a few weeks back!
@@MangosInTrees I Know, Just The Conduit Tips On The Lookout For But Takes Time😮👍🏼
Imo Cryptos drone shouldnt stun but should absolutely cause ability malfunction like Old Rev silence or Seer Tac.
I love the Rev love
Putting Wattson gen in D tier when it can heal shields,lowers her tacical cooldown, stop 90% of ults and and tacticals that deal damage. Only ult that can stop nade spam .Calls one ult nichie puts it in a low tier calls another ult niche puts it in a higher tier makes no sense .
It’s not that good lol. Wattson ult can easily get shot out and the amount of times it’s actually helpful is so niche.
@@MangosInTrees agree to disagree
Exactly! All good, tier lists are subjective. Ask 10 people get 10 different answers, the truth lays somewhere in the middle
hows wats ultimate D tier? like she can nulify bangalore and gib ultimates and granades, reg shields and you can automatically put your entire ult to 100% with one ultimate acc, lmao i think its a B at most but its very very useful if you use it well (you can also use it as cover while rev a teammate or just healing up, or even shooting angles
I think if maggies ult got changes she would be my favourite legend by far, the rest of her kit is so fun
Maggie ball is honestly amazing you just need to know how to use it. I have a single video uploaded on my channel (I plan to upload more smaller 25 sec - 1 min videos in the future aswell), of Maggie ball just absolutely smacking in a 1v2. Check it out and let me know if you still think it's a C tier ult 😉
I think the fix for Maggie's ball is to make it roll instead of bounce. With would become a little more predictable.
Maggie ball is honestly amazing you just need to know how to use it. I have a single video uploaded on my channel (I plan to upload more smaller 25 sec - 1 min videos in the future aswell), of Maggie ball just absolutely smacking in a 1v2. Check it out and let me know if you still think it's a C tier ult, in terms of consistency at long range though I do definitely agree with you. It blows up on nothing a lot lol 😂
Crypto is my boi, but it’s very hard not to make him OP in team plays. All he is lacking is enemy auto follow - just imagine you press a button and drone flies above the chosen enemy)
5:36 that music doesn't play when I try and listen to it is there a link?
I think Ventage ult is at least B-tier bc u used her ult laser as bad thing but there is so much outplay with that like space taking or allowing ur teammates to rotate bc when i see that laser i dont dare to peak
I feel they should just give Ash 1-2 more portals. Keep the short range, just up the amount and I think it would create a lot of unique encounters against her as well.
Dumb ash buff idea: what if she had a melee attack as a second part of her ult with 3x damage, and the old melee lunge x2.5, using her sword for the animation. I just think it would be really cool and would promote aggressive play.
I say Watson can carry her ability on her back but I drains a bit faster for shield restoration and it makes her hitbox slightly more slanted towards the ability
There is no way this guy put Crypto's ult in deadlast LMAO
I’m not a crypto main or a die hard crypto fan but putting it in D tier in my opinion is crazy
i think cryptos drone should ask more like seers old skill. have it stop revives and stop healing on top of what it does now
Personally I think silence would be better, Also it's an EMP it would make more sense considering most of the character's abilities are electronics. I mean it destroys traps but it does not prevent controller legends to re-place the traps that has been destroyed.
Love your videos but vantage ult is top tier the amount of people that like to ego challenge is crazy. I love getting a knock and tellin my whole team to push wether we get therein time to confirm my kill or in just enough time to catch them off guard. There’s just a lot of playability and replay ability with her kit and ultimate
As a rampant mainer, i think this is a fair tier list
On top of that ash's ult is too slow. After swinging the sword theres a 1 second delay before and after she phases, which can easily get you killed and when I saw Newcastle get a recent buff that lets him shoot right after leaping I was confused why ash didnt see the same thing. With these stupid delays, you alsk got so many queues that make the ult so predictable & easy to counter.
80 meters at least on the ult is a must & I would very appreciate it, if they removed the delays on port & let you turn camera while in the void. But if they want to keep the delays they have to at least make travel through port instantaneous.
I use lifelines for cover at end game
Crypto drone the worst ult coz it stuns friendly legends, but Bangalore's is a tier 🤔
They are afraid to buff Ashes portal because they only no how to buff range by doubling it (Wraith, Pathy). Fine tuning is too complicated. I think a 15 increase. Would make a significant enough difference without making it overpowered. Might stop random ashes from using it to catch up like an octane stim
Can u do a tactical ones pls
I was surprised they brought Conduit out and didnt give Wattson any buff at all.
