@@crazynachos4230the ice would make it bigger no? i assume it was a water world until it froze over probably because it got knocked into a farther orbit by some object, and water expands when it's frozen so i think it would have gotten bigger
Imagine being in a universe where there are hungry fish the size of small moons. That is rather frightening! This mod is awesome to show exactly what the heck is going on with some of these things in the game.
Ok. I cant be the only Outer Wilds player who didn't know that you could see the eye silencing probe from the eye! That is such a small detail, but this game shows again and again that no detail is too small to include!
Not only that, it’s still there in the base game without the dlc installed. They planned a lot of the dlc lore and design before the base game was even finished 🤯
You also have to consider that giants deep and the quantum moon both have atmospheres so it's not the true size of them, strip that away, and you have the genuine size of the bodies, much like getting rid of the sand from ash twin. Also the true size of dark bramble's planet, there's a few things to modify to try to find the true size but for the sake of this video the size comparison with all the extras makes it much easier to compare them.
@@coinckwac120 sorry i'm a bit late but that just can't be possible. there's a cloudless giant's deep mod and i recall that it's a bit bigger then timber hearth (or brittle hollow). i might be wrong, but do your research.
Imagine if someone created a mod that recreated the solar system as it looked when the owlks first arrived. Examples of changes: • all nomai structures removed • 5th planet is no longer inhabited by the bramble and is not fully frozen yet [Mainly frozen like in the reels though] • the stranger is visible and the interior is restored • ember twin and ash twin [2 ways it could go: - embertwin has water in it and the caves haven't been fully eroded, the sand would be coming in from ashtwin which would slowly lift the water, sumerging the planet. The twins orbits are slightly further from the sun then they are now which is why it is able to support water. - ash twin and ember twin are one. I would defenantly prefer option 1 but if you have any ideas for option 2 please reply below] • brittle hollow can have those weird crystals found on the quantum moon version of it and the black hole can be smaller. The inside would be smaller as well since the black hole hasn't eaten away much of it. • Giants deep could be hotter as it is in a closer orbit, it's clouds aren't fully formed and there are many more tornadoes. The islands are one, but they break apart overtime. Because there is less cloud the water level would be higher too! • timber hearth... Feel free to comment any other Ideas below this! I would be happy to read them. Also I may post this on a couple different outer wilds related videos.
@@LawnMower_gaming1 i would assume the jellyfish were on dark bramble before it was destroyed by the bramble as we can find one in a frozen piece of dark bramble's crust. we also find frozen jellyfish on dark bramble island on giant's deep as well so its safe to assume that the jellyfish came from dark bramble and quickly took to the water-filled giant's deep
@@LawnMower_gaming1 no, as the seed on timber hearth landed a little before the loop started, as referenced by tektite saying he saw it crash over the horizon. more people would have gone to dark bramble if the seed had been there for longer than the nomai had been. alternatively it might have grown into a second dark bramble
The eye planet isn’t actually that big. It’s about the size of Ember twin. It just seems big because it’s the only planet that we’re forced to walk all the way around.
Thats totally my fault Xen. I forgot to list it in the solar bodies I sent you lmfao. And didnt realize it wasnt in the showcase. Apparently I have not been on the ball recently. Sorry bud
@@nevinmyers1245 that makes sense. When I was in the room with the destroyed controls on the ring world ship, I was looking out the window in front of it and saw a pattern of stars fading in and out as if they were passing behind something. Good to see you can actually find it though, even if it is only at the eye.
@@supernova00500 Those stars fading in and out might have been the seams in the RGB display of the Stranger's "windows." Glass is too fragile for space, so the Stranger actually has an RGB display that shows what it would look like if there were windows. If you look closely, you can see the seams between panels and the individual red, green, and blue color cells.
I started playing this game about a month ago. I like how it makes me ask questions. “Who are the Nomai” “how long have they been around” “what happened to them”
The Eye itself is around the same size as ember twin. Though with thick foggy atmosphere and the massive ring like thing with that pattern are probably bigger
Spoilers but hey you shouldn't be watching this if you didn't finish the game I noticed something interesting about the eye signal jammer. In the slideshow, it seems that its four "antlers" have been folded up. There's the body in the center and then these stick-like things on its sides. When in space, these antlers are unfolded to form a claw-looking shape. So the antlers were designed to be foldable during the jammer's launch, much like the james webb space telescope's mirror. The size of the jammer seemed ridiculous to me because in the slide show, it's not much taller than an inhabitant, but then I realized it was folded in the slide show and the size makes much more sense.
Damnit. Idek how that happened. I aligned stuff and everything but that slipped through. Sorry tomothy lol. And idk. That angler just looks goofy to me. Silly and sort of cute. But I may be crazy
im surprised the ringed gas giant is actually a full 3d model, i expected it to be a 2d image or maybe a half sphere, the fact that it actually has a full model is pretty cool also learning that the anglerfish are the same size as the attlerock is just yet another reason to fear these things, i knew they were big but I always thought they were just slightly bigger than the spaceship. I guess I always assumed the skeleton in ember twin was a fully grown one or something. Hopefully that baby in the museum doesn't grow up too fast
ooooo, lore explorer videos always make me happyyyyy. Very cool video! Love seeing this kind of stuff. I could always tell the Nomai probe was huge because when I'd park my ship next to it and get out, It would dwarf everything around it. So it always amazed me when I saw that video on reddit of the probe being launched and hitting the player in their spawn right in the town. You can see it for a split second basically cover the entire timber hearth town because of how massive it is haha. I am curious to see a freecam mod video where you look at the low res/lod planets from far away and compare them to their close up counterparts!
