I rode this route to West Trenton years ago when I lived in Jersey. There’s always talk for many years that New Jersey Transit would bring back the West Trenton line that was discontinued in 1981. This is a line New Jersey transit needs to bring back and soon.
I’m a daily SEPTA rider and this video shows the exact reason why I don’t ride regional rail anymore. The reduced speeds make the train go extremely slow and it’s too expensive for that kind of slow and infrequent service. Also why weren’t the announcements playing?
When I lived in Delaware County years ago, SEPTA referred to their commuter trains as "High Speed Lines". What a joke! I never rode any of the ex-Reading lines, and while this one is a bit faster than the Elwyn line, it still runs (IMO) too slow in too many places. In my opinion, it's still a very shabby system when compared to the LIRR and other commuter lines I've tried. Thanks for the video.
It might interest you to know that at our meeting on Friday, I brought up our former rail line that used to connect with SEPTA at West Trenton. That line ended service in 1981. I pointed out that the climate for Federal funding is good now, certainly better than it was in the previous administration in Washington. Staff is well aware of that line, but informed me that it isn't a 'front burner' project at this time. But they claim to be making every effort to preserve the line intact for future restoration. They agree with the need and desire to restore service on the line. But they claim it's a matter of funding. Yes, more funds are available with Biden, but there are many projects on the drawing board fighting for a share of the funding. I requested that the line be brought back to the status of actively being discussed. They agreed, since I brought it up. I also discussed the Lackawanna Cut-off and where it currently stands. Staff told me that work continues on the line and the projection for service to begin is 2025. I was told that a lot more work than originally anticipated in Andover had to be done, but it's progressing nicely. There is also an issue with rock slides in places. So we should see trains on the line in about three years. www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=scrantonrail.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Lackawanna-Cut-off-Stations.png&imgrefurl=scrantonrail.com/restoring-the-lackawanna-cut-off-scranton/&h=2200&w=3400&tbnid=j5-u6DmStnivnM&q=Lackawanna+Cut+Off&tbnh=97&tbnw=150&usg=AI4_-kSepGmJCcIk_x9yJGlBLc-i-sStGA&vet=1&docid=-p3iIF0Lu5j_LM&client=firefox-b-ab&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj3rf-Xrov2AhUdoXIEHXtDDJ0Q9QF6BAgBEAQ
"Nice straight track". If I'm not mistaken, this was the right of way for the B&O express trains back in the day. Royal Blue zipped through here at very non-dawdling speeds!
lol, nice video but that has to be the slowest commuter train EVER! I thought the NY City subway was slow but that this was amazing. BUT, nice video and thanks for all you do.
What happens with your senior Key Card when you cross over into New Jersey at West Trenton? Or into Trenton on the NE Corridor or down into the stations in Delaware? Do they collect a half-fare from you? I personally never had the problem {back when I was well enough to ride around} I'd simply flash my NJT pass, which SEPTA and Amtrak honors. Those guys commute on our trains.
i wonder why the stations at Melrose have that big gap? was there a layover track there during the Reading days? Reading's Newtown Branch used to cut the diamonds right about Bethayres. The line north of Woodbourne is owned by CSX if i remember.
there used to be a pocket track to allow express, it's owned north of neshaminy falls by csx, but septa and csx have worked out a separation agreement for independent dispatching of the tracks
@@3985uprr probably after the N Philly stop…I’ve rode it on numerous occasions going to NY and I’ve found it to be painfully slow until it passes Holmesburg…
I rode this route to West Trenton years ago when I lived in Jersey. There’s always talk for many years that New Jersey Transit would bring back the West Trenton line that was discontinued in 1981. This is a line New Jersey transit needs to bring back and soon.
I used to live along this line. The train tracks were my backyard, down the embankment. ‘Between Somerton and Trevose.
I appreciated this bucolic and soothing video with late summer greenery on this 20th 9/11 anniversary!
Forest Hills is named for a cemetery about a quarter mile to the left. My parents are buried there, and I expect to be as well.
I’m a daily SEPTA rider and this video shows the exact reason why I don’t ride regional rail anymore. The reduced speeds make the train go extremely slow and it’s too expensive for that kind of slow and infrequent service. Also why weren’t the announcements playing?
The engineer has to type in the train ID into their keypad. If they don't the announcements don't work.
When I lived in Delaware County years ago, SEPTA referred to their commuter trains as "High Speed Lines". What a joke! I never rode any of the ex-Reading lines, and while this one is a bit faster than the Elwyn line, it still runs (IMO) too slow in too many places. In my opinion, it's still a very shabby system when compared to the LIRR and other commuter lines I've tried. Thanks for the video.
