Wow, shout out to that ABC investigator for pushing him and asking the hard questions! He did not care at all how uncomfortable the police chief might feel, he just wanted the truth! Good for him.
It's a freaking scandal !! They simply used her, with absolutely zero concern for her. You cannot ''punish'' a person for having a bit of weed by making them buy cocaine in large amounts. She was totally set up and it costed her life. So super sad.
They do this everyday w every bust. They're not usually so stupid to make you go ask for things. You're not normally getting, but they try to flip every drug user. The police are legally allowed to lie to you to use you and abuse you for their benefit. That's why people say don't talk to the police. Cause they're not there to help you. They can't make any recommendations to the judge. That's not how it works.
But from what we know Rachel was a pretty steady low time dealer who sold to her college buddies and apparently classmates I guess to, and that isn't cool, I know she had fun and was the dealer around town for the college crowd, but she didn't live a clean life so when you get pinched, with more than just a couple of dynamics, and we know that she had a pretty good amount when she was pulled over, she got herself into this fix , it's just too bad that the cops gave her too heavy of an assignment and probably just a few stock phrases to use
Thank you for covering this. Rachel was a dear friend of mine. I miss her loving, inclusive heart and her joyful laugh. I just want people to know that she was a regular college student. She liked music and dancing. We all miss her very much, and her murder forever altered the lives of her family and friends. Her story deserves to be told. Thank you.
Is there anyway we can help her loved ones get justice? Is there a petition I can sign or a number I can call, an email? Anything at all in the entire world that I can do to make these cops pay for what they did to her.
Im five seconds in and im already rolling my eyes "we dont threaten people" You dont have to literally threaten people, you're COPS, just by your very nature you are threatening
No literally!! I had police in my house all the time growing up bc of family problems. They NEVER threatened me. But to this day I can’t handle being near any police. Got pulled over once and had to take my emergency anxiety meds because my panic attack was so bad. They only pulled me over bc of my bfs window tint and I still PANICKED.
Perfect example of how drug crimes and drug addicts are treated way worse then rape and murder! She wasn’t a drug addict they smeared her as one. This is unforgivable and there the criminals! 😢 her family was robbed of there only child.
She was a drug dealer, so think of all the laws that were broken behind the scenes for her own dealers to eventually get their product to her so she could sell to her customers... she was no angel and deserved her sentence as she had more than a lousy dime bag, Rachel had a while operation going on. OK she wasn't selling meth and crack, just weed, but still. Nevertheless the cops didn't need to seems her into harm's way, to penetrate into known dangerous sellers.. they have their own undercover agents
The police used Rachel, listening to Rachel's parents speak about her is heartbreaking. The police should take one hundred percent responsibility. They messed up and need to take accountability.
It also shows to her character that even under police pressure she didn't give up her friends and rather risk her life than put people who didn't deserve it in prison.
I am shaking with rage and sadness. How fucking dare they.. and then to LITERALLY do a smear campaign against her while she’s dead.. I just want to scream.
My friend used to buy and sell weed to her. This was such a messed up thing. She was such a sweet person. Hurts my heart anytime I think about those times. We were all just college kids. Thanks for bringing more awareness
@@goodcitizen-ft9bghow did you get to that conclusion? It was probably another girl in college with them. As the comment says: WE were all just college kids.
Purple Hatter’s Ball was a festival here in Florida that benefitted the foundation in Rachel’s honor. That’s how I learned about her story. It’s especially sad to me that this happened due to a marijuana charge….meanwhile people are getting rich legally selling it today. It shouldn’t have been a crime in the first place…how many people have we lost to death or prison over marijuana that could have really contributed to our society? Over a plant? Insanity.
This case is astonishing. Nineteen ppl of authority involved and not one of them pulled the plug when things started deviating. Thank you for sharing Rachel’s story. I’ve never heard of it before, and it is infuriating.
Just finished this. Thanks Josh for the pre-warning of frustration 😂. She didn’t follow instructions they say. Meanwhile she followed more instructions than all of the police officers that day combined. Truly awful my heart goes out to the family.
My son was at a stop sign in the rural area we live in, he sat there deciding if he wanted to stop in the nearby small store or go on to one down the road. He chose the one just down from him and as soon as he parked he was blocked in by a jump out boy who thought he sat at the stop sign a bit too long. He was asked about that and my son told him what he was doing. He allowed them to search the car. His sister’s car. The jump out boy found a cigarette pack under the passenger seat that had a roach in it. He had just dropped off a friend a bit earlier. That friend had left this behind. The jump out boy had a solution to avoid a drug charge. He wanted my son to give up dealers or drug house locations. My son told him he had no clue about any of those things because he didn’t do drugs. He told him he didn’t know anyone that would have that info. He was told ”I’m sure you’ll come up with something”. I sent him to an attorney who the checked the car and with that and the information of that nights interaction he told him not to worry. Needless to say, this all went away as soon as the attorney contacted law enforcement. All this to say that law enforcement will twist and turn things to their advantage without any thought to you or your liberties. Always, always contact an attorney. Always.