If you had to rework every character, what would you do? - also, you can make you own legend, what’s their abilities?
Crypto ult desperately needs buffs or tweaks to it, he is my favorite legend and i love how good he is for recon, but his ultimate holds him back considerably.
bloodhounds ultimate def should be higher, esp while bangalore is still in the meta, and using the ravens you can basically have it available every gunfight while getting passive info
I mained him last season in ranked, to counter bangalore...... don't have the stats but I prob had a 0.9 k/d as normal bloodhound but a 4.8k/d with that beast mode, it's superb
Pathfinder's Ult being A Tier is a bit wild considering the Ults on lower teirs. It's literally just a zipline, in fights there are many Ults that are better.
Gibby is goood in the 3 and out game mode
Saying apex audio is inconsistent is putting it lightly 😂. How would you go about re tooling Watsons ult? Also im adamant that fuse needs a 4% explosion reduction for his team when using his knuckle cluster
Ash and fuse need a buff ...ash ability to portal back like wraiths or Extra two shares and fuse's motherlode if you get hit with the NO it should hit you like the knucklecluster or more explosive like a grenade blast
ML*
I would say wraiths portal is easily S tier. So versatile, so much team play, so much out-play potential. Great for rescues, pushes, rotates, etc
wrait portals is D
conduits ult is too strong. does more damage than caustic traps and hard to destroy.....
Maggie ball is honestly amazing you just need to know how to use it. I have a single video uploaded on my channel (I plan to upload more smaller 25 sec - 1 min videos in the future aswell), of Maggie ball just absolutely smacking in a 1v2. Im not amazing or anything but check it out and let me know if you still think it's a C tier ult 😉
Maybe for normal solo q but for rank this is not the tear list
I kinda disagree with the Wattson ult on D-tier. Wattson ult is mainly used for destroying projectiles rather than the shield regen and shield regen is good if you're holding down an area and just want to poke other teams so you have good shield-eco. In addition her ult is very good at denying other legends' abilities & ults, such as fuse ult and tac, bang ult (maybe tac, haven't tried), and a lot more. Yes, sometimes it needs to be used pre-emptively, however most of the time it has good uses, aka. it should be above D- or at least C- tier imo.
In addition Conduit tac. is used mostly for re-engaging fights, while Wattson ult is best to use while engaging, resetting and holding
imo wattson ult is rated completly wrong since the best use for it is in ranked holding a spot (best part of it is destroying all nades, many ults etc horizon)
Hey to anyone reading this, I'm a lifeline main and i wanted to add a couple things and why I think she deserves at least B rank!
Her ult is useful early game ult but does lose value mid to end game. However in the end game circle if there are multiple teams alive, her ult can be placed to potentially break LOS, so you could target a certain team without being punished by another squad. Also if you just finished fighting and a squad immediately pushes you do have that extra body shield just in case. This is all mainly ranked games as in pubs there aren't normally as many teams alive 80% of the time.
That's all I wanted to add, thank you for reading all this if you did! have a good one yall!
@@TommyVProjects you definitely have a lot of points there. I’m new to apex kinda and decided to give a few tips that I’ve learned. Many characters are better yes but lifelines care package could be a good use if cover if you don’t have certain characters on your team. Idk just a few point I decided to tell people, mostly situational and rare situations to happen but again I’m new and decided to give people tips as lifeline is a very low pick rate characters and I have experience with her from previous accounts.
L take on Ash's Ult, especially when you place Octane's Pad above hers... "Instant, safe TP to any location < Predictable, visible and slow float through the air of a jump pad" cool cool
Nah Ash needs love fr, they buffed wraiths portal distance seasons ago they should’ve done the same for Ash overall Ash is a pretty meh Legend
Anyone struggling with the trails to get into gold? After prelims I was put in silver one because I lost my last 3 games before I landed, that’s fine just aoex things. I win games either side of the the 6 tries at winning but during it’s like I go from silver lobbies to master lobbies. It doesn’t make sense, I have found a few cool pred streamers by getting killed by them which is a positive I guess.
