Excellent video. I only discovered you a short while ago but am so glad I did. Really useful tips, perfectly explained and aimed at the more advanced users. I’ve tried to do this and found a very clumsy way of doing it but this is elegant and, pretty easy once you grasp the overall concepts and has a variety of applications. Thanks.
Still trying to decide which daw to move over to from Reason. I love a lot about Logic, but stuff like this...not so much. Channel Link in Cubase 13 Pro is fantastic. I can quad track my guitars through 4 Neural DSP amps and then link them all so I only have to adjust one amp tone to adjust them all. Very much hoping Logic gets something like this one day. Apparently AI musicians were a higher priority for 11...said no-one ever haha. Still, appreciate the video man. Very thorough!!
I meaann, thats one way, but the most extra way.. you'd save a lot of time by just doing that on the drum bus and then duplicating the plugin and automation on the reverb bus. Right click and "create track" on the reverb bus in the mixer then you can just automate it like a normal track.
That’s definitely an easier way! But I thought it this was a good use case of the environment for people to see since it doesn’t get talked about a lot.
Hi, this technique unfortunately has one major flaw in that all of your connected channels Volume and Pan settings are controlled by the Kick channel. The Volume and Pan controls on a channel strip (Audio or Instrument) all have the same MIDI location or address (similar to you putting your EQ plugins on Slot 3). When you move the Volume slider on the 'Kick' channel it will send CC7 as a 'Fader' message to all the other connected channels, same with Pan CC10. Actually looking it this again you have a cascading effect going on so moving any of these channels Volume fader will have an effect on any channel to the right of it. Having used Logic since it was eMagic Logic I've spent A LOT of time in the Environment 😅. There are other better ways to do this in the Environment but they're not very pleasant 😀 All the best Tob
Thanks for bringing this to my attention Tob! For me, I guess I would just set the volume and pan first before setting this up and then possibly just bounce the effect and unlink. Im curious what your Environment based solution would be though!
@@sangstersounds Hi Chris, I made a video about it here. Thought it was easier than explaining in a comment. Turned out to be a lot harder! 🤣 th-cam.com/video/xo_0P5-w2i8/w-d-xo.html Sorry if I ramble on :) Hope you are well! All the best Tob
Great tip! I've disliked the environment for three decades - possibly because the manual said, '...this is the area of Logic that allows you to homogenously and heterogeneously control your midi set-up...' I thought, this is German over-engineering, what am I getting into? I've not switched DAWS though.
Haha wow! That is quite the description! It is definitely not the most intuitive thing in the world but it does have some helpful functions. Thanks for checking out the video!
I've loved the Environment for 3 decades and find it awesome for doing customized and non standard things that are just not possible in other DAWs. Some of Logic's built in MIDI plugins now provide features that could only be done in the the Environment previously but I do still venture there from time to time to do custom routing and MIDI trickery.
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exactly what I was looking for! thank you
Awesome! You are very welcome!
Excellent video.
I only discovered you a short while ago but am so glad I did. Really useful tips, perfectly explained and aimed at the more advanced users.
I’ve tried to do this and found a very clumsy way of doing it but this is elegant and, pretty easy once you grasp the overall concepts and has a variety of applications.
Thanks.
Thanks so much! Glad to help and glad to have you here.
another awesome video. I’ve been looking for this tutorial everywhere.
Glad to help!
Still trying to decide which daw to move over to from Reason. I love a lot about Logic, but stuff like this...not so much. Channel Link in Cubase 13 Pro is fantastic. I can quad track my guitars through 4 Neural DSP amps and then link them all so I only have to adjust one amp tone to adjust them all. Very much hoping Logic gets something like this one day. Apparently AI musicians were a higher priority for 11...said no-one ever haha. Still, appreciate the video man. Very thorough!!
Thanks! If you do end up going for Logic (which obviously I recommend!) check out kshmr chain for an easier alternative for this process!
The environment window is the upside-down, but scarier. That’s why it looks like that,.
Hahahaha very true
I meaann, thats one way, but the most extra way.. you'd save a lot of time by just doing that on the drum bus and then duplicating the plugin and automation on the reverb bus. Right click and "create track" on the reverb bus in the mixer then you can just automate it like a normal track.
That’s definitely an easier way! But I thought it this was a good use case of the environment for people to see since it doesn’t get talked about a lot.
Hi, this technique unfortunately has one major flaw in that all of your connected channels Volume and Pan settings are controlled by the Kick channel. The Volume and Pan controls on a channel strip (Audio or Instrument) all have the same MIDI location or address (similar to you putting your EQ plugins on Slot 3). When you move the Volume slider on the 'Kick' channel it will send CC7 as a 'Fader' message to all the other connected channels, same with Pan CC10. Actually looking it this again you have a cascading effect going on so moving any of these channels Volume fader will have an effect on any channel to the right of it. Having used Logic since it was eMagic Logic I've spent A LOT of time in the Environment 😅. There are other better ways to do this in the Environment but they're not very pleasant 😀 All the best Tob
Thanks for bringing this to my attention Tob! For me, I guess I would just set the volume and pan first before setting this up and then possibly just bounce the effect and unlink. Im curious what your Environment based solution would be though!
@@sangstersounds Hi Chris, I made a video about it here. Thought it was easier than explaining in a comment. Turned out to be a lot harder! 🤣 th-cam.com/video/xo_0P5-w2i8/w-d-xo.html Sorry if I ramble on :) Hope you are well! All the best Tob
Another method is to send the output of your drum reverb back to the drum bus, not just your main output.
Yup! But in this case I am using the room reverb for more tracks than just the drums and I don’t want the reverb on those other tracks filtered.
Great tip! I've disliked the environment for three decades - possibly because the manual said, '...this is the area of Logic that allows you to homogenously and heterogeneously control your midi set-up...' I thought, this is German over-engineering, what am I getting into? I've not switched DAWS though.
Haha wow! That is quite the description! It is definitely not the most intuitive thing in the world but it does have some helpful functions. Thanks for checking out the video!
I've loved the Environment for 3 decades and find it awesome for doing customized and non standard things that are just not possible in other DAWs. Some of Logic's built in MIDI plugins now provide features that could only be done in the the Environment previously but I do still venture there from time to time to do custom routing and MIDI trickery.
Or just use KSHMR Chain 👍🏾
Yep I use KSHMR Chain specifically for this and for a quick way to use plugins in parallel.
Thank you so much for this suggestion! I had never heard of this plugin and it is a game changer!!