Justin Jefferson + Simms QB Countdown #14-11 | Chris Simms Unbuttoned (FULL Ep. 622 | NFL on NBC
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- Chris (@CSimmsQB) and Ahmed (@ahmedNBC) hit the "Wild Cards" tier of the QB Countdown, with some passers who could get their teams back in the playoffs. But first, the guys address Justin Jefferson's new deal, and Simms tries an impersonation of Casey Kasem (or Case Keenum). #NBCSports #ChrisSimmsUnbuttoned #nflonnbc
(0:00) Summer is in the air, but Simms is still in the tape room.
(6:35) Justin Jefferson deal: What took so long?
(15:00) #14 Aaron Rodgers: "Can he play the way he wants to play?"
(26:45) #13 Jordan Love: "2nd half of the season, the light came on.
(43:25) #12 Kirk Cousins: "Below-average athleticism, but above average overall QB.”
(56:40) #11 Trevor Lawrence: "Next step is carrying his offense when sh*t gets ugly.”
(1:11:15) Playoff Party Crashers: We look at playoff odds for teams who missed the postseason last year
(1:14:35) What's My Grip? Chris explains why the Combine is measuring hands the wrong way.
(1:19:15) Homie questions: Why didn't Aidan O'Connell, Tyler Huntley, Tyrod Taylor, or Drake Maye make the Top 40?
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Justin Jefferson + Simms QB Countdown #14-11 | Chris Simms Unbuttoned (FULL Ep. 622 | NFL on NBC
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Chris, you should do an episode where you break down film with the pros and cons of these QB’s.
Yea I would enjoy some more film breakdown over each QB like how they talk about their throwing motion.
Yes anything without Ahmed, cuz he offers so knowledge or insight, just stats we don’t want and jokes that are never funny
Ahmed is a better cohost than what Colin Cowherd has....I'd take him over jmac any day.
RIP Larry Allen.😢
Thanks for coming to this page and adding that in. Has nothing to do with anything discussed on this podcast but thank you
Mike Williams may not be a "deep threat", but he IS a red zone target!
He's also a very good contested catch WR. A safety blanket when the coverage is good.
Listening to Chris say its starting to feel like summer 😂. Meanwhile in Florida, its 97...
102 in Tucson 😂
Trevor Lawrence? LMFAO
What’s funny
Exactly. He should be lower than Cousins, Love, and Rodgers based on resume so far and what he's looked like on the field.
Trevor has elite arm talent but his internal clock is screwed up under pressure..
I’m begging yall to change that default thumbnail pic of Simms
Woww Aiden O Connell in the top 10! How high can he go?!
Goff top 10. I like it as a Lion's fan. I am worried when Ben Johnson takes a head coaching job that he may take a step back. He is set up for success with a great o-line and skill players all over the place though.
Thank you for adding that you’re a lions fan. Would you like it as not a lions fan? but regardless, Campbell has his hands all over that offense. He comes from the Sean Payton, Parcells tree and played offense himself. He’s got it all under control and would even if the OC left
Cousins over Rodgers? Nah I don’t see it.
I love the Love is ahead of Rodgers !!!
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I cant believe jalen didnt make the top 40
As well as Dak Prescott 🙈
Lol
Oh Yeah Justin Jefferson is with the Minnesota Vikings.
“Tequila is an Upper.” lol what?!
Did you not know? Tequila is the only alcohol that’s an upper lol
Amazing list
Seriously, Chris, watch all the tape and the split second decision making. Tua's next level.
First!
I can't wait to see the order of the top 10.
Salute Chris. Much love.
predicted top 5:
1 Mahomes
2 Allen
3 Burrow
4 Jackson
5 Herbert
Might be jackson ahead of burrow after last year but agreed
If not, that's what it should be. I bet he has Lamar 2nd this year though.
@@nessletoo Nope
@@steveoshei1819 🫢
Stroud instead of herbert
Right? Right? Right?
