Analyzing Evil: Simon Phoenix And Dr. Raymond Cocteau From Demolition Man

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  • @TheVileEye
    @TheVileEye  ปีที่แล้ว +48

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    • @taravati181
      @taravati181 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you should do Syndrome from the Incredibles

    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You are the best man! Love your work! Do Ramsay Bolton!

    • @Largeamountsofbeans
      @Largeamountsofbeans ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We love what you do! Please do a video on the Tanin family from Back to the Future.

    • @jkeegan154
      @jkeegan154 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Since you covered a villain portrayed by Wesley Snipes, I think you should do an episode for Nino Brown from New Jack City.

    • @newbornviking9721
      @newbornviking9721 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please do a video on Randall Flagg From The dark tower and The stand

  • @TetsuShima
    @TetsuShima ปีที่แล้ว +907

    I love how Phoenix's reaction to jumping 36 years into the future is just making more evil plans. A true villain, ladies and gentlemen.

    • @ozymandiasramesses1773
      @ozymandiasramesses1773 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Simon stays plotting.

    • @breadmoth6443
      @breadmoth6443 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Is he (Phoenix) the true villain or is it Dr. Cocteau? I would say Cocteau because he is not only more subtle, he doesn't really offer you a choice - Phoenix does, all you have to do is to choose to stay out of his way and out of his territories. Cocteau on the other hand - is as stated in the movie - essentially a social engineer. Look at the outcome of the city of San Angelis. Yea it is peaceful, but are the people happy? Also yes the better comparison is that both Phoenix and Cocteau represent the two very opposite extremes - unbridled freedom, and extreme authoritarianism; but i digress as that is now delving into the political aspect - which by the way I would recommend the youtube video - "The Politics of Demolition Man."

    • @Bombadil-ez9ns
      @Bombadil-ez9ns ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @breadmoth6443 It's not a coincidence that Sandra Bullock's character is named Lineena Huxley. Likely everyone in the future is high on happy pills.

    • @bbrbbr-on2gd
      @bbrbbr-on2gd ปีที่แล้ว +30

      "Aw, after 36 years I'm free. It's time to conquer Earth!"

    • @breadmoth6443
      @breadmoth6443 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Bombadil-ez9ns yea there are articles even alluding to spiking water supplies with lithium - i realize i am heading into alex jones territory but then again, the parallels are apt. I would again recommend the youtube video called "The Politics of Demolition Man." -- I know this isn't a political video , but it hits on the same point - and imo reinforces the idea that Cocteau is the true villain. Cocteau thought he had everything under control - which again is the biggest mistake which was his ultimate downfall; and again Phoenix's comparison to Cocteau was true - "Thats who you remind me of. An evil Mr. Rogers.."

  • @_The_Archive_
    @_The_Archive_ ปีที่แล้ว +652

    Fun Fact: Wesley Snipes hated his blond dye job, and shaved his head as soon as filming was complete. After this movie's release, professional NBA player Dennis Rodman began dying his hair different colors, a look that was inspired by Simon Phoenix.

    • @dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263
      @dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Well, I hate it, too, bc it's hideous. Looks better on Rodman.

    • @necrosadotor
      @necrosadotor ปีที่แล้ว +22

      i think its cool, maybe a bit tacky

    • @LoneWolf_Cub_Ogami_Itto
      @LoneWolf_Cub_Ogami_Itto ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Its so early mid 90s, it's great. Let's look at his outfit in the past, that's definitive early 90s

    • @incubustimelord5947
      @incubustimelord5947 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Remember Jamie Foxx and his street gang from the movie The Meteor Man? They had the golden slinky toys and the black business suits. Lol! They all rocked that bleached blonde flat top look that made them all look like reject B-List villain characters from the film New Jack City, lol! 😂

    • @alexsolomon7991
      @alexsolomon7991 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@necrosadotor well that was the point it was something for a character who was supposed to be flamboyant and larger than Life.... Literally an affectation where he could say "yeah go on tease me about my hair I double dog dare you.". It also quite effectively separated him from the pack.

  • @alexdinu589
    @alexdinu589 ปีที่แล้ว +394

    One of the funniest villains I've ever seen, he is charistmatic, likeable and evil as hell and loved every second of it while also being a genuine threat, great character played to perfection by wesely snipes, he looked like he was having the time of his life

    • @JayCity10
      @JayCity10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Something tells me that Nino Brown will be in a video soon.

    • @louisduarte8763
      @louisduarte8763 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Until the 1st Blade movie.

    • @xlxl9440
      @xlxl9440 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Simon Phoenix is a great villian because he loved being one. He did it just for fun. And he has been the funnest villain to watch in my opinion. You actually start kind of rooting for the guy. Be even he knew how dangerous Raymond Cochteau was.

    • @digitalcamaro9708
      @digitalcamaro9708 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@JayCity10Wesley was a true talent because while I loved Phoenix, I hated Nino. Both were fun to watch and compelling villains but while Phoenix was funny, eccentric, unpredictable, and charismatic, Nino was a sick, arrogant, disrespectful killer. Two very good antagonists for two very different reasons.

