The bike started as a Honda CBR1000RR. It’s turbo charged with a liquid cooled Intercooler. We can make up to about 500hp at the rear wheel. It has a custom M800 Motec system which logs 22 channels of data every run. It’s equipped with Ohlins suspension front and rear with Marchesini wheels. The body an Airtech Charlie Toy body has over 40 hours of wind tunnel development to arrive at its current configuration. It’s also wrapped with a vinyl perforated wrap like a golf ball. We build all the specialized parts from coolant and fuel tanks to sub frames, fairing mounts, weight boxes, wheel dish covers to the ice water intercooler. We actually have two of these Honda’s we distinguish between them as Little Red and Big Red.
Thanks for the info. Awesome to see you let these things loose. Well done. Wish you and the team all the best in chasing down what ever challenge you set yourselves after you smash 300.
I can go faster with just my body and gravity in freefall under 18k feet. I've hit 288mph head down towards the earth under 18k feet. The world record is 350mph under 18k. The 3 stratosphere jumpers all went over 800mph.
Nobody will ever surpass Burt Munroe. No matter what record is broken. You have to put all in perspective. But this is still amazing. Wish Burt was still around.
To see what burt did back in his day with with an engine and tires not even close to what is available now just speaks for itself. He was a genius ahead of his time. With today's technology I bet burt would surpass 300.
These guys are in their 60's and still doing serious work on 2 wheels. Love it! I'm 51 and still riding my Zx10r deep the twisties on track days. I always get strange looks when people see me remove my helmet after some good laps. The greater the speed ...- the stronger the will. Keep it up Al and Ralph!
At 70 years I got a 1st in Class C motorcycle (187.7 mph) and a 2nd in Class B motorcycle doing 215.0 MPH at the 2018 Mojave Magnum at the Mojave, CA Air & Spaceport. With osteoarthritis and 2 metal hips and one metal shoulder you just gotta keep going. I was signed up to ride Ted Rich's (Sportbike Performance Center, Phoenix, AZ) Bonneville streamliner in 2019 but Ted Rich and Elaine Carpenter were both killed when their new racing biplane crashed outside Deer Valley Airport Aug. 2018. You can check out some of Ted & Elaines' craziness at his site: th-cam.com/channels/xinlOMU8fgDETg3L8xxREg.html
The nicest part of this story comes at time 14:10 when the two are together, shaking hands and Mr. Lamb patting Mr. Hudson on the shoulder. Serious competition, but with friendship and full respect. There needs to be more people like these two gentlemen in the world. Especially in politics. What a beautiful story and video. Thank you so much for bringing this to us. Best wishes.
When the narrator said both men are in their sixties, I thought wow, that's incredible. Then it dawned on me. I'm pushing 60. I'd better get on with things before too much time goes by!
The story is compelling, as is the scenery. However..... Zach Settewongse's VIDEO editing and choices of visuals (including drone views) take this to the TOP! Bravo. *I've never seen better.*
They need to have some more music play much louder so that way they can obscure all of the engine sound and the sound of the wind in the motorcycle. More music louder music dumbass!
I used to think that these bike drivers walked funny because their race suits made them walk that way. Now I know it's because they're lugging around a pair of gigantic cast-iron balls.
It’s poetic that these two gentlemen are 60. They have a full appreciation of life and I know they are taking every moment to heart. Prayers and Godly Speeds to ya both!! 😎
True2022 one you get to any speed over 120 and your tucked down the wind helps you stay down he’s lucky when he stood up a little bit he didn’t get throw off the bike
@@ModernCam16 A Honda 250 n was too much for me to handle as it was ,so after breaking my thigh bone in 2 places I decided cars were safer .... Still love bikes ,but from a safe distance lol
Open motorcycle at over 200 mph on salt is very challenging. Margins for error is extremely small. I am very impressed. Many think they could do it but those have tried know better. Salt Flat racing begins next fall at Bonneville for those interested in racing closer to home. Just a reminder insurance companies don't pay out when your racing.
Which is why anyone worth doing this buys specialized racing insurance, just like at any track event in the US. I hope none of you delinquents are track racing without race insurance...
Excellent, thank you for letting us know some of the details. Sounds pretty potent! I wish you the best of luck, safety and hope you reach the target you have set.
At 12,000 ft, there's a loss less air density - so the engines don't make as much power as sea level, but then again, there's less air resistance! Since there's less density to make power, a turbo is needed. But if the turbos is too small (like used at sea level), the bike will overspeed it (less air for the compressor side) and blow it up. Altitude sickness also affects some people. So a lot of differences at altitude! I wonder how the FIM compares speeds at Bonneville, here in Bolivia, and sea level. Since there's different air resistance, speeds are different. The salt here seems to give more traction than Bonneville, too. Great video !! Congrats!
The down force from the fairings would be all different as well, those bikes must be riding the ragged edge of becoming very low altitude cruise missiles.
It is a catch 22. Thinner air makes it fast. It is also colder air which keeps the turbos colder. The air Pressure on the tires is huge. Just depends on how much force you are using on induction.
the traction issue is probably due to this lake being pretty virgin to land-speed and racing use. Bonneville has had well over 70 years of cars tearing it to pieces, making the salt somewhat less compacted.
Yah, this vid is thick with it. Also, I'm tired of the constant background music that is so common these days. Just give us the sounds from what you're "documenting".
I believe that the whole country of Bolivia went overboard with the pageantry as well. It's just a dude riding a motorcycle with big fairings, come on guys.
@@KazzArie I to had an r1. 2003 model stainless and black. 😥 Oh how I miss that thing but redundancy forced sale also he went 285 I think so just under 2x as fast 😜
It amazes me on how calm both of these men are looking and acting so calm. I guess that is what it takes. Plus a huge amount of maturity on both of their shoulders. Great team members on both teams also manage to figure out and get the most speed, HP, and stability out of their bikes. Bravo for Al Lamb who is near me (Plano) and for his sponsors!