The ACTIVE NFL players voted Kirk #6 QB he has always been a top 10 QB statistically except the 22 when he had the single greatest clutch year in NFL history and he has actually played the SAME as Burrow in the playoffs and regular season. You need to put Kirk right beside Joe Burrow wherever you rank Burrow.
If he played the same as Burrow in the post season then how has he not sniffed a championship game
@@cap2205 cause Kirks defense gives up 28 ppg ane gets 1 turnover while Burtows defense gives up 18 ppg and gets 13 turnovers
@@cap2205in 5 career playoff games his defense has accrued a grand total of 1 turnover. It’s really hard to win a game no matter how perfect you are when your defense allows points on literally every possession. Remember that the giants game in 22 where Minnesota defense literally gave Daniel Jones his contract for example.
Looking forward to seeing Love and GB this year. I’m the Bills fan in the family but my youngest is the Green Bay fan so we root for them. I really want to see the Lions do well so there is some conflicting feelings.
Fyi Chris, tequila is not an upper lol, it's actually a downer
No it’s not
@chrisdamore7946 Alcohol is a depressant, it slows "down" brain activity. It's definitely a downer.
Chris is golden, a true bro.
You’ve never been lit off tequila then
@@thebrickflairLol?
59:33 Chris simms this is yearly right so how is he better then Purdy last year Purdy at 17??? Lawrence maybe if he makes a huge leap might...might occupy some of Purdy stats and play the position somewhat close
Apparently to Chris if you got size and power your better then someone who actually plays the position well.
@@lukeluna3732you think Lawrence wouldn’t look like an mvp with shannahan and the 49ers roster? You think purdy is still an mvp candidate in Jacksonville? Be honest
@@GKA11111 this is how they play now, how they actually play the position now stats, smoothness of operation, accuracy, decision making etc. Not what ifs. Do I think mac Jones would have been nice in sf with what he did in college absolutely but because he wasn't amd he played else where amd not as well then you can't place him above Purdy who's actually doing .... be honest and real. Shit I wouldn't out amd aging arod behind him either. NO who do you want on your team Trevor or Aaron to move forward with you go youth but ranking now arod will easily be better then Lawrence if he stays healthy health would be the only reason. Cousins as well is better then Lawrence he occupies some of the most elite all time stats and operates very good and he's been on bad teams too but still puts up numbers and finds a way
I agree, Trevor is too high but Purdy is about right. McCaffery carries that team offensively. I think if Purdy didn’t have him for quick check downs and he runs 60 yards he wouldn’t have near the stats he has or wins. You put anyone on the top 10 list if the QBs left. They are winning the Super Bowl on that 49ers team. They are that good. Not saying Purdy won’t break top 10, he’s just not there yet.
@@Zangyaks people act like any qb can do it, they can't all the players had career years and were elevated by purdys play, accuracy, throwing guys open, reading defenses etc. Were talking about playing the position and not just anyone can do what he's doing. Or others would do it to. Yeah he's got pieces to work with but he uses them well amd on time does he not. He's higher then 17 you don't have an mvp season and be at 17. 7-11 range I'd say, bit if he keeps playing this same way then there isn't many in the league as consistent with how he operates the position.
You should try to project your top 40 more for what you think is going to happen next year
You talk a lot for a 12 TD 18 Int career qb 😂😂😂
57:25 "ASSlethicism" I think the whole legs and a $ s thing has a new term
FYI the Diggs situation was different. He was let go because he complained on social media until he was let go. Jets on the other hand was strictly a money situation so he was an easy decision to keep
Glad he still has Herbert in his top 10. I’ve seen so much disrespect recently
Chris is the greatest.
