Question, have you tried Precision Intensify for your Mesa build? That's what I'm personally testing right now and it makes her Regulators hit 4.34x damage without being at 243% base str and that lets me run at least 90% Efficiency rather than 45% so the drain isn't really too bad. The other 3 abilities barely get any benefits from having that much str that's why I opted for Precision Intensify to buff Regulators.
Why not add Mark of the best for 20 seconds of 120% extra crit which would give you those juicy constant red crits when you’re building melee crescendo with floor finishers? Try it if you haven’t it’s so good😫
I'm a nooblet myself and I don't get the hate over these "not noob friendly" builds, like bruh this game is 10 years old, people exist with infinite resources to make over the top stuff like this, let them have fun
@The_24th_Sage I mean I've been watching him since I first started playing...only just reaching the point where I can make some of the builds now. Way better understanding of how modding etc works now as a result....there's something to be taken from these vids at any level I think.
i think they are just lazy lol tf the i got almost all the goods arcanes max because of gargocyles event. even in real life if you are lazy as f then life will reward you with laziness and its your problem just cry but for people who makes things happen because they can do it eventually its a rewarding thing lol
One more thing you can add to get constant reds even after replacing the last orange shard with a green one and that is Mark of the Beast mod for glaives (upon 6 melee kills your secondary gets 120% crit and status) and yes this applies to her regulators, so group enemies for floor finishers with vazarin and melee crescendo and get the 6 melee kills in the process for the extra crit. 😫 Nobody uses it but I want u guys to enjoy it too love you guys
It' all good and all, but since the buff has a duration, you need to consider that after charging melee crescendo, you never kill with tour melee again with this build😅
@@elpsycongroo2030 I personally one shot enemies with floor finishers with my build so the time it takes to reproc Mark of the beast is negligable to my gameplay. But to each his own
Endgame and Expensive aren’t always the same thing. I’m by all means a veteran player, but 2k platinum is just not worth spending for me. I really appreciate the content and full disclosure about the cost. I did watch the whole video because KMF is awesome.
Guys, for those who are having difficulty using this build because of the life you lose due to the CD mod, first thing, the third WF ability reduces the life you lose due to the CD, secondly, use an arcane for the tenno called magus elevate.
For us peasants, You can get the 240 from outburst relatively easy and consistently off furax w an IC riven, have the furax modded for max IC and 30+ sec combo timer. Adarza with swipe and tandem bond will finish out the rest of the stack during the 30sec of outburst. With swipe it will give you 24 combo per pet attack instead of 6.
This build is the only build that I’ve seen from you that I would say just no too expensive for sum that may be nerfed and easier ways to do this exact same thing
You'll probably have hard times with stacking up your topaz shards if mobs are not crowding you and/or when you're not playing solo. Also your epitaph has 0.1 second heavy attack timer, so it may be a bit frustrating to try to prime your targets with fire and finish them in one go (especially if you have a bit of lag). So it is a strong and fun build for some rare conditions' missions, and almost not playable to the full potential most of the times.
Bro, I love your builds, for real. Mesa Prime - the reason why I installed this game and I want to say a big thank you. You're a truly god of this game. Can you help us with Titania Prime? I tried to build her the same way, but Dex Pixia's crit chance is 10% versus 25% of Mesa's Regulators... But they have 25% status chance. Any ideas?
Amazing video, now it’s time for me to grind as if I’m working a 9 to 5 job in order to get the mods and endo required for this. I don’t even want to think about the arcanes..
In fact, what you need is : - Secondary outburst (stalker SP) - Regulator modded with heat and high fire rate - Furax + Rauta to build up combo (Furax because it has Amalgam mod that add fire rates) - Topaz archon shards And if you want to still have this 20% fire rate increase from Afentis, just use the grimoire in your secondary with the right page equipped All others things such has Avenger and Combat discipline are not needed for simple content such has under level 200 SP enemies, you can replace it with more power or survivability 😁
For the new guys you do not need to invest all this for mesa to do dmg. Status is just fine and a hell of a lot cheaper to do not to mention mesa can kill pretty much anything regardless of the build. This build is specifically to see red numbers. Orange and yellow still kill things as well
Personally I think that unless you are doing like level cap, cant you drop accelerated isotope, make you more likely to apply heat with regulators avoiding all the priming with epitaph? maybe add galvanized shot instead of A.isotope ? like, A. isotope gives you fire rate but arent radiation procs kinda bad?
The multiplier (base 1.5 before positive strength ) also applies twice in the calc that is especially why you don’t slot any base dmg mods :), another reason fire rate mods are stronger is if using velocity since velocity is actually multiplicative hehe
After you have the combo maxed to 12 make sure to have your secondary weapon equipped and then hit 4. Whenever you take off the exalted weapon you should have that secondary back in hand re starting the 12 combo for exalted guns.
Here's a tip to make this alot cheaper. Don't use maxed melee crescendo, but level 0. You will need 6× as many finishers, but the potential buff is the same. The extra effort to make use of this may be worth the 2000 pl difference
here's a tip, what you ever you suggested has already been mentioned in the video with additional alternatives. but here's a tip for you, time stamps and paying attention.
@@KnightmareFramewhat was the point of saying that? hostility for what? It’s not that deep, ironically watching this after someone said on a video I watched how you make people feel stupid. Good on you man
He literally said to pay attention, it’s common sense? Maybe watch the video in its entirety before opening your mouth/ typing? Your question may just be answered.. the response can also not be seen as hostile just as you both think the initial comment wasn’t, works both ways. Enjoy your day
@m0keyzzstr8 The original comment most definitely wasn't hostile, and kmf most definitely was, can easily read both and see which one screams ego, I'll agree, full video should have been watched, but the response in that way was uncalled for, could have been as simple as a time stamp, have a nice day
I figured out you don’t even need vazarin as the focus school. You could use magus anomaly, then voiding to ragdoll them and ground finisher them. It takes some practice but saves you’re focus school for Madurai or unairu if needed
let's wait till those people come crying and complaining about it being too expensive as if they're being forced to invest in everything in this video and not watch any other beginners guide
Well this is more for players who have 4/5k hours in the game and can smash new content when it comes out. People still in the mid game can only do so much because they are still trying to level Simaris, syndicates, Fortuna, Cetus etc. I remember those days when I would get as much standing as possible for open worlds before starting to actually play the game. Now when you have everything you can do what you like 🙂
I've not played for a LONG time, like, 6 years. I saw your Tierlist 2024 and top 5 worse frames and Inaros was dunked so hard and I laughed harder. I played Inaros back in the day just becouse "haha I'm Mummy haha" but I get it, he was bad back then and is worse now. I like the undead, Nekros, Inaros and now this Revenet guy, I will farm him. GG WP. Volt Best Frame ever, begginer and GOES FAST. A friend (and you) talked about Gauss to me, Faster! FASTER! I'M SPEED!