The bike started as a Honda CBR1000RR. It’s turbo charged with a liquid cooled Intercooler. We can make up to about 500hp at the rear wheel. It has a custom M800 Motec system which logs 22 channels of data every run. It’s equipped with Ohlins suspension front and rear with Marchesini wheels. The body an Airtech Charlie Toy body has over 40 hours of wind tunnel development to arrive at its current configuration. It’s also wrapped with a vinyl perforated wrap like a golf ball. We build all the specialized parts from coolant and fuel tanks to sub frames, fairing mounts, weight boxes, wheel dish covers to the ice water intercooler. We actually have two of these Honda’s we distinguish between them as Little Red and Big Red
I loved this video! I wonder if they are getting ready to make a go of it in 2018 or not. I too would love to hear more about the bikes, but hey Al is a TEXAN, that's enough for me to root for him to retake the crown!
+Conyers IV I guess you missed the part where the tire was expanding and hitting the fender. So you will still have the same problem. Way to go Einstein.
They really should have taken that in account when they designed the bike any one in a drag car will tell you the the wheels expand a lot when you are driving 150+ miles per hour. That’s why most people are now racing on 1/8 strips instead of 1/4 the heat generated is to much. So they should have known the a finder 4” from the wheel wouldn’t be enough
Claire De la Cerna 200 is a lot different than 280.. Most street bike can get close to 200 but once you het so fast even getting that extra 1mph can take loads of hp/aero/weight/traction modifications
Here here!!! Shed engineering of a bygone era. Burts achievements without corporate millions or ‘fanfare’ can never be over stated! Wonder what he’d think of where we are today , or aren’t , despite all the tech?
Assuming the aerodynamic drag coefficient on the two bikes was the same, it would take twice as much power to overcome aero drag at 280 mph as 200 mph, because aero drag is a function of velocity squared. Rear tire slippage also saps power, so they probably using all 500 hp the engine produces.
@@CBRuRedE1 I build everything myself for decades; can profiles, cams valves flywheel no pistons...lol. Pushing past 200 takes more and more just to inch past. Burt is a hero to me, but I only learnt about him when the movie was released. I had hopes of making the 200 club, it's almost impossible while raising kids. Burt's trial and error method works but only so far and fast. After it becomes life and death. I'll catch up in my next life..cheers
I watched a David Attenborough Nature documentary: "This is the lesser spotted wombat spider carefully constructing a web..." Then i watched the US version: "HE WAS A SPIDER OUT FOR REVENGE!! THIS TIME IT'S PERSONAL!! HUNTER KILLER 8 LEGGED DEATH MACHINE!!!!"
Glad they've discovered the Solar de Uyuni! Twice as high as Bonneville. I love it there, spent lots of time at Uyuni on trips to see the flamingos at lakes near the Chilean border that are up to 15,000ft. Thinner air shoulld allow speeds well above Bonneville although supercharging will be required; natural aspiration at that altitude yields very little power. How in the world to the flamingos fly?
Supercharging is not the answer because it takes power from the engine to make power at the wheel (parasitic) Turbocharging is the answer to high level racing & makes far more power (pro rata) than any other form of forced induction.
@@peterherrington3300 the blower on a top fuel engine takes over 300 horsepower to drive it. A drop in the bucket when the engine makes over 11000 horsepower.
What if I told you I've done over 400 miles an hour and it only cost me $68.54? What's my secret....... I bought a plane ticket on sale to Denver.........
Literally running on the salt is like driving on fairly smooth pavement with sand spread over it interspersed with damp areas that give you minimal traction and a degree of hydroplaning. Traction is a huge issue, throttle control and no sudden power applications. Further any speed over 140 mph will virtually rip you off the bike and every increase in speed makes you tuck so hard it hurts. Don’t lift your head, your neck will snap. I have done 170 on pavement and while crew at Bonneville we set a class record for a non streamlined bike in the 1650 gas class. Such a unique experience, cleaning the salt off inner fenders and building salt men like snowmen because it was damp enough to stick together like wet snow. Bravo any speed over 200 on a bike is a feat few experience.
I met Al and his son at American Flat Track -Red Mile Kentucky. Didn't know who he is, was telling him about an old 1977 1150 Honda moded cafe racer I had. Little did I know what fast was. Really nice guy. He said he got into racing in his 50's
The FIM inspector has to check a fully custom hand built motorcycle. Minimal parts. Extra race parts. The inspector probably just make sure the thing has tires haha. What else can he realistically check?
You check everything between the front and the rear. I've been doing it for ten years and all you do is adapt the methods used for normal racing machinery.
FIM does have rules about how custom things are made, as do most governing bodies in motorsport. Most governing bodies also tend to keep their rules quite close to one another, it makes it easier to scrutinise international races. For instance MSA (Motorsport South Africa) regs state that a fuel cell (tank) has to feature baffles or neoprene foam inside to stop the fuel sloshing around and potentially upsetting balance. Any parts that bolt on eg. Brake calipers have to be lock wired, fastening them in place, to prevent them flying off if fasteners, capscrews etc. work loose. There are also minimum and maximum gaps between fenders and tyres... Just about everything on a race bike has a rule or a min/max tolerance, it's actually quite a pain in the ass LOL
250, 280, 300 or whatever. It takes a lot of work and unbelievable courage and skill to achieve any of those numbers. Congratulations to both riders and teams, there's always next time.
@@TherealTony_Chin Wow man i never knew that! Thank you sir. Nice to connect those dots! What blows my mind is the heiroglyps from 2700BC say the Pereguine Falcon is the fastest moving animal on the planet. And they were correct! Seems the japanese are also aware of this fact.