I need to say it because it has been in my mind for so long. but if another dlc comes to the outer wilds it will probably have to do with the dark bramble. We know that pretty much the only thing in the base game which was answered by the echoes of the eye was the eye not giving a signal anymore. And most of the other questions have already been solved in the base game. But there is one more thing that came to my mind which wasnt solved in the base game. We all know that a seed flew at high velocity at the sixth planet and then grew until it became the dark bramble we know and hate but there is a few more questions about dark bramble... 1. Why does it bend the laws of phyics (has it got to do something with the eye or perhaps something similar, something like the eye but not quantum) 2. When did the bramble start spreading (we saw in the strangers paintings that the dark bramble didnt start spreading but when the nomai came the bramble was already large and multidimensional) 3. Where did it come from and is there more of it (maybe it came from some other solar system or maybe just maybe, it might have come from another dimension since it is really bendy and weird, maybe its properties are normal in another dimension) 4. Is it from our universe or is it a remaining thing of the last universe 5. was it sent here intentionally or was it random If there was a new dlc it might answer all these questions and maybe even tackle another kind of storytelling, the nomai had writing, the strangers had pictures, maybe there could be new aliens who use sound and you need to hear where they are maybe just from the sounds of the path they are walking on and you hear something like an echo from a cave or something like that. we could find a new location with new aliens maybe, as i said before, either some other remaining planet or structure from the last universe. Maybe we would have to find a living nomai clan which helps us warp to a special solar system. Maybe we have to teleport to other coordinates (which i doubt because it should probably be accesible in an easier way than literally going to the nomai vessel with a warp core which is the last thing you do in the base game) We could also have to do something with the nomai shuttle, like launch at an exact angle and then we fly through a portal or something. I would greatly apreciate if @The Lore Explorer read this and maybe did a video on it with his own theories. THANK YOU FOR READING (sorry for my poor english but i am austrian so i speak german normally) (also: i just now noticed: why didnt the sun station work, was the sun protected by some other aliens because the sun station was the only thing the nomai created which didnt work) (also: where did the interloper come from) when i write "(also: ... ) thats an edit and it could also be some question that the dlc solves and the dlc could revovle around that
I believe that the size of the ringed planet's model is supposed to be exactly how big the original ringed planet was. If you look at some of the slide reels depicting the hearthians' solar system and the neighboring solar system, the size ratio between the ringed planet and Giant's Deep is pretty much exactly on point.
There's actually a way to size up the ringed planet accurately! Remember, the stranger was constructed from the owlks home planet and has the same diameter as it. This means relative to the stranger, the ringed planet should be ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE, larger than the sun even! I look forward to seeing this model adjusted to include this fact.
The earth looks pretty small from our moon. And if we built a ship that was relatively the size of earth from there. Itd be tiny if it came bac to earth. Thats not a good way to measure things.
@@TheLoreExplorer Well, no. In the slide reel that shows the stranger getting constructed we get a perspective view from SPACE (not on any planet) that shows all 3 bodies side by side, right before the stranger actually warps. The home world and the stranger are the exact same diameter.
Firstly, sorry. I got confused. I thought you were arguing that the stranger would be massive compared to the ringed planet. Since thats their "home planet". There home was a moon. So I always say home moon vs ringed planet. And when I hear home planet I think of the ringed planet. But youre arguing literally the opposite. So I apologize. I dont have enough time to dedicate as much care to reading the comments as Id like. I do see what youre saying. But the reels arent recordings though bud. They are artist depictions. Look at the first few slides of the first reel zoomed out phase. When it shows both systems. Giants deep and the ringed planet look matched up well. And their moon is on scale with timber hearth or even a smaller planet. But then when the stranger comes to our system. The stranger matches up well with giants deep. And is a lot larger than the smaller planets the moon matches up with. So again. I dont really think its a good way to judge it.
@@TheLoreExplorer No worries! Rereading my original comment I definitely was pretty vague... It was not well structured, thank you for taking the time to read regardless! You're not wrong, anything depicted in the slide reels should be taken with a grain of salt... but to me it always felt clear when they were being literal or not. The reel that depicts the stranger travelling to the hearthian system had to be exaggerated because including the hearthian system and the stranger system in the same photo is impossible to represent accurately without them appearing smaller than a pixel. Likewise, I see no reason art depicting their home planet and the ringed one to be innacurate. Its their most treasured memory after all. But at the end of the day you are right, this will always be interpreted information and never straight facts.. Unforunate then.
Its a whole new world. Even smaller mods like cheat and debug mode do a lot! And there is a mod that allows you to remove the hud. Its basically hard mode. Trust me. Give it a shot!
I... did not need to be aware that *_anglerfish can eat the eye-darned Attlerock._* And that they CAN fit through the _exterior hole_ of Dark Bramble even as full size adults, only being stopped by their inability to move in total vacuum (they need the Bramble's thin fog to have something to "swim" against, otherwise they're subject to orbital trajectories... into the sun, ideally). "Besides, a [REDACTED] is definitely better than if we'd created an extra anglerfish or something." "GEH." "My thoughts exactly."
The scale of the Ringed planet is much smaller then it should be. In the reel depicting when the the Inhabitants discovered the eyes signal we can see the Stranger, Owlk homeworld, and the ringed planet all next to each other. The Ringworld is atleast 3-4x times larger then the stranger!
lil observation concernin the size of the ringed planet; there is evidence of a day-night cycle in the simulation, and said cycle is notably quite long. in the time it takes for the hints of a sunrise to show up on the horizon, an entire loop passes. considerably slower rotation than planets in the outer wilds system also, if we assume that the simulation was made accurate to the real deal, we can also assume that the homeworld is quite large based on the size of the many areas it's made up of, and the fact that there's clearly meant to seem like there's more out there beyond our reach i might even go so far as to say that the size of celestial bodies in the owlk's system may be closer to the scale shown in kerbal space program than the scale shown in the outer wilds system
Well. Its a moon around a gas giant. Its likely tidally locked to its home planet. Like the moon is to ours. So the day night cycle would be closer to a month instead of a day. As it would only rotate fully once(in reference to the sun) it orbited its home planet. Im not sure you can use such things as measurement of scale either. But its a good thought.
oh yknow what, i hadn't considered that it might be tidally locked, that's an interestin thought! still speaks quite a bit of scale since moons orbit decently fast in the ow system
Yeah. I sort of mentioned scale to the lead dev. They mention that the scale in ow is abstract. So its hard to get a good sense of relatively fast or slow really. the 22 minutes could be 22 mintutes. Or 10 years. We dont know
It's weird that all of these planet-sized spaceships in the game don't have their own gravity well, in this universe, you could literally have a spaceship with "artificial gravity" by having its center immensely dense.
