Are you Spiritual or Religious?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ค. 2024
- There are many people who claim to be spiritual but not religious in our world. I used to be like this, but now I see how important both are.
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"It's the 2nd Wednesday after a full moon in an odd numbered year, time to celebrate something you've never heard of!" I really felt that.
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I want the t-shirt that says “Religious AND spiritual”
Hi Father Casey. I can really relate to this. There was a ti.e in my life that I left the Church and described myself as spiritual but not religious. Then after a number of years I missed the Eucharist and returned to the Church. Now I am both - spiritual and religious.
Leave the church it’s garbage now
@@yeshuamyallPlease, don’t ever leave the Church. I will pray for you.
@@yeshuamyallwhat do you mean?
do you believe burning heretics alive is evil and against the will of God?
@@IamAnIdiot35 Catholic church did it all the time
This should be made available to all the RCIA folks! I've sent a link to our Parish' RCIA organizer. Thank you, as ever, Father Casey, you're a blessing to the flock!
lol you are nuts
"So I ask the Blessed Mary, ever virgin, all the Angels and the Saints, and you, my brothers and sisters, to pray for me to the Lord our God." The first time I truly reflected on these words is when I stopped feeling like an outsider in Church.
I’m both. My religion supersedes everything though and it is the reason that I’m still alive and well. In late 2021, I was diagnosed with rare aggressive cancer and given 7 months to live. In August 2022 I was placed on palliative care. I prayed and prayed. I leaned on my fav priest and my family doc who both advised me to get a second opinion. I got a second and third opinion. Second and third opinion doctors decided to work together to help me get better. Now the cancer has been obliterated and only remains in a small area. I continue to pray every day. I do the full rosary every day too. When I wake up my morning prayer is always gratitude to God for giving me another day.
Sending 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 for speedy/full recovery, for God everything is POSSIBLE
This is great, but also the spiritual part is great... Even when, at last, your time comes to leave this earth... Your journey only just begins, for our true kingdom is with God in heaven. 😊
God bless you
Wishing you a full recovery!
Hi father pls pray for me, I have an upcoming mock boards and board exam that will determine my future, my family is already in a very hard financial situation and I can't afford to fail, I'm doing my best in reviewing and doing novenas.. Your yt page gives me inspiration to be a better catholic :) Thank you for the upload 😅
May God grant you success and may what you seek find you, Amen
Praying for you💕God bless❤
May the Lord bless you and guide you with wisdom and understanding. May you be given peace and comfort during this trial in your life. May you be successful
Praying for you, brother!
My thoughts and prayers go with you!
Thank you Fr. for your "I hated the church" admission. How far a person comes is an indication of their "staying power".
This is exactly what happened in my life. I was an atheist, then started to be kinda agnostic, believing in "energy" and some new age stuff... but it was a road to h*ll. I started suffering, got depression, panic attacks, anxiety... So, I cried out to Jesus and my life started to change. My family is protestant, so I went to their church, but I still didn't feel fully christian. So, just for curiosity, I thought myself: what about catholics? And doing my own research and watching videos of ex-protestants that are catholics, I began to discover that everything protestants told me about The Church was not true! And, well, I was baptized when I was a baby in the Catholic Church (and never re-baptized). And, well, here I am, back Rome, I mean, Home. And I finally feel that the searching is over. I don't want to leave The Church.
God bless you, folks! 🙌
What made you cry out to Jesus? Do you think studying new age philosophy caused depression and anxiety?
I'm both, and searching for a church. I enjoy your videos about Catholicism.
My mom used to take me and my niece to the church while we were kids and I remember LOVING how beautiful churches look! It was a bit difficult to understand what the priest was saying but I do think many of the things he said stayed in our hearts. Now as adults facing many difficult situations our faith has helped enormously and I hope I can teach my kids the same when I have them💖
Deacons are the official ministers of the table of the Lord
This is a perfect talk I can share with my non-Catholic friends. Thank you, Father.
This echoes my journey from a Buddhist childhood to a New Atheist adolescence and back to a Buddhist adulthood. I’m still gonna be first to criticise institutions and ridiculous rules that get in the way of true faith piety, but the joy of ritual, tradition and community is something my younger self didn’t realise he wanted.