It might interest you to know that at our meeting on Friday, I brought up our former rail line that used to connect with SEPTA at West Trenton. That line ended service in 1981. I pointed out that the climate for Federal funding is good now, certainly better than it was in the previous administration in Washington. Staff is well aware of that line, but informed me that it isn't a 'front burner' project at this time. But they claim to be making every effort to preserve the line intact for future restoration. They agree with the need and desire to restore service on the line. But they claim it's a matter of funding. Yes, more funds are available with Biden, but there are many projects on the drawing board fighting for a share of the funding. I requested that the line be brought back to the status of actively being discussed. They agreed, since I brought it up.
I also discussed the Lackawanna Cut-off and where it currently stands. Staff told me that work continues on the line and the projection for service to begin is 2025. I was told that a lot more work than originally anticipated in Andover had to be done, but it's progressing nicely. There is also an issue with rock slides in places. So we should see trains on the line in about three years.
www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=scrantonrail.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Lackawanna-Cut-off-Stations.png&imgrefurl=scrantonrail.com/restoring-the-lackawanna-cut-off-scranton/&h=2200&w=3400&tbnid=j5-u6DmStnivnM&q=Lackawanna+Cut+Off&tbnh=97&tbnw=150&usg=AI4_-kSepGmJCcIk_x9yJGlBLc-i-sStGA&vet=1&docid=-p3iIF0Lu5j_LM&client=firefox-b-ab&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj3rf-Xrov2AhUdoXIEHXtDDJ0Q9QF6BAgBEAQ
"Nice straight track". If I'm not mistaken, this was the right of way for the B&O express trains back in the day. Royal Blue zipped through here at very non-dawdling speeds!
At 27:14 is where the Newtown line crossed on a diamond, coming from Fox Chase. It's now the Pennypack rail trail.
I'm quite sure that 306 runs express to Jenkintown and local to West Trenton, but not all Silverliner 5s run that service.
lol, nice video but that has to be the slowest commuter train EVER! I thought the NY City subway was slow but that this was amazing. BUT, nice video and thanks for all you do.
well you dont have 14 different lines using the same 4 tracks.
These "commuters' could have walked this route faster than this ...
Good videos keep up the good work,
Did. You do Pailoi. And. Thor dale line yet
The slowest line in the Septa system. Makes me want to get out and push every time I take it from Langhorne to Jefferson Station.
I believe the MAS is 70 on the line. In comparison to all the other lines topping out at 50-60 (minus the NEC lines and the Glenside main)
@@apr859 - Track speed on the Warminster Line is 40.
@@apr859 - The Doylestown line is 70 from Glenside to almost into North Wales.
You haven’t ridden many SEPTA lines if you think this is the slowest.
@@PhillyBagel I've got to admit you have me there. I've taken the Trenton line out of Bristol now and then. I'd hate to see the slowest, John. 😀
2:04 Temple University
7:55 Wayne Junction (SKIPPED)
11:54 Fern Rock Transportation Center
14:18 Melrose Park
16:03 Elkins Park
18:57 Jenkintown - Wyncote
21:53 Noble
23:31 Rydal
25:18 Meadowbrook
27:24 Bethayres
29:30 Philmont
31:45 Forest Hills
33:05 Somerton
35:39 Trevose
38:13 Neshaminy Falls
42:24 Langhorne
46:48 Woodbourne
57:37 Yardley
1:01:30 West Trenton
What happens with your senior Key Card when you cross over into New Jersey at West Trenton? Or into Trenton on the NE Corridor or down into the stations in Delaware? Do they collect a half-fare from you? I personally never had the problem {back when I was well enough to ride around} I'd simply flash my NJT pass, which SEPTA and Amtrak honors. Those guys commute on our trains.
Those over 65 ride free.
I don't know for sure but I'm thinking SEPTA would collect a fare for the part of the ride that's out of state. I'm going to test it some day.
i wonder why the stations at Melrose have that big gap? was there a layover track there during the Reading days? Reading's Newtown Branch used to cut the diamonds right about Bethayres. The line north of Woodbourne is owned by CSX if i remember.
there used to be a pocket track to allow express, it's owned north of neshaminy falls by csx, but septa and csx have worked out a separation agreement for independent dispatching of the tracks
Pls, can you do West Trenton to Suburban Station on the R1 line? I used to ride this for ten years. Pls.
If you're a fan of "The Goldbergs," Noble is even closer to Adam's childhood home than Jenkintown-Wyncote.
Hey Susan 😁💞💞
Septa’s regional rail service to Trenton is also agonizingly slow,almost to the point of being excruciating…
Oh, that train I rode a few weeks ago was moving pretty fast. They got close to 100 between stops.
@@3985uprr probably after the N Philly stop…I’ve rode it on numerous occasions going to NY and I’ve found it to be painfully slow until it passes Holmesburg…
I would hate if this were my commuter service. Good lord this is so slow
It’s looks slower than it is because I had the camera zoomed out.
These commuter trains sure are slow.
Zoom out makes it look slower than it is. Not my ideal way to do this