The big thing is alot of missions have multiple factions types now so modding for 1 specific faction can cause a dps drop towards the secondary factions. If you're just going up against 1 specific enemy type and going for a long time, bane is still the obvious choice.
I went from 5 tau crimson shards to 3 tau topaz + 2 tau crimson shards. I feel like I hit more red/orange crits without the Topaz. Even when I max the proc at 224% Is it just me orrrr?
Alright, so there's a way to make this significantly cheaper. Drop melee crescendo, and replace Wyrm prime with a Panzer Vulpaphyla. Panzer Vulpaphyla can hit the same shield threshold wyrm prime can, but also can make excellent use of Tandem Bond to build up combo (Swipe + Viral Quills allows panzers to build up INSANE amounts of combo in a short period, especially given that AFBC is increasing your combo duration anyway) if you have the mod space, you could even slot in Vicious Bond so that you can even get armor strip. You would have to forgo Panzer Devolution and martyr symbiosis to fit everything, but you wouldn't want those anyway since your Panzer won't be able to armor strip/build combo when it's dead. If you have a fully crossbred vulpaphyla (Breed together all the mutagens/antigens) you can even make this build fit without putting any forma into the panzer
Genuine bot behaviour. Go watch any of his other videos for it. And in case, you're too lazy to do that, you can clearly see in the gameplay, that it procs cold, corrosive, heat, blast and viral. Weapon has innate cold and blast procs, viral obviously comes from nourish. Leaves corrosive and heat (confirmed, when he hovers over it). Then just use any basic primer build with multishot, status chance and fire rate. You're welcome. Next time use your brain.
@@zer0her048 "to understand what is going on in this video you have to go look through others videos so if you're lucky you'll find out eventually". Man, go touch grass.
I would pay 3k plat more instead of having to fuse 10 tau forged for one frame. I really hope they change the drop table on netracell missions. If you unlucky you can wait a year to do this build. No way i sacrifice my only red taus i have. Would have been nice if you, knightmareframe, made a build with normal orange shards.
@@Harry-lc1nz Why is that? I ran some Steel Path tests and time to kill seems better with AA but after 30 mins seems like the multishot helps with applying heat stacks to tougher targets. AA struggling with tanky enemies
I did some approximate calculations for lethal torrent and anemic agility. LT increases DPS by 18.2%. AA increases DPS by 11.3%. This alone means LT is better. But, I only did the calculations for multishot increase for LT and fire rate increase for AA (if you do calculations, arcane velocity multiplies modded fire rate, it does not add to it). If you were to do more accurate calculations by trying to find the total number of shots per second (using both multishot and fire rate) you'd find LT has an even higher DPS increase over AA. I'm too lazy to do that. But you are right, LT is just straight better than AA. It's wild the video creator slotted in AA over LT.
It's cool to see how far a build can go, but it's definitely a bit overkill lol. I never really felt like Mesa needs too much special to do good damage. I've accidentally ran missions with messed up builds (wrong elements/ missing mods) and sometimes didn't notice until another day. I actually had a decaying dragon key for like a week after Plague Star, until someone directed asked me in a DM "Why are you running a dragon key" thinking I had some kind of special build after a Circuit run lol.
@@lookalike4805 The last Plague Star (in 2023) was after the shield gate rework. I clearly remember because everyone thought it was hilarious that I absolutely HAD to use the Decaying Key just to be able to die in the "Steel Path" Cetus caves (with my zero defense, one forma Volt) because the shield recharge/ gate was not letting me die even after drawing aggro. Good times lol
I love these crazy builds. Gives me something to grind for and after i got everything needet for those builds i have a lot of fun using them unless they already got nerfed. So thank you @NightmareFrame for keeping me playing with my friends ❤
@@arushahuja135 might be a shadow nerf but basically regulator kills can no longer stack gun and blade evolution and it's now fixed that only primary weapons can
Is this build still good if I don’t use wyrm? I haven’t un equipped my smeeta kavat in probably like 7 years no joke. I don’t wanna use anything else lol Also if I don’t use wyrm would it be worth it to make up the fire rate lose by replacing accelerated isotope with lethal torrent?
@marcusvinicius917 the secondary crit chance being multiplicative was not intended, the damage increase is insanely lower now and they're a horrible choice. Might as well use red shards
Yes, you just won't have the 20 initial combo from the start as the wraith variants unique trait, is 20 initial combo, but the furax wraith can be gotten through the dog days event going on right now
I have a question,instead of umbral intensify,should I put precision intensify (90% strengh on 4th ability) or the umbral is just better for this build??
Since this build uses nourish umbral is better. But if you used a subsume that doesn't increase damage (ivara quiver for example), precision intensify will be better.
I would argue that swapping out creeping bullseye for a primed faction mod will be more overall DPS than hitting more red crits. I can't test this tho because I'm out of archon shards :^) By no means necessary tho.
Since you're using a heat primer and regulators status chance is poopy, could you remove heated charge in favor of fire rate? Or is heated charge proc chance and damage worth it?
What mod would you replace if you were to include Faction Mods? Is Accelerated Isotope worth it considering you can have Radiation for Alloy as well as any other element?
how does this compare to a setup with 2 green shards going for full armor strips on regulators? there's no way i can afford 5 tauforged topaz shards lmao
He says in the video somewhere in the middle that it's not worth it. Even regular orange shards are better than wasting them in green. The reason is that it takes too long for you to proc 14 corrosive stacks then kill the enemies. It's faster to just focus on killing the enemies. Which is also why he runs so much elemental on the regulators instead of running lethal torrent. Also the explanation is like 4:30 or something. You can afford it the shards. It will just take a couple weeks. You'll be playing the game anyway
In theory green shards could be good in like lvl 400+ or something but there are fr better ways to deal with armor, like having a frost aoe strip everyone for mesa. Its not a solo game after all.