Reading/seeing Burt cast his own pistons out of unique mystery alloys shows a remarkable dedication and sensitive, impassioned ingenuity. I'd seen/known about racers doing that before but seeing the lengths Burt went really impressed me with his resolves to go the extra mile. A champion in the best sense of the word that the very best of those who chase their dream, demanding the best of which they're capable, share. Incredibly inspirational.
im a x wera roadracer and i would do anything to try for 300 ive been close to 175 at atlanta motor speedway and road atlanta before g cavity was removed and after, hats off to these warriors they are the real deal couldnt imagine even at 52 years of age now lol
There is a lot of variables when it comes to hp these types of motorcycle make. Total displacement. Compression ratio. Amount of boost. Air density. Fuel. Etc. But having worked for Mr Turbo when we where the first company to produce a turbo kit for the Suzuki Hayabusa, I can tell you that on a completely stock engine (10.5 cr) 116 octane fuel. 10 lbs of boost in Houston Texas produced 250 hp at the rear wheel. The company had other bike with modified engines that produced in excess of 700 hp at the rear wheel.
Sorry but gearing has nothing to do with horsepower figures. Gearing will affect how the power is supplied to rear wheel not how much total horsepower the engine will produce.
Running @ 12Kft has to be grueling on everyone. Jaunting down to Bolivia make a few runs can't be cheap either. Not like loading up the trailer and road-tripping to Bonneville.
Frank it was extremely tough. Making it happen took a ton of work. Then the logistical nightmare and dealing with customs caused several containers to arrive a week late. As the filmmaker I suffered from extreme Altitude Sickness (HACE) and (HAPE) for five days. The bikes arriving late worked for me as I didn't even know where I was for a few days. Some of the riders had symptoms too and each dealt with it in their own way.
Bonneville has been getting rained out the last few years. If Bolivia is available on a consistent basis then ya might be better off tuning for the air there. Remember that folks come from all over the world to Bonneville so travel to Bolivia, no big deal.
There was a team from New Zealand that made a trip to Bonneville in 2018, ran a record speed over 300 mph in F/GS and didn't get to make a backup run due to rain. From my understand they are planning to go to Boliva in 2023, but the car will run in a different class.
you can leave the harbor freight tools in Bolivia, and not feel bad. Snap on tools are actually very good, (better)although i've broken both types of almost every tool. I'm not a harley guy... But i see the point.
i have had my Snap-on, Craftsman and Mac tools for well over 30+ years. i'm almost the age of the two bikers in the video. my tools pay for my living in the automotive industry. they make me well over $100k a year. yes, they will once in a great while whear out. (i never had one brake) and i get them replaced for free. you can't get that with your harbor freight tools, now can you?. people like you bash snap-on and harley's for several reasons, your not American, or your a cheapass that doesnt understand quality. im also sure that my tools work harder than you.
Fact check: "Warner set a new world motorcycle land speed record of 311.945 miles per hour (502.027 km/h) from a standing start to 1.5 miles at the Loring Timing Association 's Land Speed Race, held at the Loring Commerce Centre (the former Loring Air Force Base ) in Limestone, Maine ."
This was superb.....the light perfect.. I'm directing a film on the speed attempts at pendine this yr... This video is great... Reminds me of worlds fastest Indian and more.. I see their rivalry A modest respect for each other Passion pursued What super people......
some of the rules are bull shit budweiser made the first land vehicle to break the sound barrier but it doesnt count buy the fia because it had only three wheels, didnt run back the same way and the us air force clocked the speeds not the fia. but lets be real it was still the first car to break the sound barrier wether they like it or not
That thing would probably kill you. Bad aero and frankly, it's a showpiece. Not purpose engineering. The boss hoss is more blatantly not made to stay stable(there's worrying videos of wobble etc) at the speeds it could reach engine wise and I'd be afraid you'd not be better of with that other thing. ..... I'd love to see a crash dummy in a leather combo fall at 300mph though
Man this is awesome wish I woulda know all this when we just loaded your 2 bikes up at brookhaven honda woulda tried to get a autograph stay safe out there this is awesome
60% of Bolivians live in poverty, it's one of the poorest nations in the world. Cartels aren't exactly known for their employee compensation packages. And they bully the gov't too, which is part of the issue with the water crisis in La Paz.
This is stupid. Why are they always trying to break speed records on salt? Its like having a 100 meter sprint on the beach. Moto GP bikes can hit 220mph in very short distances. You telling me they cant find a nice paved road longer than a race track???
Where did you pull that 240 out from? What the flying fuck is a "very short distance"? What does any of that have to do with a TOP SPEED record..? And where can you find perfectly flat road that has a straight over 5 miles long? The longest runways are half the length. Brilliant argument. But hey... they have been doing it since combustion engines existed so they must be wrong -.-
Sir Moke calm down guy. I may have been wrong about top speed (officially the top speed 221.5 mph, set by Andrea Dovizioso), but that’s pretty damn close to what these guys are doing on their super modified, turbo charged bikes that are made to only go in a straight line. So yeah, it is the salt, asshole. Just because something has been done for a long time, doesn’t mean it makes sense.
I am guessing less then 100 people in this world that have the guts to go after these land speed records!!!!!!! Simply insane.. simply awesome Tough to imagine what they are thinking the 5 minutes before each HIGH SPEED RUN you would think that a lot of countries would make it an internacional even with countries trying to be the fastest
It wont go near that fast on the salt, nor at that altitude. Asphalt is one thing, salt is another. There is a significant amount of wheel slip (spin) on the salt.
by that logic , this is a crock of shit. not into bikes as such but this seems weak as shit knowing many road bikes can hit 200 mph plus on a regular highway/large straight road. props to the guys and all but surely the real record is waaaaaayyyy!! more than this. I'm ready to be berated/ mocked for my lack of knowledge on the subject matter, but please enlighten me...
