You ever played any Persona games before? If not id highly recommend giving them a go :) ive only played 5 and 4 myself and working my way through 3 but they are really really good if you are into Turn Based JRPG's :)
HMK : Nintendo give Joker a gun !!! Mii Gunner : my name have a gun. Snake : good things rpg Mortar Bomb and C4 don't count. Rockman : Ummm. Samus : ... Fox : I don't know. Bayonetta : So what. a gun ?
How are ya, HMK ? Just wanted to say I dig the video game reactions. LOL man you're hilarious. I have both a Nintendo Switch AND PS4, and sadly I spend more time on PS4 lately. Since I have Elder Scrolls Online, I spend a lot of time on it. I may get BACK into Smash Ultimate, sometime. Have been working on a fishing achievement of a sort on ESO - which is a royal pain in the butt. Have a great one.
@@thecrumpington5468 MAJOR PERSONA 5 SPOILERS IN LAST SECTION!! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. because if you're willing to go through the trouble of leveling him up and getting high tier skill cards in persona 5, he's an absolute monster. The process is extremely tedious, but some might say it's well worth it. MAJOR PERSONA 5 SPOILERS IN NEXT SECTION! If you want a canon reason for why he would have "the best potential" here's why. At the end of P5 story, Joker breaks the chains binding Arsene, and he transforms to Joker's ultimate persona, Satanael. He resists all types of damage, absorbs Curse damage and Nulls bless damage, and has access to the best passive move in the game, Victory Cry. Furthermore, his starting stats are better than any other persona. Plus he kills god when nothing else could, so that's neat.
@@thecrumpington5468 I'm actually not sure about the moves he can learn through skill cards, but I'm pretty certain that because he's the only persona that begins at level 1, you can get the best stats for him through gallows fusion. Tbh I think it's next to useless because of personas like Yoshitsune and Satanael, but you get the point.
Well, in Sma5h, the move isn't called "Model Gun", it's called "Gun". So unless you're really up on your P5 lore, Joker's got a gun. (Also, Bayonetta's DLC for Sm4sh was rated T for Teen)
@@aaron_sul Because Bayonetta's guns are less realistic than Joker's, and her overly fancy animations, in addition to having two guns on her feet, makes it hard to take it seriously. Meanwhile, Joker holds a realistic looking gun the way actual people would. Also, there's something funny about Joker's Neutral Special's name just being Gun.
Eiha and Eigaon are technically Curse-element. In the Persona series (and SMT as a whole), Darkness is one of the two instant-kill elements (along with Light).
It's not the worst Persona in the game, the guy that was talking didn't put the effort in to level it up. Stat - growth wise, Arsen is viable all the way to the final boss. You just have to give it new skills from other Personas.
@@shadow98004 see, that's what I always thought. Arsene is the first Persona you get. Obviously, Arsene should be a weak Persona with some of the best gains if done right.
@@martymcfly1312 well Steve's kinda deconformered one of the workers at mojang was confused about it and said it's most likely not going to happen not to mention when a character gets in smash every worker has to know bout it cause it's important that the entire company needs to be aware of it also if Steve's getting in which I hope doesn't happen why is one of the worker confused about it also there's a lot of evidence for banjo like duck hunt dog corrupting save files cause his data's been modified spirits that resembles blast corps and jet force Gemini in the files a quiz theme boss also in the files and more
"all Persona games" _bangs his head against a wall_ You DO realise no series just starts from 3, right? Or do you work for Atlus and pretend they can as well?
Azur3Phoenix you do realize that Joker has pallet swaps that represents the color themes of Persona 1 & 2 confirmed so yes Zeph is right ALL Persona games were acknowledged right???
@@TheGamingAngel18 I only saw the 2 costumes in the trailer along with the Persona 3 and 4 costumes and music. I saw nothing on Persona 1 and 2 in this trailer. So if it was outside of this trailer, then sorry I didn't see. So no, I did not realise. My apologies.
Now the question is...who's next and when will they announce them?....still hoping for Shantae, if not this go round then maybe with the next one. It seems a little like they want to go the route of other popular fighting games and have multiple character season releases, like Tekken 7 and SF5..and Tekken 7 managed a lot of those.