Well it comes down to anthropology, theology, and metaphysics.
Humanity is spiritual and embodied and we are individuals in communio, that is we are liminal creatures and not purely monads in our nature.
And also that yes, things are not as they are meant to be, but nothing is without purpose on the deepest level either, or else it would not be at all.
Some insights Fr. Casey
The young tend to be more spiritual but not religious on the other side Fr. There are older people who forgot the essence of spirituality they became religious only but not that spiritual.
That's really true
Thank you for the new content Father
It’s crazy how many of us have such a similar story. Thank you for sharing yours, Fr. Casey!
Wow Father. Great recent group of videos! May God Bless.
Thank you, Father Casey, for illustrating that "spirituality" and being "religious" are not states of being that are at odds with each other. Rather, one state enables the other. It all hinges on the way "religious" is , in common parlance, often equated with mindless preoccupation with rituals and legalism within a faith. Being religious is much more than that. It is a systematic way in which to orient the mind and heart to connect to spiritual realities. It is like an algorithm that facilitates our communion with the divine, in the way that the rules of grammar allow for us to communicate more coherently.
I hope he sees this comment, my feelings and experience, but I lack the words, @alphacause so I thank you!
@@auntyfluffy Thank you for the compliment. I am glad I was able to verbalize your sentiments.
Soo good father Casey ❤ this is so important for the church and for the people. I know so many of the spiritual and not religious types, started as one myself. We need the spritual to find religion AND the religious to find spirituality. Much love
Thank you, Fr. Casey. Everything you said makes so much sense. Peace!🙏🏻
Beautifully said and how I have been feeling this deep in my heart the last year.
Thank you for sharing this. It also makes me think about people I've known who belonged to a church or temple ONLY for the community, but didn't have any personal faith, which never made any sense to me. Everybody wants a sense of belonging, but you also have to think about what you're bringing to the group as an individual.
Dear Father Casey.
Bless you and your work for all of your life.
When I was a kid, me and my brother (we are NEARLY one year in age) would sort-of team up, when it was the big church days.
We actually were VERY strictly brought-up kids, who knew ALL about please, thank you, and when to shut up, but still, we WERE getting into mischief, every now and then.
I remember one Christmas thing at Church, where my brother started singing a.. NOT-so-nice version of the hymn, that we were singing.
I had NOT heard that one before, so I just sat there giggling.
Mom got ANGRY and seperated us.
Later on (I am now 56), I can easily understand why my mom didn't want to lose face in Church that evening!😂🤦♂️😖
But it HAS also helped me see hings in a broader perspective:
"What do our hymns SAY?"
"What is the purpose of Mass?"
And of course;
"Where does Christ want to TAKE us, and what do we have to DO?"
Another great video, Br Casey. Thank you!
Wonderful and beautiful reflection, Father.
Awesome. Brilliant content. God bless you Father Casey 🙏🙏🙏
Prayers and congratulations! 🙏🏻
Wow, father Casey, just wow. I have watched your videos, and you are very wise in what you say. It's like God is speaking directly through you. God bless you, and may the saints help and assist you in your religious and spiritual journey.
I always have conviction and can so relate to all of your videos. Thank you so much for saying “Yes”!
That's very interesting Father. That's exactly what I described in a comment I made just few seconds ago. And for my friend, I think he's getting himself to that conclusion, as now he's doing works for the church. While me... I think my path is still a long one. But I'm confident to trail it.
Excelent video Father Casey. I also got a similar experience; like you I thought I was too much for Church, but I was pretty wrong.
I can definity relate to this. Thanks Fr. Casey
Hi Fr. Casey, I love your approach to this and can relate to your experience in your teenage years. I also believe that a spiritual person will inevitably face God and thereby embrace or reject religion. Who can resist the love of God?
Keep up your good work!
Uplifting and beautiful testimony.
excellent video. thank you
I've been following you for a while and thank you for what you do.
I'd only ask you'd being back the older brother and react to Free Guy if you haven't yet.
Stay safe and well.
One of your best!
Reminds me of the time i asked why we always had to got church, but the church never comes to our home 😅 and now discerning religious life....