Ugh I'm sorry you and your son dealt with this. I was blessed to only have good experiences with law enforcement where I grew up in NJ. But when I moved to NV I was in for a rough awakening. I have more than ten awful interactions but yours reminds of one specific time. My best friend and I were just chilling in a Wendy's parking lot in her car, listening to music and eating frosties together. A little ways down the street a fight broke out on a bus and the cops were called to it. We decided to head out so we wouldn't get in their way and were slowly backing out of our parking spot when a cop car totally bypassed the bus and pulled a crazy maneuver to block us in. He then pulled us out of the car at gunpoint and I was so close to the cop that I could see his finger was already on the trigger. Everyone watching was screaming to him that it wasn't us but he just stood there yelling at us, ready to shoot. And then he just ran away towards the person involved in the fight that now had gotten a huge start.
@@Mercado99 I live in NJ now and the cops seem pretty good here. Sorry about your experience in NV. Glad you’re okay. I never understood how cops can just pick two people out of a crowd of onlookers when a fight breaks out. They really need to assess the situation before they act.
Now that it’s legal they should 100% release and apologize to anyone they arrested for it! You can’t legalize weed without fixing the people you locked away for it
This is definitely one of the most tragic and frustrating cases I’ve ever heard of. I am in tears. In my opinion the police are just as responsible as the two felons.
I have never rage cried so hard before. Rage for how Rachel was treated and how preventable it was. I could feel the devastation from the parents. Thank you for covering this case and not letting it be swept under the rug.
This just disgusts me, them victim blaming her is horrible. I understand the parents sued the city, I'm so glad. All those involved should pay victim restitution and be fired.
This is a sad but very important case. I do enjoy the unexplained, paranormal, mystery episodes more so, but bringing these cases to light, a case that changed Florida law & legislature, should be way more well known. Great episode MH fam. ❤ from Florida
Just some general feedback. I might be in the minority but I thought I'd just mention it: I am not a super fan of the preview in the beginning of videos. Not because I don't want "spoilers" or anything, but I always try to keep an open mind and hear everything out. And some times the previews kind of set the tone of what you should think right away. I don't know. I guess most cases aren't covered in a neutral way or anything, cause it shouldn't be usually! But I still thought I'd take the time to say at least how one viewer feels about it. At this point I always try to skip the beginning, just to not see it. But I guess your analytics can tell if most people watch it or not.. I dont know. But thank you for all the hard work the team does! I watch every episode across the channels every time
Midwest Oklahoma down south…etc they need to stop! I think the reason why it’s not legal in these little country towns?? Not much else going on may as well make money off of arresting these poor kids smoking weed!!!
A civilian should have never been sent to conduct a such highly dangerous transaction! That's work for undercover officers. RIP Rachel, and shame on TPD!
born and raised Clearwater, I remember learning about this in school as well as the purple hatters ball. this girl losing her life at the root of a marijuana charge is so fucked up and sad. thanks for shedding light on injustices of all kinds, hope this opens conversations for people, it definitely did in my home tonight! love to you all from Florida! 🖤
Unfortunately this has happened so many times to confidential informants and it shocks me these cases arent a bigger deal but it makes sense cuz when a CI gets murdered theres no one left to say anything and the cops can tell whatever story they want!!!! CIs should have a long criminal record and jail time...why they would do this to a girl on her first offense is mind blowing!!!!
The amount of injustice in this case is truly astounding and frankly disturbing. Several times while listening I audibly gasped and grew increasingly frustrated with every screw up by law enforcement. I can’t imagine how hard this has been and will continue to be for her family. Truly a horrifying story. With that, thank you guys for bringing attention to such an important case. I can’t think of anyone better to have shared her story with the same amount of passion and conviction you both have for victims of all kinds of injustices.
It's blatantly obvious that Rachel was thought of as collateral damage from the beginning. To have so many official departments involved and only 1 person "Pooh Bear" assigned to watch/help her is ridiculous. 🤔🤨
So I have worked as a therapist for 15 years, struggled with addiction myself and have worked in addiction/recovery field since I got clean and I CANT BELIEVE that this whole tragic mess was set into motion for WEED!!! I have seen people lose everything through addiction to many things : weed, alcohol, heroin etc but in general those that are addicted to weed/use weed don’t need to be put in the situation that Rachel was *forced* into … Also her attorney has privilege and would not need to share anything with drug court. It would be the police that would have done that.