    • @Dirt-3-
      @Dirt-3- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      “Set yo ass on fiya”

  • @breadmoth6443
    @breadmoth6443 ปีที่แล้ว +419

    I would say Simon Phoenix is less evil than Dr. Raymond Cocteau, because he still gives you a choice and all you have to do is avoid his territories. Dr. Cocteau even disgusts Simon Phoenix to where although he can't directly take him out, he just asks his henchmen to do it. Again the line says it all "Look you can't take away people's right to be assholes." So, while yes Phoenix is a megalomaniac , again even he is repulsed by Cocteau's vision and need to control everything.

    • @XenoRaptor-98765
      @XenoRaptor-98765 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Trope “even evil have standards” as in Simon Phoenix is aware that there are lines that should never be cross.

    • @breadmoth6443
      @breadmoth6443 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@XenoRaptor-98765 exactly - hence why cocteau is the most evil - he wants to have "his society" ... and you have no choice. this is why i recommend the yt video "the politics of demolition man" as it goes into further depths - i realize this isn't supposed to be political but at the same time, the story obviously revolves around it essentially.

    • @Javier-rm6ql
      @Javier-rm6ql ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem is that the Dr. Cocteaus of the world need the Simon Phoenixes for their evil plans.
      So yes, they are worst.

    • @tiberiusvindex804
      @tiberiusvindex804 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Its been awhile since I saw the movie but didn't Cocteau have a mental block implanted on Phoenix so he couldn't actually harm Cocteau? Phoenix had his henchman do it because there was no mental block in him.

    • @XenoRaptor-98765
      @XenoRaptor-98765 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@tiberiusvindex804 correction Dr.Cocteau should of put that “safely feature” to all of the cryo-poisoners.

  • @Warrior-Of-Virtue
    @Warrior-Of-Virtue ปีที่แล้ว +325

    "See, according to Cocteau's plan, I'm the enemy. Cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind of guy who wants to sit in a greasy spoon and think, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecued ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol. I want to eat bacon, butter and buckets of cheese, okay? I want to smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in a non-smoking section. I wanna run through the streets naked with green Jello all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to. Okay, pal? I've seen the future, you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sittin' around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake singing "I'm an Oscar-Meyer Wiener". You wanna live on top, you gotta live Cocteau's way. What he wants, when he wants, how he wants. Your other choice: come down here, maybe starve to death."

    • @DrArthurCGarp
      @DrArthurCGarp ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Great line. I don’t think he means there should be anarchy he just wants to feel free enough to have some unhealthy habits.
      As people begin to feel backed in a corner they desire unnecessarily unhealthy things because it’s a reaction to oppression. At most people’s core they understand this is a reaction but people like Simon make people so afraid the pendulum continues to swing. It’s apathy and chaos that causes oppression and oppression that causes people to idealize a bit of chaos. The movie opens with a terrifying scene of death and it’s done purposefully

    • @angrytheclown801
      @angrytheclown801 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      ​@@DrArthurCGarpIt's moments like Demolition man I like to tell the tale of the hand gripping sand. The tighter it grasps, the more sand leaks out, until there's none left. Whereas just holding it, some leaks out, but you still keep the most. Tight control inevitably always ends up with you controlling nothing.

    • @stevejohnson2941
      @stevejohnson2941 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      "Politicians want to make it illegal to say the word 'fuck', because it makes it easier to make it illegal to say 'fuck the government' "-George Carlin(i think)

    • @louisduarte8763
      @louisduarte8763 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I like to think Dennis Leary made up that speech on the fly, and the director had to stop him from singing his "I'm An Asshole" song.

    • @robertfraser7943
      @robertfraser7943 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Would you rather serve in heaven or rule in hell?

  • @TheRosswise
    @TheRosswise ปีที่แล้ว +144

    This was considered a generic popcorn flick 30 years ago, but watching it today it is amazing how well this film aged.

    • @The_Phoenix_Saga
      @The_Phoenix_Saga ปีที่แล้ว +8

      More so because of how close to reality the fiction has become.
      I have a saying - when comedy becomes reality, what little left is there for sanity?

    • @scottfrye
      @scottfrye ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@The_Phoenix_Saga isn't comedy commonly a jest unto immaturity or unfairness

    • @The_Phoenix_Saga
      @The_Phoenix_Saga ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scottfrye Touche, so isn't it disturbing when that becomes the normality and not just a jest?

    • @Rise_and_Hustle
      @Rise_and_Hustle ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The movie was a box office success. With a profit of 102 million, vs other Stallone movies at the time like Tango and Cash making 66 million profit. Oh, not to mention this was 1993, this was a huge success. One of the only Stallone films he's actually talking about making a sequel to. "Generic" Kinda just sounds like little insecurity when it comes to Wesley's genius on film. Nice try though...I'll give you something else to feel insecure about. Wesley snipes single handedly saved Marvel

    • @TheRosswise
      @TheRosswise ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rise_and_Hustle I was alive when the movie came out, nobody was talking about it back then. In 1993 everybody was talking about Jurassic Park. Quite a few underrated movies came out that year. So yes, it was considered a generic popcorn flick. I appreciate your smartass comment though, cheers.

  • @Warrior-Of-Virtue
    @Warrior-Of-Virtue ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Raymond Cocteau may be the ultimate embodiment of the moral busy bodies that C.S. Lewis warned us about. And it is terrifying just how much our world is beginning to mirror the one depicted in Demolition Man.