@@TheLoreExplorerWell, it doesn’t work for a conventional rocket. In our universe. But when planets are tiny, you have control of gravity and you can teleport, I’m not so sure it matters.
I thought this was a mod to change the planets to real-life scale lol Still pretty cool to see the relative sizes of the planets though. you don't get to see them compared so everything either looks huge or tiny Also i just realised, what's the actual size of Dark Bramble's internal space? it's not here :(
I think the strangers' ringed planet is much bigger than anything in our solar system. The ringworld itself was around the size of their moon if I remember correctly, meaning the ringed planet must be MUCH bigger than the ringworld
I think you may be confused. The "Ringed World" and the "ringed planet" are the same object. Their home moon also seemed a lot smaller than the ringed planet. And in the reels the stranger was closer size to the moon. Not the planet. So im not sure the logic youre using here.
@@TheLoreExplorer I was using ringed planet to denote the planet their moon orbited and ringworld to denote the Stranger, I couldn't think of the name at the time so I just called it what the ship log calls it
Ahh. Alright. Even so. Those reels arent too reliable. Which is seriously frustrating. I know. But they cant be. In the first reel it shows the stranger next to the home moon. They are the same size. But in that same reel, when they zoom out to both system, the home moon is about the same size as timber hearth. So logic says the moon, stranger, and timber hearth are all the same size. Yet when the stranger comes to our system it stacks up with giants deep. Not the smaller planets. These changing sizes proves those reels arent reliable. They depict abstract truths. The scale shouldnt be taken as fact. You can see other examples like this in the reels as well.
Bro. I saw that posted on reddit and I was going to mention that Im doing a scale video as well. And "You probably wish you could use some footage or the mod cause its unique". But that sounded mean. I wish my video came out a few days earlier so you coulve referenced it. Sorry bud.
one thing we should see is the player scale and marshmallows AND PINE TREES. but rlly what would the size of the Eye vs the Sun I think the Eye is bigger its most likely bigger than giants deep
I think the modder said its meant o be in the empty spot before the vessel. But i dont remember seeing an empty spot there. And it makes little sense. The vessel flies above the eye and is way smaller.
funny how the nomai vessel is smaller than the stranger given there would be more nomai individuals though it makes sense as one is trying to be a planet, and one isn't (even though they're both planet sized)
All i said was "the docking bay isnt that small." I think its literally one of the largest single rooms they have on the ship. Pretty big compared to most other buildings and spaces within the stranger. Wasnt really speaking to anything else. I think youre probably right AJ. Even folded its probably too big to fit in the docking bay. Especially standing up like they show it in the reel. Though the probe is skinner than our ship. If they laid it down and built it in two(folded up) pieces, then attached them just outside or something, then they may have been able to construct it there for the most part. But even then itd be stretching the space in one docking bay. But honestly, they dont have a more "tiny" room to do it in. The docking bay is the only area (aside from space) where they could have constructed it and still got it out to space. So maybe, again, the scale is off. If the probe was designed any smaller itd look realllllly tiny through the telescope at the eye. So maybe it is supposed to fit inside the docking bay. They just made it bigger so we can see it better. Cause thinking about it. Honestly where else could they build it? They dont seem to have spacesuits laying around to work in space. And anywhere else itd be trapped inside the stranger.
I suppose youre probably right. I just always think "If its something they could have depicted, but didnt. Then there is a reason". If they have spacesuits I dont understand why the devs didnt depict that. I know its something they do. They dont depict us making spaceships or anything. And they DONT always have a reason for it. But in this case it is sort of story important. Which I dont like assuming things for. There has to be something hinting at that. And in this case I suppose "itd be impossible for them to make without spacesuits" is good enough.
The part that looked like an artifact is used to launch some kind of scanning probe, I found the room for it. And if you closely look at that end in the center is a mount for it
Im not sure what youre talking about. The part that looks like the artifact are the 5 spindly arms coming out from the side. And the room for what? Could you describe where its at?
@@TheLoreExplorer I think they are just confused what the signal blocker is. I think they assume it's a device to hold a scanner device, and at the eye, you can see the device but missing its scanner so you only see the mount, and the room for it they talk about is the signal locator room in the stranger. Like I said, though, I don't think they understood what the signal blocker actually is and assumed it is a holder for a scanner long since lost.
Im not so sure thats true. Gravity is caused by mass. If the mass of giants deep was larger than the mass of the sun. Giants deep would be the solar systems gravitational center. Im not so sure a planet that orbits a sun can outweigh it. Thats an interesting question.
@@TheLoreExplorer Honestly, at this point, it’s like all the Outer Wilds planets/other locations are all competing to see which one can be the most scientifically nonsensical celestial body, at least by IRL standards of course
I've decided to create an "Outer Wilds Dumbnuts" playlist, it's basically a playlist full of yet to come episodes of me and some possible friends doing dumb experiments in Outer Wilds, yet we also speak as if we are dumb and have lots of voice crack XD
I thought the eye silencing probe was the stranger when i looked out of the vessel while seeing the eye of the universe edit:i just noticed that there could be another species that only has 1 eye because the hearthiens have 4 nomai have 3 elks have 2 but the unknown alien have 1 and the one that has none is probably the jelly fish in giants deep
Is the Ash Twin Project actually I side Ash Twin? What I mean is, if you enable no-clipping, can you go through the crust of Ash Twin to see the Project?