Question, Would you rank Rodgers ahead of Kirk Cousins if you had confidence that he would run the play the way you want him to? (I.E. Being more patient with the play in order to make more throws downfield). Side note: I wish the summary on TH-cam would include some of the plays looked at so that we can re-watch the plays ourselves (like when you talked about Trevor Lawrence's throwing motion going haywire). Love the chemistry you guys have built, can't wait to see the rest of the list!(more for the breakdowns than the actual number rankings).
Love the respect to Kirk!!!!
This man gave Giants a shot but not Washington. Him and Florio hate Washington 😂
Tell me who's more accurate than Tua? Nobody!
Rodgers gets WAYYY too much hate for his last szn in GB, he was playing with a broken thumb for 2/3rds of the season and he was throwing to nobody, it was Lazard, rookie Doubs and rookie Christian Watson(hurt half the year). GB reloaded in the draft last year with Reed, Wicks, Musgrave, kraft, give Rodgers that group along with 2nd year Watson and doubs and it doesn’t look like it did at the end in GB.
No he doesn't. Before he even hurt his hand he was playing like shit. He was turning down open recievers because he didnt trust them. He was hurting the offense because he either wanted a 3 yard completion or a fade down the sideline. He refused to throw in the middle of the field. The packers would have been a better team if they put love in when rodgers got hurt
@@StatsLie14 mr. Film watcher over here! Bro, I’ve watched the games… his receiving options were garbage that year, sure he didn’t play great but if u read the rest of my post, i said give him GB’s weapons from last year and it doesn’t look as bad as it did!
Maybe... Just maybe because they made him wait a couple years to get a contract maybe he doesn't give a damn. They made him wait for no reason at all he's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL and they just made him wait just because they felt like it. I'm not mad at him. This one sided way of looking at things is really messed up.
I have a ton of respect for Chris’ opinion and I watch this show every year…but I literally can’t fathom Trevor over Love. Love has ALREADY played at a higher level than Trevor ever has. And it’s not even particularly close. Love should be 11.
Imaginary rankings mean nothing. Time will tell. Love still only played 1 season. Now he's on film for teams to dissect.
I would drop Kirk to 15, Trevor to 14, and Goff to 13. Probably Hurts to 12. Dak to 11. I would put Love and Rodgers above all of them, although they are risky for two different reasons.
With Odell and the Washington bros and Smith and the best backfield... Tua's gonna throw for 7 not six, but 7,000 yards.
Chris said "assleticism"
I reckon Love might/will end up higher than Lawrence at the end of the year
I say this every time I get a chance. I know one day somebody will steal this take and act like they thought of it themselves but I truly believe that Tom Brady and Kirk Cousins careers would’ve been very similar if Tom wouldn’t have signed team friendly contracts and got the best deal available.
But in Kirk’s defense, starting his career as a back up to RG3 in Washington is a far cry from Brady backing up Bledsoe in New England.
The situations are completely opposite but the talent of the players is extremely comparable.
Kirk has been the BEST QB the LAST 4 YEARS in Deep Pass Accuracy do not underestimate Kirk's accurate deep passing. He has the same athletic ability as Burrow they run for the same yardage average in their careers. Kirk has very good arm strength I don't know why Simms is saying this Kirk has always had a very strong arm.
yeah JJ and Pat would surpass
@1:05:38 🤔 really?
Yeah speaking of the Chris / Phil episode, is that still gonna be uploaded or are we at a point where the intern has swept it under the rug?
Tua puts the ball away from defenders and protects his😂guys
You've got to be shitting me with this Chris Simms. Your press credentials should be revoked with this ranking.
Florio and Simms are idiots believing rumors that Minnesota would move up for a WR. There 1st pick was always QB. GM Kwesi & KOC always said that. Moving up for a WR (Neighbors) thinking there going to get another Jefferson. That would be a big gamble.SMH. They have the best WR in the game. They were only wanting to move up for a QB thats it.
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jordan love did more in half a season than trevor lawrence or kirk has done in their careers.
Dak gotta be top 6
If JJ McCarthy busts THEY MADE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE and they will ALL BE FIRED>>> 80 Per Cent of 1st Round QBs DRAFT!