From the very start, an issue is acknowledged. Where I never knew what a preacher was talking about, which no one laid a foundation. Yet, a good conscience and doing right by others is part of it, very big part of it. But, like church, worshipping G-d, Mary, Jesus, reverencing the saints and taking in how we can improve ourselves, our relationship with each other, etc. is all part of it.
Great video Fr. How do we get those who think their spirituality is sufficient, to see that so much more is available?
Some people, hard as it may be to believe, have never experienced unconditional love. They didn’t just have dysfunction in their families, they had nothing. The structure and function of the church makes sense to those who have had the experience, but not to those who have not. To those of us who have known unconditional love in our lives, our job is to be that love, whether we recognize the results or not. I’ve been in recovery for awhile and it can be hard to keep my hands off the steering wheel and leave the driving of the spiritual experience of those around me to God. And I’ve seen amazing things. Some have found a God of their understanding that I can relate to, others not so much. But all those things you say can be found in “religion” are also found in the recovery rooms. I’ve found as much loneliness in a room full of Catholics who haven’t experienced the unconditional love of Jesus as I ever did in a bar. The structure and function of the Church is a wonderful thing, probably the best humanity has come up with so far, but it isn’t the thing itself.
Apropos how to read the Bible... do you recommend the "Bible in a year" series by Ascencion presents?
Well done.
thank you Father 🙏😊
Thank Father great video
Love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, soul & mind & love thy neighbour as thyself whether religious or spiritual. ☺️.
I think this actually connects to another church issue which is how poorly we teach about the church in church. I also attended mass every week as a kid and in hindsight i new NOTHING about what i means to he Catholic until I started researching it myself
I tried RCIA once, may try it again. Off topic tho, I'm excited for Elden Ring DLC. Not sure if Casey is a seasoned gamer or not.
After being away since childhood, I am back on the RCIA path myself, hope we bump into each other again here!
I suggest reading the compendium of the cathecism or the cathecism of St. Pius X, they are short versions of cathecism, also, if you can read larce books, go to the Cathecism of the Catholic Church, you can have it as like a "dictionaire of faith" for consulting and so on, use the RCIA to make friends, connections, and have a social life in the parish you go, there is more than the old ladies with RCIA(at least in the parish I go)
I'd be interested in hearing him talk about the spiritual lessons we can take from the rotting universe that Souls games exist in.
@@John-ev1rw right! the lore for souls games are ethereal and rich, it what be very interesting to know what a priest’s take would be
Good information
As a revert...I concluded that...spirit w/o God is silly! God w/o meaning is sad. Jesus is the Heart of God, and Jesus w/o the Eucharist is lonely!
There is deep spirituality to be found through adhering to and practicing rigid religious structure, but it really only works if you’re making a conscious choice to do it. If someone’s just giving you orders or making you do something out of fear, it’s not going to hit very deep. But when you use the rigid structure of religious system to consciously seek the spirituality of it, you’ll see God. Religious practice must be a choice made on our own volition. When it’s enforced by others, that’s where you usually see the problems arising, and that’s when people get turned off. That’s where people get hurt
Nice Video!
That's me: spiritual and religious. I prefer empty church and prayer im my solitude. But i love very much the catholic ritual, gregorian chant, canonical books... and two thousand years of history.
I have not been able to access Upon Friar Review through UTube. Are you still producing it. I enjoyed watching it. Connie in rural Pa.
Yeah you’re right why is it gone, that’s weird
No it’s probably done because of what’s going on with fr. Patrick unfortunately
@@smpark12 Friar Tuttle was removed from public facing roles because of an investigation concerning committing sexual abuse.
I can confidently say that I would not have continued walking in the faith without the Church. The Church is an absolute necessity and available to all who are humble enough to admit they cannot live out their faith by themselves. "Religion that is pure and undefiled before God the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world." - James 1:27. Thank you for the encouraging words.
Fr Casey, you are my rebbe ( hassidic leader/teacher
Amen!!! ❤❤❤
Father Casey you are echoing my sentiments. I grew up in a devoutly Catholic home. I’m spiritual But not religious. As recently as last week’s homily, the priest told a story about why women cannot be priests in the eyes of God. After church, I spoke to priest, rather young-ish late 30s/40s his explanation didn’t resonate but I didn’t say more. The church for me is a place of solace. I am not really interested in religion, because it is influenced by man. I have a direct relationship with Jesus.