    • @SageofCancer
      @SageofCancer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where was that warning tucked away? Narnia of personal letters?

    • @Warrior-Of-Virtue
      @Warrior-Of-Virtue ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@SageofCancer It's from a quote he made. “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

  • @sodog44
    @sodog44 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I loved what Phoenix said about him, "An evil Mr Rodgers." Cocteau is everything that Orwell warned about in his novel 1984, and to an extent Animal Farm when the line "Some pigs are more useful than others." springs to mind thinking about how he wanted to shape society.

  • @jonnyboy7941
    @jonnyboy7941 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I think the reason we all like Phoenix is that Wesley Snipes was just having so much fun playing this character it shone right through making Phoenix much more fun and likeable then the writers meant.

  • @damian_cross
    @damian_cross ปีที่แล้ว +138

    One thing missed about Simon Phoenix that's important here: his charismatic leadership. Phoenix is able to quickly bring the most vicious criminals in the city under his leadership both before and after he's put into cryostasis. Nobody ever questions him or shows even the slightest signs of disloyalty, and he's able to use that loyalty to purge the one weakness affecting him (Cocteau's mental control over him), by having a random henchmen murder Cocteau in his place. It's the one quality Phoenix has that Cocteau lacks that allows him to survive longer...his free will and willingness to question authority. Whereas Cocteau just assumes the system will always work out in the end, Phoenix always questions it and finds a way around it, and he takes others with him along for the ride. That's what makes him the more dangerous villain, imo.

  • @00ghostcobra
    @00ghostcobra ปีที่แล้ว +130

    The world that Cocteau created was an absolute nightmare masked by a pretty shell..

    • @gryphon9507
      @gryphon9507 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yes, turning humans into little better than ants. Can't do anything without the hiveminds say so. With Cocteau as the hivemind.

    • @AxenfonKlatismrek
      @AxenfonKlatismrek ปีที่แล้ว +24

      You know, im more terrified by this movie, considering we currently have Cocteaus in power, and i dont mean just politicians, the pharma owners and rich businessmen who control this world are proof of that.

    • @gryphon9507
      @gryphon9507 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@AxenfonKlatismrek If you've ever seen a video of a speech by WEF head Claus Shwab. He very well might of been the inspiration for Raymond, even down to the robes.

    • @sedderzz7141
      @sedderzz7141 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@gryphon9507Yeah I thought of Cocteau when I first saw Klaus Schwab

    • @polreamonn
      @polreamonn ปีที่แล้ว +3

      One of the 3 seashells after being used.

  • @JonathanGhost42
    @JonathanGhost42 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    The three seashells are the real evil in this movie! But besides: Simon Phoenix and Dr. Raymond Cocteau are both fascinating villains in their own right, but somehow the older i get the more i am frightened from the Dr. Cocteaus in our world...

    • @TimParker-Chambers
      @TimParker-Chambers ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You don't know how to use the three seashells 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @shawnamiller191
      @shawnamiller191 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The three seashells are very simple. You use the big one to scoop up the bulk then the two smaller ones are used like a pincer to clean up the rest

  • @jkeegan154
    @jkeegan154 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    Demolition Man did an excellent job of predicting the future in 1993.

    • @KarateChopShop
      @KarateChopShop ปีที่แล้ว +26

      More like they told you the plans for it

    • @belykwater5601
      @belykwater5601 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      🙄 Inevitable random edgelawd: _This movie shows a cartoon version of a paranoid fantasy I enjoy talking about, so that means my brain is correct and my ego receives precious fuel._ Copy and paste at random on this film, Escape from LA, 1984, RoboCop, etc

    • @InternetHydra
      @InternetHydra ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@belykwater5601Because the people you don’t like don’t have eyeballs to see the world outside their window.
      Imagine simping for Oligarchy…

    • @timothy4011
      @timothy4011 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@InternetHydraL

    • @timothy4011
      @timothy4011 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@belykwater5601W

  • @masterthomas7872
    @masterthomas7872 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Love the film. As a child, I thought Cocteau was a weak villain, but as I grew older, I realized how evil and manipulative this man is. He is the type of politician you don't want in power.....
    Maybe you could do an Analyzing Evil on Biff Tannen from Back to the Future. He seems like a bully, but he has dark tendencies that could be explored more i.e. how in the Alternate 1985, he straight up murdered George McFly.

  • @nephimcknight5832
    @nephimcknight5832 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    You can just tell Snipes is having a blast playing the role. I love it. Such a great movie that's definitely grown on me over the years.

  • @clevermcgenericname891
    @clevermcgenericname891 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Snipes putting on one of the best performances in an action movie, I love it!
    Best part was not even Phoenix could stomach Cocteaus authoritarianism, absolute chaotic evil incarnate.

  • @Kainlarsen
    @Kainlarsen ปีที่แล้ว +112

    The anarchist vs the tyrant; Simon's chaos and brutality contrasts well with Raymond's pervasive, Orwellian control over all.
    Demolition Man was very prophetic in how these forces are now pulling the world one way and another, forcing people to choose a side, rather than think for themselves what is right and wrong.