@@satoutatsuhiro866 in all fairness, 1 tau green 4 orange build strips 98% of armor by the time you notice, and that let's you build just corrosive/heat. Then heat strips it to 1% while keeping corrosive damage boost. . . Worth testing (I liked it) You're also only missing out on 18.75% crit, you'll still be hitting reds if you're running avenger.
Just stack multishot+60/60 status mods... since you're a "newer player." But if you really want a good priming build, just ask for one in region chat, and someone will link a build.
@knightmareframe ive seen people suggesting precision intensify, mathematically is it better dps from nourish as umbral intensify buffs that over using prescision intensify? Also is glavinized shot better for higher lvl enemies over anemic agility?
if youre just worried about damage, precision intensify works great, but iirc her 3 scales off of strength as well so you wouldn't get as much survivability out of her kit. i generally avoid using precision intensify for that reason 😅 also, i havent had any issues with anemic agility at higher levels -- the increased fire rate offsets the damage lost to be an overall increase in dps.
Can it be done using negative combo duration+ rauta combo stacking(infinite x12) then switch to secondary to activate outburst etc? I mean ,do i really need crescendo?
1st no cus nexus doesnt work while in regulators 2 as he said mesa doesnt do well with status effects 3 same thing but only if ur going a lot longer in a mission and u arnt using a armor strip ability
Swap it back to Umbral. 2 and 3 scales off of str. So it's giving you more QoL. Damage difference on 4 is not significant at all, but you lose the QoL Umbral gives.
@@tamop imo thats plenty when you are talking 80 rounds a second and 3-4 multishot.. but eh it doesnt really matter that much.. still insane destruction for the enemy either way lmao
@@tamop 10% SC with 80 RPS means you get 8 procs on average every second. That loads up the damage from galvanized shot. And if you're sensical (the regulars build is complete trash), you stack 1 or 2 60-60 mods to get 24% or 30% SC with galvanized shot. This leads to an expected 19.2 or 24 procs per second. Don't be fooled by the 10% SC.
@@OsirusIrdia the question is: are you going to kill 1 enemy with this setup (so 10% SC is totally ok) or are you going to fight against a crowd? If it is about the second, there are better builds.
@@tamop for both scenarios, utilizing SC is superior to just raw damage. you can test it yourself taking mesa to level cap. she does better with increased SC.
Lmao when you said critical combo increases your crit, I was like, yeah Secondary Outburst. I've been looking into that cause I wanted to make a meme setup on a really disappointing weapon.
@@CrimsonWalter9092 its a 60% FR vs 90% FR with a bonus .6x damage (from multishot) vs a -15% all damage I consider it superior in all regards, the difference is if you had both on, be in a 1 to 1 its much better
It would buff her regulators for sure, but people that are using the two umbral mods combo will lose its usability since you'll have to swap the two intensifies. They'll have to also swap out the other umbral with something else unless they like using the health alone (or armor, I don't judge) for the extra tau resist. Plus you'll also lose out that strength on your nourish and shooting gallery damage buffs but if they're not too worried about these downsides then by all means, use precision intensify. Pretty damn good mod for buffing your 4th ability.
The problem that I found is that you have not enough energy when playing solo at the beginning of the mission, it’s hard to make it fully start, skill issues or there’s something I can do to improve “efficiency/energy” especially in “early game”?
I'm trying to compute if 5 regular topaz shard + creepin bull's eye + max secondary outburst + avenger + adarza buff wwould be even to reach perma red crits your reply would be greatly appreciated
when you have +100% damage increase, it means your damage is multiplied by 2. When it is 200%, you multiply by 3, and so on. +100% is double, 200 x3, 300 is x4
I'm pretty sure it does trigger topaz just not as well. The regulators have to proc heat status before the enemies die, which in some cases they die too quickly to be affected so it won't trigger it. But it will still work, just slowly
Watch 8:46, he talks about why trying to proc status with Mesa is a waste of time. If you slot heat instead of a better element like corrosive or toxin you just won’t do as much damage to enemies at the expense of sometimes building up the topaz shards. Much better to just run a heat primer
why does knightmare frame not use an attack mod on wyrm? I dont understand why he uses manifold bond then (unique statuses from sentinel weapons) for negate and guardian
@@Calaman228 you dont know what you are talking about. You use galvanized shot with mesa and pure toxin with archon continuity. What KMF said about hornet strike is true but galvy shot will easily double or triple your damage. You got impact, puncture, slash, viral(from nourish), toxin(which instantly procs unlike heat which has a 1 sec delay and double dips with faction mods), and corrosive to strip armor(you have 100+ fire rate and 4 multishot, so you shoot 400+ shots per second with 24% status. You will consistantly max your procs in about 3 seconds) that gives you 720% damage increase on peacemaker with 6 status effects and galvy shot. If you have a 5× multiplier on peace mkr, then that will give you 5 + 7,2 = 12.2×. Status is king for mesa at really high level and you can easily still achieve orange crits with 7.5 crit multiplier.
Anyone else having buggy issues with secondary outburst consuming combo? For some reason my secondary outburst will consume lower tiers of combo even tho it says its at max.
Yeah same happens sometimes, using magistar incarnon at 12x combos after 4 times activating the 4th skill the next sec outburst buff only at 200% cc sometimes lower. Minor issue i guess, you just need to swap back to your secondary weapon after holding your 12x combo melee.
Ceramic dagger incarn with corrupt charge and covert lethality, save yourself 1.5k and buy a ceramic riv for 500p roll it for 2 + 1 - with min 44+ initial on it boom 11x perm for 1500p less not good enough slap on a r0 and get 10 finishers for 12x
Not to bash knightmare frames builds....my only concern is kf lack of basic statistics...... Yes mesa has 10%sc... But its more theoretical then that. Lets take the basic 6060 galv shot of 30 percent. With basic statistics you would k that multiplying that by the multi shot of galv and leathal turret yeilds an additive 290. So 390 x 30 is 11700, 117sc per shot instance. Now you multiply that number by the fire rate of between 40 to 70 per second. So thats why dot builds work. Its the same calculations as the old warframe ui before they seperated ms and sc. Now the only difference is chance rather then garrentee.