The bike started as a Honda CBR1000RR. It’s turbo charged with a liquid cooled Intercooler. We can make up to about 500hp at the rear wheel. It has a custom M800 Motec system which logs 22 channels of data every run. It’s equipped with Ohlins suspension front and rear with Marchesini wheels. The body an Airtech Charlie Toy body has over 40 hours of wind tunnel development to arrive at its current configuration. It’s also wrapped with a vinyl perforated wrap like a golf ball. We build all the specialized parts from coolant and fuel tanks to sub frames, fairing mounts, weight boxes, wheel dish covers to the ice water intercooler. We actually have two of these Honda’s we distinguish between them as Little Red and Big Red.
AL LAMB hi. Thank you
Thanks for the info. Awesome to see you let these things loose. Well done.
Wish you and the team all the best in chasing down what ever challenge you set yourselves after you smash 300.
Thanks for the info, good luck with the record.
I can go faster with just my body and gravity in freefall under 18k feet. I've hit 288mph head down towards the earth under 18k feet. The world record is 350mph under 18k. The 3 stratosphere jumpers all went over 800mph.
LOL plus running at 12k feet will rob you of crazy HP. Do it in Nevada.
Nobody will ever surpass Burt Munroe. No matter what record is broken. You have to put all in perspective. But this is still amazing. Wish Burt was still around.
To see what burt did back in his day with with an engine and tires not even close to what is available now just speaks for itself. He was a genius ahead of his time. With today's technology I bet burt would surpass 300.
He wld b chasing 500
These guys are in their 60's and still doing serious work on 2 wheels. Love it! I'm 51 and still riding my Zx10r deep the twisties on track days. I always get strange looks when people see me remove my helmet after some good laps. The greater the speed ...- the stronger the will. Keep it up Al and Ralph!
At 70 years I got a 1st in Class C motorcycle (187.7 mph) and a 2nd in Class B motorcycle doing 215.0 MPH at the 2018 Mojave Magnum at the Mojave, CA Air & Spaceport. With osteoarthritis and 2 metal hips and one metal shoulder you just gotta keep going. I was signed up to ride Ted Rich's (Sportbike Performance Center, Phoenix, AZ) Bonneville streamliner in 2019 but Ted Rich and Elaine Carpenter were both killed when their new racing biplane crashed outside Deer Valley Airport Aug. 2018. You can check out some of Ted & Elaines' craziness at his site: th-cam.com/channels/xinlOMU8fgDETg3L8xxREg.html
The nicest part of this story comes at time 14:10 when the two are together, shaking hands and Mr. Lamb patting Mr. Hudson on the shoulder. Serious competition, but with friendship and full respect. There needs to be more people like these two gentlemen in the world. Especially in politics. What a beautiful story and video. Thank you so much for bringing this to us. Best wishes.
When the narrator said both men are in their sixties, I thought wow, that's incredible. Then it dawned on me. I'm pushing 60. I'd better get on with things before too much time goes by!
I'm 47 and I twist my throttle and go 160 without blinking. you can too.
Manon, if you think pushing 60 is bad, just wait until you have to start dragging it!
better book that winged sky diving training!!!
nick21sammy Indeed, Burt Munro was and IS the sheet! 1924 Indian Scout.
You are never too old, our mind might tell us that but you got to keep digging.
R.I.P Ralph. Very humble guy that would take the time to answer a lot of land speed questions I had.
Whos Ralf if I may ask i wish him well
Ralph is the opponent in this video. The one who placed the new record.
The part that I liked the most was at the middle of the video, the rival team helped them as well!! Awesome
The rival team was in there messing shit up and acting like they were helping 😂😂
That's not too uncommon in the world of racing like this.
The story is compelling, as is the scenery. However..... Zach Settewongse's VIDEO editing and choices of visuals (including drone views) take this to the TOP!
Bravo. *I've never seen better.*
Thanks for the kind words 😁
They need to have some more music play much louder so that way they can obscure all of the engine sound and the sound of the wind in the motorcycle. More music louder music dumbass!
I used to think that these bike drivers walked funny because their race suits made them walk that way. Now I know it's because they're lugging around a pair of gigantic cast-iron balls.
lol
lol good one that was funny!!!!
Tbh, give me such a open stretch, that airbag equipped riding gear, medical staff on standby, I'd fucking do it.
+Kronos
I'm sure the medical team couldn't do much if something happened at over 200+ mph
This is so dumb..
It’s poetic that these two gentlemen are 60. They have a full appreciation of life and I know they are taking every moment to heart. Prayers and Godly Speeds to ya both!! 😎
4:29 Ralph Hudson achieved a record of 298 with a bike he built in his shop, and no factory support. He also died trying to get a record of 300.
I heard about him. It's so sad what happened to him. He's the true fastest on a bike.
R.I.P Ralph. A true legend.
Burt Monroe did much more much earlier.
@@chrisveldkamp5846
No he didn't.
Burts records were 55 years ago & only just hit 200 mph .
These guys are nearly 100 mph above that
I thought he was called Bill warner
So cool, looks like they are reaching the limits of whats possible.
Not at all .
With aerodynamic improvements & more power the 400 mark is getting closer .
Progress is good 👍
I remember as a teenager doing 70 on a bike for the first time and how much I had to hang on for dear life ,Mind boggles at 270 plus mph lol
True2022 one you get to any speed over 120 and your tucked down the wind helps you stay down he’s lucky when he stood up a little bit he didn’t get throw off the bike
@@ModernCam16 A Honda 250 n was too much for me to handle as it was ,so after breaking my thigh bone in 2 places I decided cars were safer .... Still love bikes ,but from a safe distance lol
Glad i found this cause theres not many landspeed documentaries around
"They end the day with a disappointing 199mph run"
Some people do speed on a different level to us mere mortals.
definitely disappointing for them,my street going CBR1000 went mid 190's in just over a mile
I do land speed racing in England & was very disappointed to get a 199.65 last year due to mechanical issues.
