WAKANDA FOREVER Original Ending & DELETED SCENES Explained
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- Wakanda Forever Original Ending Explained! Thanks to Keeps for sponsoring this video! Head to keeps.com/SCRE... to get a special offer.
We breakdown the deleted scenes of Wakanda Forever and how they set up the sequel, the new phase of h MCU, and a showdown with the Thunderbolts. Also, what was the original draft of the movie? We're here to explain.
Thanks for supporting our channel! Check out our MERCH Store Here → screencrushmer...
James Gunn announced the brand new reorganized movie universe, with details about Superman, Batman & Robin, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, The Authority, Green Lantern, and many more.
Go here → screencrush.com/
TikTok → / screencrushnews
Like us → / screencrush
Follow us → / screencrushnews
Get our newsletter → screencrush.com...
Written and Hosted by Ryan Arey ( / ryanarey )
Edited by Harriet Lengel-Enright, Randolf Nombrado, and Lee Mazzio
#WakandaForever #DeletedScenes
Thanks to Keeps for sponsoring this video! Head to keeps.com/SCREENCRUSH to get a special offer.
Funfact everytime the guy comes into your shop and you tell him to use Keeps makes him later comeback because it seem to doesnt work. :D
Don't forget the eternals.
Does it regrow hair as in the pictures shown? I'm assuming it doesn't change the colour of the hair as in the first photo shown but I thought it just kept existing hair.
Thanks :) x
It's amazing that a major mainstream movie is highlighting America's imperialism, and France's exploitation of Africa. But much like how Avatar shows how America and other nations invade native lands and plunder their resources but it goes over the heads of most of the audience I expect the same is the case with Wakanda Forever. But $h!t is real. af.
Hi to my and my sons favourite Marvel etc. lore savant , easter egg magician and much more, other than liking every video we would like 1 thing!! Buy this ScreenCrush Video Polo Shirt in blue, black would do if blue is to scarce... for month it is sold out... greetings from Germany and keep up your fantastic work!!
In regards to that first scene...the Dora were ALWAYS an institution that put rules over people. That's why Ramonda had a grudge against Okoye: she led the Dora in standing by Killmonger after his coup. Ramonda took it as a personal betrayal, but to their knowledge Killmonger had won the challenge and was the rightful King, so her hands were tied.
I definitely felt Okoye’s absence from the second act of the film, and honestly wish they kept the scenes with her and Anika and Ayo in the film
She is getting a disney plus show
@@pookiesis1465 The show that with no release date is about Wakanda. No guarantee what her screen time will look like
I'm glad they left out that Bald headed demon lol.
@@TehStylishone it Wakanda base okye is confirmed lead in it she no longer a dora so it not about them
Loook up her deleted scenes
I see how the original plot of Chadwick mourning the loss of time is paralleled by Antman’s dilemma with Kang due to his loss of time. Imagine if Chadwick never passed and we got an on screen interaction between Black Panther and Kang, more specifically Chadwick and Jonathan Majors. 🤯
Would've been epic
Chadwick and Tenoch Huerta's scenes would have been amazing too
@@jvillanueva2978 agreed
Not paralleled - clearly Feige took that OG Wakanda Forever script and used it for Quantumania instead.
The similarities are far too obvious for it to be mere coincidence.
Just like Feige flat out ripped off DCEU's Aquaman and MCU Iron Man 2 for the major plot elements of nu Wakanda Forever.
@@mnomadvfx Kevin didn’t write the script
Being that Ta'Challa gave his son his name, they can still do a T'Challa/Storm love story... By the time they bring X-Men into the MCU, he'll be older ..
I hope there is a director's cut that appears on Disney+ after they sell all the Blurays
At this point, we need Director's Cuts of more MCU films. Heard the Director's Cut of Multiverse of Madness was supposedly so good
I thin Mbaku is actually going to be a good leader. He's wise, strong, understanding and mostly follows tradition
He’s also very brash, reckless, and stubborn
Mbaku detests Wakanda. He also already has his own kingdom where he is King.... Coogler let alot of continuity issues. He cut lots of stuff to accommodate Agent Ross boring scenes. For such a long movie they would have done way more
@@afnd4603 I think agent Ross scenes were important to set up Thunderbolts and the invasion of WAKANDA. It happens in the cartoon series.
