Are Lorcana cards TOO EXPENSIVE?! | Lorcana TCG | Singles Market Discussion

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  • @patrickmcclain5692
    @patrickmcclain5692 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think it's normal or to be expected for a new game. I mean its not really controlled by Ravensburger either. I like how Pokemon does do it with those showcase cards in those sets you can buy at LGS or even big box retailer, however it does devalue their cards across the board. It's kind of a give and take. I'm both a collector and a competitor. In 5 boxes of 1st Chapter I have no Rapunzel, Belle, or Maleficent legendaries, and I'm like what do I do? Do I buy just 1 for collection, do I keep buying boxes/packs to get a playset of them each? Or do I just the collectors of each, and then just build decks around the cards I have. That is a big point about what you brought up, making decks with what we have, even if its not optimal. I got 1 Haram Flavorsham, I got 1 Fishbone Quill. Yet I have 4 Grand Pabbie, so I can build a blue deck but I don't have the ramp/draw engine needed. I only have 2 Be Prep, and no Malef Dragon, so I'm looking a bit mediocre in Ruby. Overall it gets really hard building a deck when the most critical cards for it, you don't have a playset of. Yet I do like that the cards are worth something, and not just $5.

  • @jacobschmidt1264
    @jacobschmidt1264 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The biggest thing is 3 sets per year would be better….

  • @otakulivingstone8313
    @otakulivingstone8313 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Into the Inklands is a great set and many LGS's are low on the product or are sold out. I can see another wave of this set to come out.
    As for Tragic Beast there are alot of Rise of the Floodborn sealed product still out there its just that Tragic Beast is the only good money card in that set besides enchanted cards so the EV (expected value) of a booster box is far lower than what its priced as overall when cracked open. Unless Tragic Beast is priced the same as a floodborn booster box people are not going to be cracking packs from Rise of the Floodborn.
    Plus there is always power creep when new sets come out so whats hot right now may not be hot later on.

  • @ParadoxialParodies
    @ParadoxialParodies 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Depending on the type of deck you are building and this can go for most TCG games you can find a cheap singles or so BUT there is catch to this, Keep in mind this is someone who is coming form yugioh, which I do play from time to time and starting to get into Lorcana, But from my experiences so far is this you can make a cheap deck BUT you as the player will be working hard to compete if your trying to go into "pro" or something like that. Then that is when your going to be needing staple cards if your trying to make your deck work the way you want it to for example lets say you are playing a Steel/Amethyst deck now if you wanted draw power well for Steel you Sad Beast which he is good for most decks I seen with Steel he is a staple card but if you wanted card effects like him sure with Amethyst you have a lot of draw card but what if your playing other decks and you want to have a substitute for Sad Beast?
    This is when you start to see budget decks try to do some of the same effect that meta cards or staple cards are able to do without jumping hoops and depending on the type of deck you want to play, not just ink colors but stuff like Midrange, Control, Aggro, etc this would also shape on how you play with your deck, some people tend to forget this from what I seen, and like said before trying to find substitute's to cards that cost because that card is in demand makes it harder for you win at higher level. Outside of Lorcana there was one card I remember in yugioh that people wanted/needed if you were playing a fire deck and that was Bonfire there are 2 different version because of rarity but you needed that card if you were wanting to make your fire deck work one cost about $158.28, at the time of this writing and got the prices from TCG Player, and other version is about $64.31 now that can eat some one wallet up but if you want to be in the meta well you have to pay the price to play at high levels.

  • @vilainn6
    @vilainn6 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Ravensburger has reduced the rate of legendary in that last set so they already made there bed.

  • @cstorvold
    @cstorvold 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    16:50 Ya you can make a cheap Charizard deck, but then you have to play Pokemon.

  • @robb8689
    @robb8689 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The game is fun doesn’t seem so complicated although it can get complex like magic but not equal.
    It got me and my brothers playing so it a W whether it stays in TCG or not

  • @tamilazzaro2145
    @tamilazzaro2145 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Try playing a competitive Magic deck.... To win in modern it will cost you $400 or more for a top deck.

  • @Spamthulhu
    @Spamthulhu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A few cards that see meta play are very expensive. Steel has the biggest problem being a cost multiplier. But singles are readily available for all the cards. Unsure of my reprint stance but not sure it would fix things. A lot of staple cards are seriously in sets you can buy boxes of for under msrp so most complaints are "i wanna open an elsa" not malificent dragons are pricey. I think a few steel cards need reprinting or put in a deck so that some of the rare and super rare cost cards are eased up but ravensburger rents printer time so they cant make quick meta swings.