Thankyou what a great on board at those speeds. A lucky lucky man. Thanks for sharing.
Open motorcycle at over 200 mph on salt is very challenging. Margins for error is extremely small. I am very impressed. Many think they could do it but those have tried know better. Salt Flat racing begins next fall at Bonneville for those interested in racing closer to home. Just a reminder insurance companies don't pay out when your racing.
Which is why anyone worth doing this buys specialized racing insurance, just like at any track event in the US.
I hope none of you delinquents are track racing without race insurance...
WOW !!! These guys are good at what they do thank you for posting this video
Would have been nice to hear some details about the bike...
Good comment. I'll see if I can get some specs from Al on the bike and post it in under the video description.
Totally agree! For me that was the most important thing,
go get specs on formula 1 car, its all internal, they fight for records, they dont publicize details
You've got a point there... but even generalities about the machine would have been welcome. Not looking for their 'secret formula' just...something.
Excellent, thank you for letting us know some of the details. Sounds pretty potent! I wish you the best of luck, safety and hope you reach the target you have set.
First of all...LOVE the band! Second , the salt flying off the track is sooo cool. Keep up the good work and great things will come!
At 12,000 ft, there's a loss less air density - so the engines don't make as much power as sea level, but then again, there's less air resistance! Since there's less density to make power, a turbo is needed. But if the turbos is too small (like used at sea level), the bike will overspeed it (less air for the compressor side) and blow it up. Altitude sickness also affects some people. So a lot of differences at altitude! I wonder how the FIM compares speeds at Bonneville, here in Bolivia, and sea level. Since there's different air resistance, speeds are different. The salt here seems to give more traction than Bonneville, too. Great video !! Congrats!
The down force from the fairings would be all different as well, those bikes must be riding the ragged edge of becoming very low altitude cruise missiles.
It is a catch 22. Thinner air makes it fast. It is also colder air which keeps the turbos colder. The air Pressure on the tires is huge. Just depends on how much force you are using on induction.
awww you know so much and yet so little. but thanks for telling us stuff we all know. mr helpy
@bryan nonya, you're just a generic internet asshole aren't you?
the traction issue is probably due to this lake being pretty virgin to land-speed and racing use. Bonneville has had well over 70 years of cars tearing it to pieces, making the salt somewhat less compacted.
This was amazing to watch. I love bikes!!.......that go fast!
Great film work! Racing is hard to capture all the effort and emotion that go into making a world record.
Watched this twice; love it. Thank you.
Thank you! Al and Honda are not finished yet. Several new videos coming soon.
Great video, except the narrator went overboard with all the verbal drama.
Yah, this vid is thick with it. Also, I'm tired of the constant background music that is so common these days. Just give us the sounds from what you're "documenting".
Yeah I find that with most American TV shows they try to add too much drama misses is American and just spent 3 weeks there, great place.
I believe that the whole country of Bolivia went overboard with the pageantry as well. It's just a dude riding a motorcycle with big fairings, come on guys.
@@KazzArie 150
@@KazzArie I to had an r1. 2003 model stainless and black. 😥 Oh how I miss that thing but redundancy forced sale also he went 285 I think so just under 2x as fast 😜
It amazes me on how calm both of these men are looking and acting so calm. I guess that is what it takes. Plus a huge amount of maturity on both of their shoulders. Great team members on both teams also manage to figure out and get the most speed, HP, and stability out of their bikes. Bravo for Al Lamb who is near me (Plano) and for his sponsors!
fascinating, but please tell us all about the tech specs of the bikes too.
Ur a big nerd
why thank you I am indeed :)
Thanks!
The bike started as a Honda CBR1000RR. It’s turbo charged with a liquid cooled Intercooler. We can make up to about 500hp at the rear wheel. It has a custom M800 Motec system which logs 22 channels of data every run. It’s equipped with Ohlins suspension front and rear with Marchesini wheels. The body an Airtech Charlie Toy body has over 40 hours of wind tunnel development to arrive at its current configuration. It’s also wrapped with a vinyl perforated wrap like a golf ball. We build all the specialized parts from coolant and fuel tanks to sub frames, fairing mounts, weight boxes, wheel dish covers to the ice water intercooler. We actually have two of these Honda’s we distinguish between them as Little Red and Big Red
I loved this video! I wonder if they are getting ready to make a go of it in 2018 or not. I too would love to hear more about the bikes, but hey Al is a TEXAN, that's enough for me to root for him to retake the crown!
Al's bike got stuck in customs for the recent 2018 attempt and never made it. Ralph's bike did make it and he was able to push his record even higher.
Awesome video. Was definitely worth watching.
Very nice video. Racers like these make history, they're the real deal.
Awesome work man beautiful video and really enjoyed it
Gorgeous image throughout as well… very nice
Thanks
Thanks for posting I used to buy parts from Al Lamb's shop in North Dallas. this was in 1983.
THE FRONT TIRE HAS BEEN DESTROYED SO THEY HAVE TO RACE AGAINST THE CLOCK TO FiGURE OUT HOW THEY WILL GET IT FIXED. me: put on a new tire..............
+Conyers IV I guess you missed the part where the tire was expanding and hitting the fender. So you will still have the same problem. Way to go Einstein.
They had 45 minutes to change everything and do another run before the sun set
They really should have taken that in account when they designed the bike any one in a drag car will tell you the the wheels expand a lot when you are driving 150+ miles per hour. That’s why most people are now racing on 1/8 strips instead of 1/4 the heat generated is to much. So they should have known the a finder 4” from the wheel wouldn’t be enough
Oceanic Dangernoodle pussy
@@grapesanyone6626 they did but they were off with the calculation.
That was epic!