I'm a solo and personally I'm not going to play ranked until they get rid of Trials or I find a competent team. It's fucking impossible for a solo queue and unfair if I'm being frank
The only thing i disagree with is that loba ult is in B tier. With not a lot of skill ceiling her ult can be A tier anyday. I have 3k plus kills on loba. Ive moved on to vantage now but even just throwing her ult in fights if you know how to works wonders. You gotta know how to.
Speaking of sound why is it still broken,? They can make skins every week why not fix the issue
Mirage super underrated 👌
Shilla is a weapon aswell.
It’s very clear mangos hates Wattson! Her gen D tier??? Bro I’ve had endgame rings where my gen saves mine and teams ass from grenades, Gibby, bang últs, and fuse knuckle cluster,
All the Ult that deals damage should be higher on tier list.
Yall should I get Maggie or loba
What should i do if my aim is not improving? I know ive asked like a million questions about aiming but nothings working bro. Controller is apparently so op that anyone can pick it up & be aim god instantly yet i have 10+ yrs on a controller & 90% of the fights i lose are because of bad aim
.Play Ltms (use a variety of guns to master your recoil)
.Analyze situations(have confidence when you push or are being pushed)
.Play to your strengths (Aggressive, Defensive, or opportunistic)
Use legends that benefit your playstyle(Try to master 3 legends to improve your game sense )
.Some games are bad do let it put you down(you can't win every fight . It's a BR everyone is trying to win)
since we are only talking about ults i will let the wattson slander run
Horizon's black hole in A tier??? 😂😂😂😂😂 Less than one mag and you're free
I am Crypto main since forever and... Yeah, they need to remove the stun on yourself and your teammates. Plus, you should NOT get hit by your own ultimate smh
I think this list is a bad take. Various lengends with good decent ultimates in D and C and then you have, what i this is the worst ult in game, mirages ultimate. It cluters alot of the enemy screen, right, but it alto cluters mine with the long blue line behind the decoys haha.
Putting Wattson's ultimate in D tier when it counters half of the ultimates you've put higher up on the tier list is a bad take, ngl.
I've already done this song and dance about how wattson is far from D tier. Her ult is one of the strongest in the game and is not only great for holding positions but for helping against 3rd parties with the sheild regen and faster tactical cooldown. You also act like you can only ult once a game. Wattsons ult is nothing shy of S tier, your tierlists however are F tier
God forbid you play crypto and your teammates immediately call you useless
this was a your opinion legend tier list like ik you arent perfect but ash has one of the best ults in the game she is bad because of her tac (it does nothing) and newcastle has one of the best ults in the game with high ground taking ability team regrouping and possible enemy stun. wattsons ult is good for late game high level play. putting ramparts shiela at Atier is not true its good but not better than the other mis placed legends. wattson should be B, newcastle A, Ash A, and Rampart low B to high C. Crypto is 100% a Tier as well it just has a major major skill gap to it. crypto has one of the hardest kits to learn but once learned it is one of the best ults.
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BIG disagree on the wattson ult, it is definitely one of the strongest ults in the game and the only way to completely shut down ordinance, fuse spam, black holes, air strikes, conduit ults, and more. It passively heals the entire team instead of just one person like the conduit tac and doesn't heal temporary shields either. With the 2x ult accels passive wattson can have 3 pylons ready to go (1 on cooldown, 2 ult accels) and place them down very liberally. Great for holding a house if you are getting pressured, great to deny nades if you have some high ground on a team. IMO it is the strongest ability if you are playing in a more methodical playstyle. Yeah if you are just running and gunning constantly its not gonna help but not everyone plays like that and that style isn't the only way to find success.
All good players play like that, no one is sitting in buildings for that long where a gen moves the mark. Good players will acknowledge a gen, shoot it out or just kill the team regardless. Wattson has one of the lowest pickrates in the game. If her gen is soooo good, why does no top ranked player use her like that? Because it's not as good as some of y'all think
@@MangosInTrees bro what?? Do u even apex?😅 Wattson is one of the most consistent picks in ALGS.
And of course pros play her like that all the time. And yeah u can shoot it out, but wattsons team can fire back u know. Also she can almost instantly deploy a new one due to her passiv.
U can shoot almost everything out, like horizons ult for instance, but u slapped that in S tier lmao
IMO ash portal should not allow enemy to enter so it could make it more unique
So what I’m hearing is the ultimates don’t feel “ultimate”