In the slide reels, specifically the first one by River Lowlands, you can see Giant's Deep and the ringed gas giant at the same time, and the ringed gas giant looks about the same size or slightly smaller than Giant's deep.
Yeah. But the same reel shows the stranger, home moon, and timber hearth to be around the same size as well. And when you see the stranger we know its bigger than that. The scale in reels cant be relied upon too much. With that said. Thats still my guess. Two gas giants being relatively similar makes sense.
@@TheLoreExplorer While the stranger was most likely made smaller on the screen to avoid it looking weird, the larger things like most of the planets looked pretty close to scale. The relative sizes of Giant's deep and the blue gas giant looked similar to the relative sizes between Jupiter and Saturn. Edit: I was confused.
Hey man I really like your videos but you don’t seem to cover any other games. Such as their lore etc… I really would like to see you grow further and I feel changing it up a bit would help.
I’ve tried to cover other games. I have a whole subnautica series and I tried one on a game called Claire de Lune. They haven’t done all that well. I’m sure I’ll cover other games in the future though. It’s just discouraging knowing your views go from 2-3k to 700-1k.
@@TheLoreExplorer ya that’s understandable hopefully there’s a good game that comes out that you can cover. I’ll recommend some if I come across any. 👍
Xen said it was hard to work with. Its basically in its own scene. So Im guessing it was an issue with that. We also kind of wanted to show the internal of bramble. As well as the simulation. But it was too difficult.
@@TheLoreExplorer I was wondering that too because I thought I had gotten it working, so that's very strange! It's supposed to be in the empty spot before the vessel. I'll have to correct that before I release the mod
@@TheLoreExplorer Yeah, you load into a new level when you engage the Vessel's warp drive - you can spot the loading icon in the bottom right if you pay attention. Another clue is that the Sun just looks like a orange dot in space with less detail compared to when you just fly away from the solar system normally.
Its sort of confusing. The stranger is the only thing added to the solar system! And we dont get to visit any new system or anything. But the ringed planet is indeed in the dlc! Such mystery! lol
Owls’ gas planet is much bigger, when you fly about 2 kms on nomai shuttle it gets not so bigger th-cam.com/video/FGQMAscH9X0/w-d-xo.html (it gets bigger, so, I gues, devs remember what you can fly where)
has anyone ever figured out how big dark bramble would have been pre-bramble? we have the curve of the planet so it wouldnt be hard
i don't think itll be too hard. In the owlk videos/slides we see dark bramble prior to it expanding with the vines.
@@Octet In the slides it looks halfway between the size of Timber Hearth and Brittle Hollow
@@nevinmyers1245 there you go!
Also remember that pre-ice bramble planet also exists so it would likely also be bigger!
@@crazynachos4230the ice would make it bigger no? i assume it was a water world until it froze over probably because it got knocked into a farther orbit by some object, and water expands when it's frozen so i think it would have gotten bigger
Imagine being in a universe where there are hungry fish the size of small moons. That is rather frightening! This mod is awesome to show exactly what the heck is going on with some of these things in the game.
Im pretty sure that was in the original concept. Would have been such a different game lol.
@@TheLoreExplorer Makes me think of Sunless Skies, where that would totally be a thing you run into.
How do we know the eye isn't just the lure of a galactic scale anglerfish? :P
I'm pretty sure Warhammer 40k has space whales the size of small moons, and that's not even counting the hive fleet Tyranids.
@@centurosproductions8827 Sunless skies enjoyer detected
oppinion respected.
Ok. I cant be the only Outer Wilds player who didn't know that you could see the eye silencing probe from the eye! That is such a small detail, but this game shows again and again that no detail is too small to include!
I never knew that
I completely forgot to look for it today as I just beat the dlc today and was wanting to do the ending again but with the prisoner as well.
Not only that, it’s still there in the base game without the dlc installed. They planned a lot of the dlc lore and design before the base game was even finished 🤯
I saw it before fully finishing the DLC, and thought that it was just a owlk probe.
You also have to consider that giants deep and the quantum moon both have atmospheres so it's not the true size of them, strip that away, and you have the genuine size of the bodies, much like getting rid of the sand from ash twin. Also the true size of dark bramble's planet, there's a few things to modify to try to find the true size but for the sake of this video the size comparison with all the extras makes it much easier to compare them.
Be interesting to see giants deep without atmosphere
The size of the attlrock
@@coinckwac120 is this true?
@@grumpy2661 it is between the size of the attlrock and timber Heart
@@coinckwac120 sorry i'm a bit late but that just can't be possible. there's a cloudless giant's deep mod and i recall that it's a bit bigger then timber hearth (or brittle hollow). i might be wrong, but do your research.
Imagine if someone created a mod that recreated the solar system as it looked when the owlks first arrived.
Examples of changes:
• all nomai structures removed
• 5th planet is no longer inhabited by the bramble and is not fully frozen yet [Mainly frozen like in the reels though]
• the stranger is visible and the interior is restored
• ember twin and ash twin [2 ways it could go:
- embertwin has water in it and the caves haven't been fully eroded, the sand would be coming in from ashtwin which would slowly lift the water, sumerging the planet. The twins orbits are slightly further from the sun then they are now which is why it is able to support water.
- ash twin and ember twin are one.
I would defenantly prefer option 1 but if you have any ideas for option 2 please reply below]
• brittle hollow can have those weird crystals found on the quantum moon version of it and the black hole can be smaller. The inside would be smaller as well since the black hole hasn't eaten away much of it.
• Giants deep could be hotter as it is in a closer orbit, it's clouds aren't fully formed and there are many more tornadoes. The islands are one, but they break apart overtime. Because there is less cloud the water level would be higher too!
• timber hearth...
Feel free to comment any other Ideas below this! I would be happy to read them.
Also I may post this on a couple different outer wilds related videos.
