RST Demo of the New RST Race Dept V4.1 Kangroo Airbag One Piece Leathers
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- RST Demo of the New RST Race Dept V4.1 Kangroo Airbag One Piece Leathers RRP £899.99
In&Motion Airbag Technology, which features an airbag built right into the suit.
Available to order now at: www.thevisorsh...
The subscription requirement is a joke. So is the "algorithm updates" sales pitch to try and justify it. RST would run away with the market if there was no subscription and the user could recharge the airbag vest himself like with what Helite offers.
the subscription is with Inmotion all the main manufacturers are using Inmotion technology so will have a subscription fee. its still a cheaper priced option when compared to the like's of Dianese or Alpinestars. for example the RST is £899.99 with a Free 12 month subscription after which its pay as you go ie pay per month so if you are not using it over the winter you simply stop paying. A Dianese suit is £1500+ to purchase. If the RST suit goes off its £90 to reset the suit. After 3 inflation's it has to be sent to RST in the UK for inspection with a turn around of approx 1 week. Dianese is approx £400 to reset per inflation and has to be shipped back to italy which can take a number of weeks. Which meets your needs best is for the consumer to decide both have their pros and cons.
I agree see my comment above...
The Visor Shop had a good point about overall cost and service schedule in their reply to me below. I sold my Helite race vest only because I don’t like the tether. My Alpinestar Tech vest is intermittent and I just took a very ventilating slide. I like RST and will look closer after the explanation. Thank-you.
I thought Helite seemed to be better with neck protection, he seemed to have a lot head movement after deployment . The subscription puts a downer on it though.
the airbag significantly reduces the movement of the neck and across the collarbone area once deployed. please note this was a demo suit that was the incorrect size for the person wearing it. All motorcycle protective wear clothing and helmet are designed to keep the rider safer and more comfortable both riding and also in the event of an accident. All of the protection reduces the chance of serious injury or worse but can’t eliminate it. In most countries of the world the only legally required protection is a helmet, however every additional item of quality CE approved clothing will increase the level of safety and are graded A or AA or AAA. The introduction of airbag technology ramps that level of protection up further, however won’t eliminate injury 100%. The question the customer has to decide is what investment they wish to put into a good quality helmet and clothing to minimize that risk. the subscription is with Inmotion all the main manufacturers are using Inmotion technology so will have a subscription fee. its still a cheaper priced option when compared to the like's of Dianese or Alpinestars. for example the RST is £899.99 with a Free 12 month subscription after which its pay as you go ie pay per month so if you are not using it over the winter you simply stop paying. A Dianese suit is £1500+ to purchase. If the RST suit goes off its £90 to reset the suit. After 3 inflation's it has to be sent to RST in the UK for inspection with a turn around of approx 1 week. Dianese is approx £400 to reset per inflation and has to be shipped back to italy which can take a number of weeks. Which meets your needs best is for the consumer to decide both have their pros and cons. we also have the Helite Turtle jacket on a special offer of 29% off at the moment with limited stock levels if you are interested in one. link attached www.thevisorshop.com/SearchResults.aspx?Search=helite+turtle&SortBy=DiscountDESC
Having to have a subscription is a bit of a scam in my book.
the subscription is with Inmotion all the main manufacturers are using Inmotion technology so will have a subscription fee. its still a cheaper priced option when compared to the like's of Dianese or Alpinestars. for example the RST is £899.99 with a Free 12 month subscription after which its pay as you go ie pay per month so if you are not using it over the winter you simply stop paying. A Dianese suit is £1500+ to purchase. If the RST suit goes off its £90 to reset the suit. After 3 inflation's it has to be sent to RST in the UK for inspection with a turn around of approx 1 week. Dianese is approx £400 to reset per inflation and has to be shipped back to italy which can take a number of weeks. Which meets your needs best is for the consumer to decide both have their pros and cons.
I hear what your saying and RST make nice leathers But if A stars and dainese can make a airbag without a monthly subscription why can’t Inmotion?
I actually own the techair Race and techair 5 vest I use both for street riding only, Plus I didn’t want
to be to be relying on a gps signal like Dainese use.
Inmotion had the perfect opportunity to kill the opposition with this set up.
But I think most will bork at the subscription.
As for the canister being cheaper it’s a good point but I’m not really planning on crashing.
I wear the airbag just in case something does happen as I’m in my mid 60s.
Before I purchased the techair Race vest I looked at this in a stand alone vest but thought
I’m not interested in paying for a subscription so I went with A-Stars.