Fr this all led to this from a small amount of weed and every dealer I’ve known had 10 times that amount if not more. And a “few pills” quoted by the officer. Not saying she shouldn’t have been charged but not the charges they intended to put on her.
the second half ripped apart my stomach. I could feel her fear and anxiety as she drove alone in her car, following those scumbags. Rest in paradise Rachel 💖
I'm totally in to all you guys put out there. But, I'm a long time fan, and your true crime deep-dives have always been my favorite part of your content. Thank you for shedding some light on these all important cases. Top notch work! 💪🏼
I’m livid watching this. How could they completely fail this poor girl. And then try and smear her name after the fact? Just insane. Rest in peace Rachel
THANK you so much for covering this case. It’s really sad but often (in my experience) many individuals in law enforcement see all that USE drugs as addicts and they see addicts as DISPOSABLE. It’s awful.
I cannot imagine the pain of losing a child in this way, how anyone could sympathize with the cops over Rachel and her family is beyond me, I couldn’t stretch my thinking out of the box enough to think of one reason. May they have a heavy conscious knowing that they play a large responsibility on her murder and god be with Rachels family
the police were in the wrong and they all should have been charged in this case! They deserve prison time! How dare they manipulate this young women the way they did! per usual thinking they are above the law. I'm so sorry to her mother. This was so unfair!
You're really misinformed. This is not a random case. Every cop in every jurisdiction does this. They use users to catch bigger fish. People need to stop being used. Stop singing with the police can help them out of charges. The police can't recommend anything to the court wants. You catch your case, the cops can't do a fucking thing for you. All they're gonna do is use an abuse you. That's why they say don't talk to them. Because they're gonna take your words and twist them against u
This is absolutely ridiculous. The cops need to be help accountable. 😮I’m so shocked. I’m praying for her family and friends. She was taken wayy too early 😢 I love how you guys covered it from her perspective. They need justice. Them blaming her is so terrible. They got away with murder basically. I can’t believe it. 😡😡
This just pisses me off so much.....these so called police officers should be jailed.....can't tell you how angry I am...so sorry for Rachel Andy her family xx
Please consider covering the case of Deverrie Schiller in California City, CA (about 1 hr from where I live). It’s been 7 years since her murder and there are still no answers. There’s no coverage on her case anywhere on TH-cam and all that is online are old articles and very limited updates regarding reward money… it’s as if her case has just been forgotten / ignored by the public and it seriously breaks my heart for her family knowing they still have not received justice. 💔
Thank you for covering this case about Rachel. I’m not even done listening/watching and I’m pissed as hell at the injustice here. This poor girl was taken advantage of so badly by these cops
This episode made me cry so sad ! We all did stupid stuff in college everyone does! Ughhh anyone of us could have been in Rachel's position geeze so so sad
Thank you for reporting her story, she was a good friend of mine and it was devastating to go through this and devastating for her family and friends. She is always missed and her parents live near me now, and have us as a secondary family.
Starting as Freshmen in high school and repeated each year afterward, kids need to be trained in their Constitutional rights, *especially* the fact that you have no interaction with any cop without demanding an attorney (and their parents while they're under 18).
So glad y’all covered this case - but I’m shaking with anger and sadness. I genuinely can’t understand how those who were involved sleep at night? Shame on the Tallahassee police dept for not taking any accountability. Rest in peace to Rachel, and my heart goes out to her parents, family and friends. ❤
The chief saying she deviated from the plan? She thought they were following her and listening. Acting like she was some kind of criminal. The ridiculous statements by the police chief focusing on her and not their complete, udder incompetence!! She was never convicted of a crime
And we could also argue that the police themselves deviated from the plan since their equipment failed, which was not part of the plan. Their incompetency is astounding.
It's really shocking how little police departments are held accountable for the crimes they often commit, but if everyday people do the same crime we're jailed for life (or worse). Crazy. It's literally their JOB to follow the law. They should know it like the back of their hand if they're aloud to carry a damn gun! Weird. Every single one of them set that young woman up.
This was so upsetting 😢 and infuriating. Rachel deserved so much more than this. I feel so sad for her friends and family. The way the police spoke about her after the fact is absolutely appalling. I hope this haunts them for the rest of their lives.
This is the most ridiculous police department story I've heard . I'm in shock at the lack of safety and regard for this girl. This is just so ridiculous, she should have been trained at least but they shouldn't have ever had her involved with drug dealers like that. What a Dammn shame on this police department. This is absolutely disgusting. I will pray for this girls family. I can't imagine the pain they've felt because of this .
14:20 that police department must’ve been really f*cking bored to get a warrant for a college student’s dorm room, that’s selling small quantities of weed! My god!