I cant get it - am using Vastilok to gain combo with 3 hits or 4 true punishment but whenever i swap to my secondary with 12x combo on i still dont get the full buff of outburst (240%) i keep getting things like 100% - 160% etc, i rarely get the full 240% increase but again this happens only when i am in public missions. when am solo i just get the full 240% as it supposed to be. which i find really strange ??
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I thought de nerf the mesa build with the recent changes?
Question, have you tried Precision Intensify for your Mesa build? That's what I'm personally testing right now and it makes her Regulators hit 4.34x damage without being at 243% base str and that lets me run at least 90% Efficiency rather than 45% so the drain isn't really too bad. The other 3 abilities barely get any benefits from having that much str that's why I opted for Precision Intensify to buff Regulators.
@@lanoche nourish
Why not add Mark of the best for 20 seconds of 120% extra crit which would give you those juicy constant red crits when you’re building melee crescendo with floor finishers? Try it if you haven’t it’s so good😫
fyi its pronounced CreSHENdo
I'm a nooblet myself and I don't get the hate over these "not noob friendly" builds, like bruh this game is 10 years old, people exist with infinite resources to make over the top stuff like this, let them have fun
It also sets the precendent for what newer players would be able to achieve given the proper time and investment.
@@hq1082Only if you can't read
Exactly this channel simply isn't for new players and that's ok too
@The_24th_Sage I mean I've been watching him since I first started playing...only just reaching the point where I can make some of the builds now.
Way better understanding of how modding etc works now as a result....there's something to be taken from these vids at any level I think.
@@anarchyinc124i agree,i first eiscover this channel when i as mr 8 and now that im mr28,i can copy any of his build and it actually fun
You don't need crescendo if you're budgeting. Slap true punishment on any gun blade and you get a 12x in like 3-4 shots
yeah but then each time u want outburst back u need to build combo again
using this or ceramic completly negates that
Every time knightmareframe says "creskendo", an italian dies
a portuguese speaker as well
the funny thing is that he lives in Italy
the whole time i was wondering if he does it on purpose like secondary cucumber xD (he probably does)
pretty sure hes italian but i could be wrong @@Pawa7
Every build you showcase is always god tier
How many Mesa build per week do you want?
KMF: YES OMG YES
The people who play the game to not progress are not gonna like this one Mo
and that's my problem why?
@@KnightmareFrame its not lmfao, iam making a joke
@@KnightmareFrameno one said it was
i think they are just lazy lol tf the i got almost all the goods arcanes max because of gargocyles event. even in real life if you are lazy as f then life will reward you with laziness and its your problem just cry but for people who makes things happen because they can do it eventually its a rewarding thing lol
@@ajjames1960 its alot of people who feel like his vids are too late game, and for players who play late game, thats the point
glad you made this, made me hop straight back on WF to try this out
Godly player, God tier level of explanation, Interesting edits and cinematics, Godly builds
One more thing you can add to get constant reds even after replacing the last orange shard with a green one and that is Mark of the Beast mod for glaives (upon 6 melee kills your secondary gets 120% crit and status) and yes this applies to her regulators, so group enemies for floor finishers with vazarin and melee crescendo and get the 6 melee kills in the process for the extra crit. 😫 Nobody uses it but I want u guys to enjoy it too love you guys
will try thanks
It' all good and all, but since the buff has a duration, you need to consider that after charging melee crescendo, you never kill with tour melee again with this build😅
@@elpsycongroo2030 I personally one shot enemies with floor finishers with my build so the time it takes to reproc Mark of the beast is negligable to my gameplay. But to each his own
Endgame and Expensive aren’t always the same thing. I’m by all means a veteran player, but 2k platinum is just not worth spending for me. I really appreciate the content and full disclosure about the cost. I did watch the whole video because KMF is awesome.
Guys, for those who are having difficulty using this build because of the life you lose due to the CD mod, first thing, the third WF ability reduces the life you lose due to the CD, secondly, use an arcane for the tenno called magus elevate.
For us peasants, You can get the 240 from outburst relatively easy and consistently off furax w an IC riven, have the furax modded for max IC and 30+ sec combo timer. Adarza with swipe and tandem bond will finish out the rest of the stack during the 30sec of outburst. With swipe it will give you 24 combo per pet attack instead of 6.
Your comments section is hands down the most entertaining of the warframe content creators.
This build is the only build that I’ve seen from you that I would say just no too expensive for sum that may be nerfed and easier ways to do this exact same thing
What's your exact Epitaph build you use in this mesa build? Couldn't see the mods on the right.
You'll probably have hard times with stacking up your topaz shards if mobs are not crowding you and/or when you're not playing solo.
Also your epitaph has 0.1 second heavy attack timer, so it may be a bit frustrating to try to prime your targets with fire and finish them in one go (especially if you have a bit of lag).
So it is a strong and fun build for some rare conditions' missions, and almost not playable to the full potential most of the times.
Bro, I love your builds, for real. Mesa Prime - the reason why I installed this game and I want to say a big thank you. You're a truly god of this game.
Can you help us with Titania Prime? I tried to build her the same way, but Dex Pixia's crit chance is 10% versus 25% of Mesa's Regulators...
But they have 25% status chance.
Any ideas?
just build power strength on your titania and you're gucci with the dmg
i allready saw this build on the channel of MHBlacky . but its cool to have your POV and some things you change on the build , great video
Woah strange feeling when this was already my build. I've learned well over the years Sensei.
I'm sitting here waiting to See if my Excalibur Build is going to Get a Video Aswell. 👀
@@lookalike4805 it won't, your build is garbage.
Power comes in all walks and all stages of Warframe life. This just happens to be the upper Echelon on investment and returns.
One day, Mesa, one day.
Everything is super clear, thanks for this build !
I guess I'll have to replace my red tauforged...
Amazing video, now it’s time for me to grind as if I’m working a 9 to 5 job in order to get the mods and endo required for this. I don’t even want to think about the arcanes..
In fact, what you need is :
- Secondary outburst (stalker SP)
- Regulator modded with heat and high fire rate
- Furax + Rauta to build up combo (Furax because it has Amalgam mod that add fire rates)
- Topaz archon shards
And if you want to still have this 20% fire rate increase from Afentis, just use the grimoire in your secondary with the right page equipped
All others things such has Avenger and Combat discipline are not needed for simple content such has under level 200 SP enemies, you can replace it with more power or survivability 😁
good video man!!