When you're gonna die but the grim reaper has to catch you first
Big Al knows that if he does get his arse killed, he won't be going to Hell. He wouldn't fit through the gates.
wow.. wild speed. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching. More to come.
burt munro got 200mph 60 years ago with 1920 indian scout without turbos.
Claire De la Cerna 200 is a lot different than 280.. Most street bike can get close to 200 but once you het so fast even getting that extra 1mph can take loads of hp/aero/weight/traction modifications
Here here!!! Shed engineering of a bygone era. Burts achievements without corporate millions or ‘fanfare’ can never be over stated! Wonder what he’d think of where we are today , or aren’t , despite all the tech?
Assuming the aerodynamic drag coefficient on the two bikes was the same, it would take twice as much power to overcome aero drag at 280 mph as 200 mph, because aero drag is a function of velocity squared. Rear tire slippage also saps power, so they probably using all 500 hp the engine produces.
@@Dadeets If the late and great Burt Munro was with us today i'm sure he would have built a machine quicker, faster, and better. With zero tech.
@@CBRuRedE1 I build everything myself for decades; can profiles, cams valves flywheel no pistons...lol. Pushing past 200 takes more and more just to inch past. Burt is a hero to me, but I only learnt about him when the movie was released. I had hopes of making the 200 club, it's almost impossible while raising kids. Burt's trial and error method works but only so far and fast. After it becomes life and death. I'll catch up in my next life..cheers
Awesome guys just Awesome
I watched a David Attenborough Nature documentary: "This is the lesser spotted wombat spider carefully constructing a web..."
Then i watched the US version: "HE WAS A SPIDER OUT FOR REVENGE!! THIS TIME IT'S PERSONAL!! HUNTER KILLER 8 LEGGED DEATH MACHINE!!!!"
That's Sportsmanship at its best!!! Opposing teams helping out to allow a rider to make his run!!!
Glad they've discovered the Solar de Uyuni! Twice as high as Bonneville. I love it there, spent lots of time at Uyuni on trips to see the flamingos at lakes near the Chilean border that are up to 15,000ft. Thinner air shoulld allow speeds well above Bonneville although supercharging will be required; natural aspiration at that altitude yields very little power. How in the world to the flamingos fly?
Supercharging is not the answer because it takes power from the engine to make power at the wheel (parasitic)
Turbocharging is the answer to high level racing & makes far more power (pro rata) than any other form of forced induction.
@@peterherrington3300 the blower on a top fuel engine takes over 300 horsepower to drive it. A drop in the bucket when the engine makes over 11000 horsepower.
I love how the other team is helping also. So much respect
As a band geek, WHAT ONE EARTH is that band doing... holy cow I thought military bands were supposed to be good
"on"
legit laughed when they started.
When there is not much air to suck in there is not much air to blow through the horn.
Man oh man so looking forward toward entering my 60's someday. Great inspiration men.
The FPV Life ....just remember.....what matters is what you do to get there, that makes what you do after 60 worthwhile. 😎70😎
Great video, I would've liked to have heard more about the bike. I assume that it is a turbocharged CBR1000RR with a lot of custom work?
Yes it is. I'll post some info about the bike under the more info soon.
I'm looking forward to it!
The ending is not what was expected. Respect to Honda and all involved for showing the comradary in the racing community.
You're right it wasn't. I wish we would have had a second film crew on Ralph. The battle is not over. More to come in the next few months.
the biggest aero obstacle is the rider. Al needs to put a horse jockey on his bike. Instant 10 mph increase.
Na,you need phat rounded guys to keep a smooth airflow.
Jockeys are lightweight,but too angular.
+michaelovitch facts
Weight, *TOO*: He is giving away 50 lbs to the other rider. 200 vs 150. A properly designed fairing will 'fit' to the skinny rider.
Pretty sure the whole point is for him to be riding... Don't think he really cares about the bike making it with someone else on it :/
That’s true!!!!
This was an epic story.
What if I told you I've done over 400 miles an hour and it only cost me $68.54? What's my secret.......
I bought a plane ticket on sale to Denver.........
That's classic was it greyhound
I can do the same, but 500 or at least 450.
amway?
You were on an airplane!
That's hella cheap for a plane ticket, where u get those deals?
Literally running on the salt is like driving on fairly smooth pavement with sand spread over it interspersed with damp areas that give you minimal traction and a degree of hydroplaning. Traction is a huge issue, throttle control and no sudden power applications. Further any speed over 140 mph will virtually rip you off the bike and every increase in speed makes you tuck so hard it hurts. Don’t lift your head, your neck will snap. I have done 170 on pavement and while crew at Bonneville we set a class record for a non streamlined bike in the 1650 gas class. Such a unique experience, cleaning the salt off inner fenders and building salt men like snowmen because it was damp enough to stick together like wet snow. Bravo any speed over 200 on a bike is a feat few experience.
WTF 1000 views !? Great video.
its probably stolen
48,000 views now.
@@Kirkov36 14:22 ;)
deltree wow
I met Al and his son at American Flat Track -Red Mile Kentucky. Didn't know who he is, was telling him about an old 1977 1150 Honda moded cafe racer I had. Little did I know what fast was. Really nice guy. He said he got into racing in his 50's
The FIM inspector has to check a fully custom hand built motorcycle. Minimal parts. Extra race parts. The inspector probably just make sure the thing has tires haha. What else can he realistically check?
You check everything between the front and the rear. I've been doing it for ten years and all you do is adapt the methods used for normal racing machinery.
FIM does have rules about how custom things are made, as do most governing bodies in motorsport. Most governing bodies also tend to keep their rules quite close to one another, it makes it easier to scrutinise international races.
For instance MSA (Motorsport South Africa) regs state that a fuel cell (tank) has to feature baffles or neoprene foam inside to stop the fuel sloshing around and potentially upsetting balance.