I love the theme song you guys have in the intro of your videos!! I could fall asleep to it because it’s so soothing! I wish I could find a longer version or something super similar
Of course she was coerced. We don't threaten people he says --- oh bullcrap, that's ridiculous. Of course they are threatening her with prison time and the prosecutor was not even in on deciding. The prosecutor isn't even required to follow any deal the police offered her if she had completed this and survived, it could be all for nothing. I've seen that happen, someone told if they do x they won't get charged and then the prosecutor says I wasn't informed and I don't agree AFTER the person already took the risks
Love your podcast, thank you all for awesome work! It means a lot, that victims have their stories told, and their names staying relevant to people who otherwise wouldn't know who they are 💯
Rachel was completely taken advantage of by the TPD. She should have never been put in this position in the first place. She was put in this position because they clearly took advantage of her. I’m so sorry that this happened to you Rachel. RIP 💜 I hope your family can find peace again one day.
They often don't tell the prosecutor and manipulate people to "cooperate" and make "deals" the police actually have no authority to make - the police don't get to decide on charges
I live in Live oak, Florida and Spirit of Suwannee has some really amazing events and springs. TPD made me so angry this episode. They should have paid them even more. Rest in Peace ❤️❤️😭😭
Thank you for making amazing content that brings light to such important issues. I’m food prepping for the week and listening while I cook. Thank you for everything you do ❤
No parent should ever ever have to bury their child. No amount of money can take their pain away. RIP Rachel. They literally used her as a sacrificial lamb.
This happened in my hometown and I've somehow never heard of this case. I even went to summer camp at that park for years, wow. Thank you for covering!
1. There’s no way that was the biggest bust in Tennessee history, maybe that county… 2. Those cops should have never let her out of her sight, NEVER!!!!!! 3. Those cops should go to prison for involuntary manslaughter, or negligent homicide at least , no!? 4 . How did the DA sign off on any of , they have to
Her body was found in the tiny town I live in, my husband’s hometown. He had never even heard of this happening. This whole situation is beyond unbelievable 😰😰😰😰
Thank you guys so much for covering these cases that are so close to home for me❤️ a lot of the suwannee fest community has spoken out about how it’s so wrong how this all went down. Truly heartbreaking…
Thank you both for speaking about this case. I can't imagine how hard it must of been for you both. Take care. ❤ This is such a heart wrenching case. The police definitely did wrong here and got away with it all. So, so sad.
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Wow, shout out to that ABC investigator for pushing him and asking the hard questions! He did not care at all how uncomfortable the police chief might feel, he just wanted the truth! Good for him.
Yes he did a fantastic job, and excellent questions 😊
It's a freaking scandal !! They simply used her, with absolutely zero concern for her. You cannot ''punish'' a person for having a bit of weed by making them buy cocaine in large amounts. She was totally set up and it costed her life. So super sad.
They do this everyday w every bust. They're not usually so stupid to make you go ask for things. You're not normally getting, but they try to flip every drug user. The police are legally allowed to lie to you to use you and abuse you for their benefit. That's why people say don't talk to the police. Cause they're not there to help you. They can't make any recommendations to the judge. That's not how it works.
But from what we know Rachel was a pretty steady low time dealer who sold to her college buddies and apparently classmates I guess to, and that isn't cool, I know she had fun and was the dealer around town for the college crowd, but she didn't live a clean life so when you get pinched, with more than just a couple of dynamics, and we know that she had a pretty good amount when she was pulled over, she got herself into this fix , it's just too bad that the cops gave her too heavy of an assignment and probably just a few stock phrases to use
Thank you for covering this. Rachel was a dear friend of mine. I miss her loving, inclusive heart and her joyful laugh. I just want people to know that she was a regular college student. She liked music and dancing. We all miss her very much, and her murder forever altered the lives of her family and friends. Her story deserves to be told. Thank you.
God we’re so sorry for your loss Kelly, she seemed like an amazing person.
@@MileHigher ❤ Thank you. She really was one of a kind.
I’m so sorry for your loss and yes kendall and Josh thank you for doing such an amazing job on this.
I’m so sorry 😢 😢
Is there anyway we can help her loved ones get justice? Is there a petition I can sign or a number I can call, an email? Anything at all in the entire world that I can do to make these cops pay for what they did to her.
Im five seconds in and im already rolling my eyes "we dont threaten people"
You dont have to literally threaten people, you're COPS, just by your very nature you are threatening
THIS!!!
No literally!! I had police in my house all the time growing up bc of family problems. They NEVER threatened me. But to this day I can’t handle being near any police. Got pulled over once and had to take my emergency anxiety meds because my panic attack was so bad. They only pulled me over bc of my bfs window tint and I still PANICKED.
Perfect example of how drug crimes and drug addicts are treated way worse then rape and murder! She wasn’t a drug addict they smeared her as one. This is unforgivable and there the criminals! 😢 her family was robbed of there only child.
She was a drug dealer, so think of all the laws that were broken behind the scenes for her own dealers to eventually get their product to her so she could sell to her customers... she was no angel and deserved her sentence as she had more than a lousy dime bag, Rachel had a while operation going on. OK she wasn't selling meth and crack, just weed, but still. Nevertheless the cops didn't need to seems her into harm's way, to penetrate into known dangerous sellers.. they have their own undercover agents
It's just so unbelievably sad.... the cops are COMPLETELY at fault here & should be held accountable.