Thanks for your input. At the end of the day, the most important relationship to me is directly with Jesus/God. I speak directly to him in prayer and thoughts.@@matthewc167
Many young people are flocking to the Masses that are celebrated in a way thay is truly spiritual!!
The gray, benign, "feel-good" Masses tend to be quite empty
As a young person, I confirm.
Fr Casey,
The rooms of narcotics anonymous teach us that there is a difference between religion and spirituality. But the underlying reason behind this is so that people of many different faiths can come to the rooms and get clean from drugs.
In my case, it's what brought me to the Catholic Church. But I do know that we have atheists, as well as Buddhists in our program.
We believe that spirituality is the message, and religion is the messenger. We promote spiritual qualities like honesty, open-mindedness, and willingness. These qualities are not attached to a specific religion, or lack thereof. Do you have any additional thoughts on this matter?
Im trying to be religious and spiritual. I never suffered so much in my life. Spirituality is finding you own way towards God. Religion is forcing things on you, because its the right thing to do.
I used to be, but not identify as, spiritual but not religious. It was not an anchor in hard times, since without community I had to go it alone so often. This was in college when I was ex-WELS but not yet Catholic. I can still see the appeal--religion is demanding! Especially Christianity, which demands that we not live but "Christ in us". I'm still trying to find how to love life while also seeking after the divine, but I pray I'll get there.
really retable
Another atheist question for your next 'Answering questions from Atheists' video.
Short version: Why should Catholicism be considered a message of hope rather than one of horror?
Long version: As an atheist, I don't claim to know what happens after we die, or the nature of the universe we live in. I feel like the world would be better off if more people were comfortable with saying 'I don't know' when they have insufficient evidence to reach sound conclusions about such things.
Catholics do claim to know these things, however, the essence of which is 'We were created by an all-powerful entity we call God to serve and praise him and are judged after we die and sent to either an eternal reward or eternal punishment, with purgatory as an intermediate state for those who are ultimately destined for salvation but need to be purified first.'
In essence:
1) Life is a pass-fail test.
2) Results are final, and come due to the moment you die, whether you die at 120 or die in your crib.
3) Results last forever. Go forward a googolplex to the power of a googolplex _millenia_ from now, and people will not even be 0.00000001% closer to the end of whatever fate they've been assigned by choices made during their brief stay here on earth.
3) Per Matthew 7:13, it sounds very much like in this pass-fail test, most people fail.
4) If you fail, the results are so unpleasant you would have been better off if you had never existed in the first place.
It seems to follow that, if Catholics are right, we live in a world where most people would have been better off it they had _never been born_ and only a minority will enjoy having existed when the results come due. Even for those who 'pass', many of their closest friends and loves ones likely won't, and they'll spend eternity knowing that some of the people they care about are in anguish and yet forever beyond saving.
Can you understand why there are quite a number of people, myself included, who see this model of reality as nightmarish rather than hopeful, and would be horrified if they someday concluded it was true?
If presented that way, I understand.
It's just that I've had the experience of a God who is love, who never ceases to forgive.
I look at Christ on the cross with the good thief, I look at the prodigal son, at Lamentations 3, 22-33, at Psalm 145:9, at Psalm 100:5, Ephesians 2:4-5... And many many others.
I've been taught that God is mercy and I have experienced it through my own failings.
@@mariahernandezmoya If God genuinely never ceased to forgive, I would find Christianity much more appealing. If, for example, hell existed but was entirely chosen by the damned as is often claimed, then a forgiving God who loves all his creations should release people from hell and forgive them the moment they show genuine repentance and contrition, even after death. The judgement should _never_ be final, if God desires everyone to reconcile with him, and only those who refuse to change even in the face of the full consequences of their bad choices should continue to face punishment.
I feel like the Parable of the Prodigal Son from the Gospel of Luke would seem to set this up, but then it's abandoned and some of the early church fathers, like Tertullian, not only anticipated the eternal suffering of non-believers but seemed to actively look forward to it as something they could entertain themselves with from their lofty perches in heaven.