Any parts that bolt on eg. Brake calipers have to be lock wired, fastening them in place, to prevent them flying off if fasteners, capscrews etc. work loose.
There are also minimum and maximum gaps between fenders and tyres...
Just about everything on a race bike has a rule or a min/max tolerance, it's actually quite a pain in the ass LOL
Excellent video! Very enjoyable and well made
Einstein’s theory of relativity is the faster you go then time slows down. So keep riding fast and age slower then the rest. Lol
Works for me, everytime I hit the highway and go to work. Average 85 mph and know all the speed traps.
I don't think it works for less than say... 20% of lightspeed. but still a possibility XD
Kio Phoenix it probably does but you only age slower by like nano seconds
great story and sportsmanship
It reminds me the movie ^^the world's fastest indian^^ ;) the red indian scout bike only 1000cc
I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT!!
yes!!
great movie, far more dramatic
and the indian ran 190mph, under 1000cc, no turbo or nitrous...… 60 years ago.
burt didnt even need to pass tech, he just showed them his giant balls.
250, 280, 300 or whatever. It takes a lot of work and unbelievable courage and skill to achieve any of those numbers.
Congratulations to both riders and teams, there's always next time.
The Peregrine Falcon can dive 280 mph straight down!
That was amazing traveling that fast!
🤞👍✌
35oz 19g that’s where the name Hayabusa comes from. Fun fact.
@@TherealTony_Chin
Wow man i never knew that! Thank you sir. Nice to connect those dots!
What blows my mind is the heiroglyps from 2700BC say the Pereguine Falcon is the fastest moving animal on the planet. And they were correct!
Seems the japanese are also aware of this fact.
Would be nice to know what brand of tires, chain and sprocket, etc are used.
funny Burt Munro - did his own tires with a bread knife :) The worlds fastest Indian.
Reading/seeing Burt cast his own pistons out of unique mystery alloys shows a remarkable dedication and sensitive, impassioned ingenuity. I'd seen/known about racers doing that before but seeing the lengths Burt went really impressed me with his resolves to go the extra mile. A champion in the best sense of the word that the very best of those who chase their dream, demanding the best of which they're capable, share. Incredibly inspirational.
Burt is the man....this story is just hyped up bullshit
i don't think so - there is plenty footage of Burt on here and it looks pretty close to the film...
Like everything American.........
dave parkinson, Burt Munro wasn't an american.
im a x wera roadracer and i would do anything to try for 300 ive been close to 175 at atlanta motor speedway and road atlanta before g cavity was removed and after, hats off to these warriors they are the real deal couldnt imagine even at 52 years of age now lol
I’m 65 and I still enjoy a good fast wheelie on my XB9r !
I'm curious how many hp those two bikes are making.
Atleast 375 with turbos that big, could be more idk what fuels they can run
Its mainly in the gearing but can be around 500 hp
There is a lot of variables when it comes to hp these types of motorcycle make. Total displacement. Compression ratio. Amount of boost. Air density. Fuel. Etc. But having worked for Mr Turbo when we where the first company to produce a turbo kit for the Suzuki Hayabusa, I can tell you that on a completely stock engine (10.5 cr) 116 octane fuel. 10 lbs of boost in Houston Texas produced 250 hp at the rear wheel. The company had other bike with modified engines that produced in excess of 700 hp at the rear wheel.
Sorry but gearing has nothing to do with horsepower figures. Gearing will affect how the power is supplied to rear wheel not how much total horsepower the engine will produce.
Yeah...!
beautiful bike, well done :)
Old guys rule! Was it extremely hard to keep one's bearings in a near "white out" environment on those flats with little to orient yourself??
watch the video again. they're riding directly toward the peak of a mountain.
They're riding a blue painted line.
We follow the blue stripe at about 420’ per second
always a chalk line to follow
It's just strange that you try a speed record @ 12-14 thousand feet above sea level. It's just not fair!
Amazing and crazy to do such a thing.
The fastest I've been on my K7 GSXR 1000 is 162 mph and that shit felt Way too fast lol.
Why are most South American military band members tone deaf?
Stuart Clark 😂😂😂😂😂 👍
12,000 ft altitude puts all wind instruments out of tune.
pardon?
@@raymondo162 🤣😄😆😉 you must be in that marine band !?!? 😉😆🤣😅
I thought I was the only one who noticed. When they started playing I yelled in horror & skipped ahead.
That windshield cam was damned exciting !
Running @ 12Kft has to be grueling on everyone. Jaunting down to Bolivia make a few runs can't be cheap either. Not like loading up the trailer and road-tripping to Bonneville.
Frank it was extremely tough. Making it happen took a ton of work. Then the logistical nightmare and dealing with customs caused several containers to arrive a week late. As the filmmaker I suffered from extreme Altitude Sickness (HACE) and (HAPE) for five days. The bikes arriving late worked for me as I didn't even know where I was for a few days. Some of the riders had symptoms too and each dealt with it in their own way.
Bonneville has been getting rained out the last few years. If Bolivia is available on a consistent basis then ya might be better off tuning for the air there. Remember that folks come from all over the world to Bonneville so travel to Bolivia, no big deal.
There was a team from New Zealand that made a trip to Bonneville in 2018, ran a record speed over 300 mph in F/GS and didn't get to make a backup run due to rain. From my understand they are planning to go to Boliva in 2023, but the car will run in a different class.
I watched this with Al Lamb in July at his Dealership
6:54 harbor freight ratchet, snap-on sponsor nice...
that's how you make money. or at least lose less..
There was also a Harbor Freight race jack there too.
you can leave the harbor freight tools in Bolivia, and not feel bad. Snap on tools are actually very good, (better)although i've broken both types of almost every tool. I'm not a harley guy... But i see the point.