@@saggyhaggis That is a fannon theory, there is no official confirmation by Nintendo or Sakurai that says a Spirit excludes that character from being a DLC character, in fact if you look many of the player characters have Spirits that aren't the ones you get from an arcade run.
"Arsene's the worst persona in the game" Cloud's Buster Sword would like to have a word with you. "Tails deconfirmed! Tails deconfirmerd!" BTW, how're Geno, Majora, and Waluigi doing right now? XD
Who said Arsene is the weakest Persona in the game? Maybe if P5 used P4 or P3's Fusion mechanics, but with the ability to kill your other Personas and pass skills onto another Persona, Arsene can be just as OP as any other high tier Persona, and you can always boost his stats with Daily activities and items.
2:00 Persona 3 lol and yeah you're right poor snake he doesn't get guns but Joker in Bayonetta does lol 😂 also for anyone who owns a PS4 hasn't played Persona 5 give this game a chance it's really good I highly recommend you listen to the music it will blow you away
@@ChaosRipper correction, its a toy pistol but in the world of momentos and inside the palaces the cognition of those inside theem see the weapons as real thus effectively making all of those firearms the gang uses actual legitmate weapons so long as they are inside momentos or a palace......... learn to brush up on ur P5 knowledge before saying shit like that fam
I mean, that'd mean entering the legal minefield that is Disney. I like Sora and feel that he'd be a perfect fit for Smash, but it probably wouldn't be worth it.
Disney said they are cool with it as long as Nomura is (keep in mind Nomura even said that if a character of his is ever in Sakurais hands again like it was with Cloud. he has faith they'd be able to represent them well and would even allow them to do whatever they wanted.) HMK even did a video where he personally asked Disney and they confirmed they are ok with it.
Meteornome yeah that’s all well and true but take it with a grain of salt because it’s not like he literally talked with the CEO of Disney or whatever at the end of the day, one person does not represent the whole company after all
We getting Banjo, Professor Layton, Amaterasu, Zeraora, Papyrus, and Sora's not planned. How do I know? My uncles nephews baby mama's cat works at nintendo
When it comes out on Switch, I'd wager. It'd be dumb for Atlus not to do it as I've heard many people say that with Joker in Smash, they'd play it on Switch if it ever happens. And supposedly, Atlus will reveal it later this month.
@@rob1610 I'm not saying P5 on switch is bad (hell it's like 100 hours minimum please god do it) but I think its ridiculous to not play it if you already have a PS4 and the time to play it. (Also I mean if you wanna do an all day stream, Persona games are super good at that)
@@KreativAce Fair call. I have Persona 5 on PS4 myself that I still need to finish. But if the rumours are true, it'll be worth the wait. Persona 5 Royal is said to be P5's Golden (same game with new content, I mean) coming exclusively to PS4. And what if Atlus do the same as Square Enix are with Dragon Quest XI? I'm currently rushing through the PS4 version of DQXI since the Switch version will have Switch exclusive features. What if the same will happen to a Switch port of Persona 5? Basically, either way, it's good for HMK to wait.
Sadly a lot of people didn't play Persona 1 and 2 (the West only receive one half of 2) either from low sales or they didn't produce that many units. And honestly didn't get noticed until the psp remake much later
I know it's from Persona 3! LoL slip of the tongue! My bad!
You ever played any Persona games before? If not id highly recommend giving them a go :) ive only played 5 and 4 myself and working my way through 3 but they are really really good if you are into Turn Based JRPG's :)
You were clearly too excited. And for good reason!
HMK : Nintendo give Joker a gun !!!
Mii Gunner : my name have a gun.
Snake : good things rpg Mortar Bomb and C4 don't count.
Rockman : Ummm.
Samus : ...
Fox : I don't know.
Bayonetta : So what. a gun ?
How are ya, HMK ? Just wanted to say I dig the video game reactions. LOL man you're hilarious. I have both a Nintendo Switch AND PS4, and sadly I spend more time on PS4 lately. Since I have Elder Scrolls Online, I spend a lot of time on it. I may get BACK into Smash Ultimate, sometime. Have been working on a fishing achievement of a sort on ESO - which is a royal pain in the butt. Have a great one.