Well said Fr Casey! One can't be spiritual and neglect the religion founded by Christ Himself
The term "Spirituality" is more nuanced. It can be seen as an intermediate between religious and atheistic perspectives for several reasons. Spirituality often emphasizes personal experiences and individual paths to meaning, which can be less rigid than the structured doctrines of organized religion. Spirituality can be more flexible. It can encompass a range of beliefs and practices, from meditation and mindfulness to belief in a higher power or universal energy. This inclusivity can attract individuals who are uncomfortable with atheism's rejection of all supernatural elements but do not align with a particular religion. It bridges the gap. Spirituality can act as a bridge for those transitioning from religious backgrounds to more secular views or vice versa. It allows individuals to retain a sense of connection and purpose without fully committing to atheism or traditional religious frameworks. Fear can play a significant role in shaping people's choice of spirituality over more rigid frameworks like religion or atheism. Opting for spirituality instead of religion or atheism is akin to a closeted gay individual identifying as bisexual rather than openly gay, due to greater acceptance and reduced stigma. Both spirituality and bisexuality are often more palatable to mainstream society.
Such a young, sympathetic and… lacking life experience priest! I’d give him a hug.
But… I don’t consider myself “spiritual”, and I don’t find a reason to be “religious”.
I simply know God, because God wants me to know Him. And I can’t find a single atom in His Creation where He’s not present so I to “seek” for Him. But I guess that’s because my life experience was very different from the one this sympathetic young man had.
God knows…
can someone tell me what happened to Upon Friar Review
This! What is going on? Did Father Patrick do something?
Just think what is a joke that you hear a ton of about priests and I think you’ll understand.
Accusations of se*ual misconduct
@@simplyalexandra5241 omds he's been suspended it's on the website, nahhhh I loved that show
That would tend to be healthy, but it must be the real deal, as that kind of a mix can very easily go bad, real bad, real fast!
Amen. Amen. Amen.
Silly question. If you are religious, you are spiritual; and if you are spiritual, you are religious - the two go hand-in-hand.
Amen 🙏
Thanks young JEDI
I'm both as well. I'm a strong believer in the Anglo-Catholic faith, and I pray often. Last Sunday was my Confirmation, and I have never been happier
Congratulations. May the Holy Spirit accompany you always.
both
pax et bonum from MA, Friar Casey.
Thank you, Father, thank you.
Love your videos. What do you have to say to SBNRs that left the church because of abuse and corruption within the church and the fact that some in the church tried to cover it up instead of hold them accountable? I believe many SBNRs (such as myself) have been hurt and alienated by their church community but still desire a connection with God. Of course it isn’t fair to throw out a whole institution because of a corrupt abusive minority, but can you blame those who can no longer trust those they gave all their trust to? And how can one start to trust again without serious steps by the institution to assure accountability and a rebuilding of trust? Thank you and God Bless🙏
It never made sense to me to hold a grudge against the whole Church founded by Jesus because of what a few sinful members did in a particular place and time. I see people holding their rage to their hearts for this or that sin against them, and it just wounds them even more. You can find terrible sinners and great saints in the Church. I try to hang out with the Saints and pray for the sinners.
@@isoldam Except these aren't a "few"... There are A LOT. Saying this as an atheist, but with a tight circle of friends who are catholics, and Church for them isn't exactly a friendly place.
I wish every high school kid could hear this. The neo-pagan world they inhabit tells them that truth depends on time, place and circumstance. The source of truth is the self. The measure of truth is the self's feelings. Thank you, Father for clarifying that spiritually eventually fails without religion.🙏✝️
What about Jesus saying people need to become like little children? Should I follow old men traditions? Or should I become like a little child?
What can you tell me about people who are a law unto themselves? Thanks.
How would you regard someone who says they are spiritual, and yet an atheist? How do we pray for such a person?
This is almost as good as the Desiree’ Miller and Theresa Renterria show. 😁
For as much as I can appreciate this point of view, I have a difficult time believing it. That's because I don't see the Catholic church, nor any church for that matter, taking it seriously. When I talk with many of my Christian friends, they are happy to talk about *their* view of the Christian faith, and then say that the only way that they can share the Lord's Supper with me is if I am catechized by their church and believe in their view of theology and submit to their authority. I'm sorry, but I don't see anywhere in Scripture where the church becomes the center of our worship. It is only God whom we worship through the person and work of His Son, Christ Jesus. All of the trappings of the church may feel good, but do they lead us to the centrality of Christ or the centrality of our own lived experience?