For the new guys you do not need to invest all this for mesa to do dmg. Status is just fine and a hell of a lot cheaper to do not to mention mesa can kill pretty much anything regardless of the build. This build is specifically to see red numbers. Orange and yellow still kill things as well
Personally I think that unless you are doing like level cap, cant you drop accelerated isotope, make you more likely to apply heat with regulators avoiding all the priming with epitaph? maybe add galvanized shot instead of A.isotope ? like, A. isotope gives you fire rate but arent radiation procs kinda bad?
The multiplier (base 1.5 before positive strength ) also applies twice in the calc that is especially why you don’t slot any base dmg mods :), another reason fire rate mods are stronger is if using velocity since velocity is actually multiplicative hehe
Nice build :)
The platinum is nothing compared to the archon shards 🥶
I'm still in shock after the amount of archon shards used here and in Khora(5 tau violet)
I thought this was supposed to give permanent combo counter, but for some reason mine goes down during sim testing and I'm not sure why.
After you have the combo maxed to 12 make sure to have your secondary weapon equipped and then hit 4. Whenever you take off the exalted weapon you should have that secondary back in hand re starting the 12 combo for exalted guns.
isnt better to use precision intensify instead of umbra intensify? still get 95% dmg reduction but even more dmg for her 4th
you can if you want better energy economy, but high overall strength also buffs nourish and shooting gallery.
drinking game: take a shot everytime he says 'increase'
Here's a tip to make this alot cheaper. Don't use maxed melee crescendo, but level 0. You will need 6× as many finishers, but the potential buff is the same. The extra effort to make use of this may be worth the 2000 pl difference
here's a tip, what you ever you suggested has already been mentioned in the video with additional alternatives. but here's a tip for you, time stamps and paying attention.
@@KnightmareFramewhat was the point of saying that? hostility for what? It’s not that deep, ironically watching this after someone said on a video I watched how you make people feel stupid. Good on you man
@KnightmareFrame great way to make someone feel dumb smh, they didn't even come off as being a smart ass in their comment
He literally said to pay attention, it’s common sense? Maybe watch the video in its entirety before opening your mouth/ typing? Your question may just be answered.. the response can also not be seen as hostile just as you both think the initial comment wasn’t, works both ways.
Enjoy your day
@m0keyzzstr8 The original comment most definitely wasn't hostile, and kmf most definitely was, can easily read both and see which one screams ego, I'll agree, full video should have been watched, but the response in that way was uncalled for, could have been as simple as a time stamp, have a nice day
Mark of the Beast to put the cherry on top😫😫😫
I figured out you don’t even need vazarin as the focus school. You could use magus anomaly, then voiding to ragdoll them and ground finisher them. It takes some practice but saves you’re focus school for Madurai or unairu if needed
Your first mistake was expecting Players to put in an Effort. 👀
Good. We have plenty of noob builds. Show these kids what your builds can do when you have everything 😂
let's wait till those people come crying and complaining about it being too expensive as if they're being forced to invest in everything in this video and not watch any other beginners guide
Lets play
Well this is more for players who have 4/5k hours in the game and can smash new content when it comes out. People still in the mid game can only do so much because they are still trying to level Simaris, syndicates, Fortuna, Cetus etc. I remember those days when I would get as much standing as possible for open worlds before starting to actually play the game. Now when you have everything you can do what you like 🙂
After i build up my combo with ground finishers i still didnt get that intial combos i have crescendo equipped
Any build that has ARcane energize in it costs 1500..... soo.. You know most builds are almost 1500.
I've not played for a LONG time, like, 6 years. I saw your Tierlist 2024 and top 5 worse frames and Inaros was dunked so hard and I laughed harder. I played Inaros back in the day just becouse "haha I'm Mummy haha" but I get it, he was bad back then and is worse now. I like the undead, Nekros, Inaros and now this Revenet guy, I will farm him. GG WP. Volt Best Frame ever, begginer and GOES FAST. A friend (and you) talked about Gauss to me, Faster! FASTER! I'M SPEED!
for the title of the video, the channel pic checks out lmao
Why the heck do people not like to run the banes????? They’re literally free massive bonus damage.
Micromanaging in between every mission
The big thing is alot of missions have multiple factions types now so modding for 1 specific faction can cause a dps drop towards the secondary factions. If you're just going up against 1 specific enemy type and going for a long time, bane is still the obvious choice.
Lazy and braindead people.
you'd be surprised and it's so easy to just click a 1 button to swap.
they can swap weapons, frames and their builds but 1 mod? naaaah too much work.
@@KnightmareFrame lol
There's a new mod that only enchance ability strength of you 4th ability.
It's "Melee Cressendo" to sound like a wizard 😂
Precision intensify if you need one and have cross save i have spares 😊
Not worth it here
I went from 5 tau crimson shards to 3 tau topaz + 2 tau crimson shards.
I feel like I hit more red/orange crits without the Topaz. Even when I max the proc at 224%
Is it just me orrrr?
does secondary outburst still work on mesa?
yes
Titania can benefit from this build with some adjustment ?
Bro, I got this build, slightly more optimized but without the insane prep time for 0p
Can you share a hint on how to optimize like that to make it cheaper?
Alright, so there's a way to make this significantly cheaper. Drop melee crescendo, and replace Wyrm prime with a Panzer Vulpaphyla. Panzer Vulpaphyla can hit the same shield threshold wyrm prime can, but also can make excellent use of Tandem Bond to build up combo (Swipe + Viral Quills allows panzers to build up INSANE amounts of combo in a short period, especially given that AFBC is increasing your combo duration anyway) if you have the mod space, you could even slot in Vicious Bond so that you can even get armor strip. You would have to forgo Panzer Devolution and martyr symbiosis to fit everything, but you wouldn't want those anyway since your Panzer won't be able to armor strip/build combo when it's dead. If you have a fully crossbred vulpaphyla (Breed together all the mutagens/antigens) you can even make this build fit without putting any forma into the panzer
I can't see your full epitaph build it is covered up idk what mods u were using
Genuine bot behaviour. Go watch any of his other videos for it. And in case, you're too lazy to do that, you can clearly see in the gameplay, that it procs cold, corrosive, heat, blast and viral. Weapon has innate cold and blast procs, viral obviously comes from nourish. Leaves corrosive and heat (confirmed, when he hovers over it). Then just use any basic primer build with multishot, status chance and fire rate. You're welcome. Next time use your brain.