I love your podcast. You're bright as they come, but just give Tua the love , he's trying to get paid. Tua's the quick decision maker and most accurate in the league. My God, Patty and Josh could not drop a deep ball in the ocean... . get real Christopher!
Josh and Patty are like 20-15% on😂 deep balls . If not for drops Tua's like 85% on passes over 39 yards.
cousins, goff, stafford ahead of love is foolish. u dont even believe it urself chris
HE DID NOT HAVE A BAD GAME AGAINST THE CHIEFS HIS RECEIVER DROPPED THE BALL TO TIE THE GAME ON AN EASY CATCH this is terrible terrible analysis.
“He played his best versus the best competition”. This is what separates him and Tua. Tua plays like absolute trash against the best competition. So any TuAnon can refer to the above statement when they wonder why Love is ranked higher than Tua. I’d rather have Love in the Dolphins
Great Draft King add at 1:14:00 great job👍
The Cowboys are the most fucked when it comes to contracts this offseason. So they are already paying the CB Diggs near top of market money and Lamb is going to want to get paid very close to where Jefferson is and they have have to get a contract worked out with Dak. And Parsons wants to be paid right now not next season. So they have 3 near top of market for Dak and Lamb and top of market for Parsons. He is going to expect to jump Nick Bosa. The Bengals aren’t as screwed as the Cowboys are. They can pay Burrow and Chase and that’s why they aren’t going to be able to keep Tee past this year.
Nobody's watching this after he put Purdy at 17. What a joke
Lead the NFL in passing without a TE or WR 3, but Tua sux
as a packers fan, this hurts my feelings a bit. but... probably reasonable
12 hurts your feelings?? Wow
*13
@@narddog2151 if you follow the packer media, love is already the GOAT. thats why 13 hurts...
Simms calls Jalen Hurts the most overrated QB in the league.. puts him in his top 10.
Simms got scared of the twitter mob. Tell us what would happen to Jalen Hurts if he was patting the ball for 5s behind 49ers' OL.
He’s overrated but still top 10. Dual threat QBs naturally are going to be high on the list who know how to throw out of the pocket.
This guy makes no sense larry Fitzgerald only lead the league in touchdowns twice thats it with 12 and 13 mike has 5 seasons with 12 or more touchdowns Larry Fitzgerald only has 2
Trevor Lawrence that high above these guys is retarded
If Rodgers stays healthy he crushes Jordan Love
Love's first year he gave us the best playoff QB play in 8 seasons. Get a clue.
Tua's dropping dimes all day long. ... Seriously do the work and tell me where Tua's inaccurate ?
Why all the swallowed burping? Why not eat after the pod?
Bold take Patrick Mahomes will be number 1
Not a bold take just an obvious one
@@MildsandThatYacSarcasm bro
Let Tua get paid and give him😂 his due. Tua's the most accurate baller in the history of the game. . Seriously do your homework and compare Tua's accuracy to anyone!. I mean to the millimeter like let's get diggy with it.
Love you, not a hater. You're podcast is the most informative on the air. You got all the game😂.
So😂analize Tua's throws last year and tell the world where he's off? Challenge.
So look at Tua's 890 plus throw last year and grade his accuracy to the mm!
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Interesting. It really seems like Simms doesn't rate the Shanahan tree QBs highly. It's understandable due to their playcallers but feels like he underrates them knowing and doing well in a complex system. I would personally have Love and Purdy in my top 10
purdy no, love actually has a great case
@jameshoops10 Purdy came in as a 7th rounder and immediately took over the Shanahan offense. Then coming off an injury he had an all pro season. The talent around him is massively helpful but he deserves credit for being the best Shanahan QB cus we've seen Jimmy G struggle at times with the offense.