Father Casey, I have heard people say, "I didn't leave the church, the church left me". Maybe you can elaborate on that some day. If you haven't done so already.
What happened to Upon Friar Review?
Tuttle was removed from public facing roles after the church investigated a sexual abuse claim.
@@anamewillcomelater Unfortunately, that doesn't surprise me, but who - or what - is "Tuttle"?
@@RobinBaich The other friar in the review channel.
@@anamewillcomelater Father Pat? You gotta be kidding me! :O Now THAT is a shock!
@@RobinBaich very little information has been made public but it seems that something accured with an adult that they did not agree to but no law was broken but the church took action like a private company would and suspended him and unlikley he will ever be back
What do you think about building the third temple i heard the red heifers are already in the holy land and groups are trying todo it as we speak
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Can anyone help me to belive in god once again , i visit church every sunday in india. it is working but i want my spirituality to be perfect
Pray to God. Ask Him. "God,I want to believe. Give me more faith." God bless you!
When you feel God telling you to give something to or too so something for him. No matter how uncomfortable or difficult, follow God's guidance. Make sure you check that God is calling you to do something. Is the request in alignment with the Bible?
@@matthewc167
I'll talk to my local priest, he will understand ( he's polite )
@@growtocycle6992 okay 😔
So, i have just recently come to this😂
And I'm in my 50s😳
Maybe the priest who gave sermons with his eyes closed was experiencing a supernatural state of inspiration which event conveyed to the congregants man oh man your church was that ugly? I can picture a little Casey being dragged off in tears to go to mass every Sunday. As a side note, do you think that televideo confessions will be approved in the near futue?0:25
Is it possible to be one without the other...in the true sense of the definitions?
I'm the opposite: I don't believe, but I like the Catholic Church, and I like the rituals and culture surrounding it
Father, today is my confirmation into the Catholic Church, please pray for me.
I'm wondering what happens if priests get caught smoking marijuana? Also what would happen if a priest vaped?
Is there such a thing as “religious but not spiritual”? Would anyone describe themselves as such?
Of course, there’s extremes on both sides. Some people are super strict with the rules and if anyone breaks them that’s it, but there’s also many Christians mostly Protestants that say they don’t need anything but the Bible and Jesus. It’s about healthy mix.
Sure I would say those are people who go through all the rituals just for appearances sake, not because they actually desire any kind of deeper connection. That used to be way more prevalent when it was beneficial for you to outwardly appear as if you were a devout member of the faith.
There is interesting reading out there if you look up secular Judaism; as an ethno-religious group it's a little different in emphasis and I've met Jewish people who refer to themselves as "religious but not spiritual", many of whom are atheists who still go to shul etc.
The VAST amount of new age spiritualist that were former "Christians" come from RCC.
For a long time, I was the opposite. Religious, but not spiritual. I'd rather, as a teen, debate atheists and protestants on the internet than pray the rosary with my mom. I liked theology and stuff, but didn't have a very prayerful heart.
I am one of those you mentioned: Spiritual but not Religious. - Grew up Catholic, went to a seminary (capuchin) for 2 years at the age of ten. Knew I was gay at the age of 12, came out at 23. Lost interest in Religion but deepened into Spirituality. Eventually I learned that I was an old soul meaning many, many lives on earth. Saw that movie mass appeal, with Željko Ivanek, Jack Lemon , which I believed you reviewed in a previous podcast. Željko Ivanek played a seminarian tutored by Jack Lemon. In his first sermon he said “Religion was created to be obsolete “ - I got what he meant immediately. Religion is like schools, they’re out there to bring us to the next level like a doctorate. Once Religion prime us up, we’re able to become “aware” and embrace Spirituality and who we Truly are: Spiritual Beings. It is a graduation from religious to spiritual. So Father Casey, you’re helping us graduate to that higher level . May GOD Almighty bless your work.
The word religious sadly has been tied to the word bigotry. And when you live in a, go along to get along society.. Saying you’re spiritual is easier accepted
I am both, but far more religious than “spiritual.”