@@zer0her048 sheesh dude
@@zer0her048who hurt you
@@zer0her048 "to understand what is going on in this video you have to go look through others videos so if you're lucky you'll find out eventually".
Man, go touch grass.
@@zer0her048relax
I would pay 3k plat more instead of having to fuse 10 tau forged for one frame. I really hope they change the drop table on netracell missions. If you unlucky you can wait a year to do this build. No way i sacrifice my only red taus i have.
Would have been nice if you, knightmareframe, made a build with normal orange shards.
243% CC
@@fieryheaven7540 with the normal ones? Not bad tho
@@FluffyWing07 I mean, in case your build is the same as in video but you use normal orange shards instead of tauforged ones
Isn't Lethal Torrent better than Anemic Agility of Regulators?
no
@@Harry-lc1nz Why is that? I ran some Steel Path tests and time to kill seems better with AA but after 30 mins seems like the multishot helps with applying heat stacks to tougher targets. AA struggling with tanky enemies
it is. the guy just sucks at building.
I did some approximate calculations for lethal torrent and anemic agility.
LT increases DPS by 18.2%.
AA increases DPS by 11.3%.
This alone means LT is better. But, I only did the calculations for multishot increase for LT and fire rate increase for AA (if you do calculations, arcane velocity multiplies modded fire rate, it does not add to it).
If you were to do more accurate calculations by trying to find the total number of shots per second (using both multishot and fire rate) you'd find LT has an even higher DPS increase over AA. I'm too lazy to do that. But you are right, LT is just straight better than AA. It's wild the video creator slotted in AA over LT.
Will that melee crescendo work on Khora to keep the Red crits on her whip?
why use it if khora can just us naramon or dexterity or jsut hit things with whipclaw
its not worth it for that arcane slot
@@noahedenborg4221 cuz if you dont have anything to hit you will lost all combo stacks
@@tomrafos yeah that would be in mission u dont brong khora in u pepega
@@noahedenborg4221 You can play whatever you want thats why I asked if it would be good for her on those type of missions.
@@tomrafos yeah pretty much
For anyone not wanting to buy that arcane set, you can also use the vastilok and shoot 2-3 times to get 12x combo.
no actually
ceramic incarnon because remeber its not inital combo
@@noahedenborg4221 it does not matter how i get to the 12x combo the arcane still works
@@sasukesnake07 works yes
But is it good no
Each time u need to build up combo which is just horrible
@@noahedenborg4221 That's fine with me as it takes less than 2 seconds to get max combo with vastilok
4:01 No exilus adapter on your furax? Are you new to this game or something?
You don't need an exilus on every weapon......
@@muhammadumarkhan9475 was clearly a satirical comment
@twistedfate62
Didn't seem clear to me. 👀
Kre-shen-doe
It's cool to see how far a build can go, but it's definitely a bit overkill lol. I never really felt like Mesa needs too much special to do good damage.
I've accidentally ran missions with messed up builds (wrong elements/ missing mods) and sometimes didn't notice until another day.
I actually had a decaying dragon key for like a week after Plague Star, until someone directed asked me in a DM "Why are you running a dragon key" thinking I had some kind of special build after a Circuit run lol.
Except The Decaying Dragon Key was Still Good Back Then... Wasn't It ? 👀
@@lookalike4805 The last Plague Star (in 2023) was after the shield gate rework.
I clearly remember because everyone thought it was hilarious that I absolutely HAD to use the Decaying Key just to be able to die in the "Steel Path" Cetus caves (with my zero defense, one forma Volt) because the shield recharge/ gate was not letting me die even after drawing aggro. Good times lol
I love these crazy builds. Gives me something to grind for and after i got everything needet for those builds i have a lot of fun using them unless they already got nerfed. So thank you @NightmareFrame for keeping me playing with my friends ❤
Jade Shadows makes Ceramic dagger route not work anymore
Yeah it doesn't work anymore :/
Can u explain what changed?
I can't understand what changed from the patch notes
@@arushahuja135 might be a shadow nerf but basically regulator kills can no longer stack gun and blade evolution and it's now fixed that only primary weapons can
What if u get primary kills, then go for it?
@@XM8A1should work if you use primary to stack combo near start
Is this build still good if I don’t use wyrm? I haven’t un equipped my smeeta kavat in probably like 7 years no joke. I don’t wanna use anything else lol
Also if I don’t use wyrm would it be worth it to make up the fire rate lose by replacing accelerated isotope with lethal torrent?
topaz shards got changed, DO NOT use them
@@Xannyklause what u mean?
@marcusvinicius917 the secondary crit chance being multiplicative was not intended, the damage increase is insanely lower now and they're a horrible choice. Might as well use red shards
@@Xannyklause I see thank you
@@Xannyklause everything else in the video works just fine right? just the topaz shards thats useless now.
Can i use mk1 furax instead?
Yes, you just won't have the 20 initial combo from the start as the wraith variants unique trait, is 20 initial combo, but the furax wraith can be gotten through the dog days event going on right now
I would recommend grabbing wrists from dog days event you can spend the orbs you get from those dog days missions at nakak on Cetus
I have a question,instead of umbral intensify,should I put precision intensify (90% strengh on 4th ability) or the umbral is just better for this build??
Umbral Intensify is better for this build. Nourish scales off of Ability Strength. Precision Intensify wouldn't contribute towards that. :)
@@Siply ohhh ok ty bro
Since this build uses nourish umbral is better. But if you used a subsume that doesn't increase damage (ivara quiver for example), precision intensify will be better.
I would argue that swapping out creeping bullseye for a primed faction mod will be more overall DPS than hitting more red crits. I can't test this tho because I'm out of archon shards :^) By no means necessary tho.
Is still good in the current wf meta?
still works for me
Ty!
CRESHENDO NOT CRESKENDO
it's "crescendo" go back to school please.
I hope you're kidding else I'm gonna get concerned
@@KnightmareFrame go to google translate and it will sound the word out for you.