@@kjbeast677 when was he reckless? I feel like in Wakanda, he's the character who contemplates before getting into action the most
@@bapbap4126 right? He’s never been reckless.
It would appear from the trailers that T'Challa mourning the loss of time with his son will now be used for Scott Lang in Quantumania. I love how Marvel never completely throws ideas away, they just bide their time and keep them in their story idea toolbox.
How was that Okoye/Ayo/Aneka stuff exluded?!?! My best guess is they are saving for an extended origin via Disney+ as a series...
Exactly what i came here to say!
The movie was already 2 hours and 45 minutes; they simply didn't want to go to the 3 hours (even if that was what was needed to tell the full story).
In a perfect world, Wakanda Forever is a two-part movie; 100 minutes for part one, 100 minutes for part two (need to go back and see again, but basically the point where Namor is addressing his people, ahead of the assault on Wakanda, would likely be the cut point.)
Add back the Martin Freeman scene (assuming it'd be right after the ride back with Val and the call from Queen Ramonda), add back the "Okoye to the rescue" scene (clash with the Dora and the Royal Guard, opening up the unease from Aneka) to Part one, and then add a "fallout" scene (initial reactions to the death of Queen Ramonda, diving some more into Shuri's bubbling rage at the loss of her family, add back the "Daughter of the Border scene (placing it during the interregnum after the attack), add back the "Anytime, Anywhere" scene (sealing the Shuri/Okoye pact in Haiti, with Okoye going forward with saving Ross, and Shuri the ritual), and a full crowning ceremony for M'Baku ... and still keep Toussaint in the post credit scene
More Danai Gurira is always a good thing. She's such a strong presence. In sequels someone always gets the short end of the stick, and it was her.
Lol in Doctor Strange 2 it was the doc himself who got the short end, and his own arch nemesis.
How does Disney manage to screw up these basic character rivalries so completely EVERY time?
I felt those Okoye/Ayo/Aneka cuts so hard while watching this film. 😭 So much I love about it, but what they did to that plot leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Wish they'd just left all the Midnight Angels stuff for the series so that they could do the story justice.
I felt like they added to the movie
She is getting a disney plus show
@@pookiesis1465 Like I said in the comment you're replying to: "Wish they'd just left all the Midnight Angels stuff for the series so that they could do the story justice."
@@frostbitetcc It was the storyline I was most looking forward to, and all they gave me was a skeleton. Ayo is my fave Dora Milaje, and it's clear all her lines were left on the cutting-room floor. I was looking forward to seeing her relationship with Aneka develop, but all we got was an awkward kiss on the head at the end out of nowhere.
I can understand, if you don't know anything about this storyline, that you don't know what you missed. But I feel robbed. If they had held back on this story until the TV show, they would not only get the chance to do it justice, but it would have decluttered a film whose greatest criticism from all corners is that it was trying to do too many things at once. This film should have just focused on the T'Challa/Shuri/Namor story...and without the scraps of the Midnight Angels plot, there would have been more room to flesh out Riri, too.
@@ElysiaBrenner Exactly!! This was exactly my problem with watching! I love the Midnight Angels and Ayo, Okoye, Aneka. They were shortchanged rather than moved to a standalone work, and somehow that feels worse.
I came away from Wakanda Forever assuming Okoye as the Midnight Angel was working for the Wakanda government. The fact that her and Aneka are working as outsiders should have been in the film itself.
These scenes were super important, i would have gladly sat through a longer film. Sad they cut them
She is getting a disney plus show
@@pookiesis1465 The movies should elevate the show and the shows should elevate the movies. Removing those scenes did not help do that.
Removing scenes like that in favor of probably using them later in a TV show/movie is really starting to damage MCU media. This is bad..
Damn, I hate how they got rid of so much of Okoye's story. She is definitely my favorite Wakandian character!