I'll stick with Craftsman tools!
i have had my Snap-on, Craftsman and Mac tools for well over 30+ years. i'm almost the age of the two bikers in the video. my tools pay for my living in the automotive industry. they make me well over $100k a year. yes, they will once in a great while whear out. (i never had one brake) and i get them replaced for free. you can't get that with your harbor freight tools, now can you?. people like you bash snap-on and harley's for several reasons, your not American, or your a cheapass that doesnt understand quality. im also sure that my tools work harder than you.
Absolutely LOVE the helmet graphics!!!!! Texas pride. Reminds me of kevin schwantz, my childhood Hero.
It's funny, you have a $500,000 motocycle, but no tinted shield?
And what? You know it’s handy to see where you’re going
It has been said, on a motorcycle above 205mph, you can hear the whisper of Burt Munro in your helmet, happy to have some company.
Bill Warner did 316 in a 1.5 mile at loring with a turbo busa.
Fact check:
"Warner set a new world motorcycle land speed record of 311.945 miles per hour (502.027 km/h) from a standing start to 1.5 miles at the Loring Timing Association 's Land Speed Race, held at the Loring Commerce Centre (the former Loring Air Force Base ) in Limestone, Maine ."
So cool! I can only dream of getting over to the salt!
H2R : hold ma beer
Wow. Keep up the good work
Team Suzuki.... But shout out for the balls on those gents... Yowzas.....
This was superb.....the light perfect..
I'm directing a film on the speed attempts at pendine this yr...
This video is great...
Reminds me of worlds fastest Indian and more..
I see their rivalry
A modest respect for each other
Passion pursued
What super people......
Thanks
some of the rules are bull shit budweiser made the first land vehicle to break the sound barrier but it doesnt count buy the fia because it had only three wheels, didnt run back the same way and the us air force clocked the speeds not the fia. but lets be real it was still the first car to break the sound barrier wether they like it or not
Jesus H Christ how the hell are you going to say wrong then not say anything to back that hes wrong lmao
he must work for the fia so ultimately he has no legit comment ;]
Seriously why does anyone care about the FIA at all. What is there to check and officiate?
Great video !
Try It with a Dodge Tomahawk
I would gladly give everything you own, to ride one.
That thing would probably kill you. Bad aero and frankly, it's a showpiece. Not purpose engineering. The boss hoss is more blatantly not made to stay stable(there's worrying videos of wobble etc) at the speeds it could reach engine wise and I'd be afraid you'd not be better of with that other thing. ..... I'd love to see a crash dummy in a leather combo fall at 300mph though
Holy cow that location is mind-boggling. It must totally screw with your perception of space and distance.
If the salt flats where paved wouldn't the vehicles go faster ?
We'll be posting an interview with Al Lamb this week where we asked him exactly that.
Man this is awesome wish I woulda know all this when we just loaded your 2 bikes up at brookhaven honda woulda tried to get a autograph stay safe out there this is awesome
I would think with all the export $$$ Bolivia must have.... They would have a better band....
Socialism. That's why.
If they'd been in a group not spread out in a line the sound that reached the mic may have been in time. May have.
60% of Bolivians live in poverty, it's one of the poorest nations in the world. Cartels aren't exactly known for their employee compensation packages. And they bully the gov't too, which is part of the issue with the water crisis in La Paz.
This one works for free though, since they're already getting paid for something else.
Best thing I’ve seen
This is stupid. Why are they always trying to break speed records on salt? Its like having a 100 meter sprint on the beach. Moto GP bikes can hit 220mph in very short distances. You telling me they cant find a nice paved road longer than a race track???
Where did you pull that 240 out from? What the flying fuck is a "very short distance"? What does any of that have to do with a TOP SPEED record..? And where can you find perfectly flat road that has a straight over 5 miles long? The longest runways are half the length. Brilliant argument. But hey... they have been doing it since combustion engines existed so they must be wrong -.-
Sir Moke calm down guy. I may have been wrong about top speed (officially the top speed 221.5 mph, set by Andrea Dovizioso), but that’s pretty damn close to what these guys are doing on their super modified, turbo charged bikes that are made to only go in a straight line. So yeah, it is the salt, asshole. Just because something has been done for a long time, doesn’t mean it makes sense.
Maybe you should watch the Koenigsegg doing 245mph on desert road in usa-many roads are straight and long
Yep with you in this one. And those bikes are close-geared for acceleration as well as speed.
Good reference Carlospicyweiner
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I am guessing less then 100 people in this world that have the guts to go after these land speed records!!!!!!!
Simply insane.. simply awesome
Tough to imagine what they are thinking the 5 minutes before each HIGH SPEED RUN
you would think that a lot of countries would make it an internacional even with countries trying to be the fastest
Also theres turbo busas doing faster speeds on public highways than these joksters lol.
15 minutes I haven't wasted on TH-cam for a change.
😁😁😁
2018 and Kawasaki H2 stock will go 249mph.......not bad for STOCK
It wont go near that fast on the salt, nor at that altitude. Asphalt is one thing, salt is another. There is a significant amount of wheel slip (spin) on the salt.
it could though thats the thing with differeent blower settings and 5x cheaper and can be used on tarmac track
The h2 can only go somewhere around 200 the h2r will go around 255
The H2 is the new hayabusa, and the H2R it's like a god among the bikes.
by that logic , this is a crock of shit. not into bikes as such but this seems weak as shit knowing many road bikes can hit 200 mph plus on a regular highway/large straight road. props to the guys and all but surely the real record is waaaaaayyyy!! more than this. I'm ready to be berated/ mocked for my lack of knowledge on the subject matter, but please enlighten me...
Inspirational legends!
congrats to you guys and honda awesome
Tremendous film. . Get out there chaps n get passed 300!!
Al Lamb is going for it again at the SCTA World Finals next week (Oct. 2 - 5, 2018) @ the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah.
Looks like a good starter bike 👌