If the cost of the RST was a one of payment I would definitely purchase this suit even if it
Cost a bit more.
@@agro6821 there is "lifetime" buy out of the box if you wont stick with the 3-years subscription
@@agro6821 u can just buy it anyways for 399€ if u dont want subscription
Does the air bag cover the lower back as well?
That is briliant!
I am interested in this suit, but am unsure as to what size i should go with. I am 5'11 and 170 lbs. Which size would you recommend?
How long does it take to deflate?
I thought it only stayed inflated in demo mode?
Does the protection extend to the coccyx base of spine ?
Hey, are the shoulders fully protected? How much the recharge cost? Thanks
Recharge cylinder costs around 100€
Great video! I am considering buying this suit. However, I am worried about GPS connectivity i.e. If I am wearing this suit with the airbag, going through a tunnel without any GPS signal and I get into an accident in the tunnel, and no GPS, would the airbag protect me? Would it activate in this scenario?
The In&motion box itself holds algorithms embedded in its "brain" and includes sensors so that within 60 milliseconds the airbag is inflated. The Box analyses things 1000 times every second and does not need GPS to protect.
@@thevisorshopcrossanmotorcy9996 Thank you for the answer!
As a race marshal
How the hell do we deflate them especially if we've got broken limbs etc ??
they deflate automatically a few seconds after the impact similar to an airbag in a car. you will hear the air being leaking out of it slowly and controlled
@@thevisorshopcrossanmotorcy9996 we have one of these suits for racing it has went off twice and on both occasion the airbag never deflated, we had some job trying to unscrew the gas canister while the rider was still in the suit, have you any ideas if we are doing something wrong? Cheers
@@joephillips5477 i spoke to RST about this the suit will not deflate you are doing things correct in the best way is to unscrew the canister. if the rider is hurt you can if possible zip the suit open reach in and puncture the airbags bladder, dont rip the blue fabric as the bladder can be replaced but the fabric cant. the reason they dont come with a bung etc to deflate it is it would cause a weak spot in the suit and it would not pass CE conformity.
Hi Neil; thanks so much for all your work as a marshal!
We have this issue a lot (I'm a race doc), and have been talking with manufactures, ACU etc about it.
There are two different protocols (I've arbitrarily numbered them):
1. inflates, then gradually deflates nearly completely;
2. inflates, then gradually deflates by 10-20%, but effectively remains 'up' for further protection.
Protocol 2 is required for street riding, and for the TT etc (as it offers some protection against secondary impacts).
Protocol 1 is only available for closed circuits, and often requires production of an ACU licence to prove why you need it.
The issue arises with protocol 2, and is only medically a problem when the rider has minor to moderate injuries. (Whereas if they are uninjured, they can just wriggle themselves out of the suit, even while it's inflated. If they are seriously injured, obviously we just cut the suit off).
Minor to moderate injuries as you've stated, end up with a conscious rider with broken limbs (or even just a fractured arm etc), in too much pain to just pull the inflated suit off, but not wanting us to damage the suit by cutting them out of it.
As stated in another's comment (but does not apply to RST suits), when there is a cannister at the inside front, you can unzip the main zip, access the cannister, and unscrew it to deflate the airbag without damaging anything.
However In&Motion (who make the airbags used in RST and Ixon suits etc) have a gas (Argon mix) canister within the back protector panel, therefore it is not accessible by unzipping an inflated suit which a rider is wearing.
Therefore if all of the below are true:
1. Rider has minor-moderate injuries incompatible with wriggling themselves safely out of the suit, and obviously they're not seriously injured where the suit should be cut off (whether they protest or not)!
2. The airbag is one of the (more common) protocol which does not self-deflate almost completely
3. There is no cannister system available near the front (e.g. as seen in RST standard airbag suits)
Then we do the following (which is also as advised by the suit manufacturers):
1. Open the front zip
2. On either side (left or right), there is a horizontal overlap in the (e.g. RST blue) inside liner which you can easily spread open to see the actual airbag bladder
3. Carefully pierce the airbag bladder itself with a sharp object, ensuring rider & personnel are not at risk of injury when you do this.
If needed you can of course just deflate the airbag by any other means (e.g. using the sharp object carefully into the airbag yet going through the liner material, or even from the outside (not advised)!
The only reason for using the technique of opening & spreading the liner, is that only the airbag bladder itself is damaged with this method, rather than the suit. This may of course be irrelevant if the suit is badly damaged!