    • @ParryHotter204
      @ParryHotter204 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Man but what about the three sea shells??

    • @robertkalinic335
      @robertkalinic335 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Be careful about using anarchist here since it has two opposite meanings, hedonist is much more fitting. He reminds me of Nero or Caligula.

    • @robertkalinic335
      @robertkalinic335 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The ungovernable hedonist vs ultimate legalist.

    • @robertkalinic335
      @robertkalinic335 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jvandermijde Bro use whatever definition you want idk

    • @Dirt-3-
      @Dirt-3- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ParryHotter204like chop sticks

  • @smashrhythm
    @smashrhythm ปีที่แล้ว +30

    My favourite Stallone movie. So camp yet so entertaining. The concept is morbid and horrifying when you think about it but its portrayed in such an over the top style it is almost a comedy. Thanks for the video

  • @RAS_Squints
    @RAS_Squints ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Simon Phoenix may be evil, but he has a code a conduct. He even tells Dr. Raymond Cocteau, "You Can't Take Away Peoples Rights To Be AHoles" Ironically this movie is turning out to be a documentary like "Idiocracy" was

  • @shadowdramon01
    @shadowdramon01 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “That’s who you remind me of. An evil Mr Rogers”

  • @ShaDHP23
    @ShaDHP23 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Part of the Holy trinity of films that predicted the future, the other two being Idiocracy and Team America: World Police. Demolition Man accurately predicted the precarious and extreme nature of internet platforms, the surface seeming like platforms like Twitter, Tumblr and Facebook, and the underground resembling 4chan, DeviantArt and Rumble.

  • @Kingofredeyes
    @Kingofredeyes ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There is something to be said about Raymond Cocteau that sets him apart from so many other villains of his nature. He legitimately seems to believe what he preaches and lives by it. We never see him eating banned foods, or sleeping with women, or really ever violating his own laws. He actually lives by the same laws he sets out for the society he built. Even his release of Simon is played more as a misunderstanding where he feels like he has controlled so much of his present that he would be able to control someone from the past and he doesn't really understand what Phoenix is really like and capable of. So many villains like him all end up being hypocrites but always liked that they never went that route with him.

    • @alabastertheunicorn3204
      @alabastertheunicorn3204 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He practiced what he preached which is terrifying given be really seems to believe this way of life is the only way.

  • @360entertainment2
    @360entertainment2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    This was one of mine and my brother’s favorite movies when we were kids after we found it in our Grandpa’s movie collection. Wesley Snipes is great as usual and the guy playing Raymond Cocteau (gosh me and my brother had a great time making fun of his name when we were kids) is described perfectly by Snipes as Phoenix when he called him an “Evil Mr. Rogers” before having Jesse the Body Ventura kill him!

  • @melanoidmarkus
    @melanoidmarkus ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Simon Phoenix is one of the most iconic movie villians of all time

  • @Bombadil-ez9ns
    @Bombadil-ez9ns ปีที่แล้ว +31

    More than these two, I was struck by the duo left standing at the end: Edgar Friendly and Associate Bob. Both essentially had good intentions, but their differences are eerily similar to the differences between right and left now.

    • @angrytheclown801
      @angrytheclown801 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I find that at least a little heartening because while they don't have much time together, they seem to at least get along. Edgar might have shocked him with a few words, but he didn't turn him into a eunuch. (That event happened in the book. Cocteu really hates potential competition.) Kinda saying we can work together without the insane people on hand.

    • @Dirt-3-
      @Dirt-3- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      “You a surgeon with these gloves?”

  • @Javier-rm6ql
    @Javier-rm6ql ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I can look at Claus Schwab to get an idea how Dr Cocteau made that society. The movie is almost prophetic.
    Even the relationship between "enlightened" individuals and street criminals.

  • @tylerpopvinov7177
    @tylerpopvinov7177 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    😂😂😂😂 thank you for this one. Simon is one of my favorite 90s villains. He felt like a Bond henchmen who decided to kill his boss and took over 😆

  • @hannukahcelt2027
    @hannukahcelt2027 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dr. Cocteau and his vision for the future reminded me of a quote I read some time ago:
    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
    ― C. S. Lewis

  • @iisanulquiorrahara8
    @iisanulquiorrahara8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Simon is definitely among the pinnacle of unabashed "fun" in a villain. We watch him have a blast and we have a blast watching him.

  • @shadejakva9367
    @shadejakva9367 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    OOOOH YES! I was hoping you'd finally get to them! Thanks for doing these two!
    Both are indeed two sides of the same coin. They are the embodiments of the two extremes of order and chaos, totalitarianism and anarchy, that society risks when mutual compromise is not found.
    For future reviews, I'd love to see Judge Doom from "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" or Junko Enoshima from "Danganronpa", or Kilgrave from "Jessica Jones".

  • @Kameruner
    @Kameruner ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Demolition Man basically predicted present day California. Loved the movie and this video covering the villains of the film, keep up the good work. 😊

  • @antarcticasol
    @antarcticasol ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could you analyze the evil of the Zodiac Killer? I love your breakdowns of disturbed murderers from a pychoanalysis perspective. Keep up the fantastic work!!

  • @WavyHippie420
    @WavyHippie420 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    One of the most underrated movies IMO… jeez I miss 90’s cinema and blockbuster days!