  • @Spamthulhu
    @Spamthulhu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are just a handful of super expensive cards and the most expensive card is in floodborn which is super available

  • @danielaguirre5949
    @danielaguirre5949 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lorcana players: why are singles so expensive?!
    Every other TCG: first time?
    Seriously people don’t research how fast and expensive a TCG get. Part of the community fall out after the first set or two when reality hits them. Honestly Lorcana singles and stock prices are more stable compared to One Piece TCG at the moment.

    • @CampLegend-network
      @CampLegend-network  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just because Lorcana is better than One Piece doesn't mean it can't also aspire to be better! And we've been through countless TCGs and know a singles problem when we see one. Is Lorcana as bad as others? No, but it also isn't as good as others too. We love this game and want the best for it long term which means finding a way to balance reasons to crack packs with relatively affordable access to the competitive cards. Thanks for the watching!

  • @therealcancerofyoutube8174
    @therealcancerofyoutube8174 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This feels like a clickbait title, you can find most of the amethyst, saphire, amber and emerald staples in the floodborn and inklands starter decks

    • @CampLegend-network
      @CampLegend-network  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sure there are staple common, uncommons, and rares that are very easy to acquire but staple Legendaries are another matter entirely. If you watched the video, I talk about how the casual community is doing great since you can build decent and fun decks without legendaries... but decent and competitive are not the same and starter decks won't get you very far at the highest level.

    • @SnapquesterMage
      @SnapquesterMage 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@CampLegend-networkYou can build a tournament winning competitive deck, and arguably the best deck across multiple seasons, for well under $200. You can do it for under $100 if you swap the big Maleficents for Dragon Fires.

  • @bt6646
    @bt6646 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I made a tier 1 amethyst amber aggro deck that is very competitive and wins by turn 4 or 5 for $12 bucks lol the prices have gone down on singles like way down my deck has a bunch of rares and super rares

    • @CampLegend-network
      @CampLegend-network  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'll be honest with you, I've played that deck myself and while it is definitely a ton of fun and a decent deck as a competitive entry point, I personally find it to be absolutely abysmal into the steel meta we live in with set 3. Moreover, $12 seems almost unreasonably cheap so perhaps you are simply saying the cost of adding new cards from what you already had? I'd be interested to see this list if you want to drop a dreamborn link.
      Either way, I highly doubt that deck is actually competitive at the highest level. We have a lot of tournament results to support this as well especially a huge Pixelborn one (where every competitor has equal access to all the cards) and these cheap, hyper aggro decks like the one you're referencing were almost completely absent from top finishes. Nearly every top deck is running at least a playset a $25+ cards and some of them even run mulitple playsets of these chase legendaries.
      I think at the end of the day, the ideal state would be that there are affordable decks like the one you've built that can hang with the top dogs but that doesn't seem to be the direction the game is headed at present with so many high-powered legendaries and no affordable way to acquire them outside of dumb luck opening packs. But of course, the meta is still young and I would love to be proven wrong. Thanks for watching and commenting!

    • @bt6646
      @bt6646 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      X4 lilo making a wish
      X4 maleficent biding her time
      X 4 Pascal Rapunzel's companion
      X 4 stich new dog
      X 4 bo our guest
      X4 lantern
      X4 lefou bumbler
      X4 magic broom
      X4 Simba protective cub
      X4 friends on the other side
      X4 maleficent sorceress
      X4 rafiki mysterious mage
      X4 Jafar wicked sorcerer
      X 4 mickey mouse wayward sorcerer
      X4 stich rock star

    • @bt6646
      @bt6646 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I got all this as singles from bulk at local game store for $12

    • @CampLegend-network
      @CampLegend-network  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bt6646 Wow then you either got a hell of a friends and family deal or they didn't know what they were selling. Just the lilos are worth $12. Also, even this which has no legendaries is worth $74 to build on the singles market. dreamborn.ink/decks/kq3SVpe0RREZYb4IMY1M
      And not to burst your bubble but this is a set 1 only deck that might have been decent then but in this set 3 meta is definitely lacking the power needed to take on a tier 1 list. If you are looking to improve it though, from set 2 I'd reccomend picking up the Madam Mim and Merlin bounce package (you can actually get a few of these guys from one of the starter decks) and then hunt down some Pinnochio, Star Attraction and Arthur Wizard's Apprenctice to add to the list. From set 3 probably a couple baloo and maybe Kidas both 1 and 5 although I haven't personally tested those yet.
      Anyways, good luck friend!

    • @bt6646
      @bt6646 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CampLegend-network I don't think they know the values of these cards yet lol they just sell them as bulk price you get 4 cards for a dollar

  • @duckhuntdynasty6562
    @duckhuntdynasty6562 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    *laughs in magic the gathering* to be fair you have not hit the 80-90 range yet per card.