The police used Rachel, listening to Rachel's parents speak about her is heartbreaking. The police should take one hundred percent responsibility. They messed up and need to take accountability.
They should be charged for her murder right along with the others. This one really got to me.
@papacitojr.co.8908 maybe not murder, since they didn't murder her, but they should be charged with a felony
It also shows to her character that even under police pressure she didn't give up her friends and rather risk her life than put people who didn't deserve it in prison.
I am shaking with rage and sadness. How fucking dare they.. and then to LITERALLY do a smear campaign against her while she’s dead.. I just want to scream.
Not just dead, but still in a ditch
Right, I’m so glad she told people! Imagine if she didn’t tell anyone.
EXACTLY!!! I FEEL THE EXACT SAME WAY!
My friend used to buy and sell weed to her. This was such a messed up thing. She was such a sweet person. Hurts my heart anytime I think about those times. We were all just college kids. Thanks for bringing more awareness
@@goodcitizen-ft9bghow did you get to that conclusion? It was probably another girl in college with them. As the comment says: WE were all just college kids.
@@ladylavender93again, that’s the friend that whacked her!??
@@ladylavender93I can't see their comment what did they say?
Wait so instead of going after your friend who was dealing her weed Rachel refused to snitch on her and do this crazy huge drug bust for the cops?
@DoorsToHideBehind156 didn't you listen to the episode as this was stated.
Purple Hatter’s Ball was a festival here in Florida that benefitted the foundation in Rachel’s honor. That’s how I learned about her story. It’s especially sad to me that this happened due to a marijuana charge….meanwhile people are getting rich legally selling it today. It shouldn’t have been a crime in the first place…how many people have we lost to death or prison over marijuana that could have really contributed to our society? Over a plant? Insanity.
That’s how I learned about her too. Such a tragic story
I totally agree with you.
Too many. Far too many.
This case is astonishing. Nineteen ppl of authority involved and not one of them pulled the plug when things started deviating. Thank you for sharing Rachel’s story. I’ve never heard of it before, and it is infuriating.
Just finished this. Thanks Josh for the pre-warning of frustration 😂. She didn’t follow instructions they say. Meanwhile she followed more instructions than all of the police officers that day combined. Truly awful my heart goes out to the family.
My son was at a stop sign in the rural area we live in, he sat there deciding if he wanted to stop in the nearby small store or go on to one down the road. He chose the one just down from him and as soon as he parked he was blocked in by a jump out boy who thought he sat at the stop sign a bit too long. He was asked about that and my son told him what he was doing.
He allowed them to search the car. His sister’s car. The jump out boy found a cigarette pack under the passenger seat that had a roach in it. He had just dropped off a friend a bit earlier. That friend had left this behind. The jump out boy had a solution to avoid a drug charge. He wanted my son to give up dealers or drug house locations.
My son told him he had no clue about any of those things because he didn’t do drugs. He told him he didn’t know anyone that would have that info. He was told ”I’m sure you’ll come up with something”.
I sent him to an attorney who the checked the car and with that and the information of that nights interaction he told him not to worry. Needless to say, this all went away as soon as the attorney contacted law enforcement.
All this to say that law enforcement will twist and turn things to their advantage without any thought to you or your liberties. Always, always contact an attorney. Always.
Ugh I'm sorry you and your son dealt with this. I was blessed to only have good experiences with law enforcement where I grew up in NJ. But when I moved to NV I was in for a rough awakening. I have more than ten awful interactions but yours reminds of one specific time. My best friend and I were just chilling in a Wendy's parking lot in her car, listening to music and eating frosties together. A little ways down the street a fight broke out on a bus and the cops were called to it. We decided to head out so we wouldn't get in their way and were slowly backing out of our parking spot when a cop car totally bypassed the bus and pulled a crazy maneuver to block us in. He then pulled us out of the car at gunpoint and I was so close to the cop that I could see his finger was already on the trigger. Everyone watching was screaming to him that it wasn't us but he just stood there yelling at us, ready to shoot. And then he just ran away towards the person involved in the fight that now had gotten a huge start.
So relieved to hear your son spoke about this with you instead of trying to deal with it on his own. That is so sad.
@@Mercado99 I live in NJ now and the cops seem pretty good here.
Sorry about your experience in NV. Glad you’re okay. I never understood how cops can just pick two people out of a crowd of onlookers when a fight breaks out. They really need to assess the situation before they act.
Mom always knows best.
WTF is a jump out boy lol
It’s sickening the way TPD essentially used her as disposable because they saw her as a criminal.
Now that it’s legal they should 100% release and apologize to anyone they arrested for it! You can’t legalize weed without fixing the people you locked away for it
Rachel was used by the police as bait. She didn’t deserve to die. The police completely botched the whole thing!!