I think giants deep would be the same but more chilled out
Well the reels say that the twins were NEVER THE SAME ONE OR EMBER TWIN WAS A MOON FOR BRAMBLE
subsurface ocean on dark bramble with jellyfish swimming around, no jellyfish on giant's deep
@@LawnMower_gaming1 i would assume the jellyfish were on dark bramble before it was destroyed by the bramble as we can find one in a frozen piece of dark bramble's crust. we also find frozen jellyfish on dark bramble island on giant's deep as well so its safe to assume that the jellyfish came from dark bramble and quickly took to the water-filled giant's deep
@@LawnMower_gaming1 no, as the seed on timber hearth landed a little before the loop started, as referenced by tektite saying he saw it crash over the horizon. more people would have gone to dark bramble if the seed had been there for longer than the nomai had been. alternatively it might have grown into a second dark bramble
Now I'm wondering about the size of the Eye planet and Eye rift. I think they should be really big
The eye planet isn’t actually that big. It’s about the size of Ember twin. It just seems big because it’s the only planet that we’re forced to walk all the way around.
@@damonrowsell2393 Hm. That makes sense. Thanks
@@damonrowsell2393 is this true?
@@damonrowsell2393 Hm, that sounds right, but that 2.4x gravity is crazy then, lmao.
@@SupremeDPmaybe it’s because of the *C L O U D*
I'm curious how big the area inside dark bramble's largest area is, like how many of the planets could fit inside it?
There’s multiple pockets inside, but I think they’re all roughly similar in size.
Probably everything could fit I’d imagine.
its infinite
@@orphieforce3866 it's not, there's a shot of it in the Outer Wilds documentary
@@ClubSoda98 ye but for all lore reasons it is
@@orphieforce3866lore wise, yee
There isn't Interloper here. I'm curious how big it really is. It looks very small but caves look big
Wow. I cant believe I didnt notice it wasnt there lmfao
@@TheLoreExplorer check if it’s inside the sun lol
oh geez yeah I completely forgot that one existed haha
Thats totally my fault Xen. I forgot to list it in the solar bodies I sent you lmfao. And didnt realize it wasnt in the showcase. Apparently I have not been on the ball recently. Sorry bud
@@TheLoreExplorer I'd love to see a list of all the sizes in meters in one place haha
It would have been cool to see all the different sizes of the sun.
Wait, the silencer probe is a real thing?! I wasn't just hallucinating when I thought I had seen it in the depths of space?
Yes but you can only see it at the Eye
@@nevinmyers1245 that makes sense. When I was in the room with the destroyed controls on the ring world ship, I was looking out the window in front of it and saw a pattern of stars fading in and out as if they were passing behind something.
Good to see you can actually find it though, even if it is only at the eye.
@@supernova00500 Those stars fading in and out might have been the seams in the RGB display of the Stranger's "windows." Glass is too fragile for space, so the Stranger actually has an RGB display that shows what it would look like if there were windows. If you look closely, you can see the seams between panels and the individual red, green, and blue color cells.
@@nevinmyers1245 You can also see them turn off for a second and slowly turn back on when the stranger opens it's fins.
I started playing this game about a month ago. I like how it makes me ask questions. “Who are the Nomai” “how long have they been around” “what happened to them”
You still make videos of this game! That's great because I started Friday!
watching this live, the eye is most definately the largest out of all of them if it could be spawned in the solar system
The Eye itself is around the same size as ember twin. Though with thick foggy atmosphere and the massive ring like thing with that pattern are probably bigger
Spoilers but hey you shouldn't be watching this if you didn't finish the game
I noticed something interesting about the eye signal jammer. In the slideshow, it seems that its four "antlers"
have been folded up. There's the body in the center and then these stick-like things on its sides. When in space, these antlers are unfolded to form a claw-looking shape. So the antlers were designed to be foldable during the jammer's launch, much like the james webb space telescope's mirror. The size of the jammer seemed ridiculous to me because in the slide show, it's not much taller than an inhabitant, but then I realized it was folded in the slide show and the size makes much more sense.
Lol, I love my new name of Tomothy 😂
So cool to see all these scale comparisons. Those moon sized angler fish scare me 😨
Damnit. Idek how that happened. I aligned stuff and everything but that slipped through. Sorry tomothy lol. And idk. That angler just looks goofy to me. Silly and sort of cute. But I may be crazy
@@TheLoreExplorer no worries at all 😂
It's crazy that despite how much this game has been diesected there are still new things you find!
im surprised the ringed gas giant is actually a full 3d model, i expected it to be a 2d image or maybe a half sphere, the fact that it actually has a full model is pretty cool
also learning that the anglerfish are the same size as the attlerock is just yet another reason to fear these things, i knew they were big but I always thought they were just slightly bigger than the spaceship. I guess I always assumed the skeleton in ember twin was a fully grown one or something. Hopefully that baby in the museum doesn't grow up too fast
yeah it actually rotates in the dream world
I’m scared he didn’t say “and this is outer wilds” are you ok
ooooo, lore explorer videos always make me happyyyyy. Very cool video! Love seeing this kind of stuff. I could always tell the Nomai probe was huge because when I'd park my ship next to it and get out, It would dwarf everything around it. So it always amazed me when I saw that video on reddit of the probe being launched and hitting the player in their spawn right in the town. You can see it for a split second basically cover the entire timber hearth town because of how massive it is haha.
I am curious to see a freecam mod video where you look at the low res/lod planets from far away and compare them to their close up counterparts!
I'd like to see, how the tunnels fit into their planets. I believe Embertwin to be completely hollowed out by all of its tunnels
I need to say it because it has been in my mind for so long. but if another dlc comes to the outer wilds it will probably have to do with the dark bramble. We know that pretty much the only thing in the base game which was answered by the echoes of the eye was the eye not giving a signal anymore. And most of the other questions have already been solved in the base game. But there is one more thing that came to my mind which wasnt solved in the base game. We all know that a seed flew at high velocity at the sixth planet and then grew until it became the dark bramble we know and hate but there is a few more questions about dark bramble...