@@AbdiqalisMohamud010 that’s not much to say if you’re using the best since jimmy g, honestly he is better than jimmy g could ever be but ultimately he’s lack of ability to hit big throws and there is a lot of film showing he misses on that badly, he can’t overcome things to carry an offense and that showed in the cleveland game at its worst
I love y'all, but this list is horseshit. Simms, you put QBs height & arm strength up way too high. If size was so important Ryan Leaf & JaMarcus Russell would have been better than Joe Montana, Drew Brees, Russell Wilson & Steve Young. It's a travesty to have Jordan Love over Brock Purdy on just half a good season while Purdy has done better than most in his first 2 seasons. And if it's the system, why didn't Jimmy Garoppolo & Trey Lance do better with all that talent? Also, Jimmy FG didn't lead us to a Superbowl when all he did was hand the ball off for 2 playoff games. Brock Purdy actually made us the #1 offense & lead us to the Superbowl when our defense wasn't as good as Garoppolo had. You're just plain wrong.
Feel like Love should be higher on this list. Top 10 for sure.
They best bills miami and k.c with the worst qb in football last year. Only reason kc won the refs actually cheated for mahomes when he threw a 4th quarter Int. If rogers is healthy they win the division and go to the afc championship game. Book it
This seems a little over the top to have Love or Cousins above Rodgers.
Hey Chris how the fuck do you not have Jake Browning in your top 40?!?!you have some bums in there from 38-40. Jarret Stidham? Are you kidding me? He had played like 2 games before! Brewing went 4-3 with the hardest schedule in the fucking NFL last year. The Bengals played 11 playoff teams and 14 teams than finished at least 9-8. So Brownjng goes 4-3. Vs a historically hard schedule, completes over 70 % of his passes with 1936 yards, 8 YPA, 12 tds + 3 rushing tds, 7 interceptions, 98.4 passer rating and 0 lost fumbles. Jake Browning proved last year than on about 12-14 of the teams in this league he would be a starter.
Worst deep Ball ever...Josh and Maholm.....
if u watch the playoff game packers vs cowboys, u know which qb is the best.... cant believe he still has dak prescott so high again... years ago, simms had a conversation with prescott. dak had some issues with the questions. looks like simms want to make it up to him so that he wont be offended again!!!
Facts!
If you watch the game against the raiders, garappolo was better. Therefore garappolo is better right?
Yea simms is terrified of Dak after that interview
@@Frontyardfootball190your reaching. No one thinks jimmy is good try again bud.
@@kanecunningham7779 you're right my bad, I must've been thinking of the week that Bryce Young outplayed Jordan Love...is he better?
It’s so nice watching this show without the crybaby narcissist Florio ahhh
Can’t wait to see where simms puts Dak. It’s gonna be so embarrassing
8-10, how is that embarrassing
@@GKA11111 put on Aaron , love , or Lawerence on the cowboys in the past 8 years. Guarantee they don’t go 2-5 in the playoffs
@@kanecunningham7779 you think 40 year old Aaron Rodgers is still better than Dak? Lawrence might be better but hell who knows. Jordan Love has 1 good season, after this one yeah he will probably pass Dak
Why does Chris even do this yearly if he puts Purdy at 17, list and him lost credibility after the mvp season Purdy had, 17 is a clicks > over reputation and credibility
How many times are you going to post the same thing?
Why do 49ers fans consistently fail to realize that good numbers do not an elite QB make?
@@kchandaman3012 the numbers only back up what your eyes should tell you. You don't elevate every player to career years if you have bad eyes bad processing accuracy timing and anticipation. Trust me I know where his limitations are and they haven't proven to be the position in general.
@@jamesspanglet6702 when the arguments presents itself in a new obvious way.
@@lukeluna3732 I never said they were bad; if anything, his ability to process the field is very good, and he throws with fantastic anticipation (the weapons and scheme do help, but it shouldn't take away from his abilities). But he is more limited physically, and it causes plays like choppy throwing motion on a rollout where the pass gets deflected for a pick. And he struggles pretty badly in the elements.