  • @wayne8201
    @wayne8201 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Simon Phoenix is top 10, at least in the action movie rogues gallery.
    Wesley Snipes deserves so much more credit for this role than he gets. This was a very easy villain to do the wrong way.
    Also... a Joker/Simon Phoenix crossover needs to happen.
    Two true children of chaos... The good guys wouldn't stand a chance.
    Edit: th-cam.com/play/PLYFgHjOL7qe5T3Dxt9Z1N1ngPp5eORnIO.html
    If you need a reminder. (Hope this is allowed.)

  • @jonathanmulondo9206
    @jonathanmulondo9206 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Cocteau and Phoenix are the perfect embodiments of order and Chaos

    • @EvilHienSan
      @EvilHienSan ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lawful and Chaotic Evils.

    • @FabalociousDee
      @FabalociousDee ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@EvilHienSan Yep. Absolute order and absolute chaos need each other to function.

  • @RadiantNinja
    @RadiantNinja ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Fun fact: Tekken's Paul Phoenix has a core move named Demolition Man (d4;2;1+2) a low starter usually meant to end juggle combos; taken straight in name from this movie
    The Tekken character Raven is also inspired by Simon Phoenix. (And Blade, Wesley Snipes in general really.)

  • @PrizMatex
    @PrizMatex ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Can you do an analyzing evil video on Dracula from the Netflix Castlevania series?

    • @billwithers4762
      @billwithers4762 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, this!

    • @sypherthe297th2
      @sypherthe297th2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can save you the trouble. Dracula wasn't evil.

    • @PrizMatex
      @PrizMatex ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sypherthe297th2 Ohh I know, I just want him to explain it and give extra details II may have missed.

    • @billwithers4762
      @billwithers4762 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sypherthe297th2 That may have been the case, but he performed evil actions for sure.

    • @sypherthe297th2
      @sypherthe297th2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billwithers4762 Wiping the Christian Church and its mindless supporters from Europe was completely justified. Look at how the sub-human beasts behaved during the burning. The religion itself was evil and corrupted everything it touched as most, if not all, religions have done since the dawn of civilization.
      So no. His immediate actions weren't evil. They were completely justified.

  • @JoshSweetvale
    @JoshSweetvale 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is a beautiful depiction of Lawful Evil versus Chaotic Evil.

  • @DeeDaKaang1
    @DeeDaKaang1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This movie is definitely an underrated classic ( and the reason Dennis Rodman started coloring his hair)

  • @taylordavison6849
    @taylordavison6849 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I loved this movie growing up. Wesley Snipes had a truly menacing aura as Simon Phoenix, right up there with Vaas Montenegro. It was chilling just how much fun Phoenix appeared to have killing and causing havoc everywhere he went. Considering what I learned about gangs from police and my own research on said groups, Simon Phoenix seems to fit the Dark Tetrad of personality traits with zero tolerances for gaps. He has sadistic, narcissistic, psychopathic, and Machiavellian traits all in one. In the age of sympathetic villains, a look back on Simon Phoenix strikes fear in anyone watching as he does what he wants because he doesn't have a motive that makes them comfortable with his actions. It's brilliant because people have become used to this moral handholding that a lot of fiction does and the antagonist without a clear motive breaks that mould. We deal with villainy like that in our real life on a daily basis, especially with mass shootings. What people never want to entertain is the fact that motives are incidental. It makes people uncomfortable because, as the saying goes, knowledge is power. Villains like Simon Phoenix rob the audience of that power, leaving them as helpless as the victims of the villain. When the motive of the villain is revealed to be something sympathetic, then that hostile wall of villainy falls and we're left with someone reacting to misfortune the way we would've under similar circumstances. They stop being a villain and become a wounded child lashing out at everyone and everything. A motiveless killer, however, becomes a terrifying threat because they can't be reasoned with or placated. The only thing that would satisfy this beast is your suffering and death. It's a good breakaway from this and I love it.

  • @killer101die12345
    @killer101die12345 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Love these videos and how well they are made

  • @ROMANTIKILLER2
    @ROMANTIKILLER2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Demolition Man was a hidden gem at the time of release: it was marketed and received as just another testosteronic action movie full of one-liners, but its commentary on society is more relevant than ever.
    As for its villain, to me those like Dr. Cocteau are the worst kind of evil, whose sense of moral highground and conviction in their ideology made them and those around them think they are good. Such individual, willing to take away every form of individual freedom for their supposed "greater good", are at the most dangerous in times of chaos when a society in disarray is looking for guidance and salvation.

  • @madsjacobsen2551
    @madsjacobsen2551 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The nostalgic critic made an excellent video about this movie in which he also mentions the things you talk about at the end of that video

  • @Vintage-28
    @Vintage-28 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What sold me on Simon Phoenix was the “Slamming my man’s head against the glass in the museum” scene. Then said “Im sorry sir, I didn’t see you there” comically. They could have left it open ended with him escaping John Spartan, but with today being a modern day “San Angeles” it wouldn’t be the same quality film.

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks3338 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    These two villains and movie take me back to my childhood I miss the 90s.

  • @OrdnanceLab
    @OrdnanceLab ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Great video. It's strange how what could have been passed off as a mindless 90's action flick, has become prescient for the direction society seems to be heading these days.