1. Why does it bend the laws of phyics (has it got to do something with the eye or perhaps something similar, something like the eye but not quantum)
2. When did the bramble start spreading (we saw in the strangers paintings that the dark bramble didnt start spreading but when the nomai came the bramble was already large and multidimensional)
3. Where did it come from and is there more of it (maybe it came from some other solar system or maybe just maybe, it might have come from another dimension since it is really bendy and weird, maybe its properties are normal in another dimension)
4. Is it from our universe or is it a remaining thing of the last universe
5. was it sent here intentionally or was it random
If there was a new dlc it might answer all these questions and maybe even tackle another kind of storytelling, the nomai had writing, the strangers had pictures, maybe there could be new aliens who use sound and you need to hear where they are maybe just from the sounds of the path they are walking on and you hear something like an echo from a cave or something like that. we could find a new location with new aliens maybe, as i said before, either some other remaining planet or structure from the last universe. Maybe we would have to find a living nomai clan which helps us warp to a special solar system. Maybe we have to teleport to other coordinates (which i doubt because it should probably be accesible in an easier way than literally going to the nomai vessel with a warp core which is the last thing you do in the base game) We could also have to do something with the nomai shuttle, like launch at an exact angle and then we fly through a portal or something.
I would greatly apreciate if @The Lore Explorer read this and maybe did a video on it with his own theories.
THANK YOU FOR READING
(sorry for my poor english but i am austrian so i speak german normally)
(also: i just now noticed: why didnt the sun station work, was the sun protected by some other aliens because the sun station was the only thing the nomai created which didnt work)
(also: where did the interloper come from)
when i write "(also: ... ) thats an edit and it could also be some question that the dlc solves and the dlc could revovle around that
I believe that the size of the ringed planet's model is supposed to be exactly how big the original ringed planet was. If you look at some of the slide reels depicting the hearthians' solar system and the neighboring solar system, the size ratio between the ringed planet and Giant's Deep is pretty much exactly on point.
That mod helped me appreciate that angler fishes don't leave dark bramble ;-;
In some old test versions of the game they did!
There's actually a way to size up the ringed planet accurately!
Remember, the stranger was constructed from the owlks home planet and has the same diameter as it. This means relative to the stranger, the ringed planet should be ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE, larger than the sun even! I look forward to seeing this model adjusted to include this fact.
The earth looks pretty small from our moon. And if we built a ship that was relatively the size of earth from there. Itd be tiny if it came bac to earth. Thats not a good way to measure things.
@@TheLoreExplorer Well, no. In the slide reel that shows the stranger getting constructed we get a perspective view from SPACE (not on any planet) that shows all 3 bodies side by side, right before the stranger actually warps.
The home world and the stranger are the exact same diameter.
@@hexdebt7670 big brain moment
Firstly, sorry. I got confused. I thought you were arguing that the stranger would be massive compared to the ringed planet. Since thats their "home planet". There home was a moon. So I always say home moon vs ringed planet. And when I hear home planet I think of the ringed planet. But youre arguing literally the opposite. So I apologize. I dont have enough time to dedicate as much care to reading the comments as Id like. I do see what youre saying. But the reels arent recordings though bud. They are artist depictions. Look at the first few slides of the first reel zoomed out phase. When it shows both systems. Giants deep and the ringed planet look matched up well. And their moon is on scale with timber hearth or even a smaller planet. But then when the stranger comes to our system. The stranger matches up well with giants deep. And is a lot larger than the smaller planets the moon matches up with. So again. I dont really think its a good way to judge it.
@@TheLoreExplorer No worries! Rereading my original comment I definitely was pretty vague... It was not well structured, thank you for taking the time to read regardless!
You're not wrong, anything depicted in the slide reels should be taken with a grain of salt... but to me it always felt clear when they were being literal or not.
The reel that depicts the stranger travelling to the hearthian system had to be exaggerated because including the hearthian system and the stranger system in the same photo is impossible to represent accurately without them appearing smaller than a pixel.
Likewise, I see no reason art depicting their home planet and the ringed one to be innacurate. Its their most treasured memory after all.
But at the end of the day you are right, this will always be interpreted information and never straight facts.. Unforunate then.
7:41 🤓: Uhm, actually, anglerfish can't pounce
I'm just getting into OW mods, I'm very excited!
Its a whole new world. Even smaller mods like cheat and debug mode do a lot! And there is a mod that allows you to remove the hud. Its basically hard mode. Trust me. Give it a shot!
I... did not need to be aware that *_anglerfish can eat the eye-darned Attlerock._* And that they CAN fit through the _exterior hole_ of Dark Bramble even as full size adults, only being stopped by their inability to move in total vacuum (they need the Bramble's thin fog to have something to "swim" against, otherwise they're subject to orbital trajectories... into the sun, ideally).
"Besides, a [REDACTED] is definitely better than if we'd created an extra anglerfish or something." "GEH." "My thoughts exactly."
The scale of the Ringed planet is much smaller then it should be.
In the reel depicting when the the Inhabitants discovered the eyes signal we can see the Stranger, Owlk homeworld, and the ringed planet all next to each other. The Ringworld is atleast 3-4x times larger then the stranger!
lil observation concernin the size of the ringed planet; there is evidence of a day-night cycle in the simulation, and said cycle is notably quite long. in the time it takes for the hints of a sunrise to show up on the horizon, an entire loop passes. considerably slower rotation than planets in the outer wilds system
also, if we assume that the simulation was made accurate to the real deal, we can also assume that the homeworld is quite large based on the size of the many areas it's made up of, and the fact that there's clearly meant to seem like there's more out there beyond our reach
i might even go so far as to say that the size of celestial bodies in the owlk's system may be closer to the scale shown in kerbal space program than the scale shown in the outer wilds system
Well. Its a moon around a gas giant. Its likely tidally locked to its home planet. Like the moon is to ours. So the day night cycle would be closer to a month instead of a day. As it would only rotate fully once(in reference to the sun) it orbited its home planet. Im not sure you can use such things as measurement of scale either. But its a good thought.
oh yknow what, i hadn't considered that it might be tidally locked, that's an interestin thought! still speaks quite a bit of scale since moons orbit decently fast in the ow system
Yeah. I sort of mentioned scale to the lead dev. They mention that the scale in ow is abstract. So its hard to get a good sense of relatively fast or slow really. the 22 minutes could be 22 mintutes. Or 10 years. We dont know
It's weird that all of these planet-sized spaceships in the game don't have their own gravity well, in this universe, you could literally have a spaceship with "artificial gravity" by having its center immensely dense.