Hope that helps! This is not medical advice, just an explanation of what we currently do in medical rescue for TT/MGP/S100/BSB/BMCRC/NGRR/NLR etc.
It's a technique we've had to come up with (often having encountered the exact problem you described), and the manufacturers have said it's a reasonable procedure while we try to find a better way!
So you know, I do have a possible conflict of interest in that RST kindly sponsor my suits, and I have the exact suit shown in this video (or actually the factory spec version, custom-fitted), and ride with it every day, presently for about three hours a day!
Short of the story: it makes a lot of sense that the airbag remains quite inflated, but presently there's no easy way to deflate the airbag in the above situation without damaging the airbag. We've asked the manufacturers etc to keep working on this (hopefully they'll end up with a solution much like the cheekpads emergency release on motorbike helmets)!
Hope you have a good 2024 with the Orange Army! Thanks for all the hard, critical work you do! Cheers!
I’d like to see more shoulder and neck protection. The value is tremendous though. I may wait for v2 also I hate black leathers. So I’d like to see the suit in other colours.
Majority of air vest I have seen do not protect the neck. A neck brace would be needed with any vest to have adequate protection.
This RST vest seems to have better shoulder coverage than other popular brands
What about the pants
there are no airbag pants its not something that Brands have manufactured.
Why's he wearing a helmet? You can't hear a word he says lol
I was down for this until the subscription nonsense come up. Shame.
£12 a month subscription?! No thanks.
It is for your health.... this is low expensive
@@albertorosquete5779 they could just sell it to you outright instead of trying to lock you in forever. I don't see why it needs upgrades to algorithms?!
@@geoffwatches every time someone has a crash wearing an in&motion airbag the crash information is uploaded, so each time the algorithm updates the brains become better at detecting an accident. I've just got the ixon airbag vest because I wanted to be able to use it with different jackets without having to pay for numerous subscriptions, and buying all new kit.
You guys are great, but put me wallet back in me pocket at “subscription”…
its not for everyone but the subscription is with Inmotion all the main manufacturers are using Inmotion technology so will have a subscription fee. its still a cheaper priced option when compared to the like's of Dianese or Alpinestars. for example the RST is £899.99 with a Free 12 month subscription after which its pay as you go ie pay per month so if you are not using it over the winter you simply stop paying. A Dianese suit is £1500+ to purchase. If the RST suit goes off its £90 to reset the suit. After 3 inflation's it has to be sent to RST in the UK for inspection with a turn around of approx 1 week. Dianese is approx £400 to reset per inflation and has to be shipped back to italy which can take a number of weeks. Which meets your needs best is for the consumer to decide both have their pros and cons.
Neck is not protected...
Majority of air vest I have seen do not protect the neck. A neck brace would be needed with any vest to have adequate protection.
This RST vest seems to have better shoulder coverage than other popular brands.
@@comfortablyunknown700 Watch Helite
I was ready to buy this until you said 'subscription'. Although the initial cost seems affordable you're subscription is just a way to keep gouging. HOW THE FUCK YOU GONNA PUT A MONTHLY PRICE ON SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED? I'll look elsewhere for a replacement for my current airbag which works fine I just want one integrated into a suit or jacket. Evolve learn to approach your target market AND STOP TRYING TO GOUGE THEM... You'll get a whole hell of a lot more sales...
The subscription is with Inmotion all the main manufacturers are using Inmotion technology so will have a subscription fee. its still a cheaper priced option when compared to the like's of Dianese or Alpinestars. for example the RST top of the range suit is £999.99 with a Free 12 month subscription after which its pay as you go ie pay per month so if you are not using it over the winter you simply stop paying. A Dianese suit is £1500+ to purchase. If the RST suit goes off its £90 to reset the suit. After 3 inflation's it has to be sent to RST in the UK for inspection with a turn around of approx 1 week. Dianese is approx £400 to reset per inflation and has to be shipped back to italy which can take a number of weeks. Which meets your needs best is for the consumer to decide both have their pros and cons. we can chat to you in more detail about those by contacting clothing@crossan.co.uk
you can buy the box outright if you wish for approx £399 but it wont be updated inmotion are constantly updating and improving the technology with more and more riders using the technology there algorithms will only improve.
@@thevisorshopcrossanmotorcy9996 hm how much does sending cost to UK from EU after you are goin out of EU ^^ and how much trouble it will give ?
@@stxy4926 hi STXY we are Based in Northern Ireland we are still part of the Eu Customs union there is no additional tariffs or charges to pay. we haven't experienced any issues with them.