She should have never been in this situation to begin with! Period!
This is definitely one of the most tragic and frustrating cases I’ve ever heard of. I am in tears. In my opinion the police are just as responsible as the two felons.
Absolutely!
I would even argue that the police are more responsible than the two dealers
@@carrieumphrey1525 I can’t say I disagree.
I have never rage cried so hard before. Rage for how Rachel was treated and how preventable it was. I could feel the devastation from the parents. Thank you for covering this case and not letting it be swept under the rug.
Disgusting. Every cop involved in this should be forever ashamed of themselves. Her poor parents, I cannot imagine what they’ve gone through.
She literally doesn’t have to be gone. She could be here right now if drugs weren’t so stigmatized - especially weed. This is so effed up.
This just disgusts me, them victim blaming her is horrible. I understand the parents sued the city, I'm so glad. All those involved should pay victim restitution and be fired.
Yes and out of there pensions not a cops insurance block set up by the city and paid for with tax dollars too!
This is a sad but very important case. I do enjoy the unexplained, paranormal, mystery episodes more so, but bringing these cases to light, a case that changed Florida law & legislature, should be way more well known. Great episode MH fam. ❤ from Florida
Just some general feedback. I might be in the minority but I thought I'd just mention it: I am not a super fan of the preview in the beginning of videos. Not because I don't want "spoilers" or anything, but I always try to keep an open mind and hear everything out. And some times the previews kind of set the tone of what you should think right away. I don't know. I guess most cases aren't covered in a neutral way or anything, cause it shouldn't be usually! But I still thought I'd take the time to say at least how one viewer feels about it. At this point I always try to skip the beginning, just to not see it. But I guess your analytics can tell if most people watch it or not.. I dont know.
But thank you for all the hard work the team does! I watch every episode across the channels every time
you can still hear everything out
Thank you guys so much for speaking out on this case this is so so common in Columbus Ohio!!! It's horrible!!!
I just commented a similar comment. We are located rather close.
That’s absolutely terrifying
Wow. I live in Columbus Ohio and I had no idea…
This is common??? That is terrifying! 😮
Midwest Oklahoma down south…etc they need to stop! I think the reason why it’s not legal in these little country towns?? Not much else going on may as well make money off of arresting these poor kids smoking weed!!!
A civilian should have never been sent to conduct a such highly dangerous transaction! That's work for undercover officers. RIP Rachel, and shame on TPD!
You're right, this did aggravate me....I have no words. Those cops should be fired and arrested. Absolutely DISGUSTING
born and raised Clearwater, I remember learning about this in school as well as the purple hatters ball. this girl losing her life at the root of a marijuana charge is so fucked up and sad. thanks for shedding light on injustices of all kinds, hope this opens conversations for people, it definitely did in my home tonight! love to you all from Florida! 🖤
Unfortunately this has happened so many times to confidential informants and it shocks me these cases arent a bigger deal but it makes sense cuz when a CI gets murdered theres no one left to say anything and the cops can tell whatever story they want!!!! CIs should have a long criminal record and jail time...why they would do this to a girl on her first offense is mind blowing!!!!
Especially a non violent offense.
The amount of injustice in this case is truly astounding and frankly disturbing. Several times while listening I audibly gasped and grew increasingly frustrated with every screw up by law enforcement. I can’t imagine how hard this has been and will continue to be for her family. Truly a horrifying story. With that, thank you guys for bringing attention to such an important case. I can’t think of anyone better to have shared her story with the same amount of passion and conviction you both have for victims of all kinds of injustices.
It's blatantly obvious that Rachel was thought of as collateral damage from the beginning. To have so many official departments involved and only 1 person "Pooh Bear" assigned to watch/help her is ridiculous. 🤔🤨
So I have worked as a therapist for 15 years, struggled with addiction myself and have worked in addiction/recovery field since I got clean and I CANT BELIEVE that this whole tragic mess was set into motion for WEED!!!
I have seen people lose everything through addiction to many things : weed, alcohol, heroin etc but in general those that are addicted to weed/use weed don’t need to be put in the situation that Rachel was *forced* into …
Also her attorney has privilege and would not need to share anything with drug court. It would be the police that would have done that.
Fr this all led to this from a small amount of weed and every dealer I’ve known had 10 times that amount if not more. And a “few pills” quoted by the officer. Not saying she shouldn’t have been charged but not the charges they intended to put on her.
"Do this or else" is literally the definition of a threat. I don't know why anyone at all, anywhere, believes LE when they say she wasn't threatened.
the second half ripped apart my stomach. I could feel her fear and anxiety as she drove alone in her car, following those scumbags.
Rest in paradise Rachel 💖
I'm totally in to all you guys put out there. But, I'm a long time fan, and your true crime deep-dives have always been my favorite part of your content. Thank you for shedding some light on these all important cases. Top notch work! 💪🏼
Their incompetency cost this young girl her life and they can't apologize
Wow😢the way they blamed her is sickening.