I think Shuri didn't ask them to bring Okoye along to Talokan because everyone on the bridge thought Okoye might have been dead at that point. The Talokanil probably didn't even want to check on her because they probably thought humans can't survive that long under water while unconscious if that's what she was. They also probably didn't pay attention to the fact that Okoye cut the water bomb in half before it exploded and that may have lessed it's impact and ended up not killing her right on the bridge.
An issue I have with that scene, in which Aneka quits, being deleted is that, that scene would have established her relationship with Ayo on screen. I felt gross with the only solid establishment being a quick kiss, that Disney could quickly edit out where needed. I'll admit I don't read the comics, as a result that scene would have established that they were in a relationship far better than a small chidding moment that comic book readers alone would recognise. I'm getting exhausted with the way Queerness is and isn't portrayed in the MCU. We got beautiful meta citicism in She-Hulk, but Nikki's sexuality was still a blink and you miss it moment.
HUH? Nikki was queer...? LOLOL guess I blinked & missed it completely.
I think I may have figured out adamantium. BP2 showed us the formula for vibranium and a machine that can locate it. But Shuri’s attempt to make another heart shaped herb was only 98.7% successful. So maybe Ross or the US get 98.7% close to vibranium, making adamantium. Please excuse the spelling.
Yep, they should’ve left the Okoye scenes in the movie. The explain a lot and I love me some Danai.
I think, Okoje's story will be told in more detail in another movie or show. And she deserves to have it told in more detail rather than being a side story in Wakanda Forever.
They should put in the scenes they took out and release the movie as it should have been. Everyone would watch it and appreciate it better.
I would love to see bucky coming back to wakanda as the white wolf. I still wonder why Shuri did not ask for help from Bucky and Sam now Cap. Afterall those two and Steve bothered(asked for help) from Wakanda for years, its only right to pay back some favors.
We don't know what time lapse happened between Falcon & Bucky and Wakanda Forever though. Also Ayo & the Dora Milaje are mad at Bucky for not turning Zemo over sooner.
Outside interferences it would not be good
The Wakandans are extremely suspicious of outsiders due to their century long complete isolation from the outside world, always assuming the worst of them, especially western nations appearently. While I do think Shuri, as well as her brother have overcome this distrust, it wouldve still make other powerful Wakandans question her rulership, hence she chose to not ask foreigners for help.
They would not be much help against Namor but In BP3 I definitely see it happening if the US decide to "destablize" Wakanda.
Because Namor, her cousin.. asked her not to?
I feel like we never get enough of Okoye! Hopefully the TV series will change that.
This was a good video! Thanks for pulling all this together. I agree, the deleted scense with Okoye would have definitely added to a better understanding if they were kept in the movie.
Saw the quick story, and maybe you explain it here, but your timeline of when the Okoye/Elder scene is likely quite off.
The point of a "grieving queen" would make it seem that the scene was from likely shortly after the death of Ramonda, likely before the plan was set to attack Namor in the middle of the ocean
Would have loved more Okoye in the movie hope she gets her time to shine in the series or next movie. But those Midnight Angel suits 😱
Killing Ramonda was a mistake. She was the best part of the film.
Bad over acting.
I really like Wakanda Forever. A couple of those deleted scenes are really illuminating. I hope they do future Wakanda stuff right!
12:55 instead of Tchalla KT being a puppet leader, he can be the savior of Wakanda
That little white dog is the sweetest cutest most precious thing I’ve ever seen. I can watch 20 minutes of him just sitting there in that polo shirt 👕 and just melt. I’d subscribe to your channel just to see more of the dog!!!
The deleted scenes of Anakin meeting Padme's family both makes their incredibly mismatched relationship make sense AND makes their seemingly deranged political system make sense. The movie actually flows as a narrative with those scenes added back in.
Would love to see Reverend Achebe in the next movie -- he's basically Black Panther's Joker
Some men just want to watch Things Fall Apart, Master Bruce.
When I watched this movie I missed some of the subtle repercussions of events on screen. Your excellent episode today has brought those subtleties to light, and more. Thank you!