Immensely dense and being a spaceship dont work well together. Youll essentially never see a spacecraft that does that.
@@TheLoreExplorerWell, it doesn’t work for a conventional rocket. In our universe. But when planets are tiny, you have control of gravity and you can teleport, I’m not so sure it matters.
...But how big is the Eye?
as big as you want it to be
THE Phil's BACKER Satellite (OR WHATEVER ITS Called) IS BACK!!!!!!!
Had it left?
Love your content. Did you also made an exploration video of the difference between the 'reduce frights' option in the Echoes of the Eye?
Kinda sad we can’t compare the eye to anything
I thought this was a mod to change the planets to real-life scale lol
Still pretty cool to see the relative sizes of the planets though. you don't get to see them compared so everything either looks huge or tiny
Also i just realised, what's the actual size of Dark Bramble's internal space? it's not here :(
I think the strangers' ringed planet is much bigger than anything in our solar system. The ringworld itself was around the size of their moon if I remember correctly, meaning the ringed planet must be MUCH bigger than the ringworld
I think you may be confused. The "Ringed World" and the "ringed planet" are the same object. Their home moon also seemed a lot smaller than the ringed planet. And in the reels the stranger was closer size to the moon. Not the planet. So im not sure the logic youre using here.
@@TheLoreExplorer I was using ringed planet to denote the planet their moon orbited and ringworld to denote the Stranger, I couldn't think of the name at the time so I just called it what the ship log calls it
Ahh. Alright. Even so. Those reels arent too reliable. Which is seriously frustrating. I know. But they cant be. In the first reel it shows the stranger next to the home moon. They are the same size. But in that same reel, when they zoom out to both system, the home moon is about the same size as timber hearth. So logic says the moon, stranger, and timber hearth are all the same size. Yet when the stranger comes to our system it stacks up with giants deep. Not the smaller planets. These changing sizes proves those reels arent reliable. They depict abstract truths. The scale shouldnt be taken as fact. You can see other examples like this in the reels as well.
@@TheLoreExplorer Ah that makes sense.
Hey man you ever thought about doing an Outer Wilds Ice berg video. That might be a cool Idea.
Love Your videos keep it up.
Awesome video as always. I published my first video on the scale of outer wilds a few days ago - wish I could've referred to some of this material!
Bro. I saw that posted on reddit and I was going to mention that Im doing a scale video as well. And "You probably wish you could use some footage or the mod cause its unique". But that sounded mean. I wish my video came out a few days earlier so you coulve referenced it. Sorry bud.
@@TheLoreExplorer I'll keep it in mind for the follow-up :)
THE Satellite IS BACK
Now I understand how owls can use all resources of their moon.
i always wished we could explore a bit more of the vessel's interior. seeing as it was a home as well as transportation.
The eye silencer probe seems a bit strange being this large considering we see it built smaller in one of the reels
one thing we should see is the player scale and marshmallows AND PINE TREES. but rlly what would the size of the Eye vs the Sun I think the Eye is bigger its most likely bigger than giants deep
I think the modder said its meant o be in the empty spot before the vessel. But i dont remember seeing an empty spot there. And it makes little sense. The vessel flies above the eye and is way smaller.
@@TheLoreExplorer yeah true but perspective but keep up the good work Lore Explorer
funny how the nomai vessel is smaller than the stranger given there would be more nomai individuals
though it makes sense as one is trying to be a planet, and one isn't (even though they're both planet sized)
strange, in one of the slide reels you can see the probe hanging from the ceiling in a tiny room when the owlks are building it :P
Thats the docking bay. Not so tiny bud
I already commented this but the jammer also seems to be folded up in there
All i said was "the docking bay isnt that small." I think its literally one of the largest single rooms they have on the ship. Pretty big compared to most other buildings and spaces within the stranger. Wasnt really speaking to anything else. I think youre probably right AJ. Even folded its probably too big to fit in the docking bay. Especially standing up like they show it in the reel. Though the probe is skinner than our ship. If they laid it down and built it in two(folded up) pieces, then attached them just outside or something, then they may have been able to construct it there for the most part. But even then itd be stretching the space in one docking bay.
But honestly, they dont have a more "tiny" room to do it in. The docking bay is the only area (aside from space) where they could have constructed it and still got it out to space. So maybe, again, the scale is off. If the probe was designed any smaller itd look realllllly tiny through the telescope at the eye. So maybe it is supposed to fit inside the docking bay. They just made it bigger so we can see it better. Cause thinking about it. Honestly where else could they build it? They dont seem to have spacesuits laying around to work in space. And anywhere else itd be trapped inside the stranger.
I suppose youre probably right. I just always think "If its something they could have depicted, but didnt. Then there is a reason". If they have spacesuits I dont understand why the devs didnt depict that. I know its something they do. They dont depict us making spaceships or anything. And they DONT always have a reason for it. But in this case it is sort of story important. Which I dont like assuming things for. There has to be something hinting at that. And in this case I suppose "itd be impossible for them to make without spacesuits" is good enough.
The part that looked like an artifact is used to launch some kind of scanning probe, I found the room for it. And if you closely look at that end in the center is a mount for it
Im not sure what youre talking about. The part that looks like the artifact are the 5 spindly arms coming out from the side. And the room for what? Could you describe where its at?