You don't have to dislike Purdy to think that his fans are overhyping him. He's more than a system QB, 100%. But his ability to affect the game, while good, is not elite or even necessarily top 10.
Check this out. The 2 highest paid players in NFL history are both from LSU. And after Chase gets paid the top 3 highest paid players in NFL history will be from LSU.
God Ahmed doesn’t know anything. Sometimes he is straight talking out of his ass and pretending he knows something and Simms rightfully corrects him. Ahmed is worthless on this show seriously he offers nothing good and just wastes time with stupid unfunny jokes and unsolicited stats
Ahmed pretends and acts like he knows what he’s talking about and is informed with all this stuff when all he does for real is just read basic stats off his laptop. And we all know that Simms doesn’t give a shit about stats. Tell me: how often does Simms ever bring up stats?? NEVER. Cuz the tape tells you everything. Stats are useless without context
I swear sometimes Ahmed interrupts Simms, kills the flow of the convo, just to say something so stupid and unnecessary just trying to be funny. And he fails. Every time.
But I still like him somehow 🤷♂️
It's his job to keep the show moving. Pete is in his ear calling the shots. No place for this kind of talk. Get out of here.
Its all love tho.
Chris simms you'd like to think he cares about his reputation as a qb and analyst more then "CLICKS" but Purdy at 17 is clueless or fake. Both bad for him
Purdy is good and has a lot of potential to be better but he's not a world beater yet, don't fanboy too much
@@cap2205 I'm not being a fan boy if anything people are being haters if anything. You can look at his numbers stats, from average depth of target, accuracy, deep passing, qbr, he doesn't have to be a world beater he knows how to play the position no one is saying hes top 3- top 5 that's a world beater. Lawrence isn't a world beater either and he hasn't played the position smoothly either hasn't proven to make good decisions whether in the short game or deep passing game.
@lukeluna3732 I don't care about stats. That's like looking at one side of a pyramid and calling it a triangle. He's a smart kid with talent and a lot of potential, and I'll be interested to see how he progresses with a healthy off-season, but his play is generally pedestrian. He enjoys a lot of benefit from his YAC monster receiving core and a generational RB talent, he's not winning these games on purely his own merit
@@cap2205 I'm not talking about just stats, as you should have grasped from my reply. ... I'd hope. Does he appear to be struggling at all out there..not really, does he operate a high level obviously proven so far and these are yearly rankings and what he did and how he did it wasn't a 17th type player. But man if he was 2 inches taller and could throw a bit further, or he didn't operate in the window he has and wasn't efficient and had to make plays more after plays broke down because he couldn't process in time then he'd get a higher vote (apparently). What's he's doing on his own Merrit is not getting overwhelmed playing within himself, throwing on time, throwing guys open, buying time amd scrambling was he needs to not because he has to. He plays the position at a high level period only takes 1 eye to see that. ......THEN the stats back it up. Ba if not for Pickens catching those huge passes where he took them to the house ba would have the highest average depth of target of 17 yards and on 75 catches had 1400 yards any other wr had catch the ball many more times to get that number, and ba isn't a catch and yac guy he catches down the field when he receives the ball. I dont think you're qualified to truly know. You have a blanket narrative you don't and haven't watched all the games and if you had youd be able to see it which is fine. The stats only back it up what your eyes should already be telling you. He may not be throwing a 60 yard bomb every game but he throws deep and has more success down field then almost every qb in the league last year as well. Doesn't matter who's catching the passes he's doing it.
@@lukeluna3732is big mad about Purdy’s ranking 😂😂😂
AHMED WERE NOT HERE FOR STATS. Anyone can look those stats up. What we’re here for is Simms’s unique knowledge and film analysis. So zip it and let the expert talk. We don’t want to hear from you. It sucks we already have to suffer your presence
Tua puts the ball away from defenders and protects his😂guys