“Worst Persona in the game? “
Me: Um excuse me but my lvl 99 Arsene would like a word with you HMK
My lvl 99 with black viper, and buffs too
Which build? Almighty or Curse?
Is that you Dism?
People who call Arsene the worst persona in the game just don't know how to optimize a build for him. Tis a shame.
Yes i know. I love how he looks so i wanted to make him a beast and now he is
Right?
He's not great. Sorry I think he's cool too but it's just fact.
Benny Boi but to call him the worst is unjustified
Ignister Prominence, The Blasting Dracoslayer I mean I guess but you can very much do get through the game without Arsene
"It's the weakest persona in the game"
Yes, but it does have the best potential
Just like the Fool Arcana.
They've probably just never made an optimal build for him. He's sick if you actually decide to put in the effort to make him a beast.
@@justsomeguy727 I'm going to do that when I buy the game.
@@thecrumpington5468 MAJOR PERSONA 5 SPOILERS IN LAST SECTION!! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
because if you're willing to go through the trouble of leveling him up and getting high tier skill cards in persona 5, he's an absolute monster. The process is extremely tedious, but some might say it's well worth it.
MAJOR PERSONA 5 SPOILERS IN NEXT SECTION!
If you want a canon reason for why he would have "the best potential" here's why.
At the end of P5 story, Joker breaks the chains binding Arsene, and he transforms to Joker's ultimate persona, Satanael. He resists all types of damage, absorbs Curse damage and Nulls bless damage, and has access to the best passive move in the game, Victory Cry. Furthermore, his starting stats are better than any other persona.
Plus he kills god when nothing else could, so that's neat.
@@thecrumpington5468 I'm actually not sure about the moves he can learn through skill cards, but I'm pretty certain that because he's the only persona that begins at level 1, you can get the best stats for him through gallows fusion.
Tbh I think it's next to useless because of personas like Yoshitsune and Satanael, but you get the point.
arsene is the weakest persona *unless* you min-max him via sacrifice
It's a model* gun the game explains that very clearly
Its a Model Gun, Akechi uses toy Ray Guns.
I wonder how many people actually know it's a model gun...
I don't get why everyone is freaking out. Bayonetta has 4 guns.
Well, in Sma5h, the move isn't called "Model Gun", it's called "Gun". So unless you're really up on your P5 lore, Joker's got a gun.
(Also, Bayonetta's DLC for Sm4sh was rated T for Teen)
@@aaron_sul Because Bayonetta's guns are less realistic than Joker's, and her overly fancy animations, in addition to having two guns on her feet, makes it hard to take it seriously.
Meanwhile, Joker holds a realistic looking gun the way actual people would.
Also, there's something funny about Joker's Neutral Special's name just being Gun.
"Its persona 2 and 4"
You mean 3 and 4?
He's clearly too excited to think.
has this guy played any persona game before hmmmmmmm
Eiha and Eigaon are technically Curse-element. In the Persona series (and SMT as a whole), Darkness is one of the two instant-kill elements (along with Light).
_sees Persona 3 and 4 music_
YESSSSS!
_doesn't see Burn My Dread_
.....dammit. xD
Buuurn my breeeeaaaaaddd
RIP
I ONCE RAN AWAY FROM THE GOD OF FEAR, AND HE CHAINED ME TO DESPAIR, YEAH
I'm hyped for Joker and all...but I really want to see Kirby jump about with that gun.
B-Bayonetta..?
@@Jonas_TGCW Bayonetta doesn't hold her guns like a gangsta doing pirouettes mid air.
@@HappyPotat Well... True.
Yo am I hearing a Beneath the Mask remix????
"Newcomers don't get more than one fighter!"
*coughs in Belmont*
_1:29_
_"Worst persona in the game"_
_I'm disappointed no one knows the hidden strat.._
"You must be tired, why don't you go to sleep?"
Don't
Jigglypuff:Hey! That's my line!