A lot of the scenes now make sense with Okoye. When asked if she still had any fight left in her. I was confused
That destabilization line, is hilarious to me. like bro y'all can't even get in the doe 😂😂😂
I truly believe Nakia would have made a better Black Panther since she was more of a warrior fighter type while Shuri is more of an intelligent character but I mean Tony was also a more intelligent character and he was also one of the best fighters so I understand the leap from an unskilled fighter gaining enhancement to become the superhero but the skills Nakia already had would have been well earned as the next Black Panther!
3:14 I remember a clip from this scene was included in the teaser trailer.
6:40 Vulture only hijacked the Stark cargo plane containing items from Avengers Tower.
Yeah, several of those deleted scenes would have changed the tone at the end of the movie. I never once saw any hint of a fractured Wakanda at the end. I figured M'Bari took the role as King with Shuri's blessing and she stayed on as Black Panther. I mean, is there any law in Wakanda that says the two must be the same person?
Dude this was a god tier breakdown!
Ah, that deleted Okoye vs. Dora scene makes sense. I feel like they used some of that footage in the trailers.
What about the deleted scenes between N'amor and Shuri?
Screen Crush, just to let you know, the President the new Secretary of State is referring to is Ritson, who will appear in Secret Invasion, not Ross.
I loved your detailed insights on these missing scenes. It makes me appreciate the final product and the continuation of its story.
Kevin Feige, please put these deleted scenes into the Okoye series!
10:48 Okoye is faith is rocked when she learns the truth.
Mordo from Dr. Strange has entered the chat
Multiple people vying for the destabilization of Wakanda and at the heart of it all, Doom.
Thank for another amazing video ryan can't wait for okoye midnight angel series.
17:33 Kang reveales himself as a future King of Wakanda that identified the moment of the Kingdom fall as being a moment in time to take perfect advantage of plus he brings Killmonger for the ride as well.
Danai is my Idol I'm gonna watch anything she's in anyway.🤣💜
Thanks for sharing
Yeah I wish they could release an extended cut kinda like no way home.. this should be a norm for MCU movies
I hope they do a director cut
When the unmade script sounds better than the actual movie then they have a problem, they should've recast T'challa and made the actual movie.
Absolutely LOVE the Stuart Scott reference, Ryan.
Ayo and Aneka should have been the ones to try to rescue Shuri, with Aneka accidentally killing someone.
But that's not why people hate you JJ. "Somehow Palpatine..." NOT NOW POE!
The Okoyé scenes would have made a pretty good movie great.
Interesting… and this is where Namor comes in because he yielded to Shuri and not Wakanda. He will not accept partnership with anyone besides Shuri - he has feelings for her.
please allow automatic captions !
Great content
Your review was better than the actual movie.
I think we need to factor in Secret Wars too, so if a US president in the MCU moves against Wakanda it may actually be the Skrulls.
Yeah I'm here.
Watched Wakanda Forever on my flight home to LA and enjoyed it. Wish they kept these scenes in
I just cant believe Okoye doesnt also come with a Holo shield in one of the beads.
Wow, these deleted scenes could have made it so much better, especially if they leaned more into it. Some winter soldier vibes. Makes since to have Ayo and the border tribe clash with now king M'baku. I was really disappointed by the released version. It failed on so many levels and was too superficial. They wasted/rushed intro of Ironheart. She would have been better off having a mini series prior to BP3. Namor actor was good, but the plot device they used for his actions made his character fall flat. BP2 was almost as bad as Eternals. Hopefully BP3 will be better.
Damm Okoye 🥰🥰🥰
Did anyone hear that strange metallic/tubular sounds when the chief were talking to Okoye? You can only hear it when he talks. Whats up with that?
I’m really hoping they introduce the last nation that holds vibranium the Savage Lands. I would love to see Ka-Zar aiding Wakanda and Talocan when the outside world comes for them.
Thanks Ryan!
I believe Okoye not shown to be asked to accompany Shuri in the movie is because Shuri don't Okoye to get hurt because of some guy
For some reason, the 'Outside the Scope' clip that is on TH-cam doesn't include the part where Aneka quits. I assume it's only on the physical release of the film. But, if anyone has a link to the full, deleted scene of the deleted scene, that would be appreciated.
You always have great videos with great info, and this was darn near the top! Thanks! Wow!
Okoye should have been the new BP. Her arc fits her well.
Absolutely!