This was a horrible story. The police completely destroyed this from the start.. I feel so bad for Rachel’s family and friends.
I’m livid watching this. How could they completely fail this poor girl. And then try and smear her name after the fact? Just insane. Rest in peace Rachel
This is WILD. Talk about hounding and harassment. Such shady behaviour from the police
I was raised and live in the area where all this happened and I had never heard of this case...thanks for covering this.
Absolutely so heartbreaking and infuriating at the same time!
THANK you so much for covering this case. It’s really sad but often (in my experience) many individuals in law enforcement see all that USE drugs as addicts and they see addicts as DISPOSABLE.
It’s awful.
Even though many of them drink and get high. 😑 It's the role of the cop that creates this hypocrisy- they are above the law.
@@EMILY4DAYS exactly
I cannot imagine the pain of losing a child in this way, how anyone could sympathize with the cops over Rachel and her family is beyond me, I couldn’t stretch my thinking out of the box enough to think of one reason. May they have a heavy conscious knowing that they play a large responsibility on her murder and god be with Rachels family
Okays guys
This one made me cry. Thank you for sharing this on your channel. I felt a range of emotions, from anger to complete utter sorrow. ❤
the police were in the wrong and they all should have been charged in this case! They deserve prison time! How dare they manipulate this young women the way they did! per usual thinking they are above the law. I'm so sorry to her mother. This was so unfair!
You're really misinformed. This is not a random case. Every cop in every jurisdiction does this. They use users to catch bigger fish. People need to stop being used. Stop singing with the police can help them out of charges. The police can't recommend anything to the court wants. You catch your case, the cops can't do a fucking thing for you. All they're gonna do is use an abuse you. That's why they say don't talk to them. Because they're gonna take your words and twist them against u
This is absolutely ridiculous. The cops need to be help accountable. 😮I’m so shocked. I’m praying for her family and friends. She was taken wayy too early 😢 I love how you guys covered it from her perspective. They need justice. Them blaming her is so terrible. They got away with murder basically. I can’t believe it. 😡😡
This just pisses me off so much.....these so called police officers should be jailed.....can't tell you how angry I am...so sorry for Rachel Andy her family xx
Please consider covering the case of Deverrie Schiller in California City, CA (about 1 hr from where I live). It’s been 7 years since her murder and there are still no answers. There’s no coverage on her case anywhere on TH-cam and all that is online are old articles and very limited updates regarding reward money… it’s as if her case has just been forgotten / ignored by the public and it seriously breaks my heart for her family knowing they still have not received justice. 💔
Thank you for covering this case about Rachel. I’m not even done listening/watching and I’m pissed as hell at the injustice here. This poor girl was taken advantage of so badly by these cops
I am so thanful yall covered this. Keep her name out there. I remember this all and i remember how upset and angry the community was.
This episode made me cry so sad ! We all did stupid stuff in college everyone does! Ughhh anyone of us could have been in Rachel's position geeze so so sad
Thank you for reporting her story, she was a good friend of mine and it was devastating to go through this and devastating for her family and friends. She is always missed and her parents live near me now, and have us as a secondary family.
Starting as Freshmen in high school and repeated each year afterward, kids need to be trained in their Constitutional rights, *especially* the fact that you have no interaction with any cop without demanding an attorney (and their parents while they're under 18).
THIS!!!
Tallahassee is my hometown and I never heard of this case, it’s so crazy and sad this happened to her.
So glad y’all covered this case - but I’m shaking with anger and sadness. I genuinely can’t understand how those who were involved sleep at night? Shame on the Tallahassee police dept for not taking any accountability. Rest in peace to Rachel, and my heart goes out to her parents, family and friends. ❤
You all did a great job covering this case. This is so sad, her poor family. ❤
The chief saying she deviated from the plan? She thought they were following her and listening. Acting like she was some kind of criminal. The ridiculous statements by the police chief focusing on her and not their complete, udder incompetence!! She was never convicted of a crime
And we could also argue that the police themselves deviated from the plan since their equipment failed, which was not part of the plan. Their incompetency is astounding.
It's really shocking how little police departments are held accountable for the crimes they often commit, but if everyday people do the same crime we're jailed for life (or worse). Crazy. It's literally their JOB to follow the law. They should know it like the back of their hand if they're aloud to carry a damn gun! Weird. Every single one of them set that young woman up.
This happens so often in my area and it is heartbreaking. It also is so completely infuriating.
This is so heart breaking and infuriating.. Thank you so much for covering this. Positive thoughts to you and yours..
Living in Tallahassee, I remember this case all too well. You guys do everything! Love you Kendall and Josh!!!