    • @Deadwetgothuncle
      @Deadwetgothuncle ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah totally, you’d be surprised how many “outlandish” concepts they put into movies that are very much true & have been apart of reality.

  • @johnsayles8032
    @johnsayles8032 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I would love to see an analyzing evil on anything from The Venture Brothers, either in The Monarch or in The Guild of Calamitous Intent.

  • @yorutsugraion
    @yorutsugraion ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So happy to see more people getting interested in the twisted character that Simon Phoenix is! I always admired the way he was written and the way he thought, no other character has ever been so captivating to me, the creators really did a great job. I think you analysed everything pretty well, they created such an interesting dynamic.

  • @rafaelgustavo7786
    @rafaelgustavo7786 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    I thought this movie was a parody. But I see it becoming a documentary.

    • @jordanloux3883
      @jordanloux3883 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Stop pretending you'd be one of the scraps. You'd last a day

    • @ihatethisuser1
      @ihatethisuser1 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Easy there buddy, it's just a movie from the 90s lmao

    • @Nefville
      @Nefville ปีที่แล้ว +36

      If TH-cam ran a society it would be EXACTLY like the one in this movie.

    • @a15thcenturysuitofgothicarmor
      @a15thcenturysuitofgothicarmor ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yea they really aren't even hiding it anymore

    • @brianstanton2721
      @brianstanton2721 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@a15thcenturysuitofgothicarmoryeah I'm not sure what the solution is, but everywhere you care to look, you see the bad path chosen over the good one😔. I'm just glad I don't have kids to inherit the not-so-good looking future

  • @YagabodooN
    @YagabodooN ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always liked how Dr Cocteau underestimated Simon's intelligence and determination, his own sense of superiority cost him.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Magnificent analyzis as always! Just like Big Jack those villains who are evil, self aware and enjoy it are SO refreshing! Thanks for yet another great episode!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤

  • @kristiannoel4866
    @kristiannoel4866 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    During the 'Great plague of 2020" i referred to the greeting they shared and realised just how underrated this film is because of the things that it predicted but also because of how realistic the characters are

  • @woodenchair6787
    @woodenchair6787 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Jamie Lanister is the definition of morally grey he would be a great addition to your series

    • @griz312
      @griz312 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are so many great additions it’s hard to pick from a suggested litter. One I really hope that get covered is Abigail from the Crucible, and Daniel Lugo from Pain and Gain.

    • @username.exenotfound2943
      @username.exenotfound2943 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      books aint finished and i doubt they ever will unless george lives to be 100

    • @alialmuhanna4938
      @alialmuhanna4938 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      From the books rather than the show. The Season That Shall Not Be Named … erm … shall not be referenced.

    • @shawnamiller191
      @shawnamiller191 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah totally, a guy who pushes a little kid out of a window hoping he'll die is totally morally gray

    • @naytny5819
      @naytny5819 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jamie is not morally grey lol, sure he becomes more redeemable but pushing a kid out a window is not morally grey lol

  • @EvilHienSan
    @EvilHienSan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Thats who remind me of..... An Evil Mr. Rodgers." One of favorites lines of the movie.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love your channel and work man! Keep it up🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤

  • @ecurps1
    @ecurps1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Holy shit! I'm possessed! I wonder if I can play the accordion, too."

  • @benwasserman8223
    @benwasserman8223 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Demolition Man is that rare 80s action film better known for its social commentary than its action. Even Robocop never had that luck.

    • @jr2904
      @jr2904 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It came out in 1993...

    • @Dirt-3-
      @Dirt-3- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh bruh..

  • @SpaceCase132
    @SpaceCase132 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think there’s a quote from Benjamin Franklin that describes the greatest element in Cocteau’s extinguishing: “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” He had the people of San Angeles trade autonomy for security, and to maintain that status quo, he used a maniac that destroyed both.

  • @TetsuShima
    @TetsuShima ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The mysterious three sea shells cleaning system is undoubtedly the most iconic part of this masterpiece. In fact, even the game "Maneater" and "Cyberpunk 2077" have easter eggs that reference this cleaning method.

    • @Dr_1212
      @Dr_1212 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It will go down as a great unsolved mystery 🤔😂

    • @DamningTooth1
      @DamningTooth1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Vile Eye should make next years April Fools video about the three clam shells. 🐚

    • @PodyTheCirate
      @PodyTheCirate ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rob Schneider’s laugh about Sly not knowing the 3 sea shells has cracked me for 15 years lol

    • @shawnamiller191
      @shawnamiller191 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Dr_1212 the big one is used to scoop up the bulk and the two smaller ones are used like a pincer to clean up the rest.

    • @shawnamiller191
      @shawnamiller191 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's elementary

  • @Gigas0101
    @Gigas0101 ปีที่แล้ว

    You've got an incredible talent, Mr. Vile Eye. Your quick but clinical cadence makes these videos feel tense and undeniably enthralling.