@@TheLoreExplorer I think they are just confused what the signal blocker is. I think they assume it's a device to hold a scanner device, and at the eye, you can see the device but missing its scanner so you only see the mount, and the room for it they talk about is the signal locator room in the stranger. Like I said, though, I don't think they understood what the signal blocker actually is and assumed it is a holder for a scanner long since lost.
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i wonder if you could see the quantum mood without the atmosphere?
Modders could probably do that. Yeah. You should join their discord and suggest it! They are very welcoming!
I'm trying to build the vessel so this helped a lot
Please release this mod, it would be awesome to check this out in VR! :D
Love your vids bro
Brittle hollow has a black hole inside it probably more mass than everything in the game combined
Sun's are gaseous hydrogen and helium, whereas giants deep is almost entirely water (far denser than gas). It could really be heavier than the sun.
Im not so sure thats true. Gravity is caused by mass. If the mass of giants deep was larger than the mass of the sun. Giants deep would be the solar systems gravitational center. Im not so sure a planet that orbits a sun can outweigh it. Thats an interesting question.
@@TheLoreExplorer Honestly, at this point, it’s like all the Outer Wilds planets/other locations are all competing to see which one can be the most scientifically nonsensical celestial body, at least by IRL standards of course
Am I the only one noticing how the stranger is assimetrycal?
I've decided to create an "Outer Wilds Dumbnuts" playlist, it's basically a playlist full of yet to come episodes of me and some possible friends doing dumb experiments in Outer Wilds, yet we also speak as if we are dumb and have lots of voice crack XD
Good Video!👏👏👏
Glad you enjoyed it bud!
Imagine one loop the opc probe accidentally hits the atp because a miscalculation
I thought the eye silencing probe was the stranger when i looked out of the vessel while seeing the eye of the universe edit:i just noticed that there could be another species that only has 1 eye because the hearthiens have 4 nomai have 3 elks have 2 but the unknown alien have 1 and the one that has none is probably the jelly fish in giants deep
Nice video!!
Glad you enjoy it!
I hope someone tries to figure out what the center hallway that got ripped out of the sun station looks like.
Its just a bridge. It seems to have been enclosed. It has the same design as normal nomai buildings or designs.
the attlerock crater was made by a anglerfish
Saw the shiny reflective ice. Thought it was another angler. And just took a nibble. (cause they are territorial I think)
@@TheLoreExplorer
>angler
>saw
plz explain
They are mostly blind but Ive always believed they could see bright lights. Otherwise they couldnt navigate the bramble system.
How much bigger does the sun get when it expands to the red giant phase?
Is the Ash Twin Project actually I side Ash Twin? What I mean is, if you enable no-clipping, can you go through the crust of Ash Twin to see the Project?
Yep!
@@TheLoreExplorer neat!
How long is the probe? Trying to do some nerd math with impact forces
In the slide reels, specifically the first one by River Lowlands, you can see Giant's Deep and the ringed gas giant at the same time, and the ringed gas giant looks about the same size or slightly smaller than Giant's deep.
Yeah. But the same reel shows the stranger, home moon, and timber hearth to be around the same size as well. And when you see the stranger we know its bigger than that. The scale in reels cant be relied upon too much. With that said. Thats still my guess. Two gas giants being relatively similar makes sense.
@@TheLoreExplorer While the stranger was most likely made smaller on the screen to avoid it looking weird, the larger things like most of the planets looked pretty close to scale. The relative sizes of Giant's deep and the blue gas giant looked similar to the relative sizes between Jupiter and Saturn.
Edit: I was confused.
just how much materials did the nomai use up??????
Is the eye of the universe bigger than the sun?
The ringed planet should be called hades
you forgot the interloper
Amazing....
Thanks a lot 😊 And thanks to Xen as well
anyone else looked away at 6:12 to see if the quantum moon disappeared? 💀💀💀
Hey man I really like your videos but you don’t seem to cover any other games. Such as their lore etc… I really would like to see you grow further and I feel changing it up a bit would help.
I’ve tried to cover other games. I have a whole subnautica series and I tried one on a game called Claire de Lune. They haven’t done all that well. I’m sure I’ll cover other games in the future though. It’s just discouraging knowing your views go from 2-3k to 700-1k.
@@TheLoreExplorer ya that’s understandable hopefully there’s a good game that comes out that you can cover. I’ll recommend some if I come across any. 👍
wait so how big is the eye lol
What’s the ringed planet?
Excuse me but.. The eye of the universe!? Where is it? :'(
Xen said it was hard to work with. Its basically in its own scene. So Im guessing it was an issue with that. We also kind of wanted to show the internal of bramble. As well as the simulation. But it was too difficult.
@@TheLoreExplorer I was wondering that too because I thought I had gotten it working, so that's very strange! It's supposed to be in the empty spot before the vessel. I'll have to correct that before I release the mod
@@TheLoreExplorer Yeah, you load into a new level when you engage the Vessel's warp drive - you can spot the loading icon in the bottom right if you pay attention. Another clue is that the Sun just looks like a orange dot in space with less detail compared to when you just fly away from the solar system normally.
so you cant take the ship to the ringed gas giant?? shame..
No eye of the universe :c
is there a link to download the mod?
How come the eye isnt included?
The modder said it was hard to work with. They also said it should have been there but for some reason didnt show up.
nomai outer wilds
guys what on earth is the ring planet
Its part of the dlc!
@@TheLoreExplorer oh okay! I hadn't played it and from what people said it seemd like the 'stranger' is the only thing that gets added in the dlc
Its sort of confusing. The stranger is the only thing added to the solar system! And we dont get to visit any new system or anything. But the ringed planet is indeed in the dlc! Such mystery! lol
Owls’ gas planet is much bigger, when you fly about 2 kms on nomai shuttle it gets not so bigger th-cam.com/video/FGQMAscH9X0/w-d-xo.html (it gets bigger, so, I gues, devs remember what you can fly where)