@@freeskilleur5173 yeah he is, he's known for saying words wrong and he plays on that haha
U doing what he wants my dude, it's a form of engagement farming
Since you're using a heat primer and regulators status chance is poopy, could you remove heated charge in favor of fire rate? Or is heated charge proc chance and damage worth it?
When you spend all that resources
To achieve the red crit dopamine
Was it worth it 🤔?!?!?
knightmareframe : NO & YES!!!
What mod would you replace if you were to include Faction Mods? Is Accelerated Isotope worth it considering you can have Radiation for Alloy as well as any other element?
Do i have to do this furax combo every 30 secs after secondary outburst ends ?
No, just switch to secondary weap
wny not use precision intensify for 90% 4th ability strength bonus
pay attention
@@KnightmareFrame I get it, Power strength is 3x more effective than base damage increases
@@bobalazsgaming watch again
@@KnightmareFrame explained 0 times
@@bobalazsgaming nourish
Thank you for putting your camera on the bottom right at 13:20 your head was always in the way of certain thing thank you
Как у него 46 скорострельности? на 8:19?Сделал также 31.08 скорострельности
how does this compare to a setup with 2 green shards going for full armor strips on regulators? there's no way i can afford 5 tauforged topaz shards lmao
He says in the video somewhere in the middle that it's not worth it.
Even regular orange shards are better than wasting them in green.
The reason is that it takes too long for you to proc 14 corrosive stacks then kill the enemies.
It's faster to just focus on killing the enemies. Which is also why he runs so much elemental on the regulators instead of running lethal torrent.
Also the explanation is like 4:30 or something.
You can afford it the shards. It will just take a couple weeks. You'll be playing the game anyway
In theory green shards could be good in like lvl 400+ or something but there are fr better ways to deal with armor, like having a frost aoe strip everyone for mesa. Its not a solo game after all.
@@satoutatsuhiro866 in all fairness, 1 tau green 4 orange build strips 98% of armor by the time you notice, and that let's you build just corrosive/heat. Then heat strips it to 1% while keeping corrosive damage boost. . .
Worth testing (I liked it)
You're also only missing out on 18.75% crit, you'll still be hitting reds if you're running avenger.
I am lucky to have one crescendo
Another idea would probably be negative combo duration and that shotgun from Duviri
Not as good but for copium people
I’m still kinda new to warframe but I was wondering what build do you use for your epitaph for priming that you usually use for your other frames?
Just stack multishot+60/60 status mods... since you're a "newer player." But if you really want a good priming build, just ask for one in region chat, and someone will link a build.
Avoid region chat. A lot of queers in there. Just go in Q&A chat
@@Elysian-III nah thats a pretty fair statement lol
@@Elysian-IIIoh you're in my alliance. hi
This second Mesa build video where it sounds like shots are being fired at another Warframe TH-camr.
Why not try energy nexus instead of equilibrium since you’re using nourish
because energy nexus does not work with channeled abilities such as regulators, and the energy gain compared to equilibrium is garbage.
Equilibrium is better. Simple.
@@fran-angel4853 did not know that. Nice
Just cut them off. You’re not staying in regulators forever and it takes a second to get all your energy back with nexus and nourish.
@@everybodysayplease Equilibrium is better.
@knightmareframe ive seen people suggesting precision intensify, mathematically is it better dps from nourish as umbral intensify buffs that over using prescision intensify?
Also is glavinized shot better for higher lvl enemies over anemic agility?
if youre just worried about damage, precision intensify works great, but iirc her 3 scales off of strength as well so you wouldn't get as much survivability out of her kit. i generally avoid using precision intensify for that reason 😅
also, i havent had any issues with anemic agility at higher levels -- the increased fire rate offsets the damage lost to be an overall increase in dps.
@@nothisiskassame, better use umbral intensify+blind rage
Can it be done using negative combo duration+ rauta combo stacking(infinite x12) then switch to secondary to activate outburst etc? I mean ,do i really need crescendo?
no, you will consume the stacks and you will need to rauta again
nice! i have a similar build.
couple thoughts. energy nexus? archon vitality for double heat sprocs? green shards for armor strip?
1st no cus nexus doesnt work while in regulators
2 as he said mesa doesnt do well with status effects
3 same thing but only if ur going a lot longer in a mission and u arnt using a armor strip ability
I think the double green shards would outscale this
@@skepticalsky8235 double green shards+archon vitality would definitely outscale this.
@@noahedenborg4221 makes sense, thanks!
The only thing, I swap Umbra into Precision Intensify
Swap it back to Umbral. 2 and 3 scales off of str. So it's giving you more QoL. Damage difference on 4 is not significant at all, but you lose the QoL Umbral gives.
I'm surprised galvanized shot isn't on the regulator build..
This build goes 10% status chance so there is no point in utilizing it.
@@tamop imo thats plenty when you are talking 80 rounds a second and 3-4 multishot.. but eh it doesnt really matter that much.. still insane destruction for the enemy either way lmao
@@tamop 10% SC with 80 RPS means you get 8 procs on average every second. That loads up the damage from galvanized shot. And if you're sensical (the regulars build is complete trash), you stack 1 or 2 60-60 mods to get 24% or 30% SC with galvanized shot. This leads to an expected 19.2 or 24 procs per second. Don't be fooled by the 10% SC.
@@OsirusIrdia the question is: are you going to kill 1 enemy with this setup (so 10% SC is totally ok) or are you going to fight against a crowd? If it is about the second, there are better builds.
@@tamop for both scenarios, utilizing SC is superior to just raw damage. you can test it yourself taking mesa to level cap. she does better with increased SC.
@KnightmareFrame, hi Do you think mesa + jade is a good idea?
I just need the secondary outburst and melee crescendo arcanes for this build but even without it’s massively strong.
Lmao when you said critical combo increases your crit, I was like, yeah Secondary Outburst. I've been looking into that cause I wanted to make a meme setup on a really disappointing weapon.
Lethal torrent > Anemic Agility if you have to choose between them
Better to gain a little and lose nothing, than gain a lot and lose a little
@@CrimsonWalter9092 its a 60% FR vs 90% FR with a bonus .6x damage (from multishot) vs a -15% all damage
I consider it superior in all regards, the difference is if you had both on, be in a 1 to 1 its much better
@@Riptide866 the -15% damage for anemic agility is additive with hornet strike so it basically means nothing, fire rate is more beneficial to mesa
would shatter shield be enough survivability?