  • @DamningTooth1
    @DamningTooth1 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    In defense of Dr. Cocteau, he did give the world something we’ll likely never see in real life: non-violent cops. That aspect always stood out to me watching that movie, even when I first saw it as a kid.
    I do think it’s interesting how Dr. Cocteau was possibly a well-intentioned person in his younger years, but his ego got the best of him. He achieved peace but also wanted to be downright suffocating with respect to personal liberties (kinda like the Empire from Star Wars, but on a smaller scale). His ego got the best of him because it’s what got him killed; he knew Simon Phoenix couldn’t kill him directly, but Phoenix utilized a simple loophole by simply having one of his minions shoot Cocteau.
    Great video as usual! And love to see you look over one of my personal action films.

    • @Kainlarsen
      @Kainlarsen ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That's the thing though, was he *really* well-intentioned? Or was he merely cloaking his desire for power and control in good intentions? I find that so many people do this; tyring to seem benevolent and altruistic, when they're only serving themselves and their egos. They may even convince themselves that they're doing what's right. I think we should be as wary of those individuals as we are of those who don't bother to hide their harmful intentions.

    • @teknyte-1
      @teknyte-1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think that Cocteau is nothing more or less than an autocrat, who just happens to see the path to power by forcing pacifism on the population. He basically domesticated San Angeles but operated outside his own laws. I also think that although you say ego you meant hubris.

    • @jr2904
      @jr2904 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There can't be non violent cops when there's violent crime...

    • @DamningTooth1
      @DamningTooth1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jr2904I agree. That’s why I sincerely don’t think we’ll ever see non-violent cops.
      Regarding the film, I do think it’s kinda funny how Simon Phoenix completely blows off those cops until they say “or else” to him; then he gets seriously annoyed & pissed.

    • @MrRjh63
      @MrRjh63 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What was more unbelievable is how he got ppl to stop having regular sex.

  • @sebswede9005
    @sebswede9005 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "You can't take people's rights to be assholes".

  • @VideoGamesAndTheWorld
    @VideoGamesAndTheWorld ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Doctor Cocteau is even more evil than Simon Phoenix. Because he released Phoenix so that he can finally be rid of Edgar Friendly.
    Cocteau knew that many innocents will die if caught in Simon's way, and in his twisted belief, he believes that the ends justify the means.
    Phoenix is a psychopath and a trigger happy megalomaniac, but he is the antithesis of Cocteau. Since Cocteau wants to control human thought and behavior, Simon tells him "you can't take away people's right to be assholes".
    Phoenix believes people should choose to be what they want to be. That's why he ain't interested in killing Edgar Friendly.

    • @imyourdaddy5822
      @imyourdaddy5822 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Basically the moral of the story is it doesn't matter how well intentioned they make it sound, someone who wants absolute power will do anything and everything to keep it.

  • @JStantonX
    @JStantonX ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! I’ve been waiting for this! Thank you 🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @kennethclemons3415
    @kennethclemons3415 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Demolition Man has some scary similarities that reflects some of the stuff that's happening in this modern society.

  • @louisduarte8763
    @louisduarte8763 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Demolition Man is still one of my favorite movies because of how it accurately predicted the "future" we live in now. Didn't get everything right (still gun violence and mental health crises), but it got some things right. Stunning to see characters avoid touching each other after a real-life pandemic began.

  • @chriswilson3126
    @chriswilson3126 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Some great analysis as usual. You're right about the cryo prison being cruel, and cocteau would probably euthanize the "undesirables" if given chance.

    • @Dirt-3-
      @Dirt-3- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Euthanizing the undesirables is what the plot of defrosting Simon was all about

  • @doughilton6375
    @doughilton6375 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Surely that isn't everything about them. Each character deserves their own video for how well they were portrayed in the movie as a combined video does not do them enough justice. The carefree villainy vs the calculated form of villainy is well and truly on display in Demolition Man.

  • @PodyTheCirate
    @PodyTheCirate ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Instant watch! Absolutely LOVE this movie since it first came out, Wesley Snipes is a great villain. Good choice!

  • @mikebasil4832
    @mikebasil4832 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you very much for helping me to look back on Demolition Man from a much more enlightened perspective.

  • @Cal-q3t
    @Cal-q3t ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You could do an amazing episode on "The Boys" - so much evil to analyse! From Vaught, Homlander, or any of the major antagonists, to the anti-hero Billy the Butcher.

    • @adrianpaul1985
      @adrianpaul1985 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't it just Billy Butcher?
      His full name is William Butcher.

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember going to watch Demolition Man at the Post Theater when I was stationed in Texas when I was in the US Army.

  • @phenom504
    @phenom504 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A great villain in a great movie. If anyone told me that Demolition Man would end up predicting the future in many ways, I probably would’ve thought they were crazy

  • @xz569
    @xz569 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ironically, the social programs being pushed in the same region today, is actually causing the said destruction, this movie blames on gang warfare. This movie is a gem.

  • @MrRjh63
    @MrRjh63 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    One thing that always bothered me about the cryoprison is that Cocteau made it so Simon could kill him but he didnt program a similar thing into every prisoner. It feel like he would have made obedience to him a major feature since he had the mean to brainwash ppl via the cryoprison. It just seem like a huge oversight on his part given how much his plan involved the homogenization of human behavior.