1:23 Oh, I never actually knew that. So is _that_ why Ryuji says "Can't you use a more powerful Persona?" earlier in the trailer? Wow. xD
It's not the worst Persona in the game, the guy that was talking didn't put the effort in to level it up. Stat - growth wise, Arsen is viable all the way to the final boss. You just have to give it new skills from other Personas.
@@shadow98004 see, that's what I always thought. Arsene is the first Persona you get. Obviously, Arsene should be a weak Persona with some of the best gains if done right.
@@shadow98004 _Any_ persona is viable if you put enough effort into it. In a "normal" playthrough you typically get rid of him early on.
Arsene isn't bad but we can't expect Satanael to show up
I'm actually pretty pissed Life Will Change is not one of the songs. Still.... HYPE!
They could add more in future
Same, I saw that and was like WTF? But at least Rivers in a Desert made it in.
I was hoping for Blooming Villain, but I’m happy we’re getting P3 and P4 music as well.
@@muffetmissulena6540 Oh damn I forgot about Blooming Villain, Willpower would have been cool as well.
I really wanted the whims of fate, but DTILL HYPE
Never have I been more excited to suck at Smash. Mementos'll make my lack of skill worth the hassle! XD
What do we need to make joker more more powerful. Gun. PERFECT
Did you forget about Bayonetta's gun(s) lmao. She literally has four guns
Sora: Come on Nintendo when's it my turn to join smash bros I know I make a good addition
Or better yet banjo kazooie please happen
@@mrps2dvd2770 sora: oh come on
Sadly it seems like Steve from Minecraft is more likely than Sora or Banjo.
@@kingsora7977 I would like to see sora but banjo's my most requested character period not to mention banjo hasn't done anything in 10 years
@@martymcfly1312 well Steve's kinda deconformered one of the workers at mojang was confused about it and said it's most likely not going to happen not to mention when a character gets in smash every worker has to know bout it cause it's important that the entire company needs to be aware of it also if Steve's getting in which I hope doesn't happen why is one of the worker confused about it also there's a lot of evidence for banjo like duck hunt dog corrupting save files cause his data's been modified spirits that resembles blast corps and jet force Gemini in the files a quiz theme boss also in the files and more
That Beneath The Mask remix is so good.
yeah man I actually was surprised they remixed it. I thought if they where gonna do a remix then it would rivers in the desert or last surprise.
It was fun watching this live with ya. Loved the rest of the stream to.
I'm still crossing my fingers for Sora and Banjo to be the next ones!
ZeldaGrossmeister 12:06
Well, both of your wishes came true
Joker and Bayonetta are literally the only Stand users in Super Smash Bros Ultimate.
Jotaro, Joker and Bayonetta all have black hair. _This is not a coincidence._
For some reason I wanna see Sora get beat up by Joker's Final Smash. #Sora4Smash
no one was this wild when they gave tetra a gun in hyrule warriors
Man, my heart would explode if Geralt of Rivia got in Smash.
I don't think it will happen since he originated from books
Soul Calibur already claimed his soul.
@@ExiletheJedi and that series is not restricted to video game characters only. Like Darth vader was even a playable character in soul calibur iv
Now we await for sora, scorpion, and jin for the next character pack
Who else is gonna make a Twilight Town stage in customs?
I mean... Bayonette has guns too
At least all Persona games were acknowledged. Plus P3 and P4 music makes me hype
"all Persona games"
_bangs his head against a wall_
You DO realise no series just starts from 3, right? Or do you work for Atlus and pretend they can as well?
Azur3Phoenix you do realize that Joker has pallet swaps that represents the color themes of Persona 1 & 2 confirmed so yes Zeph is right ALL Persona games were acknowledged right???
@@TheGamingAngel18 I only saw the 2 costumes in the trailer along with the Persona 3 and 4 costumes and music. I saw nothing on Persona 1 and 2 in this trailer. So if it was outside of this trailer, then sorry I didn't see. So no, I did not realise. My apologies.
Azur3Phoenix I was just referencing the costumes
Zeph I repeat, if it was outside this trailer I didn’t see it. So yeah, sorry if I was a little harsh.