    • @CampLegend-network
      @CampLegend-network  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol oh we're very aware of Magic's price point which is why we are worried about seeing Lorcana drift towards the dark side too!

    • @duckhuntdynasty6562
      @duckhuntdynasty6562 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CampLegend-network I do want a reprint of that one beast card. I felt bad for buying the playset of Robin hoods. Part of me wants price to go down do game is playable, other part wants it to go up cause investment/feel a bit better buying it.

  • @jsavman7
    @jsavman7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best competitive deck in the game is like 200 bucks. And the best card in the game (maui) is like 9-10 bucks.

    • @patrickmcclain5692
      @patrickmcclain5692 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maui is not the best card in the game.

    • @AlwayzFresh
      @AlwayzFresh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      $200 to build a meta deck sounds cheap.

    • @jsavman7
      @jsavman7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@patrickmcclain5692 agree to disagree! Maui + hook crushes locations and kills anything in the game even can kill evasive creatures

    • @Spamthulhu
      @Spamthulhu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Beast tragic hero is 50-60 bucks

  • @Nazeh21
    @Nazeh21 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Started playing during the Floodborn set and I agree, these prices are crazy. I’ve been lucky with my pulls but eventually my luck is going to run out and my only choice is to drop more cash.
    RB pumping out a variant of the popular cards would be a great solution to this meta deck issue. I’m all for it.

  • @robb8689
    @robb8689 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It is very expensive
    If its not doing well why is it up in price? If its doing well then its more understandable

    • @SnapquesterMage
      @SnapquesterMage 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The game has been fairly successful, with high demand among players and collectors.

  • @tylerisdrawing9913
    @tylerisdrawing9913 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I mean, would you rather every card be less than a dollar and when you go to resell them you get barely anything back? I just don't understand the logic of wanting cards to be dirt cheap. It goes both ways; if cards are worthless, they're just a burnt cost when you buy them as opposed to being able to be resold

    • @tylerisdrawing9913
      @tylerisdrawing9913 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also who cares about packs when the cards are literally $.50 a pop. You can't have a company selling a box of cards for $100+ and each card is less than a dollar aside from a case hit enchanted.

  • @AmineL-es3dk
    @AmineL-es3dk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes. This game is crazy expensive and I dont think it's going to last long if they keep this up. Why spend and arm and a leg when I can get a pokemon meta deck for 50 bucks ? The reprinted Charizard Ex, the best deck multiple times to bring prices down !! What is it with cardboard costing more than the cardboard you pay with lol

  • @HiyaaGeorgie
    @HiyaaGeorgie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ll save everyone 19 minutes.
    Disney Lorcana is one of the cheapest TCGs to get into in 2024. This a redundant and dare I say silly topic to cover. Great video nonetheless!

  • @bradenbowdish6463
    @bradenbowdish6463 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I pretty much reject the entire premise ya'll lay out here. Best deck in the game is 250 dollars, and expensive singles are good for game stores. Higher margins for resell.

  • @Brandonhart100
    @Brandonhart100 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What? I mean the packs are expensive so the cards are going to be expensive. You've got the trademarks to pay for. No ones going to buy the packs to sell the singles to you if they aren't worth anything. Just keep in mind, if the cards are worth nothing stores, players, and collectors will leave. They need to balance all of that and I'd say they're doing a great job.

    • @CampLegend-network
      @CampLegend-network  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think Pokemon (which is growing at an unprecedented level) has shown that there is a way to balance the needs of competitive players, casual players, local stores, and collectors. There are no $50 staples in Pokemon...

    • @Brandonhart100
      @Brandonhart100 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CampLegend-network That's because very few people who buy pokemon cards actually play it (including myself btw). Mostly you have collectors looking for textured SIRs etc and so meta cards are opened in abundance. Supply is great demand is little so that happens. No other game that's come out can do what Pokemon does in that area. People are playing Lorcana in substantially higher numbers right now as a percentage of the player base. This may change. But don't expect gamepieces to be free unless you have a massive collector base who find value in cards that don't play well but that look cool.

  • @texasred1077
    @texasred1077 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds like you may need to stick with Pokémon…

  • @KJ-xo7sm
    @KJ-xo7sm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Its cheap 😅 Pokemon,yu gi oh,magic, Digimon is way more expensiv

    • @CampLegend-network
      @CampLegend-network  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lorcana may not be the MOST expensive but as a Pokemon player I can pretty safely say that almost every meta Pokemon deck costs significantly less than even the cheap meta Lorcana lists!