Thank you for putting the time stamps back ! 😊
This was so upsetting 😢 and infuriating. Rachel deserved so much more than this. I feel so sad for her friends and family. The way the police spoke about her after the fact is absolutely appalling. I hope this haunts them for the rest of their lives.
Thank you All for doing this commentary, it's the best one I have ever seen. Not best, so sad-not best due to the sadness
Wow. I have no words about this case…. Heartbreaking and infuriating.
Incredibly heartbreaking and wrong on so many levels. 😞
I went to FSU in 2013. People still told the tale of her story, and to never trust TPD.
This is the most ridiculous police department story I've heard . I'm in shock at the lack of safety and regard for this girl. This is just so ridiculous, she should have been trained at least but they shouldn't have ever had her involved with drug dealers like that. What a Dammn shame on this police department. This is absolutely disgusting. I will pray for this girls family. I can't imagine the pain they've felt because of this .
14:20 that police department must’ve been really f*cking bored to get a warrant for a college student’s dorm room, that’s selling small quantities of weed! My god!
I love the theme song you guys have in the intro of your videos!! I could fall asleep to it because it’s so soothing! I wish I could find a longer version or something super similar
Insane I teared up watching this! It breaks my heart that this could of been 110% avoided..my prayers go out to the family and friends of hers 💜
Of course she was coerced. We don't threaten people he says --- oh bullcrap, that's ridiculous. Of course they are threatening her with prison time and the prosecutor was not even in on deciding. The prosecutor isn't even required to follow any deal the police offered her if she had completed this and survived, it could be all for nothing. I've seen that happen, someone told if they do x they won't get charged and then the prosecutor says I wasn't informed and I don't agree AFTER the person already took the risks
They didn't consult with the state attorney because its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. Sad but true
So my name is Rachel Hoffman and I immediately recognized her face in the thumbnail from looking up my own name on google as a kid
When you guys talked about programs with a therapeutic approach. This is actually something an Occupational Therapist can implement:)
Love your podcast, thank you all for awesome work! It means a lot, that victims have their stories told, and their names staying relevant to people who otherwise wouldn't know who they are 💯
So let me get this straight, passing a law to protect CI's would be the "end of law enforcement." 😤😒
Very very sad and completely avoidable...
Rachel was completely taken advantage of by the TPD. She should have never been put in this position in the first place. She was put in this position because they clearly took advantage of her. I’m so sorry that this happened to you Rachel. RIP 💜 I hope your family can find peace again one day.
They often don't tell the prosecutor and manipulate people to "cooperate" and make "deals" the police actually have no authority to make - the police don't get to decide on charges
Love that you guys do this glad I could catch the beginning this week without rewatching!
I live in Live oak, Florida and Spirit of Suwannee has some really amazing events and springs.
TPD made me so angry this episode. They should have paid them even more. Rest in Peace ❤️❤️😭😭
Thank you for making amazing content that brings light to such important issues. I’m food prepping for the week and listening while I cook. Thank you for everything you do ❤
Police calling the murderers "mister" and the continuous victim blaming is repugnant.
This is sad beyond words, but eloquently covered. I hope this beautiful young woman's parents and lived ones have found peace some how......Blessings!
No parent should ever ever have to bury their child. No amount of money can take their pain away. RIP Rachel. They literally used her as a sacrificial lamb.
This happened in my hometown and I've somehow never heard of this case. I even went to summer camp at that park for years, wow. Thank you for covering!
1. There’s no way that was the biggest bust in Tennessee history, maybe that county…
2. Those cops should have never let her out of her sight, NEVER!!!!!!
3. Those cops should go to prison for involuntary manslaughter, or negligent homicide at least , no!?
4 . How did the DA sign off on any of , they have to
The way they blamed her in that first press unit omfg😮
I watch every single mile higher episode and have since you guys started this pod. This is the saddest story I’ve heard.
Omgsh, im so excited to participate! I lived in a house in TN that had ghosts and I got one of them on camera! Definitely going to share!
All that over some weed and six pills? I don’t even use any kinds of drugs or alcohol and even I’m like, that’s nuts.
I forgot that I knew this story until you all got in depth about it. It’s absolutely infuriating!!
I’m furious. There’s no reason for this.
My favorite podcast duo. Ty for all the great podcasts. ❤
Her body was found in the tiny town I live in, my husband’s hometown. He had never even heard of this happening. This whole situation is beyond unbelievable 😰😰😰😰
Thank you guys so much for covering these cases that are so close to home for me❤️ a lot of the suwannee fest community has spoken out about how it’s so wrong how this all went down. Truly heartbreaking…
Thank you both for speaking about this case. I can't imagine how hard it must of been for you both. Take care. ❤
This is such a heart wrenching case. The police definitely did wrong here and got away with it all. So, so sad.
This cop giving the interview is a complete narcissist
The “okay, anyways…lol” said in tandem by both of you after the a/c on all winter cuddling banter was adorable lol I love you guys! 😊 couple goals