“They actually gave him a gun!”
Bayonetta: am I a joke to you?
Exactly! And why does Snake's real NIKITA and grenade launcher not count as guns?
2:00 yea Mass Distrucsen is 100% from p2 and not p3
The cheering from people in the other room made it
I mean, bayonetta has guns too so I don't know why him having a gun is so surprising
This was an amazing Birthday present 😭
1:49 *thats tuff* 😂😂😂😂
They giving joker VIP treatment
Now the question is...who's next and when will they announce them?....still hoping for Shantae, if not this go round then maybe with the next one. It seems a little like they want to go the route of other popular fighting games and have multiple character season releases, like Tekken 7 and SF5..and Tekken 7 managed a lot of those.
Shantea is a spirit. :(
@@saggyhaggis That is a fannon theory, there is no official confirmation by Nintendo or Sakurai that says a Spirit excludes that character from being a DLC character, in fact if you look many of the player characters have Spirits that aren't the ones you get from an arcade run.
GUN
"Arsene's the worst persona in the game"
Cloud's Buster Sword would like to have a word with you.
"Tails deconfirmed! Tails deconfirmerd!"
BTW, how're Geno, Majora, and Waluigi doing right now? XD
Bayoneta has guns
On her feet.
Joker's gun is fine because it's technically not a real gun.
...TECHNICALITY!! :D
You get it
Also I imagine it being cartoon violence is a little bit easier for the censors
"Sexualizing this underage-looking character is fine because she's technically 1000 years old."
@@Gnarfledarf what are you talking about?
We can finally use the touchscreen in Smash
when you taunt morgana show up
morgana : go to sleep
But I felt like doing some homework
I wish I had the fighter pass and piranha plant
I’m gonna be slurping up everyone’s DPS as this man when I go into Rebel’s Guard
So now that joker has a gun, we can finally get James bond in smash
1:08 Well, this is the closest thing we'll get to stands
10:19 cough* chrom mii costume and playable chrom cough*
"Now you can shitpost on the go!"
He said final form frieza confirmed lol
Where is sora
He is coming
Xoesmt Arsène learn every skill cards in the p5 game?
Yeah when using skill cards or sacrificing a Persona
He can, yes
Yeah, betting that Pack 2 may be teased or revealed during E3, and it might release in early July.
1:09 Yeah it actually is a stand because persona 100% copied the idea of stands from jojo that was already out at the time. It's not a coincidence.
Who said Arsene is the weakest Persona in the game? Maybe if P5 used P4 or P3's Fusion mechanics, but with the ability to kill your other Personas and pass skills onto another Persona, Arsene can be just as OP as any other high tier Persona, and you can always boost his stats with Daily activities and items.
Looking cool Joker! And we got Rivers in the Desert!
Guess I just found my new main
Indeed, nobody saw this coming
NOOO WHERE IS LIFE WILL CHANGE
I'm actually using Arsene in every boss battle in the game and not once have I ever gotten a game over.
I wish for Sora will be next!!
bruh he gave kirby a gun
2:00 Persona 3 lol and yeah you're right poor snake he doesn't get guns but Joker in Bayonetta does lol 😂 also for anyone who owns a PS4 hasn't played Persona 5 give this game a chance it's really good I highly recommend you listen to the music it will blow you away
Well the difference is, snake would use a REAL gun as bayonetta uses magic guns and Joker uses a BB gun
@@ChaosRipper correction, its a toy pistol but in the world of momentos and inside the palaces the cognition of those inside theem see the weapons as real thus effectively making all of those firearms the gang uses actual legitmate weapons so long as they are inside momentos or a palace......... learn to brush up on ur P5 knowledge before saying shit like that fam
Im interested in "Kong Island"
But can we upload Smash videos directly to TH-cam?
hmk san whould that mean sora has a chance to join smash
Morris Collier I think it’s obvious they got some tricks up their sleeves based off of joker alone lol
I mean, that'd mean entering the legal minefield that is Disney. I like Sora and feel that he'd be a perfect fit for Smash, but it probably wouldn't be worth it.