    • @KJ-xo7sm
      @KJ-xo7sm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CampLegend-network Pokemon was expensive as hell when i was playing (shaymin+giratinaex meta)
      Loca is one of the cheapest that has a Chance to last longer

    • @CampLegend-network
      @CampLegend-network  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@KJ-xo7sm Have you looked into Pokemon recently? They've really done a great job at making it much more affordable for the players while still creating awesome chase cards for the collectors through special illustration rares and alt arts. Lorcana has a great chance to last a long time thanks to the Disney IP but I think it needs to learn some of the lessons that Pokemon was forced to learn.

    • @AmineL-es3dk
      @AmineL-es3dk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Digimon is way cheaper than Lorcana. Lorcana is on par with YGO (unless you like speed duels)

  • @6thface
    @6thface 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Expensive? Top decks are still sub 500$.........

  • @Samral90
    @Samral90 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Lorcana is really cheap for a TCG... This discussion is dumb.

    • @flowflips3172
      @flowflips3172 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Idk bro at least where I live I can't find singles and the singles I can find are that are needed for the meta are over 30 or 40 some cards. It's not the most expensive but competitive singles are almost impossible to get

    • @flowflips3172
      @flowflips3172 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's without saying you need multiple x4 copies of those singles

    • @Samral90
      @Samral90 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@flowflips3172 I know. I think the prices are pretty Universal. Currently the Green Ursula ist absolut 40-50€ here, and everyone with a Green Deck needs 4. That's Not my point. TCGs are a very expensive Hobby. And compared to others, lorcana is currently on the cheap end, for my understanding.
      In Magic for example, a Casual Commander Deck can be easily 500-1000 Euros without beeing Tournament ready. If you Look at Tournaments-formats, you easily can be Up to 5-6 000 Dollars in some Formats.
      Or you have rotating Formats, where the cards you are allowed to Play Change with new Sets, so you are forced to buy new cards all the time.
      Lorcana displays are currently priced msrp slightly above mtg displays. But since you have a hefty number of collectors items in the enchanted, These carry the value of the product. Overall, compared to my othe tcg experiences, it is Not at all surprising, that there are some cards woth high value.
      You even need those a bit for a healthy collectors Game, for collectors to Chase These cards and sell product.
      I Just don't Like this Argument, because None of it is a surprise. Ever tcg ist kinda the Same value-vise. 🤔

    • @davidkringlen2479
      @davidkringlen2479 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah, $500-$600 decks to be even somewhat competitive. Super cheap. Yeah right.

    • @lerak8452
      @lerak8452 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Many cards have come down. There are so many different sets. It's how you play them. Pick a color and play a little. People act like they just buy every card, and they'll win, lol. There used to be cards that were $60 and are now $30. You have to figure these cards out and see what works. I'm playing a tournament with a deck that the most expensive card is $3. By the way, I have 4 Jafars, 3 Beasts, 3 Robin Hoods, and many more. That I'm not playing. To slow. I just found something that may work and trying to beat those meta decks. It ramps quickly. It can draw and ink at the same time, goes wide, and bounces. My deck is probably under $60.

  • @radiochango
    @radiochango 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lol, prohibitibitely expensive? do you play like any other TCG? doomer video for clicks

  • @jacobschmidt1264
    @jacobschmidt1264 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Outside of steel and emerald the game is cheap.

    • @kaia.4688
      @kaia.4688 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      *laughs in Sapphire* Belle and Hades are about $25 each, so you're looking at about $150-200 for 6-8 cards to really be able to run that color at full power. Granted the other cards are cheap, you basically have to play a diet version if you don't make that investment.

    • @jacobschmidt1264
      @jacobschmidt1264 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not every blue deck runs Belle or Hades....
      @@kaia.4688

  • @MoikHorst
    @MoikHorst 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    tbh who is playing this shit if we have magic? dont get it

    • @Inherent_Deterrent
      @Inherent_Deterrent 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      building a lorcana deck is still much cheaper than building a modern deck for example

    • @dlvalhalla9255
      @dlvalhalla9255 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Magic is for fat old boomers

    • @ThePayne90
      @ThePayne90 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Its fun and its Disney, Magic isn't the end all be all of cardgames

    • @fangwolf9209
      @fangwolf9209 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The other commentors made good points, and I would also add that mtg just seems to get hard to get into locally. Trying to get into mtg is hard, there always seems to be a lot of vetrans of the game and its feels like youre a new character coming into the 3rd season of a show.
      There are so many people who completely understand every mechanic, have built communities, and hunderds of dollars worth of decks. It just doesnt seem like a viable game to affordbly get into, let alone having to invest continuously into your decks. Yes, Lorcana players can keep investing in, but a lot of the community seems to be very casual compared to mtg players.
      I've also been told by the ladies I play with that they liked that lorcana had more of a gender balance. So I would imagine that is also a contributer to the interest in different games, that may have a more diverse player base.

    • @davidkringlen2479
      @davidkringlen2479 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Because magic sucks and not everyone likes it.