Absolutely not
Imagine a Game of Thrones-like combination of shows an movies telling a story with Wakanda, Telocan, CIA (and/or infiltrated governments and corporations) and Kang vying for power, and Heroes in the middle of it all dealing with the repercussions. The Superhero Registration act: Street Level and Mutants. Multiverse stuff. Magic stuff. Time stuff. Cosmic stuff. There is a lot of potential for some really interesting dynamics between each new growing faction in an increasingly complex universe
"Mourning the loss of time" - sounds similar, as in that's Ant-Man's dilemma as well.
I like the plot of the further weakening of Wakanda through their internal civil unrest. Hopefully it will be put forward in Wakanda 3. Because every empire will perish when they reached their peak.
Can we talk about the guy wrecking the store because he was going bald. That was funny!
I was just watching this movie with my family a few minutes ago.
I didn't see it and maybe I missed it, but did Namor mention anything about Talokan being affected by the blip
How about a "OOPS! all Doug!" episode? :)
BUUUT can we talk about how that lady is 12ft tall during the last waterfall scene. time code ~2:23:08. Why is she soooo tall? is it canon or an editing error?
' So the movie can happen '. Quoting Pitch Meeting is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
12:35 The US has being doing that TILL TODAY.
"that's 10 sec where my fav 15 min he been on screen" I'm dead hahahaa
Thanks for your hard work and always updating us on the MCU.
Does she look like a Talokanil to you? Post credit scene #1 from Thor The Dark World, behind and to the right of The Collector. I can't unsee it. She looks blue with a face mask.
[as one character speaks to another saying “I told you not to bring them”] - “this shows they have a personal relationship”. 😆
Ross must have a personal relationship with multiple Wakandans! 🤣
are these deleted scenes on disney plus or only on the dvd??
Not on Dis+
Raising Arizona!!!! H.I. McDonough- LOVE IT - “sometimes the menstrual cramps hurt me REAL HARD!!!
Did you that Richard Schiff is
Dr. Emil Hamilton in Man Of Steel(DC)
And in God Of War Ragnarok as Odin Borson himself?
Missed opp to creatively transition from the keeps sponsorship to the bald headed dora milaje hahaha
I still say they should have recast Tchalla.... long live Chadwick we all love and miss him but Tchalla should have lived on
I didn’t feel her absence at all. Now the scenes that where setting up the thunderbolts could have been deleted.
GAME OF THRONES: WAKANDA
Would love to see all the tribes of Wakanda in depth especially Tosin Oduye’s tribe in the upcoming series.
Looking forward to watching the deleted scenes. Maybe with some quick switches, I can go back and forth between Blu-ray and Disney plus to get the 'complete' version 🤔😉😁
Does anyone think Shuri could beat MBaku in a leadership challenge with her Panther powers removed?
Shuri defeated Namor with her tactics and exploiting his weakness. She’s more fit for the technical challenges facing Wakanda faces going forward as everyone is obsessed with their resources and tech.
But from a tribal standpoint she’s far too removed from tradition. So I also don’t see her fighting to rule her country. They might also see the challenges in having the country’s ruler always in harms way as the Black Panther.
No....which is why they didn't do it. Also, her being Queen and M'Baku Black Panther makes no sense. He isn't part of the Panther tribe or any that worships the Panther god Bast. Bast would bestow the blessing. Not only that, he hates technology so he wouldn't wear the suit the begin with.
I hope with this Secret Wars multiverse convergence thing they just reboot all of the MCU. Then they can have a new T'Challa and all FF and X-men and Luke Cage and Daredevil and Iron Fist and all the characters that in the right places with relation to each other. What they have now is the hottest of messes. Most MCU fans don't know it is because they don't know the characters in the comics and how they are supposed to be positioned and why.
Good video one of your best ones
At 8:48 his name is pronounced "NAY mor" not "Na MOOR"!
I honestly think the Dora Milaje should have their own movie, hands down
Very well done 👍🏽
Speaking of good bathroom scenes- what about Yelena Belova coming back from the snap?
Disney trying to set up iron heart is what got in the way of the movie ( I did like her in it but it really didn’t feel necessary