What about using precision intesify? Should be it super good on mesa?
It would buff her regulators for sure, but people that are using the two umbral mods combo will lose its usability since you'll have to swap the two intensifies. They'll have to also swap out the other umbral with something else unless they like using the health alone (or armor, I don't judge) for the extra tau resist. Plus you'll also lose out that strength on your nourish and shooting gallery damage buffs but if they're not too worried about these downsides then by all means, use precision intensify. Pretty damn good mod for buffing your 4th ability.
The problem that I found is that you have not enough energy when playing solo at the beginning of the mission, it’s hard to make it fully start, skill issues or there’s something I can do to improve “efficiency/energy” especially in “early game”?
Can't you just drop an energy pizza?
skill issues use nourish and vazarin 2 and finisher u will get enough energy
build sentinels with synth and duplex
also you can use grimoire with 2 tome mods that give energy
Use Archon continuity/primed continuity and stream line, you wont need more than 150% strength if you have all that crit chance and damage.
what computation do you use to get the mutiplier? like how does 575 crit chance equate to 6.75x multiplier?
I'm trying to compute if 5 regular topaz shard + creepin bull's eye + max secondary outburst + avenger + adarza buff wwould be even to reach perma red crits your reply would be greatly appreciated
¨dude thats how procent works
take the % make it a decimal and plus 1
@@MrUnthinkable1I think it’s around 230 or 240 I could be wrong though
when you have +100% damage increase, it means your damage is multiplied by 2. When it is 200%, you multiply by 3, and so on. +100% is double, 200 x3, 300 is x4
575 (the buffs) is = to an increase 5.75x. Your normal damage is 1.00x so you add them to get 6.75
Just to make sure, topaz isnt triggered by primed heated charge alone?
I'm pretty sure it does trigger topaz just not as well. The regulators have to proc heat status before the enemies die, which in some cases they die too quickly to be affected so it won't trigger it. But it will still work, just slowly
Watch 8:46, he talks about why trying to proc status with Mesa is a waste of time. If you slot heat instead of a better element like corrosive or toxin you just won’t do as much damage to enemies at the expense of sometimes building up the topaz shards. Much better to just run a heat primer
Epitaph is not just for outburst, if you notice it was also modded for heat, so that right there is what will trigger the topaz buff.
why does knightmare frame not use an attack mod on wyrm? I dont understand why he uses manifold bond then (unique statuses from sentinel weapons) for negate and guardian
killing eximus with manifold bond on your sentinel makes it so it respawns faster
All im saying is 5:24 🤫
Double green shard is not good on her? 🤔
Green is better for endurance runs. This build is really flashy but at higher levels you should mod for status chance on peace maker for armor strip
Her ult has trash status(10% base) you will never prock 14 corrosive stacks on an enemy, i mean you will shoot one enemy like 30 seconds
@@brummyuk2151 its not consistant, i tried, those 30% feel like 2%
@@brummyuk2151 Also you need to realize that mesa shoots each enemy within her sight equally witch makes her status spread even worse
@@Calaman228 you dont know what you are talking about. You use galvanized shot with mesa and pure toxin with archon continuity. What KMF said about hornet strike is true but galvy shot will easily double or triple your damage. You got impact, puncture, slash, viral(from nourish), toxin(which instantly procs unlike heat which has a 1 sec delay and double dips with faction mods), and corrosive to strip armor(you have 100+ fire rate and 4 multishot, so you shoot 400+ shots per second with 24% status. You will consistantly max your procs in about 3 seconds) that gives you 720% damage increase on peacemaker with 6 status effects and galvy shot. If you have a 5× multiplier on peace mkr, then that will give you 5 + 7,2 = 12.2×. Status is king for mesa at really high level and you can easily still achieve orange crits with 7.5 crit multiplier.
The build is strong but it take long time to prep so in heat of combat I still prefer crescendo over furax
Anyone else having buggy issues with secondary outburst consuming combo? For some reason my secondary outburst will consume lower tiers of combo even tho it says its at max.
Yeah same happens sometimes, using magistar incarnon at 12x combos after 4 times activating the 4th skill the next sec outburst buff only at 200% cc sometimes lower. Minor issue i guess, you just need to swap back to your secondary weapon after holding your 12x combo melee.
Ceramic dagger incarn with corrupt charge and covert lethality, save yourself 1.5k and buy a ceramic riv for 500p roll it for 2 + 1 - with min 44+ initial on it boom 11x perm for 1500p less not good enough slap on a r0 and get 10 finishers for 12x
Thanks for the idea, I'm going for it
He literally says that in the video
@@Jen_meja not about riven getting x11 I got my riven for 350p with 44combo for this
Not to bash knightmare frames builds....my only concern is kf lack of basic statistics...... Yes mesa has 10%sc... But its more theoretical then that. Lets take the basic 6060 galv shot of 30 percent. With basic statistics you would k that multiplying that by the multi shot of galv and leathal turret yeilds an additive 290. So 390 x 30 is 11700, 117sc per shot instance. Now you multiply that number by the fire rate of between 40 to 70 per second. So thats why dot builds work. Its the same calculations as the old warframe ui before they seperated ms and sc. Now the only difference is chance rather then garrentee.
Also past lv 300 to 600 where armor strips needed the bonuses from radiation and corrosive will be wasted.
Also past lv 300 to 600 where armor strips needed the bonuses from radiation and corrosive will be wasted.
or you could just go raw damage and kill the enemy in 1 shot anyway
I cant get it - am using Vastilok to gain combo with 3 hits or 4 true punishment but whenever i swap to my secondary with 12x combo on i still dont get the full buff of outburst (240%) i keep getting things like 100% - 160% etc, i rarely get the full 240% increase but again this happens only when i am in public missions. when am solo i just get the full 240% as it supposed to be. which i find really strange ??
Man, I have not been lucky in the tau-forged shards department.
Has this been patched or changed?
I came here to see if it had as well. I came back to the game after a long break and my mesa is weak now
Nah it hasn’t. Furax + outburst + crescendo still slaps.
Nice video ty 😊