Disney said they are cool with it as long as Nomura is (keep in mind Nomura even said that if a character of his is ever in Sakurais hands again like it was with Cloud. he has faith they'd be able to represent them well and would even allow them to do whatever they wanted.) HMK even did a video where he personally asked Disney and they confirmed they are ok with it.
Meteornome yeah that’s all well and true but take it with a grain of salt because it’s not like he literally talked with the CEO of Disney or whatever at the end of the day, one person does not represent the whole company after all
Have you played Persona 5 HMK?
Mans really disrespected Arsene saying he's the worst Persona in the game.
i got a shoutout in hmks video WHAT! 8:24
Guys, I think they gave him a gun.
Arsene weakest? I think not
Mii fighter costumes reconfirm nothing, there are costumes for existing characters
Sweet I wonder when the update will be here I bought all the fighters pass's
Tomorrow
@@jmeister7482 ty 😁
@@lunarrainbow2501 No problem :D
He's got a gun Snake feeling salty
"And know This. This is not even their Final Forms"
Are we going to Ignore the Fact that Nintendo made a Dragon Ball Z Reference!?
@@jmeister7482 I was thinking the same thing
Never quite understood why people got so worked up over the fact that Joker has a gun. It's like Bayonetta and her FOUR guns don't exist.
But that dude that was a full minute ahead and kept just shouting about stuff they didn't see yet.
Giving Joker a gun and not Snake? Hypocrite much? Also, no direct until E3 cause this came out of NOWHERE.
I guess you could say...
You never saw it coming
Don't worry...Whisper: It's actually a toy gun. ;)
Snake has the damn Nikita. Why do people ignore Nikita like it isn't a BIG ASS BAZOOKA, which is arguably more violent than a gun. Lmao
We getting Banjo, Professor Layton, Amaterasu, Zeraora, Papyrus, and Sora's not planned.
How do I know?
My uncles nephews baby mama's cat works at nintendo
Seems legit
Fake, because it doesn't include Waluigi.
Don't worry everyone it's a bebegun, still family friendly.(no joke its really a toy)
This is going be Awsome!
HMK needs to play P5 BADLY
Didn't they give bayonetta her guns?
Confirmed Busted
Persona 3...
When are you gonna play Persona 5 on stream dad
When it comes out on Switch, I'd wager. It'd be dumb for Atlus not to do it as I've heard many people say that with Joker in Smash, they'd play it on Switch if it ever happens. And supposedly, Atlus will reveal it later this month.
@@rob1610 I'm not saying P5 on switch is bad (hell it's like 100 hours minimum please god do it) but I think its ridiculous to not play it if you already have a PS4 and the time to play it. (Also I mean if you wanna do an all day stream, Persona games are super good at that)
@@KreativAce Fair call. I have Persona 5 on PS4 myself that I still need to finish. But if the rumours are true, it'll be worth the wait. Persona 5 Royal is said to be P5's Golden (same game with new content, I mean) coming exclusively to PS4. And what if Atlus do the same as Square Enix are with Dragon Quest XI? I'm currently rushing through the PS4 version of DQXI since the Switch version will have Switch exclusive features. What if the same will happen to a Switch port of Persona 5? Basically, either way, it's good for HMK to wait.
3:03 cuz you'd never see it coming...
why don't they ever mention persona 1 or 2 is it because of Hitler in the games
Sadly a lot of people didn't play Persona 1 and 2 (the West only receive one half of 2) either from low sales or they didn't produce that many units. And honestly didn't get noticed until the psp remake much later
Lol that shit always gets me. They acknowledged P1 and P2 with the outfits
Snake has a rocket launcher what you mean
I’d love to play as a door
Also waiting for MK11.
Someone should put a tax on the word "dope". It would be very profitable.
Smash is the new TH-cam
Just finished watching it it's amazing.
The game needs to release on the switch so that nintendo fans can actually know his character and moves lol.
JmBrave10 you haven’t seen the Best Buy leaks that confirmed P5 for the Switch?
Has people forgotten that Bayonetta has had her guns with her since Smash 4 or what?
Im manning joker O-O
*They gave him a gun*
damn, no Satanael