    • @DrArthurCGarp
      @DrArthurCGarp ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think in a lot of ways Cocteau truly believed that given time to think everyone would prefer safety to chaos. He acknowledges that criminals like Simon exist but he thinks other people aren’t so sociopathic.
      On the other side it shows he’s really just afraid and putting on a mask. When he’s face to face with a monster he protects him but isn’t really thinking about the lives of others (he justifies unleashing Simon in a “controlled” way that protects himself but really nobody else). It’s about ego and fear.

    • @BM-wh5qk
      @BM-wh5qk ปีที่แล้ว

      If he programmed it into every prisoner, that would get noticed more quickly by people working in the prison system. They would start to question why he was making these criminals loyal only to him. He thought no one would look too deeply into Simon, I guess.

  • @arcticdragon3565
    @arcticdragon3565 ปีที่แล้ว

    FINALY!!! So happy to see this episode. Demolition Man is one of my favorite movies!

  • @TetsuShima
    @TetsuShima ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This movie made possible something "Judge Dreed" could not even imagine: making Rob Schneider the comic-relief of a Stallone movie and being actually funny LOL

    • @The_Kawazaki_Kid
      @The_Kawazaki_Kid ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rob plays a soy boy in that lol

    • @MrRjh63
      @MrRjh63 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The only reason Rob worked here was that he was feature sparingly.

  • @misunderstood91
    @misunderstood91 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my favorites now! Love it! Thank you!

  • @destructor3152
    @destructor3152 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wesley Snipes clearly had the time of his life playing the character

  • @arnarkristinsson2767
    @arnarkristinsson2767 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been reading The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo and I would love to see the villain of that story be featured someday. Don't want to say who it is because I feel like many people have not experienced it and don't want to ruin the twist. Love your content, man!

  • @TetsuShima
    @TetsuShima ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Yesterday, we made fun of this movie because of its ridiculous vision of our future.
    Today we make fun of this movie because of its serious depiction of our present

  • @vatroslavmorbidovic4105
    @vatroslavmorbidovic4105 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One is chaotic evil, other is lawful evil.

  • @boltactiongamer6775
    @boltactiongamer6775 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “What seems to be your boggle?”

  • @seansloth
    @seansloth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of my favourite movies of all time, thanks!

  • @jasonbarkley4586
    @jasonbarkley4586 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Please do Al Pacino's John Milton from the Devil's Advocate I would like to see your options on basically a cinematic version of the devil..

  • @ph34rbucket91
    @ph34rbucket91 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was my first rated R movie as a kid and I loved it ever since. Still watch it every now and then, especially for Wesley Snipes' performance. He brought so much fun every time he was on the screen

  • @zakstokes6721
    @zakstokes6721 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. I love demolition man. You should definitely do a video on the characters from heat. Such a good film with great evil characters.

  • @TheRedSyre
    @TheRedSyre ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been waiting for this one for long time! And for Simon Phoenix to be acknowledged. Can't wait to listen

  • @steeltarkus58
    @steeltarkus58 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Only relatively recently I've found out that Nigel Hawthorne portrayed both Dr. Cocteau and Humphrey Appleby from the british series 'yes minister', which is pretty funny considering how similar both characters are

    • @raymeester7883
      @raymeester7883 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He is does the high speed speech. Nigel Hawthorne shows how amazing an elocutor he is.

  • @mr.l7471
    @mr.l7471 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simon said, "Sing " in the home of the brave, play ball" funniest lines from Simon Phoenix 😂

  • @carcosa_swamp
    @carcosa_swamp ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I still think about the three seashells now and then when using the bathroom. Another request to please cover Clyde Shelton from Law Abiding Citizen in a future video!

  • @ghost-facedhindu4275
    @ghost-facedhindu4275 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When teenage me saw this movie, I always thought I'd be like Stallone, but as an adult, I realize the world is gonna make me into Denis Leary.

  • @davidmacon1138
    @davidmacon1138 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fun Fact: They did this to us and are still trying

  • @srami004
    @srami004 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Of all the villains in pop culture I was shocked that you would even list this two. At the same time it makes sense.
    Simon Phoenix is the rabid dog, and Cocteau was the person who unleashed him.
    People became desperate and because of that they consented to Cocteau’s vision

  • @TheMetalAllfather
    @TheMetalAllfather ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Simon felt like a bad guy you almost *wanted* to win. You're kinda rooting for him after so long of having to listen to Dr. Cocteau, and his board of directors. In a weird way, Simon feels like an anti-hero like Edgar Friendly and John Spartan are, even though in reality, he's a maniac killer, his overall purpose is to turn things on their head, to the point that Cocteau's overall plan backfires.

  • @artem1350
    @artem1350 ปีที่แล้ว

    Deep cut! Thank you, the Vile Eye!

  • @nicholascauton9648
    @nicholascauton9648 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cocteau - If Tumblr and Twitter gave birth to a human being and said human being becomes a world leader.
    Phoenix - If Reddit and 4Chan gave birth to a human being and becomes the world's most wanted criminal.
    Spartan - The mostly sane general public.

  • @bannedmann4469
    @bannedmann4469 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this prophetic masterpiece.

  • @ronwisegamgee
    @ronwisegamgee ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A great subject to analyze to follow this subject of futuristic utopias is Shogo Makishima from Psycho Pass as well as the coordinators of that show's perfect society, the Sybil System.